1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back like we never left. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Another edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast, Thursday, July 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: twenty second, The Year Old Lord twenty twenty one. You know, 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: six or seven months ago we started saying no off season. 5 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Wouldn't even say the word out loud, we will not 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: type it on Twitter or online. And it has occurred 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: to me that unwillingly, everyone else has had to get 8 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: on board with this because I want you guys to 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: think back, was it May, was it June July? So far? 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Have you felt any kind of down period? Have you 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: felt any kind of two week lull in the action? 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: There's stuff happening all over the place now, in case 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: you've been living in a cave, the biggest news potentially 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: in several years in college football has been unfolding over 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, and that is Oklahoma and 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: Texas possibly headed to the SEC. As you can imagine, 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I got inundated by request to talk about that, and 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to so give me a second. Let me 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: get us in here quick house keeping note. Our numbers 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: have gone up again. It was brought to my attention 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: we have entered the top ten in the not just 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: college football, but the football overall podcasting genre, and that 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: is across the entire planet of Earth, and I don't 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: know anything outside of there that can contend right now. 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: We'll see in the future. So thank you again. I mean, 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: we've rocketed this thing. And keep in mind, this podcast 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: product is only part of what we do. The YouTube 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: channel is really where most of the action is and 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: that's twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel. That's where 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Late Cack Live happens. Now you hear the replays of 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: that the day after, but there are also other features 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: over there. And my point is when I got to 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven the podcast as a product, as 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: a standalone product, it was sort of an afterthought. And 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: this is only a year and a half ago, guys. 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: It was sort of an afterthought. But I kept seeing 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the numbers rise and rise and rise, and I said, 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: you know what, Let's do a couple of things that 39 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: are unique to the podcast. I e. What we're doing 40 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: right now two times a week while we can the 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: mail bag, because that's the way I can talk to you, guys. 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: I can't do it on a forty five minute show 43 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: as easy, but I can do it right now. And 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: so that's what the mail bag was a result of 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: was us looking at saying, hey see these numbers. Well 46 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: since then, boy, they've exploded, and we're really really rising 47 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: fast and passing some names and some products out there 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: that I respect and I listen to and have been 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: in the game far longer than we have. And that's 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: certainly not a testament to me. I can promise you 51 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: that that's a testament to you, guys. So thank you 52 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: so much for that. All right, let's dive in here. 53 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Here's the deal with the Oklahoma Texas I got it 54 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: feels like billions of you in actuality, it's several thousand 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: of you that we're asking what do I think about this? 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Is this real? Is there smoke to this? What's this 57 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: going to do to college football? I will lead with 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: that on Late Cack Live tonight. Here are some initial 59 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: thoughts though, and then we're going to go in deep 60 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: detail tonight. It should be our most watched show easily. 61 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: That doesn't involve September through December content, if you know 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: what I mean. I do not think I'm crazy about it, 63 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: and it's not because of the competition on the field. 64 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: So the competition on the field, and this is the 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: different perspective that I think could come into play here. 66 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: There are several perspectives. If you just have the perspective, 67 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the blinder's perspective, as I call it, where you don't 68 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: focus on anything else. You don't focus on the landscape, 69 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: you don't focus on what's good for college football, you 70 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: don't focus on the bigger picture. You just think about 71 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: what it would be like to wake up on a 72 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Saturday morning and know, man, in five hours, or in 73 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: seven hours, or in nine hours, I'm going to see 74 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Alabama tee it up in Norman, Oklahoma against the Sooners 75 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: top ten matchup. It's going to be great historic brands, 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: story traditions, and great teams in the here and now. 77 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: That is a wonderful concept. It is awesome to think 78 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: about Texas going into Sandford Stadium and playing Georgia on 79 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: a Saturday afternoon in the fall. That's awesome. I'm not 80 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: taking that away from anyone. I agree with you, that's awesome. 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Here's what I want to ask. This is where it 82 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of backing away from the table 83 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and maybe a taking off those blinders that we all 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: wear as college football fans. I do it just like 85 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: you guys, what if you take those blinders off for 86 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: two seconds and ask yourself that age old question. Is 87 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: it what's best for college football? Now? Some of you 88 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: may say no, But I don't care what's best for 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: college football. I care what's best for my team and 90 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: the conference we reside in. Now that may be where 91 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: we different I've never felt that way. I want what's 92 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: best for college football as long as what's best for 93 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: college football in some shape, form or fashion benefits everyone 94 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: at the table. There is a thing going on right now. 95 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: There's a monumental shift. I think it's obvious, but I 96 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: think some people are looking at the individual parts as 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: opposed to the sum of the moving parts. All these 98 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: moving parts really center around one thing, and that is 99 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: the destabilization of the amateurism model, which is a fancy 100 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: kind of bow tie at a podium where everyone paid 101 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars for a dinner, way of saying what 102 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: we once call college football maybe leaving, and if it leaves, 103 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it ain't coming back. Some of you celebrate that. I 104 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: don't think that you should. If you're a fan, you 105 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: need to be very careful. I think there's a tendency 106 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: sometimes to cheer just cause change happens because you believe 107 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: if I'm not totally happy with the status quo, if 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm not perfectly happy with the status quo, then that 109 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: means it's time to change. Any of you who have 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: ever dated someone and they just didn't check the box 111 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: perfect tens across the board, maybe you've had that thought 112 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: come into your mind. What if I were to date 113 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: fill in the blank, what if I were to date 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: that person? And there is an initial snap, there's an 115 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: initial surge of excitement because you think about the possibility. 116 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: And since everything's not perfect in my current state, I 117 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: don't ever consider how it could get worse. I only 118 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: consider how it could get better. And I can tell 119 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: you right now we are not dating a three with 120 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: college football. We've been dating an eight or an eight 121 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: and a half with college football. And I don't want 122 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: to be as crude as you just put everybody on 123 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: the numeric one to ten scale. But since we all 124 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: do it anyway, we just lie about it if we 125 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: say we don't. I'm doing it right now, and I'm 126 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: telling you there are a lot of alternative scenarios out there. 127 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Very few of them improve on the product we've had 128 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: with college football. In fact, I would call it like 129 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: a nine or a nine and a half. Very few improved. 130 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: So all the beef we've ever had with this sport, 131 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: and I've had it, just like you, not view this 132 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: as a perfect product. I don't think it can be perfect. 133 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: I don't think that exists. But I want to tease 134 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: this for tonight because I'm gonna tell you exactly what 135 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: I think tonight. And if you just listen to the 136 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: podcast product, you will get this tomorrow morning. But I 137 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: would encourage you check out the live show tonight. You 138 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: can also watch it as a replay whenever you want. 139 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: But we aired at eight eastern, seventh Central on the 140 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel promotion. And so 141 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: I want you to answer this question, and I'm gonna 142 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: answer it for myself later tonight. What is the ten 143 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: year result of Texas and Oklahoma if they do join 144 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the SEC, Let's just say, in the next few years. 145 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: If that happens, what are the ramifications? What are those 146 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: subsequent dominoes that fall? In other words, I really do 147 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: not think in retrospect, you guys are going to enjoy 148 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: what that looks like. If you even are an SEC fan, 149 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: but you're a college football fan, I'm not so sure 150 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna like it. I'll just I'll leave you with this, 151 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: because I got a loaded mail bag this morning. I'll 152 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: leave you with this. There is a thing that has 153 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: existed in college football for a long long time that 154 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: has made it unlike the business world or the jungle. 155 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Even in the jungle, it is just survival of the fittest. 156 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's really how everything started. And then as 157 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: civil society emerges, a civil society looks around and says, well, 158 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: if we just operate based on the laws of the jungles, 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: only the pythons and tigers are going to survive. So 160 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: what do we do? Well, in order to advance a 161 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: civil society, we have to have some checks and balances 162 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: and some regulation put in place. You know, you can't 163 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: go chop off someone's arm if you get hungry, you 164 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: know that kind of regulation, which I think is a 165 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: law in most states right now. We have to have something. 166 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: We have to have some kind of checks and balance. Well, 167 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: in society, we have all kinds of different financial and 168 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: social checks and balances, but in sports, in college football, 169 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: especially in college football, what we've had is amateurism, which 170 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people scoffed at because a lot of 171 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: people have always looked, I have to I understand where 172 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: this comes from. And you've looked and you've said amateurism. 173 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah right. No one believes those kids are going to 174 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Alabama or Oklahoma State or Oregon for or the academic 175 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: prowess of those institutions. They're going there because they're a 176 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: four star outside linebacker. They're going there so they could 177 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: play football. They wouldn't be there football didn't exist. I 178 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: will grant you all that. Most of the time you 179 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: can't broad brush things. But most of the time, yes, 180 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that's accurate. But why was it and is it so 181 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: important for that model of amateurism to still be the 182 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: backdrop in front of which we play this sport. Well, 183 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: it's because amateurism is the check, It is the regulator, 184 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: it is the balance. And once you do away with it, 185 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: which rapidly is what Nil, the Transfer Portal and the 186 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: like is doing, you're left with a scary thought, and 187 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: that thought is, well, we just turned college football into 188 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: everyday society without amateurism. If we're treating this as no 189 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,479 Speaker 1: different than pro sports, that means everything's commoditized. A program 190 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: is no different than a franchise. A player is no 191 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: different than a commodity that can be not traded but 192 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: has a monetary value placed on him. There is no 193 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: illusion as to what is at the core of this, 194 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and that is money. You can argue it always was, 195 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: but we always maintain the veil. It was thin, but 196 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: the veil of academics and the veil of education being 197 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: at the core, and the cruts of everything. If you 198 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: take all that away, you fully commoditize college football. And 199 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: if you fully commoditize college football, it is no different 200 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: than the world that you and I live in right now. 201 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: And if you'll look around, notice that the world you 202 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: and I live in is being gobbled up by Disney 203 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: or by Amazon and ge pick the global conglomerate. You 204 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: want to put in point is that practice is on 205 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the table in college athletics once you take away the 206 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: college aspect, once you take away the amateurism model. And 207 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: the problem is, once you open the coffers to the dam, 208 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: there are far more entities downstream that can't swim than 209 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: the ones who can. There are not many sharks down 210 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: there right now. We have been able to regulate the 211 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: flow to where a lot of and a lot of 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: minnows can exist in conjunction with the sharks, and maybe 213 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: occasionally the sharks eat some of the mennos, But by 214 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: and large, it is an environment that is conducive to 215 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: a habitat that suits a multitude of different species. I e. 216 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Akron and Alabama existing in the same world. That cannot 217 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: happen once you open the dam. The natural counter to 218 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: that would be, well, Josh, Akron and Alabama have never 219 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: existed in the same sport. We've only pretended they have. Well, 220 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: you're right competitively, You're certainly right about that, And I've 221 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: said that many times myself. I mentioned those two universities 222 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: specifically because of alliteration. Say, hey, let's not pretend Akron 223 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: and Alabama play the same sport. You know what I 224 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: mean When I say that, I'm mainly talking about strength 225 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: of schedule in college football. But just know this, the 226 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: bottom of the totempole always exists. When you chop off 227 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: the bottom quarter of the totem pole, guess what the 228 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: new bottom of the totem pole is. The new bottom 229 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: of the totem pole was previously the inner half of 230 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: the totem pole, and so I know maybe we have 231 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: a Virginia Tech fan out there who's listening is saying, oh, 232 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: forget Akron, screw Akron, brother, you may be the next 233 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: Achron if you allow things to continue down this road. 234 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: And when I say allow, I'm not even sure that's 235 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: the right term now, because I don't know that we 236 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: can stop it. The amateurism model is on fire. It's 237 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: not going to be put out, so it's kind of 238 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: going by the wayside. Someone's got to answer. That's what 239 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with. Someone's got to answer. The 240 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: Big ten is who I'm looking at. Someone's got to answer. 241 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: I also want to reiterate this is not finalized, and 242 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: so the PAC twelve. If you want to make a move, 243 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: you can make a move. Big ten, acc if you 244 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: want to make a move, you can make a move. 245 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can match whatever the SEC 246 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: has to offer, but there's still time to make a move, 247 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: or there's still time to make counter moves. Anyway, we'll 248 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: have a lot more on that tonight. Here is the 249 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: status of the mailbag. It is so loaded this would 250 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: not be able to be completed in three shows. I'm 251 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: gonna get through as many of these as I can 252 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: in a timely manner, and I'm gonna get this out 253 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: to you. Then I got to go do a live 254 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: show tonight, but I want to hit as many questions 255 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: as possible, So it's going to be as rapid fire 256 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: as we've ever made. This fase starts us off. What's 257 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: the formula for a team like an Arkansas or a 258 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: West Virginia teams outside the traditionally fertile recruiting ground to 259 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: make a conference championship run if at all possible for 260 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: those teams. Now, let's consider who we're talking about here. 261 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: For West Virginia to make it, I think it's a 262 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: lot more doable. Number One, wuldcause the conference they're in, 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, is just taking the top two teams. 264 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Iowa State was in the conference title game last year, 265 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: for example. Now, they were the second best team in 266 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: the conference anyway, but they also exist in a system 267 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: to where they don't get knocked out because they happen 268 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: to reside in a division where the best team in 269 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: the conference resides. For Arkansas, that's a different story. Arkansas's 270 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: in the same division as Alabama. Well, at least for 271 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: now they are, And so Arkansas goes into every season 272 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: forget getting to Atlanta. You're just asking to get past Alabama. 273 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: How do you do that? Well, the way they would 274 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: do that is not totally up to them. First, they 275 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: would need Alabama to be down or either suffer from injury, 276 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: not that they wish it, but they would have to 277 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: have something that knocks Alabama off the rails a little bit. 278 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: But then what Arkansas probably would have to have done 279 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: is either recruit the right quarterback and get two or 280 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: three years into development where they build towards one of 281 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: those what I call pop years, and you kind of 282 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: work your entire roster around building to a pop year. 283 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Mark D'Antonio used to do it very well at Michigan State. 284 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Gary Patterson's done at a time or three at TCU. 285 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: That's the first thing. But the second thing you could 286 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: do is you could go the Wisconsin route. Back when 287 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson all of a sudden magically appeared in Madison 288 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: by way of NC State. And I'm not saying it 289 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: has to be that dramatic, but what I'm saying is Arkansas, 290 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: let's just say they land the right transfer quarterback. They 291 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: were kind of on the right path last year. Felipe 292 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: Franks is an example of how that would happen. You 293 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: would probably need a higher caliber quarterback than Franks, although 294 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: I thought he played well last year. But you'd have 295 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: to have that happen. You would have to win several 296 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: one possession games. You would have to be a bob team, 297 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: a bounce off ball team. And if you had all 298 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: that happen in the same year, where something happens to 299 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: Alabama and that something isn't twenty nineteen lsu A. If 300 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: something were to happen to Bama and the rest of 301 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the division was winnable, you probably clip A and m 302 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: early in the year. That's probably how it would have 303 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: to happen for Arkansas. It's a long shot, but it's 304 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: not impossible. Leon up next with Nick Saban stating that 305 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Bryce Young has nil deals approaching seven figures. Can you 306 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: see a bit of resentment or jealousy between team members 307 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: causing a locker room divide? And not if you're smart. 308 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: So let me touch on two aspects here. The first one, Leon, 309 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: I've already touched on, and that is the kind of 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: widely held notion that nil is going to rip apart 311 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: locker rooms, cause some players are going to make more 312 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: than other players, and there's going to be jealousy, and 313 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: you know there's going to be infighting. Well, that's going 314 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: to happen somewhere. It's going to happen in a lot 315 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: of places. That doesn't make NIL bad. Well, that's not 316 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: the reason. If you believe NIL is bad, that shouldn't 317 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: be the reason you think it's bad. And that's because 318 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: that is endemic of a poor culture. And in those 319 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: poor culture organizations, ten other things were going to rip 320 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: it apart if NIL didn't. What I'm looking at is 321 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking at good culture, and I do not think 322 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: this is going to negatively impact good culture. So here's 323 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: how you think in a bad culturally on this will 324 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: get to my second point. Let's say we're in a 325 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: bad culture environment. We are just we're poorly led. There's 326 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: no vision. There's a lot of selfishness here already. And 327 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: if I'm the right guard and you're the quarterback and 328 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: you're let's say, making high six figures and I'm making 329 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks to appear on the back of a 330 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Burger king GEFT certificate, then yeah, I look at you 331 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: and I resent you, and I cannot stand that you're 332 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: making more money. I'm thinking, hey, you couldn't do anything 333 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: if I didn't block for you. Well, that's the kind 334 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: of mentality I would have now if I'm in a 335 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: good culture, which means my mind has been wired the 336 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: right way, I would look at you and I would say, 337 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: first off, it's a pleasure to play with someone who 338 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: has that kind of value and has built that kind 339 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: of value for himself. I'm a realist. I understand in 340 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: this sport of football, never will an offensive lineman carry 341 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: more value than a quarterback. But here's what I do realize. 342 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Much like a wrestler who existed in the mid eighties 343 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: with Hulk Hogan on the card, all those guys benefited 344 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: because of Hulk Hogan, because Hogan sold out buildings. And 345 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: if you're making money based off the card that night 346 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: and based off the house that night, no matter where 347 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: you are on that card, you're making more money cause 348 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: of high tide or raises all boats. And so I'd 349 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: look likewise at my quarterback and I'd say, let me 350 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: block my tail off for you, let me run block, 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: let me protect you. Because the more I do that, 352 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: and the more you shine. Not only do we win more, 353 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: but I also, therefore, being associated with the brand that's 354 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: on the side of this helmet and on the front 355 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: of my chest, I carry more value. All of a sudden, 356 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: Burger King's paying me seventy five bucks instead of twenty 357 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: five bucks. Now, that is the proper way to look 358 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: at it. Leon. The bottom line is, I don't think 359 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: that this nil deal is going to fracture any locker 360 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: room that had a strong culture before it, and I 361 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: think it'll just be one of many potential things that 362 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: would have eventually fractured poor locker rooms. It'll probably just 363 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: expedite that process, so it goes a little bit faster. 364 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: We move on here. A lot of these were submitted 365 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: through the Twitter inbox this week at Late Kick Josh. 366 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: I remind you I at least read every single one 367 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: of them. I respond to about ninety percent of you. 368 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: I know, last night we had a tidal wave of 369 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: dms come in. But I'm happy. I mean, this is 370 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: what they pay me for. You don't imagine this. I 371 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: was thinking about this this morning. I woke up and 372 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: I had a nervous energy when I woke up because, 373 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: as you know, anytime there's big breaking news in college football, 374 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: the news cycle doesn't stop. So you go to bed 375 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: at one am, like I do. You wake up about 376 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: six six thirty like I did this morning, and yet 377 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: you still nervously check your phone and you wonder, man, 378 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: did I miss anything. I don't want to have missed anything. 379 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: But then I realized two things. Number One, you guys 380 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: know where to find me and when to find me. 381 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: And so no matter if anything happened, we're going to 382 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: talk about it when we talk about it, which is 383 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: every Tuesday and Thursday a little bit after lunch and 384 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday and Thursday soon to be Sunday, Tuesday and 385 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Thursday night at eight eastern, seventh Central. And it's a 386 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: very very good relationship that we have because I don't 387 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: have to be posting random videos the second someone or 388 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: something thing happens if someone says something. So I appreciate that. 389 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: But I also woke up this morning and then that 390 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: nervous energy was alleviated, and I thought about the fact that, 391 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, what a 392 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: world we live in where instead of going to my 393 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: normal job, which I would have done once upon a time, 394 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: all this stuff I care about in the college football 395 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: world would have been happening, and I would have tried 396 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: to be paying attention to it. But then I would 397 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: have had to drive to a job I don't really 398 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: care about and put it on the back burner and 399 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: then find out at five oh five pm in the 400 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: afternoon if anything changed. Hey, it's a crazy world when 401 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: they'll pay you to pay attention to this stuff all day. 402 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: I am man, I appreciate that. When I thank you 403 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: so much, which is not fake, it's totally genuine. Part 404 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: of the reason I'm thinking you is because you have 405 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: allowed me to do this stuff all day and pay 406 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: attention to the stuff all day that I used to 407 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: pay attention to as a hobby and sometimes get in 408 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: trouble at work or in school for paying attention to 409 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: more than school or work. And so to get real 410 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: on you for a second, and I won't be real 411 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: too long because oh it makes me uncomfortable, But to 412 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: be perfectly honest with you, that's why we we don't 413 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: take time off. That's why we don't really take vacation. 414 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: And if I am going to take a week's vacation, 415 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: I pre record this stuff for you because I know 416 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of you because you tell me every week 417 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: you are currently in that kind of situation you don't 418 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: necessarily love, where you have to go to work every 419 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: day and you use this product to get you through 420 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: at least a portion of your day. Now, some of 421 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: you are in more dire situations that life has dealt 422 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you even than just mediocre job. But whatever the case is, 423 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: the fact that you use this to supplement part of 424 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: your day in any shape, form or fashion means all 425 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: the world to me. And it's why we make sure 426 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: we got this thing coming out and these products coming 427 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: out every week, and it's why we're about to even 428 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: up the capacity. Because I didn't come out of some 429 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: journalism school and go straight into interning for a major 430 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: news organization and to work my way up and have 431 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: never lived in the real world. I was out there. 432 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: I was doing the same stuff. I was going to 433 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: jobs I didn't want to go to. And I know 434 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: what got me through all day is sports talk radio. 435 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: And at the time, if I would have had podcasts, 436 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: that's what I would have leaned on. So I do 437 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: this everywhere that comes out of my mouth knowing it's 438 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: going to tens of thousands of years that fit that description, 439 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: So we get it. I just wanted to let you 440 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: know we get it, and I appreciate that because of you, 441 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: we get the opportunity to now do this for a living. 442 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: All right, now, let me return to our normally scheduled 443 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: program here. I do like to be as open as 444 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I can with you guys, though. All right, David is 445 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: up next. David said, you often mentioned that you think 446 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: the Auburn head coaching job is the toughest in America, 447 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: and I think you're right for many of the same reasons. 448 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel that Auburn is also the toughest place 449 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: to be a fan? I think it may be. What 450 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: criteria do you think justify as a fan saying they 451 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: have it hard? And what other schools would you say 452 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: have put their fans through the ringer? As of late? David, 453 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: while I do reiterate what you said, I believe Auburn 454 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: is the hardest job to have in America. Now, when 455 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: I say hardest job, as I've caveat in many times before, 456 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: but I'll do it one more time, I don't literally 457 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: mean it's the hardest place to win. I mean it's 458 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the hardest job to have. When you consider how hard 459 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: it is to win relative to the expectation. It's a 460 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: tougher task Bowling Green than it is at Auburn. But 461 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: then again, the expectation level at Bowling Green is non 462 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: existent relative to what it is at Auburn. And even 463 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: when you factor in the more money you make at Auburn, 464 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't change how hard it gets. And so for 465 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: reasons tied to that, you know, you got to go 466 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: against Alabama A and m LSU Georgia every year. Those 467 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: are top seven recruiters every year. That is a third 468 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: of your schedule every year. That's tough. No one else 469 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: deals with that. That's tough. Having said that, though, I 470 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 1: do not think the Auburn fan experience is nearly the 471 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: toughest in America. I don't even think it's the toughest 472 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: in the SEC. I don't think it's the toughest in 473 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: the SEC West. Let's be real now, I mean Auburn's 474 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: got a shot. Auburn has played in two national championship 475 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: games in the last decade. They won one of them. 476 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: They were thirteen seconds away from winning another one. They 477 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: won the SEC championship in twenty ten twenty thirteen. They 478 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: played for one in seventeen. They've done some things. I mean, 479 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't been a bet of roses, But think about 480 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: what it should be. Life in the midst of the 481 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: Nick Saban dynasty, in the same state as Nick Saban 482 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: should be a wasteland. Auburn should look like Tennessee has 483 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: looked over the past decade. That's what Auburn should look like. 484 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: And instead, somehow they've managed to scratch together and not 485 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: only some winning seasons, but they've won a title, they've 486 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: played for another one, they've won some conference titles. I 487 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: think that's really good. There's a really good game day 488 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: experience there. It's not perfect now, and the closer you 489 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: get to the Auburn program, even as we speak, you 490 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of the frustration that's going on internally 491 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: there in the athletic department. But I certainly think it 492 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: could be far worse. So I do believe that Auburn 493 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: rises to the occasion plenty enough David to where I 494 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: would not call that the toughest fan experience, and especially 495 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: in the SEC. I mean, ask Vanderbilt if they'd want 496 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: to trade places with you. Ask South Carolina as of 497 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: late if they'd want to trade places with you. Ask 498 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: Kentucky in a football sense, if they'd want to trade 499 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: places with you, diddo for Missouri. Yeah, I think you 500 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of yeses. So no, I wouldn't go 501 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: that for David. I would just go halfway that far, 502 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: all right, chugging right along here. Told you it was 503 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: going to be rapid fire. I think I'm meant four 504 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: trillion words spoken in this podcast so far. I've always 505 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: told you, guys, I love testimonials. I love hearing where 506 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: you listen, when you listen, how you listen, all that, 507 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: we got a really good testimonial coming up, and then 508 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: also really good series of questions when we come back. 509 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: So I promised you a good testimonial. Here's what one 510 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: sounds like. This is from Mark. He follows it up 511 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: with a question. Mark said, Hey, Josh, you keep saying 512 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: you want to know where we listen. Well, I was 513 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: on a seven week cross country road trip with the 514 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: wife this summer, living out of our Honda CRV and 515 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: hitting up lots of cities and parks. Now, my wife 516 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have a license. I did one hundred percent of 517 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the driving. And if it wasn't for all the frequent 518 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: and quality late kit content to keep me awake on 519 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: the long drives. I'm not sure we would have made it. 520 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: Do you hear that? People we have saved lives this summer, 521 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: according to Mark, Mark's words, not mine. All right, Mark continues, 522 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: he said, so thanks for the great podcast. Also, my wife, 523 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: who cares nothing about sports, actually enjoys listening to, especially 524 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: the story about when you learned what espresso is. Thank 525 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: you Mark's wife. Now, I'm not going to revisit that story. 526 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: It's a dark part of my life, something I've tried 527 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: to put behind me. But I do appreciate it. And 528 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I told you our female demographic is growing, even the 529 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: ones who don't care about sports, but especially the ones 530 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: that do care about sports. In college football, I see 531 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: that number. We get very detailed analytics sent to us. 532 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: I see that female listener number rising and rising and rising. 533 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: I think it's causing my charm, but it could because 534 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: of sports. All right, let's continue. Mark said, Let's say 535 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: that during the first year of the expanded playoff, three 536 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: SEC teams make the semi finals. I laugh because I 537 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: know what the reaction would be. All Right, Mark continues, 538 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be unrealistic, he says, not 539 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: to mention the stars aligning for maybe even another SEC 540 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: program that year. So what do you think the response 541 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: would be from the media, fans and people in other conferences. Well, 542 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna happen eventually. What we're talking 543 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: about here, to be clear, is when they expand this 544 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: thing to twelve and there are six at large spots, 545 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: you cannot help that. There are going to be multiple 546 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: SEC teams get into this thing. And that's before you 547 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: expand it to include potentially the likes of Oklahoma or Texas. 548 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: Let's just say the SEC as it is right now 549 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: any given year. Of course, you got Bama in there 550 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: every year. I don't know how they'd miss out at 551 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: this point, you got the Georgia's in there every year. 552 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: A and m's gonna fo A and m's not going anywhere. 553 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: You may keep A and M out of the playoffs, 554 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: you're not keeping them out of the top twelve. You're 555 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: not keeping LSU out of the top twelve most years 556 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: last year notwithstanding, of course, and then you don't even 557 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: factor in the likes of Florida. Florida is going to 558 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: be around every year. Guys, your best shot I don't 559 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: think many of you don't believe me when I say this. 560 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: Your best shot at keeping the SEC from ruling this 561 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: world is as small a playoff as possible. But I 562 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: know some lessons are going to have to be learned 563 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: the hard way out there. So I get it. We've 564 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: we've all spoken our piece on that mark. The reaction 565 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: would be that of revolt, but I don't know what 566 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: they would do about it, because no one is signing 567 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: off on this from the SEC without the requirement for 568 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: an equal number of at large spots to guaranteed spots. 569 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: Meaning if you have six guaranteed spots for conference Champs, 570 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: which the current proposal floating out there has, then Greg 571 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: Sankie said, all right, we got to have six at 572 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: large spots because we're certainly not going to see here 573 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,239 Speaker 1: and be boxed out. We're not going to sign off 574 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: on that, and you need our signature for this thing, 575 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: and so market would be well, it would be that 576 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: of disgust. That's what the reaction would be. I don't 577 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: see any way around it, but that's what the reaction 578 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: would be. One reminder, right quick, as we roll on here, 579 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: I have so many questions this morning that I cannot 580 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: stack them all in. Normally I'm able to get through 581 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: all of them. I'm just telling you some of them 582 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: I cannot fit in right now. I apologize. If I can't, 583 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: I will try and get to them in the future. 584 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: But also if I didn't get yours in today, No 585 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: hard feelings. Now, let me stop wasting time where I 586 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: could have put another question in, And let's put another 587 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: question in. Benjamin said, as a Georgia fan, I personally 588 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: struggle with what the definition of a rivalry game even is. 589 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: Out of the nine opponents Georgia plays perennially, I can 590 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: count five that are considered rivals. In addition, there are 591 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: two programs Georgia doesn't play every year that I believe 592 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: some fans consider to be rivals. So my question is this, 593 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: in your opinion, out of this list, what is a 594 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: rivalry for Georgia. Now, let's just go ahead and list him. 595 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: Benjamin listed the following He put Auburn, Florida, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, 596 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Clemson, and Alabama. I would draw a line, 597 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's pretty clear, Benjamin. I would draw a line 598 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: for one side being Georgia fans and no other opinion 599 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: matters over there, besides that of red and black. And 600 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: then on the other side, I would put the college 601 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: football public, as we like to call it, all caps, 602 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: by the way, and what do they think? There is 603 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: some across the board agreement here. When the college football public, 604 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: here's Florida Georgia, they say, yes, that's a rivalry. Obviously 605 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Georgia fans view that as a rivalry. I would think 606 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Auburn Georgia, vast majority of fans on both sides they 607 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: would agree that's a rivalry. Georgia Tech Georgia. Here's where 608 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: it gets interesting. Georgia Tech Georgia. The fan base considers 609 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: it a rivalry. The nation does not really consider it 610 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: a rivalry off the top of their head. But then 611 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: when you say, oh, but what about geography, they just assume, oh, 612 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: it must be a rivalry down there. But really, nationally, 613 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't carry a whole lot of significance. Tennessee Georgia 614 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: nationally is not considered a rivalry regionally and especially in 615 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: the fan base. Yes, I would say they do consider 616 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: it a rivalry lopsided recently albeit but yes, still a rivalry. 617 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: South Carolina matters more to the game Cocks than the Dogs. 618 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: I would say nationally, certainly, that's not considered a rivalry. 619 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: That's just a division game. I don't think Georgia fans 620 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: really consider that a rivalry. They're fifty two and nineteen 621 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: and two all time against South Carolina. That's one where 622 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: I think it matters more to South Carolina. There's nothing 623 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: wrong with that, but I think it matters more to 624 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: the Game Cocks Clemson. This it depends on age. There 625 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: are some older national fans that perfectly understand how important 626 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: that game used to be. Clemson Georgia, I know they 627 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: play this year. They used to be big time rivals. Guys, 628 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: they have played sixty four times. Georgia leads that thing 629 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: forty two to eighteen. By the way, forty two, eighteen 630 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: and four. I think even some older Georgia fans would 631 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: consider that a rivalry. I don't know how we constitute older, 632 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: because you could be twenty five years old, but if 633 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you've studied the history of Georgia football, you probably understand 634 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: that's rivalry. Now Alabama's listed here too, I do not 635 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: think that the nation, it's very different. I don't know 636 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: how we define rivalry here. Those are the two most 637 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: important programs in the conference right now, East and West, 638 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: and those are the two that you've seen in some 639 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: classic battles the last few years. And so it's a 640 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: big rivalry and kind of the same way that for 641 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: a little while Colts Patriots became a rivalry in the AFC, 642 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: but it wasn't a traditional go back and talk to 643 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: your grandpa about what these games used to be kind 644 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: of rivalries. It's just a modern day competitive rivalry. Let's 645 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: say now they've played like Bama and Georgia have played 646 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot seventy I think seventy meetings all time, a 647 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: lot of which is of course a product of just 648 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: being in the same conference for a long time. I 649 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: don't think this is viewed in a classical sense of 650 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: being a rivalry. However, I think in the modern day, 651 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: if you use sort of a new age definition of 652 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: what rivalry is, yes, I think Georgia fans and the 653 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: nation would consider that a rivalry. I'll give you a 654 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: little thing to end on here. I think far more 655 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: people nationally would classify Georgia Alabama as a rivalry right 656 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: now than would Georgia Tennessee. Even though Georgia Tennessee in 657 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: a classical definition has more rivalry painted across it. Okay, 658 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: let me remind you we've got a lot going on, guys, 659 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: I mean a lot going on. I probably won't have 660 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: a voice after tonight. Make sure you're checking out Late 661 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Kick Live tonight, eight eastern, seventh Central on the twenty 662 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: four to seven Sports YouTube channel. And another thing, you 663 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: are going to absolutely love what you find on my 664 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: Instagram page during the season at late kick Josh Twitter two. 665 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 1: But there is a specific thing we'll be doing on 666 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: Instagram that I don't do anywhere else. You won't find 667 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: it on YouTube. 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I got 682 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: to package this recording up, get it sent off to 683 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: producer Jordan, and I got to go and get ready 684 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: for tonight's show. Thank you so much. Have a great 685 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: rest of your day, early start at the weekend, and 686 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: God bless