1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two, seventy nine, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Episode three of Dirt Dailies. I I Stay, production of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, March fifteenth, 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. My name's Jack O'Brien, ak god. I 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: want a carless Sunday. WHOA let's all just run day? 7 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: WHOA cars are dumb day? WHOA oh, don't drive your 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: truck that weighs a ton day. That is courtesy of 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Christy Amagucci. May just referencing the the idea of carless Sundays, 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: which you know, at a certain point in the Netherlands 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: they decided to stop having cars run their lives. I 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: know there would be a ton of problems at first, 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: and you know, we would have to build up an 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: infrastructure for people to get around if we decided to 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: do that, But still I still think it's a nice 16 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: idea to aspire too. All Right, Well, I am thrilled 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: to be joined by a very special guest co host 18 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: one of the best best podcasters doing it anywhere, an 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: old friend from the crack day is a Jeopardy champion 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: the host of the podcast secretly incredibly fascinating. It's Alex Schmidt. Hey, 21 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: it's me Alex Schmidt. Heyka, John Jacob Jingle trend Er Schmidt. 22 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: There is thank you, thank you too, there us your 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: name is Lady Feet on the discord. I was telling Jack, 24 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: I just searched the name Schmidt in the Zeitgeist discord. 25 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: That may not be for me, but I grabbed it. 26 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. It is for you now. And I took 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: your AKA because you wrote it into the dock. I 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: took your ak to be you are both John Jacob 29 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Jingle Trender Schmidt and also known as Lady Feet on 30 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the disc Yeah, I thought that I was like lady 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: feed Interesting. I like that for you, A truly wild 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: disclosure if that's where I was like that. By the way, 33 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I really in defeat. Ladies could use 34 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: some picks. Thanks Alex. We are thrilled to be joined 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: by an interdisciplinary artist and writer who's writing you can 36 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: read it hyper allergic about stuff like Netflix for getting 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to include Puerto Ricans and their reggaeton show and house 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: psychedelics influenced artists. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Denise 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: the vamp de Ville subis that best intro ever? It's 40 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: wonderful to have you. How are you doing. I'm doing 41 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: really well. I need that intro though, for like that 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: should be my morning alarm. Yeah, make it. We'll give 43 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: you the download. There you go. Um, where's everybody coming from, 44 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: alex I know you're on the East coast as our Yeah, 45 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: we have snow flurries in New York City. Hey watch 46 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: celebrating the IDEs of March with snow. There you go, 47 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: fun times, how about you, Denise. I'm in Denver, Colorado. 48 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: Our weather is actually getting nicer, funny enough, so we're 49 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: seeing some sun. It's a beautiful day out. Hey did 50 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: we trade weathers? Hey? What's going on here? Give it back? Yeah, 51 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: it's a rainy Manhattan day in Los Angeles here as 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: that that seems to be the new norm. It rains 53 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot, which I'm not complaining. I ain't complaining, you 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Denise. One of the things you 55 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: wrote about at hyper Allergic the psychedelic art scene. Psychedelics 56 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: I feel like a're having a moment right now, or 57 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: like increasingly a big part of culture. And I'm like 58 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I was just curious to hear you talk about where 59 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: you think or do you think they're having a moment? 60 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Have they just always been here? I think when I 61 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: was a kid, psychedelics were associated with my parents' generation 62 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: as like hippies, and they just like made it look 63 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: bad and uncool, and so like I wonder if like 64 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: that is just what happened, is we've had enough separation 65 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: from the baby boomers making it look really silly and 66 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: weird that we can now get back into the good 67 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: parts of psychedelics. Yeah. And I think also for my generation, right, 68 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: it's the Dare generation, right, so we caught a lot 69 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: of like just say no to drugs and really nothing else, 70 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: so no one will offer them to you for free, right, 71 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: So I think there was a disconnect there with psychedelics. Now, 72 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're having a moment. I think 73 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: they've always been there. I think that the conversation has 74 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: just become a little bit more open, right, We're open 75 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: to having larger discussion about the impact of a psychologic 76 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: lead mentally and where we're kind of going to go 77 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: from there. And I think it's kind of amazing what's 78 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: going on in so many of the states now as 79 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: we're discussing especially like mushrooms, you know, and more natural, 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: holistic quote unquote ways to get high and to tap 81 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: into other parts of your consciousness. So I'm completely fascinated 82 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: like the whole process. Yeah, yeah, I don't mean to 83 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: imply I just found out about psychedelics like when Joe 84 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: Rogan started talking about them, but like, yeah, they they've 85 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: been around for a while. I do feel like they're 86 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: getting like somewhat more even like mainstream cultural purchase than 87 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: they they've had even in the recent, fairly recent past. 88 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: So your articles really fascinating. We'll link off to it 89 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: in the footnotes, but everyone should go check it out. Yeah, 90 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: with I'm curious with reporting something out like that, like 91 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: are people down to talk about it and share about 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: it or are they still kind of don't use my 93 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: name or don't share details about me. That was what 94 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: I was afraid. I was completely petrified that people were 95 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: going to be like, absolutely don't share who I am. 96 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: But I particularly went through the painstaking process of finding 97 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: artists that are already pretty open about that conversation and 98 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: that are really like have dived deep into the whole 99 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: conversation and what they're kind of going to do with 100 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: it in the future and with their work. So I 101 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: got really lucky, like with Alex and Alison Gray, you know, 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: who were amazing, Like they were just like, he here's 103 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: all of this information on psychedelics. I was like, dude, 104 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: I should do this. Sometimes sounds cool. Yeah, So I 105 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: was purposely looking for artists that were open. Yeah, and you, 106 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: yourself or an artist, can you to talk about a 107 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: little bit about like something you're working on right now 108 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 1: or something you recently completed. Yeah. So I'm mixed media interdisciplinary, 109 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: which is always weird to say. Sometimes they just say 110 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: like I'm a very highly hyphenated creative, like I'm everywhere 111 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: and all over the place. And that's part of my 112 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: neurodivergence as well, right Like I cannot sit there for 113 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: like more than a certain amount of time on one 114 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of project, soart to jump all over and for 115 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: me right now, I've been focusing a lot of my 116 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: work on kind of reclaiming, reconnecting and healing the imagery 117 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: of the Daino people of the Caribbean with my work 118 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: and kind of retelling their stories. They're like Taro and 119 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, framework that looks really baroque and lots of 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: gold and stuff. I'm like giving my gold back. So 121 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: that's been a lot of what I've been working on 122 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: right now, and I should be doing an exhibition soon 123 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: with Redline Contemporary Art Center. Still very hush hush, but 124 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I guess it's not so much because I just said it. Yeah, 125 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: bleeping all this out, Yeah yeah, Yeah, We're gonna get 126 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 127 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things 128 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: we're talking about to day. I'm seeing the shoplifting panic 129 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: story bubble up again, so I just wanted to offer 130 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: an update to our listeners on that that it's still bullshit, 131 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: still bullshit. It's even more real than you thought. Yes, 132 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about lunchables, so big, big win. There's 133 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: the story from ABC seven dot com that reports the 134 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: fact that they're going to be serving lunchables as like 135 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: school lunches going forward starting next year, and it's reported 136 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: like the story is told as a like success story 137 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: for Kraft Hinds. It's like an underdog success story about 138 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: how they got in line with the nutritional requirements to 139 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: have this victory. So I want to just talk about that, 140 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on lunchables in general, your experiences. This 141 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: was apparently one of the biggest BIS success stories of 142 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: my lifetime that I wasn't aware it was a business 143 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: success story. I was just eating the lunchables as a child. 144 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: But Oscar Meyer saved their bacon, so to speak, by 145 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: inventing lunchables, and it was like this massive success and 146 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: probably very bad for everyone. I do I like to 147 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: figure of speech because they probably withheld the good bacon 148 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: for other products, like lunchables had much worse meat than bacon. Yeah, yes, 149 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: saving their bacon and providing meat paste to the rest 150 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: of us. Yeah, even in the ingredients. I love how 151 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: it's like meat meat alternative. Yes, Okay, I don't need 152 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: to know what it is. Hey, it was the nineties. 153 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Alternative was huge alternative music, so they we were we 154 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: were down for some meat alternative, some grunge meat. We're 155 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: a little flannel. Yeah, yeah, all of that plenty more. 156 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: But first denise the vamptaville sub sa. Do you have 157 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: something from your search history that is revealing about who 158 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: you are? It's so funny my search history is and 159 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: I know I can curse on here because I've heard it, right, 160 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: So I'm super excited because I'm still a Puerto Rican 161 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: girl from Jersey, right, like I have a dirty potty now. 162 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: And I'm a former sailor as well, so it's like wow, 163 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: years away, like sailing boats for real? Uh No, I 164 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: was in the United States Navy veteran. Yeah, so I 165 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: that's thank you for clarifying as some one ships, but 166 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: that's for real and thank you fantastic, Yeah, thank you 167 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: actual sailing. I have no idea like so, but my 168 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: search history is pretty much a clusterfuck of shit, Like 169 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm constantly googling everything because I am just like dying 170 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: to be a useless bat of like information for some 171 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: strange reason. But the most recent thing I googled, I 172 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: think was probably partly frightening and then pertly like just 173 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: pure scientific curiosity, where I was like, can I do 174 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: this in my own home? Where scientists found out that 175 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: there was a they found a zombie virus that spent 176 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: like forty eight thousand years frozen in the perma frost. WHOA, Okay, 177 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: the virus doesn't make you a zombie, right, The virus 178 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: itself is a zombie because they brought it back to life, 179 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: good good thinking. First of all, Yeah, there's so much 180 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: at the perma frost, Like, you know, we haven't had 181 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: enough of crazy viruses in our sci fi plot decade, 182 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: so apparently we need to add some more. And that 183 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: was kind of insane. Yeah, people say they're not doing 184 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: enough about climate change and the melting of the polarized caps, 185 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: but they're bringing back zombie viruses. That's something, right, They're 186 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: yeah getting to work there. Yeah, it sounds like more life, 187 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: not less. Yeah, more life hords so basically good. And 188 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: are people worried about it? Are they? Is it going 189 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: to increase our scientific understanding of what it was like 190 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: to have a cold in the Paleolithic or like what 191 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: is the what's the end goal here? Like, to be fair, 192 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: the virus is very large, which is interesting. Rightly you 193 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: could see it under a regular microscope instead of needing 194 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: like all sorts of other technologies to kind of zoom 195 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: into it. But it's specific to like single cell organisms, 196 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: So they're not trying to bring back a virus that's 197 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: going to kill the entire human rings, right, and then 198 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: make a movie after it, right with the five people 199 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: that are left behind, probably Joe Rogan will be one 200 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: of them, yes, Joe Rogan, Chris Brett. I haven't settled 201 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: on the other three, but yeah, yeah, but it is. 202 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: It's to try to help us kind of learn a 203 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: little bit more about how kind of viruses develop where 204 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: we are in that process, you know, and dissecting all 205 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: of the things that they're kind of finding as these 206 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: perm as the permafrost starts to bounce. Yeah, and I'm fascinated, 207 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: but at the same time, like, I don't trust anyone 208 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: enough to be like science, you've got this. You haven't 209 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: fucked us yet. Let you take this one. It's funny 210 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: to me to think about viruses that are big, like 211 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: you can see, like there'd be a much easier to 212 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: avoid the common cold if it was just like a guy, 213 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: like a thing that was hanging out on the surface 214 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: of you know, everything that my six year old touches, 215 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: because animals were so much bigger in the ice age, right, 216 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: Like it's a wooly mammoth equivalent of a virus or 217 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: like a virus tiger instead of a housecat. Yeah, ivirus 218 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: eats you really cute personalities too, that's the thing. They're 219 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: like little woofies. They're they're so hard to resist that, Yeah, 220 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? I was it's 221 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: so interesting because I was looking at these that I 222 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: was like, Man, this is going to be difficult for 223 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: me because I actually have a list of things that 224 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: are annoying me. Let them know. It's like the first 225 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: thing on my list, and I think overrated. The first 226 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: thing on my list definitely is the term latin X. 227 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of hearing it, and I just did 228 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: a talk on it also at Redline where I kind 229 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: of had to like share some information where I'm like, 230 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: I really don't understand why we're kind of persisting in 231 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: this space, and I don't think a lot of people 232 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: really are having that discussion. The majority of people in 233 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: the community don't really use it. So I finally like, 234 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: it's absolutely annoying to me that it's still here, It's 235 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: sticking around, and it's everywhere I can't escape it. Right, 236 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: is the word that you prefer is Latino like for 237 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: broad or what? What? What is the preferred word for me? 238 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: I prefer to just be called Puerto Rican in Cuban. Sure, 239 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: it's much more descriptive. Right, so that you understand what 240 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: my cultural nuance is right my milieu, Yeah, totally. And 241 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: so the term Latino in general to me or Hispanic 242 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: or all of these other kind of terms that jumble 243 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: us all in together, just continue this process of us 244 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: being all seen as the same, right, continuing that monolitht 245 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: So for me, it's kind of like Latin X. It's like, 246 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, you've heard it, right, you can shine a turd, 247 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: but it's still a turd, right, You're trying to modernize 248 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: a term that's already like super offensive invested up, So like, 249 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I really don't understand the need for the hegemonic like 250 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: nature of it, right, for it to now have an 251 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: English ending, like have the woke version of the hegemonic 252 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: insulting term. Yeah, we're good here, okay, I put. Yeah, 253 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: well that's good. Yeah, I think formative. Yeah, it's good 254 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: to hear about that, because I've heard a little bit 255 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: about it in general. Yeah, that it's sort of been 256 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: imposed from outside or brought in by people who didn't 257 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: ask for new words or additional words that aren't as helpful. Right, 258 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: And there was already like a gender inclusive word in Spanish, 259 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: so latine already existing. So it was interesting to see 260 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: the X kind of get thrown in where you're like, dude, 261 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: we don't I don't use it X ever, like it's there, 262 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: but don't talk about it, Like how did you put 263 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: it at the end of the word, Like this is 264 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: so confusing, And it just seems like English now is 265 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: really starting to meld in and we've kind of moved 266 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: from a new level of Spanglish to just the bastardry 267 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: of these languages together. Yeah. Wow, What is something you 268 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: think is underrated? Underrated? For me definitely is the Puerto 269 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: Rican independence movement. I think a lot of the time 270 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: it's like it's always statehood and everybody wants to talk 271 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: about statehood, and I'm like, nobody wants to be a 272 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: state right read the room, Like, so, I think the 273 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: talk of Puerto Rican independence is often like pushed aside, 274 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: even in the major movements that it had throughout time. 275 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: Right now especially, it's definitely not getting the push that 276 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: I think it really needs to have because there's not 277 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of background and how it can be something 278 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: that's functional. So I think it's definitely underrating. The guy 279 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: who invented Latin X is like, fine, will let you 280 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: be a state, but you owe us. Okay, how many 281 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: favors do I have to do? You jee? But you 282 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: don't like debt. You don't like debt. Wow, all right, 283 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back, and 284 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the wave of shoplifting that is taking 285 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: over the country and making it hard for our favorite people. 286 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: They're people too. Walmart is a person, and we need 287 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: to admit that and take care of our Walmart. We'll 288 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back. And I think it's 289 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: since the last time we covered shoplifting, we talked about 290 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: the wave of shoplifting being out of control that was 291 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: used to try to get Chase A. Bootine out of 292 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: office in San Francisco and like helped lead to his 293 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: successful recall, and just generally that was a favorite talking 294 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: point on the right for a while. And in the 295 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: mainstream media, you know, the New York Times is not 296 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: immune from a story decrying the crime wave that's out 297 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: of control and writing an op edge that says, all 298 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: we need to do is higher one million more police officers, 299 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: and America's problems will go away. So since the last 300 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: time we cover this, there's been a couple of big 301 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: stories about shoplifting focused on the walls, both Mart and Greens, 302 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: Walmart and Walgreens. And the news story that I'm seeing 303 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: everywhere in the past week is that Walmarc Walmart is 304 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: saying that they don't call them their name, they're Walmart. 305 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Now we don't like their Walmart Walmarc's Walmart claims they've 306 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: had to close every single Portland's store because of shoplifting. 307 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: That that is how I've seen it quoted on Twitter. 308 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: They've had to close every single Walmart in Portland, like 309 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: they are their stores there still every single Walmart. It 310 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: turns out there were two Walmarts in all of Portland 311 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: and they had to close these two stores for reasons. 312 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: That so, at the end of last year, their CEO 313 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: got on an earnings call and dick ride theft. It 314 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: was around the same time that the Walgreen CEO was 315 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: getting on an earnings call and being like, we were exaggerating. 316 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: There really wasn't this massive theft problem. But anyways, I 317 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: think this story is getting traction because people want to 318 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: believe that Portland is a city that's out of control 319 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: like San Francisco. They just want the entire West Coast 320 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: to be liberal progressives who've lost control of their societies 321 00:20:54,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: and that's the problems are coming home to roost West. 322 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: That's right, the ocean turns them crazy liberal West. Yeah, 323 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure that has been a chiron on 324 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlton shot show, like the Wild Probably not liberal, 325 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: probably more like the Wild Marxists West or something like that. Yeah, 326 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: that's easily one of my least favorite conservative tropes. That's 327 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: a heated competition. There's a lot of bandwids, but like 328 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: being being from Illinois, they just demonize Chicago that way, 329 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin just demonizes Milwaukee like conservatives just want to 330 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: argue that we should remove cities as if they are 331 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: not part of the country. Yeah, even though they're full 332 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: of people from the country. There's actually a lot of 333 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Americans in there. No, yes, but dare those people county? 334 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: So the truth Usually these articles are fueled by industry 335 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: groups and you know, city departments of commerce or you know, 336 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: lobbying groups, and the statistics are always super vague when 337 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: it comes to what, you know, how much shoplifting has grown. 338 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: It's always anecdotal as fuck. And but even on this 339 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Walmart story, which is gaining so much attraction, even the 340 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: industry groups are like, this doesn't seem to be what's 341 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: going on here. So there's this article from Oregon Live 342 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: that says thefton other crime. The Walmart watchers said, it's 343 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: surely a concern for the chain, but the impact is 344 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: is rarely enough to close an otherwise successful store without 345 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: warning and especially without appeals to local officials for assistance. 346 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: That's the other thing. They never actually want to do 347 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: anything about this problem other than, you know, get the 348 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: media on their side by complaining about it. And then 349 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: they say, the decision to close down a store is 350 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: typically linked to sales, said Neil Saunders, Managing director of 351 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: the Retail division at Global Data, which often has nothing 352 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: to do with thefts or shoplifting. And then they point 353 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: out that Walmart just has never had success in Portland 354 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: because the people of Portland prefer established stores like fred Meyer, 355 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: which that's just a guy's name but apparently also a 356 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: store in Portland, and it also sells general merchandise alongside groceries. 357 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: And they say Walmart typically needs to be where they 358 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: can be a big player and capture all the shares. 359 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: There are some locations where they've struggled to gain a 360 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: strong foothold and they've left those places. So this man, Yeah, 361 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: I just it drives me so nuts when any highly automated, 362 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: highly mechanized business suddenly loses track of all the numbers. 363 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: When they want to how we track shoplifting, We're we're 364 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: basically a bodega. Stuff is just on our shelves. I 365 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: don't know, we don't, we don't know. Yeah, that's right. Well, 366 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: you know that if this was the problem that was 367 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: causing them to have to close stores, they would be 368 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: working with Boston Dynamic to create some manner of robotic 369 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: security cat that, like every Walmart would have a greater 370 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: that was also an ED two O nine from RoboCop 371 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: that could just turn around and light people up. Like 372 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: that's that is what would happen in America if this 373 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: was as big a problem as they claim it is. Yeah, 374 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: to your point, Alex. The so the way that the 375 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: company's account for this is they lump theft in with 376 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: shrinkage is what they call it, which includes problems they 377 00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: have tracking inventory. So like, and people who work at 378 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: Walmart are like, no, that like it's a small part 379 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: of that. It's most of the problem is that they 380 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: lose track of inventory because it's a massive store, and 381 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: like you know, things get lost or they over order 382 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: and the orders are under delivered, and it's just like 383 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: general businessman fuck ups, and of course they don't want 384 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: First of all, that's more boring than showing videos of 385 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, an isolated incident of a shoplifter, you know, 386 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: doing something awesome like shoplifting. Yeah, exactly. The name is 387 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: out of control. Yeah, I feel like it was a 388 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: corporate ploy, like from the top of the top, like 389 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: they had a meeting. They sat down and they were like, 390 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: how can we get away with making people think that 391 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: we're losing money? I know, have them check out themselves. 392 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: How do we make ourselves the victims in this store? 393 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: This narrative where we just like parachute into the middle 394 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: of a community and put all of the businesses out 395 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: of out of business by just you know, using our 396 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,719 Speaker 1: massive scale. I know, we claim that after we've put 397 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: all those businesses out of business and people are so 398 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: hungry they have to occasionally shoplift, we blame the shoplift 399 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: for rising prices because yeah, and then they put in 400 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that prime option, right, so it's like right here, you 401 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: go check yourself out. There gets Okay, don't worry about it. Hey, 402 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: we're not going to arrest you laters. Stop it. That's 403 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: the other thing we talked about is that a lot 404 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: of the shrinkage that's happening is because and a lot 405 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: of the theft is driven by the fact that they 406 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: have switched to automated checkouts. Right, Automated checkout systems make 407 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: it much easier to shoplift. They have. It's not like 408 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: they were not aware of that when they switched to 409 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: automated systems. They just made the calculation that the theft 410 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: was not going to cost them as much as they 411 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: were saving by not having to pay human employees. Yeah, 412 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: they just they just built it in and now they're 413 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: like finding one video of one guy, right, and especially 414 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: honestly shout out to anybody's shoplifting food. Keep it up. 415 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: There is humongous food waste all across America all the time. 416 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: We have a community fridge here that we've been like 417 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: getting stuff for and it turns out you can just 418 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: because stores are like, we don't sell all this stuff 419 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: have it. So if you're shoplifting it, you're basically doing 420 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: it that good. You're putting the food use like you 421 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: know legally, I did not tell you to do that. 422 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: Legal handwif read you know, wink wink quick Alex did 423 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: put parents. He did put bracket around the brackets around 424 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: the whole thing with his hands, so legally you cannot 425 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: sue him. Official, so official, yes. So they grow out 426 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: so much too, Like have you ever seen the dumpsters 427 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: behind a Walmart? Like they push it to the end possible, 428 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: like the possible degree of like this is still kind 429 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: of good, but not really, but I would rather throw 430 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: it away that give it to you. So it's like 431 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: there their purchase orders and like the whole thing is 432 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: just such a mess that it's just kind of hilarious 433 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: to me that they're confused. I was reading in the old. 434 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: I was reading an old I forget what it was, 435 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: but it was like an old work of nonfiction, like 436 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: from I think it was like the eighties or nine. Oh, 437 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a City of Courts actually about La, 438 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: like the really great history of La and everybody should 439 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: check it out. But the author is writing about this 440 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: new thing that they're seeing, and he like can't get 441 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: his mind around it. And it's that they put locks 442 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: on their dumpsters too, and he's just like how dystopian 443 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: is this world where they're putting locks on their dumpsters 444 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: And that's something that I've like took Mike Davis as 445 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: the author. So Mike Davis is like writing in the 446 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: about Los Angeles in the early nine these like late eighties, 447 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: as like they've started putting locks on the dumpsters to 448 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: prevent people from getting to the food that they're wasting. 449 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Like what is happening? And that's something that I just 450 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: was like hedge taken for granted a long time ago 451 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: that that's just something corporations do. But it's interesting to 452 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: see see somebody see it again with fresh eyes and 453 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: just be like, oh no, what are we becoming? And 454 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: then the guy from the corporation is like, not only 455 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: could they get food out of this, they could use 456 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: it for shelter. Imagine that horrible event, right if someone 457 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: did that, if they have like yes, because this is 458 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: my top choice, right, Like I definitely want to be 459 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: in the meat dumpster behind the Walmart in the middle 460 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: of a blizzard. You know that's a Friday for me? Um? 461 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh is that where I know you from? Were we 462 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: in the same in the same This is what kids 463 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: are doing these days? This is where they party, is 464 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: that the dumpsters behind walmarts to get free handouts. The 465 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: other article that I was seeing a lot of a 466 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: few weeks back is a supposed deep dive by New 467 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: York Magazine that like goes into the seed underbelly of 468 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: these crime rings that are supposedly driving this out of 469 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: control problem in New York and that it like definitely 470 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: starts from the position of, Hey, you're in New York. 471 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: You've seen that all of your like all the things 472 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: that Walgreens and Dwayne Reid are locked in big clear 473 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: plastic boxes. What's up with that? And so they're you know, 474 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: use that as the starting point, and they're like, crime 475 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: is out of control, and they get listened to these people, 476 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, the industry experts who are like they're actually 477 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: big organized crime rings or these people called boosters who 478 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: just nine to five take stuff from store shelves. That's 479 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: an organized crime wave. And they find no evidence of that, 480 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: like all all the shoplifting is. He doesn't find a 481 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: single example of somebody who's a shoplifter, like a regular 482 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: shoplifter who's not trying to support an addiction, like a 483 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: drug habit like that. It's just desperate people. Yeah, all 484 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: of these stories are like almost just scorsesy movies or 485 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: something like. Just get your entertainment that way, folks, you 486 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: don't need to read these faky news stories that claim 487 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: this is going got like, just consume crime fiction. There's 488 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,479 Speaker 1: so much of it out there. Yeah, just go all 489 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: the way they're coming for the couponers next, you know, like, yeah, 490 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: i'd see that at the arc light or whatever. Sure, yeah, totally. 491 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Like my Southwest, they openly acknowledge like their statistics are 492 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: impossible to buy, but they don't acknowledge that the fact 493 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: that statistics are impossible to come by is because the 494 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: companies don't want you to know, like that it's not 495 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: as big a problem as you that as your story 496 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: wants it to be. And then there's just a lot 497 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: of language like this to the extent that there has 498 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: been a nationwide spike in shoplifting and the problem likely 499 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: got worse during the pandemic. So it's just a lot 500 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: of those words that if you have like taken a 501 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: journalism course or something, you're like, uh huh, oh okay, 502 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: So we were just suppose supposing that there is this 503 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: problem that this entire article is predicated on because it's 504 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: clunky enough that it sounds like they forced the anti 505 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: shoplifting robot to write it, like they sat about a computer, 506 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: beat their big metal hands at it. Yeah, you tell 507 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: them what was right? You tell them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 508 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: This is a quote from the area. Every generation goes 509 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: through a shoplifting panic, and comprehensive data on this frequently 510 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: unreported crime is nearly impossible to come by, and it's like, yeah, 511 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: there's there's a reason why you're you're getting the scoop 512 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: on this one. And other journalistic institutions have not done 513 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: their big shoplifting article yet, but it doesn't stop people 514 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: from writing about. The New York Post had a headline 515 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: Walmart too close remaining Portland stores as crime ridden city 516 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: battles shoplifting wave. So it's you know, it's going to 517 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: keep going, unfortunately, and that's frustrating. But as long as 518 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: as long as we know, you know, as long as 519 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: we know the truth. I feel like I'm talking to 520 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: like a five year old. Well, you know, you have friends, 521 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: so don't listen to them. They're bullies. Yeah I do. 522 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: I do. Always kind of hope this story will this 523 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: kind of story will wear itself out, you know, like 524 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: every every election they've been doing a conservative story about 525 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: a migrant care van, and you would think there's not 526 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: enough juice in that to do it eternally, you know, 527 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: And so hopefully this one wears out too. Everybody owns 528 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: a thesaurus over there, right, like they're just lifting in 529 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: every way. You just headline again, different words though, yeah, 530 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah. And by the way, if you're shoplifting 531 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: at the saurus almost as good as shoplifting food, keep 532 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: it up. That's that's just gonna teach you stuff. That's 533 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: I honor that we support the shoplifting of food. And 534 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: the sourus size I don't know. I don't know the 535 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 1: souss of all the time to not have one, oh boy, 536 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: oh geez. Does the sourus have the soaurus in it? 537 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Does it have the word the sourus in it? It 538 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: just creates a black hole when you look for it. 539 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, this is I don't know. There's I'm 540 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: reminded a lot in covering the news these days. I'm 541 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: remind did a lot of the documentary hyper Normalization and 542 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: just the concept of that, which is that we created 543 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: this massive global economy that is too powerful and has 544 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: too much inertia for anybody to do anything about. So 545 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: we're all and have been for the past, like since 546 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: the eighties, just been sitting back and watching whatever it 547 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: chooses to do. Like whatever this massive like hyper I 548 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: don't know, I wouldn't call it a hyper intelligence, but 549 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,439 Speaker 1: like it's making decisions that aren't controlled by any human 550 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: and we're just sitting back, like watching it and trying 551 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: to tell a story around it. At this you just 552 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: described the shape monster from Dogma. Yeah, yeah, well Dogma 553 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: Guts first thing that popped in my head. But yeah, 554 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: I mean the with climate with and yeah anything with 555 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: it prices change, it prices going up, and people needing 556 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: to steal to eat, and it's all just sitting back 557 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: and trying to tell stories about this thing that. You know, 558 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: we talked yesterday about this massive drilling project that Biden 559 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: just approved, and it's like this vast chunk of land 560 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: in Alaska, and in order to make it possible, they 561 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: have to put chillers into the earth to make the 562 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: earth cold enough for them to be able to drill 563 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: into the earth to get the oil out, which will 564 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: then exacerbate climate change. And it's it's just like, you know, 565 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: he ran on stopping these sorts of things, but it's 566 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: there's just this massive machine that's out of everybody's control, 567 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: and everybody's just posturing around it. Basically, I see the 568 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: next story here. It's about lunchables, just humongous economy forces. 569 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm imagining like a lunchable's pizza over the earth, like 570 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: the Independent Stayship. Yes, like we're just yeah, you know, yeah, 571 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm ready welcome to Earth. And he takes a bite 572 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: out of it, you know. Yeah, all right, let's take 573 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come back and talk about 574 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: good news such as the lunchables will now be a 575 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: core part of school lunches. We'll be right back, and 576 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: we're back and speaking of the extra Extra Cheesy because 577 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: that is one of the flavors that made it into 578 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: like made it through the school nutrition filter and is 579 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: going to be on offer. There's the turkey cheese crackers 580 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: and the extra cheesy pizza is the other version of 581 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: lunchables that will children will be able to buy for 582 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 1: school lunch next year that I never did, you guys 583 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: ever eat the cheese pizza version of lunchables that always 584 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: grossed me out so much, far too many times, my friend, 585 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: far too many times. How does it not feel like 586 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: you're eating a pizza before it's in the oven? Or 587 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: is that what it feels like? To be fair, I 588 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: was living in Florida at the time, so if you 589 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: just left it outside for a little while, you were 590 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: good there you go, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, 591 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: and nothing else would eat it. So it was great, 592 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: Like you could put it on the sidewalk at the bottom, 593 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, ants wouldn't touch it. You're like, this is 594 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: this is totally good for me. I'm gonna put this 595 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: in my pie hole. Super gross. The ants just move 596 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood. So the story is framed as 597 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a story would be in the United States, 598 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: as a success story for I mean, we're like we've 599 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: been talking about how the new go to movie protagonist 600 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: is like brands that we like, you know, the The 601 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: Air Jordan one of my favorite most beloved brands. There's 602 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: a movie coming out that is where that's essentially the protagonists. 603 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: They didn't even cast anybody to play Michael Jordan. It's 604 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: just the story of like people coming up with the 605 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: marketing idea that people like. People I've heard of who 606 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: saw it say it's good. It's directed by Ben Affleck, 607 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: who has made things that I've enjoyed in the past. 608 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: But when when I was growing up in Chicago, I 609 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of posters on my wall of the 610 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: shoe company executives who had developed Yeah that film Nights 611 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: poster where he's just kind of leaning against a wall 612 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 1: and a brown blazer. Yeah, but this ABC News story 613 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: is kind of written from that perspective. The opening sentence, 614 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,439 Speaker 1: Kraft Times has succeeded in getting it's ready to eat 615 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,239 Speaker 1: packaged lunchables into school lunch programs starting this fall in 616 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: a major new initiative. So we know who our protagonist is. 617 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: It's the Kraft Times company, and they've apparently been trying 618 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: to do this for a while. Like, that's what I 619 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: got from that whole line. Yes, Oh, this isn't new. Yes, 620 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: it's been a long effort of just having honest conversations 621 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: and probably no lobbying efforts or anything like that. No, 622 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 1: it's right, it's probably been. Yeah, this is the problem 623 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: with having a society that is run by massive multinational 624 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 1: corporations who are ultimately making the decisions and like have 625 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: the power to bend regulatory agencies to their will. So, 626 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: in what seems like a major emission of guilt, in 627 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 1: order to get their food for kids served alongside you know, 628 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: burnt rectangular pizza, Sloppy Joe's, like the stuff that is 629 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: normally in school lunches, they had to reformulate the ingredients 630 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: to meet the guidelines of like stuff that you should 631 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: be allowed to serve two kids that's actually put food 632 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: in it. Yes, yeah, well we can't just give them salt. 633 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: It would It would be funny if these are amazing. Now, 634 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: I do want to see one where like it comes 635 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,320 Speaker 1: out and it's this amazing gourmet pizza or something, because beautiful. 636 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: I would just watch all the all the kids squirting 637 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: that sauce onto that cracker which is a pizza, and 638 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: I just never looked great. But man, I've read the 639 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 1: ingredients and I love that the sauces that it says 640 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: like red an orange vegetable paste, and I'm like, I 641 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,959 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what that means. I don't even 642 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: do I want to know what that means. I think 643 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: that's that's always a real problem when they go from 644 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: extremely complicated scientific terms that like make your brain hurt 645 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: to even try and like figure out how to pronounce 646 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: them back to something that is like extra basic like 647 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: natural flavors or yeah, red and orange vegetable paste is like, oh, 648 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: why are you guys being so vague? That is that 649 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: suggests there is danger here. Hey, we disclosed both colors. Okay, 650 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 1: we disclosed both colors, being very open about this, that's right. Yeah, 651 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: you should have seen it first. Okay, it was a 652 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: really horrible ship round and we managed to make it 653 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: work with some food coloring and some pure carries, like 654 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,959 Speaker 1: you've got this, Like that's and that is the act 655 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: one break where you where they succeed in getting the 656 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: brown paste to look red. And that's when that that's 657 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: what gets people excited for. That's like the inciting incident 658 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: in the in the movie about lunchables getting to be 659 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: the school lunch directed by Ben Affleck It so it 660 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: looks more like pizza every day, Like I really want 661 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 1: to see that. That that movie would be amazing, Like 662 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: obviously you couldn't, you'd have to call them something different, 663 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, just a really straight faced, triumphant tale of 664 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: them trying to get these under the sensors who are like, 665 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: this is this isn't food, Like I can't, it can't 666 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: in good conscience. Let let you sell this to children. 667 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: And they're like, go back to the drawing board. It's 668 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna be food. You get on board. Yeah, they're like, 669 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: it's food to me. Musical yeah, immediately you have to 670 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: break out his song. It's so bad, like yeah, but 671 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: they still will be selling the sodium bomb variety that 672 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty like, when I eat something that is this 673 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: high in sodium, I look the next day like my 674 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: face was like be stung all over the place from 675 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 1: just the amount of water retention that happens when you 676 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: have this much sodium. But I have been giving your 677 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: bees so much grief and now I too, Yeah, the 678 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,959 Speaker 1: whole hive. I know. Well that's what I tell people. 679 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,760 Speaker 1: I slew forward, I've been be stung. But it's actually 680 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: just ate four bowls of ramen the night before instant 681 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,479 Speaker 1: ramen choices. Can't open my eyes all the way. But yeah, 682 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: so I don't know that this feels like what we 683 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: should expect. This is what our best scientific minds are 684 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: working on, Like now that they've mastered the doritos, like 685 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: the mouth feel of the nacho cheese doritos and made 686 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: them like as addictive as possible, and you know, figured 687 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: out how to turn them into taco bell taco shells. 688 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,840 Speaker 1: They are onto bringing the cold, extra cheesy pizza factory 689 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: aid meals like just under the barrier for nutrition guidelines 690 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: and still addictive enough to probably warp the entire health 691 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: of these children for years to come. But I don't 692 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: know the the other goal here that they really By 693 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: reading an article wherein Kraft Hinds is the protagonist, you 694 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: get this they're just openly like sharing what their goals are. 695 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Like they said one of the main selling points for 696 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: schools is that the lunchables for schools don't need to 697 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: be frozen but kept refrigerated, quote, minimizing school labor needs 698 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: and costs. So it's just a way to cut out 699 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: more labor to fire lunch ladies essentially, I don't know 700 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: how they're saving costs them, like does it It's going 701 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: to create more waste, right, oh for sure? So doubt 702 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna spend more in disposing of this waste that 703 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: you're definitely not going to recycled, right and right, which 704 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 1: even if you did recycle, it probably wouldn't actually get recycled, right, 705 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: so like the cycle continues, you know, fun times. Yeah. 706 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I feel like this is related to Walmart in the 707 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: sense that a lot of capitalism for the past like 708 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: thirty years has just been reformatting, like our markets and 709 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: our you know, societies, so that all of the is 710 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: just being like siphoned by these big central corporations, right, 711 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: and so this is another way to just cut out 712 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: any spending that goes to the local community, like in 713 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: the form of chefs who come into the schools and 714 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: like make hot lunches for children, Like you gotta get 715 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: rid of that, because that's wasted spending. We could just 716 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: be getting that money directly here at Kraft Hinds and 717 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: just siphon all the money directly to a publicly traded corporation. 718 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: I also wonder, like, what are the pharmaceutical drugs that 719 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: are going to come from this being advertised to children 720 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: going to look like, right, here's for your hypertension, and 721 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: it's in the shape of a you know, yeah, to 722 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: be like flintstone gummies, you know, for hypertension, and like 723 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: seven year olds, Yeah, don't worry. We used every color again. 724 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: We are really big on the whole rainbow. You know 725 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 1: the rainbow, right, great, we used the whole rainbow. Looked 726 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: at him. You don't know what a zucchini is, but 727 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: you know, you know what this color is, right, It 728 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: kind of looks like something healthy. Yeah, you don't know 729 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: what zucchini is, but you know green vegetable paste that 730 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: you get to spread on your turkey and cheese crackers. 731 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: We actually have to put the turkey and quotes on 732 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: the box, unfortunately, but yeah, you again, if we read 733 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: it out loud, we have to say it in a 734 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: really sarcastic voice. It's just it's the law. We follow 735 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: law right for the purposes of and by the instruction 736 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: of our legal department that will be making this entire 737 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: statement in air quotes. Thank you. And then so I 738 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 1: just want to read this other quote from later on 739 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: the article. But offering lunchables in school cafeterias might be 740 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: welcome in some school districts that are struggling with higher 741 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: food costs than labor shortages, says Diane Prett Hevner, spokesperson 742 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: for the School Nutrition Association, a trade group with fifty 743 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: thousand members representing school food service providers. So the it's 744 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: that that seems like, okay, that person was on part 745 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: of an organization that got lobbied to ship to uselessness. 746 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: But also just the higher food costs and labor shortages 747 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,479 Speaker 1: are also these talking points of like, well, you could 748 00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:01,240 Speaker 1: lower the prices on food because the inflation was really 749 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,359 Speaker 1: just a thing where fuel companies decided to raise raise 750 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: prices and get more get more money. And then labor 751 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: shortages is the thing where it's you know, sorry, guys, 752 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: we can't open the bar because nobody wants to work anymore. 753 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: It's like like some school districts are struggling, like in 754 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 1: other words, marginalized communities that we don't want to feed properly. Yeah, 755 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: like that's exactly what they're trying to say, Like we 756 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: know these kids at like charter schools and like these 757 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: really really well funded areas are not going to be 758 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: eating extra extra cheesy lunchable hardwork pizza. Right. Yes, they're 759 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,479 Speaker 1: ordering from like door dash for lunch. They're like, Mom, 760 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm having sushi. Don't care what's on this lunch many right, 761 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have it delivered for me today. So I 762 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: also find that that's kind of funny. Like the way 763 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 1: that they tend to work those things make it seem 764 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 1: like they're trying to really help in a situation where 765 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 1: they're actually just making things so much worse for those 766 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: children in those communities. Yes, yeah, I also wonder if 767 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: if kids know how powerful this Kraft Heinz company is, right. 768 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: I think I was a kid when they merged those 769 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: used to be two companies, and they were already huge, 770 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,320 Speaker 1: and then they were yeah even, and then they just decided, 771 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: we don't like to compete with each other, and let's 772 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,439 Speaker 1: just be all of the food. Like like, there's there's 773 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,280 Speaker 1: so many levers for solving the problem they have described, 774 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to just be their favorite lever 775 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: to pull, you know what I mean, We can we 776 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: can do other ways to do this. Yeah. I also 777 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: wonder if they saw the school lunch debt stories that 778 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: we all saw. Instead of seeing like a problem that 779 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 1: illustrated how bad things have gotten in our country, they 780 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: like saw an opportunity to like get some of that 781 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: squeet sweet school lunch money. They're cool school lunch debt, 782 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 1: you say, that's that's where it's at. School lunches call 783 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Anyways, what did you guys have 784 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: a favorite lunchable. Let's on the back end, so let's 785 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: talk seriously though lunchibles. I do think lugibles made me 786 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 1: like crackers and cheese and crackers more than I otherwise 787 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: would have. I still really love cheese and crackers, I 788 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,920 Speaker 1: think because lunchables, my brain like lit up every time 789 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: I got to eat. My parents didn't give me lunchables 790 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: and I was mad at them for that at the time. Yeah, 791 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't given them and I felt left out, But 792 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: also I think that led me to believe they're incredibly 793 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: expensive when I don't actually know that they are or not. 794 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: I just I was just like, why do the other 795 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 1: kids have that? But I had a lot of like 796 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 1: similar food, and I really liked ritz bits in a 797 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: similar cheese and crackers way where it was two tiny 798 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: ritzes and then like a cheesy spread in the middle, 799 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: which is probably lunchables essentially, and was great. It was 800 00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: really good powdered cheese twin two crackers. Yeah yeah, but 801 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: with quotes around it and you have to say it 802 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: real sarcastic and yeah, yeah, absolutely, I got whatever it 803 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: was on sale, so like, yeah, yeah, my mom was 804 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,919 Speaker 1: like here you go. What's on sale. It's on sale 805 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 1: in bulk. Yeah, I think the day that she got 806 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,360 Speaker 1: like a it used to be a different store, but 807 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 1: now I guess it's bought It got bought up by Costco. Right, 808 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 1: so price Club. Right, She's like, I have a membership. 809 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,799 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. What am I gonna do? Lunchables in bulk? Like, right, yeah, 810 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: don't ask me for nothing. I don't want you to 811 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: ask me for snacks, don't ask me for breakfast, don't 812 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: ask me for dinner. That's right. Yeah. And when I 813 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,240 Speaker 1: like read the story about the tremendous success of lunchables, 814 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: it was in a book that was at least partially 815 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,600 Speaker 1: about like the obesity epidemic and in the country, and 816 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: how these companies like it was basically the people who 817 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 1: manufactured the smoking like you know, got everybody addicted to cigarettes. 818 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: Like once those became less and less legal and more 819 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 1: and more regulated, they shifted their focus to food and 820 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: basically use the same approach to get people addicted to 821 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: their food and make money and drove the obesity epidemic. 822 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean they're still regulators, but they regulators 823 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: don't stand a chance with Kraft Hyns. They wouldn't stand 824 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: a chance with Kraft or Hims, let alone Kraft Hynes 825 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: now that they're one giant conglomerate, like you own everything. Yeah, well, Denise, 826 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: it's been such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. 827 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. 828 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: I am not a huge fan of Twitter, so you 829 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: can find me on Instagram. There you go at the 830 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 1: Vampdeville and on my website at the vampdeville dot com, 831 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: where you can find out what I'm up to and 832 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. It's pretty much the only place that 833 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm hanging out. There you go. I wish I was 834 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: more social media friend? Is there that I think that's 835 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: probably healthy? Yeah? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I'm in one 836 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: place that's it. Is there a work of media that 837 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. It's so funny. It was so hard 838 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,320 Speaker 1: for me too because I was like, I don't tweet, 839 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: so there was no tweets. But then what I saw 840 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: going around recently is the quote from Peggy noun In's 841 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 1: article in The Wall Street Journal about Ronda Santas where 842 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: she's like, he carries a vibe as I've said that 843 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 1: he might unplug your life support to recharge his cell phone. 844 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: It was like, I have never heard a human being 845 00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: described so elegant, eloquently, perfectly. Damn Peggy Bars fucking ethered him. 846 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,840 Speaker 1: It was great. It's everywhere, like especially interesting because she 847 00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: will eventually endorse him. That's all right, yeah, but it's okay, 848 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,800 Speaker 1: it's okay. His phone is charged, his phone will be charged. 849 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 1: Joe Biden would let my iPhone run out of battery 850 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:16,440 Speaker 1: or whatever? Yeah, that fast, you know, Alex? How about you? 851 00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,240 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Is their work of media? 852 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: You've been enjoying? I I've been enjoying watching TikTok's in general, 853 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: and especially a specific kind where people take their house 854 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 1: pet and then they play that old Mister Sandman song 855 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: under it, like bum bum bum bump bump bump bum. 856 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 1: But then you split up the frame and so then 857 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: it looks like a bunch of your cat. You like 858 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: lift it through like it's a synchronized swimmer in those 859 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: Buzzby Berkeley musicals. It's great. That's the main media I'm enjoying. 860 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: And if you go on TikTok, I hope the algorithm 861 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: gives you one, it's the best. Well, now, how are 862 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: none of those nominated for an Academy Award. There's so 863 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 1: many categories for shorts. How like they fu Yeah, that 864 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: sounds like art glories. I see what you did there? Okay, yeah, 865 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: there you go. I'm feline like they got ripped off 866 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: right boom and us boy? Why did I do that? 867 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,640 Speaker 1: Then transition into a plug. Folks, please check out my 868 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: podcasts more like that. I thought it was good. I 869 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,799 Speaker 1: didn't know that. I only knew what the categories thing 870 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 1: was referencing once you said that, So I did not 871 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: do mine on purpose. I'll tell you that much. But uh, 872 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 1: and folks, please check out Secretly Incredibly Fascinating. We're newly 873 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: on the Maximum Fund Network and newly with the wonderful 874 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: Katie Golden co hosting every week. There's other folks coming 875 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: through too, but the great Katie Golden of Creature Feature. 876 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: Of course, check out Creature Feature and just her Secretly 877 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: in your app to find Secretly Incredibly Fascinating. Such a 878 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 1: good show and now even better, two of the best 879 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,720 Speaker 1: in the biz. Yeah, yes, yeah, a tweet I've been enjoying. 880 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: I'm still riding free elon over here. At rsgat. Is 881 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: that what that means if I still go to I'm 882 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: just lazy, I don't and I have followers. It's the 883 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: only place I have followers allow me to continue to 884 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 1: lark on Twitter at rsgat tweeted everyone with student loan 885 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: debt right now and it's the it's the Willem Dafoe 886 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: still and he's saying, I'm I'm something of a failed 887 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: venture capital bank myself. I really enjoyed that. You can 888 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can 889 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the 890 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page 891 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,919 Speaker 1: and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post 892 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,080 Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to 893 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: the information that we talked about in today's episode, as 894 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: well as a song that we think you might enjoy. 895 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 1: Superproducer Justin has been absolutely killing it with the recommendations. 896 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: I believe that somebody created a playlist with some of his, 897 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: if if not most, of his song recommendations. If we 898 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: ever find that, yeah, I hope that's true. I'm gonna 899 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: look for it, but yeah, I think I saw it 900 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: in the discord. If you did that, reach out to 901 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: one of us on you know, Twitter, and let us 902 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: know and we will well, we'll share that link in 903 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: the footnotes. But Justin, what is the song that you 904 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: think people will be enjoying today. Well, considering the discussion 905 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: of psychedelics up top, I wanted to suggest this track. 906 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: Please forgive me if I suggested this song before. I 907 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: truly can't remember. Sometimes it just means it's extra good. 908 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: If you did, you should check it out again. Yeah, okay, anyway, 909 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of the Beatles, but I do 910 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: find myself liking the psychedelic rock that they inspired, and 911 00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 1: this track sounds like if they took a lot of 912 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: acid and scored a cosmic car chase sequence. Um, it's 913 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 1: a song called the fuzz Jam. This is a band 914 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 1: from Australia called The Lazy Eyes. They're very inventive. I 915 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: think their first album just came out last year, So yeah, 916 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: check them out. This is fuzz Jam by the Lazy 917 00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: Eyes and you can find that song in the foot notes. Also, 918 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: somebody needs to just create a poetry book of Justin's 919 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 1: descriptions of the songs that he recommends, because always so good, 920 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 1: so great. If the Beatles took a lot of acid 921 00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: and scored a cosmic car chase, I think, yeah, it's 922 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: the first thing that popped in my head. I feel 923 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: like people will agree with me. It's the only image 924 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: that came to my mind. It's it's right there. Yeah, 925 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, yep, that's it. Amazing. Well. The Daily Zeitgeist 926 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, 927 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen 928 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for 929 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 1: us this morning. But we are back this afternoon to 930 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: tell you what is trending and we will talk to 931 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 1: yell though. Bye bye