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Speaker 1: podcast and I'm with my homeboys Jack, Jill and Man
Speaker 1: Tonight we got a very special guest. Man. He's aware
Speaker 1: of respected individual not only Lost Angeles, but throughout the
Speaker 1: United States and the rest of the world. He's the
Speaker 1: owner of unique records and unique entertainment. He's giving us
Speaker 1: our first glimpse of artists such as the late Nipsey
Speaker 1: Hustler Corrupt. He's also a hell of a community activist.
Speaker 1: In his nonprofit, Developing Options, conduct several activities for the
Speaker 1: city's youth, and he's pushing the area against gang violence, crime,
Speaker 1: and drug abuse. That's welcome. Eugene Henley, also known to
Speaker 1: the rest of the world is Big Youth. What you
Speaker 1: what's happening with you? Man? Man, I'm good. What's good?
Speaker 1: What's the word? Man? What we're gonna do about this football? Man? Man?
Speaker 1: And man, my, you know what's crazy. Some of my
Speaker 1: my receivers that turned the linement. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: switch it up and do stuff. And I see and
Speaker 1: my linement that turned to digg lnement. Yeah, it's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: You know you we were just talking about the football thing. Man.
Speaker 1: And I got to commend you man on what you're
Speaker 1: doing over there, man for developing with Developing Options. Man,
Speaker 1: and I found that was something just to date, man,
Speaker 1: you developed that after you did your prison stint. Man,
Speaker 1: was that something that you thought about when you was
Speaker 1: inside and nothing thinking about you was gonna start changing
Speaker 1: the community around definitely? Um, when not what I did
Speaker 1: with developing nice and I already talked about and planning
Speaker 1: it out when I was when I was in there.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, And you've done a lot of stuff with that, man,
Speaker 1: I know. Um, people always table tendency to think about
Speaker 1: the football when they think about what people doing their
Speaker 1: nonpross and everything. But you coordinate a whole lot of
Speaker 1: different services for the community. Man, m hmm, yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: We do football, we do community, community get back. We're
Speaker 1: currently feeding the elderly every week. Um, we do a
Speaker 1: lot of food drives. Like we're real strong around Christmas
Speaker 1: time and trying to help everybody have a good Christmas.
Speaker 1: All done the Muslim Montal practice. And but I tend
Speaker 1: to try to want to see you know, people have
Speaker 1: some specially little kids have something that they can't have
Speaker 1: nothing at that time, we focused a lot of energy
Speaker 1: on that. Um. But more than anything, man, it's really
Speaker 1: like you know with the Gang of Eventure just being
Speaker 1: an example of of how red, blue and green and
Speaker 1: all can can that marriage together and get along. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've always been a big voice in that. Man. What
Speaker 1: did you think we can do as a society, man
Speaker 1: to just make that better? Man? Just all start living
Speaker 1: as black men. Man. It's crazy because we just had
Speaker 1: like in the last nine were the last six months, Man,
Speaker 1: we had a bigger spike that we didn't had in years,
Speaker 1: like in in in decades. Right with with with with
Speaker 1: the violeus and the violus is different because right now
Speaker 1: it's neighborhood on neighborhood. Its neighborhoods fighting that didn't never
Speaker 1: fight each other. And I think that comes because of
Speaker 1: the the youth. Like when we was younger, we understood
Speaker 1: and we honor. We had a little more respect on
Speaker 1: how we do it. These kids don't have that, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's not that they don't have respect for the
Speaker 1: elders are their homeboys. It's just that it's not really
Speaker 1: no honoring. And I was crazy I had to say that,
Speaker 1: but it's not no honoring mong thieves. You never thought
Speaker 1: about taking some boxing gloves to the neighborhood and uh
Speaker 1: get them up, man, Look that this is the problem
Speaker 1: it's not you know what I mean. These niggas ain't fighting.
Speaker 1: The nigga's gone then from using all these different drugs.
Speaker 1: They ain't none of they know they can't fight. It's
Speaker 1: only one or two of the kid. But if you
Speaker 1: look at these kids, these casts, man, these cast is
Speaker 1: this seeing that right? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: it's because it was ship they put into their system.
Speaker 1: And you gotta remember, man like and this this is
Speaker 1: the real key. When we was younger, it wasn't it
Speaker 1: wasn't fashionable. We used in cocaine, tuning and and and
Speaker 1: tuning and smoking and taking all appeals. That's what we
Speaker 1: didn't do. We looked we looked at that as bullshit.
Speaker 1: For you to be indulging in that lifestyle and want
Speaker 1: to be a gangster claiming the neighborhood. You was looked off. You.
Speaker 1: You were straight up as the clockhead. You feel me,
Speaker 1: the clockhead. Now we're living in the air. We're living
Speaker 1: in the air with these dudes is older heads and
Speaker 1: all this ship in this in the state thing, you know,
Speaker 1: and um, you get seven eight of them is doing
Speaker 1: the same thing. They got a crew that's a crue,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pull up on minds, but it ain't. Dudes can't
Speaker 1: do that everywhere else, right, Yeah, exactly, And like you said,
Speaker 1: the drugs big thing because these cats, they're not on
Speaker 1: y'all you're smoking weed, man, They on the lane um
Speaker 1: snort and cocaine. Now, of course, like you said, cocaine
Speaker 1: wasn't fashionable when we was coming up. You was like
Speaker 1: eight said, he was a cluck if you was doing that.
Speaker 1: And it's definitely the drugs man. You know, you hear
Speaker 1: a lot more music. You know, back in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties it was you know, it was frowned down
Speaker 1: upum man. Not the music is condoned and everything, and
Speaker 1: it's pretty much put out there in front of our
Speaker 1: kids at an alarming rate. Well, you know, our music,
Speaker 1: our music, our music promoted promoted using marijuana, but we
Speaker 1: didn't promote using cocaine. So we're in that middle. The
Speaker 1: music before us that we grew up on. They was
Speaker 1: talking about heron Angel does PCP. They was talking about
Speaker 1: all of that, but our music what what he was
Speaker 1: talking about? Pushing it? Yeah, what do you what a
Speaker 1: big you? What do you think it leads the kids
Speaker 1: into that role of advocation, sipping on Lean now and
Speaker 1: the motherfucking doing all the drugs that they promote with
Speaker 1: a popular music, it's it's it's popular music like it's
Speaker 1: popular music like right now on the South zone. So
Speaker 1: if you remember that Lean came from there, right that
Speaker 1: that that Lean and treads, you can see we used
Speaker 1: to dictate the culture. To look at the culture Penalton's
Speaker 1: Khaki's five ones golf hats. We dictated that for a
Speaker 1: whole era. So but when you look at it now,
Speaker 1: our kids look and sound like they're from the South. Yes,
Speaker 1: real ship because Lean and and and and taking this
Speaker 1: and and and and justin Lean didn't come from us.
Speaker 1: That's some ship that came from the South. We dictated
Speaker 1: all of that, man, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy and it's out of controls. The epidemic right now,
Speaker 1: we're losing a lot of people. It's like this opioid
Speaker 1: epidemic is like the crack epidemic was in the eighties.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people falling off man from that stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: between them pills and that leaning stuff, because it's all
Speaker 1: here when at the end of the day, right, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all here, and at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta you gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: reach the young cats in the neighborhood, especially with you
Speaker 1: Big Year. You got a lot of influence over there.
Speaker 1: So you can't pull up. You can pull up and
Speaker 1: and and put them the niggers in the huddle and
Speaker 1: hold a conversation. Most of the big homies, these little
Speaker 1: cats don't respect the big homies no more. The big
Speaker 1: homies can't tell them ship because they don't want to
Speaker 1: hear it. They want to get down like they get down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the way they dressed. Now, they're
Speaker 1: sagging way harder than than we came back in the days.
Speaker 1: And that ain't even at even like real talk. I
Speaker 1: look at these dudes, man, that don't mean that no more. Ye,
Speaker 1: the way these dudes where they closed don't even it.
Speaker 1: Don't represent like we used to represent. Saggy used to
Speaker 1: need something U sagument that you was banging ship. Sagging
Speaker 1: was like I know, if me a horseman. In ninety
Speaker 1: seventy nine, when hip hop first came, we couldn't wear
Speaker 1: a cake. It was all the different ways we tried
Speaker 1: to represent you couldn't wear the rags no more. But
Speaker 1: it took the rags. You'll get the writer for the rag.
Speaker 1: I came with the cake cutter. You'll get the Rider
Speaker 1: family cake. If you had a cake cut out to
Speaker 1: a left pocket, right pocket, they write you up for that.
Speaker 1: Then we tried to put studs on our pants and
Speaker 1: put six dozen put studs on one side and put
Speaker 1: up golf hast to the side there right, you up
Speaker 1: for the The only thing they could not write us
Speaker 1: up with for a Horseman middle school was if we
Speaker 1: left for our building home on that you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you say, you know, give me the rid. I love
Speaker 1: my bill. Remember we cut our pants up. Then they
Speaker 1: give you a sword or they give you a need
Speaker 1: with thread t sow that shut up right there, yeah,
Speaker 1: right to me. I don't know where nobody else sag
Speaker 1: and came from. And that's definitely where we got sag
Speaker 1: It from. Because they couldn't tell us nothing. You know
Speaker 1: what they couldn't tell us like we pull your pants
Speaker 1: and we pull our pants that we still you're gonna
Speaker 1: see them see the underwear and see what we gotta.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see something. But so today I look at
Speaker 1: these dudes. Man, you think it's just they just show
Speaker 1: their ass everybody, all of them that I honestly to
Speaker 1: make a second hard with shi things in their draws. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just during But it's it's a shame though. So how
Speaker 1: do you react to those little cats over there? Because
Speaker 1: then look what I'm gonna say this man, And you
Speaker 1: always cheat you home. It's always a given a take,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's never nothing perfect. We
Speaker 1: ain't perfect. I ain't perfect. I'm not living a perfect life, man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm striving forward, bettering everything
Speaker 1: that I do and greatness and everything that I do.
Speaker 1: I know they respect me because they see where I
Speaker 1: am and they see I'm still right here. I'm still
Speaker 1: up tainable, I'm still touching, but I'm still in the hood.
Speaker 1: I'm still I still live in the hood. I live
Speaker 1: right on top of the hill. I'm still obtainable if
Speaker 1: you want to get somewhere. So it's it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you you respect the dude that's around. You know what
Speaker 1: I means, You expect the dude who who's showing you
Speaker 1: would have grown. Man can do like I'm around, but
Speaker 1: I ain't around like I'm buying property over here. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm actually in one of my properties right now in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. And know that I just got about a
Speaker 1: year ago, and I'm just chilling right here. We're gonna
Speaker 1: start building this out and change this out. A couple
Speaker 1: of months. I was waiting for line up the line
Speaker 1: and line for the building. But they understand. They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: you're big on me, you know what I mean, He
Speaker 1: right here, first generation, and still I give him a
Speaker 1: couple of them if I have to. But they got
Speaker 1: to respect that, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 1: ain't no need gonna you know, you're need gonna tell
Speaker 1: me he ain't listening to me. And I said that
Speaker 1: because I feel like Nigga, I was here first and
Speaker 1: I ain't never fell on. So when I fall off,
Speaker 1: then you can say you ain't listening to me, Nigga,
Speaker 1: but you ain't gore to come around here, and you
Speaker 1: ain't been around here for ten years. And now you've
Speaker 1: been around here ten years, Nigga, been around fifty and
Speaker 1: now you now, I ain't on the block. Ain't gonna
Speaker 1: tell you how to run the block. But I daitily
Speaker 1: gonna come and say, like, man, look, why are we
Speaker 1: beating with these names? And what'st up with this? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna definitely say that, I'm gonna definitely get it,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: g niggas. I don't want to have to go through that.
Speaker 1: And I can respect that, but it's necessary for somebody
Speaker 1: to be there a common fortunate. I mean, when we
Speaker 1: was younger man coming up and we was going to
Speaker 1: get in the tour with other dudes that we got
Speaker 1: along with the homies and be like, man, hold on, man,
Speaker 1: y'all slow up right, you know what I mean. Don't
Speaker 1: don't go over there tripping on them niggas. We've been
Speaker 1: get along to the niggas for years, man, don't. And
Speaker 1: that's always right. Well, you don't have a plan like
Speaker 1: that in the neighborhood no more. And you know, like
Speaker 1: the ship isn't going on in company right now. These
Speaker 1: cast is dropping like flies, just killing each other for nothing.
Speaker 1: And you know, I believe you can never You ain't
Speaker 1: gonna never be able to stop gang banking. That ship
Speaker 1: is just there. But you gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: fix how the ship is going right now. And and
Speaker 1: and nobody got a solution for that. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Because I got a solution for it. What's
Speaker 1: that we gotta get involved. That's for real, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you like this real talk. It's more niggas
Speaker 1: is not doing the bullshit, then it is niggas is
Speaker 1: doing the bullshit on any given time on the streets.
Speaker 1: That's the fact, because if a nigger is doing the bullshit,
Speaker 1: he's evasically gonna get locked up. So at any given
Speaker 1: time there are more niggas from every set that's not
Speaker 1: on the bullshit it on the streets just free. Then
Speaker 1: the niggas just is you got gang bangers and got
Speaker 1: gang members. Yep, you got you got some some cash,
Speaker 1: more into the game banging ship than the other ones.
Speaker 1: Is some niggas ain't gonna getting no car and go,
Speaker 1: you know, drive by. You know what I'm saying, They
Speaker 1: just ain't gonna do it. And then you got the
Speaker 1: hit us. You know what I'm saying, Them the ones
Speaker 1: you gotta talk to. But them the ones that don't
Speaker 1: want to listen. But every neighborhood only got about keeping
Speaker 1: one hunting. Every neighborhood got too three clicks of the
Speaker 1: kid as it depends on beating the neighborhood is and
Speaker 1: then you know what I'm saying, you only get you.
Speaker 1: It ain't every neighborhood ain't clicked on where everybody's going.
Speaker 1: Now something can happen to you can hit the right
Speaker 1: nigga in a certain neighborhood and now everybody's gathernized and going,
Speaker 1: and then that's the last for a period. But just
Speaker 1: on a regular basis, it's not you know, every nigga
Speaker 1: that is going, so to keep it one hunted with
Speaker 1: everything everybody, it could be changed. It ain't over because
Speaker 1: and the reason why I really why I would never
Speaker 1: say it's over and it's not doable, is because we
Speaker 1: did it in the Pan, did in the Pan for years,
Speaker 1: doing it in there. They're still doing it in there.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch each other. But when you come home,
Speaker 1: it's right back to the same thing. If if if
Speaker 1: brothers brought that home, that same mentality home with him. No,
Speaker 1: they're just saying, how we're getting down. We ain't get
Speaker 1: we gotta look out for each other. But how how
Speaker 1: do we change that? Those mentality from the niggas who
Speaker 1: come home and want to be on that But the
Speaker 1: niggas who still stuck on. Like you said, how do
Speaker 1: we change nigga's motherfucking mind. Well, you gotta look at
Speaker 1: it like this eight gangbanging has has has took a
Speaker 1: turn for the worst. You got you got gang bangers
Speaker 1: with gang bangers like on some faulty ship. You've got
Speaker 1: guys that's dying their hair and when ends with twelve
Speaker 1: zippers you got. I mean, it's just so fucking different.
Speaker 1: Why gang bang? If this is the look and this
Speaker 1: is the way. You know what I'm saying, you got
Speaker 1: you and and I don't want to bring it up,
Speaker 1: but you got cats. I don't know if they're coming
Speaker 1: from prison with this motherfucking attitude or mentality or you know,
Speaker 1: messing with boys. You know what I'm saying. That's not
Speaker 1: everyday thing in the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So and and a lot of these cats is getting
Speaker 1: locked up on g P ship, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And they just don't have nobody to guide them the
Speaker 1: right way, you know what I'm saying. And and everybody
Speaker 1: out there, the majority of think that you have to
Speaker 1: do a drive by to be solidified in the hood.
Speaker 1: That's not what it is. You have to put in work. No, no,
Speaker 1: everybody ain't built for that. The answer is really in us, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really can't. And and it's crazy because I hear
Speaker 1: dudes talking all the time like we're trying to get
Speaker 1: a program to go into the county jail, right to
Speaker 1: try to address the phase. You gotta go in and
Speaker 1: get three phase and all this and all that. Then
Speaker 1: these things just getting these phase coming out and feeling like,
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't go their way or they're feeling
Speaker 1: feeling some kind of way about it. So we're trying
Speaker 1: to create a program to help that. That was that
Speaker 1: way in my mind, and my mind. It called me
Speaker 1: and asked me what was one way I felt we
Speaker 1: can affect change in South Central and the fact and
Speaker 1: I said that stop the phase, go into the county jail.
Speaker 1: Stop these nigs from comedy and get beat up. Dudes,
Speaker 1: get beat up who don't know they ain't even really
Speaker 1: from thehood. They just grew up and they asked him
Speaker 1: to tell them over the wrong place where they grew up.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta get a phade, three phades. You gotta
Speaker 1: get beat up. You might get stabbed if you win
Speaker 1: too many fights. You can't win because you're in you're
Speaker 1: in a bad situation. So if you win, you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your ass kicked. When they're doing that,
Speaker 1: that boxing program and and focusing on solid Dad, then
Speaker 1: they have a boxing program like that. Now that ain't
Speaker 1: the boxing program. When you come to the county jail
Speaker 1: right now, if you from certain neighborhoods, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: some phades. And ain't no boxing program we got, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they got to non affiliate, non affiliate fights. But what
Speaker 1: so this is just something. This is another program then
Speaker 1: I'm getting involved in to help go address those things
Speaker 1: just happening within the county jail, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so we're trying to put something together to get
Speaker 1: to get inside there, to to to you know, affect
Speaker 1: changing there. Then they're about affecting change out here, because
Speaker 1: on the west side of l A when Nikkas come home,
Speaker 1: you know, from Inglewood all the way to the east side.
Speaker 1: If you didn't, if you didn't, you you affiliated with
Speaker 1: neighborhood or the neighborhood cord against the cards on and
Speaker 1: and and and you're gonna get touched. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick commercial break. We'll be back still. James eight.
Speaker 1: Y'all neggas better give me my fire, Donald, I put
Speaker 1: that on set. I need to go give me some Wateramera,
Speaker 1: my motherfucking feet, fucking with me, gangster chronicles of my
Speaker 1: ass pay granted her money, just gangster granny. Y'all know
Speaker 1: me where you are dealing with, dealing with the music
Speaker 1: and ship and where we come from and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like how you feel when niggas say, um,
Speaker 1: the music that we put out in our time or whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you feel you're responsible for what you are participating
Speaker 1: in or the music they pushed it? Do you feel
Speaker 1: responsible because of what you went through and what you
Speaker 1: pushed as far as you know, with nipsy or with corrupt.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, man, I feel more responsible
Speaker 1: for the game the music, Yeah, but I feel more
Speaker 1: responsible for just the game app attack, like the affiliation.
Speaker 1: I feel that bothers me more than than than than
Speaker 1: the music. Just my involvement in in gang life as
Speaker 1: a whole is more what makes me not sleep, what
Speaker 1: makes me trying to continue to do what I'm doing
Speaker 1: and to get to heaven. It there's a there's a
Speaker 1: heaven and yamicky, y'am I want to go. So I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't pretty much tend to like saying music, although
Speaker 1: I feel like, like I said earlier today, music there's
Speaker 1: a great responsibility for violence along with the film, because see,
Speaker 1: the music is the tender box of the mind, that
Speaker 1: is you a vision of violence, but the actual cinema
Speaker 1: photography gives you the actual picture of death. I could
Speaker 1: talk about in the song uh rolling down, killing and
Speaker 1: doing with all this ship, but but leath the weapon.
Speaker 1: The movie um um fucking King of New York had
Speaker 1: more of a daunking effect on me than any rep
Speaker 1: Zone because when I've seen dude and lethal weapon working
Speaker 1: them nine millimeters at seventeen eighteen nineteen Harbor, I was
Speaker 1: when I seen uh, Laura's Fishburne and King of New
Speaker 1: York working to nine millimeters, I'm like she and we
Speaker 1: was already in the streets. But before that, we had
Speaker 1: already all seen guy fire, We had already seen how
Speaker 1: they deal. We had already grew up on Clint Eastwood.
Speaker 1: So these is the pictures. Well we came with was
Speaker 1: just the rap music. So niggas was killing well before
Speaker 1: rap music got to here right so true? You know
Speaker 1: you while we're on music right now, what makes you?
Speaker 1: Because you have unique records and unique entertainment, when did
Speaker 1: you kick the music? But I was I was just
Speaker 1: like every last one of us on this phone. Man.
Speaker 1: They had to see the choir. They had a drums.
Speaker 1: Everyone us had a drum set. Yeah you know, I'm
Speaker 1: saying we all had. We all had something that we
Speaker 1: picked though. That did it. We all sun with the
Speaker 1: homies before we got four, before we was four, or
Speaker 1: full game before we was til we all thought we
Speaker 1: was gonna be like the tempt tasos did that, and
Speaker 1: we did, then we'd be walking thanking you. I was
Speaker 1: old of us, you know, I tell people on time, man,
Speaker 1: we all grew up the same. Man. We were children
Speaker 1: of the South who moved to her parents moved to
Speaker 1: the West to find something better, and uh so we
Speaker 1: all grew up exactly the same. I'm not the nigger
Speaker 1: who think I grew up different than nobody else. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm I'm the guy who feels like everything I did,
Speaker 1: we all did it. And then we all plucked at
Speaker 1: different opportunities to slow different thoughts down and made them
Speaker 1: things manifest in a different way. I think only one
Speaker 1: thing that separated me from everybody else was martial arts.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's it, and that's where it starts
Speaker 1: and it stops because martial arts and studying fighting and
Speaker 1: martial arts, it gave me a different swag and a
Speaker 1: different confidence when I was around people. But other than that,
Speaker 1: that's exactly where it stops. Like who anybody can pick
Speaker 1: up a gun, anybody can go to jail, and don't
Speaker 1: tell anybody can go fight and do this anybody. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that's the only thing that's separated me. And
Speaker 1: because I think because of that confidence it gave me
Speaker 1: and my crew, because all of us knew it, and
Speaker 1: all of us was on the a G which was
Speaker 1: in the sixties, and we all knew how to fight.
Speaker 1: We all like, I'm a black belt and my cousins
Speaker 1: was all built it up. We all went to go fight.
Speaker 1: We trained, we we we we If you got a trouble,
Speaker 1: you gotta trumble to critischool. So you have six niggas
Speaker 1: who are all first cousins who came run who all
Speaker 1: even if it were three of us and we were
Speaker 1: in the room with twenty niggas were feeling like U yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, so that gave us a different swag, and
Speaker 1: that gave a roll the sixties a different swag when
Speaker 1: we went places and people made us roll the sixties
Speaker 1: or we was aligned with that, so we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: what we're doing and we you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that was the I feel like that's the only difference.
Speaker 1: And opportunities. I didn't have a lot of opportunities. Man.
Speaker 1: We came up hustling like everybody else, and we was
Speaker 1: on the West side, so we kind of took our opportunities, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So at what point did you say, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I got some little homies over here, this rapp and everything.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start unique records. Who was your first artist?
Speaker 1: Papa l Q n right there man, nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1: To tell you, look, I don't even I didn't get him.
Speaker 1: He got me. Papi Q signed me. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you I came on nine eighty nine and ninetiest and
Speaker 1: and and and hate to tell you when when Papa
Speaker 1: l Q had that hit song the B Side, I
Speaker 1: ran into him in the Fox Hill More. I was
Speaker 1: in the Fox Tea mall he walked into me. Just
Speaker 1: got a motherfucker. He got a flat top and he
Speaker 1: walked into me. Say, I was with a couple of
Speaker 1: the homies. You know, we've mobbed in the Foxy Maro
Speaker 1: thatime like, welcome to me through all the squad. He're like,
Speaker 1: what's up so you And I'm like, what's up? I
Speaker 1: mean like you you used to work for my pops.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's the word for your pops, Like, man,
Speaker 1: hain't the work for nobody. Ben was saving but I'm
Speaker 1: looking at that and he only could have only been seventeen,
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen, and he said, yeah, man, used to work
Speaker 1: for my pops. And see what's your post name? He said,
Speaker 1: Mr Green? I said, O G. Green? He said, I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I doesn't work for your pop. But anyway, nevertheless, man,
Speaker 1: your post is how are you doing? Because his father
Speaker 1: just got locked up and he knew I had a bag,
Speaker 1: so he came to me in eighty nine, eighty nine ninety.
Speaker 1: It was like, I want you to start managing me
Speaker 1: once you start halping with my music. I had no
Speaker 1: clue about music, didn't give a damn about music. I
Speaker 1: was in the morning, I was getting the bag out
Speaker 1: of Minnesota, and you know, so he started actually he
Speaker 1: come to my house, him and Mike tyson nephew, and
Speaker 1: now he asked me every time he's doing the video
Speaker 1: of going to the videos with learned a little bit
Speaker 1: more about the video. I'm showing up at shows with
Speaker 1: him going to shows. So I started getting it to
Speaker 1: it and then my Broomfield came shortly after that. It
Speaker 1: was like, Bro funk with me on the on the
Speaker 1: homie Corrupt, and I'm like, all right, but I was
Speaker 1: I'd already be going in out of town messing with
Speaker 1: the Quan, and the Quan was on another level at
Speaker 1: that time. He was he was flying high. So then
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna mess with Corrupt. And that's
Speaker 1: when I started dealing with Corrupt. And we was in
Speaker 1: the process of getting the paperwork together, doing everything, and
Speaker 1: I left. I got I got kidnapped, and I was
Speaker 1: gone for thirty years. But because of me and Corrupt,
Speaker 1: small relationship it it stayed with it with Corrupt, and
Speaker 1: and Corrupt didn't even have to shout me out. Bro.
Speaker 1: He didn't owe me nothing. I hadn't gave no money
Speaker 1: one thing I did a corrup I call grew up
Speaker 1: in the car with the little homies and they are
Speaker 1: about to go get cracked. And I told him, I said, man,
Speaker 1: ain't you the rapper because you know, you know you
Speaker 1: can't come how Let mean, I was on my ignor
Speaker 1: ship halfway on and off and I'm like, ain't you
Speaker 1: the rapper? Me like yeah, messie, me get your ass
Speaker 1: out of the car, bro And I snatched him out
Speaker 1: the car. I told him to go back around there
Speaker 1: and get your wrapping on what you posted be doing.
Speaker 1: If you want to help these niggas when you're making,
Speaker 1: you bring these niggas with you. And he kissed that
Speaker 1: stuck with it. So when I finally failed, I'm on
Speaker 1: the yard and niggas just coming up to me to
Speaker 1: my man, you know what I need to corrupt. And
Speaker 1: I'm like the little young rapper like, man, the nigga
Speaker 1: got you in the stone. The nigga wo. And I'm
Speaker 1: like then next, I mean, I'm I'm on the yard
Speaker 1: level four yard. I get some pictures one day, No,
Speaker 1: I got an envelope and the envelope had just somebody
Speaker 1: has sent me three thousand dollars on you know how
Speaker 1: they tagged me back. Then they put on the envelope
Speaker 1: and you don't get that you you don't get the
Speaker 1: pictures on the letter or none of that. So I
Speaker 1: had to wait for the picture of the letter. It
Speaker 1: just sent me the thing. Let me know I could
Speaker 1: make wrong. I'm like, damn sorry, But we was on lockdown,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't even call wifey and asked her, you
Speaker 1: know what what? Who was that? Then the letter came
Speaker 1: and another envelope came and it was pictures from him
Speaker 1: and and it was it was on then, man. But
Speaker 1: he didn't even have to come back and shout me
Speaker 1: out of no way because before I had left me
Speaker 1: Harryo and I hadn't met Area yet, but we was
Speaker 1: talking from from them and Jil. They was trying to
Speaker 1: sign the kron pop l Q and that's when I failed.
Speaker 1: So I was just really getting into it. So I
Speaker 1: was really in it before I left. Oh wow, Man,
Speaker 1: and you've been you know, a lot, did a lot
Speaker 1: of powerful stuffs. We all know what happened with corrupt Man.
Speaker 1: And you also been dibbling Devil in the movies man
Speaker 1: for the last few years too. Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if a lot of people know you don't hate your
Speaker 1: hands and a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting all this ship. Look you, huh, how do you
Speaker 1: getting all this ship? Every time I turn around, I see, man,
Speaker 1: you got this cracking? Got that cracking? What's the secret? Bro? Sleep?
Speaker 1: No sleep? I looked for the opportunity. I study and
Speaker 1: I make sure they ain't gonna backfire, you know. I'm like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can tell you, man, I promise you
Speaker 1: like eight eight. I know, eight end the day with
Speaker 1: all kind of ship. And sometimes you gotta look through
Speaker 1: that ship and see what's really right and what's not right,
Speaker 1: you know. And and I looked at it like that.
Speaker 1: Then I try to stay true to my name. And
Speaker 1: that hurts me a lot, because you know, it hurts
Speaker 1: me being big you. And then it helps me being
Speaker 1: big you. But you know it when I said when
Speaker 1: I said, it hurts me. It hurts me because most
Speaker 1: people don't want me to be don't don't even realize
Speaker 1: I can read and right like most niggers want me
Speaker 1: to be just oh, big you. He gonna do this,
Speaker 1: he gonna take that, he's gonna do I'm not taking nothing,
Speaker 1: but what's mine I'm not going through no door, and
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to go through. But when I am
Speaker 1: gonna do was hold a man to his word, to
Speaker 1: a t if you if it's supposed to be right,
Speaker 1: didn't let that be right? Then? I just I called
Speaker 1: lead forward. Before we started this showing, I was talking
Speaker 1: to him and I was telling him, Yeah, we're about
Speaker 1: to uh do a zoom with big you. He oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my dog man. He good, he could he You
Speaker 1: will see the difference when you watch, because all I
Speaker 1: heard about big Ers or big you as a bully,
Speaker 1: but you take ship and I've seen you on black
Speaker 1: once before. He told me, don't even mention it. But
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. You had said there wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a death road if I was out with Should, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta ask you, what do you mean
Speaker 1: by that? Because from my knowledge, you and Should was
Speaker 1: working with each other. Yeah, but not before I went
Speaker 1: to prison. When you go to I went to prison
Speaker 1: of nineteen Okay, that was I was right at the beginning, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I went to prison of ninety one. So
Speaker 1: you were with him before that? No, not at all.
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, man, you gotta remember you gotta remember
Speaker 1: my mentality was was was was one of sorts, you know,
Speaker 1: like one, he wouldn't have had corrupt, He wouldn't have
Speaker 1: never had corrupt, so he wouldn't have had a connection
Speaker 1: to us on the West side. Two, You wasn't You
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna run through l A in Hollywood and all
Speaker 1: those parts where I was and where we was running
Speaker 1: the Compton part Router, That's what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: mean and and and because we were strong. I was
Speaker 1: very strong with that time when I left, and you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and unless we had an understanding,
Speaker 1: but and like me, I said it to you me
Speaker 1: and still used to talk about it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Because you couldn't have came out here at
Speaker 1: that time doing that from our tick, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. That's just realistically, It's like when no, l
Speaker 1: A needn't come to the the comfident bouncing up and down
Speaker 1: Compton Avenue and doing all that. He was gonna have confident, bloods,
Speaker 1: competent crypt Compton everybody like. It wasn't a lot of
Speaker 1: niggas coming from there coming to l A doing that either.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. I'm sorry, So it was basically respect
Speaker 1: the territory. You ain't Benna coming just disrupt the our
Speaker 1: spot like like you think you own the ship. The
Speaker 1: things I heard would have made me focus on him
Speaker 1: and the person I was come. That's for the guy.
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to know from your point
Speaker 1: of view, because you didn't go into details with with
Speaker 1: black and and my whole thing was like that would
Speaker 1: have been you know, niggas would have had to accept
Speaker 1: the confrontation. And that's what you're looking for when you're
Speaker 1: out there game banging like that. That kind of you
Speaker 1: gotta understand, bro, I was on the whole another level.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It wasn't even though when the I was,
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was. It was. We probably
Speaker 1: could have been way. It probably could have been what
Speaker 1: he was. And I came home, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You never know, you just because y'all wound up being
Speaker 1: actually really young, real tight, didn't y'all he wounded up
Speaker 1: looking out for you and everything like that? Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: Like no, no, we wound up and I love him
Speaker 1: like a brother, you know what I mean, Like he
Speaker 1: looked out for you better than he looked out for
Speaker 1: the wounds that was that was that funny ship I
Speaker 1: was and I think I think I think people think
Speaker 1: he looked out for me more than he did. Because
Speaker 1: he looked out I didn't want a lot of ship.
Speaker 1: Like the reason why I'm not filthy risk to this
Speaker 1: day is because I don't want to be advocated to me.
Speaker 1: So I didn't get looked out for like niggas thought
Speaker 1: I was, and in it's hard for me to go
Speaker 1: chase That the first money I ever got when I
Speaker 1: got home, more than thirty thousand dollars. I got it
Speaker 1: from from Games. M hm. I never got nothing more
Speaker 1: than that from my brother, but when he helped me
Speaker 1: with a case, you know what I'm saying, and I
Speaker 1: was and that was more than that. So I didn't
Speaker 1: get no money to go make it in the world
Speaker 1: from him. I never got a dime from me because
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. I got money from Games three
Speaker 1: one we want those shoe deals. That was the most
Speaker 1: money I got almost at one time in music living
Speaker 1: to this day, right, I never got nothing more in
Speaker 1: that from anybody in this industry. Then I got from
Speaker 1: the Games and a lot of people don't know that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I made like round about
Speaker 1: three hundred with that deal with games. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that hit me at the time that
Speaker 1: people thought I was signing because of my because it
Speaker 1: should I wasn't. I was signing, you know. No, Now
Speaker 1: let me take that. I don't want to. He definitely
Speaker 1: helped me, but to be able to move and do
Speaker 1: other things I wanted to do and help get nuts
Speaker 1: nuts out there saying and stand up a little bit
Speaker 1: and breathe a little bit and be able to say
Speaker 1: now no to the world. I know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do this now, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do this. That was gay. That was
Speaker 1: a game shoot deal. M hmm. So he had looked
Speaker 1: out for you. Uh, let's check in with our sponsors.
Speaker 1: Where are you at? This is og Gangster Grinny and
Speaker 1: the Gainst Chronicles podcast is back in effing getting ready
Speaker 1: for some of that g ship and blaze up some wannam.
Speaker 1: I saw something, man, I'm real excited about, man, M
Speaker 1: that you got involved with. First, I'll tell you about
Speaker 1: about the hip hop and coverage thing. I think it
Speaker 1: comes out. Does that come out this month? Yea on
Speaker 1: the month and that was big man, and I was
Speaker 1: that The reason I like this man is because guys
Speaker 1: like you, Trick Trick, I think they get misunderstood man,
Speaker 1: because y'arell all good dude, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like my talk to people, you're all almost like mythical figures.
Speaker 1: But I think it was important for them to talk
Speaker 1: about you guys, because a lot of the stuff that's
Speaker 1: shaking the music wouldn't be shaking if it wasn't for y'all.
Speaker 1: How did you get involved in that project? Again? A
Speaker 1: Pyreu out of Compton can't tell me, Jimmy Cris what
Speaker 1: the idea to do a management show? And it's round
Speaker 1: about the same time that we're always trying to pitch
Speaker 1: shows and everybody was trying to come up with something
Speaker 1: the next love and hip hop and we were all
Speaker 1: trying to like shooting and with dudes is just starting
Speaker 1: to do podcast and it was just all trying to
Speaker 1: figure out. Look, it's trying to get behind his camera
Speaker 1: and not just Mike. So he came to me because
Speaker 1: like I said, this thing started four years ago. We
Speaker 1: actually started on this four years ago. He came to me,
Speaker 1: asked me to shoot the pilot, and I had owed
Speaker 1: him because I had shot some stuff when I was
Speaker 1: trying to do a game show in his neighborhood and
Speaker 1: he ain't let me shoot over there, and I'm going away.
Speaker 1: I did the three times and did damn. I did
Speaker 1: all the and Jimmy Chris actually a kid, jim Bob.
Speaker 1: He came to me. So I did it, and Ky
Speaker 1: returned the favorite to him, and and when I did it,
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm gonna do it, but I
Speaker 1: needed to look a certain way along with the message.
Speaker 1: You're trying to tell this the message I want to tell,
Speaker 1: and I'll help you do it. So we shot the
Speaker 1: pilot and went out there with a bunch of different places.
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of old you gotta change this,
Speaker 1: and came back and reached out again and it was me.
Speaker 1: It was really just me. And then people was like, man,
Speaker 1: we don't we don't know who he is. So the
Speaker 1: people that run hirep hop right now, the white people
Speaker 1: was like, well, I no idea was big, like who
Speaker 1: is he? Like what has he done? And something happened
Speaker 1: on the internet or something that people started talking about
Speaker 1: my money. I don't know what it was. And then
Speaker 1: they like some of the executives quote it and then
Speaker 1: they called back, was like, oh y'all have a party?
Speaker 1: Was that's the guy? And then they went on and
Speaker 1: did it. So we came. So we came to the
Speaker 1: table and we was in negotiations and we signed or
Speaker 1: deal with them for for a lesser deal than I
Speaker 1: would have wanted to take three weeks before Nissey died.
Speaker 1: When when Nissey died, when Nissy died, we was already
Speaker 1: locked in the deal and I was like, probably quadruple
Speaker 1: or whatever it inst got going on to keep it
Speaker 1: one hunted. And I mean not to not to say
Speaker 1: it like that, but if this, if I hadn't sign
Speaker 1: the deal before before a little bro died, out of
Speaker 1: hit him for a bag. But I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: like life was were signed that deal. I swear to
Speaker 1: good disgraction. I had signed the three weeks me and
Speaker 1: Nip was talking about it because Nip wanted to do
Speaker 1: the documentary or Big You, and it was like, got
Speaker 1: the people, I'm gonna line it up. Bro, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: down with the Blessing Company. I'm gonna introduce Big You.
Speaker 1: And and that's why when you see us in the
Speaker 1: studio or some of it. You see me and him
Speaker 1: in the studio. We're talking about that. We had leaked
Speaker 1: up and we was rolling like you know, right before
Speaker 1: he passed. Man, it was the weird thing, is like,
Speaker 1: right before he passed, it was almost like he was
Speaker 1: in a different place with with with with with life
Speaker 1: and and his his philosophy. He was he calling me
Speaker 1: every morning, I'm for the road out on you and
Speaker 1: he come picked me up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And he was just like, man, yeah, we're gonna do this.
Speaker 1: We should have do it like Top Dog and kids
Speaker 1: tomorrow bringing you back. And I'm like, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: coming back to manage you man, And he's like you
Speaker 1: got to And I'm like, what about my old contract?
Speaker 1: He said, you still got the contract. You will be
Speaker 1: big you who will tell you that? And then it
Speaker 1: was um. So that's really how we got on the show.
Speaker 1: That's how the show started from Jimmy Chris. He came
Speaker 1: to me, I shot the pilot. Then I got involved.
Speaker 1: I said I got to be on the execta side
Speaker 1: and I gotta make it look a certain way. And
Speaker 1: it ended up being a hell of phenomenal project. It
Speaker 1: started off as a one episode and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: break all five people down, and um we end up
Speaker 1: luckily getting a really intelligent and involved team. And it's
Speaker 1: what you've seen now. Have y'all seen it any episodes?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this ship, but I'm going to go
Speaker 1: chap into it, like as soon as we get done
Speaker 1: with this. We're doing it because I saw something the
Speaker 1: better and I said, when is this coming on? But
Speaker 1: then you know, you get caught up from life and
Speaker 1: everything like that, I'm saying, well, this is this is
Speaker 1: a y'all already. No, it's not out. It looks episode
Speaker 1: Our episode is episode one, West Coast episode is three
Speaker 1: and six Episode three is. To me, it's like the
Speaker 1: representation that when when y'all come in, when eight them
Speaker 1: come in, when Snoop come in, when the West Coast,
Speaker 1: because it's the East Coast version and you see that
Speaker 1: East Coast influence. And then so the first question on
Speaker 1: it is where was you at a nineteen seventy nine?
Speaker 1: So imagine that being the question where were you in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine? All of us can ask for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a horseman middle school and in nineteen seventy nine,
Speaker 1: when Rappers Delight hit, we was all trying to go
Speaker 1: back home learn that song come Back, and it was
Speaker 1: the first rap song we had ever heard. But also
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, for me and Horseman, middle school
Speaker 1: was the start of the war between the Crypts and
Speaker 1: the crypts. So when hip hop hit us gang banging
Speaker 1: like we didn't like, we was fin about to meet
Speaker 1: was coming. The Crypts started fighting the Crypts and the
Speaker 1: death told in l A went crazy and we started
Speaker 1: seeing the honesty had never seen and that came with
Speaker 1: hip hop. And then crack went with hip hop. When
Speaker 1: when when? When crack grew, it went across the country,
Speaker 1: and hip hop went with it around the country, and
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop went with crack around the country,
Speaker 1: West Coast policing paramilitary police, and Style with Darrel Gates
Speaker 1: went across the country. We then became the epicenter of
Speaker 1: what hip hop looked like for the next fifteen years. Right,
Speaker 1: that's some real ship man, right, And it was it
Speaker 1: was crazy about everything. Man is um I laughed when
Speaker 1: I hear about people, because you, like I said, for
Speaker 1: you're almost like a mythical figure. So when I'm talking
Speaker 1: to some of the cats back east and down so
Speaker 1: and they admission your name. He always asked me, man,
Speaker 1: what's up with Big You? When I'm saying, man, big
Speaker 1: you was a cool nigger, probably over their coaches some kids.
Speaker 1: That was some football and talking some ship. Because he's
Speaker 1: been avoiding my faith. He's been avoiding the faith with
Speaker 1: the all money coach still for a long time. And
Speaker 1: I love him. You let me, let me go only
Speaker 1: get stealers credit. Man still have probably beat me for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's because it is I cannot recruit kids and
Speaker 1: still can recruit because I live in recruit. I live
Speaker 1: in the sixties. I'm from the sixties. It's just people
Speaker 1: not gonna let their kids play for me. Chris Yaws
Speaker 1: can always have a stick, but let's say this, You're
Speaker 1: gonna have at least six of mins on your team
Speaker 1: to play against me. So that don't work. So I mean,
Speaker 1: no matter how much work we do in our community,
Speaker 1: y'all still come filter and filter impel our community. We go.
Speaker 1: Some of my hardest kids come from over there. But
Speaker 1: what if I was able to keep my kids and
Speaker 1: they because most of these parents, they don't know me,
Speaker 1: so they think I'm sitting around telling kids get the
Speaker 1: blue rag picked up you got. So this is really
Speaker 1: how any any coach can't get the kid not to
Speaker 1: come to me all these he gonna have your game back.
Speaker 1: And I and I fight this every day. You know,
Speaker 1: I fighted every single day. And I mean it's unfair.
Speaker 1: I can stand down and cry about it, but you
Speaker 1: know what I do. I'm just gonna coach with I'm
Speaker 1: gonna coach will come. You know. One thing I want
Speaker 1: to say, man and wind go hold you no long
Speaker 1: time because I know you're a busy dude and we
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. One thing I will say is
Speaker 1: I'll pulled up for you over there and that felt
Speaker 1: nothing but loved on. Got the most free hot dogs
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten. It's been a wonderful environment. And so
Speaker 1: I want to say that to say this man. We
Speaker 1: can't believe everything about our black people. Man, and we
Speaker 1: see online or some stuff, because it's always deeper than
Speaker 1: what you knew. You do a lot of incredible stuff
Speaker 1: for them kids over there. I saw one time that
Speaker 1: you was on getting the little young sisters they prom
Speaker 1: dresses and stuff, and a little boys they suits and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a two years ago and feel like you
Speaker 1: you you you just got to getting all the kids
Speaker 1: shoes and you get hook up with all the niggers
Speaker 1: and get the kids shoes and all that type of ship. Man,
Speaker 1: there's a lot people perceive, you know, your reputation from
Speaker 1: what it was then what you do now because people
Speaker 1: don't want to look beyond. But that's what people have
Speaker 1: to be able to do. They have to be able
Speaker 1: to just like with you, James, the same ship. You
Speaker 1: hear your fucking name and people be like they think
Speaker 1: the same fucking affiliation. They don't know. I mentioned the
Speaker 1: suits and the shoes and all that. So if you
Speaker 1: ever need a donation, let me know. The only person
Speaker 1: I go through now is uh, You're none. You know.
Speaker 1: She got severa angels over there, and I took a
Speaker 1: gang of ship answer turkeys. Uh, I bought a gang
Speaker 1: of ship for backpacks and all that ship show. Anything
Speaker 1: I can do to help with kids and homeless people,
Speaker 1: you can come me in. I drop it off anyway.
Speaker 1: So yes, I know what, especially with the stuff my
Speaker 1: son doing out. You got always talked to Chris about
Speaker 1: him having to give back the community, right, I say, man,
Speaker 1: you know you go ahead and bus to check down.
Speaker 1: I said, who you want to help? He said, Pops,
Speaker 1: you know I'll be checking out. You know, he called
Speaker 1: you Coke Hempley. You know, the kids know he was coaching.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, he said, I want to go over
Speaker 1: and help coach Henley. And then because you do it,
Speaker 1: cause y'all look out for them kids over there. Sc man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. M hmm, because you
Speaker 1: know my son was at a gas station he should
Speaker 1: have been at one night and he said, Man, I
Speaker 1: know your pops, you know, take your ass. What is
Speaker 1: you doing over and take your ass back over the campus?
Speaker 1: You know? But man, I got one more question. I
Speaker 1: got two more questions to ask. What's up with the
Speaker 1: checking the in podcast? Man? Oh man? So really, um,
Speaker 1: I just really just put it together with the idea
Speaker 1: we'll figure out we're doing. And um the name came out.
Speaker 1: It's uh, the name is udid. So it's like, I
Speaker 1: want the podcast to talk about the streets. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: it's exactly what y'all do. I looked at what y'all
Speaker 1: was doing, and when you was telling me about it,
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to do what I want to
Speaker 1: get a mite. And I figured a lot of people
Speaker 1: are telling men they don't wanna hear what you got
Speaker 1: to say. And they talked me into doing and I
Speaker 1: stand down and I did a couple of pilots, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I think I can do this. I
Speaker 1: think I can make people feel comfortable enough to really
Speaker 1: express theirselves and to be able to you know, chop
Speaker 1: it up on the couch and asking a hard question
Speaker 1: in in in the right way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do lad, I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: get nobody locked up. I don't want to do nothing
Speaker 1: shocking and and insistive. I want to do I won't
Speaker 1: be be at it really stopping up with a g
Speaker 1: That's that's what they're listening for. They just want to
Speaker 1: hear your your one hunt and and love. As you're
Speaker 1: giving them that man, you got them all, you got them,
Speaker 1: They're gonna listen. Yeah, yeah, man. That's the beautiful thing
Speaker 1: about this podcast and stuff. It's really allowed us to
Speaker 1: have a voice for us, not going through no motherfucker
Speaker 1: where he can shop it up and make it sound
Speaker 1: like he wanted sound. No this coming straight from us
Speaker 1: and filter the raw. How many times were y'all shooting, like,
Speaker 1: how do y'all what's the platform? Man? Shoot we um
Speaker 1: we shoot um. Like this week this is our second episode.
Speaker 1: We don't done this. We did the one that dropped
Speaker 1: them today already and this one we're doing now man
Speaker 1: to drop you know next week. This is drop on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So we do it once a week and sometimes, man,
Speaker 1: we've at times when we don't knocked off two and
Speaker 1: three shows in a week. Sometimes it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: because like the convenient time for you to do the
Speaker 1: interview was Thursday at seven o'clock. Okay, that's when we
Speaker 1: go do this interview, you know what I mean? Because
Speaker 1: it's a pride, right, you know what I'm saying, a
Speaker 1: lot of times it just be me James h Is
Speaker 1: sitting shopping up and that's our normal show we're doing
Speaker 1: every Tuesday. Man. But man, it's you know, it's the
Speaker 1: beautiful things that ain't remember the conversation. Don't even look
Speaker 1: at this interview. Yeah it's still good though. It's feel
Speaker 1: you know, it's feel good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Just natural, you know what I'm saying. We're not trying
Speaker 1: to We're not trying to put him niggers up on
Speaker 1: some bullshit where people can come and express theirself, talk
Speaker 1: about their past, or talk about their positive inputs on
Speaker 1: their positive effects on what they're doing right now. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of motherfucker's when they hear
Speaker 1: your name or they hear who associated with ship, they
Speaker 1: already get uh estimation of who you are. So we
Speaker 1: try to change that with this podcast and give people
Speaker 1: a platform where they can come and express theirselves and
Speaker 1: people can be like, man niggas is highly intelligent. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: You feel me, right? You know? You just see that people?
Speaker 1: Is is? You know? Is my biggest thing with this
Speaker 1: ship is I'm trying to look but the outside of people.
Speaker 1: Look at people when they see a black man, don't
Speaker 1: look at it. You don't see just a crip or blood.
Speaker 1: That's a man right there, because we all men before
Speaker 1: you anything else. You come into the world as a
Speaker 1: man or a woman. You know what I mean? Nothing else? Right?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying In this last question I
Speaker 1: got for you? What did what in your definition? Man?
Speaker 1: What did Nipsey mean of l A? What he meant
Speaker 1: to l A is? I don't know what he meant
Speaker 1: to the world, you know, asked you to the world.
Speaker 1: But just he just icon like he's l A's icon. Well,
Speaker 1: let me, I gotta separate that because he what he
Speaker 1: meant to us is different, and what he meant to
Speaker 1: me is different, you know what I mean. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you what he meant to me. He was my love.
Speaker 1: He was the one I seen first and I said
Speaker 1: he can do m you know what I mean. He
Speaker 1: was the one that I said, out of all the
Speaker 1: people I looked at, I said, to me, put your
Speaker 1: money on this. A lot of people don't know how hard.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because you And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: People gotta understand that it took somebody to say this
Speaker 1: the one. So what the world seen is what I
Speaker 1: already see, you know what I mean, Like you saw
Speaker 1: that from the beginning exactly I saw it. I saw
Speaker 1: what the world had to later come to see. You know.
Speaker 1: I met him when he was a baby, and in
Speaker 1: my mind I knew he could become this because when
Speaker 1: I first met him, he was talking about bullets ain't
Speaker 1: got no name. He was talking about crip walking. He
Speaker 1: was talking about sea walk and he was talking about
Speaker 1: that and in the conversations we had in the natural
Speaker 1: and the natural growth, he became what everybody else can
Speaker 1: respect and then try to equate the pocket and all that.
Speaker 1: But I've seen it first. That's the program still. But
Speaker 1: the most appropriate answer is I've seen it first, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But out of all the artists
Speaker 1: in the world, you gotta remember I had I had
Speaker 1: been around Snoop, I had been around m C eight,
Speaker 1: I had been around Game, I've been around all these dudes.
Speaker 1: I've been around all these dudes before I wouldn't got him,
Speaker 1: and I had to in my mind say who could
Speaker 1: ride with them? Who am I gonna place my my
Speaker 1: my one shot on? You know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: and that's what people do when you when you see
Speaker 1: this show, you're gonna see in the documentary it's a
Speaker 1: lot of people taking in putting their word behind these artists,
Speaker 1: and these artists is gonna blow up because it got
Speaker 1: to be somebody say, looks, Ray, it's the one, right,
Speaker 1: it's the one. A Game m the one. And when
Speaker 1: it was my turn, I told the world, no, he's
Speaker 1: the one. So I can say to the world, now,
Speaker 1: you're always late. I already knew he's he is definitely
Speaker 1: your contribution to hip hop. And I tell people that
Speaker 1: all the time. I say, man, you was he just
Speaker 1: wasn't know over night stuff because I thought it was
Speaker 1: genius what you did two handle holds. No, no longer,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was genius. You kind of threw
Speaker 1: people off at first because sometimes you would have warning
Speaker 1: red based phone caps in the videos and other stuff.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you, No, it wasn't like no, like
Speaker 1: what you did was genius. That was a fight in
Speaker 1: the hood too. Let's keep that one hunted. That was
Speaker 1: a fight in the hood. That was a fight because
Speaker 1: you gotta remember when I came home, I don't want nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't want to set trip and I want my
Speaker 1: sons to feel like you know blood you know, because
Speaker 1: you know this like I was. That was purpose That
Speaker 1: was purposeful. I purposely did not make sure I watched
Speaker 1: every video in his early videos, I listened to every lyric.
Speaker 1: We can't put that out. We ain't gonna sub this
Speaker 1: these niggers, we ain't gonna cross this out of the wall.
Speaker 1: When because when we came with this, you don't understand, bro.
Speaker 1: We was the first movement to not claim a city,
Speaker 1: we claimed a set. So it was very difficult because
Speaker 1: we didn't claim Compton, we didn't claim Watts, we didn't
Speaker 1: claim the Long Beach, we didn't claim l A. We
Speaker 1: claimed Rolling Sixties. And so it was a lot of
Speaker 1: people that was like, no, you can't do that, you
Speaker 1: can't do it. And I'm like, why were this and
Speaker 1: nobody went for the this, nobody with the Llena, Nobody
Speaker 1: We're gonna do and it was and when in the
Speaker 1: beginning he didn't want to do no songs with nobody,
Speaker 1: but wrote the sixties and dudes, it was affiliated with us.
Speaker 1: So it was put into like, now, man, we gotta
Speaker 1: do this. We god, you know, and he was he
Speaker 1: had us. Yeah, he had his feeling. He was young,
Speaker 1: he was a tiger man. He was you know, he
Speaker 1: was a cup he's ready to get on. But he
Speaker 1: got it. He got it. We need to do this,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta do this to make this. We
Speaker 1: gotta do this, we gotta They started seeing it was
Speaker 1: a bigger picture without without you doing that, though, just
Speaker 1: imagine where he would have been. He probably would have
Speaker 1: made it if he didn't have that understanding or got
Speaker 1: that understanding from the big homies, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you pretty much gotta get yourself credit for what
Speaker 1: you created, and that's showing him that he had to
Speaker 1: be like versatile in the game to to be successful.
Speaker 1: And he did that got you shocked. He had he
Speaker 1: had to be able to receive it and then put
Speaker 1: it back out, and he was great. He took he
Speaker 1: took what little I gave him, and then what what
Speaker 1: a bigger example I gave him? And he made it work.
Speaker 1: You know, we were together for a short period, but
Speaker 1: my influence in my neighborhood and my example in my
Speaker 1: neighborhood still poor than to him. When we had the beef.
Speaker 1: You understand, it was very short lived. It was longer
Speaker 1: to everybody else in the world because the end of
Speaker 1: it made it long. You know what I mean. We
Speaker 1: had a we had a we had a one day
Speaker 1: beat that people made long. But we always talked and
Speaker 1: we always built all the whip into the day past,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, so I love
Speaker 1: that I'm not the one who has to say I
Speaker 1: didn't get to tell him my love you. I don't
Speaker 1: have that. I don't have that that demon. I'm not
Speaker 1: the one who who who? Who? Gotta say I missed
Speaker 1: him and I gave him his award while he was living.
Speaker 1: I gave the only award he ever guy. Ye know,
Speaker 1: I mean, man, were you man? I can't thank you
Speaker 1: enough man for coming on the show. I know this
Speaker 1: is gonna be big, man, because we got to do
Speaker 1: that pretty much. You know. It's anonymous with the face
Speaker 1: of l A. They look at the map, but probably
Speaker 1: a picture You'll ask from that motherfucker for you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. They gotta be high in the back,
Speaker 1: like man, be glad to get you on your man
Speaker 1: because you like, like I said, I don't know you
Speaker 1: a long time man, and I'm just real, I can't
Speaker 1: say enough good stuff about you. If you do a
Speaker 1: lot of incredible stuff in the community and we appreciate
Speaker 1: your brother. I'm back after the thing dropped, after offensively dropped,
Speaker 1: I'm coming back right well. That concludes another episode of
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