1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh, outside with the wind holding the phone. This is 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: it from the Athletics joining us right now. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Katie. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Great to see you, and I know you're covering the 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: World Series, but we're going to start with the Saint 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals. Yes, hair is flowing right now, So Katie, 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: let's start with the changes that you wrote about the 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: other day that are going on and how they could 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: be a good thing for a team that was scaling 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: back in some departments in the past. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: Right. 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is some real on side reporting. 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Guys, bear with me from the not so sunny conditions 14 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: in Toronto. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: But let's talk about a little Saint Louis Cardinals. Why not? 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Ahead of Game six of the World Series. 17 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: For those of you who just following along, it's been 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 3: a quiet first month for Saint Louis, but behind the scenes, 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: newly minted President of Baseball Operations High Bloom has been 20 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: working to bolster the front office staff from a player 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: development and scouting perspective. And we know this is going 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: to be important because the Cardinals went out and said 23 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the season that they're going to 24 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: be looking to do kind of a moderate rebuild. And 25 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: when I say rebuild, I want a caution, this is 26 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: not going to be a full tank and tear down 27 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis. 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be. 29 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: But it's more revamping the behind the scenes support staff 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: because from Cardinals ownership down to the Cardinals coaching staff, 31 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: that consensus is the same for Saint Louis to get 32 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: back to where it needs to be a top the 33 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: NL Central and needs to go. 34 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: Back to being a draft and development club. Well, how 35 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: do you do that? 36 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: You continue adding support staff, You go when you expand 37 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: your player acquisition process, you make some changes to pro scouting, 38 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 3: to international scouting. All these changes aren't the additions rather 39 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 3: than subtractions. 40 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: The goal is not cut positions here in Saint Louis. 41 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: It's to add staff, and we're seeing some of those 42 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: changes start to take place all right. 43 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: From my inside man in the Cardinals, I have to ask, 44 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: how the heck did they get to this spot? Was 45 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: this a cutback or from what I heard, they just 46 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: had like a skeleton crew essentially based on what else 47 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 4: is going on in Minor League Baseball crossed the other 48 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: twenty nine teams. So was it just MO and ownership 49 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: not keeping up with the times. Was it complacency with success. 50 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: What was it? I think it was a little bit 51 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: of both. 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: Right, when you're the Cardinals and you're winning consistently as 53 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 3: they were over the past six seven years up till 54 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, you can kind of get away with 55 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: cutting corners, and that's what the Cardinals did with their 56 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: player development staff. Skeleton is a great way for me 57 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: to describe how those staff that staffing process looked up 58 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: until the start of this season. 59 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: The Cardinals just continued to cut coordinators. 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 3: And it really wasn't fair to the staff that was 61 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: still in the player development department because they were just 62 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: asked to do so many things. For comparison, the Cardinals 63 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three had five full time coordinators. In 64 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: the minor leagues, teams like the Brewers, the Dodgers, the 65 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: Mets they have about fifteen. So they were really cut 66 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: very slim in the player development department, and at a 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: time where free agency contracts and trades come with monumental value. 68 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: If you're a mid market team. 69 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: Like the Saint Louis Cardinals, you have to be able 70 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: to draft and develop, and Saint Louis really got away 71 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: from the second part of that. 72 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: The player development was very far behind the scenes. 73 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: It's Wyhein Bloom was brought in as an advisor in 74 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: the first place, and ultimately getting his track record to 75 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay his track record in Boston why the WIT 76 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 3: ownership tied him to be the next president of Baseball Operations. 77 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: We're going to see the same kind of revamping, if 78 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: you will, that the Cardinals did of their player development 79 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: with their scouting. The thing here to remember with the 80 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: scouting is not that they were bearing. I don't think 81 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: the scouting was a problem. They just want to add 82 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 3: more and this is good when you're the Cardinals and 83 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: you're going to try to rebuild your organization from within. 84 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: The more staff members you have, the more scouting. 85 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: Directors, the more player development directors you have, the better 86 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: chances you are of being able to develop that talent. 87 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: And that's going to be the goal in twenty twenty six. 88 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 5: Player development is fantastic. I think that's awesome, But there's 89 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: also an emphasis on player acquisition this winner. Can you 90 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 5: talk a little bit about where and what positions they're 91 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 5: kind of looking for here As. 92 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: You move forward, it's going to be more about pro 93 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 3: scouting and international scouting. Assistant General manager Scouting director Randy Flores, 94 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: his job will remain mostly unchanged. 95 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: The goal is to just get him more support. 96 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: Like we talked about, the more positions you have, the 97 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: more people you have on site, the better your overall 98 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: program can be. So the Cardinals are going to go 99 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: back to having a more firm emphasis in scouting in 100 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 3: Latin America, and our assistant general manager voices Rodriguez, this 101 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 3: is not something that they've lacked on. 102 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 2: They just want to add more people, more eyes. 103 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: When we talked to Heim Bloom in his introductory press 104 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: conference at the end of September, you're seeing a lot 105 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: of organizations kind of shipped away from pro scouting in 106 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: general and lieu of models programming all the analytics, right, 107 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: But the. 108 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: Cardinals decided to retain all seven. 109 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Of their pro scouts and him has said that he 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: would like to ultimately combine both the analytics and the 111 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: actual on site evaluators in a way to hopefully get 112 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,679 Speaker 3: the Cardinals in edge back and scouting at the domestic 113 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: level and at the international level. There doesn't seem to 114 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: be too big of a concern with amateur scouting. The 115 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: Cardinals have done really well in terms of the MLB draft, 116 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: and they also have been aided by two top ten 117 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: picks in the last two years. So now the goal 118 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: is to approve the acquisition process from the major league 119 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 3: level in pro scouting and go back to being a 120 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: force in Latin America, especially as you see you guys, 121 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: most of these teams playing in October have a strong 122 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 3: Latin American presence in terms of scouting. 123 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 4: All right, I have obviously some mo questions, but I 124 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: got a first ask. You're talking about players. Forty two 125 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: million dollars left on Aeronauto's contract. The biggest conversation from 126 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: last offseason gets rebooted for Katie wou for this offseason. 127 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: Does he get traded before December? 128 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 129 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about just republishing all of my stories from 130 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: last trade deadline and just changing the date because it's 131 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 3: going to be pretty much the exact same storyline. 132 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I do think the Cardinals will trade 133 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: Nolan Arnatto this offseason, and I know I said that 134 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: last year and it didn't happen. But this is different. 135 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: Because so many different things are at stake here. One 136 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 3: Arnaut himself is more open to different landing points. Last year, 137 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 3: remember he had just five teams that he would be 138 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: open to waiving his no trade class for it did 139 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: not mean that he would say it for sure as 140 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: the experience and also Cardinals ownership is going to spend 141 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 3: a lot or a significant more money and eat more 142 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: money in that trade, So two things helping the Cardinals 143 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: and Ronado in that favor there. I don't think it 144 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 3: happens before December, though, because what's the rush. The Cardinals 145 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: have all off season to kind of look and find 146 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: a suitor. And it's going to be complicated because, like 147 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: you mentioned, forty two million dollars left on that deal, 148 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: a full note trade clause, and teams have to be 149 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: able to find what I believe to still be an 150 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: elite third baseman. But there has been some obvious signs 151 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: of decline offensively. He spent most most of the second 152 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: half hurt, so there are going to be some performance 153 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: concerns there. Do I think the Cardinals can find a 154 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: match for Arnado, Absolutely. Do I think it's going to 155 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: be one of the first trades they make. Probably not, 156 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: But I would be very surprised, at the risk of 157 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: repeating myself, very very surprised if he was back with 158 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 3: the Cardinals comes from training in twenty six. 159 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: Wow, we're in a time machine, Katie Wu dressed up 160 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 4: as a time machine. We just went back to December 161 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: twenty twenty fourth. Thank you for reporting to us, Katie Wu. 162 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: My question is five years from now, your time machine 163 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 4: goes five years ahead? Is Jamozlak a Hall of Fame GM? 164 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: And have Cardinals fans gotten away from the recency bias 165 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 4: and actually looked at his entire tenure for what this 166 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: man has done for Cardinals baseball? 167 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: I would hope. So. 168 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: I understand the Mo fatigue, and I'm sure Cardinals fans 169 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: that's probably the last name they want to hear right now. 170 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: I do think there is some genuine excitement over him blue, 171 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: even if the fan base maybe not doesn't necessarily understand 172 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: fully what this reval process is going. 173 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: To look like just yet. 174 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: But it will all come down to, I think, how 175 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: the Cardinals do over the last five years, which is 176 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: ultimately not fair to Mow because he will be a 177 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: part of it. But when you look at his overall 178 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: tenure for the Saint Louis Cardinals and what he accomplished, 179 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: not just as an executive in Saint Louis, but as 180 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: an executive in baseball that I think is a it's 181 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: at least a Cardinal Red jacket worthy career, and he's 182 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: done so much for this organization. It's hard to see 183 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: that right now, given where the current state of the 184 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: Cardinals stand. But five years from now, I do think 185 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: that the recency bias maybe will be a little more 186 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: tempered and we can overall, we can look at his 187 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 3: ten overall and say, you know what, that's a pretty 188 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: good run he had here in Saint Louis. 189 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: Katie, I set you up, though. Sorry, I am grew 190 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: and I definitely am very sneaky with my questions. In 191 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 4: five years, is John Mozelack actually a GM for another team? 192 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: Ooh, you know, I don't. I don't know. 193 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: I think there's he's always going to be a part 194 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 3: of Major League Baseball. I think he's gonna take this 195 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: well deserved er off. But some guys are baseball lifers, 196 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: and most trucks me as one of those guys. And 197 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: he hasn't necessarily said that he would not entertain another 198 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: job in baseball. I think he'd actually be a really 199 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: good fit working for the league or in the commissioner's opposite. 200 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: That's something that he'd like to do, whether it's overseen 201 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 3: in another baseball organization. I find that hard to see 202 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: right now, but hey, sometimes you have to be away 203 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 3: from something long enough to really start to miss it. 204 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: My inclination tells me now. But I do think we'll 205 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: see him back in baseball in the next five year. 206 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 5: You're in Toronto switching gears here a little bit. Do 207 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 5: you see these Blue Jays team closed in the door? 208 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 5: Did the Dodgers come away with Game six er or 209 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: Yamamoto on the mound? 210 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: I think the Dodgers saving grace is that Yamamoto is 211 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: on the mound right now. When you look at that 212 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: Dodgers offense, I think when you've been looking at Los 213 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 3: Angeles maybe it's like just a casual fan, you'd be 214 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: surprised to see. 215 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: This offense the way there it is. 216 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 3: But this is something that the Dodgers offensive struggled with 217 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: throughout the season going into. 218 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 2: These really just dismal lack of production here. 219 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: Yamamoto, though, is the guy that you want to start 220 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: if you're the Dodgers tonight because. 221 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: He has been. 222 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: Did our Canadian internet. 223 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the Dodgers will, uh, we'll 224 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: pull this one out. 225 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: But that offense, that's a that's a big concern. 226 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: Guys. 227 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, we got a little we got a 228 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: little bit of a bump on the Canadian internet. There 229 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 4: you're outside internet at the Lulu Bar. Hurt us a 230 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: little bit. One more, one more world serious question for me, 231 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 4: is there a scenario where this game tonight doesn't end 232 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: in a walk off for the Blue Jays? Do you 233 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: think the Blue Jays come out and play this as like, 234 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: oh yeah, we can just we can get to Yamamoto, 235 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: we can like to me and we've talked about and 236 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: you've mentioned it. Yamamoto has been dominant and he has 237 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: he is gonna be the Dodgers saving grace. Is there 238 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: a scenario where the Blue Jays cake walk to a 239 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: World Series here tonight? 240 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't think Blake Snell threw poorly in 241 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: Game five, but they ambushed him pretty quickly off the start. 242 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: I don't see them doing that with Yamamoto, just because 243 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: of what he looked like his last two appearances. 244 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: But this Blue Jays team. 245 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: As someone who didn't really watch a lot of American 246 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: le ball this year up until the postseason, they have 247 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: really surprised just how relentless, resilient, and they have all 248 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: the energy and all the momentum here. 249 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 2: So it'd be tough because all Yamamoto has done at this. 250 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 3: Point in his career again, whether it's Statesha or in Japan, 251 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: is delivering big moments like this. 252 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: But this, this Blue jay Is team has. 253 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: Shown already they should be absolutely taken seriously. They have power, 254 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: they have ways to get on base. They when they 255 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 3: get hot, they're hot. And this is exactly where they 256 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: are right now. So I've said this to a compelling game. 257 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: They had been pretty much from the start. But I 258 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: still think it goes seven guys, and I think the 259 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Blue Jays win it in seven. 260 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 4: Katie, thank you for all your coverage of the Cardinals 261 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 4: this year, but now you're coverage of the World Series. 262 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 4: If you were to dress up as somebody for Halloween, 263 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: who would it be? 264 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, something warm because I'm freezing out here. 265 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 266 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: If I would have known this with a Halloween episode, 267 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 3: I would have fowned something on. 268 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: So give me a heads up next time, you guys. 269 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: Okay, next time, next time on Halloween, we will give 270 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: you a heads up. But we appreciate you braving the 271 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: cold outside in Canada, and good luck and join the 272 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: World Series. 273 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, we'll talk soon. 274 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: The old card experience was a slow burn, long grind. Right, 275 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: find the box, find the pack you want, open the pack. 276 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: Most of the cards? 277 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 3: Nah? 278 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: Right, you got one that's worth something, Now send it 279 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: in for grading. I mean, the list goes on and 280 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: you want to sell it now, you got to put 281 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: it up. Then you got to ship it out. There's 282 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: one solution for that, and. 283 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 5: It's called Arena Club and it's just on a click 284 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 5: of a dime. You get on your computer, you type 285 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 5: in get the Arena Club app. Go on there, type in, 286 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: put some money in and type in exactly what kind 287 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: of cards you want and while la. It's a great experience, 288 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 5: and I think that's what people miss nowadays, the experience, 289 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: the excitement of getting a new card. You never know 290 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 5: what you're gonna get, an autograph card, anything you could 291 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: think of, really cool stuff. 292 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: You can get twenty percent off your first slab pack 293 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: or card purchase at arenaclub dot com. Slash foul. See 294 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: what gets Todd father so excited when he gets that 295 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: digital slab pack. It's like butter Baby. 296 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: Todd. 297 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: Tony, this is the manager of the San Francisco Giants. 298 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: I don't think we've had you on since he was 299 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: announced as the hiring. I think it was a first 300 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: of all, what is your opinion of bringing on a 301 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 4: big league manager as or a college college head coach? 302 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: I was mixed up head coach and manager. To be 303 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: a big league manager, I think. 304 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. 305 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you. He's paving away for 306 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: some of these college coaches to undoubtedly get a job 307 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: in the major leagues. Now, this is going to be 308 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: a huge step for these guys to get this opportunity. 309 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: Tony's the guy like this is the stepping stone here. 310 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 5: If this doesn't pay off, then we don't know what's 311 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: gonna happen next with college coaches. I mean it's unheard of. 312 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 5: You don't see this very often, if not before. The 313 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 5: guy talks about vision, and I think people hear that 314 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 5: word vision. Oh, everybody has a dream of vision. But 315 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 5: when you have a vision and goal and aspirations not 316 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 5: only be a manager, but to be a really good man. 317 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 5: We've seen his track record, it's pretty dark good. We've 318 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: seen his energy. He's gonna bring it every day. And 319 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm one of those guys that used to talk all 320 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 5: the time. Cratty and the Doug you know me, we 321 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 5: played together there. I always kept telling myself three hours 322 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 5: of havoc RecA it, you know, talk bring energy to 323 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 5: the boys. And I think this is what's gonna happen. 324 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: There's gonna be a couple of innings where they're not 325 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: doing well. He's gonna go to the guys, let's go 326 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: pick it up. Some guys might take that the wrong way, 327 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: just because they're pros pros, but guess what some teams 328 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: need that they need a kick in the button, a boost. 329 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 5: And I am, you know, seeing some of the quotes here, 330 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 5: I was like, you know, in this one, Vytla, you 331 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 5: may get the opportunities, but I don't know if you'll 332 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 5: have a boss like Buster Posey. I thought that was 333 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: pretty cool. First year guy in Buster Posey, I played 334 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: with him. How exciting of a guy he is too. 335 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: He talks about vision, he's a winner. He's a winner, 336 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: and I honestly can't wait to see if he changes 337 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: his coaching techniques as he moves forward, you know, during 338 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 5: spring training coming up next year. 339 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 4: The beauty of a big league season is one hundred 340 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: and sixty two games he play. I think they had 341 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: seventy three games the year they won a National championship, 342 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: including regular season in postseason, but I could be wrong. 343 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 4: I thought that's what it said. They're gonna know if 344 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: this press conference where he said all the right words 345 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 4: he said, you know, I was dissecting and consuming a 346 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: lot of ideas and the words that came to me, 347 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: like all that stuff is gonna get washed away. All 348 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: I've heard about Tony Vittello is what a great guy 349 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: he is, and that's from ex players, that's from other coaches, 350 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: But nobody really likes competing against him, which is a 351 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: positive thing. But one hundred and sixty two games plus 352 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: six weeks of spring training, you're gonna know what this 353 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: person really is. I think that's where some managers that 354 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 4: have been managers recently and fallen off and really haven't 355 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: re emerged as managers, they kind of put this front 356 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: out there. So if I were to give in advice 357 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: to Tony Vittello and tell him what the big leagues 358 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: is like, the big leagues is like a grind. The 359 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: big leagues is like a relationship, with your wife, with 360 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 4: you know, somebody that you're committed to, because at the 361 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 4: end of one hundred and sixty two games, you want 362 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: to make the playoffs. You want to get the most 363 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: out of every one of your players. He's not going 364 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: to take a single at bat. He's going to have 365 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: to believe in the stuff that he's telling them, and 366 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 4: he's going to have to have hard conversations with guys. 367 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: To me, I think it's one of those things that 368 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 4: he has no big lead experience, but he has a 369 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: lot of people experience and a lot of baseball experience. 370 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: So my hope is that the two words that he 371 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 4: came up with from his press conference, risk and challenge. 372 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: He's willing to risk, you know, being humbled in situations, 373 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 4: but he also needs to challenge people. So I think 374 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 4: it's something that I like the press conference. I thought 375 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: he seemed very genuine and ultimately he could really suck. 376 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: But if Buster Posey picked him. 377 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 5: I'm on board with yeah, and I totally agree. Only 378 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: time will tell.