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Speaker 1: He played they interview flat. Why not just play mine flat?

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Speaker 1: Don't sensationalize my content unless you're going to put it

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Speaker 1: in a way where you leading credence to the message.

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Speaker 1: But he was. He was turning into some fuck he's

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Speaker 1: my friend clickbait and I didn't like him for that.

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Speaker 1: So then his people hit me up, they said, well,

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Speaker 1: let's come back, let's do another one. I fell back

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Speaker 1: on that, you know what I mean, because I didn't

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Speaker 1: come on there for that. I came in there for

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Speaker 1: a grown man interview, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 1: but I think those interviews show the power structure that

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Speaker 1: you can't give him mainstream attention because it goes viral.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm telling you the way it went, the

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Speaker 2: way the ripple effect was crazy, man, Like you said,

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Speaker 2: it was everywhere, like you said, yeah, man. The only

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Speaker 2: thing you know, because like I don't give a damn

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Speaker 2: because it needs to happen, like you have to be

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Speaker 2: on these platforms that we need to build some other

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Speaker 2: ones that you need to be on because those interviews

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Speaker 2: are more important than Charlemagne asking somebody about who punched

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Speaker 2: him in the face and why, Like, I like that too,

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Speaker 2: But it's it's an interesting thing over there with Charlemagne

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Speaker 3: He has this guy he does a podcast with name

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who came at me? A bunch a couple, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he got it. I saw one joint, but he's been coming.

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Speaker 2: He's and what he's saying, he's saying like and the

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Speaker 3: Not a Nuance Hitler, the black Trump, the black Hitler

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Speaker 3: like this, And I'm thinking myself, like.

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Speaker 2: The dude, listen and if I play it to you're

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Speaker 2: gonna be like, what the what's up with this?

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Speaker 1: The one I saw was it was too intense for

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Speaker 2: But Charlemagne because that's his friend. I don't think Charlemagne

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Speaker 2: understands what he's doing. Unconsciousness. He's given this guy because

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Speaker 2: they sit down and talk every week about black culture.

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Speaker 2: He's given shots because I've watched podcast, I've watched shults.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan of shows, but I've watched him garner

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Speaker 2: enough nuts to start to even say these kind of things.

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Speaker 2: You see what you say, He's too comfortable because of Charlemagne.

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Speaker 1: He too comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Without that podcast with Charlemagne, I don't see him speaking

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Speaker 2: things I've I've listened to Charlemagne explained to him things

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Speaker 3: He might just say, hey, man, what's up with the

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Speaker 2: And Charlemagne, for the sake of content, is pulling his

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Speaker 2: leg and just you know, shits and giggles.

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Speaker 3: But this guy's.

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Speaker 2: Forming a your opinion, not only on you, but on

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Speaker 2: black culture, on rappers, on hip hop, on like without Charlemagne,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Schultz is and who he is. Charlemagne comes from

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Speaker 2: the breakfast club. He brings all of us to his podcast,

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Speaker 2: which you're there saying stuff here and there, we take

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Speaker 1: Who you are.

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Speaker 3: But this is a weird thing.

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Speaker 2: And I wonder, and I want to ask Charlemagne that

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Speaker 2: I wonder if Schultz has affected the way he looks

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Speaker 1: And I would say that because we do texts from

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Speaker 2: And see I thought that too, and I think that

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Speaker 2: this is gone away. Like I watched these guys because

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Speaker 3: So I listen and I see that.

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Speaker 2: Shots gets him in a place where like, and I'm

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Speaker 3: Charlomagne didn't know what.

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Speaker 2: To say the whole thing about the bank loan, like,

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Speaker 2: you can't right, you can send him back if he's Asian,

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Speaker 2: you can send him back if he's so. Andrew Shoultz

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Speaker 2: point was, that's the Oumar Johnson is a crock of shit.

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Speaker 4: Well, listen, listen, listen.

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Speaker 5: Hell, you can get a carlo, but you can't get

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Speaker 4: He's talking to black people.

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Speaker 1: The education is going to.

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Speaker 5: Cost me one hundred grand, The car is going to

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Speaker 5: a quarter of a million. Why do you approve that?

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Speaker 5: But you don't approve the business loan, which is probably.

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Speaker 4: For half the amount.

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Speaker 5: Because if I finance your empowerment, that disrupts my system

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Speaker 5: of extermination in genocide, you cannot killing people who you

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Speaker 5: Thats why the hood is full of mom and pop stores.

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Speaker 5: That's why the hood is full of struggling businesses, because

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Speaker 5: America has a policy where you do not empower black

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Speaker 5: people for their own benefit.

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Speaker 4: Any other minority.

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Speaker 5: Yes, why because if they get out of hand, they

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Speaker 5: could be sent home. The black men cannot be sent home.

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Speaker 5: Slavery is over and as old than in America. America

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Speaker 5: was born on July fourth, seventeen seventy six. Slavery in

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Speaker 5: the collegies begin on August the twentyeth sixteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: You could get a.

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Speaker 4: Student, Chris, I disagree with that a lot. Actually, I

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Speaker 6: Can I just respond to one thing and then because

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Speaker 6: I want to, I want to tell you, okay, first

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Speaker 6: of all, you first of all, it just I really

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Speaker 6: take advantage of people that aren't that aren't intelligent, and

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Speaker 6: take advantage of anger.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: There are black people that go through racism every single

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Speaker 6: and they feel they feel just just wronged by society,

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Speaker 6: in and he goes, Oh, I got you. I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: perfect solution. I'm gonna give you a nice, big, bad

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Speaker 6: guy for you to believe in. That's the cause of

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Speaker 6: all your problems. And I'm gonna tell you some real

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Speaker 6: sexy shit, and I'm gonna bring off the DSM four

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Speaker 6: psychology Bible and tell you why it justifies all my

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Speaker 6: bullshit bigoted as opinions.

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Speaker 4: So when it comes to.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to this loan right here, when it

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Speaker 4: How is it do you could get a loan for

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Speaker 2: So this is what he's saying, right He says, you

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Speaker 1: Also, he says, did they not put Asians in internment

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Speaker 1: him in a tournament camps, throwing World War two right

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Speaker 1: here in this country.

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Speaker 2: See and that seat Charlemagne or myself don't have that information. Schultz,

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Speaker 2: Charlemagne and kind of put him in a place where,

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Speaker 2: hey man.

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Speaker 1: You know where he wouldn't be able to do that

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Speaker 3: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: Here's the only reason why I haven't debated him. I

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Speaker 1: it than him, for reasons. You just said he's benefited

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Speaker 1: from Charlemagne's platform, Right, I have a very strong following. Right,

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Speaker 1: I can't afford for him to benefit from mine. You understand,

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Speaker 1: It's financial, it's political. You follow what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who he connects it. To give me the

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Speaker 1: am not going to debate a no Namer because for me,

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Speaker 1: he's a no Namer. I never knew any before Charlotmage.

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Speaker 1: I'm not wasting no time with no no Namer if

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Speaker 1: I don't need no prep. Let's go. But if you

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Speaker 1: my platform, my position, and I ain't getting nothing out

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Speaker 3: And see and and and that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I almost think, and I want to talk to shows

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Speaker 2: two and I'm asking the tough questions ause he needs

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Speaker 3: But but I seem tarka she do it with it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know they had a conss man and he

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Speaker 7: Him much for joining us pleasure.

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Speaker 6: I listened to you on tax yesterday. You are talented.

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Speaker 6: I don't say that about anybody. I don't know if

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Speaker 6: you listened to this podcast, but I'm very seldomly bestowed

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Speaker 6: a compliment on people. You have a gift. You're a

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Speaker 6: great communicator. Very very good communicator. And I'm listening to

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Speaker 6: if you suffer from a lack of competition.

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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if you know how like Jordan.

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Speaker 6: Needed the Pistons to reach peak Jordan, you know, and

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Speaker 6: all greats need somebody to push them to expose their greatness.

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Speaker 6: And I wonder if you are so good at at

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Speaker 4: Challenging you enough.

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Speaker 8: And I felt and I felt like and I remember

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Speaker 4: Root cause of an issue?

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Speaker 7: Blinded? That's interesting.

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Speaker 4: Blinded meaning like like you're so committed to proving.

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Speaker 6: White supremacy, which we which we can absolutely acknowledge in

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Speaker 7: A lot of times people put black folks in token

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Speaker 7: it's integrated because there's two black people right there. You see,

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: You said, if there's one or two, it's a token.

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Speaker 6: So I'm going, what percent of representation does it become

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Speaker 7: When there's equal treatment and equal resources for the group

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Speaker 4: Meetings I'm missing.

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Speaker 1: Well see that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Meetings all over.

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Speaker 7: It is all over, y'all won't tell.

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Speaker 7: Suspect people that Nigerian money. That's why we have to

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Speaker 1: But y'all not.

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Speaker 7: Telling us who's y'all I'm not being you.

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Speaker 7: That's the thing they're allowed. They're allowed.

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Speaker 7: Because they can take that wealth and privilege right away

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Speaker 7: if they want to. Anytime. They can deport them. They

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Speaker 7: You can't absolutely if you are black, if you're for

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Speaker 7: But black immigrants, I don't say that, not coming, no,

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Speaker 7: that now with Syrians. All they have to do is

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Speaker 9: So you're gonna have to go back because they're connected

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Speaker 6: Really scary ship. But who have they sent back because

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Speaker 7: The but but the thing is, I'm giving you an example,

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Speaker 4: This is why you're good.

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Speaker 7: I'm giving you an example, giving you a ship. I'm

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Speaker 2: What they can do, like you know, I mean shows No,

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Speaker 3: He may not even know how.

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Speaker 2: We look shouts drilling at him, and you see the titles.

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Speaker 3: That shots put up.

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Speaker 2: He Charlemagne somewhere in his mind, this is this is

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Speaker 2: But this guy is getting out of I mean he's

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Speaker 2: doing it and he's still at it. Yes, he's still.

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Speaker 2: He moves it like from you to he he's a contrarian.

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Speaker 2: He's turned since you and Tarika the sheet and in

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Speaker 1: Right because he's able to get the black views off of.

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Speaker 2: That view exactly, and he titles it to get the

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I think it's by yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you will see a title when it'll say something

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Speaker 3: The brilliant idiot's d bunk racism.

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Speaker 2: And he's sitting next to one of our culture's most comedy.

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Speaker 1: Right like he co signing that you're sitting next to

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Speaker 3: And I'm thinking to myself, either Charlemagne doesn't.

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Speaker 1: He probably not consciousness.

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Speaker 2: You know, Joey Diaz is amazed. They're comedians. They trying

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Speaker 3: You know, how did you start getting these fuse man?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, damn dude, you're taking it Voto.

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Speaker 3: And so Charlmagne, He's sitting there the whole time.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, man, I was seventeen, you know,

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Speaker 2: I started you know, you know, you know, going to

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The next thing, you know, I start putting these clips up, and.

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Speaker 2: So you know, there's this weird thing that I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: Front of our your you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so in a weird way, and just by conversation,

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Speaker 2: I have to I have to lean towards he's being affected.

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Speaker 3: Man. I have to just because and I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: I got you.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking two and three hours because shots gets him

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Speaker 2: like he said, I don't have enough information, and like

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Speaker 2: right He's he's this is what he does. He's like, well,

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Speaker 2: you hear it after the interview, just so you can know.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a sense of what's going on, but

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Speaker 2: you know that that's just that that's something to me.

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Speaker 2: It's something there to me, and I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: Here's where I'm at with it. To your point, which

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Speaker 1: I think that interview may have hurt me more to

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Speaker 1: In other words, the power structure probably said, look at

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Speaker 1: And they cannot take down doctor Umar. If he can

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Speaker 1: Wolf Blitzer, Conan, You see the Oprah can't if young

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Speaker 1: The ones who are always on TV, they're not a threat.

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Speaker 1: The real ones don't get them. How many times you

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Speaker 1: That's why you'll never see me on I think I

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Speaker 1: How many more black youth are going to be woke up?

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Speaker 1: How many more black folks are going to go looking

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Speaker 1: Bill Cosby and jail right now because he tried to

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Speaker 2: What's the brother that died? Man, I'm losing it. A

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Speaker 3: Dick Gregory.

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Speaker 1: Dick Gregory shout rest in peace. And he was a good, good,

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Speaker 1: good good friend of mine. You know, right before he died.

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Speaker 1: person stokely, int trapped, all minds, and he's telling me, Umar,

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Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. But when I look at you,

439
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Speaker 1: I see them you know. And I'm paraphrasing him, but

440
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Speaker 1: it's basically what he telling me. He gives me a

441
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Speaker 1: little tip.

442
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Speaker 4: This.

443
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Speaker 1: Watch this, watch this, watch this. We only left. We

444
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Speaker 1: would have been out there till the sunrise. We only

445
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 1: left because his driver said he had to make another run.

446
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: He had to take him home. When he took off,

447
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: brother a lot of you not. I told my brothers

448
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: who was with me, I got chills. I said, I

449
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: don't think he gonna be with us too much longer.

450
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: Him taking that time out to me was symbolic of

451
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Speaker 1: him telling you, I'm passing it. I got to go right.

452
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: I knew all your heroes. This the last time I'm

453
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 1: gonna see you, and I want you to know that

454
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: you got my back right, You on the right path,

455
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 1: keep on pushing and you are there real. It was

456
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: almost like he was the go between between knock him

457
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: and me king and me right right. Definitely less than

458
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Speaker 1: thirty days he was gone. And when I went to

459
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Speaker 1: his funeral, I was standing in line because his daughter

460
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: caught me to give me a ticket. My father will

461
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: want you to be here. I'm standing in line to

462
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Speaker 1: go inside the funeral. Pack beautiful funeral, Stevie Wonder. It

463
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: was all that. One of his friends came up to

464
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: me said, I just want you to know that me

465
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: and Bobby Dick Gregory had a lot of long conversations

466
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Speaker 1: about you, and he loved you, doctor Umar, he loved you.

467
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: And I flashed back to that. That's why he took

468
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Speaker 1: them hours with me, because he saw something in me

469
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Speaker 1: that he saw in them. And the message I got

470
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Speaker 1: from him is you ain't got to prove nothing to me.

471
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Speaker 1: I know you real. That's what I got from him.

472
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Speaker 1: You ain't got the proof it to me. I didn't

473
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Speaker 1: walk with the best.

474
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Speaker 3: Can't trick him.

475
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Speaker 1: You can't trick in six hours, man, everybody was gone

476
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: and it was just us. I'll never forget it, man,

477
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: that's electric. I'll never forget it, like going within thirty days, damn,

478
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: and I felt it. I felt I said, why did

479
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: he never did that with me before to take hours

480
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: and just he was just going I wish I could

481
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Speaker 1: have taped it because he was going off the top,

482
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: just giving me all he could give me before he rode.

483
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Speaker 1: He was I got him on my altitude.

484
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Speaker 3: That's real.

485
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Speaker 2: That's real, man, that's d So, So clarify, clarify your

486
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: point on the whole banking thing.

487
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and that situation.

488
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Speaker 1: Black people can easily get loans for college, cars a

489
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: little tougher, but houses. We routinely are denied loans for business.

490
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Speaker 1: A lot of that is because of intellectual racism or

491
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: what they think we can achieve. But the bigger piece

492
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: of that is what economic liberation. They don't want you

493
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Speaker 1: economically liberated. I'm not going to finance your read them

494
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: when I brought you to America to exploit your labor.

495
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Speaker 1: What I want to financial freedom for When I give

496
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: you the car loan, I'm investing in your debt. Soon

497
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: when you drive that Mercedes off the lot is worth

498
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Speaker 1: half of what it was when I give you that

499
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Speaker 1: house loan, I'm banking on the fact that you're gonna

500
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: get a variable mortgage that they're gonna spike up on you.

501
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: So you're ultimately gonna have to full close on that crib,

502
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get it back and sell it to

503
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 1: ten more blackberries. That's a hustle if you're not there

504
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: for a big hustle. You see what I'm saying. College,

505
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: I know that's a hustle because you're gonna spend four

506
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: years in there. That interest is running every single year.

507
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna come out. You're gonna have to go back

508
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Speaker 1: and get a master's. You're gonna come out. You have

509
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: to go back and get a doctorate. Before you even

510
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: get your first real job. You owe me quarter mil.

511
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: You see that most of the loans we get are

512
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: four hour continued economic incarceration. The business loan is for

513
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: your liberation. And that's why you can get a two

514
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars med school loan, but you

515
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: can't get a fifty thousand dollars daycare.

516
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Speaker 3: Loan right now. Now, Schultz position on that was.

517
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: With the car loan. The reason it's easier to get

518
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with race.

519
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 6: The bank can then take that house and sell it

520
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 6: to somebody else. Can they take nobody beats the Wiz

521
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 6: and sell nobody beats the wiz. When that's out of business,

522
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 6: can they take.

523
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Speaker 4: They take the property?

524
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Speaker 1: Can they take?

525
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: But you don't own the property. When you have a

526
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 6: small business, you own yours. Yes, you absolutely do own

527
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 6: your house. You own your house and if you don't

528
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Speaker 6: pay the bills, the bank owns it. But what does

529
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 6: the bank do with Nobody beats the whiz when they

530
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 6: don't own the actual brick and mortar. They own property,

531
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Speaker 6: They don't own the property. Do you understand the difference

532
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Speaker 6: between the business and property, because if not, we can't

533
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 6: have this discussion.

534
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 4: No, I don't.

535
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Speaker 6: Okay, So business right is Charlotne They got enterprises?

536
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Speaker 10: Yeah?

537
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Speaker 4: I know that, but are you sure? But if you

538
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 4: have if you.

539
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Speaker 10: Own a business like as far as like leasing a building,

540
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Speaker 10: renting a building, which most people that's what most people

541
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Speaker 10: get the loans for to get the building.

542
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Speaker 4: Most of the time you need that's not true. I

543
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 4: grew up in a small business and that's not true.

544
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 4: That's all the time when I'm for me, when I'm

545
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: trying to thought of a.

546
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 6: Business startup money, it's more than the two thousand dollars

547
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 6: a month that you have to spend in rent. What

548
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 6: do you think, Chris Uh, you're talking as someone who

549
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 6: grew up innocent.

550
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 4: I understand these.

551
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 10: Long My father had a small, a small seafood market,

552
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 10: so let's let's ask him about what the cost was.

553
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Speaker 11: But I mean, I think he I think he's right

554
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 11: about systematic economic oppression, but I think he's using an

555
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 11: incorrect example on my understanding.

556
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Speaker 6: Google the people to believe you, But I could google

557
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 6: these grants. You can't google the information to back up

558
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 6: with doctor Martins.

559
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: Google information I told you to, did not?

560
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 6: You already told me when I got on the phone

561
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 6: with you, I don't dis You said, I disagree with

562
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 6: that one thing about sending back the other minds.

563
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 10: And I said, when it came to the small business loans, yes,

564
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 10: you can get grants, but I don't know about from

565
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 10: the banks. You can when you get small business on

566
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 10: these are banks that I can use. Small's true, that's companies.

567
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 4: I know that because I have businesses.

568
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 11: But he's insinuating then he's not out there. And I

569
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 11: really think the money like Wax should absolutely be able

570
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 11: to Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

571
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 10: Barack Obama allocated one point two billion dollars.

572
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Speaker 6: Obama, that guy who hasn't done anything for black people,

573
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 6: According to doctor Ruma Johnson, that Barack Obama, Hey, oh

574
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 6: what what about that one point two billion dollars?

575
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 7: Oh?

576
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 4: I guess he just forgot about that.

577
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 6: Well, maybe it doesn't fit his fucking agenda, which is

578
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 6: give you a justification.

579
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: To give you that heroine you need. You feel shitty.

580
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 6: I don't give you a justification for your shitty field

581
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 6: and profit arment.

582
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 4: He just didn't know.

583
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: It's his job to know.

584
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 10: Now, really, we don't know his fucking job know everything.

585
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 10: So why don't you come here with more facts than

586
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 10: because I ain't every day read because this motherfucker will

587
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 10: get up here and do exactly what.

588
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: Now you just trying.

589
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: Now, you're just trying to discredit me instead this what

590
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: you do?

591
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: You try to discredit me.

592
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: No, it's a very clever. I'm trying to strategic moves.

593
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 6: No, No, you try to discredit me from from talking

594
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 6: about this person that you and I have already had

595
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 6: a conversation about. He said, specifically in this thing, what's

596
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 6: the difference between giving people of other minorities in America

597
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 6: loan to giving black people and loans? Is America doesn't

598
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 6: want to profit the black man's rise and economic power?

599
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: Not profit.

600
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Speaker 6: They won't want to support it. They will do it

601
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 6: for Peaple other minorities because they could send those other

602
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 6: minorities back to their country.

603
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 4: How listen, how could.

604
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: You do that?

605
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: I don't with that.

606
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 6: You can't send a Chinese kid that was born here

607
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 6: back to China.

608
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that. But you know the reason

609
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: or not it's wrong? Do I think it's wrong? But

610
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 4: you know the reason I didn't dispute that because I

611
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: didn't know, simple as that.

612
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: How could you not know?

613
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: This is mister constitution. He doesn't know the fact that

614
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: you're born here, you can't get sent back to Chinese.

615
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna look at him as though we don't

616
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 4: want that. America's two things. I want to make a

617
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 4: point about that this team me and you is.

618
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 10: I'm not talking about this issue because now we're talking

619
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 10: about us. Let's talk about this just me and you.

620
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 10: I'm not afraid to say I don't know. And if

621
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 10: I don't know, you know what I do shut the

622
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 10: fuck up and listen sure, and then I go research

623
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Speaker 10: so the next time i'm w'll prefraid.

624
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Speaker 4: That's number one.

625
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 10: Number two the reason I tell you too, it's okay

626
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 10: to say, Yo, you don't agree with doctor Uma, but

627
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 10: the same things, like he gets up and he just

628
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 10: runs his mouth and he wants people to believe in him.

629
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Speaker 4: That's what we all did. I didn't say any of

630
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: those things. I didn't. I said, he praise off people's anger,

631
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 4: and you want people to believe in him, And you said.

632
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 6: I never said I want people to believe him.

633
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 4: Of course he wants off of them.

634
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Yes, which you know, we know who I'm living that

635
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: I got five properties.

636
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 3: I got equity in.

637
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: All of them.

638
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: I don't owe anything on anything, like I'm one hundred

639
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: percent ownership. I went to get a loan and they

640
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: told me, no, I make thousand dollars a month from

641
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: two houses. They told me no, knowing this money is

642
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 2: coming directly from the state of Tennessee, they see it

643
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: coming into the banks.

644
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: And they told me what other reason could there be?

645
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

646
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: Because if they give you the loan, they empower you

647
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: to challenge and compete with other white males for other

648
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: economic agendans. Right, that's what purely racism.

649
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying purely from my uncle sitting

650
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: in there, like we get you guys, see k come

651
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: in here every month like clockwork, clockwork from the government.

652
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Racist comes straight from the States. And they said, no,

653
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: we're like yo, what.

654
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: See, the economic racism is more important than the intellectual racism,

655
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: the social racism, the militaristic racism i e. Police genocide.

656
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: Why is economic racism the most important racism? Because there

657
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: can be no black power without the black dollar. There

658
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: can't be no black power without the black If we

659
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Speaker 1: don't kill the black dollar, we can't kill nothing else.

660
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Speaker 1: That's why they focus on that so much. All we

661
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Speaker 1: got to do is stop them from getting capital in

662
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Speaker 1: large amounts and we can kill the whole Black renaissance facts.

663
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Speaker 2: Now to clarify now, Show's point on that was, well,

664
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Speaker 2: the reason you could get a call loan, the reason

665
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: you can get a home loan, the reason get these

666
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: other loans, It has nothing to do with race. The

667
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: reason is because they do have the ability to sell

668
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: the car if you can't afford it. They do have

669
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Speaker 2: the ability to sell the house. But with a business loan,

670
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: nobody can. They can't sell. Nobody beats the Wiz because

671
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: you don't get the property, you just get the business.

672
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: So you're you're operating a business which has no value

673
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: in the marketplace, is what he's saying. He's saying that, hey,

674
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Speaker 2: nobody beats the wiz, which is a business. If that

675
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: falls and goes out of out of commission, there's nothing

676
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Speaker 2: you can.

677
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing that they can.

678
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Speaker 1: If that be the case. We step away from that

679
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: and say, let's look at let's do a case by

680
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: case review of all the white folks who have been

681
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: approved for business loans in one year, just go the

682
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: past year, and let's look at all the black folks

683
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: who have been shot down, and let's look at whether

684
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: there's any differences in equity, income, credit score. I think

685
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: we all know what we're gonna find. You feel me,

686
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: that is an argument you cannot win because racism is

687
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: the original intent of America. America was built on racism.

688
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: Do you know why Thomas Jefferson declared independence from Britain?

689
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: Why was they even a declaration of independence?

690
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Do you know why?

691
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: Because Britain had already started entertaining the conversation of liberating

692
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: their slaves in their Caribbean islands and in Europe. Yeah,

693
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: so the colonists Washington, Jefferson, Franklin Madison, they said the

694
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Speaker 1: British are going to end slavery. Our whole purpose for

695
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: creating America is to exploit slave labor to build a

696
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: new country. If we remained under Britain as a loyal

697
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: subject and they kill slavery, they kill our whole economic empire.

698
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: Contrary to popular belief, they did not declare independence on

699
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: July for seventeen seventy six for their freedom before your

700
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: continued servitude. That's facts. If Chops pulled some money out,

701
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: I'll spect his white ass. I ain't got no problem.

702
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: I eat his food and I eat his food, but

703
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: he don't have to pay me because we're not equal.

704
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: He got you.

705
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: If it was Michael er Dison or something, we can

706
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: go and I respect although we on to totally, but

707
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: you're not my equal fan. I think it's time for

708
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: shows to show us that he's doing more than taken

709
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: from this culture.

710
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: You know.

711
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we and we we welcome to me, and

712
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: because we got that much respect for Charlemagne. So you

713
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 2: stand next to a man and we funked with you,

714
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: got to be careful because reciprocated.

715
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

716
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna do that for him. That's what I'm saying,

717
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: I give you another one. I ain't got nothing against him,

718
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: DJ Collin, I got nothing against them, But how can

719
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: I a rapt from black culture like that? We've never

720
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: been able to eat from a rap culture. You're not

721
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: going to invade a rap music and become one of

722
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: the no eminem eminem. You're not no black person that's

723
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: going into a white industry and being put up as

724
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: one of their greatest. You don't get that in nobody

725
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: else's culture, only black folks. It's mostly our fault though

726
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: we allow them to come in and exploit. The lad

727
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: is another one. How do you let.

728
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 2: Lads be responsible for at the end of the day, man,

729
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: These kind of people are in these positions, like you said,

730
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: it'll be rough for.

731
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Speaker 1: Me to and they have no loyalty to the culture.

732
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, it's all purely for personal and economic

733
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: and political. There's no loyalty to the culture. Meaning if

734
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: something better came along which required them to turn their

735
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: back on the culture, they do it in the heartbeat.

736
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: There's no loyalty, then you can feel it.

737
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: And that's what I That's what I think about the

738
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: whole Charlemagne thing, and and and and I don't. I

739
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 2: don't say that to get in between those guys. I

740
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: just understand the way it looks. I gotta be honest

741
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: about it.

742
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was a one stop shop.

743
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: In other ways, when he went at me for a

744
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: couple of times and he left, I thought it was

745
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: a thing at a bat.

746
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: Because this is the thing, this is what he finds

747
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: fucked up. Right, fifteen minutes they were talking when he

748
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: was trying to flip it on Charlemagne, and he was saying, like,

749
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: what if I were you, man, I'll be responsible with

750
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 2: my platform.

751
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't put someone that hate gays.

752
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: And that hat I hate gays, That's what I'm But

753
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: but he's saying that to penetrate Charlemagne's man, like, oh fuck.

754
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: But Charlomage is standing on the square in the moment.

755
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 3: But I know in the back.

756
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 2: Of his mind he's like, Okay, we are in council culture, Like,

757
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

758
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: If this is dangerous. If it is, whether or not

759
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: he's introducing doubt.

760
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: Interview Donald Trump. That's what I keep trying to tell you.

761
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 6: I know it's a difference interviewing somebody and promoting their rhetoric,

762
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 6: and you promote this guy.

763
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: No, I was.

764
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 10: I was promoting a breakfast club interview, because right after

765
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 10: that I put the asap Rocky interview out Literally seconds later,

766
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 10: I was promoting all the new interview we had on

767
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 10: our websites.

768
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: You trump you.

769
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 6: And you said you were saying that last week, because

770
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Speaker 6: that's putting doctor. Nobody's giving him a platform on the podcast,

771
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 6: giving you for saying that.

772
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: In the world.

773
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 4: You want to context so you just want to try

774
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: to prove I told you that because's rhetoric. This is

775
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 4: what I keep telling.

776
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 10: I take people are more committed to your own clean

777
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 10: What am I not going to get on this podcast and.

778
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: Save people who man they don't agree with.

779
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 10: Being or anything? What did I say the same way,

780
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 10: I will take a gay man and let him get

781
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 10: on there.

782
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 4: I can put d ra on it. This is the

783
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: thing about people in general.

784
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 10: Anybody with a real opinion, anybody who says things that

785
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 10: people don't agree with, people are going to disagree.

786
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I could take a nice suitet introducing doubt into a

787
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 2: mind that that probably that.

788
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt. I'm

789
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna give Charlamage the benef yah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

790
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: Your point is well taken, and I may speak with

791
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: him about that next time. I say, yeah, definitely with him,

792
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: and I'm.

793
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: Sure he'll he'll heal this and he'll probably he'll they'll

794
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: probably speak about it, because I'm telling you there's something there.

795
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: Every time he brings you up, he discredit is it

796
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: on the level where it's like it's.

797
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: Almost it's almost like if I go home and tell.

798
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: My woman I want to eat chicken to night and she, oh,

799
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: my god, chicken is the worst fucking thing.

800
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: At some point, I'm gonna stop bringing up that.

801
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: I want to eat chicks.

802
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 3: It's unnecessary. We're friends where we're supposed to be boyfriend

803
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: and girlfriend. There's no need for us to argue about

804
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: so will eat something else?

805
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: Right?

806
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: And I think he's kinda he's pushing.

807
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: You know what. I think a lot of it boils

808
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: down to there's nothing a white racist male hates more

809
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: than an unapologetically African alpha male. And what he hates

810
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: even more than that is a unapologetically African alpha male

811
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: who's foundation is not mutable by the white power structure.

812
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: In other words, when you say we want to destroy

813
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: doctor Umar, you can't go to no university I don't

814
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: work for. You can't go to no school district. I

815
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: don't work for. You can't go to Minister Fia Cohn.

816
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not in that. You see what I'm saying. You

817
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: can't go to the NAACP. He's not that. You can't

818
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: go to the Masons, he ain't one. You can't go

819
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: to the Elks. You can't go to the Greeks. We

820
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: can't go to a black chi Who in the hell

821
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: can we reach out to to pull doctor Umar's collar? Nobody?

822
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: And my power base is my people. This is critical

823
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: because when you look at a lot of our hip

824
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: hop artists, although they're from the hood, some of them

825
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: still in the hood, their power base is the major

826
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: music industries, the conglomerate out and since the most mainstream

827
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: hip hop is purchased by non Africans, they require some

828
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: degree of complicity because you don't want to alienate your

829
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: white base. Now, we may we listen to the hip

830
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: hop more than white folks, but we're able to get

831
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: it through different venues that don't require us to pay

832
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: for it. You follow what I'm saying. It's not that

833
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: white folks are listening to hip hop more than us.

834
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: We're able to get it without paying for you see,

835
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: but in terms of purchasable consumers, the whites are buying

836
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: it more than the marketplace. So they can be controlled

837
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: to a degree because you have a white constituency no

838
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: different than a black politician. My constituency is one black.

839
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: You see, I ain't got no a rap constituents. I

840
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: ain't got no Anglo Saxon. I ain't got no Chinese

841
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: my power base to some degree, think almost like me,

842
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: how do you shut him when he's standing on millions

843
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: of people who believe what he believed.

844
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: You can't.

845
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: That's the issue with people like Cholkes because they're so

846
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: used to making one phone call and killing it and

847
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: killing it.

848
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: So, but and so what he understands is because he's

849
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: a psychologist. So what he understands is, see this dude

850
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: is he's stealth, he's gays.

851
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: You know what else I learned he studies me. Yeah,

852
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: he studies particularly he knows.

853
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 2: But and and so he's he's a psychologist. So when

854
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: he talks about it, he puts it in a in

855
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: a way where like I said, if you're listening and

856
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: you don't know any better, or you don't know for yourself,

857
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: or you don't go research for yourself. He puts it

858
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: in a way where it's like whoa, whatever he was

859
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: just talking about, that must be true, Like that guy

860
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: must not know what he's talking about, you know. And

861
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: so I just think it's something there that that that

862
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: that that just needs to be addressed. But your message,

863
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I was gonna say. What I think

864
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: is going on is that he understands that. Well, not

865
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: only him people, because I'll take it off the shows,

866
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: some people understand that. So what they know is is

867
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: if I can get to Charlemagne, or if I can

868
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: get to.

869
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: Because I can't affect him, get to the gatekeepers exactly,

870
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 3: if I can.

871
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: Get to him and say, well, he's LGBT, he hates

872
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: gays man, or he's one of those guys that.

873
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Like assassinate the character, make the host feel ashamed, and

874
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: kill access to the platform.

875
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: Because what he's also said about the school, he said, hey, listen,

876
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: you know, because Charlamagne was trying to defend you. He

877
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: was like, man, that man, he's not going to be

878
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: teaching the kids to hate gay people.

879
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: And he was like, oh, so.

880
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 2: You think the man who's uh spitting all this rhetorica

881
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: all around the world is going to have a school

882
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: and then stop spitting the rhetoric.

883
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: You know, see he puts him in these But here's

884
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: what I say, because when I speak at universities, I'm

885
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: going to get a phone call because black LBG tars

886
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: are going to tell them I hate gays, and they're

887
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna me and this is religiously okay, And I'm going

888
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: to ask them one sip of question. I have more

889
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: videos on YouTube than any living black scholar in the world.

890
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: Can you find me a clip where I said I

891
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: hate or that I advocate hatred to gaze show it

892
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: to Can you show me a clip where I said

893
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: I hate white women or I advocate hatred to white women.

894
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Me telling black men that they don't need to be

895
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: with white women ain't about hating white women. It's about

896
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: loving black women. Me being against LBGT ain't about hating LBGT.

897
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: It's about loving the black family. You see, don't confuse

898
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: the mean and the method with what your interpretation is.

899
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: And that's what they do. So they'll try to put

900
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: their interpretation on my message. You cannot do that. Prove

901
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: through my words your position that I'm a hater. You

902
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. That's all charloa Mane had to

903
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: hit him with. Give me something. He said that you

904
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: feel substantiate your claims that he hates gays. And I've

905
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: spoken on LBGT a lot, so you shouldn't have no

906
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: problem finding that. My position on LBGT is this, I

907
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: love all black folks. I don't care what they are, gay, straight, crooked, whatever, crazy.

908
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I love all black folks right right. But I reserve

909
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: the right to disagree with any actions, positions, lifestyles, or

910
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: agendas that are not in the best inches of African people,

911
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: which is to say that I'm politically pragmatic. As a pragmatist,

912
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: you bring me something and I ask you, how does

913
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: this benefit me? Like a vegan or a vegetarian, they

914
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: are dietary pragmatists. When you bring them a mill, you

915
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. They gonna look at it

916
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: and say, there's no nutritional content in this, hoki, I'm

917
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: not gonna eat it. You follow what I'm saying. They're

918
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: gonna look and say, well, this carrot got a little

919
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: bit of fiber, but this key we got more. I'm

920
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: gonna eat the kii instead of a vegan and a vegetarian.

921
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,839
Speaker 1: They are dietary pragmatists. They're not eating it if there's

922
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: no nutrition in it, period. It must be of benefit,

923
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: and nothing in it better be of detriment. That's how

924
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: I am politically. You bring me homosexuality, I'm gonna asks you.

925
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: In the community where most men are incarcerated or dead,

926
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: in the community where most black women will never be married,

927
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 1: in the community where our sisters are the last married

928
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: in the first divorce, how can introducing same sex marriage

929
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: amongst men benefit our people? You see that no hate,

930
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: no hate? How does that? How does black boys seeing

931
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: black men be sexually intimate with each other benefit their manhood? Training, pragmatism.

932
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: It's no different if you bring me a black man

933
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: with a white woman. How does black boy seeing a

934
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: black man love all up on a white girl and

935
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: not a black one? How does that benefit us? You

936
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: bring me white Jesus. How does black people worship in

937
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 1: a white male image as their lord benefit us psychologically

938
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: and spiritually? I'm pragmatic with all things, not just one thing.

939
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm pragmatic with all things. I've been on LBGT shows,

940
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: they invite me on and we have respectable dialogue. Right,

941
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: And I asked them the same question. It's never been answered.

942
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Can you give me one benefit? I'm just looking for

943
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: one because I'm a pragmatist, so there needs to be benefits. Right,

944
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: Can you give me one benefit of the free expression

945
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: and practice and promotion of homosexual lesbian lifestyles in our community?

946
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: Can you give me a benefit? And I haven't been

947
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 1: given an answer yet in twenty years.

948
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: They And so what you're saying is that people tend

949
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 3: to twist that.

950
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: They twist my message in order to render it so

951
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: ridiculous tool so people don't listen any further. See, Schultz's

952
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: agenda is to stop people from listening to my message

953
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: because he knows that it's so politically potent. So what

954
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is misrepresent what the man is saying

955
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: and make it look so diabolical that when I tell

956
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: people what he stands for, they will be gullible enough

957
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: to believe what I said and not go and see

958
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: for himself.

959
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: And that's what Charlamagne told him. Hey did you even

960
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: watch the interview? But he said, man, I watched the

961
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: first eight minutes and knew.

962
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: He was full of shit. Get through.

963
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: He's jealousy.

964
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: So that's jealous that's a that's a that's a whole man.

965
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: That's a shit show.

966
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: But moving out of that into into police genocide, yes,

967
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: let's let's let's spend some.

968
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: Time police genocide. The reason we got such a strong

969
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: return of police genocide under the Obama administration because it's

970
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: been with us since we've been here. The slave patrollers

971
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: were the first police. Remember, no state has a national

972
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: security force until slavey ended. This's not even a mature

973
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: federal incarceration system to eighteen sixty five, so the prison

974
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: system was literally made for us. With that being said,

975
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: the reason you saw so much of that come back

976
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: during the Obama years is because white people, who are

977
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: politically uneducated. I'm talking about poor white trash who don't

978
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: have a political education. They're like poor black folks don't

979
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: have a political education. Poor white trash interpreted the Obama

980
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: victory as a message that white people were losing control

981
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,240
Speaker 1: of America. That's why white folks bought all the guns

982
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: and all the ammunition. There was more guns and ammunition

983
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: purchase during Obama's years than any other president in the

984
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: past twenty five years. Because poor white folks don't know

985
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: no better. They think a black face means black power.

986
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: Poor black people don't know no better. They think a

987
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: black face means black power. You see what I'm saying.

988
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: So the reason the police went crazy is because putting

989
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: a black man in the White House to uneducated whites

990
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: actually meant a changing of the political guard from white

991
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: to black. They didn't know Obama was just a stooge,

992
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: He was just a token. He was just an agent

993
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: of white power. They didn't know that. Rich whites know that,

994
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: educated whites know that poor whites, which are the bulk

995
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: of America, they didn't know that. So the police, largely

996
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: being working that's a step above those poor whites. You see,

997
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: they have the same mentality. So the best way they

998
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: could exercise their disgraceful views on the Obama situation was

999
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: to attack black folks knowing he would do nothing about it.

1000
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: Let us be clear, had they knew Obama would speak

1001
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: up and stand up for black folks against the police,

1002
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have got out of hand like that. They

1003
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: knew he would do nothing about it, and one of

1004
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: the most cowardly moves of Obama was after Freddie Gray

1005
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: had his spine snatched from the back of his skull

1006
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: up in Baltimore the very next week. That's what this

1007
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: nigro does, This nigro pion. Barack Obama signs a Blue

1008
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: Shield law that protects police against any type of resistance

1009
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: from the people that they arrest, making it punishable life

1010
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: in jail and all this other stuff if you harass

1011
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: or abuse the police. In other words, a black boy

1012
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: just got killed by the cops. Instead of you making

1013
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: a law to protect the civilians from the police, you

1014
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: signed to build a protect the police from the civilians.

1015
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: That was Obama's message to white America that I am

1016
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: on your side, not black folks. Once white folks saw

1017
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: that the president of the United States, I mean, let's

1018
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: go to the legal now. The president of the United States,

1019
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: according to American jurisprudics, is the chief law enforcement officer

1020
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: in the country. You're follow me. Obama is the commander

1021
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: in chief of all military forces. The Patriot ach brought

1022
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: the police under the military, So Barack Obama is the

1023
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: number one cop, and the number one cop won't say

1024
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: or do anything about his employees taking the lives of

1025
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: our defenseless people, men, women, and children. Obama is the

1026
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: reason that thing got out of control, and our support

1027
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: of Obama is the reason they got out of control

1028
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: because the power structure said, look, we're letting the police

1029
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: kill they people every day. Obama ain't said a word,

1030
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: and black folks won't even challenge him on it. Once

1031
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: they saw that we would let Obama get away with

1032
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: the defenseless murders of black folks, they went on.

1033
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: Do you think because I know you were saying that

1034
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 2: he had to face criticism, do you think he faced

1035
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: any by the time he left from.

1036
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: Barack Obama is untouchable. Two people you cannot talk about

1037
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: in our community, White Jesus and Barack Obama. He's untouchable,

1038
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: which is dangerous. You know why, because that means we

1039
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: still haven't even learned the lesson that the Obama presidency

1040
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 1: should have taught us that are black faced on Eco

1041
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: black power and that white supremacy is white supremacy, irregardless

1042
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: of the hand that carries out the agenda, we still

1043
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: haven't learned it because we're too emotionally connected to the situation.

1044
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to fall in love with politicians This

1045
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: is a big mistake of black folks we fall in

1046
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: love with. If you run for mayor of Nashville, guess what.

1047
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: If I don't like you, I'm not gonna vote for you.

1048
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: You might have the best economic plan for my people.

1049
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: You might have the best plan for the schools. You

1050
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: might have the best plan for the jails. You might

1051
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: got the best plans for the homeless. You might got

1052
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: the blessed best plans for fiscin tendency state. You got

1053
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: all the right ideas. But I don't like you. And

1054
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: because I don't like you, I'm mixing person on what business.

1055
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Look at that? Because I don't like you, even though

1056
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: I agree that everything you're saying is right. Because I

1057
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: don't like you, I won't vote for you. And that

1058
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: is black people's political immaturity. And it has been haunting

1059
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: us ever since the Civil Rights What do you think

1060
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: that's from. I think a lot of it has to

1061
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: do with the way in which black church has evangelized

1062
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: black politics to the point that, remember, it's the pastor

1063
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: that brings the politician to preach in the church to

1064
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: get your vote. Right, that the church claims not to

1065
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 1: be political, but the church is the most political institution

1066
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: in the community, because in order to get elected, you

1067
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: gotta get endorsed by, oh, the church. So the pastor

1068
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: brings the politician in. So you got two pimps sharing

1069
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: the pulpit, the pastor and the politician to serve the

1070
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: people up at the voting block, you see. So the

1071
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: church is ran on emotion and imagination. In order to

1072
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: be a good pastor, you must be a very good

1073
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: communicator of emotion and imagination, you see. So the politician, automatically,

1074
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: it is being introduced to the black congregation through the pastor.

1075
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: That automatically means that the way in which we engage

1076
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: our pastor emotions in imagination, we engage our politician emotion

1077
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: and imagination with one extra added detriment or side effect,

1078
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: and that is the pastor as a representation of God

1079
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: is beyond reproach, questioning or accountability, you see. And if

1080
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: the politician stands next to the pastor, isn't he also

1081
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: beyond accountability? Exactly, And that's why the two most untouchable

1082
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: people in the black community is the elected official and

1083
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,919
Speaker 1: the bishop. So the two people who should be doing

1084
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: the most are asked to do the least and you.

1085
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 3: Know, like I say, church for me? You know, like

1086
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: I say, like you I've heard.

1087
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: You say before, is that they only ask you to

1088
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 2: show up and give hope.

1089
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: So there's no they don't invote any kind of.

1090
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: No action, no action, Pay and pray. Same thing with

1091
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: the politician, vote and hope. Preacher, pay and pray, politician,

1092
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: vote and hope. Doctor Umar comes in on the garvy

1093
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: train and I say, that ain't bad, but if it's

1094
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: not couple with action, it is worthless. That ain't bad,

1095
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: But if it ain't couple with action, it's worthless. So

1096
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna still let

1097
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: you pray and pay, and I'm gonna still let you

1098
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: vote and hope. And once you're done praying and voting,

1099
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna come and do some work. And then the

1100
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: pastor and the politician would shoot me down. Mind you,

1101
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: I didn't shoot them down. I said, you can still it,

1102
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: goad and when you're done, come see me. Why couldn't

1103
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: they endorse me the way that I endorse them. I'll

1104
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: tell you why. Because constituency working with me. Okay, excuse me,

1105
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: My constituency working with them doesn't put me out of business.

1106
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: Their constituency. Working with me puts them out of business

1107
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: because guess what, once she get a husband, and once

1108
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: he get a job, they ain't coming back to church.

1109
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: The church is the hangout for single black women and

1110
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: unemployed black males. Once he gets some economic empolierament, his

1111
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Jesus can go home with him. See the pastor depends

1112
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: on poverty to keep his population.

1113
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 3: Now they preach it better than ma.

1114
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: All exception to the black bourgeois churches, because you know,

1115
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: you got the churches where everybody in there make a

1116
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: million hours. I ain't talking about that. I'm talking about

1117
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: the masses of Black churches are peopled by the poor.

1118
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: You see, the minute you ain't poor no more, you

1119
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: don't need it no more because.

1120
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 2: You in there and they keep talking about you gonna

1121
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: finally make you something whole.

1122
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 3: Long exactly you're thinking.

1123
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: In the politician go out of business too. You know

1124
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: why sixty Americans vote I'm a political science major forty.

1125
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: Don't let me say that again. Half of America don't

1126
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: vote white, rich, poor. Do you know why? I tell

1127
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: you why? Poor people know the politicians ain't thinking about them.

1128
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: Rich people know we own the politician. The only people

1129
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: who vote are middle class and working class. Poor people

1130
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: don't matter. Rich people don't care.

1131
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: Do you care?

1132
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: So if you empower black folks economically, guess what, they

1133
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: ain't gonna go vote no more. Or they might, but

1134
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: it won't be the central tactic in their arsenal of

1135
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: liberation because they got control of Rich people ain't got

1136
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: the vote because they own the politicians. Poor people ain't

1137
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: got the vote because they know they don't matter. For

1138
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Americans don't vote. This is not a democracy.

1139
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1140
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: America is not a democracy. First of all, the word

1141
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: democracy is not in the Constitution. It is not in

1142
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: the preamble, it's not in the Declaration, it's not in

1143
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: the Magna carta. What is it in? It's not in

1144
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: none of your fifty state constitutions. How did the word

1145
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: democracy way out of every Because America is a republic.

1146
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: Democracy is the rule of the majority, This is the

1147
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: rule of law. This is a gangst the operation. Now,

1148
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: I think that America is a bank pastor in itself

1149
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: as a nation.

1150
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: So when you talk about.

1151
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: The solution, everybody knows the solution. Everybody scared to say it.

1152
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: Go back in our history. And this brings up the

1153
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: praying and the voting again. By the way, are you

1154
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: aware that every significant change we got in America we

1155
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: paid for it in blood. Can you name me one

1156
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: significant change in Black America four hundred years now that

1157
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: you got praying or voting? Can you give me one.

1158
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: Everything I know came through blood. Civil rights you got

1159
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 1: out of slavery, blood, Thirteenth Amendment, blood, Fourteenth Amendment. Blood,

1160
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: you had the protests, go to jail, get killed, get

1161
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: beat up. You understand me. Fifteenth Amendment, blood, civil Rights Bill, blood,

1162
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Voting Rights Act. Blood, Everything you got you got through blood.

1163
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: You can't name me no damn vote that ever changed

1164
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: anything for Black America. Let's go to police genocide. Right now,

1165
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: we're in the pre campaign season, right Can you name

1166
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: me the Democratic candidate who has stated on record that

1167
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: they have a solution to police genocide. Can you name

1168
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: me an independent candidate who stated they got a solution

1169
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: to police genocide. Can you name a Republican candidate who

1170
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: has stated that they have a solution to police genocide? Nope?

1171
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: And do you know why because they know, like we

1172
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: know what the solution is and you cannot say it

1173
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: on TV. The only way Black America is going to

1174
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: get the police the back off of killing Black America.

1175
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: Is Black America going to have to go to war

1176
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: with police, just like you went the war with the KKK,

1177
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: just like you went the war with the Confederate soldiers.

1178
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: They're like you went the war with the police back

1179
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: in the Black power movement, just like Doctor King and

1180
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: then went the war with white racist governments. Even though

1181
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: they claim to be non violent. There was nothing non

1182
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: violent about the non violent movement because Doctor King faced

1183
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: off with dogs and water holeses and police. There was

1184
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: nothing non violent about non violence. You mean, show me

1185
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: where we got anything with our violent confrontation. The only

1186
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: way you're gonna stop police genocide. The only solution Black

1187
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: men will have to make up their mind, not another

1188
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: one and the next time there is another one. We

1189
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: got to get our weapons and we got to march

1190
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 1: straight to the police, and we got to face off.

1191
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: And you know what that means, Just like the Civil War,

1192
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: mass casualty on each side, mass casualty. I don't want it,

1193
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: You don't want it, but I know that in order

1194
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: for our grandchildren's grandchildren to live free, it has to happen.

1195
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: Until they lose blood. Ours will never stop flowing in

1196
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: the streets.

1197
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 3: Indeed, I mean because you know you meet force with force, man, you.

1198
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: Mean force force. What did Frederick say, my ancestor, Frederick Douglas.

1199
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and

1200
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: it never will. He said. The problem with black folks

1201
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: is you want rain, but you don't want thunder. You

1202
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: want crops, but you don't want to rip up the ground.

1203
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: You want the ocean, but you don't want to deal

1204
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: with the waves. You gotta take the girl with the

1205
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: bad What did that turner say? That turner said, when

1206
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: the spirit revealed itself to me, it said that this

1207
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: you must do, and whether it comes rough or smooth,

1208
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: whether it comes rough or smooth, you got to do it.

1209
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: However it comes. See that shit so deep like people

1210
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: gotta feel that. People have to understand what that means

1211
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: and wrap their brain around.

1212
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: And the attorney that interviewed them, Tom is Gray. I

1213
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: believe he was an attorney. At least he wasn't off

1214
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: the He said that, didn't you say God sent you

1215
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: this to lead this raid? Nat said yeah, he said, well,

1216
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: and by the way, you could download the whole confessions

1217
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 1: online for free and that Turning Confession eighteen thirty one

1218
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: times Gray. He said, well, all your homies is lynched.

1219
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: They kill Nelson, they kill Hart, they killed saying will

1220
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: the execution to kill all your soldiers is killed. They

1221
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: lynching black folks all over, saying tout south Ampter count.

1222
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: He said, well, doesn't that mean your lord has failed you? Brother?

1223
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: That turner looked at him. He said, nah, because even

1224
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ had to be crucified.

1225
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 4: Facts.

1226
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: Look at that fact, even to the day that he

1227
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 1: died that turn. And then when they took that turn

1228
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: across the street to get lynched, they said, do you

1229
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: have anything you want to say? That turner said, nah,

1230
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: hurry up and get on with it. And they said

1231
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: when they put the noose around that turning neck, he

1232
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: didn't show no fear, his body to even shake. He

1233
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: was as you talk about ronins, He said, even Jesus

1234
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: had to be crucis by that. Where was that turn

1235
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: to kill Jerusalem Virginia? Wow, Jerusalem Virja that black Christ

1236
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: man black, the real black Christ.

1237
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 3: That's some deep shit.

1238
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 1: The other day, my mother and I was watching the

1239
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 1: movie three hundred. You saw three hundred, Yeah, the Athenians

1240
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and the Greeks. Right, Leonidas took three hundred soldiers to

1241
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: go meet that damn a rap that was running the

1242
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: world at the time. Darius, who I'm watching that movie.

1243
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: You know what I said to myself, I said, this

1244
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: ain't about no damn Greeks. I said, this is not Turner. Mmm,

1245
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: this is not Turner. With no more than sixty taking

1246
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: on the entire United States government, he said, I'm not

1247
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: waiting for no vote. I'm not waiting for Jesus. I'm

1248
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: not waiting for no damn reparations. I'm not waiting for

1249
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. My people are gonna be free. Now.

1250
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: See that that Turner said.

1251
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't gone now he went with it.

1252
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: He went with it and eighteen thirty one. Just picture

1253
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: that eighteen thirty one man minu. He was born eighteen hundred.

1254
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: A few days after that Turner was born, they lynched

1255
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: Gabriel Prosser. Remember Gabel Prissa was going to lead the

1256
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: largest slavery vote ever known Richmond, Virginia. He got snitched

1257
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: out two coons. He got snitched out by two coons,

1258
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: and then eighteen twenty two, nine years before that Turner,

1259
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 1: you got Denmark Vezi down in Charston, South Carolina. His

1260
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: was going to be even bigger than Gables got snitched

1261
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: out by two coons that Turner. Nat Turner, seeing this, said, okay,

1262
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell too many people, right because these coons

1263
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: is loyal to their master. So he only told those

1264
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: Nelson hark Sam this four or five. And then they

1265
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: brought the other ones in and the baddest soldier he

1266
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: had was Will, the executioner. Will wasn't playing. Remember, Nat

1267
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: Turner was agree what will strike first death? He had

1268
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 1: to go kill his master first assistance. You're the leader.

1269
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: You got to prove your loyalty, strike first death. That

1270
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 1: Turner hit him. He didn't die before he could even

1271
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 1: say nothing. Will came with the battle acts crack crack,

1272
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: and mind you. Will wasn't even one of the originals,

1273
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: but Will ended up being the main one. Will was

1274
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: no joke getting at it. Bill wasn't no joke.

1275
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, why they don't talk about him.

1276
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: As much, that Turner because Nat Turner and Marcus Gorvey

1277
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: are very dangerous, because that Turner shows what a true

1278
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 1: Christian man will do for his people if he really

1279
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: believe in christ See, they don't need that in black

1280
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 1: church because if you go take because remember now that

1281
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: Turney was a pastor, so you go to the Matt

1282
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: Turner was a pastor of the church. So you go

1283
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: take that Turner, you say, pastor. Look what this man

1284
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: did in eighteen thirty one. We wasn't even considered people

1285
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: yet what you didn't that oh Ahn, Turner's example exposes

1286
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: the whole Christian Church. And then Garvey example. He the

1287
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: only significant Black leader we had after slavery who didn't

1288
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: use religion period period. Everybody gave you religion except Marcus

1289
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: gov He said, this ain't no religion, This ain't gonna

1290
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: be no Muslim thing, this ain't gonna be no Christian thing.

1291
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be an African thing. And his movement is

1292
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: the only one that included black people in every continent.

1293
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: Garvey is the only leader in modern history who you

1294
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: can say was actually leader of the race because every

1295
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: significant population of blacks in the world was represented in

1296
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: the Garvy movement. That's not true for nobody after God,

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Speaker 1: nobody global leader of African people without a single penny

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Speaker 1: from white folks. He buying ships Black Star line over

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Speaker 1: here black star line, no money from white folks. One

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Speaker 1: of the members came to him said, mister Gove, you

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Speaker 1: got a rich white man, he would have done that.

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Speaker 1: He believes on what you're trying to do. Marcus Garvey said,

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Speaker 1: he tell them to keep his money. This a black

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Speaker 1: man's movement. We never took a penny from another race.

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Speaker 2: Strong man, boy, he was a man now down here

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Speaker 2: just speaking about police Geniside. We had a guy here,

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Speaker 2: Daniel hambrig all right, p Daniel. He the police killed him, right.

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01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 2: So he jumps out of what they say was a

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Speaker 2: stolen vehicle and he's running and I would say he's

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Speaker 2: about fifty feet from the police officer. The police officer

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Speaker 2: now makes a decision to say, damn.

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Speaker 3: This young man's fast.

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't catch him, pull his guns out,

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Speaker 2: and he murders him, shoots.

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Speaker 3: Him in the back as he's running, shoots him. Boom boom.

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Speaker 1: They're just socially relevant.

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Speaker 2: There needs to be some structure where that's automatically attended

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Speaker 2: to as a priority item.

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Speaker 1: Yes, separate from yes your music. Yes, as a black

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Speaker 1: man or woman. I'm glad you mentioned these names. Mick Mill,

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01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: Kardashian because as you know, mik and Jay got the

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Speaker 1: criminal reform thing they working on, right, Kardashian is running

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Speaker 1: around with her little I love Black people and want

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Speaker 1: to get him out of jail movement. Here's what we

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Speaker 1: got to pay attention to. First of all, with Jay

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Speaker 1: and Meek, it is my hope that they focus on

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Speaker 1: systematic change as opposed to what Kardashian is doing. What

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Speaker 1: Kardashian is doing is what white folks do all the time.

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Speaker 1: They never attack the causes of the problem. They only

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Speaker 1: deal with symptoms. So Kardashian runs around and she'll get

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Speaker 1: that grandmother out, thank you. I'm glad she's out. She'll

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Speaker 1: go get that woman out, thank you. I'm glad she's out.

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Speaker 1: But they're symptoms of the problem. They're not the problem.

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01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: They're the consequences of the problem. What are you going

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Speaker 1: to do to systematically change the law, the process system

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Speaker 1: so this won't happen again? Absolutely nothing. And I tell

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Speaker 1: Meek milder his face, I tell jay Z to their face,

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01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: and I like them both. I support both brothers. If

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Speaker 1: y'all do the Kardashian thing, I'm gonna bring you as

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01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: a hypocrite in the phony don't tell me that you're

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Speaker 1: helping individuals get out of jail to the exclusion of

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Speaker 1: systematic change in the criminal justices. I give you an

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Speaker 1: example with Barack Obama his last year in office. What

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01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: do Obama do. He commuted the sentence of hundreds of

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Speaker 1: people in jail, sorry, letting them out, black white. I'm

1346
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: glad they got out, but please don't be distracted by

1347
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:51,799
Speaker 1: the fact that Obama did nothing to systematically change the problem.

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,839
Speaker 1: So that don't happen again, because guess what. That grandmom

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Speaker 1: that Kardashian got out because she didn't change the system,

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: they'll be ten grandmothers to replace her. That young sister

1351
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: that Kardashian got out because she didn't change the system,

1352
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: it'll be thirty more systems to replace. If Meek and

1353
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 1: Jay are going to follow the Kardashian snunt of dealing

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: with individuals but not systems, individuals but not systems. Individuals

1355
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: were not systems, then guess what. Every brother you get

1356
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: out of jail will be replaced with one hundred more.

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01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: Every person Obama let out his last year of office

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01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 1: with those commuted sentences, they've already been replaced by hundreds more.

1359
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: Never let nobody play games with your intelligence enough to

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01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: make you think that progress has been made because one

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01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: or two people got out of jail. See, that's the

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01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: same logic that America uses when Black people say we're

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: economically devastated. America will say, well, wait a minute, you

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: got jay Z, you got Bill Cosby, you got Tyler Perry.

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01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 1: Those are individuals, and you don't judge progress for a

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01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: people based on individuals in the own. Only reason why

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: they get away doing that with black folks is because

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01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 1: we are so individualistic that we don't care about the group.

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01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: We don't care about teamwork, We're not interested in the collective.

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Speaker 1: So you can run that hustle on us because at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, I don't care about him

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: or her. I only care about me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the real thing. That's definitely a real thing.

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Speaker 2: And when I look at you know, Meek and Jay,

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01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 2: and even with Jay doing this whole NFL deals, he's

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: facing a lot of backlash about it.

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01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:37,799
Speaker 1: Have you my I haven't looked at it intensively yet.

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01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: I will, But here's my early position. My early position

1379
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: is simply this jay Z has done more than most

1380
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: mainstream rappers put together. When it comes to issues of

1381
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: social justice the califhe brought a documentary. I'm not even

1382
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: including that right, okay, But I do know that when

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: the protesters and the activist was arrested on the Michael

1384
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 1: Brown in the aftermath of the Michael Brown assassination, he

1385
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: paid for them to get out. When they was arrested

1386
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the Freddie Gray situation, he paid

1387
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 1: for them to get out. I've seen where he's went

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: to Africa and helped finance certain types of infrastructure in

1389
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 1: the villages. Did he do everything? No? Did he do

1390
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: enough given his economic position? Maybe not, But it's not

1391
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: to say he won't. I recognize that where jay z

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01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: is on the economic economic totem poles, he cannot move

1393
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: as freely as you. You might, can't move as freely

1394
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: as me, you understand. So you have to respect where

1395
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: people are in their personal journey and not superimpose your

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: value system on them. It's no different than if a

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 1: sister walked in here with a blind wig on her head,

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01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: she knows. I don't agree with that. I ain't got

1399
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: to say it. If a brother came in here with

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: his white wife, he knows I don't agree. I ain't

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01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 1: got to say it, but the fact that she wanted

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01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: to interview me, says she trying. The fact that he

1403
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 1: came in here with his white girlfriend. It said, Doc,

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: I know you don't agree with this, but I'm trying.

1405
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: You gotta respect people when they try.

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01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: And my whole thing with Jay is, like I told

1407
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: my friends and a couple of guys when I was

1408
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: talking in the studio last night, I'm like to have

1409
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 2: a billion dollars to be a billion dollar guy.

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: A billion dollar black man.

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, black black man. He's the only person you're gonna ever.

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 1: See do anything, do that.

1413
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 3: Yes, you'll never see nobody else do that.

1414
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: You will never see.

1415
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 3: So for me and I don't speak on things until,

1416
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 3: like I say, they play out.

1417
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 2: So it's like, I'm gonna give this guy the benefit

1418
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: of the doubt for a seconds.

1419
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: Because the what I said, and I don't know if

1420
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: this is his thinking or not, but what I said is,

1421
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 1: how do you know he ain't trying to get in

1422
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: here to finally get one of these NFL teams? Because

1423
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: from what I understand, we don't have a black NFL

1424
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: owner at all. What if he trying to be the

1425
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 1: first and if he becomes that maybe he'll give Captaine

1426
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 1: his job back while he's still got a couple of

1427
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: good years. You don't know the man's strategy. And our problem,

1428
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: as the people you saw with me with the school,

1429
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 1: is we want to know publicly, right now, publicly, we

1430
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: want to know on you too, We want to know

1431
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: on Facebook are controlled by the enemy. We want you

1432
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: to tell us publicly what your plans are. You damn fool.

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: If I tell you what my plan are, it will

1434
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: be destroyed before if jay Z told you what he

1435
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: was really up to, he'd never get a chance to

1436
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: implement it. See, we got to recognize something. What a

1437
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: leader says to the media may not be the same

1438
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: message he shares with you. It doesn't mean he sold

1439
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 1: out to the media. It's meaning he's thinking strategically because

1440
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 1: he has to protect his agenda and if he opens

1441
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: up the agenda. The art of war is deception. The

1442
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 1: art of war is deception. You must deceive your enemy

1443
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: until your chief the victory. I give you a quick case,

1444
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: doctor King. A lot of people don't know this. Did

1445
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: you know that doctor King didn't believe in non violence?

1446
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: Doctor Martin Luther King Junior did not believe in non violence.

1447
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: You know what they did. They went to Pennsylvania and

1448
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 1: got Bayard Rusting from Chester, PA. My neckad was and

1449
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: brought him down to Alabama and said, you have to

1450
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: convince him that non violence is the way we got

1451
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: to promote this question. King was not Ford. He said,

1452
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: these crackers will never been to it. Bayard Ruster said,

1453
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: if you do it any other way, you can get killed.

1454
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: King said, I'm going to do this because strategically it's

1455
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 1: the best way to go, not because I believe it.

1456
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: Most people don't even know. Non violence wasn't doctor King's idea.

1457
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: That was Bayard Rustling. King said, y'all crazy, ill brought

1458
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 1: me from Atlanta. And guess what. The entire time, the

1459
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: entire time the Southern Christian Leadership Conference had a stockade

1460
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: of weapons. Wow, because they thought that they would come

1461
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 1: a day where the non violence would break down. Yeah, strategy,

1462
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: our people want you to be so a matter of

1463
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: factly in public, it's crazy. Give the enemy your whole

1464
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: plan to pacify a couple.

1465
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 2: Yet you anywhere, I ain't gonna do nothing but clap

1466
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: twice and go something else. And and and the crazy

1467
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 2: thing is we are so like you said, we're searching

1468
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: for man, and I don't know if any other race

1469
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 2: does this man.

1470
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 3: When we finally get a guy like a jay.

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01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: Z, or like a Oumar, or like anyone that's in

1472
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: a position to be looked at its doing right or

1473
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 2: good or for us. We searched that room for a

1474
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: dirty sock man. They searched that fucking room for a

1475
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: dirty And why do they search the room for the

1476
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:13,599
Speaker 2: dirty sock? Part of it is self hate because they

1477
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: need to assassinate your character. But why do they need

1478
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: to assassinate your character in addition to the self hate,

1479
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 2: because they need to be able to live with themselves

1480
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: for not following you. They need to be able to

1481
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 2: justify why they didn't get behind you. They have to

1482
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 2: be able to explain to their children and family and friends,

1483
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: why you did not support this brother who is doing

1484
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: something good for the people. They did it with doctor King,

1485
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 2: all the negroes who were scared to march against the police.

1486
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: Oh he cheated on his wife. You know why they

1487
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: felt it wasn't It wasn't just the satisfied, the appetite

1488
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: to destroy the character of another black man. They needed

1489
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: an excuse to justify their lack of participation. The reason

1490
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: they need to find fault with me. They need an

1491
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: excuse why they don't donate to the school. You see

1492
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It ain't just about making you look bad.

1493
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: Making you look bad helps me defend the fact.

1494
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 2: That I did not suppen my position right right, And

1495
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: so with even with jay I'm like, yo, y'all.

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01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 1: Just chill. You gotta see it through.

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01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the coach is saying, oh my god, look

1498
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 3: what he did.

1499
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 2: The first thing he done, he came out like because

1500
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: now they said, well, he's selling T shirts and selling something.

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01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:32,719
Speaker 2: My thought is, okay, the first thing you need is capital, yes, so.

1502
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: And not only that, I'm looking to see how many

1503
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: jobs are being made for black folks off of that,

1504
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: because y'all want to watch the games anyway, And the

1505
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: same people condemning jay Z at home watching NFL games.

1506
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 3: Right every Sunday.

1507
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 2: And it's the craziest stuff. So I hope and I

1508
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: pray that jay Z does the right thing.

1509
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 3: Again. It's a track record, so we're gonna give him

1510
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: the benefit.

1511
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: Got to give him time to operate right now. Once

1512
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: this NFL scheme is over, I can judge him in

1513
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: hindsight because he's done. But as long as he's in it,

1514
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: I got to see it through. And we are too

1515
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: quick to condemn and criticize black folks, but we will

1516
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: give white folks a million chances. We've been giving them

1517
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: chances for four hundred years and we still got four

1518
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: hundred more years chances for wife, But we won't even

1519
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 1: give a brother by half a chance. Him and Beyonce

1520
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: when she stood up and did that tribute to the

1521
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: Black Panthers at the Super Bowl, she did that on

1522
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the Black Panthers. I said, if she

1523
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: don't do another thing for ten years, I didn't say

1524
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: another thing, fa But for a couple of years she

1525
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: good with me because half of them would have never

1526
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: even thought of him, they would have done so J.

1527
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 3: And B cool with me, and with Kanye and Kim,

1528
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 3: with Kim doing her, you.

1529
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 2: Know, getting this guy that guy, this guy Kanye man,

1530
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 2: he had a flip. And I think with you always

1531
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 2: speaking about like medication and ADHD.

1532
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: I hope he ain't on meds, but I think he

1533
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: is the meds taking say if Kanye is on meds,

1534
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: If Kanye is on meds, those and he's probably antipsychotics.

1535
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 3: Mood stabilized antidepression kills.

1536
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,520
Speaker 1: The section of your brain responsible for ingenuity and creativity.

1537
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: That's what he imagine. It's no different you and the music.

1538
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: I know you probably can think of a couple of

1539
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: brothers local or or main who do smoke so much wheat.

1540
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Then you didn't cook that part of your brain that

1541
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: gave you that wordplay. And they you see him, they're

1542
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: trying to like it's done. So I don't know what

1543
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: happened to his done. Y'all smoked it away. You gotta

1544
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: protect your brain and you gotta protect your balls because

1545
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: you only get one of you.

1546
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so he.

1547
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 2: Like I said, with him, uh, it was a moment

1548
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: where he was on his maize and when he said

1549
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: the slavery was a choice thing and all that.

1550
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 1: All that might have been mad wry about the medication.

1551
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: That's why didn't pay it no mind.

1552
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 3: That's what it was. But he said that at that

1553
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: time he was office meds.

1554
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: So he had made a conscious decision to be like,

1555
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 2: hold on, they're like, I'm getting fat, I'm no longer myself.

1556
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 2: I'm getting off of this shit. So he stopped taking it. Now,

1557
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: what that does is fire back up those.

1558
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called a rebound effect where everything that you

1559
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 1: experienced before you took the met comes back fifty times stronger.

1560
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 3: So now he's just blurting shit out. It's not articulating.

1561
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 1: Good. He remember what the meds do. All psychotic mans,

1562
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:40,519
Speaker 1: psychiatric meds are designed to force the brain to do

1563
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: against your conscious will. So you take a boy with

1564
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: so called ADHD, which is a joke which we're gonna

1565
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: be talking about tomorrow. He's choosing to be hyper. He

1566
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 1: can sit down if he wants. He likes what he's doing, right,

1567
01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: because he won't make the conscious decision to sit his

1568
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: ass down. You gonna give him a pill that's gonna

1569
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: sit him. That's gonna sit him down, whether he wants

1570
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: to or not. Do you see what you're doing. You

1571
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: are eroding his executive function. Executive functions are the aspects

1572
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: of consciousness that allow us to control when we slabbery,

1573
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: when we chew, when we urinate. You know, it erodes that.

1574
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 1: So once your executive functions have been taken away from

1575
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: you too often, you're no longer in control of yourself.

1576
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: It's the pill, you see, So you're saying stuff you

1577
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: don't mean. You're slibbing out the mouth, don't even know what.

1578
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 1: You're peeing on yourself, you defecate. That's where that comes from.

1579
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:41,560
Speaker 1: Because the pill, basically shutting the pill steals your liberation.

1580
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: In other words, the pill introduces slavery on a neurobiological level.

1581
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 1: Now no longer physical slave to white supremacy, You're a

1582
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: neurobiological slave to whites. The chemical is the handcuff. The

1583
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: chemical is the handcuff.

1584
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 3: So how do they My thing is how do they

1585
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 3: get that shit to the kids, Because.

1586
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 2: If it could affect that Kanye Wesz thirty some odd

1587
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 2: years old, forty some are years old in that way,

1588
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 2: what what is that medicine doing.

1589
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: To a nine year old?

1590
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: I've seen them give it to I think the young Yeah,

1591
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: six two year olds.

1592
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: It's like I don't care. Yeah, it's all about money.

1593
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: First of all, because all the drugs are publicly traded

1594
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: in New York Wall Street. Right, Remember early when I

1595
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 1: talked about that Timeline CIA dropped off the crack in

1596
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty, Well, guess what. The American Psychiatric Association dropped

1597
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 1: off a d D nineteen eighty same year, same year,

1598
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: and they started drugging the adults, they started drugging up

1599
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 1: the kids at the same time. You see. But it's

1600
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: all done with parent permission though. See, in order to

1601
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: get the pills, you need to evaluation, or to get

1602
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: the evaluation, you need the parents signature. Parent don't sign

1603
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: no pills, no evil. So we are complicit because we

1604
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: are doing what these white folks tell us to do.

1605
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: When somebody comes to you and say, get your child

1606
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: to evaluated for eightyh to, your answer should be no.

1607
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: And they're gonna say why not. They're gonna say, number one,

1608
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't have to explain to you because I'm the parent.

1609
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: That's what they need to stop right there, right there,

1610
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: Because I'm the parent, that's why not. But if you

1611
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 1: want to go further eighty HD don't exist. It's a

1612
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: damn joke. You want to go furthermore, I'm not giving

1613
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: my child drugs. And that's the only solution y'all got. See,

1614
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 1: That's where I come in at. Do you believe in

1615
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: crack for kids? Because if you don't believe crack for kids,

1616
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 1: you don't believe in ADHD. Because once you get the label,

1617
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: the only option is the dope. That's that. And then

1618
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: I get parents who say, well, I just wanted to

1619
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: see if he had it, then not just tell you

1620
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: it don't exist. They can't prove it. They can't.

1621
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: It's a thrust an idea.

1622
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: It's an idea made real by the fact that you

1623
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: decided to medicate your child.

1624
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1625
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now with that being said, I know some women

1626
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: right because of the economic struction with the black men

1627
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 2: not being able to provide in certain circumstances, I've seen

1628
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: women with four and five children basically take a child

1629
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 2: or two and look at that as a pay chick.

1630
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 1: Yes, and that's true. They exploit the child for Social

1631
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 1: Security supplemental disability income. But guess what, she still ain't

1632
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: the problem. She is symptom. You know why because if

1633
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: doctor Umar Johnson, a certified school psychologist, never diagnosed her

1634
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: son with that most she couldn't do it, said, if

1635
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: somebody gave her a label, you see, so she's still

1636
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: a symptom. And what the system does is they'll try

1637
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: to turn the sister into the problem and say where

1638
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: they auctioning their kids off of checks? Okay, they are

1639
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: some of them, but guess what could they do that

1640
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 1: if you're psychologists, then auction them off first with a

1641
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: diagnosis that ain't real exactly. Primary responsibility, secondary responsibility.

1642
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna wrap up in just a second.

1643
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. What's that the book of

1644
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: the diagnosis m.

1645
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: D s M five.

1646
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 3: You said pedophilia was pedophilia.

1647
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Check this out. When they first came out with the

1648
01:24:57,080 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: d s M five about two years ago, a year

1649
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 1: or two, right, it came out where pedophilia was listed

1650
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: as a sexual orientation. Some white person saw it and

1651
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 1: sounded the alarm, and then the spokesperson for the American

1652
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Psychiatric Association came back and said, we made a tipographical error.

1653
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: Do you see that? Did you see that? They tried

1654
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: to get away with it till somebody called it. Then

1655
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: they fixed it. But according to the DSM, pedophilia Okay,

1656
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 1: if the child is sixteen is not pedophilia. They're already

1657
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,639
Speaker 1: legalizing pedophia. Yeah, and if the child is thirteen or fourteen,

1658
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 1: a person got to be at least four years older

1659
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: than them. Yeah, yeah, pedophilia, if memory serves me correctly.

1660
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: And I didn't bring my DSM with me, and I

1661
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 1: should have, I believe right now The DSM defines pedophilia

1662
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 1: as sexual attraction to pre pubescent children. Did you hear

1663
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 1: that pre pubescent? So do you know what that means?

1664
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: If your daughter going through puberty and she might be thirteen,

1665
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: she might be fourteen, but if she going through puberty

1666
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 1: a pedophilly. They already legalizing in my opinion, and they

1667
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: not done. They're going to keep on legalizing it because

1668
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: you got the organization of North American Association for Man

1669
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,759
Speaker 1: and Boy Love. Look it up on the internet. North

1670
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 1: American Association for Man and Boy Love.

1671
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 3: They want to show they move.

1672
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: They said it should be an orientation, it should not

1673
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:27,680
Speaker 1: be mental illness. I told people it was coming. You

1674
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: gotta remember now, the same way people looking at pedophilia

1675
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: today is how they looked at homosexuality in the nineteen seventy.

1676
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Homosexuality was a mental disorder in nineteen seventy, and they

1677
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: took it out in seventy four seventy five. People thought

1678
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: that would never happen, and it legal today. I promise

1679
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: you pedophilia will be totally legal in the next ten

1680
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: twenty years.

1681
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 3: That's date. That's date.

1682
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: This is a cultural is a cultural genocide, not just physical.

1683
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: They hitting us everywhere. It's a because they coming to

1684
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 1: you and say, listen, we know this ain't how Africans live.

1685
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 1: This is how we do it. And don't get me wrong,

1686
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 1: most white folks I don't believe agree with it either,

1687
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 1: but it is still nonetheless a product of their cultural heritage.

1688
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 1: Greco Roman culture, that's where it came from. Every philosopher

1689
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:15,920
Speaker 1: was a homosexual. Plato, Aristotle Epictedtus, that's what they was

1690
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 1: in Roman Catholic Church viewed the women as less than clean.

1691
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 1: That's why they preachers don't get married. So there has

1692
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: always been a disdain for the female energy in European culture,

1693
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: not an African culture. You come to our culture, okay,

1694
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: we believe in equal The man can't survive without the woman.

1695
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 1: In our culture, the woman is given such a position

1696
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: that when you become the king, you have a queen

1697
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: mother who can unseat you if you don't do your

1698
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: job right. You look at our deities, Look at most

1699
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: of the masculine deities. They are born of a feminine

1700
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,840
Speaker 1: mother who gives them the right to have that power.

1701
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: Which is why an African culture, whatever it is, the queen.

1702
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: You see the queen mother over there, because feminine energy

1703
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: was first. God created feminine energy first and then he

1704
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:57,839
Speaker 1: introduced the male. So we never had no gay because

1705
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: at a certain point, homosexual that can be considered a

1706
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: total rejection of feminine energy. Lesbianism can be considered a

1707
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: total rejection of masculine energy. At the basic non sexual level,

1708
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 1: it is a rejection of your opposite. Well, that's a

1709
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: big problem for African people because we believe in a

1710
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: balance of all things. That's our culture. For the for

1711
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,240
Speaker 1: light that's dark, for the sun is the moon, for

1712
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: what it is the land for the yen is the

1713
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 1: yang for the man, for the woman. And if that

1714
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 1: is the essential building block of creation, if you disturb that,

1715
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: you disturb the entire universal order. That's why we oppose

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Speaker 1: to homosexuality. But we can still love the homosexual facts facts.

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Speaker 2: Fact man, Like I say, this has been This has

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Speaker 2: been a very great interview.

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Speaker 3: Man. I really appreciate you coming by anything you want

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Speaker 3: to lead to people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for the people out there, get in contact with

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Speaker 1: doctor Umar Johnson, doctor Umar Johnson dot com. I got

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Speaker 1: a new podcast site. Only one podcast is up right

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Speaker 1: now on ADHD and that's Unapologetically African dot com and

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Speaker 1: of course we spelled Africa with a K. Donate to

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Speaker 1: the school. Please donate to the school. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: raise a million dollars to get the school ready. I

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01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: would love for next school year. You can donate mail

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01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: your check of money or the payable two f DMG

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Speaker 1: Academy p O Box ninety six thirty four, Wilmington, Delaware.

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Speaker 1: I repeat fd MG Academy p O Box ninety six

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Speaker 1: thirty four, Wilmington, Delaware, one nine eight o nine. If

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Speaker 1: you ever need to talk to me, you need a

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Speaker 1: consultation about your child education or mental health is what

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Speaker 1: I do. You can reach me at eight four four

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Speaker 1: four doctor Umar. That's eight four four four doctor Umar

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Speaker 1: or doctor Umar Johnson at yahoo dot com.

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Speaker 3: And before we go, I want to say congratulations on

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Speaker 3: the school.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: I watched it February seventh, seven days before Frederick douglas birth. Wow. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I think he might have shifted that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I saw Before we go, I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you about this.

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Speaker 3: The family of him says.

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01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 1: That was not the family. It was from Roland Martin

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01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 1: when he read that letter. That was not from the family.

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01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: That letter came from one coon in the family. Who

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01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: doesn't occupy any official position with the family. He's just

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01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:15,760
Speaker 1: a jealous negro, period, that's it. Who said that I

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Speaker 1: wasn't related to Frederick Douglas. I'm not even mad at him,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm disappointed in every other member of

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Speaker 1: the family. I've been to the family reunions. Y'all know

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01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,720
Speaker 1: my name is on the tree. You understand. Any one

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01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,719
Speaker 1: of them could have called him up and say, brother,

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01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: don't do that. You know it, like we know.

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Speaker 3: That's still tearing at you, still pulling at.

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01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 1: Somebody because a lot of them don't agree with my

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01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,719
Speaker 1: political views, that they let him go at me, you understand.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I don't go to no more family

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Speaker 1: reunions no more, because I'm like, any one of y'all

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Speaker 1: could have stopped that, and y'all chose not to.

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Speaker 3: So I'm done with it, and you'd allowed his voice

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Speaker 3: for they.

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Speaker 1: Well, but that's the jealousy. Because here here's my thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm related to Frederick Douglass. Bob blood by Blood, the

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Speaker 1: woman and man that raised him, Betsy and Isaac Belly.

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Those are my grandparents like his They his first grandparents.

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Speaker 1: They're my seventh grandparents. But we come from the same loins.

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Speaker 1: I rep Garvey. Well, most people think of Marcus Garvey,

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01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: they think of me. Does that upset that's from Marcus

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Speaker 1: Garvey Jr. His son? No? Does that upset doctor Julius

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Speaker 1: Garvey his other son. No. They love the fact that

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Speaker 1: I'm keeping their father's legacy alive. They ain't never settle

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01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 1: he don't speak for my father. But here I am

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01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 1: related to Frederick that blood and you got Nigros hating,

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01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,360
Speaker 1: But the Garvey family don't do that. I ran into

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01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: Marcus Garvey's cousin in Austin, Texas. He couldn't wait to

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Speaker 1: give me an embrace.

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Speaker 3: And some love those two names voice period.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you why they hate. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you the difference. There's people in our family who

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01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:00,759
Speaker 1: want to be considered the official thing. These on Frederick

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Speaker 1: Douglas as a way to make money. This is about

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01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: It's about money. In other words, they want to get

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01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,759
Speaker 1: speeches to go talk about. They want to get grants.

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01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: You see right, and clearly you're not doing that. You're

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01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 1: making You're getting enough speed. Nobody ever called me up

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Speaker 1: and said we want to pay you to come talk

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Speaker 1: about Frederick Douglas. I don't know doing it because it's

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01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 1: my reputation is purely off of my own work, not

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Speaker 1: my relationship to fred but because I big him up

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Speaker 1: so much and I'm so associated with the name. If

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01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: they do want somebody to talk, why would they get

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Speaker 1: anybody butt me? And that's why they're angry because they

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01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: feel like I'm blocking the economic part. It's about cash

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Speaker 1: right right.

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Speaker 2: Well, with that being said, man, you I know for

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Speaker 2: a fact in hip hop and rap, which is we

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Speaker 2: control the cool.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you are the loudest voice in regards to that.

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Speaker 3: Those two names.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing that we can It's not even close that

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Speaker 2: we know. I'm talking about the boys listening to the

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Speaker 2: just you know, they can change some things. We don't

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Speaker 2: know when we hear Marcus Garvey Frederick Douglass, we're gonna say,

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Speaker 2: doctor Umar Johnson is where we hear that from, you

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01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And so even today you spilling

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Speaker 2: all this stuff about those guys.

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Speaker 3: We don't hear that anyway.

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Speaker 2: There's no other scholar that I know of that we're

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Speaker 2: gonna hear be able to even do that on a

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Speaker 2: level like that, because again, the inflection and just the

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Speaker 2: passion all that. That combination is why you're special.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's why you're able to go in and out and

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01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: float in and out to these cities and countries and

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01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 2: people gravitate to that. Man, that's a very very unique

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01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 2: combination you got, man. And I want to tell you

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Speaker 2: that personally, I don't meet a lot of guys younger

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Speaker 2: or older that I can say I'm impressed with just

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01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 2: the way you're put together. You get what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: And that's a real thing. I can make some money.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many how much of the information

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Speaker 2: I can retain, you know, because man, you're doing that,

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Speaker 2: you gotta be very sure. But but again I want

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Speaker 2: to say thank you for coming out.

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Speaker 3: Man. Hopefully tomorrow you'll have a great time again.

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Speaker 2: Anything y'all need while you here, I don't care what

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Speaker 2: it is, let me know, I'll no matter what it is,

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Speaker 2: I'm slide through. I'm aa slide do mess with y'all

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Speaker 2: for a second. But anything you need I'll send it again.

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Speaker 2: We we uh were signing out like subscribe, come in

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Speaker 2: f O, g f O t V it's up there.

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Speaker 2: Podcast is another great episode. Doctor Mark Johnson s O

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