WEBVTT - Episode 172 :Feat Dr Umar Johnson |  Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Breakfast Club interviews, the VLAD interviews, and I was pissed

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<v Speaker 1>off at VLAT because he chopped my interview up. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do that with Mark Lamond Hill or the other scholars.

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<v Speaker 1>He played they interview flat. Why not just play mine flat?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't sensationalize my content unless you're going to put it

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<v Speaker 1>in a way where you leading credence to the message.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was. He was turning into some fuck he's

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<v Speaker 1>my friend clickbait and I didn't like him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So then his people hit me up, they said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's come back, let's do another one. I fell back

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<v Speaker 1>on that, you know what I mean, because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come on there for that. I came in there for

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<v Speaker 1>a grown man interview, you know what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think those interviews show the power structure that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't give him mainstream attention because it goes viral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm telling you the way it went, the

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<v Speaker 2>way the ripple effect was crazy, man, Like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it was everywhere, like you said, yeah, man. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing you know, because like I don't give a damn

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<v Speaker 2>because it needs to happen, like you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>on these platforms that we need to build some other

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<v Speaker 2>ones that you need to be on because those interviews

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<v Speaker 2>are more important than Charlemagne asking somebody about who punched

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<v Speaker 2>him in the face and why, Like, I like that too,

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's an interesting thing over there with Charlemagne

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm noticing.

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<v Speaker 3>He has this guy he does a podcast with name

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<v Speaker 3>Andrew Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who came at me? A bunch a couple, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he got it. I saw one joint, but he's been coming.

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<v Speaker 2>He's and what he's saying, he's saying like and the

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<v Speaker 2>ship he's saying, and it's it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a Nuance Hitler, the black Trump, the black Hitler

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<v Speaker 3>like this, And I'm thinking myself, like.

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<v Speaker 2>The dude, listen and if I play it to you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like, what the what's up with this?

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<v Speaker 1>The one I saw was it was too intense for

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I don't know and never had a cross off with.

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<v Speaker 2>But Charlemagne because that's his friend. I don't think Charlemagne

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<v Speaker 2>understands what he's doing. Unconsciousness. He's given this guy because

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<v Speaker 2>they sit down and talk every week about black culture.

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<v Speaker 2>He's given shots because I've watched podcast, I've watched shults.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan of shows, but I've watched him garner

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<v Speaker 2>enough nuts to start to even say these kind of things.

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<v Speaker 2>You see what you say, He's too comfortable because of Charlemagne.

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<v Speaker 1>He too comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Without that podcast with Charlemagne, I don't see him speaking

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<v Speaker 2>on black culture. I don't see him even doing these

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<v Speaker 2>things I've I've listened to Charlemagne explained to him things

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<v Speaker 2>without enough information, like for the black experience.

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<v Speaker 3>He might just say, hey, man, what's up with the

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<v Speaker 3>guy's doing this?

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<v Speaker 2>And Charlemagne, for the sake of content, is pulling his

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<v Speaker 2>leg and just you know, shits and giggles.

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<v Speaker 3>But this guy's.

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<v Speaker 2>Forming a your opinion, not only on you, but on

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<v Speaker 2>black culture, on rappers, on hip hop, on like without Charlemagne,

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew Schultz is and who he is. Charlemagne comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the breakfast club. He brings all of us to his podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which you're there saying stuff here and there, we take

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<v Speaker 2>a liking or not, or we just now recognize.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you are.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is a weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder, and I want to ask Charlemagne that

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if Schultz has affected the way he looks

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<v Speaker 2>at you, because I know that he's he was impressed

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<v Speaker 2>with you, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would say that because we do texts from

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<v Speaker 1>time to time. When I hit him up on a

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<v Speaker 1>fourth interview, he was all for it. We just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>make the ends meet. Here's what I'm gonna say about Charlemagne,

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<v Speaker 1>not to defend anything that it's indefensible, right of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would say that having met him, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more conscious and concerned about the state of the

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<v Speaker 1>race than I would have thought before I met him.

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<v Speaker 2>And see I thought that too, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>but twenty nineteen, see back when that when I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the brother Polites and the doctor Umar's and the Pharra

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<v Speaker 2>Khans and then going out to Fara Kahans spot. And

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<v Speaker 2>even in this regular conversation he references Umar, he references

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<v Speaker 2>this is gone away. Like I watched these guys because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a student of the game. And so what what

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<v Speaker 2>confuses me is that I know one hundred percent because

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<v Speaker 2>those episodes that you catch clips of when they talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Umar Johnson, I catch the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So I listen and I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Shots gets him in a place where like, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna ask you to speak about this because this is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing that he held on and he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of stumped Charlemagne.

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<v Speaker 3>Charlomagne didn't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>To say the whole thing about the bank loan, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't right, you can send him back if he's Asian,

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<v Speaker 2>you can send him back if he's so. Andrew Shoultz

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<v Speaker 2>point was, that's the Oumar Johnson is a crock of shit.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 5>Hell, you can get a carlo, but you can't get

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<v Speaker 5>a business loan.

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<v Speaker 4>He's talking to black people.

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<v Speaker 1>The education is going to.

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<v Speaker 5>Cost me one hundred grand, The car is going to

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<v Speaker 5>be about seventy grand. The house is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>a quarter of a million. Why do you approve that?

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<v Speaker 5>But you don't approve the business loan, which is probably.

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<v Speaker 4>For half the amount.

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<v Speaker 5>Because if I finance your empowerment, that disrupts my system

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<v Speaker 5>of extermination in genocide, you cannot killing people who you

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<v Speaker 5>are financially empowering till we are chat without access to well.

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<v Speaker 5>Thats why the hood is full of mom and pop stores.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why the hood is full of struggling businesses, because

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<v Speaker 5>America has a policy where you do not empower black

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<v Speaker 5>people for their own benefit.

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<v Speaker 4>Any other minority.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, why because if they get out of hand, they

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<v Speaker 5>could be sent home. The black men cannot be sent home.

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<v Speaker 5>Slavery is over and as old than in America. America

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<v Speaker 5>was born on July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Slavery in

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<v Speaker 5>the collegies begin on August the twentyeth sixteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>You could get a.

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<v Speaker 4>Student, Chris, I disagree with that a lot. Actually, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually I have a little bit of experience.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I just respond to one thing and then because

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<v Speaker 6>I want to, I want to tell you, okay, first

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<v Speaker 6>of all, you first of all, it just I really

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<v Speaker 6>get upset at these types of people because they just

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<v Speaker 6>take advantage of people that aren't that aren't intelligent, and

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<v Speaker 6>they speak well, and they take advantage of fear, they

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<v Speaker 6>take advantage of anger.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>There are black people that go through racism every single

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<v Speaker 6>day and they feel angry about it, as they should, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and they feel they feel just just wronged by society,

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<v Speaker 6>and they need any and they need a rationale for

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<v Speaker 6>those feelings. And this guy comes in, and he comes

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<v Speaker 6>in and he goes, Oh, I got you. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 6>make money off of your anger. I'm gonna make money

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<v Speaker 6>off of your fear, and I'm gonna give you the

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<v Speaker 6>perfect solution. I'm gonna give you a nice, big, bad

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<v Speaker 6>guy for you to believe in. That's the cause of

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<v Speaker 6>all your problems. And I'm gonna tell you some real

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<v Speaker 6>sexy shit, and I'm gonna bring off the DSM four

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<v Speaker 6>psychology Bible and tell you why it justifies all my

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<v Speaker 6>bullshit bigoted as opinions.

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<v Speaker 4>So when it comes to.

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<v Speaker 6>When it comes to this loan right here, when it

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<v Speaker 6>comes to this loan she's talking about here.

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<v Speaker 4>How is it do you could get a loan for

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<v Speaker 4>a house, but you can't get a loan for a

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<v Speaker 4>small business.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is what he's saying, right He says, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't send an Asian back, that's an American. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>send uh these people back if they're Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, he says, did they not put Asians in internment

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<v Speaker 1>camps in World War Two? Who are American cities? They

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<v Speaker 1>put them in concentration camps American Asian Americans. They put

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<v Speaker 1>him in a tournament camps, throwing World War two right

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<v Speaker 1>here in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>See and that seat Charlemagne or myself don't have that information. Schultz,

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand went to school of Braa on

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, so easy has a little bit more understanding

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<v Speaker 2>of some of these things. So he's able to corner

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<v Speaker 2>Charlemagne and kind of put him in a place where,

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<v Speaker 2>hey man.

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<v Speaker 1>You know where he wouldn't be able to do that

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the only reason why I haven't debated him. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to make sure that I get more out of

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<v Speaker 1>it than him, for reasons. You just said he's benefited

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<v Speaker 1>from Charlemagne's platform, Right, I have a very strong following. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't afford for him to benefit from mine. You understand,

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<v Speaker 1>because the European is all about exploitation. Even there's an

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<v Speaker 1>agenda behind him wanting to debate me that supersedes his ego.

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<v Speaker 1>It's financial, it's political. You follow what I'm saying. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who he connects it. To give me the

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<v Speaker 1>full plate. Let me see exactly what you're about. If

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<v Speaker 1>he can't, I if shults call me right now and

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<v Speaker 1>said I wanted to debate you, and I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you a million dollars to restore your school, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>it popping. I'm ready, let's go, let's go. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am not going to debate a no Namer because for me,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a no Namer. I never knew any before Charlotmage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not wasting no time with no no Namer if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna get something out of it, even if

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<v Speaker 1>he pull up a half meal quughtermel, I'm ready to have.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need no prep. Let's go. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to give you the benefit of my following,

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<v Speaker 1>my platform, my position, and I ain't getting nothing out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, but the conversation with a nobody.

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<v Speaker 3>And see and and and that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost think, and I want to talk to shows

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<v Speaker 2>two and I'm asking the tough questions ause he needs

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<v Speaker 2>to be asked.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I seem tarka she do it with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know they had a conss man and he

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<v Speaker 2>sat him down and just he just kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck fucked.

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<v Speaker 7>Him much for joining us pleasure.

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<v Speaker 6>I listened to you on tax yesterday. You are talented.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't say that about anybody. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>you listened to this podcast, but I'm very seldomly bestowed

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<v Speaker 6>a compliment on people. You have a gift. You're a

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<v Speaker 6>great communicator. Very very good communicator. And I'm listening to

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<v Speaker 6>this episode. I wonder, and I mean this when I

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<v Speaker 6>say you are a gifted from communicator, And I wonder

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<v Speaker 6>if you suffer from a lack of competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if you know how like Jordan.

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<v Speaker 6>Needed the Pistons to reach peak Jordan, you know, and

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<v Speaker 6>like Magic and Bird needed each other. And you know,

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<v Speaker 6>all greats need somebody to push them to expose their greatness.

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<v Speaker 6>And I wonder if you are so good at at

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<v Speaker 6>at kind of at making arguments seem completely understandable, completely

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<v Speaker 6>believable that the person that you're arguing with.

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<v Speaker 4>Challenging you enough.

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<v Speaker 8>And I felt and I felt like and I remember

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<v Speaker 8>thinking in certain ways, like when you were talking about

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<v Speaker 8>white supremacy, I was like, are you is this.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I explained it.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you blinded by white supremacy in terms like where

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<v Speaker 6>you're missing the maybe the actual.

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<v Speaker 4>Root cause of an issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 7>Blinded? That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Blinded meaning like like you're so committed to proving.

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<v Speaker 6>White supremacy, which we which we can absolutely acknowledge in

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<v Speaker 6>certain in certain instances, is the indicator is the root

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<v Speaker 6>cause in certain in certain but I think in other

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<v Speaker 6>ones it might not be what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>A lot of times people put black folks in token

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<v Speaker 7>positions and say, hey, there's a black guy right there,

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<v Speaker 7>so there's no white supremacy. There's a two black kids

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<v Speaker 7>going to that school, so it's not segregated, no white supremacy,

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<v Speaker 7>it's integrated because there's two black people right there. You see,

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<v Speaker 7>integration is a is a trick word. It's white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>You said, if there's one or two, it's a token.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm going, what percent of representation does it become

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<v Speaker 6>not a token but in fact the exact representation that

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<v Speaker 6>should reflect of the population.

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<v Speaker 7>When there's equal treatment and equal resources for the group

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<v Speaker 7>function of white supremacy that they're doing so well here, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>because they're allowed to Other people are allowed by the

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<v Speaker 7>white supremacists to prosper over Black Americans here because these.

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<v Speaker 4>Meetings I'm missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well see that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Meetings all over.

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<v Speaker 7>It is all over, y'all won't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Us this is what we have to.

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<v Speaker 7>Suspect people that Nigerian money. That's why we have to

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<v Speaker 7>suspect certain people, the white supremacists. These meetings are all over.

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all not.

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<v Speaker 7>Telling us who's y'all I'm not being you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, somebody who knows what a wretch I can going

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<v Speaker 1>to the Jerry doctors, a dentist.

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<v Speaker 7>That's the thing they're allowed. They're allowed.

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<v Speaker 6>Why would a white supremacist allow a black Nigerian to

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<v Speaker 6>receive such wealth and privilege.

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<v Speaker 7>Because they can take that wealth and privilege right away

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<v Speaker 7>if they want to. Anytime. They can deport them. They

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<v Speaker 7>can send them back over to Nigeria from the hell.

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<v Speaker 7>You can't absolutely if you are black, if you're for

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<v Speaker 7>you from another country. We're talking about immigrants here, they

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<v Speaker 7>can find a reason to deport you. They's an immigrant

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<v Speaker 7>from where?

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<v Speaker 4>From Scotland?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well she's white, that's different.

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<v Speaker 7>But black immigrants, I don't say that, not coming, no,

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<v Speaker 7>no, no no, I didn't say that. But okay, but we're

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<v Speaker 7>black people. Cant them with black people. Well they're doing

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<v Speaker 7>that now with Syrians. All they have to do is

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<v Speaker 7>say you're a terrorists, you're connected to ices. They can

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<v Speaker 7>make up anything. You're connected with Boko Haram. They could

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<v Speaker 7>make that up. And you have no proof you have

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<v Speaker 7>ebola from Nigeria.

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<v Speaker 9>So you're gonna have to go back because they're connected

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<v Speaker 9>to Bokohama and for people who are familiar around bokham

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<v Speaker 9>is a terrorist organization with links of ISIS that is

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<v Speaker 9>operating in Nigeria right now and it's displaced thousands of people.

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<v Speaker 6>Really scary ship. But who have they sent back because

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<v Speaker 6>as far as my understanding.

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<v Speaker 1>This.

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<v Speaker 7>The but but the thing is, I'm giving you an example,

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<v Speaker 7>and they've never said anything. I'm getting They won't let

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<v Speaker 7>people over. They'll say, well he can't. It's different than

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<v Speaker 7>send back to Rika. But I'm just giving you. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>just giving you an example of what they can do.

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<v Speaker 7>They can do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>This is why you're good.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm giving you an example, giving you a ship. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>giving you an example.

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<v Speaker 2>What they can do, like you know, I mean shows No,

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<v Speaker 2>she was saying great things. But Shoults he's a comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have to know. It's it's mannerisms and the

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<v Speaker 2>way he's able to present things. He can make it

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<v Speaker 2>seem away. But you have that too without being Serrik

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<v Speaker 2>is just kind of sitting there. He's not a scholar star,

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<v Speaker 2>so they go with the right supremacy, you know, So

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<v Speaker 2>he's not and he's he don't.

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<v Speaker 3>He may not even know how.

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<v Speaker 2>We look shouts drilling at him, and you see the titles.

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<v Speaker 3>That shots put up.

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<v Speaker 2>He Charlemagne somewhere in his mind, this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>on his mind. He's a cancer. I know it's on

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<v Speaker 2>his mind somewhere. He may not ever speak about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this guy is getting out of I mean he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing it and he's still at it. Yes, he's still.

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<v Speaker 2>He moves it like from you to he he's a contrarian.

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<v Speaker 2>He's turned since you and Tarika the sheet and in

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<v Speaker 2>this whole when he felt this dog he caught strive

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<v Speaker 2>and found a way to kind of go against people

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<v Speaker 2>and get notoriety from he started, he stepped and switched

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<v Speaker 2>his whole ship to now, I'm just a contrarian.

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<v Speaker 1>Right because he's able to get the black views off of.

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<v Speaker 2>That view exactly, and he titles it to get the

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<v Speaker 2>white views like and I think if Charlemagne is not

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<v Speaker 2>paying attention now, but some ship he'll say, you will

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<v Speaker 2>see the title of a video. And this could be coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it is. I think it's by yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So you will see a title when it'll say something

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<v Speaker 2>like uh uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The brilliant idiot's d bunk racism.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's sitting next to one of our culture's most comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like he co signing that you're sitting next to

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<v Speaker 1>and so.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm thinking to myself, either Charlemagne doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably not consciousness.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Joey Diaz is amazed. They're comedians. They trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, how did you start getting these fuse man?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, damn dude, you're taking it Voto.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Charlmagne, He's sitting there the whole time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, man, I was seventeen, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I started you know, you know, you know, going to

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<v Speaker 2>the comedy club.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The next thing, you know, I start putting these clips up, and.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's this weird thing that I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 2>because Charlemagne is in a position to put people like

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<v Speaker 2>you in.

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<v Speaker 3>Front of our your you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so in a weird way, and just by conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to I have to lean towards he's being affected.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. I have to just because and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>clip wise.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking two and three hours because shots gets him

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<v Speaker 2>in these places and he can't because you don't he

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<v Speaker 2>like he said, I don't have enough information, and like

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<v Speaker 2>he said, like one of the time he told me,

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<v Speaker 2>said about your breakfast club interview. He was talking about

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<v Speaker 2>something and Charlemagne said, dude, I didn't have the information,

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<v Speaker 2>right He's he's this is what he does. He's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why didn't he know this or whatever? And I'll let

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<v Speaker 2>you hear it after the interview, just so you can know.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a sense of what's going on, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that's just that that's something to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something there to me, and I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what stopped umar from being on these.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where I'm at with it. To your point, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an excellent point, the Roland Martin interview when he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to assassinate my political reputation and I flipped it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that interview may have hurt me more to

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<v Speaker 1>get other interviews because I did so well with it.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, the power structure probably said, look at

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<v Speaker 1>what he did. We sent rolling in there with two coons.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna say three because the third brother he

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<v Speaker 1>was all right, but Lauren Berg and Eugene Craig, they

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<v Speaker 1>were coons, Roland Martin and two coons but and Entourager four.

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<v Speaker 1>And they cannot take down doctor Umar. If he can

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<v Speaker 1>do this to Roland, imagine what he'll do to Don Lemon,

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf Blitzer, Conan, You see the Oprah can't if young

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<v Speaker 1>black people see him do on OPRAH or seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>what he did to Roland, that he will become the

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<v Speaker 1>black Messiah. See the serious They never put them on

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream TV. Uh, they never put them on mainstream TV

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<v Speaker 1>unless they know they can control their actions or know

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<v Speaker 1>they have to answer to somebody who can control their actions.

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<v Speaker 1>They put Malcolm on TV, but Malcolm had to answer

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<v Speaker 1>to the Hon Elijah Mhammad, right, And the Nation of

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<v Speaker 1>Islam is not a political organization, so they didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to worry about them trying to make changes in society

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<v Speaker 1>because they are religious, they're not politically, so they could

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<v Speaker 1>put Malcolm up. Once Malcolm split, he was still on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>but not as much because now he has the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>to do and we don't need him giving our marching

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<v Speaker 1>orders on our show. You see, you gotta watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>The ones who are always on TV, they're not a threat.

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<v Speaker 1>The real ones don't get them. How many times you

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<v Speaker 1>saw h rap Brown Stokely Coma a few times, but

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<v Speaker 1>not on the regular. Don't. Because the worst thing you

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<v Speaker 1>can do to an organizer, some nobody who's organizing to

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<v Speaker 1>undermine your agenda is to give them your platform to

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<v Speaker 1>inform their people about how they can help them undermine you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you'll never see me on I think I

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<v Speaker 1>can force it, though, as we continue in this work

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<v Speaker 1>and the power come in the school come, they won't

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<v Speaker 1>have a choice because here's the issue with the white man.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a need for power, but he also has

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<v Speaker 1>a need to get paid. Capitalism and racism works hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand. The racism says doctor Umar doesn't go on CNN.

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<v Speaker 1>The capitalism says, do you know how many views we

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<v Speaker 1>would get if he one on one with Dyna limits,

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<v Speaker 1>if he does what down what he did with Roland,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know how many views we will get? And

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<v Speaker 1>then the racist comes back and say, yeah, you'll get

0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 1>ten million views the first day, But at what costs?

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<v Speaker 1>How many more black youth are going to be woke up?

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<v Speaker 1>How many more black folks are going to go looking

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<v Speaker 1>for him? And that's the balance of the racism and

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the capitalism that the white man has always had to strike,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why with the black comedians, they'll let them

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<v Speaker 1>stretch out a little bit more with political rhetoric because

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.040
<v Speaker 1>they're comedians. They're not organized. But the minute the comedian

0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 1>starts saying he wants to organize, they clip him.

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<v Speaker 3>I E. I E.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosby and jail right now because he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>buy NBC. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the brother that died? Man, I'm losing it. A

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<v Speaker 2>convinced comedian.

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<v Speaker 3>Dick Gregory.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gregory shout rest in peace. And he was a good, good,

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<v Speaker 1>good good friend of mine. You know, right before he died.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke in DC. We were on the same car.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke about three times together. We did Boston together,

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we did DC together, and we did another city together.

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<v Speaker 1>And the last time I saw him was at a

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<v Speaker 1>d C lecture Black church. Right. Excuse me. He never

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<v Speaker 1>did this before. He waited, he had already spoke. He

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<v Speaker 1>normally go. He waited until I was done outside at

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<v Speaker 1>his age, he waited to talk to me. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>bothera Gregor. You never wait for me. I mean we

0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>always been cool, but you never wait. Brother. We spoke

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<v Speaker 1>outside till it got dark. I want to say five

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 1>six kicking it five six out now Mayas. This man

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<v Speaker 1>knew all my heroes personally, medga, personally, knock him personally

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:26.320
<v Speaker 1>person stokely, int trapped, all minds, and he's telling me, Umar,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be careful. But when I look at you,

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<v Speaker 1>I see them you know. And I'm paraphrasing him, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically what he telling me. He gives me a

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<v Speaker 1>little tip.

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<v Speaker 4>This.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch this, watch this, watch this. We only left. We

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:39.480
<v Speaker 1>would have been out there till the sunrise. We only

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>left because his driver said he had to make another run.

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>He had to take him home. When he took off,

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<v Speaker 1>brother a lot of you not. I told my brothers

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 1>who was with me, I got chills. I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he gonna be with us too much longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Him taking that time out to me was symbolic of

0:22:56.760 --> 0:23:00.800
<v Speaker 1>him telling you, I'm passing it. I got to go right.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew all your heroes. This the last time I'm

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:05.679
<v Speaker 1>gonna see you, and I want you to know that

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<v Speaker 1>you got my back right, You on the right path,

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<v Speaker 1>keep on pushing and you are there real. It was

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<v Speaker 1>almost like he was the go between between knock him

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<v Speaker 1>and me king and me right right. Definitely less than

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days he was gone. And when I went to

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<v Speaker 1>his funeral, I was standing in line because his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>caught me to give me a ticket. My father will

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<v Speaker 1>want you to be here. I'm standing in line to

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<v Speaker 1>go inside the funeral. Pack beautiful funeral, Stevie Wonder. It

0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 1>was all that. One of his friends came up to

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>me said, I just want you to know that me

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>and Bobby Dick Gregory had a lot of long conversations

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 1>about you, and he loved you, doctor Umar, he loved you.

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>And I flashed back to that. That's why he took

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<v Speaker 1>them hours with me, because he saw something in me

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:48.880
<v Speaker 1>that he saw in them. And the message I got

0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.119
<v Speaker 1>from him is you ain't got to prove nothing to me.

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>I know you real. That's what I got from him.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't got the proof it to me. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk with the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't trick him.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't trick in six hours, man, everybody was gone

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just us. I'll never forget it, man,

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that's electric. I'll never forget it, like going within thirty days, damn,

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and I felt it. I felt I said, why did

0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>he never did that with me before to take hours

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and just he was just going I wish I could

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>have taped it because he was going off the top,

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>just giving me all he could give me before he rode.

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<v Speaker 1>He was I got him on my altitude.

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<v Speaker 3>That's real.

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<v Speaker 2>That's real, man, that's d So, So clarify, clarify your

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<v Speaker 2>point on the whole banking thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and that situation.

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Black people can easily get loans for college, cars a

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:47.040
<v Speaker 1>little tougher, but houses. We routinely are denied loans for business.

0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.280
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that is because of intellectual racism or

0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what they think we can achieve. But the bigger piece

0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.679
<v Speaker 1>of that is what economic liberation. They don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>economically liberated. I'm not going to finance your read them

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>when I brought you to America to exploit your labor.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>What I want to financial freedom for When I give

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>you the car loan, I'm investing in your debt. Soon

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 1>when you drive that Mercedes off the lot is worth

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<v Speaker 1>half of what it was when I give you that

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>house loan, I'm banking on the fact that you're gonna

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>get a variable mortgage that they're gonna spike up on you.

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>So you're ultimately gonna have to full close on that crib,

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna get it back and sell it to

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<v Speaker 1>ten more blackberries. That's a hustle if you're not there

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.960
<v Speaker 1>for a big hustle. You see what I'm saying. College,

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I know that's a hustle because you're gonna spend four

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>years in there. That interest is running every single year.

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna come out. You're gonna have to go back

0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:38.840
<v Speaker 1>and get a master's. You're gonna come out. You have

0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to go back and get a doctorate. Before you even

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>get your first real job. You owe me quarter mil.

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<v Speaker 1>You see that most of the loans we get are

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:51.760
<v Speaker 1>four hour continued economic incarceration. The business loan is for

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>your liberation. And that's why you can get a two

0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars med school loan, but you

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>can't get a fifty thousand dollars daycare.

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Loan right now. Now, Schultz position on that was.

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<v Speaker 2>With the car loan. The reason it's easier to get

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<v Speaker 2>has nothing to do with race.

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<v Speaker 6>The bank can then take that house and sell it

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 6>to somebody else. Can they take nobody beats the Wiz

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 6>and sell nobody beats the wiz. When that's out of business,

0:26:21.840 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 6>can they take.

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<v Speaker 4>They take the property?

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Can they take?

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<v Speaker 6>But you don't own the property. When you have a

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 6>small business, you own yours. Yes, you absolutely do own

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 6>your house. You own your house and if you don't

0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 6>pay the bills, the bank owns it. But what does

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 6>the bank do with Nobody beats the whiz when they

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 6>don't own the actual brick and mortar. They own property,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:41.919
<v Speaker 6>They don't own the property. Do you understand the difference

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 6>between the business and property, because if not, we can't

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<v Speaker 6>have this discussion.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So business right is Charlotne They got enterprises?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I know that, but are you sure? But if you

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 4>have if you.

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<v Speaker 10>Own a business like as far as like leasing a building,

0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.120
<v Speaker 10>renting a building, which most people that's what most people

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<v Speaker 10>get the loans for to get the building.

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<v Speaker 4>Most of the time you need that's not true. I

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 4>grew up in a small business and that's not true.

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 4>That's all the time when I'm for me, when I'm

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:05.560
<v Speaker 4>trying to thought of a.

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 6>Business startup money, it's more than the two thousand dollars

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 6>a month that you have to spend in rent. What

0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 6>do you think, Chris Uh, you're talking as someone who

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 6>grew up innocent.

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 4>I understand these.

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.560
<v Speaker 10>Long My father had a small, a small seafood market,

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 10>so let's let's ask him about what the cost was.

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 11>But I mean, I think he I think he's right

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 11>about systematic economic oppression, but I think he's using an

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.520
<v Speaker 11>incorrect example on my understanding.

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<v Speaker 6>Google the people to believe you, But I could google

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 6>these grants. You can't google the information to back up

0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 6>with doctor Martins.

0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Google information I told you to, did not?

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 6>You already told me when I got on the phone

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 6>with you, I don't dis You said, I disagree with

0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 6>that one thing about sending back the other minds.

0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 10>And I said, when it came to the small business loans, yes,

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 10>you can get grants, but I don't know about from

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 10>the banks. You can when you get small business on

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:56.639
<v Speaker 10>these are banks that I can use. Small's true, that's companies.

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 4>I know that because I have businesses.

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 11>But he's insinuating then he's not out there. And I

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 11>really think the money like Wax should absolutely be able

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 11>to Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 10>Barack Obama allocated one point two billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Obama, that guy who hasn't done anything for black people,

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 6>According to doctor Ruma Johnson, that Barack Obama, Hey, oh

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 6>what what about that one point two billion dollars?

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 7>Oh?

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 4>I guess he just forgot about that.

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 6>Well, maybe it doesn't fit his fucking agenda, which is

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 6>give you a justification.

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 4>To give you that heroine you need. You feel shitty.

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 6>I don't give you a justification for your shitty field

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:28.920
<v Speaker 6>and profit arment.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 4>He just didn't know.

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>It's his job to know.

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 10>Now, really, we don't know his fucking job know everything.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 10>So why don't you come here with more facts than

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:40.239
<v Speaker 10>because I ain't every day read because this motherfucker will

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 10>get up here and do exactly what.

0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Now you just trying.

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>Now, you're just trying to discredit me instead this what

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 4>you do?

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>You try to discredit me.

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 4>No, it's a very clever. I'm trying to strategic moves.

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 6>No, No, you try to discredit me from from talking

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 6>about this person that you and I have already had

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 6>a conversation about. He said, specifically in this thing, what's

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 6>the difference between giving people of other minorities in America

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 6>loan to giving black people and loans? Is America doesn't

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 6>want to profit the black man's rise and economic power?

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Not profit.

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 6>They won't want to support it. They will do it

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 6>for Peaple other minorities because they could send those other

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 6>minorities back to their country.

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:14.600
<v Speaker 4>How listen, how could.

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>You do that?

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't with that.

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 6>You can't send a Chinese kid that was born here

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 6>back to China.

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't agree with that. But you know the reason

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 4>or not it's wrong? Do I think it's wrong? But

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 4>you know the reason I didn't dispute that because I

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't know, simple as that.

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 3>How could you not know?

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 4>This is mister constitution. He doesn't know the fact that

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 4>you're born here, you can't get sent back to Chinese.

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna look at him as though we don't

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 4>want that. America's two things. I want to make a

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 4>point about that this team me and you is.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 10>I'm not talking about this issue because now we're talking

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 10>about us. Let's talk about this just me and you.

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 10>I'm not afraid to say I don't know. And if

0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 10>I don't know, you know what I do shut the

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 10>fuck up and listen sure, and then I go research

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 10>so the next time i'm w'll prefraid.

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<v Speaker 4>That's number one.

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 10>Number two the reason I tell you too, it's okay

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 10>to say, Yo, you don't agree with doctor Uma, but

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 10>the same things, like he gets up and he just

0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 10>runs his mouth and he wants people to believe in him.

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 4>That's what we all did. I didn't say any of

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 4>those things. I didn't. I said, he praise off people's anger,

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 4>and you want people to believe in him, And you said.

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 6>I never said I want people to believe him.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.480
<v Speaker 4>Of course he wants off of them.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, which you know, we know who I'm living that

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I got five properties.

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I got equity in.

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>All of them.

0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't owe anything on anything, like I'm one hundred

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>percent ownership. I went to get a loan and they

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 2>told me, no, I make thousand dollars a month from

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 2>two houses. They told me no, knowing this money is

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 2>coming directly from the state of Tennessee, they see it

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>coming into the banks.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And they told me what other reason could there be?

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Because if they give you the loan, they empower you

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>to challenge and compete with other white males for other

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>economic agendans. Right, that's what purely racism.

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm saying purely from my uncle sitting

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>in there, like we get you guys, see k come

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>in here every month like clockwork, clockwork from the government.

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Racist comes straight from the States. And they said, no,

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>we're like yo, what.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 1>See, the economic racism is more important than the intellectual racism,

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the social racism, the militaristic racism i e. Police genocide.

0:31:26.320 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Why is economic racism the most important racism? Because there

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 1>can be no black power without the black dollar. There

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>can't be no black power without the black If we

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>don't kill the black dollar, we can't kill nothing else.

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>That's why they focus on that so much. All we

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>got to do is stop them from getting capital in

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>large amounts and we can kill the whole Black renaissance facts.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Now to clarify now, Show's point on that was, well,

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 2>the reason you could get a call loan, the reason

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you can get a home loan, the reason get these

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>other loans, It has nothing to do with race. The

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 2>reason is because they do have the ability to sell

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>the car if you can't afford it. They do have

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the ability to sell the house. But with a business loan,

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 2>nobody can. They can't sell. Nobody beats the Wiz because

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>you don't get the property, you just get the business.

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>So you're you're operating a business which has no value

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>in the marketplace, is what he's saying. He's saying that, hey,

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>nobody beats the wiz, which is a business. If that

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>falls and goes out of out of commission, there's nothing

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:36.400
<v Speaker 2>you can.

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's nothing that they can.

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.000
<v Speaker 1>If that be the case. We step away from that

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 1>and say, let's look at let's do a case by

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 1>case review of all the white folks who have been

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>approved for business loans in one year, just go the

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>past year, and let's look at all the black folks

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 1>who have been shot down, and let's look at whether

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>there's any differences in equity, income, credit score. I think

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 1>we all know what we're gonna find. You feel me,

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>that is an argument you cannot win because racism is

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the original intent of America. America was built on racism.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you know why Thomas Jefferson declared independence from Britain?

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Why was they even a declaration of independence?

0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you know why?

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Because Britain had already started entertaining the conversation of liberating

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.200
<v Speaker 1>their slaves in their Caribbean islands and in Europe. Yeah,

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>so the colonists Washington, Jefferson, Franklin Madison, they said the

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>British are going to end slavery. Our whole purpose for

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>creating America is to exploit slave labor to build a

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>new country. If we remained under Britain as a loyal

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>subject and they kill slavery, they kill our whole economic empire.

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Contrary to popular belief, they did not declare independence on

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.800
<v Speaker 1>July for seventeen seventy six for their freedom before your

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>continued servitude. That's facts. If Chops pulled some money out,

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll spect his white ass. I ain't got no problem.

0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I eat his food and I eat his food, but

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.880
<v Speaker 1>he don't have to pay me because we're not equal.

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>He got you.

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>If it was Michael er Dison or something, we can

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>go and I respect although we on to totally, but

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you're not my equal fan. I think it's time for

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>shows to show us that he's doing more than taken

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>from this culture.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we and we we welcome to me, and

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>because we got that much respect for Charlemagne. So you

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>stand next to a man and we funked with you,

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>got to be careful because reciprocated.

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:40.919
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying.

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna do that for him. That's what I'm saying,

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I give you another one. I ain't got nothing against him,

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>DJ Collin, I got nothing against them, But how can

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>I a rapt from black culture like that? We've never

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>been able to eat from a rap culture. You're not

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.400
<v Speaker 1>going to invade a rap music and become one of

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the no eminem eminem. You're not no black person that's

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>going into a white industry and being put up as

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>one of their greatest. You don't get that in nobody

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>else's culture, only black folks. It's mostly our fault though

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.720
<v Speaker 1>we allow them to come in and exploit. The lad

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>is another one. How do you let.

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.959
<v Speaker 2>Lads be responsible for at the end of the day, man,

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 2>These kind of people are in these positions, like you said,

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it'll be rough for.

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Me to and they have no loyalty to the culture.

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying, it's all purely for personal and economic

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and political. There's no loyalty to the culture. Meaning if

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>something better came along which required them to turn their

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.240
<v Speaker 1>back on the culture, they do it in the heartbeat.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>There's no loyalty, then you can feel it.

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I That's what I think about the

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>whole Charlemagne thing, and and and and I don't. I

0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>don't say that to get in between those guys. I

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>just understand the way it looks. I gotta be honest

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 2>about it.

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought the whole thing was a one stop shop.

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.400
<v Speaker 1>In other ways, when he went at me for a

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>couple of times and he left, I thought it was

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a thing at a bat.

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Because this is the thing, this is what he finds

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 2>fucked up. Right, fifteen minutes they were talking when he

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 2>was trying to flip it on Charlemagne, and he was saying, like,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 2>what if I were you, man, I'll be responsible with

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 2>my platform.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't put someone that hate gays.

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And that hat I hate gays, That's what I'm But

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 2>but he's saying that to penetrate Charlemagne's man, like, oh fuck.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 3>But Charlomage is standing on the square in the moment.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 3>But I know in the back.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 2>Of his mind he's like, Okay, we are in council culture, Like,

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 3>If this is dangerous. If it is, whether or not

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:40.399
<v Speaker 3>he's introducing doubt.

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 4>Interview Donald Trump. That's what I keep trying to tell you.

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 6>I know it's a difference interviewing somebody and promoting their rhetoric,

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 6>and you promote this guy.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 4>No, I was.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 10>I was promoting a breakfast club interview, because right after

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 10>that I put the asap Rocky interview out Literally seconds later,

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 10>I was promoting all the new interview we had on

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 10>our websites.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 4>You trump you.

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:04.439
<v Speaker 6>And you said you were saying that last week, because

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 6>that's putting doctor. Nobody's giving him a platform on the podcast,

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:12.919
<v Speaker 6>giving you for saying that.

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>In the world.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 4>You want to context so you just want to try

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 4>to prove I told you that because's rhetoric. This is

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 4>what I keep telling.

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 10>I take people are more committed to your own clean

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 10>What am I not going to get on this podcast and.

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 4>Save people who man they don't agree with.

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 10>Being or anything? What did I say the same way,

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 10>I will take a gay man and let him get

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:42.040
<v Speaker 10>on there.

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 4>I can put d ra on it. This is the

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 4>thing about people in general.

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 10>Anybody with a real opinion, anybody who says things that

0:37:46.800 --> 0:37:48.760
<v Speaker 10>people don't agree with, people are going to disagree.

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I could take a nice suitet introducing doubt into a

0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 2>mind that that probably that.

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna give Charlamage the benef yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Your point is well taken, and I may speak with

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>him about that next time. I say, yeah, definitely with him,

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and I'm.

0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure he'll he'll heal this and he'll probably he'll they'll

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>probably speak about it, because I'm telling you there's something there.

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Every time he brings you up, he discredit is it

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:18.280
<v Speaker 2>on the level where it's like it's.

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Almost it's almost like if I go home and tell.

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>My woman I want to eat chicken to night and she, oh,

0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 2>my god, chicken is the worst fucking thing.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 3>At some point, I'm gonna stop bringing up that.

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I want to eat chicks.

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 3>It's unnecessary. We're friends where we're supposed to be boyfriend

0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and girlfriend. There's no need for us to argue about

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 3>so will eat something else?

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And I think he's kinda he's pushing.

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I think a lot of it boils

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:48.479
<v Speaker 1>down to there's nothing a white racist male hates more

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 1>than an unapologetically African alpha male. And what he hates

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 1>even more than that is a unapologetically African alpha male

0:38:59.000 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>who's foundation is not mutable by the white power structure.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>In other words, when you say we want to destroy

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 1>doctor Umar, you can't go to no university I don't

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 1>work for. You can't go to no school district. I

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>don't work for. You can't go to Minister Fia Cohn.

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in that. You see what I'm saying. You

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:19.399
<v Speaker 1>can't go to the NAACP. He's not that. You can't

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 1>go to the Masons, he ain't one. You can't go

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to the Elks. You can't go to the Greeks. We

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 1>can't go to a black chi Who in the hell

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 1>can we reach out to to pull doctor Umar's collar? Nobody?

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.760
<v Speaker 1>And my power base is my people. This is critical

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>because when you look at a lot of our hip

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.720
<v Speaker 1>hop artists, although they're from the hood, some of them

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:45.240
<v Speaker 1>still in the hood, their power base is the major

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>music industries, the conglomerate out and since the most mainstream

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:57.399
<v Speaker 1>hip hop is purchased by non Africans, they require some

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>degree of complicity because you don't want to alienate your

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>white base. Now, we may we listen to the hip

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hop more than white folks, but we're able to get

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>it through different venues that don't require us to pay

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>for it. You follow what I'm saying. It's not that

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 1>white folks are listening to hip hop more than us.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 1>We're able to get it without paying for you see,

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>but in terms of purchasable consumers, the whites are buying

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it more than the marketplace. So they can be controlled

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>to a degree because you have a white constituency no

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:36.360
<v Speaker 1>different than a black politician. My constituency is one black.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You see, I ain't got no a rap constituents. I

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no Anglo Saxon. I ain't got no Chinese

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>my power base to some degree, think almost like me,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>how do you shut him when he's standing on millions

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of people who believe what he believed.

0:40:56.920 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 3>You can't.

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the issue with people like Cholkes because they're so

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>used to making one phone call and killing it and

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 1>killing it.

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.759
<v Speaker 2>So, but and so what he understands is because he's

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 2>a psychologist. So what he understands is, see this dude

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 2>is he's stealth, he's gays.

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.399
<v Speaker 1>You know what else I learned he studies me. Yeah,

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 1>he studies particularly he knows.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.919
<v Speaker 2>But and and so he's he's a psychologist. So when

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he talks about it, he puts it in a in

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 2>a way where like I said, if you're listening and

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 2>you don't know any better, or you don't know for yourself,

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>or you don't go research for yourself. He puts it

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.920
<v Speaker 2>in a way where it's like whoa, whatever he was

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 2>just talking about, that must be true, Like that guy

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>must not know what he's talking about, you know. And

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 2>so I just think it's something there that that that

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>that that just needs to be addressed. But your message,

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what I was gonna say. What I think

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 2>is going on is that he understands that. Well, not

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.360
<v Speaker 2>only him people, because I'll take it off the shows,

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 2>some people understand that. So what they know is is

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>if I can get to Charlemagne, or if I can

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 2>get to.

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Because I can't affect him, get to the gatekeepers exactly,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 3>if I can.

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 2>Get to him and say, well, he's LGBT, he hates

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 2>gays man, or he's one of those guys that.

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Like assassinate the character, make the host feel ashamed, and

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:24.720
<v Speaker 1>kill access to the platform.

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>Because what he's also said about the school, he said, hey, listen,

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, because Charlamagne was trying to defend you. He

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 2>was like, man, that man, he's not going to be

0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 2>teaching the kids to hate gay people.

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, oh, so.

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 2>You think the man who's uh spitting all this rhetorica

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:44.000
<v Speaker 2>all around the world is going to have a school

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.520
<v Speaker 2>and then stop spitting the rhetoric.

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:47.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, see he puts him in these But here's

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.759
<v Speaker 1>what I say, because when I speak at universities, I'm

0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>going to get a phone call because black LBG tars

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 1>are going to tell them I hate gays, and they're

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna me and this is religiously okay, And I'm going

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>to ask them one sip of question. I have more

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>videos on YouTube than any living black scholar in the world.

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Can you find me a clip where I said I

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.239
<v Speaker 1>hate or that I advocate hatred to gaze show it

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to Can you show me a clip where I said

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I hate white women or I advocate hatred to white women.

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Me telling black men that they don't need to be

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:27.160
<v Speaker 1>with white women ain't about hating white women. It's about

0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>loving black women. Me being against LBGT ain't about hating LBGT.

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.799
<v Speaker 1>It's about loving the black family. You see, don't confuse

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 1>the mean and the method with what your interpretation is.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's what they do. So they'll try to put

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>their interpretation on my message. You cannot do that. Prove

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 1>through my words your position that I'm a hater. You

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying. That's all charloa Mane had to

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>hit him with. Give me something. He said that you

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:59.520
<v Speaker 1>feel substantiate your claims that he hates gays. And I've

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.359
<v Speaker 1>spoken on LBGT a lot, so you shouldn't have no

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>problem finding that. My position on LBGT is this, I

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:11.680
<v Speaker 1>love all black folks. I don't care what they are, gay, straight, crooked, whatever, crazy.

0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I love all black folks right right. But I reserve

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the right to disagree with any actions, positions, lifestyles, or

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>agendas that are not in the best inches of African people,

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>which is to say that I'm politically pragmatic. As a pragmatist,

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you bring me something and I ask you, how does

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>this benefit me? Like a vegan or a vegetarian, they

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>are dietary pragmatists. When you bring them a mill, you

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 1>know what they're gonna do. They gonna look at it

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and say, there's no nutritional content in this, hoki, I'm

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not gonna eat it. You follow what I'm saying. They're

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna look and say, well, this carrot got a little

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>bit of fiber, but this key we got more. I'm

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna eat the kii instead of a vegan and a vegetarian.

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.839
<v Speaker 1>They are dietary pragmatists. They're not eating it if there's

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>no nutrition in it, period. It must be of benefit,

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>and nothing in it better be of detriment. That's how

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:03.440
<v Speaker 1>I am politically. You bring me homosexuality, I'm gonna asks you.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>In the community where most men are incarcerated or dead,

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.360
<v Speaker 1>in the community where most black women will never be married,

0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in the community where our sisters are the last married

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>in the first divorce, how can introducing same sex marriage

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>amongst men benefit our people? You see that no hate,

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>no hate? How does that? How does black boys seeing

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 1>black men be sexually intimate with each other benefit their manhood? Training, pragmatism.

0:45:30.600 --> 0:45:32.279
<v Speaker 1>It's no different if you bring me a black man

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with a white woman. How does black boy seeing a

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 1>black man love all up on a white girl and

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 1>not a black one? How does that benefit us? You

0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 1>bring me white Jesus. How does black people worship in

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:47.839
<v Speaker 1>a white male image as their lord benefit us psychologically

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and spiritually? I'm pragmatic with all things, not just one thing.

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm pragmatic with all things. I've been on LBGT shows,

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>they invite me on and we have respectable dialogue. Right,

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:02.560
<v Speaker 1>And I asked them the same question. It's never been answered.

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Can you give me one benefit? I'm just looking for

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 1>one because I'm a pragmatist, so there needs to be benefits. Right,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Can you give me one benefit of the free expression

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and practice and promotion of homosexual lesbian lifestyles in our community?

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Can you give me a benefit? And I haven't been

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:18.479
<v Speaker 1>given an answer yet in twenty years.

0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 3>They And so what you're saying is that people tend

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 3>to twist that.

0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>They twist my message in order to render it so

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous tool so people don't listen any further. See, Schultz's

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 1>agenda is to stop people from listening to my message

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.520
<v Speaker 1>because he knows that it's so politically potent. So what

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do is misrepresent what the man is saying

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and make it look so diabolical that when I tell

0:46:53.360 --> 0:46:56.720
<v Speaker 1>people what he stands for, they will be gullible enough

0:46:57.160 --> 0:46:59.799
<v Speaker 1>to believe what I said and not go and see

0:46:59.840 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>for himself.

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's what Charlamagne told him. Hey did you even

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 2>watch the interview? But he said, man, I watched the

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 2>first eight minutes and knew.

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 3>He was full of shit. Get through.

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>He's jealousy.

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>So that's jealous that's a that's a that's a whole man.

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:13.040
<v Speaker 3>That's a shit show.

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 2>But moving out of that into into police genocide, yes,

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>let's let's let's spend some.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Time police genocide. The reason we got such a strong

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 1>return of police genocide under the Obama administration because it's

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>been with us since we've been here. The slave patrollers

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>were the first police. Remember, no state has a national

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 1>security force until slavey ended. This's not even a mature

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:46.240
<v Speaker 1>federal incarceration system to eighteen sixty five, so the prison

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>system was literally made for us. With that being said,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the reason you saw so much of that come back

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 1>during the Obama years is because white people, who are

0:47:56.360 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>politically uneducated. I'm talking about poor white trash who don't

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 1>have a political education. They're like poor black folks don't

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>have a political education. Poor white trash interpreted the Obama

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 1>victory as a message that white people were losing control

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.240
<v Speaker 1>of America. That's why white folks bought all the guns

0:48:17.239 --> 0:48:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and all the ammunition. There was more guns and ammunition

0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>purchase during Obama's years than any other president in the

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.799
<v Speaker 1>past twenty five years. Because poor white folks don't know

0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 1>no better. They think a black face means black power.

0:48:28.400 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 1>Poor black people don't know no better. They think a

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:32.879
<v Speaker 1>black face means black power. You see what I'm saying.

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So the reason the police went crazy is because putting

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a black man in the White House to uneducated whites

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 1>actually meant a changing of the political guard from white

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to black. They didn't know Obama was just a stooge,

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.760
<v Speaker 1>He was just a token. He was just an agent

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>of white power. They didn't know that. Rich whites know that,

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.600
<v Speaker 1>educated whites know that poor whites, which are the bulk

0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of America, they didn't know that. So the police, largely

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 1>being working that's a step above those poor whites. You see,

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>they have the same mentality. So the best way they

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>could exercise their disgraceful views on the Obama situation was

0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to attack black folks knowing he would do nothing about it.

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Let us be clear, had they knew Obama would speak

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>up and stand up for black folks against the police,

0:49:19.120 --> 0:49:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have got out of hand like that. They

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>knew he would do nothing about it, and one of

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the most cowardly moves of Obama was after Freddie Gray

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.479
<v Speaker 1>had his spine snatched from the back of his skull

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>up in Baltimore the very next week. That's what this

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 1>nigro does, This nigro pion. Barack Obama signs a Blue

0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Shield law that protects police against any type of resistance

0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>from the people that they arrest, making it punishable life

0:49:46.680 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in jail and all this other stuff if you harass

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:53.279
<v Speaker 1>or abuse the police. In other words, a black boy

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>just got killed by the cops. Instead of you making

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>a law to protect the civilians from the police, you

0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>signed to build a protect the police from the civilians.

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>That was Obama's message to white America that I am

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>on your side, not black folks. Once white folks saw

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>that the president of the United States, I mean, let's

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>go to the legal now. The president of the United States,

0:50:13.640 --> 0:50:18.440
<v Speaker 1>according to American jurisprudics, is the chief law enforcement officer

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>in the country. You're follow me. Obama is the commander

0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>in chief of all military forces. The Patriot ach brought

0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the police under the military, So Barack Obama is the

0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>number one cop, and the number one cop won't say

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 1>or do anything about his employees taking the lives of

0:50:35.280 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>our defenseless people, men, women, and children. Obama is the

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>reason that thing got out of control, and our support

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of Obama is the reason they got out of control

0:50:43.760 --> 0:50:46.720
<v Speaker 1>because the power structure said, look, we're letting the police

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.879
<v Speaker 1>kill they people every day. Obama ain't said a word,

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and black folks won't even challenge him on it. Once

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.239
<v Speaker 1>they saw that we would let Obama get away with

0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>the defenseless murders of black folks, they went on.

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you think because I know you were saying that

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:02.120
<v Speaker 2>he had to face criticism, do you think he faced

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 2>any by the time he left from.

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Barack Obama is untouchable. Two people you cannot talk about

0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in our community, White Jesus and Barack Obama. He's untouchable,

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>which is dangerous. You know why, because that means we

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.760
<v Speaker 1>still haven't even learned the lesson that the Obama presidency

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>should have taught us that are black faced on Eco

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:22.640
<v Speaker 1>black power and that white supremacy is white supremacy, irregardless

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of the hand that carries out the agenda, we still

0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:28.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't learned it because we're too emotionally connected to the situation.

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 1>You're not supposed to fall in love with politicians This

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.399
<v Speaker 1>is a big mistake of black folks we fall in

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 1>love with. If you run for mayor of Nashville, guess what.

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:41.320
<v Speaker 1>If I don't like you, I'm not gonna vote for you.

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:43.680
<v Speaker 1>You might have the best economic plan for my people.

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You might have the best plan for the schools. You

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>might have the best plan for the jails. You might

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.040
<v Speaker 1>got the best plans for the homeless. You might got

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:53.920
<v Speaker 1>the blessed best plans for fiscin tendency state. You got

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 1>all the right ideas. But I don't like you. And

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:00.960
<v Speaker 1>because I don't like you, I'm mixing person on what business.

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Look at that? Because I don't like you, even though

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I agree that everything you're saying is right. Because I

0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like you, I won't vote for you. And that

0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>is black people's political immaturity. And it has been haunting

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>us ever since the Civil Rights What do you think

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>that's from. I think a lot of it has to

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 1>do with the way in which black church has evangelized

0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 1>black politics to the point that, remember, it's the pastor

0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>that brings the politician to preach in the church to

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.799
<v Speaker 1>get your vote. Right, that the church claims not to

0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:34.240
<v Speaker 1>be political, but the church is the most political institution

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in the community, because in order to get elected, you

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.160
<v Speaker 1>gotta get endorsed by, oh, the church. So the pastor

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 1>brings the politician in. So you got two pimps sharing

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the pulpit, the pastor and the politician to serve the

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>people up at the voting block, you see. So the

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>church is ran on emotion and imagination. In order to

0:52:54.280 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>be a good pastor, you must be a very good

0:52:57.120 --> 0:53:05.720
<v Speaker 1>communicator of emotion and imagination, you see. So the politician, automatically,

0:53:06.719 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it is being introduced to the black congregation through the pastor.

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 1>That automatically means that the way in which we engage

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>our pastor emotions in imagination, we engage our politician emotion

0:53:19.920 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and imagination with one extra added detriment or side effect,

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and that is the pastor as a representation of God

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:36.960
<v Speaker 1>is beyond reproach, questioning or accountability, you see. And if

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the politician stands next to the pastor, isn't he also

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:48.600
<v Speaker 1>beyond accountability? Exactly, And that's why the two most untouchable

0:53:48.600 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 1>people in the black community is the elected official and

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:54.919
<v Speaker 1>the bishop. So the two people who should be doing

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:59.759
<v Speaker 1>the most are asked to do the least and you.

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Know, like I say, church for me? You know, like

0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I say, like you I've heard.

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.600
<v Speaker 2>You say before, is that they only ask you to

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:09.320
<v Speaker 2>show up and give hope.

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 3>So there's no they don't invote any kind of.

0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 1>No action, no action, Pay and pray. Same thing with

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:22.319
<v Speaker 1>the politician, vote and hope. Preacher, pay and pray, politician,

0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 1>vote and hope. Doctor Umar comes in on the garvy

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:30.879
<v Speaker 1>train and I say, that ain't bad, but if it's

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.439
<v Speaker 1>not couple with action, it is worthless. That ain't bad,

0:54:34.920 --> 0:54:37.319
<v Speaker 1>But if it ain't couple with action, it's worthless. So

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:39.239
<v Speaker 1>this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna still let

0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you pray and pay, and I'm gonna still let you

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:44.840
<v Speaker 1>vote and hope. And once you're done praying and voting,

0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come and do some work. And then the

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.800
<v Speaker 1>pastor and the politician would shoot me down. Mind you,

0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't shoot them down. I said, you can still it,

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 1>goad and when you're done, come see me. Why couldn't

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>they endorse me the way that I endorse them. I'll

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:03.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you why. Because constituency working with me. Okay, excuse me,

0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:07.280
<v Speaker 1>My constituency working with them doesn't put me out of business.

0:55:08.840 --> 0:55:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Their constituency. Working with me puts them out of business

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 1>because guess what, once she get a husband, and once

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.399
<v Speaker 1>he get a job, they ain't coming back to church.

0:55:19.040 --> 0:55:23.200
<v Speaker 1>The church is the hangout for single black women and

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 1>unemployed black males. Once he gets some economic empolierament, his

0:55:27.719 --> 0:55:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Jesus can go home with him. See the pastor depends

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>on poverty to keep his population.

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.000
<v Speaker 3>Now they preach it better than ma.

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>All exception to the black bourgeois churches, because you know,

0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you got the churches where everybody in there make a

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 1>million hours. I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about

0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the masses of Black churches are peopled by the poor.

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>You see, the minute you ain't poor no more, you

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.759
<v Speaker 1>don't need it no more because.

0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.920
<v Speaker 2>You in there and they keep talking about you gonna

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 2>finally make you something whole.

0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Long exactly you're thinking.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>In the politician go out of business too. You know

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:09.080
<v Speaker 1>why sixty Americans vote I'm a political science major forty.

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Don't let me say that again. Half of America don't

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>vote white, rich, poor. Do you know why? I tell

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you why? Poor people know the politicians ain't thinking about them.

0:56:20.920 --> 0:56:24.879
<v Speaker 1>Rich people know we own the politician. The only people

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 1>who vote are middle class and working class. Poor people

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.000
<v Speaker 1>don't matter. Rich people don't care.

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Do you care?

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:37.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you empower black folks economically, guess what, they

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna go vote no more. Or they might, but

0:56:39.480 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it won't be the central tactic in their arsenal of

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:47.000
<v Speaker 1>liberation because they got control of Rich people ain't got

0:56:47.040 --> 0:56:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the vote because they own the politicians. Poor people ain't

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 1>got the vote because they know they don't matter. For

0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Americans don't vote. This is not a democracy.

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>America is not a democracy. First of all, the word

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:01.160
<v Speaker 1>democracy is not in the Constitution. It is not in

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the preamble, it's not in the Declaration, it's not in

0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the Magna carta. What is it in? It's not in

0:57:06.600 --> 0:57:08.839
<v Speaker 1>none of your fifty state constitutions. How did the word

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 1>democracy way out of every Because America is a republic.

0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Democracy is the rule of the majority, This is the

0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.920
<v Speaker 1>rule of law. This is a gangst the operation. Now,

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I think that America is a bank pastor in itself

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:22.080
<v Speaker 1>as a nation.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>The solution, everybody knows the solution. Everybody scared to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Go back in our history. And this brings up the

0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.440
<v Speaker 1>praying and the voting again. By the way, are you

0:57:39.560 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 1>aware that every significant change we got in America we

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:47.840
<v Speaker 1>paid for it in blood. Can you name me one

0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:52.320
<v Speaker 1>significant change in Black America four hundred years now that

0:57:52.360 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you got praying or voting? Can you give me one.

0:57:56.360 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Everything I know came through blood. Civil rights you got

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>out of slavery, blood, Thirteenth Amendment, blood, Fourteenth Amendment. Blood,

0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.160
<v Speaker 1>you had the protests, go to jail, get killed, get

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:12.960
<v Speaker 1>beat up. You understand me. Fifteenth Amendment, blood, civil Rights Bill, blood,

0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Voting Rights Act. Blood, Everything you got you got through blood.

0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:21.280
<v Speaker 1>You can't name me no damn vote that ever changed

0:58:21.280 --> 0:58:24.400
<v Speaker 1>anything for Black America. Let's go to police genocide. Right now,

0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:26.440
<v Speaker 1>we're in the pre campaign season, right Can you name

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:30.600
<v Speaker 1>me the Democratic candidate who has stated on record that

0:58:30.640 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 1>they have a solution to police genocide. Can you name

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 1>me an independent candidate who stated they got a solution

0:58:37.040 --> 0:58:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to police genocide. Can you name a Republican candidate who

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 1>has stated that they have a solution to police genocide? Nope?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you know why because they know, like we

0:58:49.200 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>know what the solution is and you cannot say it

0:58:52.040 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>on TV. The only way Black America is going to

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.840
<v Speaker 1>get the police the back off of killing Black America.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:58:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Is Black America going to have to go to war

0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 1>with police, just like you went the war with the KKK,

0:59:02.360 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 1>just like you went the war with the Confederate soldiers.

0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>They're like you went the war with the police back

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:08.280
<v Speaker 1>in the Black power movement, just like Doctor King and

0:59:08.320 --> 0:59:11.240
<v Speaker 1>then went the war with white racist governments. Even though

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they claim to be non violent. There was nothing non

0:59:13.080 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>violent about the non violent movement because Doctor King faced

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>off with dogs and water holeses and police. There was

0:59:18.480 --> 0:59:22.280
<v Speaker 1>nothing non violent about non violence. You mean, show me

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>where we got anything with our violent confrontation. The only

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 1>way you're gonna stop police genocide. The only solution Black

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.800
<v Speaker 1>men will have to make up their mind, not another

0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>one and the next time there is another one. We

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>got to get our weapons and we got to march

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.439
<v Speaker 1>straight to the police, and we got to face off.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what that means, Just like the Civil War,

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:46.760
<v Speaker 1>mass casualty on each side, mass casualty. I don't want it,

0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.440
<v Speaker 1>You don't want it, but I know that in order

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>for our grandchildren's grandchildren to live free, it has to happen.

0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Until they lose blood. Ours will never stop flowing in

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, I mean because you know you meet force with force, man, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean force force. What did Frederick say, my ancestor, Frederick Douglas.

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<v Speaker 1>Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and

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<v Speaker 1>it never will. He said. The problem with black folks

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<v Speaker 1>is you want rain, but you don't want thunder. You

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<v Speaker 1>want crops, but you don't want to rip up the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>You want the ocean, but you don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the waves. You gotta take the girl with the

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<v Speaker 1>bad What did that turner say? That turner said, when

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<v Speaker 1>the spirit revealed itself to me, it said that this

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<v Speaker 1>you must do, and whether it comes rough or smooth,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it comes rough or smooth, you got to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>However it comes. See that shit so deep like people

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<v Speaker 2>gotta feel that. People have to understand what that means

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<v Speaker 2>and wrap their brain around.

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<v Speaker 1>And the attorney that interviewed them, Tom is Gray. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe he was an attorney. At least he wasn't off

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<v Speaker 1>the He said that, didn't you say God sent you

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<v Speaker 1>this to lead this raid? Nat said yeah, he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, you could download the whole confessions

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<v Speaker 1>online for free and that Turning Confession eighteen thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>times Gray. He said, well, all your homies is lynched.

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<v Speaker 1>They kill Nelson, they kill Hart, they killed saying will

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<v Speaker 1>the execution to kill all your soldiers is killed. They

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<v Speaker 1>lynching black folks all over, saying tout south Ampter count.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, well, doesn't that mean your lord has failed you? Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>That turner looked at him. He said, nah, because even

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ had to be crucified.

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<v Speaker 4>Facts.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that fact, even to the day that he

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<v Speaker 1>died that turn. And then when they took that turn

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<v Speaker 1>across the street to get lynched, they said, do you

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<v Speaker 1>have anything you want to say? That turner said, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>hurry up and get on with it. And they said

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<v Speaker 1>when they put the noose around that turning neck, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't show no fear, his body to even shake. He

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<v Speaker 1>was as you talk about ronins, He said, even Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>had to be crucis by that. Where was that turn

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Jerusalem Virginia? Wow, Jerusalem Virja that black Christ

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<v Speaker 1>man black, the real black Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>That's some deep shit.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day, my mother and I was watching the

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<v Speaker 1>movie three hundred. You saw three hundred, Yeah, the Athenians

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<v Speaker 1>and the Greeks. Right, Leonidas took three hundred soldiers to

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<v Speaker 1>go meet that damn a rap that was running the

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<v Speaker 1>world at the time. Darius, who I'm watching that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I said to myself, I said, this

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<v Speaker 1>ain't about no damn Greeks. I said, this is not Turner. Mmm,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not Turner. With no more than sixty taking

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<v Speaker 1>on the entire United States government, he said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for no vote. I'm not waiting for Jesus. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not waiting for no damn reparations. I'm not waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. My people are gonna be free. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>See that that Turner said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he wasn't gone now he went with it.

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<v Speaker 1>He went with it and eighteen thirty one. Just picture

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<v Speaker 1>that eighteen thirty one man minu. He was born eighteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days after that Turner was born, they lynched

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<v Speaker 1>Gabriel Prosser. Remember Gabel Prissa was going to lead the

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<v Speaker 1>largest slavery vote ever known Richmond, Virginia. He got snitched

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<v Speaker 1>out two coons. He got snitched out by two coons,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eighteen twenty two, nine years before that Turner,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Denmark Vezi down in Charston, South Carolina. His

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be even bigger than Gables got snitched

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<v Speaker 1>out by two coons that Turner. Nat Turner, seeing this, said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell too many people, right because these coons

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<v Speaker 1>is loyal to their master. So he only told those

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson hark Sam this four or five. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>brought the other ones in and the baddest soldier he

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<v Speaker 1>had was Will, the executioner. Will wasn't playing. Remember, Nat

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<v Speaker 1>Turner was agree what will strike first death? He had

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<v Speaker 1>to go kill his master first assistance. You're the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to prove your loyalty, strike first death. That

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<v Speaker 1>Turner hit him. He didn't die before he could even

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<v Speaker 1>say nothing. Will came with the battle acts crack crack,

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<v Speaker 1>and mind you. Will wasn't even one of the originals,

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<v Speaker 1>but Will ended up being the main one. Will was

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<v Speaker 1>no joke getting at it. Bill wasn't no joke.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why they don't talk about him.

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<v Speaker 1>As much, that Turner because Nat Turner and Marcus Gorvey

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<v Speaker 1>are very dangerous, because that Turner shows what a true

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<v Speaker 1>Christian man will do for his people if he really

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<v Speaker 1>believe in christ See, they don't need that in black

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<v Speaker 1>church because if you go take because remember now that

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<v Speaker 1>Turney was a pastor, so you go to the Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Turner was a pastor of the church. So you go

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<v Speaker 1>take that Turner, you say, pastor. Look what this man

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<v Speaker 1>did in eighteen thirty one. We wasn't even considered people

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<v Speaker 1>yet what you didn't that oh Ahn, Turner's example exposes

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Christian Church. And then Garvey example. He the

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<v Speaker 1>only significant Black leader we had after slavery who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>use religion period period. Everybody gave you religion except Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>gov He said, this ain't no religion, This ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be no Muslim thing, this ain't gonna be no Christian thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be an African thing. And his movement is

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that included black people in every continent.

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<v Speaker 1>Garvey is the only leader in modern history who you

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<v Speaker 1>can say was actually leader of the race because every

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<v Speaker 1>significant population of blacks in the world was represented in

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<v Speaker 1>the Garvy movement. That's not true for nobody after God,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody global leader of African people without a single penny

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<v Speaker 1>from white folks. He buying ships Black Star line over

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<v Speaker 1>here black star line, no money from white folks. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the members came to him said, mister Gove, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a rich white man, he would have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>He believes on what you're trying to do. Marcus Garvey said,

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<v Speaker 1>he tell them to keep his money. This a black

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<v Speaker 1>man's movement. We never took a penny from another race.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong man, boy, he was a man now down here

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<v Speaker 2>just speaking about police Geniside. We had a guy here,

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel hambrig all right, p Daniel. He the police killed him, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he jumps out of what they say was a

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<v Speaker 2>stolen vehicle and he's running and I would say he's

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty feet from the police officer. The police officer

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<v Speaker 2>now makes a decision to say, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>This young man's fast.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't catch him, pull his guns out,

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<v Speaker 2>and he murders him, shoots.

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<v Speaker 3>Him in the back as he's running, shoots him. Boom boom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just socially relevant.

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<v Speaker 2>There needs to be some structure where that's automatically attended

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<v Speaker 2>to as a priority item.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, separate from yes your music. Yes, as a black

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<v Speaker 1>man or woman. I'm glad you mentioned these names. Mick Mill,

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian because as you know, mik and Jay got the

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<v Speaker 1>criminal reform thing they working on, right, Kardashian is running

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<v Speaker 1>around with her little I love Black people and want

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<v Speaker 1>to get him out of jail movement. Here's what we

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<v Speaker 1>got to pay attention to. First of all, with Jay

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<v Speaker 1>and Meek, it is my hope that they focus on

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<v Speaker 1>systematic change as opposed to what Kardashian is doing. What

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<v Speaker 1>Kardashian is doing is what white folks do all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>They never attack the causes of the problem. They only

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<v Speaker 1>deal with symptoms. So Kardashian runs around and she'll get

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<v Speaker 1>that grandmother out, thank you. I'm glad she's out. She'll

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<v Speaker 1>go get that woman out, thank you. I'm glad she's out.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're symptoms of the problem. They're not the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the consequences of the problem. What are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to do to systematically change the law, the process system

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<v Speaker 1>so this won't happen again? Absolutely nothing. And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>Meek milder his face, I tell jay Z to their face,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like them both. I support both brothers. If

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<v Speaker 1>y'all do the Kardashian thing, I'm gonna bring you as

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<v Speaker 1>a hypocrite in the phony don't tell me that you're

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<v Speaker 1>helping individuals get out of jail to the exclusion of

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<v Speaker 1>systematic change in the criminal justices. I give you an

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<v Speaker 1>example with Barack Obama his last year in office. What

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<v Speaker 1>do Obama do. He commuted the sentence of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>people in jail, sorry, letting them out, black white. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad they got out, but please don't be distracted by

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that Obama did nothing to systematically change the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So that don't happen again, because guess what. That grandmom

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<v Speaker 1>that Kardashian got out because she didn't change the system,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be ten grandmothers to replace her. That young sister

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<v Speaker 1>that Kardashian got out because she didn't change the system,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be thirty more systems to replace. If Meek and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay are going to follow the Kardashian snunt of dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with individuals but not systems, individuals but not systems. Individuals

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<v Speaker 1>were not systems, then guess what. Every brother you get

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail will be replaced with one hundred more.

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<v Speaker 1>Every person Obama let out his last year of office

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<v Speaker 1>with those commuted sentences, they've already been replaced by hundreds more.

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<v Speaker 1>Never let nobody play games with your intelligence enough to

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<v Speaker 1>make you think that progress has been made because one

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<v Speaker 1>or two people got out of jail. See, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>same logic that America uses when Black people say we're

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<v Speaker 1>economically devastated. America will say, well, wait a minute, you

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<v Speaker 1>got jay Z, you got Bill Cosby, you got Tyler Perry.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are individuals, and you don't judge progress for a

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<v Speaker 1>people based on individuals in the own. Only reason why

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<v Speaker 1>they get away doing that with black folks is because

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<v Speaker 1>we are so individualistic that we don't care about the group.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't care about teamwork, We're not interested in the collective.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can run that hustle on us because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I don't care about him

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<v Speaker 1>or her. I only care about me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's the real thing. That's definitely a real thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I look at you know, Meek and Jay,

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<v Speaker 2>and even with Jay doing this whole NFL deals, he's

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<v Speaker 2>facing a lot of backlash about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you my I haven't looked at it intensively yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I will, But here's my early position. My early position

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<v Speaker 1>is simply this jay Z has done more than most

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream rappers put together. When it comes to issues of

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<v Speaker 1>social justice the califhe brought a documentary. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 1>including that right, okay, But I do know that when

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<v Speaker 1>the protesters and the activist was arrested on the Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Brown in the aftermath of the Michael Brown assassination, he

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<v Speaker 1>paid for them to get out. When they was arrested

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<v Speaker 1>in the aftermath of the Freddie Gray situation, he paid

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<v Speaker 1>for them to get out. I've seen where he's went

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<v Speaker 1>to Africa and helped finance certain types of infrastructure in

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<v Speaker 1>the villages. Did he do everything? No? Did he do

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<v Speaker 1>enough given his economic position? Maybe not, But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say he won't. I recognize that where jay z

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<v Speaker 1>is on the economic economic totem poles, he cannot move

1:11:34.160 --> 1:11:37.000
<v Speaker 1>as freely as you. You might, can't move as freely

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<v Speaker 1>as me, you understand. So you have to respect where

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<v Speaker 1>people are in their personal journey and not superimpose your

1:11:46.880 --> 1:11:49.800
<v Speaker 1>value system on them. It's no different than if a

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<v Speaker 1>sister walked in here with a blind wig on her head,

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<v Speaker 1>she knows. I don't agree with that. I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. If a brother came in here with

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<v Speaker 1>his white wife, he knows I don't agree. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>got to say it, but the fact that she wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to interview me, says she trying. The fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>came in here with his white girlfriend. It said, Doc,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you don't agree with this, but I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta respect people when they try.

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<v Speaker 2>And my whole thing with Jay is, like I told

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<v Speaker 2>my friends and a couple of guys when I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking in the studio last night, I'm like to have

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars to be a billion dollar guy.

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<v Speaker 1>A billion dollar black man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, black black man. He's the only person you're gonna ever.

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<v Speaker 1>See do anything, do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you'll never see nobody else do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You will never see.

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<v Speaker 3>So for me and I don't speak on things until,

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<v Speaker 3>like I say, they play out.

1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:43.759
<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I'm gonna give this guy the benefit

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<v Speaker 2>of the doubt for a seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the what I said, and I don't know if

1:12:47.120 --> 1:12:49.479
<v Speaker 1>this is his thinking or not, but what I said is,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you know he ain't trying to get in

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<v Speaker 1>here to finally get one of these NFL teams? Because

1:12:55.360 --> 1:12:57.280
<v Speaker 1>from what I understand, we don't have a black NFL

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<v Speaker 1>owner at all. What if he trying to be the

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<v Speaker 1>first and if he becomes that maybe he'll give Captaine

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<v Speaker 1>his job back while he's still got a couple of

1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:08.120
<v Speaker 1>good years. You don't know the man's strategy. And our problem,

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<v Speaker 1>as the people you saw with me with the school,

1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:14.519
<v Speaker 1>is we want to know publicly, right now, publicly, we

1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.120
<v Speaker 1>want to know on you too, We want to know

1:13:16.160 --> 1:13:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook are controlled by the enemy. We want you

1:13:20.160 --> 1:13:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to tell us publicly what your plans are. You damn fool.

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<v Speaker 1>If I tell you what my plan are, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be destroyed before if jay Z told you what he

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<v Speaker 1>was really up to, he'd never get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>implement it. See, we got to recognize something. What a

1:13:37.800 --> 1:13:41.880
<v Speaker 1>leader says to the media may not be the same

1:13:41.920 --> 1:13:45.200
<v Speaker 1>message he shares with you. It doesn't mean he sold

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<v Speaker 1>out to the media. It's meaning he's thinking strategically because

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<v Speaker 1>he has to protect his agenda and if he opens

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<v Speaker 1>up the agenda. The art of war is deception. The

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<v Speaker 1>art of war is deception. You must deceive your enemy

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<v Speaker 1>until your chief the victory. I give you a quick case,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor King. A lot of people don't know this. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that doctor King didn't believe in non violence?

1:14:12.000 --> 1:14:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Martin Luther King Junior did not believe in non violence.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what they did. They went to Pennsylvania and

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<v Speaker 1>got Bayard Rusting from Chester, PA. My neckad was and

1:14:24.800 --> 1:14:30.600
<v Speaker 1>brought him down to Alabama and said, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>convince him that non violence is the way we got

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<v Speaker 1>to promote this question. King was not Ford. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>these crackers will never been to it. Bayard Ruster said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do it any other way, you can get killed.

1:14:46.000 --> 1:14:50.160
<v Speaker 1>King said, I'm going to do this because strategically it's

1:14:50.160 --> 1:14:52.600
<v Speaker 1>the best way to go, not because I believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't even know. Non violence wasn't doctor King's idea.

1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>That was Bayard Rustling. King said, y'all crazy, ill brought

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<v Speaker 1>me from Atlanta. And guess what. The entire time, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time the Southern Christian Leadership Conference had a stockade

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<v Speaker 1>of weapons. Wow, because they thought that they would come

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<v Speaker 1>a day where the non violence would break down. Yeah, strategy,

1:15:21.920 --> 1:15:24.439
<v Speaker 1>our people want you to be so a matter of

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<v Speaker 1>factly in public, it's crazy. Give the enemy your whole

1:15:29.160 --> 1:15:31.840
<v Speaker 1>plan to pacify a couple.

1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:36.439
<v Speaker 2>Yet you anywhere, I ain't gonna do nothing but clap

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<v Speaker 2>twice and go something else. And and and the crazy

1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:42.639
<v Speaker 2>thing is we are so like you said, we're searching

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<v Speaker 2>for man, and I don't know if any other race

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<v Speaker 2>does this man.

1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:49.040
<v Speaker 3>When we finally get a guy like a jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Z, or like a Oumar, or like anyone that's in

1:15:52.880 --> 1:15:57.360
<v Speaker 2>a position to be looked at its doing right or

1:15:57.479 --> 1:16:02.519
<v Speaker 2>good or for us. We searched that room for a

1:16:02.560 --> 1:16:06.680
<v Speaker 2>dirty sock man. They searched that fucking room for a

1:16:06.920 --> 1:16:09.720
<v Speaker 2>dirty And why do they search the room for the

1:16:09.760 --> 1:16:13.599
<v Speaker 2>dirty sock? Part of it is self hate because they

1:16:13.640 --> 1:16:16.439
<v Speaker 2>need to assassinate your character. But why do they need

1:16:16.439 --> 1:16:18.599
<v Speaker 2>to assassinate your character in addition to the self hate,

1:16:19.000 --> 1:16:22.880
<v Speaker 2>because they need to be able to live with themselves

1:16:23.680 --> 1:16:26.320
<v Speaker 2>for not following you. They need to be able to

1:16:26.560 --> 1:16:29.760
<v Speaker 2>justify why they didn't get behind you. They have to

1:16:29.760 --> 1:16:33.160
<v Speaker 2>be able to explain to their children and family and friends,

1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:35.720
<v Speaker 2>why you did not support this brother who is doing

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<v Speaker 2>something good for the people. They did it with doctor King,

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<v Speaker 2>all the negroes who were scared to march against the police.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he cheated on his wife. You know why they

1:16:45.680 --> 1:16:48.400
<v Speaker 1>felt it wasn't It wasn't just the satisfied, the appetite

1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to destroy the character of another black man. They needed

1:16:51.040 --> 1:16:55.599
<v Speaker 1>an excuse to justify their lack of participation. The reason

1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:57.200
<v Speaker 1>they need to find fault with me. They need an

1:16:57.240 --> 1:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>excuse why they don't donate to the school. You see

1:16:59.880 --> 1:17:03.360
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It ain't just about making you look bad.

1:17:04.080 --> 1:17:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Making you look bad helps me defend the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>That I did not suppen my position right right, And

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<v Speaker 2>so with even with jay I'm like, yo, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Just chill. You gotta see it through.

1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:19.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And the coach is saying, oh my god, look

1:17:19.680 --> 1:17:20.200
<v Speaker 3>what he did.

1:17:20.280 --> 1:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>The first thing he done, he came out like because

1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:25.960
<v Speaker 2>now they said, well, he's selling T shirts and selling something.

1:17:26.479 --> 1:17:32.719
<v Speaker 2>My thought is, okay, the first thing you need is capital, yes, so.

1:17:33.439 --> 1:17:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And not only that, I'm looking to see how many

1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:37.519
<v Speaker 1>jobs are being made for black folks off of that,

1:17:37.560 --> 1:17:40.080
<v Speaker 1>because y'all want to watch the games anyway, And the

1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>same people condemning jay Z at home watching NFL games.

1:17:43.840 --> 1:17:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Right every Sunday.

1:17:45.240 --> 1:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>And it's the craziest stuff. So I hope and I

1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:50.000
<v Speaker 2>pray that jay Z does the right thing.

1:17:50.040 --> 1:17:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Again. It's a track record, so we're gonna give him

1:17:52.800 --> 1:17:53.280
<v Speaker 3>the benefit.

1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Got to give him time to operate right now. Once

1:17:57.160 --> 1:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this NFL scheme is over, I can judge him in

1:18:01.040 --> 1:18:04.479
<v Speaker 1>hindsight because he's done. But as long as he's in it,

1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I got to see it through. And we are too

1:18:07.040 --> 1:18:10.160
<v Speaker 1>quick to condemn and criticize black folks, but we will

1:18:10.200 --> 1:18:13.519
<v Speaker 1>give white folks a million chances. We've been giving them

1:18:13.600 --> 1:18:16.240
<v Speaker 1>chances for four hundred years and we still got four

1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:19.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred more years chances for wife, But we won't even

1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.679
<v Speaker 1>give a brother by half a chance. Him and Beyonce

1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:25.320
<v Speaker 1>when she stood up and did that tribute to the

1:18:25.360 --> 1:18:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Black Panthers at the Super Bowl, she did that on

1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:31.640
<v Speaker 1>the anniversary of the Black Panthers. I said, if she

1:18:31.720 --> 1:18:34.080
<v Speaker 1>don't do another thing for ten years, I didn't say

1:18:34.080 --> 1:18:37.200
<v Speaker 1>another thing, fa But for a couple of years she

1:18:37.400 --> 1:18:39.360
<v Speaker 1>good with me because half of them would have never

1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>even thought of him, they would have done so J.

1:18:42.200 --> 1:18:45.200
<v Speaker 3>And B cool with me, and with Kanye and Kim,

1:18:45.240 --> 1:18:46.559
<v Speaker 3>with Kim doing her, you.

1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Know, getting this guy that guy, this guy Kanye man,

1:18:50.040 --> 1:18:53.479
<v Speaker 2>he had a flip. And I think with you always

1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:57.560
<v Speaker 2>speaking about like medication and ADHD.

1:18:57.040 --> 1:18:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I hope he ain't on meds, but I think he

1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:02.519
<v Speaker 1>is the meds taking say if Kanye is on meds,

1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:08.800
<v Speaker 1>If Kanye is on meds, those and he's probably antipsychotics.

1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:13.240
<v Speaker 3>Mood stabilized antidepression kills.

1:19:13.120 --> 1:19:18.520
<v Speaker 1>The section of your brain responsible for ingenuity and creativity.

1:19:18.520 --> 1:19:21.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what he imagine. It's no different you and the music.

1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I know you probably can think of a couple of

1:19:23.600 --> 1:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>brothers local or or main who do smoke so much wheat.

1:19:28.400 --> 1:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Then you didn't cook that part of your brain that

1:19:36.200 --> 1:19:40.519
<v Speaker 1>gave you that wordplay. And they you see him, they're

1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to like it's done. So I don't know what

1:19:42.439 --> 1:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>happened to his done. Y'all smoked it away. You gotta

1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:48.559
<v Speaker 1>protect your brain and you gotta protect your balls because

1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:49.320
<v Speaker 1>you only get one of you.

1:19:49.479 --> 1:19:51.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so he.

1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, with him, uh, it was a moment

1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:55.800
<v Speaker 2>where he was on his maize and when he said

1:19:55.840 --> 1:19:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the slavery was a choice thing and all that.

1:19:58.400 --> 1:20:00.719
<v Speaker 1>All that might have been mad wry about the medication.

1:20:00.760 --> 1:20:01.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why didn't pay it no mind.

1:20:01.800 --> 1:20:04.680
<v Speaker 3>That's what it was. But he said that at that

1:20:04.920 --> 1:20:06.880
<v Speaker 3>time he was office meds.

1:20:07.160 --> 1:20:09.360
<v Speaker 2>So he had made a conscious decision to be like,

1:20:09.439 --> 1:20:15.200
<v Speaker 2>hold on, they're like, I'm getting fat, I'm no longer myself.

1:20:15.680 --> 1:20:19.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting off of this shit. So he stopped taking it. Now,

1:20:19.520 --> 1:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>what that does is fire back up those.

1:20:22.200 --> 1:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's called a rebound effect where everything that you

1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:29.120
<v Speaker 1>experienced before you took the met comes back fifty times stronger.

1:20:29.520 --> 1:20:32.320
<v Speaker 3>So now he's just blurting shit out. It's not articulating.

1:20:32.479 --> 1:20:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Good. He remember what the meds do. All psychotic mans,

1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:40.519
<v Speaker 1>psychiatric meds are designed to force the brain to do

1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:44.160
<v Speaker 1>against your conscious will. So you take a boy with

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:46.639
<v Speaker 1>so called ADHD, which is a joke which we're gonna

1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:52.559
<v Speaker 1>be talking about tomorrow. He's choosing to be hyper. He

1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:55.400
<v Speaker 1>can sit down if he wants. He likes what he's doing, right,

1:20:56.920 --> 1:21:00.559
<v Speaker 1>because he won't make the conscious decision to sit his

1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.559
<v Speaker 1>ass down. You gonna give him a pill that's gonna

1:21:03.640 --> 1:21:06.120
<v Speaker 1>sit him. That's gonna sit him down, whether he wants

1:21:06.120 --> 1:21:08.479
<v Speaker 1>to or not. Do you see what you're doing. You

1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:12.439
<v Speaker 1>are eroding his executive function. Executive functions are the aspects

1:21:12.520 --> 1:21:15.400
<v Speaker 1>of consciousness that allow us to control when we slabbery,

1:21:15.400 --> 1:21:19.360
<v Speaker 1>when we chew, when we urinate. You know, it erodes that.

1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>So once your executive functions have been taken away from

1:21:22.280 --> 1:21:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you too often, you're no longer in control of yourself.

1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:28.200
<v Speaker 1>It's the pill, you see, So you're saying stuff you

1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:31.400
<v Speaker 1>don't mean. You're slibbing out the mouth, don't even know what.

1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:34.519
<v Speaker 1>You're peeing on yourself, you defecate. That's where that comes from.

1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Because the pill, basically shutting the pill steals your liberation.

1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>In other words, the pill introduces slavery on a neurobiological level.

1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Now no longer physical slave to white supremacy, You're a

1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>neurobiological slave to whites. The chemical is the handcuff. The

1:21:55.320 --> 1:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>chemical is the handcuff.

1:21:57.800 --> 1:22:00.760
<v Speaker 3>So how do they My thing is how do they

1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:02.960
<v Speaker 3>get that shit to the kids, Because.

1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:05.519
<v Speaker 2>If it could affect that Kanye Wesz thirty some odd

1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:08.559
<v Speaker 2>years old, forty some are years old in that way,

1:22:09.479 --> 1:22:11.439
<v Speaker 2>what what is that medicine doing.

1:22:11.360 --> 1:22:13.000
<v Speaker 3>To a nine year old?

1:22:13.040 --> 1:22:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I've seen them give it to I think the young Yeah,

1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:17.880
<v Speaker 2>six two year olds.

1:22:17.920 --> 1:22:20.519
<v Speaker 1>It's like I don't care. Yeah, it's all about money.

1:22:20.520 --> 1:22:22.599
<v Speaker 1>First of all, because all the drugs are publicly traded

1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:25.120
<v Speaker 1>in New York Wall Street. Right, Remember early when I

1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:27.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about that Timeline CIA dropped off the crack in

1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty, Well, guess what. The American Psychiatric Association dropped

1:22:30.880 --> 1:22:34.400
<v Speaker 1>off a d D nineteen eighty same year, same year,

1:22:34.680 --> 1:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and they started drugging the adults, they started drugging up

1:22:36.760 --> 1:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>the kids at the same time. You see. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>all done with parent permission though. See, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get the pills, you need to evaluation, or to get

1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the evaluation, you need the parents signature. Parent don't sign

1:22:47.040 --> 1:22:50.360
<v Speaker 1>no pills, no evil. So we are complicit because we

1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:52.479
<v Speaker 1>are doing what these white folks tell us to do.

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<v Speaker 1>When somebody comes to you and say, get your child

1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:56.080
<v Speaker 1>to evaluated for eightyh to, your answer should be no.

1:22:56.280 --> 1:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>And they're gonna say why not. They're gonna say, number one,

1:22:58.000 --> 1:22:59.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to explain to you because I'm the parent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they need to stop right there, right there,

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm the parent, that's why not. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go further eighty HD don't exist. It's a

1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:09.559
<v Speaker 1>damn joke. You want to go furthermore, I'm not giving

1:23:09.560 --> 1:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>my child drugs. And that's the only solution y'all got. See,

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<v Speaker 1>That's where I come in at. Do you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>crack for kids? Because if you don't believe crack for kids,

1:23:19.280 --> 1:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>you don't believe in ADHD. Because once you get the label,

1:23:22.760 --> 1:23:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the only option is the dope. That's that. And then

1:23:27.080 --> 1:23:28.559
<v Speaker 1>I get parents who say, well, I just wanted to

1:23:28.600 --> 1:23:30.800
<v Speaker 1>see if he had it, then not just tell you

1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>it don't exist. They can't prove it. They can't.

1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:36.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a thrust an idea.

1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:39.000
<v Speaker 1>It's an idea made real by the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>decided to medicate your child.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now with that being said, I know some women

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<v Speaker 2>right because of the economic struction with the black men

1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>not being able to provide in certain circumstances, I've seen

1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>women with four and five children basically take a child

1:23:58.320 --> 1:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>or two and look at that as a pay chick.

1:24:01.280 --> 1:24:03.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, and that's true. They exploit the child for Social

1:24:03.920 --> 1:24:09.240
<v Speaker 1>Security supplemental disability income. But guess what, she still ain't

1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:12.360
<v Speaker 1>the problem. She is symptom. You know why because if

1:24:12.400 --> 1:24:16.320
<v Speaker 1>doctor Umar Johnson, a certified school psychologist, never diagnosed her

1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>son with that most she couldn't do it, said, if

1:24:19.880 --> 1:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>somebody gave her a label, you see, so she's still

1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a symptom. And what the system does is they'll try

1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:27.120
<v Speaker 1>to turn the sister into the problem and say where

1:24:27.120 --> 1:24:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they auctioning their kids off of checks? Okay, they are

1:24:30.040 --> 1:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>some of them, but guess what could they do that

1:24:33.120 --> 1:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>if you're psychologists, then auction them off first with a

1:24:36.560 --> 1:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>diagnosis that ain't real exactly. Primary responsibility, secondary responsibility.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're gonna wrap up in just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this. What's that the book of

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<v Speaker 2>the diagnosis m.

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<v Speaker 1>D s M five.

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<v Speaker 3>You said pedophilia was pedophilia.

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<v Speaker 1>Check this out. When they first came out with the

1:24:57.080 --> 1:24:59.559
<v Speaker 1>d s M five about two years ago, a year

1:24:59.640 --> 1:25:03.759
<v Speaker 1>or two, right, it came out where pedophilia was listed

1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>as a sexual orientation. Some white person saw it and

1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:12.759
<v Speaker 1>sounded the alarm, and then the spokesperson for the American

1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Psychiatric Association came back and said, we made a tipographical error.

1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Do you see that? Did you see that? They tried

1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:23.559
<v Speaker 1>to get away with it till somebody called it. Then

1:25:23.600 --> 1:25:30.880
<v Speaker 1>they fixed it. But according to the DSM, pedophilia Okay,

1:25:31.200 --> 1:25:34.559
<v Speaker 1>if the child is sixteen is not pedophilia. They're already

1:25:34.760 --> 1:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>legalizing pedophia. Yeah, and if the child is thirteen or fourteen,

1:25:37.640 --> 1:25:39.559
<v Speaker 1>a person got to be at least four years older

1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:44.960
<v Speaker 1>than them. Yeah, yeah, pedophilia, if memory serves me correctly.

1:25:45.000 --> 1:25:46.640
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't bring my DSM with me, and I

1:25:46.680 --> 1:25:50.400
<v Speaker 1>should have, I believe right now The DSM defines pedophilia

1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:54.720
<v Speaker 1>as sexual attraction to pre pubescent children. Did you hear

1:25:54.760 --> 1:25:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that pre pubescent? So do you know what that means?

1:25:58.360 --> 1:26:01.920
<v Speaker 1>If your daughter going through puberty and she might be thirteen,

1:26:02.439 --> 1:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>she might be fourteen, but if she going through puberty

1:26:05.360 --> 1:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a pedophilly. They already legalizing in my opinion, and they

1:26:10.160 --> 1:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>not done. They're going to keep on legalizing it because

1:26:12.200 --> 1:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you got the organization of North American Association for Man

1:26:14.920 --> 1:26:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and Boy Love. Look it up on the internet. North

1:26:17.840 --> 1:26:20.840
<v Speaker 1>American Association for Man and Boy Love.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to show they move.

1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:25.040
<v Speaker 1>They said it should be an orientation, it should not

1:26:25.040 --> 1:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>be mental illness. I told people it was coming. You

1:26:27.720 --> 1:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta remember now, the same way people looking at pedophilia

1:26:30.880 --> 1:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>today is how they looked at homosexuality in the nineteen seventy.

1:26:34.360 --> 1:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Homosexuality was a mental disorder in nineteen seventy, and they

1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:40.200
<v Speaker 1>took it out in seventy four seventy five. People thought

1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that would never happen, and it legal today. I promise

1:26:43.120 --> 1:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>you pedophilia will be totally legal in the next ten

1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:45.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's date. That's date.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a cultural is a cultural genocide, not just physical.

1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>They hitting us everywhere. It's a because they coming to

1:26:57.000 --> 1:26:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you and say, listen, we know this ain't how Africans live.

1:27:00.120 --> 1:27:03.599
<v Speaker 1>This is how we do it. And don't get me wrong,

1:27:04.000 --> 1:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>most white folks I don't believe agree with it either,

1:27:07.320 --> 1:27:09.759
<v Speaker 1>but it is still nonetheless a product of their cultural heritage.

1:27:09.840 --> 1:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Greco Roman culture, that's where it came from. Every philosopher

1:27:12.680 --> 1:27:15.920
<v Speaker 1>was a homosexual. Plato, Aristotle Epictedtus, that's what they was

1:27:15.920 --> 1:27:18.559
<v Speaker 1>in Roman Catholic Church viewed the women as less than clean.

1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why they preachers don't get married. So there has

1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>always been a disdain for the female energy in European culture,

1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:27.559
<v Speaker 1>not an African culture. You come to our culture, okay,

1:27:27.840 --> 1:27:30.400
<v Speaker 1>we believe in equal The man can't survive without the woman.

1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>In our culture, the woman is given such a position

1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:34.639
<v Speaker 1>that when you become the king, you have a queen

1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>mother who can unseat you if you don't do your

1:27:36.800 --> 1:27:39.400
<v Speaker 1>job right. You look at our deities, Look at most

1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:42.080
<v Speaker 1>of the masculine deities. They are born of a feminine

1:27:42.120 --> 1:27:44.840
<v Speaker 1>mother who gives them the right to have that power.

1:27:44.960 --> 1:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Which is why an African culture, whatever it is, the queen.

1:27:46.880 --> 1:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>You see the queen mother over there, because feminine energy

1:27:49.439 --> 1:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>was first. God created feminine energy first and then he

1:27:53.439 --> 1:27:57.839
<v Speaker 1>introduced the male. So we never had no gay because

1:27:57.920 --> 1:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point, homosexual that can be considered a

1:28:02.040 --> 1:28:06.120
<v Speaker 1>total rejection of feminine energy. Lesbianism can be considered a

1:28:06.160 --> 1:28:10.519
<v Speaker 1>total rejection of masculine energy. At the basic non sexual level,

1:28:10.840 --> 1:28:13.160
<v Speaker 1>it is a rejection of your opposite. Well, that's a

1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>big problem for African people because we believe in a

1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:18.400
<v Speaker 1>balance of all things. That's our culture. For the for

1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>light that's dark, for the sun is the moon, for

1:28:21.320 --> 1:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>what it is the land for the yen is the

1:28:23.320 --> 1:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>yang for the man, for the woman. And if that

1:28:25.360 --> 1:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>is the essential building block of creation, if you disturb that,

1:28:29.400 --> 1:28:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you disturb the entire universal order. That's why we oppose

1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>to homosexuality. But we can still love the homosexual facts facts.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact man, Like I say, this has been This has

1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>been a very great interview.

1:28:41.640 --> 1:28:45.160
<v Speaker 3>Man. I really appreciate you coming by anything you want

1:28:45.160 --> 1:28:45.759
<v Speaker 3>to lead to people.

1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for the people out there, get in contact with

1:28:49.160 --> 1:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>doctor Umar Johnson, doctor Umar Johnson dot com. I got

1:28:52.800 --> 1:28:55.599
<v Speaker 1>a new podcast site. Only one podcast is up right

1:28:55.640 --> 1:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>now on ADHD and that's Unapologetically African dot com and

1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of course we spelled Africa with a K. Donate to

1:29:02.920 --> 1:29:05.120
<v Speaker 1>the school. Please donate to the school. We're trying to

1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:07.479
<v Speaker 1>raise a million dollars to get the school ready. I

1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:11.000
<v Speaker 1>would love for next school year. You can donate mail

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<v Speaker 1>your check of money or the payable two f DMG

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<v Speaker 1>Academy p O Box ninety six thirty four, Wilmington, Delaware.

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<v Speaker 1>I repeat fd MG Academy p O Box ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four, Wilmington, Delaware, one nine eight o nine. If

1:29:26.280 --> 1:29:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you ever need to talk to me, you need a

1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>consultation about your child education or mental health is what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. You can reach me at eight four four

1:29:33.560 --> 1:29:36.719
<v Speaker 1>four doctor Umar. That's eight four four four doctor Umar

1:29:37.120 --> 1:29:39.639
<v Speaker 1>or doctor Umar Johnson at yahoo dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And before we go, I want to say congratulations on

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<v Speaker 3>the school.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it February seventh, seven days before Frederick douglas birth. Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might have shifted that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I saw Before we go, I

1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you about this.

1:29:56.040 --> 1:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>The family of him says.

1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:01.200
<v Speaker 1>That was not the family. It was from Roland Martin

1:30:01.280 --> 1:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>when he read that letter. That was not from the family.

1:30:04.840 --> 1:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>That letter came from one coon in the family. Who

1:30:08.320 --> 1:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't occupy any official position with the family. He's just

1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:15.760
<v Speaker 1>a jealous negro, period, that's it. Who said that I

1:30:15.800 --> 1:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>wasn't related to Frederick Douglas. I'm not even mad at him,

1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm disappointed in every other member of

1:30:22.240 --> 1:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the family. I've been to the family reunions. Y'all know

1:30:25.760 --> 1:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>my name is on the tree. You understand. Any one

1:30:28.760 --> 1:30:30.719
<v Speaker 1>of them could have called him up and say, brother,

1:30:31.439 --> 1:30:33.680
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. You know it, like we know.

1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:36.240
<v Speaker 3>That's still tearing at you, still pulling at.

1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Somebody because a lot of them don't agree with my

1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:43.719
<v Speaker 1>political views, that they let him go at me, you understand.

1:30:44.160 --> 1:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I don't go to no more family

1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>reunions no more, because I'm like, any one of y'all

1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:50.559
<v Speaker 1>could have stopped that, and y'all chose not to.

1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:53.360
<v Speaker 3>So I'm done with it, and you'd allowed his voice

1:30:53.400 --> 1:30:53.760
<v Speaker 3>for they.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but that's the jealousy. Because here here's my thing.

1:30:59.000 --> 1:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm related to Frederick Douglass. Bob blood by Blood, the

1:31:02.880 --> 1:31:05.719
<v Speaker 1>woman and man that raised him, Betsy and Isaac Belly.

1:31:06.160 --> 1:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Those are my grandparents like his They his first grandparents.

1:31:09.640 --> 1:31:13.960
<v Speaker 1>They're my seventh grandparents. But we come from the same loins.

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<v Speaker 1>I rep Garvey. Well, most people think of Marcus Garvey,

1:31:18.000 --> 1:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>they think of me. Does that upset that's from Marcus

1:31:21.080 --> 1:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Garvey Jr. His son? No? Does that upset doctor Julius

1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Garvey his other son. No. They love the fact that

1:31:28.880 --> 1:31:31.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm keeping their father's legacy alive. They ain't never settle

1:31:31.800 --> 1:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>he don't speak for my father. But here I am

1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:38.639
<v Speaker 1>related to Frederick that blood and you got Nigros hating,

1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But the Garvey family don't do that. I ran into

1:31:42.360 --> 1:31:47.479
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Garvey's cousin in Austin, Texas. He couldn't wait to

1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:48.839
<v Speaker 1>give me an embrace.

1:31:48.880 --> 1:31:52.639
<v Speaker 3>And some love those two names voice period.

1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna tell you why they hate. I'm gonna

1:31:54.960 --> 1:31:58.479
<v Speaker 1>tell you the difference. There's people in our family who

1:31:58.520 --> 1:32:00.759
<v Speaker 1>want to be considered the official thing. These on Frederick

1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Douglas as a way to make money. This is about

1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:08.320
<v Speaker 1>It's about money. In other words, they want to get

1:32:08.320 --> 1:32:10.759
<v Speaker 1>speeches to go talk about. They want to get grants.

1:32:11.320 --> 1:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>You see right, and clearly you're not doing that. You're

1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:16.920
<v Speaker 1>making You're getting enough speed. Nobody ever called me up

1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:18.519
<v Speaker 1>and said we want to pay you to come talk

1:32:18.560 --> 1:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>about Frederick Douglas. I don't know doing it because it's

1:32:23.720 --> 1:32:26.760
<v Speaker 1>my reputation is purely off of my own work, not

1:32:26.880 --> 1:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>my relationship to fred but because I big him up

1:32:30.800 --> 1:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>so much and I'm so associated with the name. If

1:32:34.080 --> 1:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>they do want somebody to talk, why would they get

1:32:37.280 --> 1:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>anybody butt me? And that's why they're angry because they

1:32:40.240 --> 1:32:43.559
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm blocking the economic part. It's about cash

1:32:43.760 --> 1:32:44.479
<v Speaker 1>right right.

1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, with that being said, man, you I know for

1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>a fact in hip hop and rap, which is we

1:32:51.320 --> 1:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>control the cool.

1:32:52.520 --> 1:32:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Yes, you are the loudest voice in regards to that.

1:32:57.160 --> 1:32:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Those two names.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing that we can It's not even close that

1:33:02.560 --> 1:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we know. I'm talking about the boys listening to the

1:33:06.080 --> 1:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>just you know, they can change some things. We don't

1:33:09.479 --> 1:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>know when we hear Marcus Garvey Frederick Douglass, we're gonna say,

1:33:12.920 --> 1:33:15.439
<v Speaker 2>doctor Umar Johnson is where we hear that from, you

1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:17.599
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? And so even today you spilling

1:33:17.720 --> 1:33:19.640
<v Speaker 2>all this stuff about those guys.

1:33:19.320 --> 1:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>We don't hear that anyway.

1:33:20.640 --> 1:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>There's no other scholar that I know of that we're

1:33:23.640 --> 1:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna hear be able to even do that on a

1:33:26.760 --> 1:33:29.840
<v Speaker 2>level like that, because again, the inflection and just the

1:33:29.920 --> 1:33:34.000
<v Speaker 2>passion all that. That combination is why you're special.

1:33:34.360 --> 1:33:34.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

1:33:34.920 --> 1:33:37.479
<v Speaker 2>It's why you're able to go in and out and

1:33:37.560 --> 1:33:40.080
<v Speaker 2>float in and out to these cities and countries and

1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:43.759
<v Speaker 2>people gravitate to that. Man, that's a very very unique

1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:46.240
<v Speaker 2>combination you got, man. And I want to tell you

1:33:46.280 --> 1:33:50.040
<v Speaker 2>that personally, I don't meet a lot of guys younger

1:33:50.240 --> 1:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>or older that I can say I'm impressed with just

1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the way you're put together. You get what I'm saying,

1:33:57.840 --> 1:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's a real thing. I can make some money.

1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:03.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how many how much of the information

1:34:03.320 --> 1:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I can retain, you know, because man, you're doing that,

1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>you gotta be very sure. But but again I want

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<v Speaker 2>I'm slide through. I'm aa slide do mess with y'all

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