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Speaker 1: Tonight we got a very special guest. Man. He's aware

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Speaker 1: of respected individual not only Lost Angeles, but throughout the

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Speaker 1: In his nonprofit, Developing Options, conduct several activities for the

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Speaker 1: the rest of the world is Big Youth. What you

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Speaker 1: what's happening with you? Man? Man, I'm good. What's good?

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Speaker 1: What's the word? Man? What we're gonna do about this football? Man? Man?

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Speaker 1: And man, my, you know what's crazy. Some of my

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Speaker 1: You know you we were just talking about the football thing. Man.

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Speaker 1: and I found that was something just to date, man,

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Speaker 1: was that something that you thought about when you was

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Speaker 1: We do football, we do community, community get back. We're

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Speaker 1: All done the Muslim Montal practice. And but I tend

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Speaker 1: because I think because of that confidence it gave me

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00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: and my crew, because all of us knew it, and

424
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: all of us was on the a G which was

425
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: in the sixties, and we all knew how to fight.

426
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: We all like, I'm a black belt and my cousins

427
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: was all built it up. We all went to go fight.

428
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: We trained, we we we we If you got a trouble,

429
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: you gotta trumble to critischool. So you have six niggas

430
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: who are all first cousins who came run who all

431
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: even if it were three of us and we were

432
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: in the room with twenty niggas were feeling like U yeah,

433
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, so that gave us a different swag, and

434
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: that gave a roll the sixties a different swag when

435
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: we went places and people made us roll the sixties

436
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: or we was aligned with that, so we're like, okay,

437
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: what we're doing and we you know what I mean.

438
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 1: So that was the I feel like that's the only difference.

439
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: And opportunities. I didn't have a lot of opportunities. Man.

440
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: We came up hustling like everybody else, and we was

441
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: on the West side, so we kind of took our opportunities, right. Yeah.

442
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: So at what point did you say, you know what, man,

443
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: I got some little homies over here, this rapp and everything.

444
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start unique records. Who was your first artist?

445
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: Papa l Q n right there man, nineteen eighty nine.

446
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: To tell you, look, I don't even I didn't get him.

447
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: He got me. Papi Q signed me. Let me tell

448
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: you I came on nine eighty nine and ninetiest and

449
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: and and and hate to tell you when when Papa

450
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: l Q had that hit song the B Side, I

451
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: ran into him in the Fox Hill More. I was

452
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: in the Fox Tea mall he walked into me. Just

453
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: got a motherfucker. He got a flat top and he

454
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: walked into me. Say, I was with a couple of

455
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: the homies. You know, we've mobbed in the Foxy Maro

456
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: thatime like, welcome to me through all the squad. He're like,

457
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: what's up so you And I'm like, what's up? I

458
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: mean like you you used to work for my pops.

459
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:09,959
Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's the word for your pops, Like, man,

460
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 1: hain't the work for nobody. Ben was saving but I'm

461
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: looking at that and he only could have only been seventeen,

462
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: sixteen eighteen, and he said, yeah, man, used to work

463
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: for my pops. And see what's your post name? He said,

464
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Mr Green? I said, O G. Green? He said, I said, oh, yeah,

465
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: I doesn't work for your pop. But anyway, nevertheless, man,

466
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: your post is how are you doing? Because his father

467
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: just got locked up and he knew I had a bag,

468
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: so he came to me in eighty nine, eighty nine ninety.

469
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: It was like, I want you to start managing me

470
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: once you start halping with my music. I had no

471
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: clue about music, didn't give a damn about music. I

472
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: was in the morning, I was getting the bag out

473
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: of Minnesota, and you know, so he started actually he

474
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: come to my house, him and Mike tyson nephew, and

475
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: now he asked me every time he's doing the video

476
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: of going to the videos with learned a little bit

477
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: more about the video. I'm showing up at shows with

478
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: him going to shows. So I started getting it to

479
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: it and then my Broomfield came shortly after that. It

480
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: was like, Bro funk with me on the on the

481
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: homie Corrupt, and I'm like, all right, but I was

482
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: I'd already be going in out of town messing with

483
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: the Quan, and the Quan was on another level at

484
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: that time. He was he was flying high. So then

485
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna mess with Corrupt. And that's

486
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: when I started dealing with Corrupt. And we was in

487
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: the process of getting the paperwork together, doing everything, and

488
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I left. I got I got kidnapped, and I was

489
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: gone for thirty years. But because of me and Corrupt,

490
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: small relationship it it stayed with it with Corrupt, and

491
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: and Corrupt didn't even have to shout me out. Bro.

492
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: He didn't owe me nothing. I hadn't gave no money

493
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: one thing I did a corrup I call grew up

494
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: in the car with the little homies and they are

495
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: about to go get cracked. And I told him, I said, man,

496
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: ain't you the rapper because you know, you know you

497
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: can't come how Let mean, I was on my ignor

498
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: ship halfway on and off and I'm like, ain't you

499
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: the rapper? Me like yeah, messie, me get your ass

500
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: out of the car, bro And I snatched him out

501
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: the car. I told him to go back around there

502
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: and get your wrapping on what you posted be doing.

503
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: If you want to help these niggas when you're making,

504
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: you bring these niggas with you. And he kissed that

505
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: stuck with it. So when I finally failed, I'm on

506
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: the yard and niggas just coming up to me to

507
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: my man, you know what I need to corrupt. And

508
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: I'm like the little young rapper like, man, the nigga

509
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: got you in the stone. The nigga wo. And I'm

510
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: like then next, I mean, I'm I'm on the yard

511
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: level four yard. I get some pictures one day, No,

512
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: I got an envelope and the envelope had just somebody

513
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: has sent me three thousand dollars on you know how

514
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: they tagged me back. Then they put on the envelope

515
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: and you don't get that you you don't get the

516
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: pictures on the letter or none of that. So I

517
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: had to wait for the picture of the letter. It

518
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: just sent me the thing. Let me know I could

519
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: make wrong. I'm like, damn sorry, But we was on lockdown,

520
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: so I couldn't even call wifey and asked her, you

521
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: know what what? Who was that? Then the letter came

522
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: and another envelope came and it was pictures from him

523
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: and and it was it was on then, man. But

524
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: he didn't even have to come back and shout me

525
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: out of no way because before I had left me

526
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Harryo and I hadn't met Area yet, but we was

527
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: talking from from them and Jil. They was trying to

528
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: sign the kron pop l Q and that's when I failed.

529
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: So I was just really getting into it. So I

530
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: was really in it before I left. Oh wow, Man,

531
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: and you've been you know, a lot, did a lot

532
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: of powerful stuffs. We all know what happened with corrupt Man.

533
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: And you also been dibbling Devil in the movies man

534
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: for the last few years too. Yeah, I don't know

535
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: if a lot of people know you don't hate your

536
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: hands and a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, I'm not

537
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: getting all this ship. Look you, huh, how do you

538
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: getting all this ship? Every time I turn around, I see, man,

539
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: you got this cracking? Got that cracking? What's the secret? Bro? Sleep?

540
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: No sleep? I looked for the opportunity. I study and

541
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I make sure they ain't gonna backfire, you know. I'm like, yo, man,

542
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I can tell you, man, I promise you

543
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: like eight eight. I know, eight end the day with

544
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: all kind of ship. And sometimes you gotta look through

545
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: that ship and see what's really right and what's not right,

546
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: you know. And and I looked at it like that.

547
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Then I try to stay true to my name. And

548
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: that hurts me a lot, because you know, it hurts

549
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: me being big you. And then it helps me being

550
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: big you. But you know it when I said when

551
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: I said, it hurts me. It hurts me because most

552
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: people don't want me to be don't don't even realize

553
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: I can read and right like most niggers want me

554
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: to be just oh, big you. He gonna do this,

555
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: he gonna take that, he's gonna do I'm not taking nothing,

556
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: but what's mine I'm not going through no door, and

557
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to go through. But when I am

558
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna do was hold a man to his word, to

559
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: a t if you if it's supposed to be right,

560
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: didn't let that be right? Then? I just I called

561
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: lead forward. Before we started this showing, I was talking

562
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: to him and I was telling him, Yeah, we're about

563
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: to uh do a zoom with big you. He oh yeah,

564
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: that's my dog man. He good, he could he You

565
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: will see the difference when you watch, because all I

566
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: heard about big Ers or big you as a bully,

567
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: but you take ship and I've seen you on black

568
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: once before. He told me, don't even mention it. But

569
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you. You had said there wouldn't be

570
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: a death road if I was out with Should, And

571
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta ask you, what do you mean

572
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: by that? Because from my knowledge, you and Should was

573
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: working with each other. Yeah, but not before I went

574
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: to prison. When you go to I went to prison

575
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: of nineteen Okay, that was I was right at the beginning, Yeah,

576
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I was. I went to prison of ninety one. So

577
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: you were with him before that? No, not at all.

578
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: You gotta remember, man, you gotta remember you gotta remember

579
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: my mentality was was was was one of sorts, you know,

580
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: like one, he wouldn't have had corrupt, He wouldn't have

581
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: never had corrupt, so he wouldn't have had a connection

582
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: to us on the West side. Two, You wasn't You

583
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna run through l A in Hollywood and all

584
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: those parts where I was and where we was running

585
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: the Compton part Router, That's what I mean. And I

586
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: mean and and and because we were strong. I was

587
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: very strong with that time when I left, and you

588
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And and unless we had an understanding,

589
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: but and like me, I said it to you me

590
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: and still used to talk about it, you know what

591
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Because you couldn't have came out here at

592
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: that time doing that from our tick, you know what

593
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I mean. That's just realistically, It's like when no, l

594
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: A needn't come to the the comfident bouncing up and down

595
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: Compton Avenue and doing all that. He was gonna have confident, bloods,

596
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: competent crypt Compton everybody like. It wasn't a lot of

597
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: niggas coming from there coming to l A doing that either.

598
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. I'm sorry, So it was basically respect

599
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: the territory. You ain't Benna coming just disrupt the our

600
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: spot like like you think you own the ship. The

601
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: things I heard would have made me focus on him

602
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: and the person I was come. That's for the guy.

603
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: I just I just wanted to know from your point

604
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: of view, because you didn't go into details with with

605
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: black and and my whole thing was like that would

606
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: have been you know, niggas would have had to accept

607
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: the confrontation. And that's what you're looking for when you're

608
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: out there game banging like that. That kind of you

609
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: gotta understand, bro, I was on the whole another level.

610
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't. It wasn't even though when the I was,

611
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was. It was. We probably

612
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: could have been way. It probably could have been what

613
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: he was. And I came home, you know what I mean,

614
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: You never know, you just because y'all wound up being

615
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: actually really young, real tight, didn't y'all he wounded up

616
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: looking out for you and everything like that? Yeah, definitely,

617
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: Like no, no, we wound up and I love him

618
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: like a brother, you know what I mean, Like he

619
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: looked out for you better than he looked out for

620
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: the wounds that was that was that funny ship I

621
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: was and I think I think I think people think

622
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: he looked out for me more than he did. Because

623
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: he looked out I didn't want a lot of ship.

624
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: Like the reason why I'm not filthy risk to this

625
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: day is because I don't want to be advocated to me.

626
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: So I didn't get looked out for like niggas thought

627
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: I was, and in it's hard for me to go

628
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: chase That the first money I ever got when I

629
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: got home, more than thirty thousand dollars. I got it

630
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: from from Games. M hm. I never got nothing more

631
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: than that from my brother, but when he helped me

632
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: with a case, you know what I'm saying, and I

633
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: was and that was more than that. So I didn't

634
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: get no money to go make it in the world

635
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: from him. I never got a dime from me because

636
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: I didn't want it. I got money from Games three

637
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: one we want those shoe deals. That was the most

638
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:55,479
Speaker 1: money I got almost at one time in music living

639
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: to this day, right, I never got nothing more in

640
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: that from anybody in this industry. Then I got from

641
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: the Games and a lot of people don't know that,

642
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I made like round about

643
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: three hundred with that deal with games. You know what

644
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that hit me at the time that

645
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: people thought I was signing because of my because it

646
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: should I wasn't. I was signing, you know. No, Now

647
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: let me take that. I don't want to. He definitely

648
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: helped me, but to be able to move and do

649
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: other things I wanted to do and help get nuts

650
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: nuts out there saying and stand up a little bit

651
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: and breathe a little bit and be able to say

652
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: now no to the world. I know, I don't want

653
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: to do this now, I don't want to do that.

654
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna do this. That was gay. That was

655
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: a game shoot deal. M hmm. So he had looked

656
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: out for you. Uh, let's check in with our sponsors.

657
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: Where are you at? This is og Gangster Grinny and

658
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: the Gainst Chronicles podcast is back in effing getting ready

659
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: for some of that g ship and blaze up some wannam.

660
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: I saw something, man, I'm real excited about, man, M

661
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,439
Speaker 1: that you got involved with. First, I'll tell you about

662
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: about the hip hop and coverage thing. I think it

663
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: comes out. Does that come out this month? Yea on

664
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: the month and that was big man, and I was

665
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: that The reason I like this man is because guys

666
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: like you, Trick Trick, I think they get misunderstood man,

667
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 1: because y'arell all good dude, you know what I'm saying.

668
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: Like my talk to people, you're all almost like mythical figures.

669
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: But I think it was important for them to talk

670
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: about you guys, because a lot of the stuff that's

671
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: shaking the music wouldn't be shaking if it wasn't for y'all.

672
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: How did you get involved in that project? Again? A

673
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Pyreu out of Compton can't tell me, Jimmy Cris what

674
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: the idea to do a management show? And it's round

675
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 1: about the same time that we're always trying to pitch

676
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: shows and everybody was trying to come up with something

677
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: the next love and hip hop and we were all

678
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: trying to like shooting and with dudes is just starting

679
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: to do podcast and it was just all trying to

680
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: figure out. Look, it's trying to get behind his camera

681
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: and not just Mike. So he came to me because

682
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: like I said, this thing started four years ago. We

683
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: actually started on this four years ago. He came to me,

684
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: asked me to shoot the pilot, and I had owed

685
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: him because I had shot some stuff when I was

686
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: trying to do a game show in his neighborhood and

687
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: he ain't let me shoot over there, and I'm going away.

688
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: I did the three times and did damn. I did

689
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: all the and Jimmy Chris actually a kid, jim Bob.

690
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: He came to me. So I did it, and Ky

691
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: returned the favorite to him, and and when I did it,

692
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm gonna do it, but I

693
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: needed to look a certain way along with the message.

694
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: You're trying to tell this the message I want to tell,

695
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: and I'll help you do it. So we shot the

696
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: pilot and went out there with a bunch of different places.

697
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of old you gotta change this,

698
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: and came back and reached out again and it was me.

699
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: It was really just me. And then people was like, man,

700
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: we don't we don't know who he is. So the

701
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: people that run hirep hop right now, the white people

702
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: was like, well, I no idea was big, like who

703
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: is he? Like what has he done? And something happened

704
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: on the internet or something that people started talking about

705
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: my money. I don't know what it was. And then

706
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: they like some of the executives quote it and then

707
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: they called back, was like, oh y'all have a party?

708
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Was that's the guy? And then they went on and

709
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: did it. So we came. So we came to the

710
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: table and we was in negotiations and we signed or

711
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: deal with them for for a lesser deal than I

712
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: would have wanted to take three weeks before Nissey died.

713
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: When when Nissey died, when Nissy died, we was already

714
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: locked in the deal and I was like, probably quadruple

715
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: or whatever it inst got going on to keep it

716
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: one hunted. And I mean not to not to say

717
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: it like that, but if this, if I hadn't sign

718
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: the deal before before a little bro died, out of

719
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: hit him for a bag. But I mean, it's just

720
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: like life was were signed that deal. I swear to

721
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: good disgraction. I had signed the three weeks me and

722
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: Nip was talking about it because Nip wanted to do

723
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: the documentary or Big You, and it was like, got

724
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: the people, I'm gonna line it up. Bro, I'm sitting

725
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: down with the Blessing Company. I'm gonna introduce Big You.

726
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: And and that's why when you see us in the

727
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: studio or some of it. You see me and him

728
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: in the studio. We're talking about that. We had leaked

729
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: up and we was rolling like you know, right before

730
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: he passed. Man, it was the weird thing, is like,

731
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: right before he passed, it was almost like he was

732
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: in a different place with with with with with life

733
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: and and his his philosophy. He was he calling me

734
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: every morning, I'm for the road out on you and

735
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: he come picked me up, you know what I mean.

736
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: And he was just like, man, yeah, we're gonna do this.

737
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: We should have do it like Top Dog and kids

738
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: tomorrow bringing you back. And I'm like, man, I ain't

739
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: coming back to manage you man, And he's like you

740
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: got to And I'm like, what about my old contract?

741
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: He said, you still got the contract. You will be

742
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: big you who will tell you that? And then it

743
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: was um. So that's really how we got on the show.

744
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: That's how the show started from Jimmy Chris. He came

745
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: to me, I shot the pilot. Then I got involved.

746
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I said I got to be on the execta side

747
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: and I gotta make it look a certain way. And

748
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: it ended up being a hell of phenomenal project. It

749
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: started off as a one episode and we're just gonna

750
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: break all five people down, and um we end up

751
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: luckily getting a really intelligent and involved team. And it's

752
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: what you've seen now. Have y'all seen it any episodes?

753
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: I haven't seen this ship, but I'm going to go

754
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: chap into it, like as soon as we get done

755
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: with this. We're doing it because I saw something the

756
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: better and I said, when is this coming on? But

757
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: then you know, you get caught up from life and

758
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: everything like that, I'm saying, well, this is this is

759
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: a y'all already. No, it's not out. It looks episode

760
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: Our episode is episode one, West Coast episode is three

761
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: and six Episode three is. To me, it's like the

762
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: representation that when when y'all come in, when eight them

763
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: come in, when Snoop come in, when the West Coast,

764
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: because it's the East Coast version and you see that

765
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: East Coast influence. And then so the first question on

766
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: it is where was you at a nineteen seventy nine?

767
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: So imagine that being the question where were you in

768
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine? All of us can ask for that. Yeah,

769
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: I was a horseman middle school and in nineteen seventy nine,

770
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: when Rappers Delight hit, we was all trying to go

771
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: back home learn that song come Back, and it was

772
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: the first rap song we had ever heard. But also

773
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, for me and Horseman, middle school

774
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: was the start of the war between the Crypts and

775
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: the crypts. So when hip hop hit us gang banging

776
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: like we didn't like, we was fin about to meet

777
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: was coming. The Crypts started fighting the Crypts and the

778
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: death told in l A went crazy and we started

779
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: seeing the honesty had never seen and that came with

780
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: hip hop. And then crack went with hip hop. When

781
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: when when? When crack grew, it went across the country,

782
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: and hip hop went with it around the country, and

783
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop went with crack around the country,

784
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: West Coast policing paramilitary police, and Style with Darrel Gates

785
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: went across the country. We then became the epicenter of

786
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: what hip hop looked like for the next fifteen years. Right,

787
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: that's some real ship man, right, And it was it

788
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: was crazy about everything. Man is um I laughed when

789
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: I hear about people, because you, like I said, for

790
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: you're almost like a mythical figure. So when I'm talking

791
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: to some of the cats back east and down so

792
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: and they admission your name. He always asked me, man,

793
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: what's up with Big You? When I'm saying, man, big

794
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: you was a cool nigger, probably over their coaches some kids.

795
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: That was some football and talking some ship. Because he's

796
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: been avoiding my faith. He's been avoiding the faith with

797
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: the all money coach still for a long time. And

798
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,919
Speaker 1: I love him. You let me, let me go only

799
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: get stealers credit. Man still have probably beat me for sure.

800
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: And that's because it is I cannot recruit kids and

801
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: still can recruit because I live in recruit. I live

802
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: in the sixties. I'm from the sixties. It's just people

803
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: not gonna let their kids play for me. Chris Yaws

804
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: can always have a stick, but let's say this, You're

805
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: gonna have at least six of mins on your team

806
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: to play against me. So that don't work. So I mean,

807
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: no matter how much work we do in our community,

808
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: y'all still come filter and filter impel our community. We go.

809
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: Some of my hardest kids come from over there. But

810
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: what if I was able to keep my kids and

811
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: they because most of these parents, they don't know me,

812
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: so they think I'm sitting around telling kids get the

813
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: blue rag picked up you got. So this is really

814
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: how any any coach can't get the kid not to

815
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: come to me all these he gonna have your game back.

816
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: And I and I fight this every day. You know,

817
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: I fighted every single day. And I mean it's unfair.

818
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: I can stand down and cry about it, but you

819
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: know what I do. I'm just gonna coach with I'm

820
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna coach will come. You know. One thing I want

821
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: to say, man and wind go hold you no long

822
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: time because I know you're a busy dude and we

823
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. One thing I will say is

824
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: I'll pulled up for you over there and that felt

825
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: nothing but loved on. Got the most free hot dogs

826
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten. It's been a wonderful environment. And so

827
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: I want to say that to say this man. We

828
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: can't believe everything about our black people. Man, and we

829
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: see online or some stuff, because it's always deeper than

830
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: what you knew. You do a lot of incredible stuff

831
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: for them kids over there. I saw one time that

832
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: you was on getting the little young sisters they prom

833
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: dresses and stuff, and a little boys they suits and stuff. Yeah,

834
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: that was a two years ago and feel like you

835
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 1: you you you just got to getting all the kids

836
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: shoes and you get hook up with all the niggers

837
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: and get the kids shoes and all that type of ship. Man,

838
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot people perceive, you know, your reputation from

839
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: what it was then what you do now because people

840
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: don't want to look beyond. But that's what people have

841
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: to be able to do. They have to be able

842
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: to just like with you, James, the same ship. You

843
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: hear your fucking name and people be like they think

844
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: the same fucking affiliation. They don't know. I mentioned the

845
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: suits and the shoes and all that. So if you

846
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: ever need a donation, let me know. The only person

847
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: I go through now is uh, You're none. You know.

848
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: She got severa angels over there, and I took a

849
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: gang of ship answer turkeys. Uh, I bought a gang

850
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: of ship for backpacks and all that ship show. Anything

851
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: I can do to help with kids and homeless people,

852
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: you can come me in. I drop it off anyway.

853
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: So yes, I know what, especially with the stuff my

854
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: son doing out. You got always talked to Chris about

855
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: him having to give back the community, right, I say, man,

856
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: you know you go ahead and bus to check down.

857
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I said, who you want to help? He said, Pops,

858
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: you know I'll be checking out. You know, he called

859
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: you Coke Hempley. You know, the kids know he was coaching.

860
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, he said, I want to go over

861
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: and help coach Henley. And then because you do it,

862
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: cause y'all look out for them kids over there. Sc man. Yeah,

863
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. M hmm, because you

864
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: know my son was at a gas station he should

865
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: have been at one night and he said, Man, I

866
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: know your pops, you know, take your ass. What is

867
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: you doing over and take your ass back over the campus?

868
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: You know? But man, I got one more question. I

869
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: got two more questions to ask. What's up with the

870
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: checking the in podcast? Man? Oh man? So really, um,

871
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: I just really just put it together with the idea

872
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: we'll figure out we're doing. And um the name came out.

873
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: It's uh, the name is udid. So it's like, I

874
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: want the podcast to talk about the streets. I mean, look,

875
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: it's exactly what y'all do. I looked at what y'all

876
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: was doing, and when you was telling me about it,

877
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 1: I didn't really want to do what I want to

878
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: get a mite. And I figured a lot of people

879
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: are telling men they don't wanna hear what you got

880
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: to say. And they talked me into doing and I

881
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: stand down and I did a couple of pilots, and

882
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I think I can do this. I

883
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,240
Speaker 1: think I can make people feel comfortable enough to really

884
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: express theirselves and to be able to you know, chop

885
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: it up on the couch and asking a hard question

886
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: in in in the right way, you know what I mean.

887
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to do lad, I ain't trying to

888
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: get nobody locked up. I don't want to do nothing

889
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: shocking and and insistive. I want to do I won't

890
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: be be at it really stopping up with a g

891
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: That's that's what they're listening for. They just want to

892
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: hear your your one hunt and and love. As you're

893
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: giving them that man, you got them all, you got them,

894
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna listen. Yeah, yeah, man. That's the beautiful thing

895
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: about this podcast and stuff. It's really allowed us to

896
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: have a voice for us, not going through no motherfucker

897
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: where he can shop it up and make it sound

898
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: like he wanted sound. No this coming straight from us

899
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: and filter the raw. How many times were y'all shooting, like,

900
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: how do y'all what's the platform? Man? Shoot we um

901
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: we shoot um. Like this week this is our second episode.

902
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: We don't done this. We did the one that dropped

903
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: them today already and this one we're doing now man

904
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: to drop you know next week. This is drop on Thursday.

905
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: So we do it once a week and sometimes, man,

906
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: we've at times when we don't knocked off two and

907
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: three shows in a week. Sometimes it's just like, you know,

908
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: because like the convenient time for you to do the

909
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: interview was Thursday at seven o'clock. Okay, that's when we

910
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: go do this interview, you know what I mean? Because

911
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: it's a pride, right, you know what I'm saying, a

912
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: lot of times it just be me James h Is

913
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: sitting shopping up and that's our normal show we're doing

914
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: every Tuesday. Man. But man, it's you know, it's the

915
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: beautiful things that ain't remember the conversation. Don't even look

916
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: at this interview. Yeah it's still good though. It's feel

917
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's feel good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

918
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: Just natural, you know what I'm saying. We're not trying

919
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: to We're not trying to put him niggers up on

920
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: some bullshit where people can come and express theirself, talk

921
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: about their past, or talk about their positive inputs on

922
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: their positive effects on what they're doing right now. So,

923
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of motherfucker's when they hear

924
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: your name or they hear who associated with ship, they

925
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: already get uh estimation of who you are. So we

926
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: try to change that with this podcast and give people

927
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: a platform where they can come and express theirselves and

928
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: people can be like, man niggas is highly intelligent. Motherfucker's

929
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: You feel me, right? You know? You just see that people?

930
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: Is is? You know? Is my biggest thing with this

931
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: ship is I'm trying to look but the outside of people.

932
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: Look at people when they see a black man, don't

933
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: look at it. You don't see just a crip or blood.

934
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: That's a man right there, because we all men before

935
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: you anything else. You come into the world as a

936
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: man or a woman. You know what I mean? Nothing else? Right?

937
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying In this last question I

938
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: got for you? What did what in your definition? Man?

939
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: What did Nipsey mean of l A? What he meant

940
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: to l A is? I don't know what he meant

941
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: to the world, you know, asked you to the world.

942
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: But just he just icon like he's l A's icon. Well,

943
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: let me, I gotta separate that because he what he

944
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: meant to us is different, and what he meant to

945
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: me is different, you know what I mean. I gotta

946
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: tell you what he meant to me. He was my love.

947
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: He was the one I seen first and I said

948
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: he can do m you know what I mean. He

949
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: was the one that I said, out of all the

950
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: people I looked at, I said, to me, put your

951
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: money on this. A lot of people don't know how hard.

952
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because you And that's the thing.

953
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: People gotta understand that it took somebody to say this

954
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: the one. So what the world seen is what I

955
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: already see, you know what I mean, Like you saw

956
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: that from the beginning exactly I saw it. I saw

957
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: what the world had to later come to see. You know.

958
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: I met him when he was a baby, and in

959
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: my mind I knew he could become this because when

960
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: I first met him, he was talking about bullets ain't

961
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: got no name. He was talking about crip walking. He

962
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: was talking about sea walk and he was talking about

963
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: that and in the conversations we had in the natural

964
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: and the natural growth, he became what everybody else can

965
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: respect and then try to equate the pocket and all that.

966
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: But I've seen it first. That's the program still. But

967
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: the most appropriate answer is I've seen it first, you

968
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But out of all the artists

969
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: in the world, you gotta remember I had I had

970
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: been around Snoop, I had been around m C eight,

971
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: I had been around Game, I've been around all these dudes.

972
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I've been around all these dudes before I wouldn't got him,

973
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: and I had to in my mind say who could

974
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: ride with them? Who am I gonna place my my

975
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: my one shot on? You know what I mean. So,

976
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: and that's what people do when you when you see

977
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: this show, you're gonna see in the documentary it's a

978
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of people taking in putting their word behind these artists,

979
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: and these artists is gonna blow up because it got

980
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: to be somebody say, looks, Ray, it's the one, right,

981
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: it's the one. A Game m the one. And when

982
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 1: it was my turn, I told the world, no, he's

983
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: the one. So I can say to the world, now,

984
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: you're always late. I already knew he's he is definitely

985
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: your contribution to hip hop. And I tell people that

986
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: all the time. I say, man, you was he just

987
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: wasn't know over night stuff because I thought it was

988
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: genius what you did two handle holds. No, no longer,

989
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: I just thought it was genius. You kind of threw

990
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: people off at first because sometimes you would have warning

991
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: red based phone caps in the videos and other stuff.

992
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't like you, No, it wasn't like no, like

993
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: what you did was genius. That was a fight in

994
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: the hood too. Let's keep that one hunted. That was

995
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,240
Speaker 1: a fight in the hood. That was a fight because

996
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: you gotta remember when I came home, I don't want nobody.

997
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to set trip and I want my

998
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: sons to feel like you know blood you know, because

999
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: you know this like I was. That was purpose That

1000
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: was purposeful. I purposely did not make sure I watched

1001
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: every video in his early videos, I listened to every lyric.

1002
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: We can't put that out. We ain't gonna sub this

1003
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 1: these niggers, we ain't gonna cross this out of the wall.

1004
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 1: When because when we came with this, you don't understand, bro.

1005
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: We was the first movement to not claim a city,

1006
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: we claimed a set. So it was very difficult because

1007
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: we didn't claim Compton, we didn't claim Watts, we didn't

1008
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: claim the Long Beach, we didn't claim l A. We

1009
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: claimed Rolling Sixties. And so it was a lot of

1010
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: people that was like, no, you can't do that, you

1011
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: can't do it. And I'm like, why were this and

1012
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: nobody went for the this, nobody with the Llena, Nobody

1013
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna do and it was and when in the

1014
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: beginning he didn't want to do no songs with nobody,

1015
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: but wrote the sixties and dudes, it was affiliated with us.

1016
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: So it was put into like, now, man, we gotta

1017
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: do this. We god, you know, and he was he

1018
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: had us. Yeah, he had his feeling. He was young,

1019
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: he was a tiger man. He was you know, he

1020
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: was a cup he's ready to get on. But he

1021
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: got it. He got it. We need to do this,

1022
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta do this to make this. We

1023
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: gotta do this, we gotta They started seeing it was

1024
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: a bigger picture without without you doing that, though, just

1025
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: imagine where he would have been. He probably would have

1026
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: made it if he didn't have that understanding or got

1027
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: that understanding from the big homies, you know what I'm saying.

1028
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: So you pretty much gotta get yourself credit for what

1029
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: you created, and that's showing him that he had to

1030
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: be like versatile in the game to to be successful.

1031
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: And he did that got you shocked. He had he

1032
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: had to be able to receive it and then put

1033
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: it back out, and he was great. He took he

1034
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: took what little I gave him, and then what what

1035
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: a bigger example I gave him? And he made it work.

1036
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: You know, we were together for a short period, but

1037
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: my influence in my neighborhood and my example in my

1038
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: neighborhood still poor than to him. When we had the beef.

1039
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: You understand, it was very short lived. It was longer

1040
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: to everybody else in the world because the end of

1041
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: it made it long. You know what I mean. We

1042
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: had a we had a we had a one day

1043
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: beat that people made long. But we always talked and

1044
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: we always built all the whip into the day past,

1045
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, so I love

1046
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: that I'm not the one who has to say I

1047
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,479
Speaker 1: didn't get to tell him my love you. I don't

1048
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: have that. I don't have that that demon. I'm not

1049
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: the one who who who? Who? Gotta say I missed

1050
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: him and I gave him his award while he was living.

1051
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: I gave the only award he ever guy. Ye know,

1052
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, man, were you man? I can't thank you

1053
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: enough man for coming on the show. I know this

1054
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: is gonna be big, man, because we got to do

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Speaker 1: that pretty much. You know. It's anonymous with the face

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Speaker 1: of l A. They look at the map, but probably

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Speaker 1: a picture You'll ask from that motherfucker for you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. They gotta be high in the back,

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Speaker 1: like man, be glad to get you on your man

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Speaker 1: because you like, like I said, I don't know you

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Speaker 1: a long time man, and I'm just real, I can't

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Speaker 1: say enough good stuff about you. If you do a

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Speaker 1: lot of incredible stuff in the community and we appreciate

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Speaker 1: your brother. I'm back after the thing dropped, after offensively dropped,

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Speaker 1: I'm coming back right well. That concludes another episode of

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Speaker 1: Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles podcast and Norman Steve

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Speaker 1: Brian White, and our audio editors Taylor Hayes. The Gangster

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