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Speaker 2: Hile's are live on a reaction Monday edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely bo he is the great

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Speaker 3: Buddy?

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Speaker 4: On to twenty two? Baby, We're back, We're back. Here

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Speaker 4: we go, number two pick of the draft. We're onto

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. Gonna be a fun NFL playoffs. I think,

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Speaker 4: Uh barely hung on and won my fantasy league. They

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Speaker 4: played in Week eighteen, which is just subsirable and will

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Speaker 4: never happen again. I almost lost because Jade and Daniels

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Speaker 4: just they just were like, oh, yeah, this isn't a

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Speaker 4: real game.

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Speaker 5: He's not playing in the second half.

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, Marcus Mario's out there like wait,

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Speaker 4: what is going on?

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Speaker 5: And then Mariota had a great half.

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Speaker 2: By the way, by the way, we weren't alone in

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Speaker 2: the uh the futtlement of the Rams decision, everyone was like,

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Speaker 2: what are they doing.

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Speaker 5: It makes no sense. You could have been the four.

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Speaker 2: And at home in the four, I'm sorry, the three,

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Speaker 2: which would have then given you. You don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going on with Philly South. You saw what happened in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Sunday, like Washington, you could have gone. You

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Speaker 2: could have gone Washington then the winner of Green Bay

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Speaker 2: Philly and now you're in the NFC Championship game. Now

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to go Minnesota if you beat them,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think they will. Then you got Detroit.

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Speaker 6: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: And they act like it didn't matter.

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Speaker 5: I don't understand it at all.

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Speaker 2: Look, we had a pretty pretty newsy morning. Boy did

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Speaker 2: we lot going on? Huge news?

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Speaker 4: In fact, I would say news of the of the

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Speaker 4: biggest variety, which was Deshaun Watson. According to general manager

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Speaker 4: Andrew Berry, broke the news that Deshaun Watson had suffered

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Speaker 4: a setback in his torn Achilles tendon rehab recovery and

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Speaker 4: it will indeed affect the timeline of his return and

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Speaker 4: their speculation around the internet that this he may not

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Speaker 4: be ready at all for any portion of the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five season, which would not be surprising. It's not

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Speaker 4: from a follow up question, correct me if I have

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Speaker 4: this wrong. But I listened to it live and I

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Speaker 4: took some notes, but I thought he didn't we will

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Speaker 4: hold out for it to you by it that he

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Speaker 4: did not rule out that he may need another procedure. Well, listen,

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Speaker 4: this is and this is something we talked about about

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Speaker 4: a month ago in regard to Deshaun and in regard

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Speaker 4: to the plan for next season. Irregardless of the news

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Speaker 4: of today, this was an achilles injury that was a

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Speaker 4: year in rehabilitation before ready anyway, So that was next

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Speaker 4: November at the soonest, so set back. This isn't scores, kids,

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Speaker 4: This is common sense at a year and that's minimum

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Speaker 4: what you're looking at on that.

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Speaker 2: So that is a monumental Sorry, Bo, we have the quote,

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding.

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Speaker 5: We have the quote from a b AB's presser.

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Speaker 3: Ok here, keV can you play that? Yeah, one second,

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Speaker 3: it's just taking out.

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Speaker 4: Catching everybody off guard. Here, g Man, I love it.

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Speaker 4: He's g Man, he's back. G Man's feeling like he's back.

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Speaker 4: How about the New England Patriots going and beating the Bills,

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Speaker 4: going there one to five.

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Speaker 2: From to go from one to four?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: I think they get five, right.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it go? Tennessee US giants them all?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Got it clear? If you got want it? Yeah, here's aby.

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Speaker 7: I did want to give an update on Deshan yesterday

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Speaker 7: as we went through our normal player you know, medical process,

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Speaker 7: we did learn that he did have a setback in

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Speaker 6: Know, Achilles recovery.

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Speaker 7: We don't have all the details and everything yet, but

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Speaker 7: it obviously obviously extend the recovery process for him. It

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Speaker 7: So I don't have everything yet, but did want to

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that that changes everything? It changes everything. But

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Speaker 2: also in terms of like you're talking about back to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I see.

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Speaker 2: Why was my mic like in the sky, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to get a little elevation maybe, And so now you're

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Speaker 2: now that timetable moves back. So there was going to

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Speaker 2: the news of today. This just changes it a little

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Speaker 2: forth and forward, so on, but obviously a setback for

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Speaker 2: Watson and then everything then comes into question in terms

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that it's going to be for

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Speaker 4: the Browns, you know that is I think you're going

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Speaker 4: to be adding at least two people into that room. Well,

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Speaker 4: that's a veteran and a high draft pick, which I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of people. You know, you pick second,

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Speaker 4: And the hope is right we are not picking second

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Speaker 4: ever again, certainly not anytime soon.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, you knew that you needed to attack this

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Speaker 4: quarterback room aggressively. That has not changed, no, but it

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Speaker 4: changes some of the things. And you know, there's also

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Speaker 4: has been reported up upon by multiple new sources today

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Speaker 4: that they are also there are financial ramifications to this

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Speaker 4: as well with Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of the insurance policy and all of that.

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Speaker 4: We've seen that reported by over the Cap and some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that that is the overarching headline of the day.

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Speaker 2: The headline over the weekend is there will be some

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Speaker 2: changes on our coaching staff as well. Offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey,

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Speaker 2: offensive line coach Andy Dickerson. They've been relieved of their duties.

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Speaker 2: The suit new offensive coordinator begins in earnest today. I

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Speaker 2: do think it's important. I do think I'm very proud

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Speaker 2: of the job we did of laying out the philosophy

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Speaker 2: behind the Ken Dorsey higher. I think I think we

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Speaker 2: explained that very appropriately. For what that hire was. This

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Speaker 2: organization made a trade for Deshaun Watson, and in order

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Speaker 2: was to find somebody could who could create an offense

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Speaker 2: along with Kevin's expertise, that would fit to Shaun Watson's eye.

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Speaker 2: And that's what Ken Dorsey was. Ken Dorsey was brought

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Speaker 2: ran it for Josh Allen in Buffalo, and that was

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Speaker 2: the that was the job. The rub was always going

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Speaker 2: to be that isn't necessarily who Kevin is. And Kevin

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Speaker 2: got this job running a very different type of offense

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Speaker 2: because of his offensive acumen running that type of off course.

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Speaker 2: And so now and this isn't scores either. The thinking

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Speaker 2: would be that you would return to what made you

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Speaker 2: But who knows, but that I think what I think

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Speaker 2: their intent with Ken Dorsey was pretty straightforward and pretty honest,

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Speaker 4: Again, Andrew Berry used the words today, and it's something

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Speaker 4: it's so funny. I'm having deja vucause I'm like, wait

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Speaker 4: a second, We've talked about all this stuff. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: did Browns Countdown yesterday. Oh so you've said so I

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Speaker 4: have broke. I was like, wait a second, we're breaking

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Speaker 4: down the Ravens game again.

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Speaker 3: I did that.

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Speaker 5: I did talk about the coach. Yes, I did that.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wait a second, and then I realized that

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Speaker 5: That's exactly right. Look the Browns and this is what I.

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Speaker 4: Laid out on countdown. Okay, and I'll just we'll walk

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Speaker 4: walk through it. We've got two hours here. In this division,

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Speaker 4: you have Joe Burrow and you have Lamar Jackson, who are,

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Speaker 4: in my opinion and correct me if if you push

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Speaker 4: four best quarterbacks in.

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Speaker 2: The NFL, and I think they will very likely will

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Speaker 2: finish top three in the MVP.

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Speaker 4: Yes, both of them. Maybe Burrough mar Jackson really should

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Speaker 4: have win it this year, should win it. Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: what he's lifting up around him.

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Speaker 2: But Lamarx maybe had one of the best seasons of

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Speaker 4: Well, he's the only one who's ever ever had thrown

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Speaker 4: for four thousand yards and run for nex hundred in

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Speaker 4: the season and not to mention forty one touchdowns I

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Speaker 4: think ended up at forty one.

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Speaker 2: Yes, led the league in passer rating forty.

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Speaker 4: One touchdowns four picks, had the second best passer rating

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Speaker 4: he runs for nine hundred yards LEAs the league and

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Speaker 2: He had to he had to negotiate his own contract.

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Speaker 2: There was he was available. He was available to the league.

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Speaker 2: when they signed Monk and you went, oh God, let.

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Speaker 4: Me tell you not his the work that he's put

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Speaker 4: to give him all the credit in the world.

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Speaker 5: The players love him. He's a complete leader, he's a stud.

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Speaker 4: All yeah, so all it going back to the two

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Speaker 3: Believe all he.

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Speaker 5: Does is when Super bowls, and it sounds like a

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Speaker 2: And not even making a Pro Bowl this year, not even.

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Speaker 4: A non pro bowler.

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Speaker 5: And they went, uh, sixteen to one.

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Speaker 4: Fifteen, well, fifteen and one and sixteen and a punt. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: by the way, I think they may have like two

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Speaker 4: first downs yesterday. Think shout out Denver defense. Appreciate what

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Speaker 4: put forward. They they did not try at all. They

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Speaker 5: A couple of times. He had sacked like five time.

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Speaker 3: It was bad.

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Speaker 4: Yes. So anyway, you've got these two in your division,

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Speaker 4: while they're not it doesn't feel like right now, built

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Speaker 4: to be a threat to win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: They're annoying and they have a winning record every year.

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Speaker 4: Yep. So if you want to win your division, you

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Speaker 4: have to beat a team that never has a losing record,

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Speaker 4: and then two of the three best quarterbacks or four

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Speaker 4: but probably potentially three of them in a row. Yep.

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Speaker 4: So you understand why when the trade was made for

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Speaker 4: this ILK, why you take that swing. You take the

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Speaker 2: No one was sure of Drake May. Nobody was Daniels

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Speaker 5: Good about their futures.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? How are we gonna pie

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Speaker 2: You can get an incredible influx of talent.

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Speaker 4: Folks.

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Speaker 2: We have not we have to this spot two thirds.

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Speaker 2: We have not picked in this type of spot since

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Speaker 2: They gotta hit them, gott hit him, gotta hit them.

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Speaker 4: But no, you're right, and that's why this is such

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Speaker 5: That's true, but it's also not true.

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Speaker 5: Get to one.

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Speaker 2: That's position New England was in before before they won

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Speaker 5: Agreed, agreed, and we'll see it.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, as we get through this process, maybe

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Speaker 4: At the same time, the quickest way to turn your

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Speaker 2: And it's never been easier. Is currently for a player

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Speaker 4: I don't. My takeaway from Andrew Berry earlier today is.

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Speaker 5: That that was not.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to put anything out there, but the

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Speaker 5: That's all you need.

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Speaker 4: I do?

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Speaker 5: And what really bums media? I think?

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Speaker 5: Did I lose by one?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure?

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Speaker 3: Run and I said, I can assure you.

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Speaker 5: I said, Lamar Jackson came out for the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: I said, who's that awful out.

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Speaker 5: Like Lamar Jackson out there?

445
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Speaker 4: Give it?

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Speaker 3: And every time Derrick Henry out of carry, I have

447
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Speaker 3: a specific talkback to each one of the guys on

448
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Speaker 3: the broadcast and I would specifically get in his ear

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Speaker 3: and goes, there's another one.

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Speaker 5: So how did I do it?

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Speaker 8: All?

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Speaker 4: Right?

453
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Speaker 2: You went three and two, so you got the Lamar

454
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Speaker 2: Jackson over. Quarters played, you got the under on the sacks.

455
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Speaker 2: You initially lived it.

456
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Speaker 5: I thought I had forgotten, and we only had three differences.

457
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Speaker 2: You flipped, so you flipped to the under on sax turner,

458
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Speaker 2: which we had none, and then you got the over.

459
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Speaker 2: Gibbe went one and four. The only thing he got

460
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Speaker 2: was the Henry Carey's so you went saved forty one

461
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Speaker 2: and forty and he went forty one and forty. So

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Speaker 2: what do we do now postseason?

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Speaker 5: I guess this is what I would say.

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Speaker 4: To be the man, you gotta beat the man Ty

465
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Speaker 4: goes to the champion. What do they do.

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Speaker 2: That's like, that's like the like the Ryder cup who.

467
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Speaker 9: Still undefeated, baby still undefeated, undefeated, never lost, never lost.

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Speaker 9: Gibb add another taco bell to the list, because my friend,

469
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Speaker 9: you had it.

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Speaker 4: You had in the.

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Speaker 5: Palm of your little hands, Gibbe. It was so close.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe. It's the flip the Browns went with

473
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Speaker 2: a donut nothing. I was two and a half. That's

474
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Speaker 2: how low.

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Speaker 5: That's how low it was. I know, and I know

476
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Speaker 5: what I'm doing it anyway, you flipped it.

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Speaker 2: You flipped it because you just what you'd want to

478
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Speaker 2: go opposite him on game.

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Speaker 4: That was.

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Speaker 3: In the second half of the game. It was the

481
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Speaker 3: talk in our booth, like every commercial break, we were

482
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Speaker 3: like where are we?

483
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Speaker 4: I forgot that I had flipped that one, and I knew.

484
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Speaker 4: I was like I had, I should have flipped it

485
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Speaker 4: because I had to. But then an as you said that, now,

486
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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh yeah, I did keept for that exact reason,

487
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Speaker 4: because if I only went APO on three of them,

488
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Speaker 4: I would have needed to go three and oh on

489
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Speaker 4: those three, So I needed to have a fourth one

490
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Speaker 4: in there so I could still go three and one

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Speaker 4: and still tie.

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Speaker 2: As He pointed out, if we don't score that touchdown,

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Speaker 2: they may have.

494
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Speaker 3: Pulled the fourth because Johnson was warming up on the

495
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Speaker 3: sideline and I was like, he's warming up, warm up.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Here's the only pushback I'd give to that is they

498
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Speaker 4: still were playing them when they were up twenty eight

499
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Speaker 4: to ten with like no a couple of minutes left,

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Speaker 4: and then Derrick Henry rips off the long one, which

501
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Speaker 4: not only did that for me, which kept the title.

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Speaker 5: The big gold belt around my waist.

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Speaker 3: Brother. Yeah, going to the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, would you like to hold this GiB?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to hold it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, change my mind.

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Speaker 5: Champions prerogative.

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Speaker 8: Ye.

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Speaker 3: Oh we're so back.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they so close, so close yet so far.

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Speaker 2: Well you'll here for general manager Andrew Berry at the podium.

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Speaker 7: All Right, sit here in front of you with a

529
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Speaker 7: season where we just won three games, and I really

530
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Speaker 7: share in our fans disappointment, frustration. Clossly, I'm embarrassed with

531
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Speaker 7: the results that we've had as a team this year.

532
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 7: Just plainly put, we didn't meet expectations. Our decisions coming

533
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Speaker 7: into the year didn't meet expectations, and ultimately that responsibility

534
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Speaker 7: it lies at my feet, you know, thinking back a

535
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Speaker 7: little bit too a year ago, where we were coming

536
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Speaker 7: off in eleven one season going into the playoffs. Our

537
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Speaker 7: goal has always been to perform at that level or

538
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Speaker 7: a higher level on a consistent basis. And in order

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Speaker 7: for us to do that, especially as we look at

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Speaker 7: this season.

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Speaker 6: You know, we really have to look at everything.

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Speaker 7: It's it's you know, an objective and hard analysis at

543
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Speaker 7: you know, at each position group and the roster. It's

544
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Speaker 7: you know, looking at what we're doing to put our

545
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Speaker 7: our players.

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Speaker 6: In the best position to be successful.

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Speaker 7: It's looking about how we practice, how we train to

548
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Speaker 7: avoid you know, the major losses that we've had in

549
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Speaker 7: player availability over the past couple of years.

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Speaker 6: We really do have to look at everything.

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Speaker 7: I think it probably goes without saying that to reach

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Speaker 7: that level of consistency, you know, we have to have

553
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Speaker 7: consistent availability and consistent performance at the QB position as well.

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Speaker 7: And that's something that's been elusive for us for the

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Speaker 7: past couple of seasons, and that's something that we have

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Speaker 7: to be able to fix in remedy. I'll share you

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Speaker 7: know with you all this morning that you know, I

558
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Speaker 7: was recently listening to John Maxwell talking. John Maxwell, he's

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Speaker 7: a former pastor longtime leadership executive coach. He was like

560
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Speaker 7: a New York Times bestseller and he was talking about

561
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Speaker 7: he was he was talking about the topic of how

562
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Speaker 7: to get a positive return on failure and he used

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Speaker 7: this term he talked about like good misses and bad misses.

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Speaker 7: And it stuck with me because I've listened to Kevin

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Speaker 7: coach quarterbacks for five years and he uses the same

566
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Speaker 7: terminology where it's like, hey, you're gonna misthrows, but let's

567
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Speaker 7: make sure they're a good miss or a bad miss.

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Speaker 7: And the way John categorized, you know, good failure or

569
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Speaker 7: excuse me, good misses versus bad misses is with good

570
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Speaker 7: misses they force you to adjust their failures where you

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Speaker 7: learn and you have to.

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Speaker 6: Adjust where.

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Speaker 7: The bad misses they're the ones where you don't learn

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Speaker 7: anything and you make excuses. And we have a lot

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Speaker 7: of good people in our organization from you know, core

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Speaker 7: group of players, good coaches, good people in football operations.

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Speaker 7: We will make adjustments and we will learn from this

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Speaker 7: and we will grow for this. I will learn from

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Speaker 7: this and I will grow from this to ultimately deliver

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Speaker 7: the results that you know, our fan base deserves and.

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Speaker 6: In our organization return deserves.

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Speaker 7: The last thing I'll do before I open up with questions,

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Speaker 7: I did want to give an update on Deshaun so yesterday,

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Speaker 7: as we went through our normal player you know, medical process,

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Speaker 7: we did learn that he did have a set back

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Speaker 7: in his you know Achilles recovery. We don't have all

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Speaker 7: the details in everything yet, but it obviously obviously extend

588
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Speaker 7: the recovery process for him. It is new information, just

589
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 7: learned in the past couple hours, So I don't have

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Speaker 7: everything yet, but did want to make you all aware

591
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Speaker 7: of it before before opening up for questions. So with that,

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Speaker 7: I'll leave it to you.

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Speaker 10: As far as Deshaun's concerned, that does that take him

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Speaker 10: out of their running for next year or how does

595
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Speaker 10: that impact.

596
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Speaker 11: Him coming into game?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Tom, it's it's too it's too early to it's

598
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Speaker 7: too early to tell.

599
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Speaker 6: I don't have all the information. Obviously, in a.

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Speaker 7: Situation like that, you know, I don't want to one

601
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Speaker 7: thing I said I have learned from this year. I

602
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Speaker 7: don't want to rule out anything with a with a

603
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Speaker 7: major injury. We are still collecting all the information, and

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Speaker 7: you know, obviously our focus is making sure that he

605
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Speaker 7: can get as healthy as possible. About this yesterday, Yeah,

606
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Speaker 7: so we typically in our end of your end of

607
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Speaker 7: your process, all the players go through what we call

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Speaker 7: exit physicals, and it's something that we learned yesterday.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you've drafted one quarterback in five years, and of

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Speaker 12: course Watson's the biggest acquisition you made. Do you think

611
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Speaker 12: you need to fix the process in finding the next quarterback?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Tony, it's it's it's a good question.

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Speaker 7: I think as we go into the off season, like

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Speaker 7: we have to, we have to look at everything like

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Speaker 7: we really we really do, and you know, we want

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Speaker 7: to make sure that we're eyes wide open in terms

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Speaker 7: of you know what, you know, what we're what we're

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Speaker 7: doing across football operations. That being said, you know, we

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Speaker 7: have good people, we have good coaches. We understand how

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Speaker 7: important the quarterback position is, you know, and that's obviously

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Speaker 7: going to be a primary goal as we entered the

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Speaker 7: off season.

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Speaker 4: How do you look at how did the decision to

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Speaker 4: change the offensive coaching staff around and the coaches the

625
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Speaker 4: whole offense thing, you know, how did that come about

626
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Speaker 4: last year?

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Speaker 13: And then where are you with that going.

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Speaker 4: Forward into this year?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so I think whenever you talk about coaching staff,

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Speaker 7: you know, Kevin's goal is to make sure that he

632
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Speaker 7: surrounds our players and builds a system that can accuate,

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Speaker 7: accentuate their strengths and really minimize their their weaknesses. Any

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Speaker 7: decision that he makes in that regard is you know,

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Speaker 7: is really with you know, is really with that mind.

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Speaker 7: A lot of things didn't go well for us offensively.

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Speaker 7: We didn't we didn't perform up the standard. We didn't

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Speaker 7: perform you know, nearly nearly well enough.

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Speaker 6: And I know when you know, Kevin met with you.

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Speaker 7: All yesterday, he was talking about he wants to make

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Speaker 7: sure that we have a sound and explosive offense, and

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Speaker 7: that'll really be the focus for us moving forward.

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Speaker 4: With Kevin's idea to kind of get away from sort

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Speaker 4: of the things that they had done.

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Speaker 14: Well in the past, walking and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say this, Terry, the probably the better way

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Speaker 7: to characters that, like Kevin believes in putting a system

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Speaker 7: around the players, like around the player strains, and the

649
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Speaker 7: nature of the NFL is that your players, they they

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Speaker 7: will change from year to year. You know, what we

651
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Speaker 7: may have been good, well, we may have been good

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Speaker 7: at in twenty twenty maybe different than twenty twenty one

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Speaker 7: or twenty twenty three, different than twenty twenty four. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: like what we put together this year wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 7: You know, we didn't play well enough on that side

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Speaker 7: of the ball, you know, but have full faith that

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Speaker 7: that that Kevin will be able to to put it

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Speaker 7: together and allows have better results.

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Speaker 8: Impact your quarterback acquisition strategy.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say that it has a significant impact. Mary Kay,

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Speaker 7: I think you know the reality of it is, you

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Speaker 7: know that room, you know it will look different, you

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Speaker 7: know next year.

665
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: You know it may obviously impact how.

666
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 7: You know what the room looks like as we entered

667
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 7: entered the season or camp, depending on the severity of

668
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 7: the you know, the setback.

669
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Speaker 6: But I wouldn't say that it had a significant impact.

670
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 11: Andrew, do you obviously Miles was strong about not wanting

671
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 11: to go to rebuild.

672
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: First of all, do you think a rebuild.

673
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Speaker 6: Tardot isn't necessary.

674
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Speaker 7: Yes, I don't imagine an off season where we're you know,

675
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 7: moving on from a ton of core players. Like I

676
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 7: think a lot of the decisions as we think about out,

677
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 7: you know, some of the areas that we may need

678
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 7: to strategically pivot is going to be about both short

679
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 7: term and long term decisions. So, like I do expect

680
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 7: there to be some some turnover on the roster, but

681
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 7: the idea that we would get rid of, you know,

682
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 7: some of our cornerstone players, you know, I don't necessarily

683
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 7: see that as a viable.

684
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 11: Path you can win next year, You did, Miles, I

685
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 11: guess by the blueprint that he was looking for.

686
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe I'll answer that in two parts.

687
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 7: So let me say, in terms of Miles, my anticipation,

688
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 7: expectation is that he'll have a you know, a direct

689
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 7: ticket from Cleveland the Canton at the end of the year,

690
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 7: and expect him to be here, you know, and retire

691
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 7: Brown Quite frankly, in terms of winning, like you know,

692
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 7: our goal is always going to be to win our

693
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 7: way goal is always going to be to improve the team.

694
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 7: I think, you know, one of the beauties of the NFL.

695
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 7: I think, I guess maybe a parallel you think about

696
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 7: the team that was holding the two pick last year.

697
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 6: We're going to see them next week play.

698
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 7: I don't quite sure where they played, Peter, but we

699
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 7: see Washington play in the playoffs this year.

700
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 6: So you can never really, never, never really.

701
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: Put necessarily a timeframe on it. Like you know, with

702
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 7: player movement and how things change in the NFL, it's

703
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 7: hard to have a crystal ball. But we really will

704
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 7: be focused on, you know, making the decisions that we

705
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 7: think can not just allow us to have a you know,

706
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 7: a ten or eleven win blip, but really allow us

707
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 7: to stay there. And so that will be balancing about

708
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 7: the short term and long term.

709
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 10: So Nick Chop, I mean last year you were so complimentation,

710
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 10: But do you still envision him having a future here

711
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 10: and can he get back to being a top back?

712
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

713
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Speaker 7: You know, Actually I want to start by saying, I

714
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 7: think everybody in this room knows how much respect that

715
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 7: we have for Nick and how much appreciation we have

716
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 7: for you know, not just like his his exploits on

717
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 7: the field, but who he is in the locker room

718
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 7: and who he is as a person. You know, it's

719
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 7: it's always a challenging situation when you know one of

720
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 7: your cornerstone players their their contract is up. That's probably

721
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 7: maybe a little bit the different situation you know, this

722
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 7: year relative to you know, relative to last where there

723
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 7: is maybe perhaps a little bit you know, less control

724
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 7: on the club side with you know, with it. You know,

725
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 7: those are all decisions that we do have to work

726
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 7: through in the next several weeks. We love Nick, He's

727
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 7: he's going to be a Ring of Honor player for us,

728
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 7: and and and we know that in terms of the

729
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 7: short term.

730
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: You know, that's that's something that quite honest. So we

731
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 6: just have to work through over the next several weeks.

732
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 8: Hey, going back to the offense and the change that

733
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 8: we made last.

734
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 6: Year, is my understanding.

735
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Speaker 11: You reached out to Buffalo, we got a pretty honest

736
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 11: evaluations of Ken's strengths and weaknesses.

737
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 6: Who was behind the decision to bring Kit here? And

738
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: then why were you still comfortable bringing him on when

739
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 6: you got a pretty one assessment from Buffalo?

740
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 4: What didn't work there? Yeah?

741
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Speaker 7: So, you know, Jason, I'd say number one when it

742
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 7: comes to the coaching staff, that's you know, that's Kevin's decision.

743
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: It's Kevin's Kevin's responsibility. Number two. Like with anyone that

744
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: we bring.

745
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 7: Into the organization, we do we do do a lot

746
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 7: of diligence as as you reference. You know, really the

747
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 7: stuff out of Buffalo was you know what, Actually, let

748
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 7: me back up for a second. I think, and Kevin

749
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 7: mentioned this yesterday, the offensive struggles they were not just

750
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 7: about Ken, Like, I think it would be unfair of

751
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 7: us to to suggest that because we didn't perform appropriately.

752
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 6: On offense, that.

753
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 7: You know that it would be pinned on him, because

754
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 7: that's you know that's it's just not the it's just

755
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 7: not the case.

756
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 6: I'd say.

757
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 7: Secondly, you know, Ken was an excellent professional. He's a

758
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 7: good coach. You know, he's he's he's really strong in

759
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 7: a number of areas, you know, particularly all our po game,

760
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 7: the temple world, the pass game, things like that. I

761
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 7: think the circumstances this year across a variety of levels.

762
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 7: You know, we're you know, we're not ideal for the

763
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 7: offensive staff, just being just being quite blunt.

764
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 6: But in terms of Ken Dorsey, he's he's a good coach.

765
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 6: You know, all the work.

766
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 7: That that we had on him, that Kevin had done

767
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 7: on him, you know, we felt really comfortable with with

768
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 7: what we were bringing into the building.

769
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's going to land on his feet

770
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 6: and he's going to be successful.

771
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 12: When you when you examined your missus was not bringing

772
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 12: Flaco back a good mess or bad mess.

773
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'd say this, you know, Tony, you know, in

774
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 7: terms of like the the backup quarterback, you know, world,

775
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 7: I don't know that really what we had on the

776
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 7: offensive side the ball and how we played on offense

777
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 7: would have been influenced by like one change in the decision.

778
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 7: I think it was probably a variety of things that

779
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 7: that you know, led to our challenges out to that

780
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 7: side the ball. We we you know, we didn't play,

781
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 7: We didn't play as consistently upfront as we're accustomed to doing. Obviously,

782
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 7: we dealt with injuries and inconsistency at quarterback, We dealt

783
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 7: with injuries at the end of the year.

784
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 6: At the skill positions. We turned the ball over a lot.

785
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 7: I don't know that there was a you know, a

786
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 7: cure all decision, you know, regardless of quarterback or any

787
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 7: other position that would have changed the fortunes of the offense.

788
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 6: You know, it's collective collective failure for us.

789
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 10: There, Andrew, when you go through like a business.

790
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 4: Makes a succest, a significant move like you did with Watson,

791
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: all the assets of everything you go into it that

792
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: explos backwards.

793
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: Or whatever you want to call out this.

794
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: So one, have you looked at where they went wrong?

795
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 13: And secondly that how do you recover.

796
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 6: With again accounts UT three.

797
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 10: Million or whenever on the cap the next.

798
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: Couple of years.

799
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 13: So can you address call where it went wrong?

800
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 12: And then how do you recover?

801
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I'd say, you know, Terry, you know, probably

802
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 7: first and foremost, I think that you know to date

803
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 7: that the trade hasn't gone as we had hoped or anticipated,

804
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 7: hasn't gone how you and the Shawn has hoped or anticipated.

805
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 7: I think certainly a big part of it is you know,

806
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 7: the stop start with the availability and that you know,

807
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 7: we we never have gotten consistent performance at you know,

808
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 7: at that at that position. I think there's a variety

809
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 7: of factors in that. That's not just you know, not

810
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 7: just the quarterback. You know, we all share in in

811
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 7: culpability with that. The one thing is like when you

812
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 7: do you know, looking you know, we've never been afraid

813
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 7: to take big swings, things that we think can help

814
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 7: the team and help the organization. You know, sometimes you'll

815
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: sometimes you'll hit, and sometimes they.

816
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 6: Won't go quite according to quite according to plan.

817
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 7: But the one thing that we always do look at

818
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 7: is you understand, with with any with any business where

819
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 7: you take on risk or you where you make decisions,

820
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 7: you understand that there is both like upside and downside.

821
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 7: There's no such thing as like a riskless transaction. And

822
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 7: one thing that we always do want to do is

823
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 7: is really protect you know, protect our downside as much

824
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 7: as you can, and you know we will be positioned,

825
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 7: you know, moving forward, you know, both from a cap perspective,

826
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 7: and I hate how we got here, but you with

827
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 7: having the second pick in the draft, whether we select

828
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 7: a player or use it to to to you know, maximize,

829
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 7: in another way, it gives us an opportunity to to

830
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 7: really to really pivot if we need to. Let me

831
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 7: let me go here first, and I'll come back to you, Daryl,

832
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 7: just because you've asked me.

833
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 10: Along the lines of where you guys are in the draft,

834
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 10: how does the last three years of not having a

835
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 10: first round pick sort of impact or influence how you

836
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 10: guys are kind of treat both I guess the number

837
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 10: two pick, but also kind of what you do, Like

838
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 10: do you feel like you almost is there any sort.

839
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 8: Of sense you needed to play catch up.

840
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 6: A little bit and try to get some player. Certainly

841
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 6: when you're like in a.

842
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: You know, when you're in a deficit from a draft

843
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 7: asset perspective, like, you know, it does create certain it

844
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 7: can create certain challenges. That's necess not necessarily how we

845
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 7: would look at it at this point. Not necessarily in

846
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 7: terms of you know, creating catch ups or trying to

847
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 7: catch up so to speak, we'd actually really look at

848
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 7: it from like, Okay, as we analyza roster, you know,

849
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 7: who are our core players short term and long term?

850
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: You know, what are some of the areas where you

851
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 7: know we would need to make some immediate improvements versus, hey,

852
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 7: this is something that's maybe a longer term lurking need

853
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 7: and really operate from there, because it's it's it's it's

854
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 7: less about what's happened in the past. That's you know,

855
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 7: to some degree irrelevant at that point, and more about

856
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 7: where are we starting from a from a baseline standpoint,

857
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 7: and that's how we'll make decisions moving forward.

858
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 10: Left tackle, What are you envision there? I mean, is

859
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 10: there a world that Judge Wills is back here? And

860
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 10: did you guys see enough out of Dwan Jones to

861
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 10: feel like habit evaluation.

862
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: Of him over there?

863
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, So maybe to start with Jed, it's probably like

864
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 7: all of our players with expiring deals where you know,

865
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 7: there's we've got to work through all of that in

866
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 7: the next in the next several weeks, you know. With

867
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 7: the wand we did feel like he was actually you know,

868
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 7: hitting his stride before he got injured.

869
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, middle of the year.

870
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 7: It is funny because Kevin was like, hey, you know,

871
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 7: let's just kick him over to left tackle during during

872
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 7: one of the practice weeks, and then we had the injury.

873
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 7: It was like, oh, well, I guess he's got to

874
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 7: play the next week.

875
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 6: It ended up being I guess.

876
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: Uh uh uh, you.

877
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 7: Know, pressy and if you if you speak, And I

878
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 7: think the wanders aers credit because it's really like the

879
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 7: first time in his career that he's played at the

880
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 7: spot with probably minimal preparation, and you know, he he

881
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 7: acclimated pretty pretty quickly.

882
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 6: How that spot.

883
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 7: Looks going into twenty twenty five, it's probably too early,

884
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 7: too early to tell, but we did feel like it

885
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 7: was good to get him some game.

886
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 6: Experience at that position.

887
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 11: Being the my Hall injury start Mike Hall to give

888
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 11: me any surgery after the n MRI.

889
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 7: So he did sustain an injury that you know will

890
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 7: be in the will be in the months.

891
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 6: Uh.

892
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 7: Surgery certainly is a is a possibility, you know, but

893
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 7: he should he should return and perform. Scott I kind

894
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 7: of put this in the bucket of and I'll go

895
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 7: back to last year at this time when we had

896
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 7: maybe estimates with some of our key players and they

897
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 7: probably they probably went a little bit longer than normal.

898
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: So I'm trying to handle it a little bit differently

899
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 7: this year, just because with these longer term injuries, it

900
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 7: is a little bit more, it is a little bit

901
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 7: more variable, and I don't want to lead you as straight.

902
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 6: Chance you could be ready for That's correct, Yeah, that's correct.

903
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 3: All right.

904
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 6: I appreciate you guys. All right, ticket easy, All right,

905
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 6: there you.

906
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,520
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907
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,759
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922
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: today in the division, the headliner being that Cincinnati has

923
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: fired defensive coordinator lou Anarumo. Some other firings on that staff.

924
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: Offensive line coach moves on, there's a d line coach,

925
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: a linebacker coach. All moves on from that situation down

926
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati.

927
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 4: Linebacker coach, linebacker's played well. Our guy Jermaine Pratt had

928
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 4: a very nice season.

929
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: He's gone to the other thing was interesting. I saw

930
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Albert Breer with this on the Anarumo. Apparently Burrough and

931
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: defensive stars were like, really, don't do that.

932
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: The fact that their defense didn't perform is not on

933
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: lou Anarumo, because clearly when lou Anarumo had talent, they

934
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 4: performed at a very very high level. In fact, if

935
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: you go back a few years ago when they went

936
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: to Super Bowl, we're talking about he was going to

937
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 4: be the next head coach in the hot coaching candidate,

938
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 4: all of it. The person that should be in the

939
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 4: most trouble in that organization is the GM. And now

940
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 4: you're gonna know what you're gonna say, is that's hard

941
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: because an SNC is the owner, but isn't Duke Tobin

942
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 4: also he.

943
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Is, he's the head of their of their Yeah.

944
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: You didn't draft well on defense because and you used

945
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 4: significant resources for the defense. That was their plan was

946
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 4: we're gonna let these expensive guys go, We're gonna draft

947
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: and replace. But that has not worked out at all.

948
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 4: So why is he not on.

949
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Their Their failures to draft suitable replacements on the defense

950
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: and on the offensive line. Really around the Borough drafting

951
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: and post the Borough drafting got them in this spot.

952
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: Not lou Anrimo.

953
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

954
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: It'd be very interesting offseason down there for them. You

955
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: heard Burrows comments post game Saturday after the win at

956
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh when he said, look, our organization wouldn't be in

957
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 2: the habit of losing great players. T Hibbins is Hibbins.

958
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: Higgins is a great player, so Geno benders and how

959
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: they can't pay him and have to now repay do

960
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase bigger than than Jefferson? He won the Triple

961
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: Crown it wasn't close.

962
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: No, He's the only one ever have seventeen hundred yards

963
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: seventeen touchdowns in the same season.

964
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. So they basically wasted an all time quarterback receiver

965
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 2: season and missed the postseason. They, by the way, last

966
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: two years they met the postseason with winning records. So

967
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: that's not great. Not great on that side of things either.

968
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: Other firings around the league, the Patriots fired head coach

969
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: Jared Mayo. They beat Buffalo yesterday, which cost them the

970
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: one pick in the draft. They fell to four. The

971
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: other thing, which is an incredible slidings doors moment. Remember

972
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: New England went to Cincinnati, which Jakobe Brissette and beat

973
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: the Bengals sixteen to ten in Week one. If that

974
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: just goes the way that it should have, Cincinnati's in

975
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: New England's pick and one, sixteen to ten they won

976
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati.

977
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Week one. Yeah, they have struggled early in seasons.

978
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you, it is incredible. They did not

979
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 4: make the playoffs, and you would think that there have

980
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: to be big changes. I don't see how they keep

981
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 4: what they had together together. That'll certainly be interesting in

982
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 4: terms of tea as well, because he's going to command

983
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: top dollar.

984
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: He's the number one. He's got to be the number

985
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: one free agent or a short list of the number

986
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: one free agents available free agents in the whole league

987
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: at any position, at any position. Yeah, that's right.

988
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's.

989
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: A strange, strange path that certainly they're taking down there.

990
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 4: We've made obviously some small changes as well here that

991
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 4: I don't think we'll be small and I think you saw,

992
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 4: you know, overall, even the comments from our offensive line

993
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 4: all of that, that you want to get back to

994
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 4: running what has been our bread and butter and has

995
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 4: been very successful. And I think it sounds like that's

996
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: where we're war headed.

997
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: All indications seem to be that Mike Rabel would be

998
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: the man in New England. It certainly checks everybody. He

999
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: went in the Hall of Fame. That's in part why

1000
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: if you read the step about what happened to him

1001
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, in part because of how gracious he was

1002
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: at the Patriots that led to his dismissal in Tennessee.

1003
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: He's a legend in New England. They have a franchise quarterback,

1004
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: they have a bunch of cap space, they have the

1005
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: fourth pick in the draft, so they can flip in

1006
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: a hurry in New England back to competitiveness, and to me,

1007
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: that is a really nice spot to land. The Jaguars

1008
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: did fire head coach Doug Peterson this morning. Trent Balkey remains,

1009
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: which is wild, but he remains as the general manager.

1010
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson is out in Jacksonville. So as we stand

1011
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: right now, Chicago, New Orleans, the Jets, Jacksonville, New England.

1012
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: Those are your open jobs. How would you rank those?

1013
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 5: I would say.

1014
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: Real quick, Chicago and Jacksonville and New England. You also

1015
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: would be going into spots where they're already is a

1016
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: general manager in place. They're all keep their decision makers

1017
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: on that side of things. Now with Mike, I'm guessing

1018
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 2: he would he'd work with Elliott.

1019
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: And to me, the most attractive is Vegas is the

1020
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: least attractive. To me, I just think, I mean, you've

1021
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 4: got Denver three teams in the playoffs. The Chiefs aren't

1022
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 4: going anywhere. Denver seems to be a sending. The Charters

1023
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: are a sending. That to me, just from what you

1024
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: have to do on a day and day out basis

1025
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 4: is not great. I like Drake May, I like what

1026
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 4: New England's got cap room all of that, but you

1027
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 4: know you are going to be dealing with.

1028
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 5: Buffalo for a long time.

1029
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 4: The one to me that feels and maybe I'm just foolish,

1030
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 4: but I think where you're talking about, you've got Trevor Lawrence,

1031
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: You've got Brian Thomas on a rookie contract. You have

1032
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: a legit billionaire owner who will spend money to get

1033
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 4: whatever they need to do to win. His money is

1034
00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: not from the franchise liquid quite liquid. So I I

1035
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 4: and that division is probab of the availables. The NFC

1036
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: North is a murderer's row and at AFC East is

1037
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: probably second or easiest because the AFC West is a

1038
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 4: murderer's row too. So I think Jacksonville is the one

1039
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 4: where you get the right coach, you get the right coordinator.

1040
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 4: You know, you get Ben Johnson in there. You get

1041
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: and I still like Lawrence. I still like Lawrence a lot.

1042
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: You got, like I said, you have a legit number

1043
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 4: one on a for four more years on a rickey deal,

1044
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: four more years of Brian Thomas.

1045
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: Both there in New England. I like the quarterbacks and

1046
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: I like ownership, yea. I like the pieces in Chicago,

1047
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 2: because I think Caleb Williams is better, much better than

1048
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: he showed this year, and by no means I think

1049
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: he's a bus But that ownership just has been a

1050
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: mess and their power structure has been a mess forever.

1051
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: So that's that's the thing you're kind of going up

1052
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: against there. I think Vegas, not to mention that division

1053
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 2: is brutal, brutal. I think Vegas, the Jets in New

1054
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: Orleans are tough spots. Lands the division is better, but like,

1055
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: what what is your roadmap to build? I think the

1056
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: Jets are The Jets in Vegas are in a really

1057
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: hard spot.

1058
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: Listen, I'll tell you what. I think Atlanta is going

1059
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 4: to be in a good position. And again I didn't

1060
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 4: like them drafting Pennix after they had paid all that

1061
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 4: money to Cousins, because now they're going to eat all

1062
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 4: this money and Pennix is there. They just shouldn't have

1063
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,280
Speaker 4: signed Cousins if they love Penis going in the process,

1064
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: they should have just said we'rek coming out of draft

1065
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 4: with Penis and made it so yeah, and they would

1066
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 4: have been just finding you'd had fifty million dollars to

1067
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: spend on the rest of the roster. Them losing to

1068
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: Carolina in a game they had to win is craziness.

1069
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: By the way, Bryce Young is legit.

1070
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: He looks great.

1071
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 5: He's back.

1072
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1073
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 4: They they whatever they did worked, Yeah, they figured it out.

1074
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: He's throwing like you know they talked about he's like

1075
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 4: Steph Curry. I mean he basically Steph Curry a touchdown, which, yeah,

1076
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 4: you don't see that very often, although Lamar people said

1077
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 4: they haven't seen it. Lamar did that against us literally

1078
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: on Saturday night.

1079
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: He did it Saturday night.

1080
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, where he throws it and turns it around celebrating.

1081
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: Darius did that last night against the Hornets, by the way, too,

1082
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: shot at three in the corner and stared at the

1083
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: crowds as soon as it left his hand.

1084
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 3: It was pretty cool.

1085
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good.

1086
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. A couple other retentions of Colts retaining Shane Steichen

1087
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: and Chris Ballard retained their leadership, and the Giants retained

1088
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: Brian Dable and Joe shown that one. I can't believe,

1089
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 2: especially after the hard knocks them on that back.

1090
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 5: But he's out of patience.

1091
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: What fan base is more angry today? The Giants are

1092
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: the Jets, because the Jets are interviewing Arthur Smith for

1093
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 3: their head coaching job. The number of people that the

1094
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 3: Jets have I put down here, it is a joke

1095
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 3: what they're doing there.

1096
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 5: Being thorough.

1097
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Come on, neither one has their quarterback. No, I like

1098
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: the Jets. Well, he got neighbors.

1099
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I actually don't mind, Daball. I don't

1100
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 3: know how the GM's allowed to keep his job.

1101
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: I don't either, because Dabele is the one who insisted

1102
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: on neighbors. That was Dabel remember that from Hart?

1103
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 5: Yes, Oh my god. Yeah.

1104
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Speaking of news around the league, there could be a

1105
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: big name in the free agent market. Tyreek Hill post

1106
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: game yesterday in Miami with this as.

1107
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 6: I'm opening the door like I'm out, bro.

1108
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 14: You know so it was great playing here, but you know,

1109
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 14: I at the end of the day, Bro, I got

1110
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 14: to do what's best for you know, for.

1111
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 3: For my career, and you know.

1112
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: What's best because I'm too much of a competitor to be,

1113
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: you know.

1114
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 6: Just out there.

1115
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: Can he Is he just trying to force a trade

1116
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 2: or does is he under contract?

1117
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 5: Let's see what his contract deal is.

1118
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he's Yeah, he is trying to

1119
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 4: get out of there obviously very down season for him,

1120
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: but it wasn't just what he did after the game.

1121
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: During the game, he apparently quit. Yeah, Mike Dale said,

1122
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: I was told he was unavailable. Wasn't a new injury,

1123
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: and he said, look, I didn't have time to go

1124
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 4: over and talk to him, be like, what the heck?

1125
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: Now he did have time to go talk to but

1126
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 4: he basically was like, I don't know.

1127
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 5: So Tyreek Hill, let's see here.

1128
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 4: No they are, No, they didn't. He just I think

1129
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 4: he just signed an extension this year.

1130
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 3: Three year deal. Yeah, yeah, he's got two more years. Yeah.

1131
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 3: They his base salary in twenty five is ten million.

1132
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: In twenty six, it's twenty nine point nine.

1133
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: Good luck.

1134
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 4: So if they traded him, if they traded him post

1135
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: June first, they would eat about twenty six million in

1136
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: dead money, but they would get significant relief. They'd save,

1137
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: you know, fifty three million, sixty three million on the cap,

1138
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: So they could they could do it. I think, I

1139
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 4: don't know.

1140
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: It's hard to say with all these contracts, what's real

1141
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: and what's not. All right, coming up second hour of

1142
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: the program, you're here from coach Stefanski. He's end of

1143
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: the season, presser. We will have that for you. The

1144
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: playoff picture is set in the AFC and the NFC

1145
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: will go over that as well. Second hour coming up

1146
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,439
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1156
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Speaker 2: to join today. Well, the playoffs are set. There was

1157
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: some little bit of injury news before we get into this.

1158
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: Christian Watkins tore his ACL or Watson rails or his

1159
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: a c L in the game for Green Bay over

1160
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: the weekend. And then he also had uh the injury

1161
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: to Jordan Love as well. Good did an injury to

1162
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: him too in that game. Give back, Yeah, I see that.

1163
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: Tough he's been tough with us on property. You got

1164
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: try to get me on something the other day too,

1165
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: and I had it right on Thursday night he had

1166
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: a Sunday on there.

1167
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: Sunday keeps us on our toes though. You gotta be

1168
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 4: he's wanting to make sure.

1169
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: I did that earlier. And the Gmail was like, gives

1170
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 3: I think you have the last name wrong. I'm like,

1171
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: oh yeah, and it's just in my head for whatever reason.

1172
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 4: Today combining Christian Watson with Sammy Watkins, you are and

1173
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: you're getting Christian Watkins.

1174
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't be that guy.

1175
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 3: Have some Sammy Watkins on our air.

1176
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: Don't be that guy.

1177
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 4: Don't be don't be that guy that doesn't take Sammy

1178
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah on CBD to be fun. You know what,

1179
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 4: Thank goodness, if we didn't have this, like if we

1180
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 4: had had that season, like imagine being Carolina year ago

1181
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 4: where you had that season, then you don't even have

1182
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: your there's no pick. Now Bryce Young has figured it

1183
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: out and that's great. And again what five touchdowns he

1184
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: can for you to say, yeah, now we're gonna have it.

1185
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk to we're gonna we have there's so

1186
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: much stuff.

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00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna be able to get Coach Prime on the show,

1188
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: but I bet we will. That'd be awesome. Have you

1189
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 2: ever talked to him?

1190
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've talked to him here. Oh he's been here.

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00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: He's an electric factory in person. He knows the game.

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00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 4: He's so he is a combination of Snoop, mister Dog

1194
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,839
Speaker 4: and IRV if they were like melded into one, because

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00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 4: he's a little smoother, I would say than the Playmaker,

1196
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: but yes, just as energetic. So he's got the smoothness

1197
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: of mister Dog with the energetic and bombastic nature of

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00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: the Playmaker.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and he talks like he's the heavyweight champion of

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00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: the world.

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00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1202
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: Like there's some Muhammad Ali Roy Jones. Yeah I know

1203
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: who I am some Yeah, yeah, there's that too. The

1204
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 2: playoffs are set so in the A see the Chiefs

1205
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 2: get the bye at fifteen and two.

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00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The AFC matchups in the wild card round are Chargers

1208
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: at Texans, Steelers at Ravens, Broncos at Bills. I have

1209
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: a question for you.

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00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: I have many questions.

1211
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: How did Prime get Steelers at Ravens in prime time

1212
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: on Saturday.

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00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 4: My guess is they had that was they must have

1214
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 4: had one of the top choices. I mean, the Texans

1215
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 4: playing in the opening playoff game of the playoffs is

1216
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 4: it's got to be like the eighth time they've done this.

1217
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: My read on this is that the first selection was

1218
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: Packers Eagles and Fox with that, so I think Fox

1219
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: had the first pick.

1220
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,879
Speaker 5: So you think Fox has the first pick?

1221
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 2: I think I think Fox goes one and they go

1222
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: Packers Eagles. I think Prime Prime gets two and they

1223
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: got that slot too Saturday Night.

1224
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

1225
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: I agree, and then four and takes Broncos bills, where

1226
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 4: NBC has got to be in there that. I think

1227
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 4: that's five Commander's bucks behind Broncos bills.

1228
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 3: I agree, Boor They were really trying to sell that

1229
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: last night on the brug oh Man Hard so oh, Mike,

1230
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 3: Fox has the Super Bowl.

1231
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: So does you think that means they also had the

1232
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 2: first pick.

1233
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 3: I don't know how they would have.

1234
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: So CBS is the only one. Am I reading this right?

1235
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: CBS is the only one that has two.

1236
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: They've got two, but they got you know, they got

1237
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: the worst one and then they got they have two

1238
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: of the worst three.

1239
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think it went Packers Eagles one. Yes,

1240
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 4: or Steelers Ravens one. Those are one two, though I

1241
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: think it's pretty clear those are one two. I don't

1242
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: know who necessarily at first pick, but those are the

1243
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 4: top two.

1244
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: I think Packers Eagles is the one. I think the

1245
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: Packers are as big a brand. There's bigger brands there

1246
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: is in the league other than the Cowboys, yep. And

1247
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles are a top five market. Top five.

1248
00:57:59,480 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: That's the one.

1249
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 4: Ravens, then Vikings, Rams, That's what I think, Then Broncos, Bills,

1250
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 4: then Commanders Bucks five for sure, and then Chargers Texans last.

1251
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 2: It is dead last. So just in the AFC, this

1252
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: will be Saturday games Chargers at Texans four thirty on

1253
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: Sunday or on Saturday at CBS. Then Steelers at Ravens

1254
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 2: Saturday night at eight, and then the AFC will be

1255
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: all wrapped up by four o'clock Sunday because Bronco was

1256
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: in Bills Sunday at one on CBS.

1257
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 4: So is that where we were we the Saturday four

1258
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 4: thirty this week last year?

1259
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, we were us Texans. I always thought there

1260
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: was a Saturday one game, but I guess not the

1261
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: old days, maybe because now they're Monday night right.

1262
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 3: So last year, weren't we NBC?

1263
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 4: We were game hm or no? Was that Christmas Eve?

1264
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 4: Because we had on Christmas Eve we had Noah Eagle

1265
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 4: if I'm not mistaken.

1266
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we had Noah Eagle for our playoff game.

1267
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 5: For our playoff game. Okay, I knew.

1268
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: Because remember we had both. We had Iron and Noah

1269
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 3: on our game last year. But Ian was working for

1270
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 3: Westwood One because CBS only had one game because they

1271
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 3: had the.

1272
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, so NBC it was NBC.

1273
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: And then Saturday night was the Peacock Game with Chiefs

1274
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 3: Dolphins and the coldest game known to man Cod.

1275
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: So the Browns actually were on Sunday at four thirty.

1276
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 5: We really yeah, game was on NBC.

1277
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 4: Brown Stick on the Texans Sunday, January thirteenth at four

1278
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 4: thirty pm.

1279
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 3: No, we were on Saturday because we flew out on

1280
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 3: Friday for the playoffs.

1281
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just telling you what I'm reading right now.

1282
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: I know, but Locker Cleanout was on Sunday.

1283
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 5: This is from Cleveland Browns dot Com.

1284
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 4: As Week eighteen played out, the Browns first found out

1285
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 4: that they will face the text in the wildcard around

1286
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 4: the playoffs.

1287
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 5: Then on Sunday eight man looked us up.

1288
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 4: Oh, then it says then on Sunday evening it was announce,

1289
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 4: So you're right, that could be a It makes sense.

1290
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 5: It was satur Saturday, January. What day was thirteen?

1291
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1292
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 5: It was the way that it.

1293
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: Was because we played they were the first we were

1294
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: the first game up in the playoffs.

1295
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I thought too.

1296
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: It was a Saturday.

1297
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have that right, right, Saturday the thirteenth, one

1298
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 4: for five today. Yeah, too bad, it didn't. This one

1299
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

1300
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: In the NFC. It will start at four thirty on

1301
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Sunday with Packers at Eagles. Then the Commis and Bucks

1302
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: will go Sunday at eight o'clock, and then Vikings and

1303
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: Rams your Monday night or on ESPN. So that's the

1304
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: breakdown of those. I don't understand what the Rams were thinking.

1305
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: I don't know why they didn't try. They were a

1306
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: competitive in with Garoppolo.

1307
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: I think I'm on upset watching all three games in

1308
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: the NFC.

1309
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 2: Well do you see the I don't know the numbers, Well,

1310
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: we don't. We know we can't do that. They can't

1311
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: do those.

1312
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 4: Right now, I'm talking about road teams lower your higher

1313
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: higher C. I don't know if their dogs are not.

1314
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 4: I think of the road teams that can realistically win,

1315
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 4: I think it's everybody in the NFC charters, in the

1316
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 4: AFC slight slight, belief in the Broncos, no belief in

1317
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: the Steelers.

1318
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: I have very little. I have no belief in the Broncos.

1319
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 2: Very little belief light slight, Yeah, very little, very little

1320
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.

1321
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 4: I've done in Pittsburgh zero, not even one.

1322
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: It just that's so rivalry Ishue, dude, I'm with you.

1323
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 5: Let me tell you.

1324
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: I'm with you.

1325
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: That's a buzzsaw.

1326
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 5: The Ravens are good.

1327
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're Actually they would be a very solid Super

1328
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: Bowl champion bet because I think they're like the fifth

1329
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 2: pick right now, so you could get fourth or fifth pick.

1330
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: It definitely goes Detroit.

1331
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 4: Then Detroit is the number one.

1332
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: Detroit, Kansas City.

1333
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: Kansas City, Buffalo and Baltimore all can and then Buffalo.

1334
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: Any think Detroit. I mean they keep doing it and

1335
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: I love them. I want Detroit to be in the

1336
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 4: super Bowl. I'd love to see the Lions when the

1337
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 4: Super Bowl to be awesome. I just think at some

1338
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 4: point that the ish injuries that they have suffered are

1339
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to play some really good It's easier

1340
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 4: on that side, right, because they could avoid the Eagles,

1341
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 4: who I think would give them.

1342
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 5: They can avoid the Eagles till the NFC Championship.

1343
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna get the winner of the Rams Vikings game

1344
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: in Detroit.

1345
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 4: Not necessarily, not necessarily, Yeah, they received They will play

1346
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 4: the highest remains remaining seed or lowest. That's why higher

1347
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,479
Speaker 4: lower doesn't work, it does. They'll play the worst remaining seed.

1348
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, better worst looks ever.

1349
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 2: They needed that bye week, yes, big way.

1350
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1351
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: I like the Vikes, commis Bucks. I'm not sure the

1352
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 2: Bucks have beat anybody with a winning record.

1353
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 4: They have not not, is that fact?

1354
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1355
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: And then the Packers with the injury to Watson, and

1356
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 2: then with the Jordan Jordan loves stuff over the weekend

1357
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: is a little bit concerning as well.

1358
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 5: Here we can I think we can confirm.

1359
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 4: Let's say at the time they played them, they hadn't

1360
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 4: beaten anybody with a winning record.

1361
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 5: I think was the thing. Although didn't the Lions start off?

1362
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: Want to know they have wins over Yeah, because they

1363
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: beat Detroit and Philly.

1364
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Speaker 4: Yes, well, they beat the Commanders. Week one, they beat

1365
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: the Lions, Week two, the Eagles zone. In week four

1366
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 4: they were two and one. That noted the Eagles to

1367
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 4: two and two, So maybe it's since then. See they

1368
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 4: lose the Falcons, beat the Saints, lose, Ravens, lose, Falcons, lose, Chiefs, lose, Niners.

1369
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 4: They beat the Giants, the Panthers, the Raiders, they beat

1370
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 4: the Chargers l in l A smoked them, remember that

1371
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 4: Charges definitely, definitely, and then they beat the Panthers, Insants,

1372
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: So they not as many, certainly in the second half

1373
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 4: of the season.

1374
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 5: They beat one team with a winning record. Yeah, but

1375
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 5: they still did.

1376
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 4: I saw that stat they said rather emphatically, I think

1377
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: on the broadcast.

1378
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: Not not erroneous on all accounts. Gonna be a very

1379
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 2: fun postseason. I'm gonna be honest with you. I think

1380
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: the next round is the one where it's really gonna

1381
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: be nuts. Well, I think this is kind of the

1382
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 2: round before the round in the a f C. You've

1383
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 2: got three real powerhouses. If you end up with Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Chiefs,

1384
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: if that's how it goes, and that's in play, right

1385
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 2: because Chargers are the five r Yeah, so it goes Bills, Ravens, Chargers, Chiefs. Yep,

1386
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty and good. Yeah, it's the a f

1387
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: C's a FC is crazy. The division around the AFC

1388
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 2: is going to be nuts.

1389
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 4: The NFC you could get. I think best case scenario

1390
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 4: would be like what.

1391
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: Eagles, Probably Eagles, Commis.

1392
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 4: Vikings, Lions, Vikings because now the Vikings are the Vikings

1393
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 4: are the five, so probably Commedies it would be Commies.

1394
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: Commies would be the six. They would go to Detroit.

1395
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 4: To Detroit, Commis Detroit and Vikings Eagles.

1396
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 5: But the Packers could. Packers are not a pushover, No.

1397
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: Not at all. No, they could get them. And I

1398
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,479
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on with Jalen Hurts either because

1399
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: he doesn't playing.

1400
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 4: If the Packers win, the Packers automatically go to Detroit, yes,

1401
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 4: which means you could have I mean, in theory, if

1402
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 4: the Packers won and the Bucks win, you could have

1403
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 4: the Bucks at home in the second round against the

1404
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 4: winner of Vikings Rams.

1405
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: So stupid that they do this by the seed versus

1406
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: the record at this point, like what are we doing?

1407
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 5: The division winners get the seeds.

1408
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: I understand, but like it's pretty balanced schedule, Like, fine,

1409
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 2: do the Seeds that way in the first round, but

1410
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: then once it gets tough the first round, throw the

1411
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: Seeds out.

1412
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 5: And go record, Go record.

1413
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's ridiculous to award a media

1414
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: mediocre team.

1415
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 5: But that's how it could be though.

1416
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 4: If the Packers win and the Bucks, if the Packers

1417
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 4: and Bucks both win, if both of the Bays win,

1418
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: the Bucks will host the winner of Vikings Rams in

1419
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 4: the second round.

1420
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: Right, the Vikings are fourteen and three. Yeah, I mean

1421
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: that's tough, pretty crazy, all right, you'll hear Kevin Stefanski's

1422
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Speaker 15: Okay, Obviously, you know, tough day, the finality of the

1435
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 15: season coming to an end as always hard. You know,

1436
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 15: there's frustration from myself, I'm sure our fans I shared

1437
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 15: that frustration. Extremely disappointed in where this season went and

1438
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 15: that we're not playing football anymore. That's tough, so tough

1439
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 15: day all around. But we're gonna get to fixing this

1440
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 15: and that's that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna get

1441
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 15: back to work. So we're gonna meet with the players today,

1442
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 15: meet with the coaches, and and obviously we'll have time

1443
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 15: to look at all this. But extremely frustrate, extremely disappointed,

1444
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 15: extremely appreciative, appreciative of our players. Gave me and gave

1445
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 15: us everything they had, fought like crazy. The results were

1446
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 15: not what we wanted, that's obvious, but I'm certainly grateful

1447
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 15: to them for how hard they played, kept swinging. I

1448
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 15: know you guys saw the news on Ken Dorsey and

1449
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 15: Andy Dickerson. I think the world of those two guys

1450
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 15: as people, as coaches, But I'm going to go in

1451
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 15: a different direction, and uh, and I'm appreciative of their

1452
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 15: hard work as well.

1453
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 6: But with that, I'll take any questions.

1454
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 7: And Andy Ken, can you just reflect on the challenges

1455
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 7: of this season you guys try to maybe some some

1456
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 7: different things.

1457
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think there's a lot that we need to

1458
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 15: look into, Tom and and get fixed.

1459
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1460
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 6: This is never going to be about one person. Let

1461
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 6: me make that clear.

1462
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 15: Or in this case, you know about our one coach

1463
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 15: or another coach, like this is something that we all own.

1464
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 6: We all shared that, Uh, but have to look at

1465
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 6: all of.

1466
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 5: It a decision.

1467
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 6: What went into the decision.

1468
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 15: To move on most Yeah, just bottom line, want to

1469
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 15: go in a different direction. We need to improve as

1470
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 15: as everybody knows on the offensive side of the ball,

1471
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 15: and that's what we plan to do. Do you feel

1472
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 15: like you guys got away from maybe what you did

1473
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 15: best and what this team has killed best to do

1474
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 15: this season? We certainly didn't play well enough, Dan, So

1475
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 15: I think it's u something that we need to look at,

1476
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 15: and we need to look at doing those things as

1477
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 15: a team, certainly doing those things and as an offense

1478
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 15: that give you a chance to win.

1479
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 6: If you or do you.

1480
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,919
Speaker 2: Have regrets about giving up to play calling.

1481
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, we are where we are.

1482
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 15: There's there's decisions that you make every week, every season,

1483
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 15: seemingly every quarter of a game, and then you learn

1484
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 15: from those decisions and you're just always what I'm always

1485
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 15: trying to do, as you guys know, is just trying

1486
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 15: to do what's best for the team.

1487
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 8: I think you have to decide if you guys are

1488
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 8: more of a play action from play type.

1489
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 10: Of team, or if you want to be the spread

1490
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 10: harpo team that Deshaun was going to be well suited for,

1491
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 10: or can you find a marriage between the two, or

1492
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 10: how do you approach that?

1493
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think it goes back to we need to

1494
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 15: play sound offensive football, mary kay. And that really is

1495
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 15: in every scheme, doesn't matter what whether you're dropping back

1496
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 15: to pass, handing it off. We have to be more

1497
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 15: sound than we were. And obviously it also goes into

1498
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 15: taking care of the football, which we we have not

1499
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 15: done a good enough job of. I know you guys

1500
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 15: are sick of me talking about it, but it's the

1501
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 15: number one thing when you're talking about winning and losing,

1502
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 15: and we have to do a better job there.

1503
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: It's a you know, when you.

1504
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 6: Do finally hire it off with the corner. Do you

1505
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 6: intend or kind of take back those play.

1506
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 4: Call the newies.

1507
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,879
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm not even there, Daniel, on that type of decision.

1508
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 15: It's a I want to go through the process of

1509
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 15: talking to coordinator candidates first.

1510
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 13: Are there other potential changes that you are looking at

1511
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 13: or is that something that could happen whenever you do

1512
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 13: make a decision.

1513
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 15: And hire a new Yeah, I don't anticipate any major changes.

1514
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,719
Speaker 1: You launch your core here, sir, right away.

1515
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 10: It's in the building that you'll talk to you about.

1516
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 6: There are guys that I'll talk to in the building.

1517
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 3: Yes, did you.

1518
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:50,000
Speaker 11: Feel like slipping away that this philosophy wasn't working?

1519
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 15: We just, you know, I think if you look back, Jeff,

1520
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 15: we certainly we didn't win enough. We didn't play well

1521
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 15: enough as a team to win instance. We have to

1522
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 15: find ways to play better on offense to give ourselves

1523
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 15: a chance to win as a team.

1524
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 11: I mean, fourteen, it feels a long way away from

1525
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 11: Do you think this team can get back to where

1526
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 11: it wants to be in the playoffs next season?

1527
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 6: I do. I do.

1528
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 15: I know the core guys we have on this team,

1529
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 15: I know the coaches we have on this team, Obviously

1530
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 15: there's change every season. We all understand that that's the NFL.

1531
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 15: But I feel very confident in the group we have.

1532
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 10: I specifically talked about hoping that you go back to

1533
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 10: some version of that wide zone run scheme that is

1534
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 10: so affected your first few years here. I mean, do

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01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 10: you envision that as possibility?

1536
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 6: Are Yeah?

1537
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 15: Not to get too far into specifics actually, other than

1538
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 15: to say we will get back to a sound system

1539
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 15: that gives our team a chance. And again, I want

1540
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 15: to make it clear, this is not about one person

1541
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 15: or one particular part of the scheme.

1542
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 6: This is about all of us owning it and fixing it.

1543
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 8: Off about this group and feeling good about them, and

1544
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 8: that it's hard to square that with the results, and

1545
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 8: believing that keeping things mostly status quo is going to

1546
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 8: result in better results. So just from your standpoint, why

1547
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 8: is your belief so strong in that?

1548
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think it goes back to Darryl.

1549
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 15: There's nobody more disappointed with how this season went than me,

1550
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 15: I promise you, And there's nobody more committed to fixing

1551
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 15: it than me. I know the people we have. I

1552
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 15: know that there will be changes like there are every

1553
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 15: single season. I get that part but I trust in

1554
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 15: the group and I trust it we will get it

1555
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 15: done well.

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01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 14: This will be a third offensive coordinator in three years.

1557
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 14: Is there a specific quality or qualities that this new

1558
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 14: offensive coordinator must have that you haven't had before?

1559
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 6: Now?

1560
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 15: I wouldn't say there'd be anything specific quality. I'm just

1561
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 15: looking for We are looking for somebody to come in

1562
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 15: and help us sharing a vision where we can go

1563
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 15: play sound, explosive offensive football.

1564
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 6: I feel confident that we'll be able to do that.

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 14: Ownership has talked for years about the alignment that you

1566
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 14: and Andrew have the desire for.

1567
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,839
Speaker 6: That and how it's been, you know, a big plus

1568
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 6: of this regime.

1569
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 2: How much responsibility do you feel to make sure that

1570
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: that stays in a good place coming off a rough season,

1571
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: because obviously throughout pro sports, you.

1572
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,440
Speaker 14: Know, when expectations are met, that's when things can go sideways.

1573
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 6: So my commitment to alignment responsibily.

1574
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,799
Speaker 8: Do you feel in making sure that you and Andrews

1575
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 8: stay aligned throughout?

1576
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 6: Oh? Yeah, we bounce back.

1577
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 15: We feel very responsible and we are tied at the

1578
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 15: hip and we will do everything in our power together.

1579
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 15: Andrew works really, really hard at this. I'm sure you

1580
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 15: guys will talk to Andrew'll let him speak for himself,

1581
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 15: but we're frustrated and we will get it fixed.

1582
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 14: And is it to you to have an offensive coordinator

1583
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 14: that maybe you've worked with before, or that you feel

1584
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 14: super comfortable with, or that you know that you completely can.

1585
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 4: Be on the same page.

1586
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 6: I think it's a good question, Mary Kay. I think

1587
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 6: it remains to be seen.

1588
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 15: We need to see what's what this looks like and

1589
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 15: looking forward to talking to some people. I'm sure we'll

1590
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 15: talk to people that I don't have a prior relationship too.

1591
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 15: And I've hired plenty of guys over the years that

1592
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 15: you don't have a relationship with and you and it

1593
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 15: works really well, so that's not a prerequisite.

1594
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 6: You're able to say provide any more information.

1595
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 15: On Jokay, Yeah, nothing more to add other than to

1596
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 15: say he's getting all the information that he can get

1597
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 15: and we'll update you.

1598
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 6: Guys want appropriate play next year, though, I'm hopeful.

1599
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 11: I know with all the talk about the offense changes

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 11: or whatever, do you feel like there has to be

1601
01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 11: a stronger commitment to the run game, especially from the

1602
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 11: start of the season next year.

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 6: We have to play better on offense. In a bunch

1604
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 6: of different areas.

1605
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 15: I don't think it's as simple as just saying one,

1606
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 15: you know, running effectively, that's a that is a component

1607
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 15: of it. But we need to we need to do

1608
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 15: a better job of setting our team up for success.

1609
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 15: I think too often this season our defense had to

1610
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 15: take the field and some really really tough spots after

1611
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 15: a turnover. If you just look at the number of

1612
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 15: drives that our defense face this year, it's it's not

1613
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 15: a formula for winning.

1614
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 11: That was a philosophical change from twenty twenty three to

1615
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 11: twenty twenty four, that you're going to come out throwing

1616
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 11: much more than you did the previous year.

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01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 15: I wouldn't say that was the a core tenant of

1618
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 15: what we were planning on doing. Obviously we got behind

1619
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,879
Speaker 15: in too many games, but we need to We definitely

1620
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 15: need to run the ball more effectively.

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 10: Hey, Mike Rabile, taking any of your.

1622
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 6: Assistants with him, you'd have to ask first it was the.

1623
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 10: Left tackle spot, what did you see out of Dlawn

1624
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 10: before he got hurt? And just what are your thoughts

1625
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 10: on jets possible?

1626
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,480
Speaker 15: Yeah, I think we'll see on all those guys. Specifically

1627
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 15: to Dewan, I thought, you know when he got hurt.

1628
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 15: I thought he was starting to settle in at that position.

1629
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 15: So he needs to get healthy. That's the most important

1630
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 15: thing for him right now, and then we'll see where

1631
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 15: it goes from there.

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 13: Certa with I mean that that two seasons in a

1633
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 13: row ending with obviously in some ways that the last

1634
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 13: one especially was a freak kind of freak injury.

1635
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:29,440
Speaker 4: But at that size, you know lower you know lower.

1636
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 12: Leg type injuries.

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01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 15: Beans certainly want him to be healthy, and certainly that's

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01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 15: a main point of emphasis for him. Like you mentioned,

1639
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 15: sometimes playing that position, you can get unlucky and a

1640
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 15: guy can roll up on the back of you on

1641
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 15: your legs. But he's going to focus on getting healthy,

1642
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 15: getting stronger, and and really see where it goes from there. Hey,

1643
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 15: appreciate you. Appreciate you guys being professional all season long.

1644
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 15: And uh, I'll stay out of your hair for a

1645
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 15: little bit. All right, thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: great clips, great clip of the game, great clips. It's

1662
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: going to be great. Here is Jerry Judy becoming the

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01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: all time single season receptions leaders.

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Speaker 11: Happy to throw throws right, it is caught, It is

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 11: Judy and that is a new Browns single season record.

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Speaker 3: Give him ninety.

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Speaker 5: Congrats to Jerry Judy.

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01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 4: Joel Botonio class first guy over there to congratulate him

1669
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: on that milestone.

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Speaker 5: Ninety catches.

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 4: Now for Jerry Judy, He's up to over twelve hundred

1672
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 4: and twenty nine yards on the season.

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01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 5: They're in the eighteen yard card line.

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 4: That's great, awesome for him. Great glad they were able

1675
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 4: to get that done. It was looking for a while

1676
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 4: like it first even got a target yet right, and

1677
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 4: then he had unfortunately had a drop. But great for

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy. It's also kind of wild that our record

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 4: had been set. If I two tight ends, Ozzie knew

1680
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 4: him twice and Kellen Winslow Junior was the other one

1681
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 4: who had reached eighty nine catches in a season, and

1682
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 4: he think about how many teams have guys that have

1683
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,600
Speaker 4: one hundred catches every year. Oh, we've never done right,

1684
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 4: So ninety Awesome for Jerry Judy though, and certainly you

1685
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 4: see what a great addition he was. I think he needs,

1686
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully Cedar Tillman. That was just another wild

1687
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: thing that he disappeared. But he needs a running buddy.

1688
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 4: He needs like a I think if you got a

1689
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 4: bigger receiver opposite him, you'd really have something special. Because

1690
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 4: his ability to line up inside, line up outside, he

1691
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 4: can get open. He's good after the catch, he showed

1692
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 4: you all things that he's a guy. I went back

1693
01:19:54,800 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 4: to this. He had some monster numbers with Jamis. Obviously Yeah,

1694
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 4: But to me, it's just about opportunity. His yards per

1695
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 4: target was right there with guys that you consider to

1696
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 4: be number one receivers in the NFL. Even when he

1697
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 4: was in Denvery, just never had the opportunities. Well, this

1698
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 4: year he gets the opportunities, has a career year, and

1699
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: certainly the Browns have to feel very good about where

1700
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 4: he is and what they signed him for prior to

1701
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 4: the production he.

1702
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: Is from a production standpoint, when given the opportunity, what

1703
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 2: he was drafted to be like, it's pretty straightforward. Yeah,

1704
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: that's what everybody thought he would be. When he was drafted.

1705
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: He was viewed in a similar light as Ceedee Lamb

1706
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,600
Speaker 2: and Justin Jefferson and all those guys. I mean, he

1707
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: was in that kind of first round no brainer, going

1708
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 2: to be a stud, elite route runner. And now he

1709
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: got the opportunity and now you see it. So that

1710
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 2: was it. Thank goodness you had that stretch of Jamis too,

1711
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 2: because he went nuts in that Jamis stretch.

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 4: I think his last three game weeks five, six, and seven,

1713
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 4: and they get exactly one catch in each of those

1714
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 4: and you'd watch the tape and you'd say, oh man,

1715
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,759
Speaker 4: he was wide open.

1716
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 5: Oh man, he's wide open. Oh man, he's wide open.

1717
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 4: You know, Jamis did a good job of getting the

1718
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 4: ball to him and kind of breathing some life. And

1719
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 4: that's why it's so important that going forward the Browns

1720
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 4: can find consistently good quarterback play.

1721
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 5: I mean, that's it. That's the whole It's not hard, that's.

1722
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 4: The whole thing. Right now, You've got cam Wardship or

1723
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 4: Sanders in the draft. Perhaps Ali will be added to

1724
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 4: the draft. You have got to figure out. I think

1725
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 4: you can't force it. But at the same time, if

1726
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 4: you're not going to take a quarterback, you have to

1727
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 4: be pretty darn shirt why you're not taking a quarterback.

1728
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: If you don't take one at two, you better be

1729
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: dang sure that the guy who is available and one

1730
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: of the two that are the consensus first and two

1731
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 2: first and seconds will be you better be dang sure

1732
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 2: they're not good. That's the job.

1733
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's a tough one because the best

1734
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 4: way to turn this thing around is obviously to hit

1735
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: on a draft pick quarterback. And I'm not opposed to

1736
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 4: taking a quarterback in the first round and then taking

1737
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 4: a guy with your extra third round pick, taking a

1738
01:21:59,080 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 4: guy in the fourth round.

1739
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 5: What you know the then Redskins now.

1740
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 4: Commanders did back with RG three and Kirk Cousins in

1741
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 4: that draft.

1742
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 2: It wasn't one and third. But look what the forty

1743
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: nine ers did with Lance and Party Party. Just take

1744
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 2: that right, just take thee get one. That was the

1745
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: old It's funny, that was Oh my gosh, Elliott's dad.

1746
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: That was his whole thing with the Packers. Let's always

1747
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 2: draft a quarterback every year, draft one. And look how

1748
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: that worked for them. I mean they drafted Mark Burnell there.

1749
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: They were able to trade guys, get compensation back, develop them,

1750
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: trade them like. There's there's some sense to be made

1751
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: in that, in the value of the pick. So yeah,

1752
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Keep keep swinging at it till you

1753
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: get it.

1754
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 3: So the great clips, great clip of the game was fantastic,

1755
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: and it led right into an interception by a five

1756
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 3: hundred pound human that somehow is listed as three seventy

1757
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 3: five in the media. Guy that was.

1758
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 5: That was tough.

1759
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 3: Now, the fact that he is listed the way he's

1760
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 3: listed lies.

1761
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a lies. He's a big, big, big dude.

1762
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 4: It's a big fellow. It'd have been fun to see

1763
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 4: him try to like run that back, and.

1764
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 3: He's, I don't think.

1765
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: We know our home and away schedule for next season.

1766
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 2: Your home games will be the Bengals, the Bills, the Dolphins,

1767
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: the Packers, the Ravens, the Steelers, the Titans, the Vikings

1768
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: and the forty nine Ers. So nine home games, always

1769
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: a potential for a European game in there, you never know.

1770
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:37,799
Speaker 2: And on the road games Bears, Bengals, Jets, Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Ravens,

1771
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: and Steelers. So road games true road games next year

1772
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: known road games Bears, Jets, Detroit, New England, Vegas back

1773
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 2: to Vegas.

1774
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:48,639
Speaker 5: Back to Vegas.

1775
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 4: Pretty tame in terms of duration of travel, really comfortable, comfortable,

1776
01:23:55,360 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 4: comfortable travel away schedule because you've got, you know, the

1777
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 4: NFC North, where the Bears and Lions are close. You

1778
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 4: got the Bengals, Jets, Lions. New York's not that bad.

1779
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 4: The only one where you're really traveling at all is

1780
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 4: the Raiders. Even the Patriots aren't that bad. Raiders is

1781
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 4: really your only real road trip. It'll be interesting to

1782
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 4: see given that we have not had success, and perhaps

1783
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 4: it's totally unrelated, but we have not had success.

1784
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 5: Going out two days before those West coasters.

1785
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: No, it's true, we have done that. If we'll do that,

1786
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: how many times have we won? We're over on the.

1787
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 4: Two day road trip try we did it for oh.

1788
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: For three, we did it, ram It or no Chargers.

1789
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,560
Speaker 5: This year we did it Denver, Denver.

1790
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 4: And Vegas seatt on the preseason Vegas, Denver and Rams.

1791
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 4: Last year we were there for both of those, well

1792
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 4: in advance.

1793
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:50,839
Speaker 3: No, Denver wasn't.

1794
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 5: Because we went for a week down.

1795
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,879
Speaker 2: To La Oh yeah, that was that whole extended.

1796
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to think, did we do that

1797
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 4: for the.

1798
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 2: The Chargers and twenty one? You guys did it for

1799
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers once two days out.

1800
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 5: If we did, it would have been in the twenty one.

1801
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 3: No, because remember we that was still COVID. Oh yeah,

1802
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 3: we had to fly on a separate plane than you guys,

1803
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 3: and we had to take an uber the tale that dropped. Yeah,

1804
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 3: the state.

1805
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 4: We probably definitely did not go in two days early.

1806
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: No, not into Los Angeles post COVID. No, probably not,

1807
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: Probably not going to do that. But anyway, those those

1808
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: are your dates, some really really juicy home ones when

1809
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: you talk about phil Packers. Obviously, the divisional games but

1810
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: also forty nine ers in the mix Vikings in the

1811
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:45,839
Speaker 2: mix on that as well. Dolphins return. It's always interesting

1812
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 2: when you get the return return. So Dolphins come back

1813
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 2: here after playing here this year, and then we go

1814
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: back to Vegas and play out in Vegas after playing there.

1815
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 5: Those are the matches.

1816
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 4: The Dolphins were a match like the other division match. Yeah,

1817
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 4: and the Raiders were the matchlast year, And obviously one

1818
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 4: of those two would stay a matching one, and it

1819
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 4: was the Rapers on Vegas.

1820
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 5: Hopefully when we go it is not as hot as it.

1821
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: Was last I know, we'll do the full one thought

1822
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: and all of that yesterday, but I had a lot

1823
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 2: of youth basketball, so I didn't and this was a

1824
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: good weekend to miss quite honestly, by the way. But

1825
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:18,760
Speaker 2: like I jumped in on some of this stuff and

1826
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: was listening to it in the car to and from,

1827
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 2: and I had a little bit of stretch from I

1828
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 2: guess around two to four where I had two to

1829
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: three where I was able to watch Red Zone and

1830
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 2: watch some of the stuff that was happening. Just a

1831
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 2: wild a bunch of wild choices.

1832
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, made in the league, very unique, Yeah, but.

1833
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 2: Did not understand the thinking on a lot of the

1834
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:38,799
Speaker 2: things that happened.

1835
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 4: But I will say that somehow you and I navigated.

1836
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,480
Speaker 4: I thought one of the tougher weeks.

1837
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 2: We do okay. Yeah, I was going to throw it

1838
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 2: out unless we lost.

1839
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 5: No, we won? Did we do okay?

1840
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 4: I think I was ten and six, we'll go, we'll

1841
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 4: verify it. But that was ten and six and you

1842
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 4: were nine and seven.

1843
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 2: I don't know how. I literally said in the middle

1844
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: of that, I have no idea. There are several I said,

1845
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea what we're doing here. It was

1846
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: nuts because you just don't know. And this is the

1847
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 2: thing I've heard a lot of people talk about this

1848
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: in regard to like tanking or whatever. You have to

1849
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,560
Speaker 2: have you have to be so aligned. There was a

1850
01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: question today in the press conference in New England where

1851
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,440
Speaker 2: they asked if one of the reporters covering the Patriots

1852
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out did Bob Kraft have any

1853
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: say in what happened in the final game, And the

1854
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 2: report was that Craft didn't weigh in on it at all,

1855
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: because they're thinking, what were you thinking? We could have

1856
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: picked number one? We have Drake may could have traded

1857
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 2: out of one pick.

1858
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 4: Pick pick pick coaches on the way out, Yeah, win

1859
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 4: those games.

1860
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 5: Lovey Smith, Lovey Smith.

1861
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Mayo and a lot of people say, well Mayo didn't

1862
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 2: know he's going. Well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't.

1863
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Maybe he didn't know he's going. The thing that it's

1864
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: a tough league to do that in.

1865
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: What struck me more than anything was Tennessee did it right?

1866
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 4: Tennessee clearly was oh yeah, they were not. I don't

1867
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 4: think they were interested in winning that game, which was fine.

1868
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 4: The one that got both of us was Washington Dallas,

1869
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 4: where you would think Washington wanted to win the game,

1870
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: would but they did not. Now they made I think

1871
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 4: they did go on to win the game, didn't they.

1872
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:08,879
Speaker 2: They did, but they were not in the scores.

1873
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,799
Speaker 4: Well, they took and they took Daniels out at halftime.

1874
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 4: They're just like, we're good, We're good. The weird thing is,

1875
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 4: though they kept pulling, McLaurin was playing till everybody else

1876
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,839
Speaker 4: played to the very end except Daniels.

1877
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 2: That's the other thing that happens though, Like McLaurin broke

1878
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: the franchise record for touchdowns, which was previously by Ricky Sanders.

1879
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: That's how long ago that was. So I think that's

1880
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 2: the thing that happens in that week eighteen too. You

1881
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: got a bunch of guys going for bonuses, a bunch

1882
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,440
Speaker 2: of guys going for franchise records, team records, all that stuff.

1883
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 4: About Cooper Rush just needed to play this game for

1884
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty grand.

1885
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: That's it.

1886
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 5: You need to play.

1887
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 2: Do you see what Gino did?

1888
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 4: Gino made six million dollars yesterday, six million bucks. So

1889
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 4: they set the franchise record for passing yards. Yeah, they

1890
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 4: go ten and seven yep. And what was the third

1891
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 4: thing he had to hit?

1892
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Was it a touchdowns?

1893
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 3: Number?

1894
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,879
Speaker 5: Touchdowns? So and they fire the offensive coordinator.

1895
01:28:58,320 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1896
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: By the way, he's going to be hired by Alabama

1897
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 2: tomorrow to go run that offense because he was the

1898
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: OC at Washington last year. It was it was a

1899
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 2: weird days, a weird day in the league, to say

1900
01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:11,320
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Speaker 2: on Friday, and an NFL slate Saturday. Sunday Monday are

1914
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Speaker 2: a d We're supposed to have a home high school

1915
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 2: basketball game on Friday that was like a youth night

1916
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,840
Speaker 2: for Bootsies team, and he said it out thing like

1917
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 2: we're going to play this game on Saturday.

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01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 3: I think O and Amherst did the same thing.

1919
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: Smart smart smart.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, by the way, about Bootsies Runner and Lane epic,

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Speaker 4: it's pretty great.

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01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: So uh he was very appreciative, as I told you

1924
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 2: privately about your retweeting of that.

1925
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 3: So I go.

1926
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 2: So that was on Saturday when that happened. Then Sunday

1927
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 2: we show up for the games and the guy who

1928
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 2: runs the league is like, he's like he didn't know

1929
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 2: that he didn't know anything, like the guy who posted

1930
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 2: had no idea about any of it. And he goes, H,

1931
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: was that your son? And I said, I go yeah,

1932
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 2: and he goes, well, that's the most likes we've ever

1933
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 2: had on a clip we've posted. I said, his uncle

1934
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 2: is a man of great influence, so that could be

1935
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Speaker 2: its are you?

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01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 5: Well?

1937
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't retweet it.

1938
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 5: We have good reach.

1939
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 6: I didn't retweet it.

1940
01:30:58,439 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 5: Oh I did I know you?

1941
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 4: Did? You see?

1942
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 5: It's an exclamation?

1943
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 4: That was it.

1944
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 2: He's very excited. Uh, all right. We're back tomorrow with

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Speaker 2: more of the Hoff's going to join the program. Next

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