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Speaker 1: This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight fire?

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Speaker 2: Fam, it's me Jason McIntyre. Straight oh year for Monday,

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Speaker 2: June the ninth, Oh boy, oh my goodness, NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: That's me snoring or pretending to snore. Just a terrible

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Speaker 2: game two, I mean seventeen to two were running the

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Speaker 2: second quarter and it was like, okay, I'm shutting it off.

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Speaker 2: There was no comeback from the Pacers in this one.

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Speaker 2: You knew okay, so he had it. So we'll spend

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds on that topic, I will say. And it's nonsports.

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Speaker 2: But obviously there was a lot of stuff going on

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Speaker 2: politically in Los Angeles this weekend, and I'm sure Rob

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Speaker 2: G's like me, where family members who don't live in

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Speaker 2: Los Angeles are close to it are texting, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I saw Las headlining the d LA in flames riots.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay? Are they sending the National Guard? What's going?

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Speaker 2: You know? You get this when fires happen and we're like, no,

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Speaker 2: we can see the smoke. It's not you know, the

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Speaker 2: ten miles away. And then the same thing with this,

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Speaker 2: like I start getting text is everything good? You good?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, what do you mean? And then you

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Speaker 2: have to go online to see this stuff? But it

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Speaker 2: is this is so weird. And this one of the

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Speaker 2: funniest memes I saw was somebody put this online. Was

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Speaker 2: h hey, a global pandemic killed I don't know the

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Speaker 2: exact number, sorry, killed eight million people? How did you survive?

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Speaker 2: You know, similar to breadlines and the depression and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then the meme cuts to people doing TikTok dances

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Speaker 2: to like randw Lamborghini gets a cup car with the

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Speaker 2: know that. I hate to say it, this sounds bad.

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Speaker 2: There was some stuff happening in La. I didn't see

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Speaker 2: any I didn't hear in it. I didn't feel it.

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Speaker 2: You know, my daughter played in her first beach volleyball tournament.

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Speaker 2: We went to the sushi pop up for dinner and

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Speaker 2: we listen, we're not even like rich. Trust me, guys,

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Speaker 2: I know jay ow TV, you're written, we're not. We

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Speaker 2: let you guys know. But like, it's just such a

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Speaker 2: weird disconnect. Between the news and then the reality, and

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Speaker 2: then I had to I actually had to look as

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Speaker 2: to where this was happening, and it was only like

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Speaker 2: thirteen miles from me, I think, closer to me than Rob,

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Speaker 2: but like not a whiff. I don't think I heard

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Speaker 2: any sirens that this is oh gosh, this is bad.

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Speaker 2: This is about how sketchy it got Rob. So we sleep.

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Speaker 2: We don't have air conditioning, so we sleep at our

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Speaker 2: windows open second floor obviously now in the first floor,

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Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, crows seemed to come at like

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a problem for you, Rob,

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Speaker 2: but it is really a thing annoying, and as luck

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Speaker 2: So of course, almost like clockwork, Sunday morning, five am.

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Speaker 2: So I had the shotgun ready, and again it just

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Speaker 2: the you know, the blind or whatever, and I pumped

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Speaker 2: mere fact that I showed some presents kind of scared

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Speaker 3: I am doing just fine. I actually know a handful

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Speaker 3: Basically we see on the ground just people marching and walking,

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Speaker 3: That is the way the media works. We're in the media,

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Speaker 3: it to sports. We might get to this later in

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Speaker 3: the podcast. Game one of the NBA Finals. The ratings

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Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's tough that any situation comes

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Speaker 3: you don't have to believe everything you see on Twitter. Folks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean unless some of this stuff about federal

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Speaker 2: We're not. Obviously, we're gonna talk about, like you said,

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Speaker 2: the Game one of the NBA Finals. So you know,

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Speaker 2: billionaire squabble up. They also love it when Lebron goes

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Speaker 2: the belief that it's less about that currently and it's

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Speaker 2: last week and it pissed people off, like I'm not

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Speaker 2: interested in the finals. Give me superstars or give me death. Well,

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Speaker 2: as Rob said, Game one of the finals, absolute thriller.

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Speaker 2: This was the most recent game winning shot for Halliburtons

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Speaker 2: it must be about the stars. And again Rob, I'm

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Speaker 2: we're playing in this pro am league. Yes, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what I got myself into. I'm not gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: but you know, one of the guys sends me this SGA.

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Speaker 2: He had thirty four eight and four I'm sorry, thirty

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Speaker 2: great strip of Halliburton, who was going up. This is

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Speaker 2: historic stuff. What a run. And I responded with the

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Speaker 2: know the oh gosh, this is bad. What's the ken

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Speaker 2: he cooked the Pacers whooped the damn do like Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: you know I watched the first quarter it's competitive, pacers

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Speaker 2: They could not lose it under the circumstances, and they

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Speaker 2: And sadly, this is the one and it doesn't bode

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Speaker 2: the Pacers have not had a twenty point score. Yes,

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Speaker 2: having a bench matters, Yes, having depth matters, But what

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Speaker 2: A bucket getter? And I just you know, I know

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Speaker 2: you'll say, well, Jason, come on, Haliburn's a star. You

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Speaker 2: crowned him after game one. Oh he's clutch. But a

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Speaker 2: lot of that was the thunder giving the game away.

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Speaker 2: They blew a huge lead the coach screwed up with

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Speaker 2: the lineups and the Pacers made it rain from three.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Obi Toppins is going to bang another

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I don't know. Siakam, they bottled him up.

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Speaker 2: will the finals? So anything's possible, But he's not your

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Speaker 2: have that. Now there's Thunder do with SGA, but he

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Speaker 2: needed help. Caruso had twenty. J Dubb didn't shoot it

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Speaker 2: Chet had fifteen. Aaron Wiggins was your hero off the

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Speaker 2: who's going to deliver. But SGA, Yeah, he's super hot

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Speaker 2: and riding a great streak. I don't know, Rob, do you?

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Speaker 2: What do you say about SGA? At this point?

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Speaker 3: SGA is in the midst of one of the single

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Speaker 3: greatest individual seasons that we've seen by a guard ever. Right, okay,

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Speaker 3: it do the first two games he scored seventy two

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Speaker 3: points in the NBA Finals. That's the most by any

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Speaker 3: So that's not exactly the same as what SGA is doing. SGA,

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Speaker 3: you know, efficiently, is getting you thirty plus points a

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Speaker 3: night every single game, right, I believe? Now he has

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Speaker 3: scored at least thirty points with five assists eleven times

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Speaker 3: already in these playoffs. That's tied with Lebron and MJ

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Speaker 3: for the most in any playoff run in NBA history,

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Speaker 3: he has vaulted himself. And I think I was really

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Speaker 3: late to the party, and I'll fully disclolier, I admit it.

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Speaker 3: I thought coming into the season, when what was it

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Speaker 2: Hold on, Rob, would you say it's similar to NFL

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Speaker 2: What's distinctive about his game the mid range? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: you if you've ever seen the pink panther, I know

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Speaker 3: There are people saying that because you know the analytics

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Speaker 3: But you see the influence of Kobe, you see the

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Speaker 3: But in a world where in today's NBA everybody wants

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Speaker 2: because James Harden was so unstoppable with that full through

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Speaker 3: It's hard to make any kind of argument against James

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Speaker 3: James was doing thirty five and twelve. That's like a

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Speaker 3: thirty less points a game when you're when you're pounding

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Speaker 2: What if I told you this? And I did not

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Speaker 2: So Rob, this is not about SGA. He had thirty

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Speaker 2: he scored in the entire Minnesota series. Oh, would you

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Speaker 2: He had well, Denver, he played more, but he had

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Speaker 2: You're just not gonna lose games when guys off your

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Speaker 2: I'm starting to sound like jay'sj You just don't like SGA, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean a little bit. But what I think is I

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Speaker 3: think both of your statements can be true. What you

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Speaker 3: said right now is, of course, anytime you get the

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Speaker 3: role players to contribute like that, it's hard to beat anybody,

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Speaker 3: much less a good team.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: But you open it up on this podcast on this

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Speaker 3: episode talking about maybe the problem with Indiana is they don't.

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Speaker 2: Have a superstar.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, as much as we like Tyre's Haliburn,

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Speaker 3: and we love Tyre's Haliburn, but he's not what we

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Speaker 3: were considered to be your superstar. If you go back

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Speaker 3: just in the last fifteen years, as much as you

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Speaker 3: know the current trend nowadays, that's say, well, OKC is

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Speaker 3: the blueprint because the depth Indiana is the blueprint right

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Speaker 3: because of the depth, like they go seven, eight, nine

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Speaker 3: guys who were all really good. Just look back at

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Speaker 3: the recent champions all right, Boston had Tatum, Denver had

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Speaker 3: the Joker Warriors had Steph Bucks had Giannis, Lakers had

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Speaker 3: Lebron Raptors had Kawhi Warriors had Steph and KD Calves

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Speaker 3: had Lebron Warriors have Steph? The Spurs in uh, was

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Speaker 3: it twenty thirteen? It's probably twenty fourth, probably the outlier

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Speaker 3: because they was at the Kawi was the Kawhi MVP year.

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Speaker 2: But then before that.

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Speaker 3: It's Lebron, Lebron, Dirk Kobe, Kobe.

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Speaker 2: The best person.

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Speaker 3: The best players usually win, right, So are you have

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Speaker 3: a guard superstar? So of course you would love to

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Speaker 3: have your your role players chip in and play big

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Speaker 3: roles like worcused on game two from okay, see game

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Speaker 3: one in Indiana. But what you need on the night

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Speaker 3: tonight consistent because you can't count those guys to be

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Speaker 3: that good every night. If SGA or whoever your superstar

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Speaker 3: is is a consistent leading the pack in somewhere in

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Speaker 3: some way or fashion, and in this case, that she

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Speaker 3: is getting you thirty every night, you know, getting out

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Speaker 3: of bed. That's a great baseline for the rest of

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Speaker 3: your team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Game three is on what day is the love?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait till freaking Wednesday. She's down. Do

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Speaker 2: you want to guess the lion or if you saw

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Speaker 2: it for game three in Indiana?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So game two was eleven and a half or

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Speaker 3: open up at eleven and a half, I'm I think okay,

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Speaker 3: she's gonna be favored by three and a half.

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Speaker 2: Open four and a half up to five and a half.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry it opened at five and a half. Okay,

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Speaker 2: see favored down to four and a half. So early

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Speaker 2: money on the Pacers. I think the Pacers absolutely need

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Speaker 2: to get this game where the series is over. I

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Speaker 2: think that's a safe statement, right, because then you're putting

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Speaker 2: pressure on yourself to win Game four and now I

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Speaker 2: don't like all this extra time. My gosh, Wednesday, So

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Speaker 2: when would Game four be? Don't tell me they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's Friday, my day. I think it's Friday Sunday,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh boy, well, I guess the Pacers get to

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Speaker 2: lick their wounds for a few days, go home. The

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Speaker 2: Bainbridge Field Outs or whatever it's called, gonna be juiced up.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Hey Indiana, if you could we get

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark back out there. God, I mean, I look

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Speaker 2: at the box score. I'm like, she's not back yet.

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Speaker 2: The hell? Now they did smoke. Angel Rees's team. Angel

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Speaker 2: Reesis team is terrible Chicago. But like we got Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers settled, we're getting that. Summer's barely Here are your

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Speaker 2: kids out of school?

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Speaker 3: Rob Yeah, and actually later on this morning whatever, on Monday,

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Speaker 3: my daughter starts gymnastics camp for the first time. Wow. No,

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Speaker 3: thank gosh. It's just there's like a day camp that

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Speaker 3: you can go to every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, my kid's still in school for a few

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Speaker 2: more days. And then wow, and then it's oh, my gosh, anyways,

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Speaker 2: Father's Day weekend is ahead, Robinson, what kind of stuff you.

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Speaker 3: Want she did, But the problem is that our tenure

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Speaker 3: wedding anniversary is like the same weekend.

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Speaker 2: Oh and that's not fair. Yeah, so so now you

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Speaker 2: have to do something on Father's Day.

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Speaker 3: No, but I mean I I'm thinking of ways to

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Speaker 3: pay off debt as we speak right now. That's the

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Speaker 3: kind of of because you know, ten years is a

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Speaker 3: big deal. So she's getting a nice fat dime.

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Speaker 2: You got past the seven year itch. You know. That's

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Speaker 2: where a lot of guys are like, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So we're both getting jewelry we cant afford. So we're

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Speaker 3: pretty excited about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, congrats, premature congrats, an early congrats to you. Rob

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Speaker 2: All Right back tomorrow. We've got a good guest lined

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Speaker 2: up tomorrow and then another guest lined up the day

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Speaker 2: after that. Look gambling. She is a big deal on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that. Anyways, we're back tomorrows yet