Speaker 1: Hey, fan Dorito's and welcome to a very very special
Speaker 1: episode of How Rude Tanertos. Now, normally I would do
Speaker 1: this intro just you know, improv, but because this is
Speaker 1: such an important interview to me, I've written a little
Speaker 1: something from the heart to introduce our next two guests.
Speaker 2: This is a big deal. AB has been preparing for this, so.
Speaker 1: Today we are doing an interview that I have been
Speaker 1: preparing literally for thirty six years. As a precocious thirteen
Speaker 1: year old girl, my first loves were none other than
Speaker 1: the five hardest working kids in show business, New Kids
Speaker 1: on the Block and today Deep Breath we have Jordan
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Knight on the podcast. They were young te
Speaker 1: teenagers when NKOTB was created in nineteen eighty four and
Speaker 1: went on to sell over eighty million records, paving the
Speaker 1: way for all those other boy bands that followed in
Speaker 1: their footsteps.
Speaker 2: After breaking up.
Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety four, the band reunited in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eight and have since done four albums, twelve headlining tours,
Speaker 1: and twelve chartered fan cruises.
Speaker 2: I've done five.
Speaker 1: I was going to say eleven out of twelve, eleve
Speaker 1: only five, Okay, I got to catch up. Their twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four full length studio album, Still Kids, debuted at
Speaker 1: number four on the Billboard Top Album Sales chart this
Speaker 1: May and landed the group's first Billboard Top thirty single
Speaker 1: in thirty five years.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Super impressive.
Speaker 4: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: Jordan, who is one of the most dynamic performers I
Speaker 1: have ever seen on stage, has had a successful career
Speaker 1: as a solo artist and is now a restauranteer off stage.
Speaker 1: And John, who has the biggest heart of anyone I know,
Speaker 1: is currently starring in several successful renovation shows on HGTV,
Speaker 1: including Farmhouse Fixer and Camp Revamp. This week, NKOTB announced
Speaker 1: that they will host their first Las Vegas residency in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five at the Dolby Live at Park. MGM,
Speaker 1: I am so stoked. You're so excited. I am so
Speaker 1: excitedly awesome. I love these guys for so many reasons.
Speaker 1: I fell in love with them originally in nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: eight because they were cute and they had dance moves
Speaker 1: that made me swoon. But today I love them because
Speaker 1: their hearts are even bigger than their extraordinary talents. I
Speaker 1: said I wasn't going to cry, and here we are.
Speaker 4: That's okay.
Speaker 2: No, I'm so excited for this, so big, great for me.
Speaker 3: I love this.
Speaker 1: We Blockheads, as their fans are affectionately known, are the
Speaker 1: luckiest fans in the world. What an indescribable joy to
Speaker 1: discover that the boys you worshiped as teenagers grew up
Speaker 1: to be outstanding humans who love their fans just as
Speaker 1: much as we love them. There is a phrase five
Speaker 1: Brothers and a Million Sisters which so perfectly encapsulates the
Speaker 1: closeness between the fandom and the band fans. It is
Speaker 1: my absolute pleasure and honor to welcome Jonathan and Jordan Knight.
Speaker 5: Are you going to pass out? If you pass out,
Speaker 5: can I catch you?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Just hold me up.
Speaker 2: We're here.
Speaker 4: Oh my god.
Speaker 6: Come in and hai, that was so loud.
Speaker 4: So excited to have Please have a seat on the couch.
Speaker 1: Welcome couch.
Speaker 7: Look at you as.
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 1: I have wait why you goose bumps?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 1: I told you they were just well, I know, I
Speaker 1: did an intro and cried, what's wrong with me? I
Speaker 1: will let them, but I know them like why because
Speaker 1: it's very emotion.
Speaker 8: New kids on the block are here. Well, two of
Speaker 8: them to be clear. Can we get like a little
Speaker 8: preview of what you like? Can you just do a performance?
Speaker 2: Okay I want to ask that.
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, but no, we'll get to the podcast first
Speaker 8: and then we'll get to all that.
Speaker 2: But I got questions, so many questions.
Speaker 8: Jonathan Jordan, we are so glad you guys are here
Speaker 8: with us today.
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on the podcast.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: We drove to Vegas yesterday in a Hyundai Ionic, which
Speaker 8: was so much fun, and Abe put on quite the
Speaker 8: new kids playlist.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I had to brief her.
Speaker 2: Here's what, just do a deep dive and yeah, so
Speaker 2: it was so it was the deep deep cut the block.
Speaker 2: Well that's a deep cut.
Speaker 1: Now it's the block, right, but a little a little
Speaker 1: hanging tough in there, a little still kids, your new
Speaker 1: album comes out?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I was like, just you hate me, tell me,
Speaker 8: tell me what I need to do on this sounds fun.
Speaker 2: It was so fun, it was. We stopped it.
Speaker 8: We stopped at Alien Jerky to charge the car, which
Speaker 8: took like fifteen minutes to charge it, which was amazing,
Speaker 8: very fast. We got some Alien Jerky not made it, really,
Speaker 8: I said.
Speaker 2: We went to.
Speaker 4: Calico Ghost Town. We saw our performance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a performance.
Speaker 8: In a dry lake bed that was entirely powered by
Speaker 8: the electric cars. Speakers, Yeah, a smoothie thing everything.
Speaker 2: It's like a reverse. It's a reverse. It's like a boost.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a boost, and you can actually power things
Speaker 8: from the car.
Speaker 2: So it was really cool. Anyway, it was It was
Speaker 2: really cool. It was fun. We went to Calico ghost Town.
Speaker 8: I brought some ghost home for Andrea and yeah, and
Speaker 8: then we made it here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, barely stressed. I was stressed because I was like,
Speaker 1: the New Kids have a launch party at seven and
Speaker 1: our ETA is like seven to twelve. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta get that.
Speaker 8: I got us here in time. She I was like,
Speaker 8: I will have you there by such. She's like, yeah,
Speaker 8: we just kind of just you know.
Speaker 4: I made it.
Speaker 3: I made it.
Speaker 1: I saw you guys. That was an incredible entrance. You
Speaker 1: drove in on a double decker bus and announced your
Speaker 1: first Las Vegas tour next year at the Dolby Live
Speaker 1: at the Park. MGM, congratulations, you guys are crazy.
Speaker 2: That is are you excitable?
Speaker 3: You know we've been talking about it for so long, right,
Speaker 3: and it really it wasn't until last night that the
Speaker 3: billboard went up that it was real, you did this,
Speaker 3: this is happening.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we've always like this for a long time. Twenty
Speaker 9: years talked about Vegas and it always seemed like Vegas
Speaker 9: always seemed like, you know, where artists go to just
Speaker 9: retire basically, you know, that's what was the perception of Vegas, right.
Speaker 7: But now it's changed.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you have people like Usher and Lady Gaga and stuff.
Speaker 8: It's like it's the idea of a residency is no
Speaker 8: longer like where you go to you know, so about
Speaker 8: your years, it's like, oh, you have a residency now,
Speaker 8: Like that's like a huge thing.
Speaker 7: So it's a cool thing.
Speaker 9: So it's like and it became cool and cool as
Speaker 9: we went on, and we were always thinking, you know,
Speaker 9: what do we do next?
Speaker 7: As as the new kids, what are we going to
Speaker 7: do next?
Speaker 9: And Vegas has always been on our mind And finally
Speaker 9: the time the time came and it was like last
Speaker 9: night was it became real and it was like, wow,
Speaker 9: we're actually we're here.
Speaker 7: We're here now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it went viral like people my phone was blowing up,
Speaker 1: Oh oh my gosh, should you hear? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind.
Speaker 8: Of knew about, but it was you were so excited
Speaker 8: about it, and like you know, Andrew and I were
Speaker 8: talking to and it's such an interesting experience that we
Speaker 8: kind of share in a weird way of like being
Speaker 8: known for something that we did when we were really
Speaker 8: young and kind of going away for a little while,
Speaker 8: like you know, taking a break and then getting this
Speaker 8: like amazing resurgence that comes back in a whole new way,
Speaker 8: and like you said, like the the emotions of.
Speaker 2: It and being so.
Speaker 8: You're just like, we get to do this again, like
Speaker 8: when we when we saw the Times Square billboards and
Speaker 8: the billboards in La for full our House, same thing.
Speaker 2: Cry. It's all of a.
Speaker 8: Sudden, That's when it feels real. Is that now other
Speaker 8: people know they're advertising for it.
Speaker 4: It's not something that's going to.
Speaker 5: Be like well, actually we're not going to do that now,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 1: So it's more than a job like these this is
Speaker 1: these were our childhoods, These are our lives, you know,
Speaker 1: and so it is it's I as an adult, I
Speaker 1: appreciate it so much more. The perspective is.
Speaker 2: Different for you.
Speaker 3: Just even you think how many times in your life
Speaker 3: do you get a second chance at some thing, and
Speaker 3: you know, all.
Speaker 8: Four of us like, how lucky you, particularly in this
Speaker 8: business where it's like once you've done a thing, it's
Speaker 8: like okay bye.
Speaker 2: To have.
Speaker 8: Fans that like are so loyal and connected to like
Speaker 8: what we've what you guys have done, what we've done,
Speaker 8: Like it's really it's it's so cool. But yeah, I
Speaker 8: just wondered, like, what is that like to come back
Speaker 8: for you guys?
Speaker 9: Well, no, I think and you guys probably feel the
Speaker 9: same way as kind of like when you have a
Speaker 9: hot show when you're when you're a hot artist, and
Speaker 9: then it kind of fades away.
Speaker 7: You you start to question, you know, was that real?
Speaker 7: Was that cool? Was that like right? You like have
Speaker 7: self doubt, you know, and then when and then other
Speaker 7: trends and stuff start coming in, like maybe like TV
Speaker 7: shows started being different.
Speaker 10: And you're like, oh, we were on those like eighties cornah,
Speaker 10: I mean, and then and then it comes back around
Speaker 10: and the public wants that again, you know what I mean,
Speaker 10: and inside of you it like goes like, no, we
Speaker 10: were we were cool, Like.
Speaker 9: We did do something, we did do something that made
Speaker 9: an impact and that was meaningful. So it's not like
Speaker 9: you don't you don't want to go through life looking
Speaker 9: for like that kind of external validation, but it is
Speaker 9: real and it does feel amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think as.
Speaker 8: An artist too, like particularly when you when you did
Speaker 8: do something when you were young, or you're like, I'm
Speaker 8: so I've changed now, I've changed, fans have changed this
Speaker 8: and that that you kind of feel like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: like maybe it maybe it wasn't that great, Maybe I
Speaker 8: wasn't that talent, maybe it was just the zeitgeist of
Speaker 8: the moment or whatever. But yeah, when you get to
Speaker 8: come back and you're like, no, actually we got to
Speaker 8: create something, and whether it was comedy or music or whatever,
Speaker 8: it was like that creative spirit is so.
Speaker 2: Much fun to get to come back to. And I
Speaker 2: did you guys have.
Speaker 8: A different perspective like coming back now as adults, well,
Speaker 8: like having kind of taken a little break.
Speaker 3: Or definitely but but but also I'm going back a
Speaker 3: little bit. You know at twenty five was when my
Speaker 3: career ended with the New Kids, And you know, I
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of people talk about that, like
Speaker 3: the pressure that was on me as a twenty five
Speaker 3: year old to still you know, you got to you know,
Speaker 3: support everything that I had, you know, so that was crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know where I'm going with.
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: Hesitant to come back in two thousand and eight because.
Speaker 3: Well, oh so, you know, I think us taking time
Speaker 3: away from each other really helped. You know, we were
Speaker 3: probably like you guys, we were young kids. You guys
Speaker 3: were girls that we were boys. There was probably no
Speaker 3: like fists being thrown at each other when.
Speaker 8: I don't think so, no, no, I tried to punch
Speaker 8: me once, but yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Just just being around each other for you know, every
Speaker 3: minute of the day.
Speaker 7: You just you get to a point where's just like family.
Speaker 8: You like you're feeling like for better or worse, like
Speaker 8: real family, love each other like a family, and you
Speaker 8: drive each other crazy like a family. And sometimes families
Speaker 8: need time to part, and sometimes families go in great
Speaker 8: vacations together.
Speaker 3: And there, you know, getting getting back together, I mean,
Speaker 3: we really talked about how, you know, what, what's going
Speaker 3: to change, how it's going to be. You know, I
Speaker 3: was definitely on board, but I was a little guarded,
Speaker 3: like are we going to fall right back into the
Speaker 3: same routine? And it worked out.
Speaker 9: It was, it worked out, and I feel like everyone
Speaker 9: when we got back together, everyone was like it was
Speaker 9: kind of like we're trying to figure out our roles again,
Speaker 9: but we really didn't have to. Like it's settled and
Speaker 9: everyone was in the same role.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and totally understand. But that's exactly what that means.
Speaker 2: We're like we're now, but we're still the same.
Speaker 9: Like everyone was like, who's the you know, this is
Speaker 9: like everything settled, and it's just like, yeah, we went
Speaker 9: fell into our same rules. That's how it worked, right,
Speaker 9: That's how it worked in the past, That's how it
Speaker 9: was working now. Yeah, So that's what happened when we
Speaker 9: got back together.
Speaker 7: I was the same way I was, like, I was
Speaker 7: kind of anxious about like will will we like have.
Speaker 9: The same you know, any kind of dysfunctions we had
Speaker 9: in the past. And we did go through that like
Speaker 9: friction period when we came back together and and it
Speaker 9: did settle and then we started growing, right, and our
Speaker 9: relationships are a lot better now than they've ever been.
Speaker 8: Well, you get to come back to it again with
Speaker 8: that like adult perspective, and when again, when you've done
Speaker 8: something like as kids, you do weirdly fall into that
Speaker 8: same behavior dynamic relationship, you know, And I mean we
Speaker 8: all did it on the show too, whatever, and Dave
Speaker 8: and John Lurid would come around. We were like kids
Speaker 8: get you know, wait wait we are the adults now
Speaker 8: we got to you know. But you sort of fall
Speaker 8: back into that and like it is nice when you
Speaker 8: get to grow up together and be like, oh wait,
Speaker 8: we don't have to be those people anymore. And that
Speaker 8: was fine when we were you know, eighteen, but now
Speaker 8: like now who are we now?
Speaker 5: How do we get along?
Speaker 8: But what what keeps you guys like inspired to keep
Speaker 8: making music? Because that's like I just love watching artists
Speaker 8: develop and change over time and like go from doing
Speaker 8: something in one space and like continue to create and
Speaker 8: change it. And I just would love to hear, like
Speaker 8: what inspires you guys to keep writing and making music?
Speaker 7: I mean, you're artists, but yeah, it's just uh, making
Speaker 7: new music is just fun. It's just like.
Speaker 9: It brings new life to the shows that we do.
Speaker 9: It brings new life to us as a group. And
Speaker 9: music is music. It just feels great, you know when
Speaker 9: you're doing something new or you like, you know, you
Speaker 9: hear stuff on the radio or you get ideas and
Speaker 9: then you just like I want to do something like
Speaker 9: that or something like this, or do something like that,
Speaker 9: and do something like this and put it together. It's
Speaker 9: just the creative process is fun, and it's like it
Speaker 9: keeps us alive as a band, and it keeps our
Speaker 9: fans interested to do new things. It's it's it's the
Speaker 9: fuel that keeps us going. I would say, just to
Speaker 9: do new music.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well you.
Speaker 2: Don't feel like you're stuck, you know, like.
Speaker 8: Right like you and you know, we love saying our
Speaker 8: hatphrases and we love doing our full house stuff. But
Speaker 8: it is it's nice when you get to like expand
Speaker 8: a little bit as an artist and like have the
Speaker 8: gratitude for what people love, but also be like, but
Speaker 8: I'm also still an artist and creative, been like doing
Speaker 8: new stuff.
Speaker 5: And I'm not you know, I'm not stuck. Thirty seven
Speaker 5: years ago, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Remember in like nineteen ninety one or two or something
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, something like that, we were on a tour and
Speaker 9: it was just like we kept touring and touring and
Speaker 9: touring and singing the same song, same songs, doing the
Speaker 9: same routines, and I was in their places were packed
Speaker 9: and everything was great you know on paper, but I
Speaker 9: was like I.
Speaker 7: Was getting so depressed.
Speaker 9: I was like, oh my god, like we're just we're
Speaker 9: robots right now, right, And I was just like, man,
Speaker 9: we need to get off the road and do something
Speaker 9: new or refresh this thing. So that's what new music
Speaker 9: does for us.
Speaker 3: I mean this past tour, the Magic Summer Tour, it
Speaker 3: was so nice to like open the show with the
Speaker 3: two brand new songs. Yes, it felt so good.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I think I think we did a lot of new
Speaker 3: music this tour, and this was probably one of my
Speaker 3: favorite tours really, just I think doing a lot of
Speaker 3: new stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you sang the closing song Better Days, Yes,
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 2: The lead vocalist.
Speaker 1: Was that this was like your first time being lead
Speaker 1: vocalist seeing a full song like, well, could you imagine
Speaker 1: nineteen year old Jonathan Knight see lead vocalist.
Speaker 3: Could have done it back then easier than I could
Speaker 3: have done it now?
Speaker 2: Oh really?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think I think my nerves
Speaker 3: got worse as I got old.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I was a kid.
Speaker 3: I just didn't give it mentality.
Speaker 2: You're like, I'll be the idiot, and then you're like.
Speaker 3: Then it just got in my head.
Speaker 1: Well, it was so special for not just the John
Speaker 1: girls out there, but all of the blockheads. Like we
Speaker 1: were just crying. We were like this is it, Like
Speaker 1: this is it John? It was so special. It is
Speaker 1: the best way to end to and the concert. And
Speaker 1: so it's a great song. Yeah, but you both sing
Speaker 1: on it. It's just the brothers. Brothers are singing together.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I.
Speaker 8: Love hearing though, like so many artists. And I think now,
Speaker 8: like you know, I've talked about it, Andrew's talked about
Speaker 8: like anxiety and that thing that you get, like it
Speaker 8: is when you're a young person and it's just kind
Speaker 8: of you're like you don't even think about it. You're
Speaker 8: just that's just what you do when you're playing, and
Speaker 8: you're like whatever, And then you start getting like this
Speaker 8: perspective of like, wait, people are talking about me. Wait
Speaker 8: what are people that you know? And you start like
Speaker 8: like tripping yourself out. And when social media hasn't.
Speaker 3: Helped my nieces and you know, my nephews, but especially
Speaker 3: my nieces, they you know, they are so insecure because
Speaker 3: of you know what everybody you they post a picture
Speaker 3: and then you know people are like, don't read the
Speaker 3: comment the comments.
Speaker 7: Yes, Number one up social media good for you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And honestly, when I stopped, I was like, what
Speaker 9: do I do with myself?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: What I've got seven hours today that I killed, Like, I.
Speaker 7: Just realized how much I was like.
Speaker 5: Just mindless girl, mindless grolling.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: And then you get used to it and.
Speaker 9: It's like, oh my gosh, like I don't want to
Speaker 9: do that again. Yeah, and all the fans are like,
Speaker 9: come back to social media.
Speaker 7: Social media, and I understand that, and it is fun.
Speaker 7: It is fun to do. It's fun to create posts
Speaker 7: and post them and everything else.
Speaker 9: But for me, it's I really like it not being
Speaker 9: on social media.
Speaker 7: You get bombarded with so much shit, and.
Speaker 8: I mean you guys in particular, but all of it.
Speaker 8: We grew up in a boundaryless world. We grew up
Speaker 8: in a world where we didn't there was no we
Speaker 8: didn't get to be like no, you know, it was
Speaker 8: fan interaction and a lot, you know, from a young age.
Speaker 2: Yes, and so like you finally get to a point.
Speaker 8: In your life where you're like, I love my fans,
Speaker 8: but I have to live in my skin, so I'm
Speaker 8: going to have to need to take a break. And
Speaker 8: I think if anything like hearing people that they've grown
Speaker 8: up with talking about this and talking about like, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's it's not even it's a lot for us sometimes too,
Speaker 8: that humanity of it. Like I think people are starting
Speaker 8: to understand it a little more, like just the the
Speaker 8: demand of growing up in a business where you don't
Speaker 8: get to turn off.
Speaker 7: Right a lot. Well, you can start to think like
Speaker 7: I can't do that, like I can't put boundaries up,
Speaker 7: I can't do they they deserve it, or like I
Speaker 7: don't deserve to say right right right.
Speaker 9: So I could see that coming in, and yeah, you do.
Speaker 9: When you start from a young age, you do get
Speaker 9: brainwashed into thinking that that who you are, that's what
Speaker 9: you have to do, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I can understand.
Speaker 8: And you know, you have so many amazing loyal fans,
Speaker 8: like you want to give back to them and you
Speaker 8: want to do stuff. But it's yeah, it's like learning
Speaker 8: how to find that balance. And I think it makes
Speaker 8: it a lot more fun to come back as an
Speaker 8: adult when you can find that balance. And I know,
Speaker 8: for me, when I like, don't spend time on social media,
Speaker 8: I'm almuch more creative. I'll be writing, I'll be like
Speaker 8: just so much more creative.
Speaker 2: And I'm like Oh yeah. It kind of just sucks
Speaker 2: all the brain power out of me, you know.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I'm not a big social media person anymore either.
Speaker 1: I hate to interrupt this, but Jodie has a flight
Speaker 1: to catch.
Speaker 2: I have a flight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kicking her out and then you guys mylan.
Speaker 8: It this way I am and now I leave you alone.
Speaker 8: I'm so glad I got to see you guys though.
Speaker 8: It was wonderful to see you again. Spent since what
Speaker 8: since Fuller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to talk about that next. Okay, you
Speaker 2: got this, you go. I'm gonna send you off on
Speaker 2: a way y'all have fun.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna seek.
Speaker 3: Out here the Brothers podcast, Barber.
Speaker 1: I got you guys all to myself now now that
Speaker 1: Jokey's out of the way. So I am just so
Speaker 1: excited about this, this conversation. Uh, let's go back to
Speaker 1: when you guys appeared on Fuller House in season two.
Speaker 1: What was it like when you got that phone call
Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, let's have new kids on
Speaker 1: the block on Fuller House. What were your first thoughts?
Speaker 7: I was like, I'm not an actor, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So you're a little nervous mate.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, I was nervous, but I was also excited
Speaker 9: about doing the show.
Speaker 7: I never I was never on a sitcom set till.
Speaker 1: Then first sitcom.
Speaker 7: Yeah, live audience, it was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was so did you enjoy it? Okay?
Speaker 3: It was funny for me because I watched the show. Okay, yes,
Speaker 3: I watched the original, you know, and then when when
Speaker 3: we were asked to be on, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: we were like super cool with our nieces in their fews.
Speaker 7: Oh yes, it's so funny.
Speaker 9: Yeah about our audience like expanding, like the demographic of
Speaker 9: our audience.
Speaker 7: Expanding, and just being on that show. It's like, you
Speaker 7: guys have such a big audience, like.
Speaker 1: Loyal fans just like you guys do ye.
Speaker 7: Seriously, like neighbors of mine, like their kids, they were
Speaker 7: like they are We were like we were famous now yeah,
Speaker 7: Like it was.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we know, we know who you are, We
Speaker 1: know you guys. I think Danny was a little offended
Speaker 1: because someone came up to him once and was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're a real band, and he's like, yeah, we're a
Speaker 1: real band. Like this wasn't created for Fuller House. So yeah,
Speaker 1: sorry sorry to Danny, but I'm glad that you guys
Speaker 1: you know, have street red with your neighbors andieces.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was fun to do and definitely uh an
Speaker 9: honor and uh definitely thank you. Thank you guys, I know,
Speaker 9: because you guys got us on this.
Speaker 1: We did, but thank you, no, thank you. And I
Speaker 1: have to say Jordan, I mean, you were both so
Speaker 1: dynamic on the show. But Jordan, you were a really
Speaker 1: good actor. Like I did not expect that from you
Speaker 1: because you're you're a little shy in real life, and
Speaker 1: so I was just like, oh, he's into this. You
Speaker 1: and I were like doing bits. We're like, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna steal the microphone from you and then like we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to tell over the microphone. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's into this, like he is on you know. It
Speaker 1: was it was so good. Would you consider acting in
Speaker 1: the future?
Speaker 7: Would I consider acting? I've never maybe once or twice
Speaker 7: I've considered it. And then I was like, I don't
Speaker 7: want to be an actor. I can't remember lines. Oh
Speaker 7: I'm no good. I remember Maybe I could. I didn't try.
Speaker 7: Maybe I didn't try that.
Speaker 1: No, No, you were you were word perfect as we.
Speaker 7: Say it was word perfect because I had like little
Speaker 7: one liners. Okay, I think.
Speaker 9: That's what I'm good at because like I don't have
Speaker 9: to do this long you know, you don't have to
Speaker 9: have But people have asked me about acting, and I've
Speaker 9: never had the just the passion for it, uh to
Speaker 9: really go out there.
Speaker 7: And if there was like a.
Speaker 9: Like a role that really fit me and was easy
Speaker 9: and just fell on my lap, I'd be like, okay,
Speaker 9: but I don't have the motivation to go out there
Speaker 9: and you know, pound the pavement and try to get
Speaker 9: roles and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Is it different memorizing lyrics versus lines, because it seems
Speaker 1: like the lyrics come so easily to you.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the lyrics, well I should talk because
Speaker 3: I can remember lyrics. But you know, I think you know,
Speaker 3: you go to chorography, you're in the studio, you sing
Speaker 3: the song and then you sing it so many other times,
Speaker 3: where you know, maybe acting it's they're different lines all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all new words every scene.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it would.
Speaker 3: That would be tough.
Speaker 9: And the writers don't kind of do they let you
Speaker 9: like veer off the script right, because they're like they're
Speaker 9: they write the lines like specifically, like that's their line, Like.
Speaker 1: That's their words.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's their words. I don't want you to mess
Speaker 7: them up.
Speaker 9: Every word has meaning to them and like so in
Speaker 9: that sense, like you can't just go off the feeling
Speaker 9: of what you should be saying.
Speaker 7: You have to hit all the words.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's tough, Like, I don't know how you guys
Speaker 9: do it.
Speaker 1: Well, there's the there was the line where I had
Speaker 1: to memorize a social Security number as a joke, like hey,
Speaker 1: Joey McIntyre, I know your social Security number. That that
Speaker 1: five five five, But they couldn't use a real social
Speaker 1: Security number, and so they kept changing the numbers on me,
Speaker 1: and I had to memorize a new a new set
Speaker 1: of numbers every time, and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like every time, scroll going down every time.
Speaker 9: Use.
Speaker 1: That was hard. Remembering the numbers was hard. But now
Speaker 1: I think that when you do something as a kid,
Speaker 1: you're singers, I was, you know, I was an actor,
Speaker 1: it just becomes like muscle memory, you know. It's like
Speaker 1: you get back into it and you're just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've been doing this my whole life. It's like riding
Speaker 1: a bike. I know how to do it, you know,
Speaker 1: how to do it, and so you're you're the reality
Speaker 1: TV guy. Now, Yes, you have very successful shows on
Speaker 1: hg TV. I love Farmhouse, Fixer, Camp Revamp was incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, do you love reality TV? Do you
Speaker 1: prefer scripted television? Would you ever do scripted television?
Speaker 3: You know, well, when we say reality TV, like I
Speaker 3: like my reality TV show, I wouldn't want to be
Speaker 3: one of the Housewives of Boston or Below Deck or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 1: Understood same same, But no.
Speaker 3: I think you know we're kind of soft scripted. We
Speaker 3: we we out have to make our points. What was
Speaker 3: the question?
Speaker 1: The question the questions would you ever do a scripted show?
Speaker 1: Did do you prefer reality your type of reality TV?
Speaker 1: Or do you prefer like the full house experience that you.
Speaker 3: Say you have to go you have to use the
Speaker 3: dialogue that's given you to you. No, I like I
Speaker 3: like it the other way where that's just kind of
Speaker 3: go and say what I want to say. But I mean,
Speaker 3: I I it's funny enough. I have thought recently that
Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind doing like a holiday like like like.
Speaker 1: The Christmas movie. Yeah you should. You could be the
Speaker 1: strapping the strapping lad on a farm somewhere. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: JORDI come on.
Speaker 7: Like I like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 1: That's okay, it's not. You don't have only you only
Speaker 1: do like four to six pages a day, so it's
Speaker 1: not as much dialogue we could do. We could totally
Speaker 1: do this, you guys. Let's do Okay, let's everybody, let's
Speaker 1: do it. Let's set it up. We'll do Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can all do it together.
Speaker 2: You could be like, I'll be.
Speaker 1: The lost Yeah, I'll be the lost woman that is
Speaker 1: mourning her her first love and has lost her way
Speaker 1: and needs to find her way back to her strapping
Speaker 1: young man and believe we'll leave.
Speaker 3: Again and tie it in with like like like the
Speaker 3: new kids. When you were young, you know, you were,
Speaker 3: we were your prince Charming and you know, and now
Speaker 3: we're back together like all out. We were in our
Speaker 3: separate ways and and now here we are.
Speaker 7: It's pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: Okay. You guys have been such a refuge for so
Speaker 1: many people, like as young, hormonal teenage girls that were
Speaker 1: struggling with whatever body image or family troubles. You know,
Speaker 1: you were our happy place. Yeah, and then when you
Speaker 1: guys came back and restarted the band again, we all
Speaker 1: grew up and but it was different, so you became
Speaker 1: that refuge again. Like I went through a painful divorce
Speaker 1: and depression and anxiety and you guys got me through that,
Speaker 1: Like you were my refuge. And I'm not alone when
Speaker 1: I say that that that is the that is Blockheads.
Speaker 1: You know you are you are that for us, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's such a wonderful escape from any problems
Speaker 1: that you're going through.
Speaker 5: It's what is that like?
Speaker 1: Being that? And is there anyone like that for you?
Speaker 1: Do you have a refuge? What's it is that pressure
Speaker 1: to be a refuge for other people?
Speaker 7: No, No, it's not, it's not pressure.
Speaker 9: We do hear that a lot, and like I understand it,
Speaker 9: like everyone has their happy.
Speaker 7: Place, you know, we do hear that a lot, and.
Speaker 9: It's it brings like a lot of meaning to what
Speaker 9: we do. You know, don't feel pressure, like I think,
Speaker 9: as long as we try to just be as real
Speaker 9: as we can and be genuine and uh just have
Speaker 9: fun like we do.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, stay close.
Speaker 9: I mean that'll that'll that'll keep coming out and people
Speaker 9: will keep getting that feeling from us, that good feeling.
Speaker 3: Well, that's just the beauty of what we do too,
Speaker 3: is to bring joy to people. And you know, I
Speaker 3: love that, you know, I think both my careers are
Speaker 3: like that. If are renovating a family's house and they're
Speaker 3: walk in and they're happy, and you know they love it,
Speaker 3: and you know, walk out on stage and you see,
Speaker 3: you know, people just smiling and happy. You know, I
Speaker 3: really think happiness is what keeps me going in both
Speaker 3: of my my businesses.
Speaker 7: And it really the fans say that to us, but
Speaker 7: like it's also true, like being on the road is
Speaker 7: a grind, you know, it's tough.
Speaker 9: Madousness is tough. And then do you know, there's a
Speaker 9: lot of pressure and everything else. And when we go
Speaker 9: on stage we get that reception from the fans, it
Speaker 9: makes us feel good, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 9: we feel great going out there doing it.
Speaker 7: We feel like kids. You know, a lot of fans
Speaker 7: are like, you know, I felt like I was twelve again.
Speaker 7: That's how we feel.
Speaker 9: We feel when we go on stage, we feel like
Speaker 9: we're fourteen, fifteen years old, like just having fun and
Speaker 9: goofing around with each other, you know, and it brings
Speaker 9: us back too.
Speaker 1: Something about the eighties and nineties that urge for nostalgia.
Speaker 1: It's very soothing and people want people want these pre
Speaker 1: social media days. They want the connection the Yeah, just
Speaker 1: when it was real, we had cassette tapes, you know,
Speaker 1: like that was that was that was my jam. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like Pagold Page, I can relate to that because fans
Speaker 1: tell me a lot that Full House was the family
Speaker 1: that they wished they had, or Bob Saggett was the
Speaker 1: dad that they wished they had, And so yeah, there's
Speaker 1: something very healing about getting to relive your childhood and
Speaker 1: feel like kids again. But it's it's like healing our
Speaker 1: inner trauma.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's much bigger than just entertainment. You know, it's it's
Speaker 1: very meaningful. I agree with you guys with that. You
Speaker 1: just finished the Magic Summer Tour, which was amazing. I
Speaker 1: caught three shows in southern California. It's a hot tour
Speaker 1: outdoors a lot like kudos to you guys for wearing
Speaker 1: pants and jackets in that.
Speaker 2: You have a lot of new.
Speaker 1: Like new younger fans. We call them baby blockheads. Where
Speaker 1: have they been? Like, I'm like what people are asking
Speaker 1: questions just you know, just like did you know that
Speaker 1: John is gay? And I'm like, where have you been, Like,
Speaker 1: come on, take a seat, take a seat and do
Speaker 1: some debriefing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're still in training.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have to earn their wings before they can
Speaker 1: graduate to like a regular blockhead.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's great. You know that our fan
Speaker 3: base has expanded. You know, the baby blockheads they were,
Speaker 3: they were in diapers when we first yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, they probably were hearing new kids music in
Speaker 3: the background from you know, mom, And now they've grown
Speaker 3: up and they're kind of like, you know, wait a minute, mom,
Speaker 3: I want to go see you know what this is
Speaker 3: all about. So it's been it's been really cool, like,
Speaker 3: you know, seeing our demographics change. It's it's been awesome.
Speaker 1: It's job security too, right, just birthing new generations of
Speaker 1: blockheads and yeah, we'll bring our kids and then they'll
Speaker 1: bring their kids to concerts. So you guys have you
Speaker 1: have a lot of work ahead of you. I hope
Speaker 1: that's you rest taking nap.
Speaker 9: It's been amazing to see the change in in the crowd.
Speaker 9: Like I was saying earlier, like when we first reunited,
Speaker 9: it seemed like it was girls night out, like get
Speaker 9: your girlfriends going to the New Kids Show. And I
Speaker 9: think now everybody's even more grown up now, like everybody
Speaker 9: has families and it's like, I'm not calling my girlfriend,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna bring my kids that have been listening to
Speaker 9: the music all along, and they're like they're into it now.
Speaker 9: And even there's even older folks that are coming to
Speaker 9: this show. Yeah, people are bringing their parents. Yeah, And
Speaker 9: it's so it's.
Speaker 7: Kind of like.
Speaker 9: We've we've went from like a girl's night out event
Speaker 9: to kind of like a family show, a family event.
Speaker 7: So it's it's wild over the years to see the change.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. So you guys go out into the audience
Speaker 1: during the song tonight, is it a little scary?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 1: What is that? You're very brave to do that. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the fans were a little bit more
Speaker 1: like excited this year or a little more aggressive with
Speaker 1: that selfies or you know, wanting to touch you guys,
Speaker 1: Like what's I don't that was a heat stroke. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it was going on with the Magic
Speaker 1: Summer Tour, but yeah, what is that like? Is that
Speaker 1: is it nerve wracking?
Speaker 9: Is it?
Speaker 1: You feed off the excitement?
Speaker 3: No? I mean I love it. So people can get
Speaker 3: a little aggressive at terms. But you know, I think
Speaker 3: I think it's just it's just a way to be
Speaker 3: involved in. I don't know where I'm going with this,
Speaker 3: you know. I personally I like when like we walk
Speaker 3: out and there's somebody that's in the you know, the
Speaker 3: back row, they get to be that much closer to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 3: So I love that that aspect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool. It's great. The fans love it. It's
Speaker 1: they're always like angling, like I want the aisle seats
Speaker 1: so I can get next to Jordan. It's it's pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 9: No, I think it's just another way to connect with
Speaker 9: the crowd and show that we care about everybody.
Speaker 7: Not just the people in the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: And uh, it's funny.
Speaker 9: It's weird that like certain areas, certain crowds are more
Speaker 9: aggressive than others. Really, yeah, like certain parts of the country,
Speaker 9: Like it's so weird.
Speaker 7: Like I know in Jersey, like it was it.
Speaker 1: Was aggressive, Oh wow, those Jersey people. There's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: your mind.
Speaker 7: In New Hampshire and it was like how you doing
Speaker 7: not grabbing and not doing it.
Speaker 9: It's just so it's so wild to see the difference
Speaker 9: in the country.
Speaker 7: But Yeah, it's it's just it's just a way to
Speaker 7: show that we you know, we care about everybody. We
Speaker 7: want to touch everybody.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fans, the fans love it. It's it's great.
Speaker 1: It's a great thing to witness, even if I'm not
Speaker 1: on the aisle seat. It's great just to see you guys,
Speaker 1: to see you guys up there. If you could retire
Speaker 1: any one song from the set list forever, what would
Speaker 1: it be. That's a hard one to be honest, be honest.
Speaker 9: Uh hmmm, Tonight the one that was.
Speaker 2: In the crowd.
Speaker 1: Take note, Jordan's Jared, take note.
Speaker 7: What it is about? The song is just goes the
Speaker 7: same thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then it keeps going and Donnie KEI
Speaker 1: it's just one more time and so like you guys
Speaker 1: can get back.
Speaker 2: To the stage.
Speaker 1: Yeah you got it. There's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of dead time you gotta fill there. So okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so tonight got it?
Speaker 7: Maybe tonight maybe I would.
Speaker 1: Say, would you do you want my opinion? And no
Speaker 1: offense to like any any of you guys, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think cover Girl has been sung enough. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're okay, just speaking from the Block. Oh wait, seriously,
Speaker 1: cover girl, did I did I fit?
Speaker 7: You know you do, You're just surprised.
Speaker 1: You're surprised.
Speaker 7: I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 1: Okay, And I would love if I can make a request.
Speaker 1: I would love if you could sing one song from
Speaker 1: the Block that is one of my favorite songs of yours.
Speaker 1: So that's a request.
Speaker 7: These songs kind of come in and out, So one song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean it's great. Now we're here in Vegas,
Speaker 3: got the Residency coming up, so we'll you know, be
Speaker 3: looking for a whole new set list. Yeah, well we
Speaker 3: will take up take notes.
Speaker 7: Okay, we're going to take take a pole from the fans.
Speaker 1: What can we expect from the residency that we haven't
Speaker 1: seen before on your previous tours.
Speaker 3: You know, the theater is so huge. It is like
Speaker 3: one of the biggest stages I've seen as a big
Speaker 3: old So we have all that space where you know,
Speaker 3: we have stuff planned out now, but it will tweak
Speaker 3: it as we do. You know, I don't think there's
Speaker 3: any surprises we should sharing.
Speaker 1: Definitely keep it close to the best.
Speaker 9: Definitely some things that the fans have never seen before,
Speaker 9: just because I mean, we try to do that every tour.
Speaker 7: But like production wise, like we're parked.
Speaker 9: In one theater and we can like really do special
Speaker 9: things because when we're on the road, we have to
Speaker 9: like put the stage together.
Speaker 7: In the morning, take it down, and then move it
Speaker 7: to the next city.
Speaker 9: So now we can like really build something and just
Speaker 9: leave it be so we can make we could do
Speaker 9: more intricate.
Speaker 7: Things and do cooler things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exciting. Yeah, and you can sleep in real bed,
Speaker 1: real shower a tour. But you got to share a
Speaker 1: tour bus, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know to gets the back room. I get
Speaker 7: the little bunk.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, a little bit. I like the little bunk,
Speaker 1: like a little I do.
Speaker 9: It doesn't like when you're in the back and you're
Speaker 9: on a bus and you're going over bumps, you're like
Speaker 9: bouncing up and down like this in the bank of
Speaker 9: the bus, and I don't know, the bank of the
Speaker 9: bus bounces more.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, when you're kind of a night oul, so
Speaker 1: maybe that doesn't bother you as much.
Speaker 3: Does like I'm actually sleeping in a bed during the residency.
Speaker 3: Residency is probably like the number one thing for me
Speaker 3: right now. You know, every time we tour, I can't
Speaker 3: sleep on the bus, and then even when talks and
Speaker 3: you fall asleep, you still feel like you're doing this.
Speaker 1: Like it's like, yeah, just like walking off a boat.
Speaker 9: Yeah, like the New Kids cruise, like the cruising as
Speaker 9: you walk off.
Speaker 3: And you're still still swaying.
Speaker 1: I know the blockheads want me to ask if is
Speaker 1: a cruise coming up, but I'm not going to ask
Speaker 1: because like you got but you got exciting things coming
Speaker 1: up with this residency. Yeah, and I know what you
Speaker 1: always say to that question. So yeah, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna ask that question and just focus on the residence.
Speaker 1: I have amount of time, amount of time, but I
Speaker 1: just want to say from my heart, like just thanks
Speaker 1: for being you, Like you are outstanding performer, but it's
Speaker 1: your heart. It's your heart that I love and you
Speaker 1: are like you're my heroes, but you are also just
Speaker 1: good people that you are so good and you are
Speaker 1: so good to your fans, like you you know them
Speaker 1: by name, like you can recognize them in the audience
Speaker 1: and just connect. You know, you've been so kind to
Speaker 1: our mutual friend who went through cancer ten years ago,
Speaker 1: and just like I just love you guys for that.
Speaker 1: There's so much that happens behind the scenes that Blockhead
Speaker 1: don't even know about. You're just you're so generous with
Speaker 1: your time and your love and that doesn't go unnoticed.
Speaker 1: So thank you for thank you for being on this
Speaker 1: podcast first of all, but just thanks for being awesome people.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: All right, hiks, can we get these HIGs on tape?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's like get this on tape.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 8: I just want to say thank you so much to NKOTB,
Speaker 8: to Jonathan and Jordan Night for coming on the podcast today.
Speaker 2: Is absolutely amazing, and thank.
Speaker 8: You Hyundai for bringing us to Las Vegas for this
Speaker 8: amazing interview for the iHeart Music Festival.
Speaker 2: I have to say I.
Speaker 8: Have seen I have seen ab excited, but this, I
Speaker 8: mean this was you really boosted my energy. I have
Speaker 8: to say, I think you almost boosted enough energy you
Speaker 8: could probably power the ionic Oh.
Speaker 1: I think I could.
Speaker 8: I think you really could. So get out there and
Speaker 8: we're charging the car. But thank you guys so much
Speaker 8: for listening. We had so much fun with this episode.
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Speaker 5: They come out. And remember you guys.
Speaker 8: The world is small, but the NKOTB blockhead audience is huge.
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was terrible.
Speaker 1: The world is small, but AB's heart is full. K see.
Speaker 5: The world is small, I feel small, but Aby's heart
Speaker 5: is huge.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jody, I love you.
Speaker 1: I love you too,