WEBVTT - The Fifth Element with Danielle Radford

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, It's Caitlin and Jamie and you are about

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<v Speaker 1>to hear our episode that we recorded live November early

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<v Speaker 1>November about The Fifth Element, a movie directed by Luke

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<v Speaker 1>Luke a popular request. We've been wanting to do this

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<v Speaker 1>movie forever. We were thrilled that Daniel Radford could be

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<v Speaker 1>there with us. We just wanted to say really quick

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<v Speaker 1>at the top that we were not aware of the

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<v Speaker 1>many allegations against the director of this movie, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded that episode, we're now aware of them. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So part of it is that a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>story broke after we after, and some did before, but

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<v Speaker 1>the three of us were not aware of any of

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<v Speaker 1>this at the time this episode was recorded. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking for analysis on that, and unfortunately we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, but if you do a little research, he's

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<v Speaker 1>basically the Harvey Weinstein of France. Yes, has been accused

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of actual misconduct assault and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if we have any French listeners, we would love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your take on it. But it seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>situation is being handled very differently and he is continuing

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<v Speaker 1>to work a problem boo. So just a little context

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<v Speaker 1>up top. Sorry to start a downer, but Danielle is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>The episode is a blast, so fun and we hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy it. Yeah. On the delcast, the questions asked

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<v Speaker 1>if movies have women in them? Are all their discussions

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<v Speaker 1>just boyfriends and husbands? Did? Do they have individuals and

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<v Speaker 1>the patriarchy? That the best start changing it with the

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<v Speaker 1>beck Del cast. Welcome to the backcast, Like, Hi, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for so. The movie we're covering today is the Fifth Element?

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<v Speaker 1>By round applause? Who has seen it? Great? Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>there anyone who hasn't. I hadn't, so don't be shy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>my soul sibling. Yeah, we're talking about the Fifth Element today.

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<v Speaker 1>I am man, what a ride? What did you know?

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<v Speaker 1>The future is not female? The future is French, So

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a French as patriarchy to look forward to

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<v Speaker 1>according to this movie. Yeah. So we use the Bechtel

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<v Speaker 1>test as a jumping off point to initiate a larger

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about the representation and portrayal of women in movies. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and what is the Bechtel test? Well? The Bechtel test

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<v Speaker 1>is a metric created originally by cartoonist Alison Bechtel that

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<v Speaker 1>requires a piece of media include two female identifying characters

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<v Speaker 1>with names for our purposes, who speak about something other

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<v Speaker 1>than a man to each other for more than two

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<v Speaker 1>lines of dialogue. You think it would be easy, you

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<v Speaker 1>would think, and yet this movie doesn't matter. Whoops, oh

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<v Speaker 1>blew it at the top of the show. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am so tired of people being like the show is, like,

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<v Speaker 1>does it pass the Bechtel tis like, obviously no, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever if you're listening for seventy minutes to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>grow up, that's you know, it's a what I what

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<v Speaker 1>I What I've tried to say is I'm sorry, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had half of Mike's Hard and I'm fucked up? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that it is a jumping off point for discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not by any means. There are some movies

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<v Speaker 1>we've done that passed the Bechtel test by two female

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<v Speaker 1>identifying characters telling each other to kill themselves. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is not a metric of being a feminist icon

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<v Speaker 1>by any means. No, no, no, no, no, And tonight

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<v Speaker 1>to join us in our discussion. We've got a wonderful guest.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're from screen junkies and tights and fights.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Danielle Radford, Hi, well I did it. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>should have brought my purse, because like, I don't sit

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<v Speaker 1>like a lady, and that's never more evident when I

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<v Speaker 1>don't just have my purse here to save me from showing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's redefine how sitting like a lady? Okay, I sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a person who doesn't care if you see her vagina. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe not like a lady, but just like a

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<v Speaker 1>human who doesn't want to be arrested. Okay, I only

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<v Speaker 1>wear skirts and I don't cross my legs up, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>an icon in your right, I am the Jaden Smith. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're talking about the fifth element. Danielle, what is

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<v Speaker 1>your history your relationship with the movie. So, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite movies. Um So, I will prefaces

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<v Speaker 1>by saying I love things that are bad. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think this movie is bad. I think this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is great, and I think that it doesn't pass my

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<v Speaker 1>bad test, but it does come really goddamn close. Just

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone. Oh so, I have a really specific test

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<v Speaker 1>for what makes a good bad movie. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously it has to be bad. That's the first thing,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, obviously. Um Secondly, it has to be sincere.

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<v Speaker 1>It can't be like Snakes on the Plane, where they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make a bad movie. It's like, no, the

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<v Speaker 1>people making it, even if it's intentionally campy, the people

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<v Speaker 1>making it have to care about what they are doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That there's a reason why Black Dynamite, while it is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously meant to be this like Pastiche, is also still

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun bad movie and not just like a

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<v Speaker 1>cynical we tried to make a bad movie. Um. And Third,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to have spectacle. There has to be spectacle

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind, whether it's like you know, in the

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<v Speaker 1>case of show Girls, it's all of the dancing, or

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a sci fi movie and there is good

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<v Speaker 1>or bad c g I or makeup or characters, or

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<v Speaker 1>whether you just have Tommy was So, which is spectacle

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<v Speaker 1>on his own. What's your favorite bad movie? Oh, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>um the Last Dragon. Oh I've never seen that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's so good, good, it's good. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>um So. In the eighties, Barry Gordy decided that black

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<v Speaker 1>folks really like karate, so he decided to make a

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<v Speaker 1>movie which is not a musical wink wink, but is

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<v Speaker 1>filled with the music of motown in the eighties, which

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<v Speaker 1>is most of you know, no one was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some but not a whole bunch. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it started a guy named Tie Mock one name um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also started a Prince Protege and X Prince

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<v Speaker 1>Protegeania and Vanity Good. I want to watch this movie

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<v Speaker 1>really bad. Our next live show, we'll be covering last

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<v Speaker 1>bad movie really quick. Um. I have exquisite taste, so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like any bad movies. No. Um, probably like

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<v Speaker 1>Spiceworld or something, So it's not a bad movie. Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Cummings in it. That doesn't count, right. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>tie between I Frankenstein and Jobs. The one with Ashton

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<v Speaker 1>Kutcher and Ashton Kutcher pretending like he's a character actor

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<v Speaker 1>is spectacle. It is. He was like, here's my nomination, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me Cher. He's like, I'm a little too handsome,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's kind of his thing. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>a turtle Nick. That is kind of like My favorite

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bad biopic is when you feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>lead actor, even though they're technically not as are constantly

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<v Speaker 1>looking like, you know, this isn't me right, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of funny. I'm I'm Ashton Kutcher, actual culture. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>know I fucked right, Yeah, I don't know how I came.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how to turn a computer on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh cool, okay, So sorry at the fifth element.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to derail this conversation, but so the fifth element.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it's a good, bad movie. Yes, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of your favorites. It's one of my favorites. It

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<v Speaker 1>is also one of my oma's favorites, which anytime my

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<v Speaker 1>Oma loves movie, I know it's bad. So it's awesome, Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your history? Uh? Well, as I've been critiqued and

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<v Speaker 1>praised for I saw it this morning. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>I had no history of this movie. I wasn't aware

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<v Speaker 1>it was a movie that was famous so much that

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<v Speaker 1>I pushed back. It is like, no one's seen that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was informed that nearly everyone but me has

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<v Speaker 1>seen that movie and that I'm a dumbass. So I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it today. Great, but I enjoyed it. That's surprising

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not your genre. It's no, I'm not normally

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<v Speaker 1>a sci fi person, but I mean the outfits, the wigs.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel at any moment in this movie or like

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<v Speaker 1>someone could break into song given the aesthetic of the

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<v Speaker 1>movie and the vibe the actors are putting out, there

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<v Speaker 1>could be a musical number, but they're just simply isn't

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<v Speaker 1>It was a choice. Also one of my favorites. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw for the first time, I think in college. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you know this, but I did go

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<v Speaker 1>to film school twice. Um, I do have a master's

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<v Speaker 1>green screenwriting from bost University. I would never bring it up,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do. Oh wow, no one likes the bits.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks okay, thanks smattering, But yeah, I really enjoyed this

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<v Speaker 1>movie upon the rewatch, though it felt a little tedious.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh it's long. I don't remember being over two hours

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<v Speaker 1>half hours long. You know, it's like two hours and

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<v Speaker 1>six minutes. No, it's two and a half hours long. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it on daily motion dot com Galen, it's

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half hours up. Oh, you're pirated video names.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not sponsoring this. I simply didn't want to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too old. If the movie came out before two five,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't pay to watch it. It should just be

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<v Speaker 1>free at that point. It should I'm just like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, you had your chance to get my money.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we still paying for Chinatown? I paid for

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<v Speaker 1>Miss Congeniality recently, and I was furious because no, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>at daily motion dot com. So there's no excuses because

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<v Speaker 1>they you apparently watched like an extended cut because it's

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<v Speaker 1>because if you watch it on daily Motion, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to slow it down so it tricks the algorithm. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably watch one two hours and thirty six minutes long. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're watching the version where oh we're Rudy rod

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<v Speaker 1>Is talking like a normal person. Oh no, no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty extra minutes right there. Well, you know what, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not our sponsor. Fuck daily dot com upload better

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<v Speaker 1>pirated files. Yeah, so it's long and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little tedious. There's there's lots to talk about, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to do that. So without much further ado, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that recap that we're also fond of. Oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>alright we open. It's nineteen fourteen in Egypt. What is

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<v Speaker 1>this The Mummy starring Brandon Fraser. Literally, yeah, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of white guy archaeologists. I love how like

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<v Speaker 1>in any movie that opens like around World War One.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone's like colonialism was awesome, right, They're just like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at all this cool stuff we found that no one's

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<v Speaker 1>seen before. Yeah, yeah, we stole it, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>for the greater good. Like it was just horrible. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And in this movie, they're like looking at some hieroglyphics

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<v Speaker 1>and they tell of this evil force that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up soon, but there's a weapon against it. The

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<v Speaker 1>were elements plus a fifth element there. I spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of this movie confused because I forgot that we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about elements allah Avatard The Last Airbender and

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<v Speaker 1>not senses, where I was like, oh, like the movie

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<v Speaker 1>I turned it on, I was like, oh, taste probably

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<v Speaker 1>just a wild guess. But they're talking about elements and

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't know how many for example, earth, fire, wind,

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<v Speaker 1>and water, air and tastes, so there's actually six and

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<v Speaker 1>they're wrong. Okay, So those four elements plus taste plus

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<v Speaker 1>a fifth element will combine to make a weapon that

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<v Speaker 1>will fight against this impending evil. Uh. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>these aliens show up and they're like, we're taking these

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<v Speaker 1>these stones that represent each one of the elements, and

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<v Speaker 1>we say aliens, but their muppets that there's something the robots,

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<v Speaker 1>robot aliens they look like sarcopha guy that move. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, hey, priests, that's here, make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>pass up down this information because like the evil stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is going to come in three hundred years and aliens

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<v Speaker 1>give so much exposition. They're like, remember three hundred years,

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<v Speaker 1>only priests could pass down and he's like, I will

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but it's supposed to be scary also, and

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<v Speaker 1>only the whitest Yes, yes, and then we got to

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not three hundred years later. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I read on the Wikipedia. Okay, my two favorite websites,

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<v Speaker 1>daiely motion dot com, Wikipedia dot com. Uh that it's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two sixty three, Like it's over so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>an exact science, I guess, but there's uh yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>in the future where the evil had been gathering and

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<v Speaker 1>it took it three years to get to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where it was scaring Zeus Tiny, the guy who played

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<v Speaker 1>the president. Yes, yes, so it's like far in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>are still patriarchy, but it's French now and and and

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<v Speaker 1>men wear sexy tank tops. That's the where the vibe

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<v Speaker 1>of this patriarchy and so this like ominous like planet

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<v Speaker 1>thing shows up. The President and the military try to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy it, but every time they do that, it just

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<v Speaker 1>gets like more evil, so they're like, oh no. And

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<v Speaker 1>also this was during a period We're having a black president.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemed very sci fi, right. What was the other was

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<v Speaker 1>a deep and deep impact another one where it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we only get a black president when the world's about

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<v Speaker 1>to all ship. So then Father Cornelius shows up and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, hey, this is the evil thing the priest.

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not the same actor, but it may as well

0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.240
<v Speaker 1>be the same actor who's like, hey, that thing right,

0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:57.200
<v Speaker 1>except now it's Bilbo Baggins. Oh yeah, yeah, okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>then we meet Corbin Dallas at Bruce Willis's character to

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<v Speaker 1>be confused with Corbyn Blue for this, and the audience

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<v Speaker 1>who are like, wait a second, wait, what's up from

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<v Speaker 1>He's is this like a d calm Nickelodeon is adcom

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<v Speaker 1>thing there? Corbyn Blue was in the high School Musical

0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.360
<v Speaker 1>franchise to start, and then he went on to have

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<v Speaker 1>a successful career. He's great, He's in Beils just the

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<v Speaker 1>musical in Washington, d C. Right now. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I found out on purpose. I like to

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<v Speaker 1>keep up with him. Okay, So Corbyn Dallas. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a cab driver in New York City. Ever heard of it?

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<v Speaker 1>And its future? So air cars. Yeah, he's ex military,

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<v Speaker 1>because Bruce Willis can't play someone who's not either a

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<v Speaker 1>cop or in the military. Uh. He's a tough guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's got a cat to um. Now would be

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<v Speaker 1>a good time to bring up the fact that cats

0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:07.040
<v Speaker 1>do have eight nipples and uh, that's cat facts with Caitlin, okay. Uh.

0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.840
<v Speaker 1>And the whole his whole thing is he's looking for

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect woman. The word perfect is invoked so many

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<v Speaker 1>times in reference to like, you know, five nine blue eyes,

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:24.040
<v Speaker 1>good skin, perfect and you're like, it's so many times

0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the word perfect is used in reference to someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is being exploited by the governments. I'm a weapon from there,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. Okay. So then the Mondo shoot shoeing. Those

0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:44.400
<v Speaker 1>are the aliens from the beginning of the movie. Literally

0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.720
<v Speaker 1>every alien in every universe sounds like someone who was

0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:53.680
<v Speaker 1>pretending like they know how to speak Japanese. But it's fine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they show up, They're like, we're here to help.

0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.840
<v Speaker 1>We've got those stones. But then the stones. The stones

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<v Speaker 1>bother me. It is like what if we had five

0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Chekhov's guns, like the Holy Like the whole plot use

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.639
<v Speaker 1>of the stones is like every at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the movie, all of a sudden, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about the stones, and every main character, every other

0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.320
<v Speaker 1>line to be like the stones. Where are the stones? Okay,

0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.000
<v Speaker 1>so they're like here, we're here to help. But the

0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.359
<v Speaker 1>their ship crashes because some bad aliens show up and

0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>shoot it down. But there's a lone survivor, a k

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, she's a hand. Yeah, it's a hand which

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<v Speaker 1>is comprised of like very highly advanced genetic material. Um.

0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.400
<v Speaker 1>So some engineers show up, some perverts in New York

0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.240
<v Speaker 1>bring her back to life. No women in stem in

0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:50.240
<v Speaker 1>in that No, just perverts and stuff bring her back

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<v Speaker 1>to life. And it turns out she's a sexy lady

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:59.240
<v Speaker 1>parentheses a nude. Yes, and they're like, oh god, she's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the word perfect is invoked no less than

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<v Speaker 1>four times in that scene. Yes, and then like put

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<v Speaker 1>bandages on her, and then the bandages form a sexy leotard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how bandages work. No, the bandages in the future

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<v Speaker 1>not only are not used to protect against injury that

0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist. Um, they also just magically form around your

0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:27.160
<v Speaker 1>body and snap off and never come around your little butt.

0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.920
<v Speaker 1>And then there I was like, oh, these are bandages

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that like follow the Instagram policy. Is how conveniens in

0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>they're like bondages like and then she was strapped the

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<v Speaker 1>bed and then when she got up, it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you were sexy or more perfect when you

0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.920
<v Speaker 1>were strapped with this bed. And then they become like her,

0:18:48.240 --> 0:18:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, I guess we better become a

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 1>leotard that will become you know, the choice of like

0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.200
<v Speaker 1>the girl who's unlike the other girls at all college

0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Halloween parties until Kingdom fucking come. So then she escapes

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<v Speaker 1>from this lab and she ends up in the back

0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:12.000
<v Speaker 1>seat of our friend Corbin Dallas's cab, not Corbon Blue,

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.520
<v Speaker 1>not Corby. Again, I can't say it enough. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a baby. So because she's so perfect and because he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks she's hot, he helps her escape from the cops

0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:29.160
<v Speaker 1>and he takes her to Father Courtnelius and he's like, oh, ship,

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the fifth element. She's perfect. It's taste. We

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>can we can tell because she's white right, yes, uh,

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and we learned her name is is Leulu. And then

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the priest is like, get out of here, Bruce Willis.

0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.400
<v Speaker 1>And then Chris Wallis is like, but my tanked up

0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and the phrase is like I respect her tank tub.

0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.040
<v Speaker 1>It's very good, but leave. It has like a cut

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the back, cut in the back. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>a cute It's I was telling Danielle and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a tank top that I would wear today. Yeah,

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it feels like, um, it was meant to show off

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.960
<v Speaker 1>how hot nineties Bruce Willis still was, you know, back

0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>when he cared about acting um, because some people that's

0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.119
<v Speaker 1>like body is hot. It just like, ah, you're still

0:20:17.359 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you're You're still doing this because you like it. And

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 1>but it is one of those things where it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is the outfit they would give

0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:28.159
<v Speaker 1>to a woman now to be like, see we're relevant.

0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.000
<v Speaker 1>She doesn't just have to wear two band aids, like

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<v Speaker 1>she could definitely wear this tank top outfit and go

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 1>after aperture. Yeah, there are a lot of Zara in

0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.879
<v Speaker 1>spo from from these outfits. This is like a fun

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<v Speaker 1>period for Bruce Willis where he's like famous enough that

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.679
<v Speaker 1>he's like, you know, I'm just gonna try. So I'm

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna play the same character without doubt every single time. However,

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'll wear a tank top and we're like, you

0:20:56.400 --> 0:20:58.879
<v Speaker 1>know what's good for you? Yeah, maybe I'll be Bruce

0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Willis in space this time. No one's ready for that, Like, Okay,

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:07.240
<v Speaker 1>we've mastered Bruce Willis on Earth. Where do we go

0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:12.719
<v Speaker 1>tank top? Bruce Willis in space? Play a harmonica in space?

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Does it? We've got to ask him? Okay. So then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, where are the stones that are supposed to Prestone?

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 1>And Leelu is like, oh, we gave them to this

0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:30.720
<v Speaker 1>diva who sings opera. Let's go to that place which

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>is called flots and Paradise. But then also there's this

0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>bad guys Orgue played by Gary Oldman Boo, who is

0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 1>also trying to get the stones because the new his wife.

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I think if we're talking about Gary Oldman getting the stones,

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>we have to say the stones, oh right, right right, yeah,

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:55.880
<v Speaker 1>that is how he sounds see and then also light

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that man on fire. Yeah, for those who aren't in

0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 1>the know, he beat his wife and he sucks anyway

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 1>to those late to the Gary Oldman is canceled. Train

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:11.199
<v Speaker 1>He's been canceled. Yes. So then because Corbyn Dallas is

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<v Speaker 1>like a good thing, I'm ex military, this general comes around.

0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.640
<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, we need you to go to flats

0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:21.720
<v Speaker 1>in Paradise to protect the diva. Is that what the

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 1>mission is? I don't think because plot right. So he's like, okay,

0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll go there. And then so everyone's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>to flats in Paradise. Now, so the priest is there,

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 1>is there, Corbyn Dallas is there, the bad guys are there.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out those stones that we've all been looking for, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they are inside of the big tall blue woman, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we went to far, carrying important things inside

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:51.680
<v Speaker 1>of us dying. And then Bruce Willis is smart enough

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>to be like, let me punch this dead woman, therefore

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<v Speaker 1>launching us into the third act of a movie. And

0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:06.480
<v Speaker 1>we're like, yeah, he punches a dead woman in her stomach,

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:12.640
<v Speaker 1>puncturing her flesh and winds and we did it. We yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the good guys have the stones and the

0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 1>bad guys are trying to get them. So there's a

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>there's a fight, and then they go to Egypt and

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 1>that big like evil ball is like looming towards Earth.

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 1>So they go to Egypt Stones and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>to this tomb that we saw in the beginning of

0:23:34.560 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 1>the movie, and they're like, oh, how do we do this?

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.800
<v Speaker 1>And then they figured out they like gift to blow

0:23:39.840 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>on the stones and set them on fire, you know,

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:47.679
<v Speaker 1>the corresponding elements, and then it saves the day. The

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>stones are so stupid there, it's like, yeah, it's like

0:23:50.960 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the guns. Another draft of the script, we could cut

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.919
<v Speaker 1>the stones. I think. I think the stones are a

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<v Speaker 1>sensi candle, you know, interesting like I don't know if

0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>your college or high school um friends to hit you

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>up yet to try to sell you on multi level

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>marketing schemes where it's like, well, look, our candles don't

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:16.199
<v Speaker 1>need fire, or some of them do. But some of

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.360
<v Speaker 1>them you can put in a heating element, and then

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.800
<v Speaker 1>some of them you can blow on, and then some

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 1>of them you need a girl to remember what love is.

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:30.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's killen, Caitlin. I have to ask

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>consent for something. Please, can we take a break? I

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>grant you permission and consent to take a break. A

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>very progressive transition to advertise the whole thing with this

0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 1>movie is it's like, okay, so we've got a woman

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<v Speaker 1>as christ figure. The twist is she doesn't get to

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 1>do fucking anything and she needs a head or a

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:05.639
<v Speaker 1>white love to create taste or something. Yeah, I'm not

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>totally sure. Now that's pretty much it. Yeah, but it

0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>ends with like they kiss a beam of light for

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>their boring love right explodes out from them, and then

0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:22.479
<v Speaker 1>it cuts forward to like the president being like cool,

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 1>good that happened, and then he calls Bruce Willis his mom,

0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:33.120
<v Speaker 1>who's like a very stereotypically like naggy mom, and she's like, Mayor,

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the president sucks. And then the President's like, what the heck?

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 1>And then we got to Bruce Willis fucking, and then

0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 1>the movie's over. You're like, we can't end the movie with.

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's like a contractual thing for person Willis.

0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I have to be fucking on screen or

0:25:53.760 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I won't do it. I don't care how out of

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>plot it seems. I feel like he doesn't suck that

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>much in movies. Really. Yeah. I feel like it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of like the threat that he will fuck. It's like

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>we know that the intent is that he's so sexy

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 1>that he will be fucked. He and Alan Rickman don't

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:18.639
<v Speaker 1>fuck in that movie. Maybe I'm watching the Rung movie.

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.359
<v Speaker 1>If you're watching him on dailymotion dot com, who knows what. Really,

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 1>it would be really funny if I was just watching

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>the porn version of the movie. I think, like, yeah,

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:35.639
<v Speaker 1>really not fair to women. But yeah, so we do

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>see him sucking this movie, and that was the ending

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>really through me. I did not see the president Naggie

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>mom fucking three punch in a row. Well, they're also

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they're so they're fucking in the like rejuvenation chamber or

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is they call it, Like they're in the

0:26:52.960 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>chamber where she was born. That's fucking weird. Oh yeah,

0:26:56.080 --> 0:27:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like her mom. Yeah, whoa, but like that's where

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that's where she became a person. And it's great because

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.959
<v Speaker 1>she still isn't quite one yet, so you can just

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>take her back there and just great transition into one

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of the main talking points for this movie and part

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<v Speaker 1>of the reason that we had it like on our

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 1>radar of stuff we wanted to cover in the first place. Yes,

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and that of course is the born sexy Yesterday trope.

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>If you're not familiar. This is a trope that was

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the name was coined by Jonathan McIntosh on his one

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of his pop culture detective video essays. But it basically

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>describes a trope that's like very common in sci fi especially,

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's characterized by an adult woman being physically immature

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>and sexual, but she has the brain and naivete of

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>a baby. And part of the funny thing about this

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>trope is it is rooted in per that video, and

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<v Speaker 1>the read of most people is like, is it's very

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 1>much rooted in male insecurity. That is like they can't

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>hack it with women who have lived any manner of life,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and so they're like, what if it's a body I

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 1>want to funk, but someone who doesn't know anything and

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>has never met anyone, I would look great to someone

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:21.959
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't know anyone. And what if my dick was

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the first dick she saw exactly? Like what if I

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>had a like it? It is very sinister and like

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>deeply rooted and the way it is, but describing it

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>is very silly. There's like a lot of examples, and

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.200
<v Speaker 1>some of them are given by McIntosh, but there are

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>examples of reverses of this trope. But the way it

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>is treated by the movie is very silly, Like the

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 1>like Big is a great example of like, uh baby

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>brain and a grown man's body. But the man in

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that movie is not sexualized in a deep way. Most

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff he's doing is played for laughs and

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>played for like, isn't this ridiculous? Blah blah blah, And

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>so it is. As much as you get the argument

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's played for men and women in movies, the

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>way it's treated by the camera and by the plot

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 1>is always very different, and it's certainly I would say

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>more common for the born sex yesterday character to be

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a woman in most cases. Yeah, I mean it's like

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 1>not like the men. They're like, we've got to see

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>his dick, Like there's but like in this, in this

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>first shot evanlue Lou, we see her completely new, a

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 1>very like gratuitous nude shot of her. And yeah, like

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, it's problematic, got a number of levels.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>One because this character usually ends up being the love

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>interest of the male hero because it's like the first

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.800
<v Speaker 1>man she ever meet. She was like, well, I don't

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>know anyone else, so you're the one. That's why we

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>all have And it Yeah, it's like this unequal power dynamic.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it's like based on male and securities

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and like the fear of being inadequate both intellectually and sexually.

0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And also I think you know, it's where well actually

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.640
<v Speaker 1>comes from. It's like a way to manifest man splaining totally.

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I get to explain everything to her, Yeah, and then

0:30:13.240 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>she gonna fuck right because he usually and these stories

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>ends up like teaching her everything about the world and

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>including sex. So yeah, it basically allows them to fulfill

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>this fantasy where it's like I'm the awesomest guy you've

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>ever seen, and here's everything I know. Yeah, it's like

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>this creepy flattening of sexy professor. Yes, yes, we're like

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 1>tricky because it's like we're not even saying that characters

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be able to learn from each other regardless of gender,

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's so unequal that it's like, oh, this person

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how to eat, like she didn't don't date them,

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what a spoon is, you know, or

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like you don't know how flatwear works, or like Lulu

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't know how showers work, and that is something that

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh my God, your nipples, Like you're just like, no,

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 1>that's not what is the focus? That doesn't make sense.

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a very frustrating trope. And it's it is so

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>extremely common. I mean it comes up in movies even now,

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like it was coming up in Tron and then what

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>then is the movie where Oscar isaacs a hot scientist.

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh x mocks another one. I mean, if you can,

0:31:24.120 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it can be argued. It comes up in Wonder Woman

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>quite a bit. We talked about what he does, and

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>it's it's frustrating because another thing about that trope, to

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>sort of neutralize it a little bit, is that very

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>often the woman has like a skill or two that

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>is impressive to the man, which is usually that she

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>can sort of fight, she can't be creepy, she kicks high.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>You're like, well, a baby can't do that, so I

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>can have sex with her, Like you're just like the

0:31:56.160 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>last time you saw a baby shoot a gun? Oh,

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it's like fair that we are married. Like, no,

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>it is a very it's a very complex trope, like

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>like the guys are trying to get you in every

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 1>corner of like, well, babies don't shoe guns, And I

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>could suck a baby if it was Oh, lady, she

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>needs help bathing, but like she could beat me up,

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>so it's fine. She remember that scene yet we're dating. Well,

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that leads me to another thing I wanted to talk about,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>where so her whole thing is that she's the supreme being.

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 1>She's the fifth element, like the thing that's needed to

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>like save the world from this like catastrophic event, and

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>she has the ability to like absorb all the information

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>in the world in a matter of second. She learns

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>very very quickly, which is which sounds cool but ultimately

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:51.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't serve the plot very much. But it serves the

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking Bruce Willis parts of the plot well. But you

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 1>would think if she knew the history of the world,

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>she would know not to trust Bruce Willis, Like, yeah,

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:03.239
<v Speaker 1>conveniently misses out on patriarchy, while through all of the

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>wars she finds out about patriarchy, and literally the last

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 1>second she's like, oh no, what is this? But then

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 1>she's she learns about war and patriarchy in the third act,

0:33:16.640 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 1>and then you see her like she's like and she's

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>crying and she's gonna wait. She's literally been kicking people

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>in the face because they were trying to get to

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>another woman. Yeah, she's she's been engaging in war and

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>she's like, what's war? Like, Oh no, it's bad. And

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>then she learns about war and patriarchy. But her solution

0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to that is Bruce willis fuck me, Like, that's not

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the solution to that, kissed me on the stone. Oh

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>now you're all thinking of her with his head. But

0:33:55.640 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>she has this like uncanny ability to like learned everything

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and be the smartest person ever really, but the only

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 1>thing that he appreciates her for is how she looks.

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>And this is a common thing that happens by a

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>number of characters were out there, Like they talk about

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 1>her as if she's an object. They call her a possession,

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>they call her like they keep talking about how perfect

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.240
<v Speaker 1>she is. She's spoken about as if she's an item

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>for the whole movie and even and even when she

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>does learn, it's that thing of like, well, she learns,

0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>but she doesn't have emotional intelligence. So she has book

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:30.880
<v Speaker 1>learning and she gets things, but she doesn't like she

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>still isn't capable. She's a computer. Basically, she's a computer

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that corporate DALYs is like, oh yeah, like five nine

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>and that. You know, the further we get from weird science,

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 1>the more that I'm like that chick was right punch

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>those nerds in the face or however that right kill

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>them boy? That movie O God, Yeah, the Bruce will

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Is tank top I would like to just bring up

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>again good Yeah. I just think it's dumb that she

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>has ability to learn like an infinite amount of knowledge,

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>but he was only impressed by how attractive she is. Well,

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the thing that they're trying to do. I mean, this

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>movie is all over the place, and I think part

0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of the reason it is as I did some research

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on the origin of where this movie came from, and

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's partially built from a treatment or a short story

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>that director wrote when he was a teenager. And so

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>if you saw this movie and you're like, seems like

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a horny French boys fantasy, you're exactly right, Like what

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>if a horny French boy had millions of dollars? This

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 1>movie answers that question. And best um has always been like,

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was a big and and you got

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.239
<v Speaker 1>to see a lot of what he based that on

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 1>in Valerian, which no one watched who just really weirdly

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>saw that. Sorry, Yeah, did you like it? No, Yeah,

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's another one where it's like this time, instead

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of plucking a woman out of time and making her

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the perfect woman, they pluck a woman out of time

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and she's still in this series, which is based on

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>this old French like newspaper Cereal. It's like their version

0:36:08.280 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of Valiant or whatever, which is another thing that none

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>of us here watched or read in the cartoon section.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>It was the one that you skipped and um or

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you put dicks on and like me and so in

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.720
<v Speaker 1>that series, the dude from the future, like they're also

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 1>time travelers, he goes back and he grabs this peasant

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>woman from I want to say the seventeen or eighteenth century. Um.

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.959
<v Speaker 1>And so again it's that thing of like, oh, you're

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>so pretty and so you know you're of these values,

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>but I still have to teach you about this modern world, right,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's where like so much of what the Fifth

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Element became was based on this. And I think you

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>had a great point about Wonder Woman too, of like

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking men to our Wonder Woman episode where that

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>was something we didn't pick up on at the time

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>of like even a year of like, yeah, the male lead,

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>and that would be one of the christ Is. I

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking know which time had to He's the one

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 1>who just showed off as Pinus in that movie on Netflix.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that the one? I honestly, I have Chris blindness.

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell any of them apart. I don't know.

0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>There's too many, but there there it's a frustrating trope

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and and it so it was like built from his

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like something he wanted to do since he was a teenager.

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.239
<v Speaker 1>It seems like very little edits were made from his

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>little horny story. So that's just a fact. Another thing

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring up. I mean, so, she is

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>one of very few female characters in the movie. She's

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 1>the only one that is like a primary character. There

0:37:39.719 --> 0:37:42.760
<v Speaker 1>are quite a few women with speaking roles in the movie,

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>but they're mostly in like tertiary roles, and they're usually

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 1>in like service, like a lot of secretaries attendants, someone

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:57.360
<v Speaker 1>who gets super super banged by Yeah. Yeah, wof. There's

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot to unpack there there. I think it's interesting

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that they it's it's weird because I feel like what

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 1>frustrated me about this movie, even though I ultimately did

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like it, is that this movie contradicts itself in so

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>many ways where it's trying to have it so many

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.400
<v Speaker 1>ways where it's like with Lulu, you're given basically a

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>female christ Like figure, but she doesn't get to do

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 1>any of the cool stuff that comes with being a

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>christ Like figure, like you've got if you were talking

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>movie christ like figures, you know, you've got your fucking

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Luke Skywalkers, you got your Harry Potters, you got your

0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ, you got you got like and and the

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:38.359
<v Speaker 1>thing about Christ figure is, at some point you get

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to not be a baby and do something, and she

0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:43.399
<v Speaker 1>doesn't get to do that. Yeah, it comes with a

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.560
<v Speaker 1>leadership role, right at a certain point. You know, you

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>look at a Buffy and the thing about if you

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>look at a Buffy, she kicks a lot of asks

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and she's a young girl. But part of being the

0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>Slater and then obviously there's problems with that series too,

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a part of being the Slayers it comes with a

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>natural leadership ability. Typically when it Dude, even if he

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>discovers two days ago that he can maybe use the

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>forest kind of if he squints, he suddenly becomes someone

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>very important to the rebellion and and not just because

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he can kind of maybe do a thing,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>but because they respect him for his brain, for his mind,

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and he suddenly becomes a leader of people. And with

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the born sexy babies, they get to get past the

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 1>baby face. She even wonder child, Yeah, like even wonder woman.

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 1>She does become kind of a leader, but even then

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it's mostly when it's her and the Pine separated and

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:37.200
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I've seen what she's doing, and so

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll go ahead and let her do it. But like

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>as far as being a tactician or a military leader

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.719
<v Speaker 1>or someone who has the respect of folks, Lelu never

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 1>gets that, and she could murder all of them. And

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 1>then she like passed respect more you should respect and

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>angry baby even more, and she kind of conveniently tends

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to fall lamp or pass out when it would be

0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:03.800
<v Speaker 1>convenient end for Bruce Willis's character to suddenly be useful.

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:06.439
<v Speaker 1>It's like Jean Graham the X Meen cartoon. Yes, yeah,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>so there is a sequence when they're on the Flotsam

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Jetsam place and then they're like, I was like, what

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is that from? Okay, the Paradise Hotel, which is basically

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Titanic I think we can all agree. Um, they just

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>evacuate and it does not work out. But there's a

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>sequence where Lee Lu is like single handedly fighting a

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>bunch of the bad aliens and then we're like, Okay, great,

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I guess she can fight because she looked up. It's

0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>basically that same sequence from The Matrix when she's like,

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I know kung fu, and then she even does this

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>motion with her hand. But this movie came before the

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Matrix is probably a reference to something else anyway. So

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>she's like fighting off all these bad guys and then

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>for no reason, she like starts to die, Like she

0:40:56.000 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>becomes completely damseled and like it's just slam and don't

0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>do anything for the whole Third is Bruce Willis kisses,

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 1>loves kiss at the end of the day, so it's

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:11.480
<v Speaker 1>true love's fucking kiss Like that's all it does. It

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>he's speaking of kisses. Let's talk about the surprise kiss

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that happens. Okay, So this one, here's how it goes.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh Leelu is sleeping, repeat, unconscious, not conscious, cannot tell

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Bruce Willis tries to kiss her in

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the tank top of all tops, and then she holds

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a gun to his head, and he's like, you're right,

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have tried to

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>kiss you. But he's only saying that because there's a

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>gun to his head. Life, and then she says something

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:49.439
<v Speaker 1>in her like divine language, and then his defenses. He said,

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to wake you gently, and I thought you would remember

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>me from the cab as if you know, have you

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 1>ever wanted someone you met in a cab to kiss

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>you while you're sleeping? It's like up someone was like, oh,

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I molested you, but remember me from the

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>uber pool, so and get away from me. Man, When

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>that that whole kissing someone while they're sleeping thing was

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.839
<v Speaker 1>so prevalent that when I was a kid, I would

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:17.720
<v Speaker 1>think it was cute to run up on my parents

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.720
<v Speaker 1>and kiss him on this cheek while they were sleeping.

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 1>And it took me three times to realize that's fucking terrifying.

0:42:25.320 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>And it ends with adults screaming yeah, and that rings

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>true till today that's so and then okay. So then

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>he condescends to her and he's like, call me when

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you can speak English. JK. But really, dick, she speaks

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 1>like eighty languages. Sorry, she didn't get to English, and

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.719
<v Speaker 1>then later he's like, oh, what was that thing that

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>she said? And then the priest translates it to never

0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>without my permission. So in this case of the surprise

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>kiss in this movie, at least consent is acknowledged, and

0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>she does hold a gun to his head for trying

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to surprise kiss him, but he is not punished at all,

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>really because then he ends up getting to kiss her

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>later for reasons that don't make sense. But you know,

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>when you have a man and a woman in a

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>story together, they better kiss on each other at the end.

0:43:20.400 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's just a world to say, a universe and

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>some shows is he like makes it even more frustrating

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>for me though, when it's like the movie demonstrates, yeah,

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 1>we know what consented, we know how it works, we

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>just don't care. Like that's like even more frustrating when

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's frustrating and unacceptable across the board. But

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you've got a somewhat different situation when you've got, for instance,

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Brendan Fraser My King the Mummy surprise kissing in the

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Mummy and it's never commented on, and the way that

0:43:56.920 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 1>movie positions it is that they don't know what they're doing,

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like they're stupid. Well, in that movie, he surprised kisses

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Rachel White's and then she's like and then she falls

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, all this movie is for idiots, Okay,

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.319
<v Speaker 1>got it, but this movie is like, no, not without

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>my permission. And then you're like, oh, cool, we're on

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the right track, and they're like just getting we're not.

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep getting this woman naked and the movie

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.040
<v Speaker 1>won't like the world will end unless she gets like

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>kissed by this guy who molested her at the beginning

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>of the movie. Awesome, and I wanted to talk more

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 1>about that, the way that just the wardrobe of this movie,

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the way women are dressed. It's with Leelu especially. We

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:42.360
<v Speaker 1>already talked about the straps at somehow magically become like

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>a bathe and it doesn't get better and movie goes on.

0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:46.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like turns into it differently at aar but this

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.720
<v Speaker 1>one sort of has sleeves. Yeah, and it's it's matching

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 1>though Bruce's orange tank tops, so they matched. Yeah, that's great. Um,

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, we see her nipples I think no less

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>than three times in the movie. She's alway. It's because

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't understand social norms, so that gives her permission

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>to just be like, oh naked, and like even the

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Blue Singing Lady is wearing a dress that looks like

0:45:09.280 --> 0:45:12.320
<v Speaker 1>she's naked, right, Like she's wearing a flesh colored for

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:15.399
<v Speaker 1>her dress. But don't worry, that scene ends with her

0:45:15.600 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>dying and getting punched in the stomach. We're not Mexo sexualizer.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 1>She's meant to be our mom there. It's like she's

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>sexy until she's dead and then she's mommy, and you're like,

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>what is this fucking movie? But then the women who

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>are like you know, the flight attendants and things like that,

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 1>they're wearing these like very scant uniforms where oh yeah, yeah,

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>it's the party plane, like that's what it is, right,

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Like it looks like remember in Iron Man when all

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, all the stewardesses are on the pole,

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 1>but in the beginning, they like pretend like they're not

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 1>going to be on a pole and they're gonna be

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>just flight attendants as the first Iron Man. Oh my god,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen that. Oh yeah, so that it's a

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 1>terrible scene and it's meant to be part of why

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Tony Stark sucks. It's meant to be part of why

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Tony Stark socks. But in this movie, all of the

0:46:09.200 --> 0:46:12.800
<v Speaker 1>women are are dressed like the Halloween version of a

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>flight attendant. Yeah, patriarchy is alive and well in Yes. Yeah.

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>The way that she's dressed throughout the movie, through the

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>very end is like she starts nude, she ends nude,

0:46:28.320 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and in between there's a series of scantily clad outfits

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.200
<v Speaker 1>always and and the way she's filmed it's always very

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean fully male gaze. There's no commentary being made

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:43.479
<v Speaker 1>at all. And on that note, let's take a quick break.

0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you say sounds good? All right? Can we

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:58.399
<v Speaker 1>talk about Ruby Road? We better queer icon, pans axual icon,

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:03.360
<v Speaker 1>pantecrobably possible. I do find it interesting that this feels

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like they're trying to have it both ways, where they're like,

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have a dude who is hyper sexual, turns

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 1>on all the ladies all of this stuff, but in

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>order to make sure that he is not more sexy

0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>or sexual than our lead, we have to give him

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>parts that are feminine. It is like a very nineties

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 1>way of looking at that I hear a lot of

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>homes in the audience. This is the thing I've thought

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>about as another pan sexual, like on, um, you can't

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 1>close your legs. So yeah, it is interesting because obviously,

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like he does have a feminine moments, but he is

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 1>also like banging down stewardesses in weird ways, maybe more coercy,

0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:48.640
<v Speaker 1>not super consensually ways. Yeah, with which we'll talk about.

0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's also yeah, so they wanted clearly to make

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>this character that's like super sexy. Everyone wants to be

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.800
<v Speaker 1>with him, but how do we make him not a

0:47:57.040 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 1>threat for our hero for the love of our baby woman. Right,

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.239
<v Speaker 1>He's also basically doing a podcast the whole thing. He's like,

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>he's like talking into a mic. He's like like where

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the show is or where I was paying broadcast. It's

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like this could be anyone in Los Angeles. It's on

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>iTunes cast for mattresses, but it was Blue Apron delivered

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>uh fifty pounds of seafood onto my doorstep the other day,

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, so I don't know why they did. Yeah,

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>he's got this like entourage of like men who were

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>like all kind of queer coded. He's coming, coming, man coming,

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's also a way to like slide in some

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:47.840
<v Speaker 1>black people that weren't um, you know, house musicians in

0:48:47.880 --> 0:48:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the nineties in England, which is what basically all the

0:48:50.719 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>other black people are where either English models or English rappers.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it's very European. A lot of this movie. Really,

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>it is a tricky character. I feel like it very

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>like very much falls under the umbrella that we come

0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>up with nineties movies all the time, which is like

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:11.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of like what you're saying, Daniel is like a

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>movie trying to have it both ways. It's like, oh,

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>this is some manner or impression of queer representation, but

0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 1>don't worry. There's still very bad to women, and like, yes,

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it's a manner of queer representation, but don't worry. Technically

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:29.480
<v Speaker 1>if you wrote them out of the script, the movie

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>would be no different. They really don't push the story

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.400
<v Speaker 1>forward in any way. It's sort of queer representation, but

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>also they constantly are needing the straight male white lead

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to bail them out, and so it just feels like

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.960
<v Speaker 1>it it is a step in some ways, but also

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it was frustrating. It's like you you

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>want that character who is like so funny and so

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 1>like well played to have more of a narrative impact.

0:49:56.800 --> 0:50:01.800
<v Speaker 1>It feels like someone loo black wife realize that a

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of the black people in the movie don't actually

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.240
<v Speaker 1>get to be people. It was like, maybe we should

0:50:06.280 --> 0:50:09.400
<v Speaker 1>make one of the black people of purple and not

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.279
<v Speaker 1>make them an alien or paint them blue or like

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.919
<v Speaker 1>do whatever, Like maybe there should be one person that's

0:50:16.000 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 1>clearly black. Yeah, it's like it's it's so frustrating because

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:26.720
<v Speaker 1>it's so well played and the character and it's funny

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and the fits are incredible. I don't know, I just

0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.360
<v Speaker 1>wish that it's it's very frustrating me when movies incorporate

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:38.280
<v Speaker 1>any marginalized group in a way that doesn't progress the narrative,

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>because then it just sort of reads as to some extent,

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:44.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of like gratuitous, as like they were just doing it,

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:46.760
<v Speaker 1>like oh, I'll just do this, but it won't actually

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 1>make a difference. Yeah, that's what like when when the

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>groups of the gates of the people, when they complain

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>about this is just to please the s JW's, It's like, no,

0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>because we actually want our characters to mean something. This

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:00.920
<v Speaker 1>is because they want to at all four or five

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.719
<v Speaker 1>quadrants that has nothing to do with us, and that's

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>what this was. Yeah, although again I mean I do that.

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a great character and I love him, but yeah,

0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.680
<v Speaker 1>he can very easily not at all be in the movie.

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I just like if he had even it would be

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 1>so easy to write out like he doesn't know how

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:22.799
<v Speaker 1>to defend himself in any way, or like if if

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>he had a skill that could forward the group, which

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:28.200
<v Speaker 1>would help the story because it would make them seem

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>like more of a group and not just sort of

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>a group of people who are co dependent on Bruce Willis,

0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.239
<v Speaker 1>then that would have been great and it would have

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:38.880
<v Speaker 1>been such an easy fix that would have made the

0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 1>story better. And it's like, if you just unpassed out

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:48.759
<v Speaker 1>Leelu and gave Ruby Road a skill, the movie is better.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:50.719
<v Speaker 1>So why not do that? Oh yeah, well could and

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 1>Ruby Rod essentially became the damsel during that escape scene, right,

0:51:58.880 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give to run. It is iconic, but y

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.360
<v Speaker 1>god damn it. A couple of things I wanted to mention.

0:52:09.760 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Jamie already touched on this, but Corbyn's mom so we

0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.480
<v Speaker 1>never meet her on screen. Corbin's mom is the just

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>no mother in law subreddit made into a person. That's

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a joke for the people who got it. There's a

0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 1>sepright on reddit which is just people bitching about their

0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:30.759
<v Speaker 1>mothers and laws, which becomes very clear that it's just

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.120
<v Speaker 1>people writing fan fiction where they get to call women bitches. Oh,

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 1>very cool. Love that's pretty tight. But so Corbyn's mom,

0:52:40.000 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 1>we never meet her on screen, but we hear her

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>voice quite a bit because he's she's always calling nagging

0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.799
<v Speaker 1>leaven messages. Man, women, you go from being a hot

0:52:51.920 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>baby to being a nagging mom in two seconds, right,

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is how a lot of moms are portrayed

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.640
<v Speaker 1>in movies, where it's like I'm gonna let that pass. Uh,

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:03.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a restaurant, but this is not a lot

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of women are A lot of mothers are portrayed in

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.840
<v Speaker 1>movies where it's like a nagging, overbearing like can't let

0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>go of her baby boy, and like often played as

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:15.920
<v Speaker 1>like comic relief, like someone to not be taken seriously

0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:17.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's always like brushing her off and it's just

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 1>like a commonly known as like bad writing. Yeah, that

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.080
<v Speaker 1>is exactly what that. There's no in between. There's very

0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean now We're getting to a point where you

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:30.080
<v Speaker 1>get competent women, but very often it is like you

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 1>were either a sexy person I want a sex who

0:53:32.760 --> 0:53:38.880
<v Speaker 1>also kicks other people sexily, or you are this nagging,

0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>horrible Oh why should I have to clean my room? Mom?

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Why do I have to take my diarrhea medication? Now?

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:51.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm all right, man, And that's real. You can look

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>at and you never you never see her, right, we

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>never formally meet her. She's strictly playing off screen for

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 1>laughs with Bruce Willis and then later with the President.

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, I don't believe you're the president. The President

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>sucks cut to Bruce Willis. Fucking end of movie. A

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>great last hilarious. Another female character who's introduced, who is

0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>like kind of played as a joke is her name

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 1>is Major ice Borg, another Titanic reference. Obviously that is

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the official they're like, Sir Major ice Borg. But she

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>comes in in the scene where the general is like, hey, Corbin,

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:42.200
<v Speaker 1>we need you to like go on this secret mission

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:46.040
<v Speaker 1>even though you are retired from the military, but do

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>this anyway. So she comes in and basically she would

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 1>not probably be considered attractive by Western ideal like beauty standards,

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and then they're like, she's gonna play your wife, Corbin

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>in your won this trip and he takes one look

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>at her and he's like, I am not going is

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:10.520
<v Speaker 1>if Like she's not beautiful traditionally, so therefore she is disgusting,

0:55:10.840 --> 0:55:14.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's just like play not worth being around

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 1>for three fucking seconds. Yeah, it's so frot like. They're

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:22.040
<v Speaker 1>also like, per this movie, you don't see women for

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:27.480
<v Speaker 1>canonically three centuries, and then when you get to women finally,

0:55:27.560 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, it's only actually naked white ladies that

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>we see and everything else is gross to us. So sorry,

0:55:35.640 --> 0:55:38.399
<v Speaker 1>and that's just the movie. Yeah, look, I either want

0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 1>the perfect woman who you made out of a hand

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>or nothing at all. Not this incredibly like that woman

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.799
<v Speaker 1>could have had his back, could have shot some folks up.

0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:53.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't know how long she's been in the academy.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.320
<v Speaker 1>She had probably been working with She's a major. You

0:55:56.360 --> 0:55:58.840
<v Speaker 1>know how long it takes to be a fucking major.

0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>She had been to be a major for years, and

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 1>this dude looks at her and goes like, oh, your hips,

0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's suddenly like I'm gonna do this mission alone.

0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I've been retired forever, but I know I'm better than

0:56:10.840 --> 0:56:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you with That's part of where I feel like this

0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>movie ultimately, for even though you see it and aesthetically

0:56:17.600 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look like a very conservative movie, but ultimately

0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the story does play very conservative because

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you're given these characters who on the written page seem

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like it's on the right track of like we've got

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:37.640
<v Speaker 1>our female christ figure and we've got a queer reading

0:56:37.920 --> 0:56:41.719
<v Speaker 1>character who is present for much of the movie. But

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:45.720
<v Speaker 1>ultimately they are both deeply reliant and the plots deeply

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:50.640
<v Speaker 1>reliant on kind of your average white you know, ex military,

0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:54.280
<v Speaker 1>blue collar straight guy, and that that the Bruce Willis character.

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.400
<v Speaker 1>And so I I just it seems like such a

0:56:57.560 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>coppa for it's a job high con that movie that

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>could be doing so much more to ultimately tease you

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:07.959
<v Speaker 1>and pull in viewers with like, Hi, this is something

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to see in movies, like you want to

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 1>see women, you want to see queer people, you want

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to see people of color. But ultimately it's the same thing,

0:57:15.040 --> 0:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and the movie won't end unless the norm takes place,

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and so it's just like it's frustrating because it's for

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>so much of it. I'm on board, but the way

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it plays out, you're like, funk, you hit all this stuff.

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you? Like it's pretty and weird and French

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and unorthodox. But then at the end they're still like

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.959
<v Speaker 1>penises in janus right right, like it's ending a beam

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:41.160
<v Speaker 1>of light. Sure, oh my god, were they the first

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Never they did a reverse sky beam? Never mind, they

0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't do the sky beam going down. They did the

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>sky beam coming up. They didn't from her mouth because

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where love comes from, you know, the love hole.

0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So frustrating, Yeah, to thinks that were like the diva

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 1>character is like, she needs your help and she needs

0:58:01.840 --> 0:58:05.040
<v Speaker 1>your love, and it's like, does she she's a weapon,

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>she's a nuke? Do you have to make out with

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>this new right? Like I guess they're trying to humanize

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:13.400
<v Speaker 1>her in that moment, but it's to fringe this bomb

0:58:13.920 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 1>like and he's like, I'll do It's like, man, you

0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>know what humanizing her would do more than having other

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.919
<v Speaker 1>people tell you that is make her a person. Yeah,

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 1>that's if you wrote her as a person, Because all

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>of those are words on a page, and you can

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 1>change any of those any second, and you can tell

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that whole sequence where like the diva's singing opera and

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>then we cut back to Lee Lu fighting. You can

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>tell that everyone involved in the movie is like, oh

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:44.200
<v Speaker 1>my god, feminism, we get it. It's just like guys

0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>are like high fiving and patting themselves on their back, like,

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>oh m G seven, we did it, and it's like, no,

0:58:52.680 --> 0:58:55.959
<v Speaker 1>you're hot. You a woman kicked one time and within

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>minutes at this sequence ending, one will die and you'll

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>have ruce waves punched through her flesh. You did you

0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.560
<v Speaker 1>do it? To be fair, she already had a bullet

0:59:05.640 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 1>hole and he just reaches into it. But Fairy reaches

0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in my bullet hole. Daddy, get the stones, daddy. That's

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what I always said. That's like, where are the stone sounds?

0:59:20.080 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>They're in my daddy. He's like in her? What could

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>that possibly mean? Does that mean they're in her? Oh?

0:59:32.400 --> 0:59:36.640
<v Speaker 1>It does? So I think it bears. It bears telling

0:59:36.720 --> 0:59:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that during this moment, which is I think one of

0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:40.959
<v Speaker 1>the only moments where there's cut screens where two women

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:44.160
<v Speaker 1>are both doing equal They're both doing the most impossible

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.920
<v Speaker 1>thing you've ever seen in the world. And that's the

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 1>only time they showed to me and then Bruce will

0:59:49.840 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 1>hast seen punching a woman, which is not even the

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:56.080
<v Speaker 1>only time Bruce Willis has done that on screen, so

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, he just like he's like, oh the Stones,

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I got the and then everyone's like, whoop, sorry about

1:00:02.320 --> 1:00:06.960
<v Speaker 1>your deadpop. Yeah, then r I p Diva Bruce changes

1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 1>into and regretfully, I honestly lost a lot of interest

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:15.440
<v Speaker 1>once he took off the tank top. I really liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, well, is there anything anything anyone else wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about? Um? Let's see, uh consent? Did we

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<v Speaker 1>have Ruby Rod? Um? I think Ruby Road. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine because I keep doing like he keeps doing

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<v Speaker 1>like funny weird things with his accent to be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I heard it that way the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was like, okay, sounds good. But then

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby Rod, You're like, oh, Penis got it. I get

1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it because his dick get it. Because of Dick. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>that was everything I had. It's weird because it's like, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I even on first viewing, enjoyed this movie and it

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<v Speaker 1>is so like aesthetically fun and it moves so quickly

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<v Speaker 1>and it's on daily motion dot com. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 1>Mark could you want in a movie, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many, Like I think it's a as the classic

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<v Speaker 1>cas of like a nineties movie, trying to have it

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<v Speaker 1>every which way but ultimately playing to the norm. Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know in the end, wasn't it Ruby Rod

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<v Speaker 1>who fucked up opening the Stones? It's coming? He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have fire. Yeah, he's like, I quit smoking, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the day before we see him smoking a cigarette. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be real that Mike, that Mike is half my calf

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<v Speaker 1>vape new reboot where we blow vape smoke on the stones,

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<v Speaker 1>coolest stones ever. Man. We touched on us a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Corbin spends the whole movie condescending to the

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<v Speaker 1>woman he's in love with, and we'll end up with

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<v Speaker 1>at the in the love story makes no fucking it really,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't need to be there. She even says like love,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know love, and he's like, I'm gonna put

1:02:07.280 --> 1:02:09.480
<v Speaker 1>my face on you again, and it's like, bitch, that's

1:02:09.480 --> 1:02:13.040
<v Speaker 1>not love. Like you just like remember when I molested you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's give it a second shot, and this time it works.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess his horrible because she's so tired. Yes, she's

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<v Speaker 1>just this movie has beaten her down again or a

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<v Speaker 1>diet because she's had to like bear the like emotional

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<v Speaker 1>labor of like learning what war is and like being

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<v Speaker 1>the supreme being is like her Urkle where he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing you down, I'm wearing you down, But then

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<v Speaker 1>he does, and that's how the movie ends. And then

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<v Speaker 1>where her watching war and be like reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>fifty First Days when you're barrymore Hustle learned his two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five every day and she's like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is a negress governor? Like that was

1:03:02.840 --> 1:03:04.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of what it reminded me of. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the thing he's always like patronizing her

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<v Speaker 1>and condescending to her based on her she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a great grasp of the English language yet, even though

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<v Speaker 1>she's had a day to learn it and is doing

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good job with what she's got. What she

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<v Speaker 1>knows and what she doesn't know is very plot convenient.

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<v Speaker 1>She's supposed to know everything, but she doesn't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>that Bruce Willis can teach her, right, But then like

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<v Speaker 1>someone they're like trying to check into the Flying Titanic,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yes, they know what a fucking multi passes

1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, it's just like a movie pass And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, he's like really mean to her

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<v Speaker 1>and then she's like, but let's kiss. So yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>movie is weird. That's my last comment. So it was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If you still like it, that's fine. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we take some questions or comments from the audience?

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<v Speaker 1>Does anyone have anything they want to share, A question,

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<v Speaker 1>a comment they like to share. I guess someone yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, coming up. I just thought it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a movie very similar to Blade Runner

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<v Speaker 1>and also very similar in the sense that straight white

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<v Speaker 1>men love to try to explain it to you and, um,

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<v Speaker 1>help you understand why it's so good, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Man tears in the rain. He improved that

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<v Speaker 1>scene we had someone else. Are you gonna come up?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? Um? My name is Ben real quick? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So I noticed I just remembered that in Valerian, actually

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<v Speaker 1>there is another um. Both in this movie end in Valeria,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a scene where a woman does a big

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<v Speaker 1>song number in Valarious Rihanna and then does something to

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<v Speaker 1>help out the hero and then immediately dies to advance

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<v Speaker 1>the plot. So my question is, does Luke Bissan hate

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<v Speaker 1>female singers? Um? I think it was another thing where

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<v Speaker 1>Luc Bisson's black wife was like just something for me,

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<v Speaker 1>just Rihanna or like something. But even in that one,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like a comfort woman, a woman of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>and performing in all of those things is is how

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<v Speaker 1>she attracts people, as though being Rihanna was somehow not

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<v Speaker 1>enough in space. It's weird, it's like you if. I

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<v Speaker 1>also have the feeling that most of Luson's stories were

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<v Speaker 1>created when he was fourteen years old, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>writes women as if he is a holy proteenager and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bad writing. Oh god, how gross would be

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<v Speaker 1>if he was just like, oh, what's a younger version

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<v Speaker 1>of my wife to be in this movie? But I wasn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but I asked him. When I answer your question, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Luke Bisson doesn't respect women period. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think he loves a song and dance sequence and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna waste a man in this. Put someone

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<v Speaker 1>in some hot pants, yeah, make a prance for me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great and unfortunate point. Thank you. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>have any other questions? Anything. Oh yeah, come on down.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name? My name is Katie. When we were

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<v Speaker 1>watching this movie, my question was they find this hand

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<v Speaker 1>which doesn't look like her hand after she's made into

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<v Speaker 1>a person, do they design her like the creepy scientists

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<v Speaker 1>design her to look like that or is that like

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<v Speaker 1>her genetic code? Oh? Actually, this is something I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to touch on. I have to imagine they're just reconstructing

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<v Speaker 1>whatever like genetic material would like dictate her to end

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<v Speaker 1>up being like but that what ends up perhaps, so

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is using like he pronouns before they realize that

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<v Speaker 1>she is a woman. Uh so it's that woman's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>So this to me is a version of that trope

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like the person that you thought was a

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<v Speaker 1>man until they take off their helmet is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>woman and you don't even get the like the frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>but also the one redeeming part of that trope, as

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<v Speaker 1>you get to see that character be capable at something

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<v Speaker 1>before you find out they're a woman. And this woman

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<v Speaker 1>does not even isn't even afforded that. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>hand god like when she comes out of the Fiudi printer,

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<v Speaker 1>like she is perfect. Yeah, and they're like oh cool,

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<v Speaker 1>So she doesn't have any we don't really care, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just and you see her be literally like I

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<v Speaker 1>I feel as if you see her be literally born

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<v Speaker 1>in this thing that she later fox Bruce Willis in

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<v Speaker 1>because we all aspire to fuck Bruce Willis inside of

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<v Speaker 1>our moms, like fucking in your childhood bed, which is

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<v Speaker 1>still also your mom. Just I honestly wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>I never did, but you know it's it's fucking weird. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that they it is sort of that thing where they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it is it perfect that you can hetero fuck and

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the Lamo Coppa right, And then even like uh,

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<v Speaker 1>father Cornelius is like he's a she because everyone was,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess expecting the perfect sabreme being to be a man,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's a woman. But that has no impact on

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<v Speaker 1>the story except for the fact that then Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>can later have sex with her because he's hetero and

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<v Speaker 1>because hetero normativity. Are there any other questions or comments?

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Olman's canceled, so we can't comment on him at

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Alfred Molina should have a Billina would have

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<v Speaker 1>killed it. Alba Billina could have played Bruce Willis is

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<v Speaker 1>partly been thick Bruce Willis. That would have been great.

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<v Speaker 1>He I would love well. I don't not to take

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<v Speaker 1>parts away from women, but what if the hand traled

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<v Speaker 1>into Alfred Bollina. That would have been kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when everything else was exactly the same, he's

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<v Speaker 1>still Casses Bruce Wills at the end, there's still love.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know love. What if it Albert will appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in an incubator and they're like, perfect, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see I want Prince Well to be like five D

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<v Speaker 1>proud eyes, Alfa Molina, Lulu Dallas multi pass and then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that actually not to like, you know, uncast

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<v Speaker 1>the only woman in this movie, but I think Alva

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<v Speaker 1>Billina would be a great Lulu. Yeah. I would have

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<v Speaker 1>it was a gender neutral name exactly. Would have help Billina,

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<v Speaker 1>would have Bruce Willis kissed Alpha Billina and then alfread

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<v Speaker 1>Billina did kill Bruce Willis, and he's like, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>hero of the movie. Now this is the Alpha Blena movie.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Molina element, like Alpha Morlena. Yeah, so anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>we just uncast the female lead. Hey, does this movie

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<v Speaker 1>pass the Bechdel test? No? Not even a little bit. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's times where women speak to each other, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>usually the times I spot it was Lulu talking to

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<v Speaker 1>a woman in a service role who was not names. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know her name. Yeah, so yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big fat no on passing the Bechdel tests for this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Shall we write the movie on our nipple scale? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do zero to five nipples based on its portrayal and

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<v Speaker 1>representation of women. I'm gonna go ahead and give the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth element a half nipple. I mean between the like

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<v Speaker 1>wild objectification and sexualization of a female character who is

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<v Speaker 1>crucial to the story in the sense that she is

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<v Speaker 1>the fifth element and she's like the component they need

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<v Speaker 1>for the weapon against evil. But aside from that, like

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<v Speaker 1>her characterization, it's the whole born sexy yesterday trope. She

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<v Speaker 1>is there for gratuitous nudity a lot of the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She is has the brain of a baby essentially that

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<v Speaker 1>is very good at learning about war and she hates it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think someone watched that movie and they're like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>where's bad? Oh my god, I'm going to give up

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<v Speaker 1>on everything now until Bruce Willis puts one on me. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and then even like the moments where she's like kicking

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<v Speaker 1>ass just like feel like a very empty thing where well,

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<v Speaker 1>now Bruce Willis will respect her when he flex her

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<v Speaker 1>so dumb. Yeah, So I think the movie doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>handle anything well when it comes to representing women. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a half nipple from me, and I will give

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<v Speaker 1>it of course to Cormoran Dallas's cat. So um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that daniell Um. I'm going to give it a full nipple.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving it one full nip, if only because the

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<v Speaker 1>action scenes were really good and it did help launch

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<v Speaker 1>Miyadjoovic's career. Because of that, she was able to go

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<v Speaker 1>on and be an actual good actress in things where

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<v Speaker 1>she got to kick people in the face, and because

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<v Speaker 1>it was able to launch that career in other movies,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll get a full nip. Cool, I guess I'll go

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<v Speaker 1>half as well there there, It's just it's all the

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<v Speaker 1>progressist movie is trying to make us kind of self

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<v Speaker 1>defeating in a very way, uh that we see over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again, and as pleasant as I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>was to see some representation at the time of this

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<v Speaker 1>coming out, seeing it over twenty years later, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>even more frustrating to feel like you're trying to have

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<v Speaker 1>your cake and eat it too, of like, here's queer representation,

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<v Speaker 1>here's female representation. Just kidding, it's Ruse Wallas the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's frustrating. I am glad that it

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<v Speaker 1>was able to give credibility and a platform to actors

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<v Speaker 1>who wouldn't have had it otherwise, and that's more than

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of movies at this time did, and that

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<v Speaker 1>definitely deserves acknowledgement. But like plot wise, I would argue,

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<v Speaker 1>you could write out really every character on Bruce Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>team except for him, and the movie could feasibly play

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<v Speaker 1>out the exact same way, because even though we're told

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<v Speaker 1>over and over that Leelu is the chosen one, Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis is the chosen one according to this movie, because

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that needs to happen cannot happen without him

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<v Speaker 1>and without his choices every step of the way. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird that this movie is secretly all right, but

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<v Speaker 1>uh no, I mean it's just like it it hurts

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<v Speaker 1>to watch because you see a filmmaker who you can

1:13:48.960 --> 1:13:52.600
<v Speaker 1>tell thinks they're doing the right thing, but they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's frustrating, and so I'll give it a

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<v Speaker 1>half nipple. And I'm going to give my half nipple

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris Tucker Well. Danielle, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>being here. Thank you for having guest. Danielle Radford, Thank you.

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