1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, ba fam, here's another how to throwback. Yes, honey. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: In this episode, Mayday and I discussed how to avoid 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: fraud and protect your identity. Aren't these like Monday throwback appies? 4 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: Epic appies are epic and you see what I did there? 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Thank you so much for 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: all that you've done and taught me. My question today 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: is how can I protect myself from identity theft? This 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: morning I woke up to new emails about small business 37 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: social security account update and a purchase of two new iPhones. 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Please help, Ashley, do you have to pay for credit security? 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 3: Oh wow, something's going on there, Like they're saying, yeah, 40 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: your social security account has been updated, purchase of two 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: new iPhones as The first thing I do whenever I 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: get those emails is check the email address that it 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: came from, because I just for example, I just started 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 3: to advertise on Facebook a week ago and I got 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: the most legitimate looking email about my ADS account being 46 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: in violation of their rules, which is like one of 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: the It can happen all the time with your when 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: you're doing ads, it's really easy to upset the Facebook gods. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: And you don't want to do that because then you 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: waste money in time anyway, And I was almost like, 51 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: I need to click this link and figure out what 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: I've done, but it just something about it, like the formatting. 53 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: And so I checked the email address and it was 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 3: like from an Outlook account, you know. So I think 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: the first thing for to secure yourself is to be 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: aware of what phishing attempts look like, which seems to 57 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: old school, but they still happen, you know. So check 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 3: that email address. You can also hover over any hyperlinks 59 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: and see where it's actually trying to direct you to. 60 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: And if it's not to, you know, a legitimate website, 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 3: then I would just say, excuse me, immediately kick it 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: to spam or to junk. That's how I feel about email. 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: But now it's like, come into your text do you 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: get do you get fishing text? 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: Now? Girl? Yes? Talk about this the irs. I'm like, girls, 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: you texted now. 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, with your lack of funding right now? 68 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: So no, first and foremost that like whatever I get 69 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: to Mandy's point, you know, I check the email to say, 70 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: like who's the email at just coming from? And then 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: typically I'll call the company directly if that's available to 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: me to call the company directly. But one thing I 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: had to do so when my late husband was still here, 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: his I don't know why, but they used to steal 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: that man's that poor man's identity all the time. Like 76 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: literally one time they bought a car and we only 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: knew because they were like based in I don't know, 78 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: like upstate New York or someplace far where they were 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: getting tickets from easy Paths and so they were. 80 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: Going to start with Janelle's name, Jerell's name, and then 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: got a loan or something. 82 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Something, and then they were get like you know, they 83 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: had an easy pass the cap they put in his 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: name and was not paying the ticket, so we were 85 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: getting easy pass tickets. That's how we found out. It 86 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: was just a mess. I would say at least three 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: times when I was with him and he said it 88 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: happened before, Like I'm like, so I'm assuming that his 89 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: probably information was on some crazy you know, like what 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: it's like the dark web, you know, and so they're 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: probably just swapping it out. Plus two, Jerell's an identical twin. 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: His twins' name is Terrell, so you have Jerrell Smith 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Terrell Smith, both born on the same day, and so 94 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: oftentimes they would see each other's things on each other's 95 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: credits of reports, because that happens too with juniors. Oftentimes 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: that will happen, especially if you're in the same house. 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Your dad is a senior, you're a junior, but you're 98 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: both named Robert Smith and you live at the same place. 99 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: So sometimes you'll see your stuff on the each other's 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: credit report. But it happens with twins who have similar 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: names too. 102 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 3: Oh really, so what would they do then? Would they 103 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 3: have to like dispute it or yeah? Girl, there was 104 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: like whatever. 105 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: I was like, this is why your credit oh life whatever. 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: So when I came along, I said, bab we got 107 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: you something about this because this is crazy. So we 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: actually this is not sponsored or anything like that. They 109 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: haven't give me any money like as Budgety Store or Brownhibition. 110 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: We actually signed up for LifeLock and it stopped it instantly. 111 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: Tell me about LifeLock or these Yeah, because I haven't 112 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: I have never invested in something like that. 113 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember how much Lifelong costs caause now I 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: just like haven't automated. I think at the time it 115 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: was like maybe like ten bucks a month. Maybe it's 116 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: a little bit more now maybe twenty bucks or something. 117 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. So we got LifeLock signed up for it. 118 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: And what I like about LifeLock is even for me. 119 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: I remember once I went to go open up a 120 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: bank account at like my regular bank whatever, and the 121 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: bank was like, we're not able to and I'm like why, 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: And then I got a text from LifeLock saying someone's 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: trying to open up a bank account. If that's you, 124 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: click yes. If that's you, click no, And I was like, oh, 125 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: that's right. So I had to approve. So I would 126 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: get a text or email, and typically it's a text, 127 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: email and phone call to say any new card, any 128 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: new bank account, any new debt that I'm trying to 129 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: get into. LifeLock would hit me up and say is 130 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: this you, which you know, like sometimes if you forget 131 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: like me, which I always forget, and I'm like, why 132 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: can't you open it? I'm like, oh, that's right. So 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: that's one thing like LifeLock, but also too. You can 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: go directly to like Experience, Echo Fax, TransUnion and you 135 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: can actually freeze. I did this with Jirell after he 136 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: passed away. My financial advisor, Anjelie said right away, Tiffany, 137 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: because when people know that someone passed away, they know 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: you're in grief, and they will sometimes attack that person's 139 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, financial credit and background and just start using 140 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: it up. So I went into each of those specific 141 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: accounts and froze his credit. And you can freeze and unfreeze, 142 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: but I froze it obviously indefinitely, so no one can 143 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: open up anything in his name. And I just am 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: not paying attention because it's not me, And so that's. 145 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: Something so smart too. I did that now I'm remembering 146 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: because I was telling Tiff'm like, I think I'm pretty 147 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: delinquent with my identity, but I did do the credit freeze. 148 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: This was I mean think Equifax data breach back in 149 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: like twenty sixteen really spooked me. But I mean there's 150 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: so many, it's just so many data breaches they can't 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: even keep It's not even that big of a news 152 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: anymore because it just happens all the time. But yeah, 153 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: credit freeze, and I remember then I started shopping for 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: a mortgage, and I was annoyed by it because I'm like, 155 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: damn it, I got to unfreeze and all that. So 156 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: now that I'm not shopping for a mortgage I did, 157 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: you can thaw it, and then it's just annoying because 158 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: you have to like thaw it at the bureaus where 159 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: your loan. Your lender is gonna request to chat it, 160 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: you know. But I think it's totally worth it because 161 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: why wouldn't you want to have that extra layer of protection, 162 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: you know, because like even opening a cell phone, you 163 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: can't do that if you have a credit freeze nothing. 164 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: So a credit freeze to me is if you know 165 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: you're not getting anything for a while and something like 166 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: this has happened, you can freeze just to stop any activity. 167 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Let's just say your stuff is in a dark web, 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm freezing it for the next two months, no one 169 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: is gonna and then after that, if you don't want 170 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: the issue, like Mandy said, the thaw and freeze saw 171 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: and freeze, you can get like a lifeblock or some 172 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: similar type of company where before anything happens, you know, 173 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: you get the text or the call, you just have 174 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: to prove and so those two things. Honestly, since then, 175 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: you know, Jirell's identity stopped being stolen and I never 176 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: had my identity stolen. But I signed up because I 177 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: was like, well, we're here now because you could do 178 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: like a family plan, and so my identity has never 179 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: been stolen, which is, you know, there have been things 180 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: on there. They're like, I don't recognize this, and I realized, like, oh, 181 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: the company sometimes has a different working name than a 182 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: doing business name, and I'm like, ah, that was me. 183 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: Oh god, I've been there. I'm like, I would never 184 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: spend that much. Meanwhile, it's like, yeah, the those four 185 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: am Instagram scrolls, they always get me with their kids' 186 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: shoes ads. Oh man, what else do I was, Oh, 187 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: there's something else? 188 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: So oh. 189 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: A friend of a friend recently lost eight thousand dollars 190 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: right before Christmas, right before the holiday season, through like 191 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 3: it was a phone called tech scam, and so it 192 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: started with text messages from her bank. It was Citibank 193 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: texting her and it looked really legit, and then they 194 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 3: escalated to calling her and we're so convincing that she 195 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: ended up giving her account information over the phone, and 196 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 3: then they drained her, not her, and it was her 197 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 3: checking account, which is really painful, you know, because with 198 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: your checking account it's sometimes harder to get those funds back. 199 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: And it was a Zell or. Sorry, she didn't give 200 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: them account information. She zelled them. She zeld them. And 201 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 3: if you guys know anything about Zell, one of the 202 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: pieces of controversy is that you know, you go through 203 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: these steps when you send a transfer where they're like, 204 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: be sure you know this person, because if you don't, 205 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: we are not covering you. Because if it's you who 206 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: hits the submit button and you know what you're doing, like, 207 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: we are not libable libable, We're not libel for funds 208 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: that you lose. So she was I think she's still 209 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: fighting to maybe get that eight grand back. But she's 210 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: like a single mom, and you know, it's a lot 211 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: of money to lose. So what if they're asking you 212 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: for Zelle, you deserve to be asking for every ounce 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: of proof, and banks probably will not be doing that. 214 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: I would just say that first and foremost. And then 215 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: she ended up. I think something struck her as odd, 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: and then she called City herself and they were like, 217 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: oh no, oh no. So if they're if they're saying 218 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: that they're from city. Don't bother about inconveniencing them, like, 219 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: don't worry about that, you know, hang up, say cool, 220 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: you can call me back before they want this eight 221 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: grand and call your own number directly. 222 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: That's the key. One of the women that we know, 223 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: I think her name is Shannon, she lost her house 224 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: down payment because they have the scam where, you know, 225 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: when you make the transfer, like the wire transfer when 226 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: you're purchasing at home. Yeah, and so what they'll do 227 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: is they'll you're they'll send you a fake bank like, hey, 228 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I know, we said this is the wire number. This 229 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: is actually the updated wire number. She did not know 230 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: because it looked official. Because what they do is they 231 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: like mimic what your bank sends, and she sent it, 232 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: and wires are notorious that once it's gone is gone. 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: You know. That had me social because you know, I 234 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: bought my house cash five hundred and twenty thousand dollars 235 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: that can't go to the person. So what I did 236 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: was I'm mosy my way on down to the bank 237 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: and said look me in the and that's when we 238 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: did the wire on the phone. Like so the key 239 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: with that is always always always I didn't call the 240 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: number that was on the paper and we're making the transfer. 241 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: If I think I had the money and like Ally 242 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: or something like that, and I was transferred to like 243 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: their bank was like Wells farg or whatever that like 244 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: I call. I go to the Ally website and called 245 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: that number there. I never the key with anybody. Sometime 246 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: somebody is telling you something financial, even if it seems 247 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: up to I don't, like, I'm want to hang up 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: and I'm just going to call back because I'd rather 249 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: call back the official number so I know for sure 250 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: that like, oh, this is who I'm speaking to, versus 251 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: like who is this? So that was key I was, 252 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: but I was still nervous because you know, you just 253 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: you just feel like you never know, you never know. 254 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: So thankfully, you know, like it all worked out, because 255 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: that would have been like you would have seen no 256 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: weeping willow of a tiffany, like I love that. 257 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: And when it's wired and it's gone, you know it's 258 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: in the Canaries or you know, some other country and 259 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: you can't get that back. Man, what else? Oh, two 260 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 3: factor authentication is huge or any accounts that you have, 261 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: because I feel like you break into my Gmail you 262 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: have my life, you know everything about me, so two 263 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: factor authentication, these these basic practices. But I'm glad at 264 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: least that your like spidey sense has perked up enough 265 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: to ask, because that is wild and credit monitoring you 266 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 3: can I think she said, what did she ask? Is credit? 267 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: I thought she hasked something about a credit card. Maybe 268 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: that's the next question. Anyway, with your credit card, it's 269 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: smarter to just, you know, in general, buy big things 270 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 3: with your credit card, or use your credit card for 271 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 3: most purchases if you know you can do that responsibly 272 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: because you do have Most credit cards offer zero dollar 273 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 3: fraud liability, so if there is fraud and it's on 274 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 3: your credit card, then they will cover it, you know, 275 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 3: no questions ask, Whereas with your debit card, some of 276 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 3: them have limits on how much they'll cover, or limits 277 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: on you have to catch it and report it within 278 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: a certain timeframe, like thirty to sixty days, and if 279 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: you don't, then there's less of a chance that they'll 280 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: be able to recover the funds for you. So that's 281 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: why there's like a bit of a case for using 282 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: credit versus debit for any big, you know, purchases and 283 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: things like that. But yeah, stay stay vigilant, y'all, stay woke, 284 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: two factor authenticate, look up the email addresses, call them directly. 285 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 3: That's our last that's a good summary, summarized summarration. I 286 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: can't talk summation, recap of our of our advice. We're 287 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: really really smart, trust us, Okay, cool. 288 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: Let pike a break. 289 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: It's like I'm gonna get the next one. 290 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Manny's stop, get down, We take a break, Russa, pay 291 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: some bills and be right back in black and we're back. Man, 292 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: you got the next question? Yes? 293 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: Sorry, This comes from listener Jalisa. Jalisa says, Hey, Tiffany, Amandra. 294 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: I hope it's okay to call you Mandra. Yes, of course, 295 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: I love you both so much. My name is Julisa, 296 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: like Julisa from a different Yes. 297 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: Girl. 298 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: First, let me say I love love love the documentary. 299 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure she's talking about Tiffany's documentary. Was it called 300 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 3: again Get Smart? From Blenny Get Smart with Money? And Arianna, 301 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: who was Tiffany's mentee, is me I need some advice 302 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: from my financial girlfriends. Sorry, but it's going to be 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: a long one, Julisa, We've seen longer, but it's okay. 304 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm a little over ten k and debt. It's a 305 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: mix of credit and a credit card, IRS and a 306 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: personal loan. Before researching, I opened a BT a BT 307 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: credit card and was approved for eighty five hundred dollars 308 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: zero percent interest for eighteen months with a three percent 309 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 3: balance transfer fee. I wasn't aware that you cannot transfer 310 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 3: debt from one account to another within the same bank. 311 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: Yes. 312 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 3: Important. I work a part time job that gives me 313 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: an extra four to sixty seven a month, and my 314 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 3: full time job gives me an extra two hundred dollars 315 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 3: a month after bills have been paid. My question is 316 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: should I put everything except the one credit card on 317 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: the BEAT? 318 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Oh? 319 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: I know what BT is? Balance transfer? I'm like, what 320 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 3: bank is BT? I'm caught up. Now? Should I put 321 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: everything except one credit card onto the balance transfer credit 322 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: card and work on paying them both down? Or go 323 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: back to the basics and use the debt snowball method? 324 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for all you do. Okay, So 325 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: she has ten k in debt. It's a mix of 326 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: credit card, IRS, personal loan. She has gotten approved for 327 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: up to eighty five hundred dollars on the zero percent 328 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: balance transfer card. She's not going to be able to 329 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 3: transfer all of that because some of it comes from 330 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: the same bank. This is very important. Tell them about it, Tiff. 331 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: The whole balance transfer thing. 332 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: So balance transfers are when you have, like ideal, you 333 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: have one card that the interest rate, you're paying interest 334 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: on it, and the ideal situation is that you get 335 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: another card that can cover what you are on the 336 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: first card, but they give you no interest payments for 337 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: ideally more than a year. So her credit score must 338 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: be pretty decent. They gave her eighteen months because that's 339 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: like one of the highest that you can get, and 340 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I think that's what I had gotten when I made 341 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: my balance transfer, which is great, which means let's just 342 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: pretend like she was able, Like you know, the math 343 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: is easy. Where she owed ten thousand on this one 344 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: card and a different bank, and she has a balanced 345 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: transfer card of eighty five hundred, she makes the transfer 346 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: over to the eighty five hundred. Some of it will 347 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: still stay on the old car, you know, the fifteen 348 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: hundred or whatever left, but now she can every cent 349 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that she gives to the new card actually goes to 350 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the money owed, So that's the benefit That's how I 351 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: was able to get that. You know, remember my my 352 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: friend who's in jail now who you know? I had 353 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the jake, the thief. 354 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: Who oh he's a jail Well, he. 355 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Was in jail temporarily. I don't know IF's still in jail. 356 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 3: Let's hope, Okay. 357 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: So he left me thirty five thousand dollars in credit 358 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: card debt. And how I was able to pay it 359 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: off is I got a couple of balanced transfer cards 360 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: and transfer the thirty five thousand to those cards so 361 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: I can focus on just paying the principle, not the 362 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: principle and the fees and the interest, you know. And 363 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: it took me about three years to do so. So one, 364 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're in pretty decent shape to start, but. 365 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: I what the thing is like, you have to be 366 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: careful because like her, yes, you may not know. You 367 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 3: can't transfer money from this, like you can't get a 368 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 3: Chase balance transfer card and transfer money from another Chase card. 369 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: Banks use this as a tool to get new business. 370 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: They don't want your old business, Like are your old 371 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 3: news girl? We got you for twenty three point nine 372 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 3: to nine apl already, We're not going to give you 373 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: zero percent. But Wells Fargo, but Bank of America, these 374 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: other banks they will offer, so you have to be 375 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 3: careful to think ahead. Okay, you want to apply for 376 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: a BT at a totally different issue or a totally 377 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: different bank. 378 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt, No, no, So I just so if 379 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: it was me, Because it was me, I would transfer 380 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: well one. Be careful with balance treds for cards too, 381 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: because sometimes at the end of the eighteen months, if 382 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: you have not paid it off, it not only jumps 383 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: to whatever the new interest rate is, but all the 384 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: interests might come doe from the very beginning. So be careful, careful, careful. 385 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: Ja Lisa like, what are the terms? Because mine was 386 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: one of those. So I said, Tippany, I don't care 387 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: what you do. Sis. You got to get this money 388 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: off this card in the eighteen months that they've given you, 389 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: or you're not going to owe. You're not going to 390 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: owe the twenty percent on the balance that's left over. 391 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: You're going to owe the twenty percent on the original 392 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: balance you transferred over, which is cempre, so be careful 393 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: of that too. But I would honestly transfer over all 394 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: that I could and then pay my zero percent interest. 395 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: I would make that card the priority. I would still 396 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: do the snowball method, but I would make that you 397 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: know that the priority to pay down and pay off 398 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible, since all your money is going 399 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: directly to what you owe. But I would ask myself 400 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: only transfer over what I know I could pay off 401 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: in eighteen months, you know, like so like. 402 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: Just to the math because I was one away them. 403 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Go ahead, girl, do that math. 404 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: Mind if I do allow me so eighty five hundred 405 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: over eighteen months, that's four seventy two a month. So 406 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: you have almost exactly what you need from your part 407 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: time job to make that a priority and pay it down. 408 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: But the key is if you let one month go by, 409 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: then it's going to get more expensive and more expensive. 410 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: And you and I have been there. I got a 411 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: balance transfer credit card for more than that, and I 412 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: was like, whoo who I didn't think I didn't use 413 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: the whole balance. But then it feels like a place 414 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 3: you can put things because it's zero percent, And then 415 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 3: before you know it, you just wrack up more and more. 416 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: So it's and even for me, I know better, you know, 417 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: it got a little got a little hairy. So you 418 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: have to be super disciplined, like immediately set up that 419 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 3: auto payment so that you're not winding up eighteen months 420 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: from now, because it'll sneak up on you, like Tiffany said, 421 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: with a balance, because imagine if you even had like 422 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: one dollar and then they're like, yeah, well I won't 423 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: take that twenty something percent of eighty five hundred and 424 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: add it on and we'll keep you forever. 425 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Well, what you could do is this is not 426 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: the idea. You could do another balanced transfer like a 427 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: month before that, like that. That would be the worst 428 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: case scenario. If you still say, like a thousand dollars 429 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: that you just don't have it, you could say, hold up, 430 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to do another balanced transfer knowing that I'm 431 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: not actually going to have it to get yourself out 432 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: of that. But you don't want to be jumping, like 433 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, from balance transfer card to balance transfer card. 434 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: But that is definitely like for those of you who 435 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: are listening who are like, uh haha, I'm in that 436 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: position where you know, like I thought I was going 437 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: to be a paid off, I'm not. Then you know, 438 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: look for your This is why keeping your credit score 439 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: decent is so critical because that's going to dictate how 440 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: good of terms you're going to get with your balanced 441 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: transfer card? 442 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent? Yeah, anything else? I mean, she said, 443 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: says she has a mix of credit between her credit card, 444 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 3: IRS and a personal loan. I would feel like the 445 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: personal loan probably isn't that high of an interest, So definitely, 446 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,959 Speaker 3: like Tiff said, mac, you know, use it for your 447 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: credit card debt first and foremost, and kind of treat 448 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: it like if you have extra room after you add 449 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 3: the credit card debt, then add you know, either the 450 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 3: I r S debt or the personal loan. Can you wait, 451 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 3: you can't transfer IRS debt? How does that work? 452 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: I would charge I think you would charge it. You 453 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: would have to call you the credit card company like 454 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: is it a roll or do you just charge it? 455 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: You see what I mean? 456 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because with with balance transfers, I remember you have 457 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 3: to tell them how much from your bank, your how 458 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: much from your credit card you're transferring, what the bank 459 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: name is, and your account, and then they'll go and 460 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: grab it. I don't even think that I r S 461 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: would qualify unless you just use Yeah, unless you just 462 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: pay with your credit card and then that's another three 463 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: percent processing fee. Probably the IRS probably charge charges a 464 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: processing fee, yeah, not to really be careful about that. 465 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Like, I think the biggest thing 466 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: that you take away from this is that even when 467 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: you're like planning on doing good things, there's map it 468 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: out on paper, Like okay, balance transfer, you know what 469 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: happens if I don't pay it after eighteen months? Like 470 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: I used to literally have a notebook for like these 471 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: kind of choices. Can I do this? Let me call 472 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: the company see if I can do that, So that 473 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: way before I make the move of like doing something 474 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: that's going to put a little ding on my credit card, 475 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: I can decide this actually makes sense. So certainly, J Lisa, 476 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: we're proud of you for taking steps, but just no 477 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: moving forward as you have these questions. What's so great 478 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: is that you can ask the balance transfer card people 479 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: whomever you know, like, here are my questions. I can 480 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: decide doesn't even make sense to make to make this decision, 481 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, just moving forward, But these are questions you 482 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: can still ask to make the best choice of what 483 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: money should go on their card. 484 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: And have absolutely But thank you so so MUCHJ Lisa. 485 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 3: I kind of want to call you Kalisi, but Julisa 486 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: will do no heir. 487 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: I remember a Different World that used to be my 488 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: girl de Lisa. Remember she used to date Sindbad that 489 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: was her boyfriend. 490 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: On Watch a Different World like that, plus Lisa de. 491 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: Lisa was she wasn't I'm trying to think was she 492 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: in the later episodes? I feel like I think so? Anyway, 493 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: she was kind of like the ra I don't know 494 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: if you remember she had like short hair. 495 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: Okay, she be afe one to go back and rewatch 496 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 3: as an adult because I love watching Living Single as 497 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: an adult. It was so fun and you go back, Okay, 498 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: maybe when I'm up all night with a toddler with 499 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: a newborn and a toddlers all right, Lilisa, then everyone else, 500 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for your questions this week again, 501 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: hit us up. We are brandnambishonpodcast dot com. You can 502 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: ask us anything or slide into our dms at Brand 503 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: Ambition podcast on ig and ask us any questions that 504 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: you have burning and we will hopefully get to them 505 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: on the show. 506 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: Yes until next week, babe, bye. Honestly, ba fam, wasn't 507 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: that an awesome throwback episode and such a fun trip 508 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: down memory lane? Hotel? Make sure to check out Brian 509 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Ambition now every Monday, Wednesday and Friday. A three peat. 510 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, those traits on d'utois won two three. He 511 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't know I was trilingual, did you? Because three tri 512 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: lingual threep. Anyway, we'll see you on Wednesday. 513 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 3: Bye,