1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Paul Calbeci joins me. 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy against Brett Rippet. That's what we're going to 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: get on Sunday, the battle of the backup quarterbacks. It's 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: also a battle of two teams who have struggled mightily 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: this season, a season in which there were high expectations. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six twenty five, and it 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. Hitting the backfield 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: and Downey goes for a loss. JJ Watt Nailed It. 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hunday, proud partner of 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Acy 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com, Slash podcasts. He's at the ten half 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: of five peas in again so for Harry Magic. WHOA, 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: here's Craig Grielou. Far from the marquee matchup here in 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: week fifteen, but is the matchup that we have before 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: as Paul, and that is the four and nine Arizona 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals at the three and ten Denver Broncos, two teams 17 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: that desperately need a win and two teams if you 18 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: go back to all of the narratives in the offseason 19 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: and training camp expected opposite records. Really nine and four 20 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: and ten and three, especially if you look at the Broncos. Yeah, 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to go back to August, 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: this that really is right. December is the new August 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: right now, because based on where you are in the 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: playoff race on the outside looking in. It's sort of 25 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: back to our theme during the preseason games, right the 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: games might not count, but they matter, And that's sort 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: of where both teams are right now considering everything. And yeah, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is why every single year, agree there 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: are at least four new playoff teams. That's why almost 30 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: fifty percent of the playoff field changes out year to year. 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: That is life in the NFL. It is inherently unpredictable. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Nobody ever would have thought that sort of seasons were 33 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: awaiting the Cardinals and the Broncos, not after the Broncos 34 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: went all in and traded for Russell Wilson and paid 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: him two hundred forty five million dollars. Right now, the 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: Broncos are picking number two, except one problem, it's not 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: their pick. It belongs to the Seattle Seahawks. It has 38 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: not gone well for the Broncos has not gone well 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And to add all of this up, 40 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: we are going to get the Battle of the backups 41 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: on Sunday at a power field at mile high two 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: h five is the kickoff nine thirty Pregame coverage begins 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. You have Cult McCoy 44 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: and Brett Rippon as your qb ones for the respective teams. 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Although I'll say this, and I'll give the Denver Broncos 46 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: credit because on Friday Headcusch Nathaniel Hackett said, yes, Russell 47 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: Wilson did clear concussion protocol, but quote, as an organization, 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: we've decided to give him another week end. Quote. It 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: did add that Wilson was not happy with the organization's decision. 50 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: But Paul, to me, it would have been irresponsible to 51 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: have Wilson on the field on Sunday. Just the optics 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: of him taking that big hit near the goal line 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: where he took off, he tucked it and ran it 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it looked like he 55 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: was unconscious for a few moments. Just the visuals, the 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: tight shot from the TV cameras. I agree. You know, 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: what sort of message are you sending if he's back 58 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: in now, he could be perfectly fine to play. But look, 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: especially considering the situation, hit zoom out and what's more 60 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: important at this point a meaningless game outside the playoff 61 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: chase for the Denver Broncos, or the health the health 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: of any player, much less your franchise quarterback and the 63 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: guy you're still going to build around for seasons to come. 64 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: They really have no choice. It's not like they can 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: part ways with Russell Wilson, who has underwhelmed this year 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: in so many different ways that Broncos fans have been 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: booing the Broncos at home. There's a lot of disdain 68 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: for the trade and obviously what the offense looks like 69 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: in most figure there will be changed in the off 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: season for Denver. But you know, this is something you 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: just don't mess around with. Not in twenty twenty two. 72 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Too much is known, too much has already been discussed 73 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: with the nfl PA. So I'm with you. You know, 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 1: in some ways he passed great good news for Russell, 75 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: but you're going to make sure that you know what 76 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: you double the weight time just in case air on 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: the side of caution. So again a tip of the 78 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: cap to the Broncos for their decisions. So again you're 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: gonna have Brett Rippon making his third career start against Culte. 80 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: McCoy will be making his third start this season for 81 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. And when you just look at the resumes 82 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: between these two quarterbacks and what we know and don't know, 83 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: there is much more known with Coulte McCoy than there 84 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: is with Brett Rippon, especially when you consider what happened 85 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: earlier this season beating the Rams, losing to the forty 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: nine ers in Mexico City. But I am confident, and 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: that's why I I think it's so important to have 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: a quality backup, quotterback. You hope to never see them, 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: but if you do need one for what three four 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: in the case now much more than that, he's gonna 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: end up playing the last four games of this season 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: six overall. But you want someone who was capable of 93 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: handling the offense, and we've seen Paul Cole McCoy can 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: handle this Cardinals offense. You go around the locker room 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: like I know you do, and guys will tell you, 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: look in twelve we trust they totally believe in a 97 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Cole McCoy who really is a player coach in so 98 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: many different ways, and not just his position or the offense. 99 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: He's always helping guys out. Antonio Hamilton told a great 100 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: story in The Big Red Rage recently of how Cole 101 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: McCoy identified something that hamm was getting beat on consistently, 102 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: and then other teams were targeting him on they saw 103 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: something in his technique and Hamilton was able to remedy that, 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: and so it was a great benefit. Cliff Kingsbury has 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: talked up Cole McCoy. Fact he said only half jokingly 106 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: earlier this week that colts someone who could step in 107 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: and take his job tomorrow. That's how knowledgeable he is 108 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: about the NFL. And if you go in recent Cardinal's history, 109 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: if you look at a Kurt Warner and at Carson Palmer, 110 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: their job description went so far beyond just playing quarterback 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: on game day. They were instrumental and integral to the 112 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: game planning process. That's quote McCoy, game plan doesn't go in, 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: Coult weighs in. That's the way it works. And then 114 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: just the ability to direct things to practice. Carson Palmer, 115 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: once a hunt of time, used to run the Friday 116 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: practice himself. It was basically a walkthrough for Bruce Arons 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: and BA would just outsource it Carson Palmer. He was 118 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: the voice that was running that whole practice, at least 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: on the offensive side. So that's cool. McCoy. When you 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: watch practice, he is that guy. So you know he's 121 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: gonna be decisive, He's gonna know where to go with 122 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: the ball. You can't do very much to confuse him. 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown said as much. And guys will tell you 124 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: there's not much in New England tried. They really tried 125 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: on Monday night. There was nothing that he saw a 126 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: post snap that he was seeing pre snap. New England 127 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: kept changing things up their difference. As we've discussed, Craig, 128 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: is that guess what that was a Kyler Murray game plan. 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: Now three plays into the game, Culte McCoy comes in 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 1: the differences this week. You'll have a full week of reps. 131 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a Culte McCoy specific game plan as 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: to what he does well. So it should look different, 133 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: I would think than it did Monday night. I went 134 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: back to Colt's first two starts this season beating the 135 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Rams and then losing to the forty nine ers, and 136 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: you go back to the win first of all, and 137 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: that game plan we all expected more of a conservative approach, 138 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: run the ball, hopefully get a lead. And what happened. 139 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: The game started with eleven consecutive pass attempts. That's right, 140 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: McCoy completed, or I should say, finished with thirty seven 141 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: pass attempts, twenty seven of which we're in the first half. 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: You get the lead, and then all of a sudden, Okay, 143 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: now we'll dial it back and rely on the ground game. 144 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: Now that Rams defense pretty capable. The following week, the 145 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers defense much better and you couldn't really 146 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: use that same game plan. Curious, now, when you look 147 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: at this Broncos defense, number four scoring defense in the league, 148 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: what is the game plan for Coote McCoy. Is it 149 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: that quick game? Is it something completely different? James Connor 150 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: is running more effectively than we've seen for much of 151 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: this season. How do the Cardinals get back in that 152 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: win column against a Broncos team that can't do anything offensively, 153 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: but it is very stout defensively. And that's a great 154 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: question because what is Denver gonna do defensively? You talk 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: to guys in the locker room, and the Broncos have 156 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: really used a lot of man cover, which Cardinals have 157 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: not seen a lot up this year. Most teams are 158 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: going with a two high safety soft shell coverage, given 159 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: the Cardinals anything and everything underneath making them sustain extended drives? 160 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals do it without beating themselves, without making 161 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: those mistakes that derail the drive get behind the sticks 162 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: as the most teams have done. But Denver is known 163 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: with a cornerback like Patrick Certam and in a really 164 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: talented secondary of being aggressive in that way and getting 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: up in receivers spaces, so very curious from the get go. 166 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: One of the reasons they started with eleven straight passes 167 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: against the Rams is because they saw on film the 168 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: Rams corners were given a tremendous amount of cushion. So like, 169 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: you know what, if you're gonna give us five yards 170 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: on first down and make a second down and manageable 171 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: third down, in short, we'll take it every single time. 172 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: And they forced and you saw it, especially in the 173 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: second half. You saw the Rams come out of their 174 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: initial game plan and go with a lot more pressed 175 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: man covers. So what is Denver gonna do? Randy Gregory 176 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: is going to play Obviously, their mis Bradley Chubb who 177 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: got traded away earlier in the year. You know, the 178 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive line camp pick up where it left off 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: against New England, given up four sacks in that fourth quarter. Bought. 180 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: At that point, the Cardinals offense was one dimensional. They 181 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: had gotten behind by two scores. They really went to 182 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: the pass game. The pass rushers just pin their ears back. 183 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 1: So I agree with you. You know what, even if 184 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: you are down ten or fourteen points, don't abandon the 185 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: run game. James or average six yards to carry. So 186 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: if you can stay patient and stay balanced, I think 187 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: that'll be big Bronchos defensively much better against the past 188 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: than they are against the run. Number seven against the past, 189 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: number seventeen against the run. And it goes back to 190 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: what you were talking about that secondary led by Patrick Surtan. 191 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: You've got two quality safeties in Justin Simmons and Kareem Jackson, 192 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: and they've got size in that secondary as well. What 193 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: do you do from the Bronchos standpoint with the DeAndre 194 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: Hopkins Hollywood Brown, They're continuing chemistry and forcing defense to go, 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: all right, are you gonna go man? Or are you 196 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna put that safety over the top on one side 197 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: or the other, and then do we see more Perhaps 198 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson A J. Green. Greg Doors only played four 199 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: snaps on Monday against the Patriots, which was eyebrow raising. 200 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: But if you're alternating Hollywood and de Hop inside and outside, 201 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: maybe there's less snaps for Doors. And you're right, Robbie 202 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: Anderson obviously earned more playing time. He looked really good. 203 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know a lot of Cardinals fans and 204 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: rightfully so, we're saying finally, but they got some real 205 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: production out of him, and I think he built up 206 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: some confidence as well. Just watching the body language seeing 207 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: him in the sideline, you can tell he's like, Okay, 208 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: here we go. Now he finally feels I think, part 209 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: of the offense and he's playing without thinking and he's 210 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: making those catches. Yeah, that Greg Dortch is an okomprendo. 211 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: When Dortch gets four snaps and AJ Green gets forty five, 212 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: I get it. Dortch is more of an inside guy. 213 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: I get that. But if you're trying to get your 214 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: best playmakers out on the field Dortch in space, just 215 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: get him the ball, especially if you're forced to work 216 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: the underneath game. If they're playing those saft shell coverages. 217 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: We saw him take it to the forty nine ers 218 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: in Mexico City. How many times they get him the 219 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: ball underneath and he's making the first guy miss. He's 220 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: a return man. He prides himself on that. So love 221 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: to see more of that of Greg Dortch. And then 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: there's the Hollywood Brown dynamic. It was the first game 223 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: he'd ever played with Colte McCoy. It showed at times 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of room for improvement when it comes 225 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: to that chemistry between Cold and Hollywood Brown. They had 226 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: all week to practice. Colt got the rep something like 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: the week before, So we'll see. We'll see if that's 228 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: something because once again, if over these last four games 229 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: you can get d Hop in Hollywood Brown in sync 230 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: and really get a sense of how that's going to work, 231 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: get their chemistry together, and then how can you leverage 232 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: that against the defense. You've heard Cliff Kingsbury say, Hey, 233 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: if only the Cardinals had zach Ertz, there's so much 234 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: room to work out there now with both Hollywood and 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: d Hop out on the field. Will guess what Trey 236 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: McBride needs to be that guy. A couple of weeks ago, 237 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray said it, said we got it, and he did. 238 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: He told the media it was his welcome to the 239 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: NFL moment when he got blasted and that one catch 240 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. So hopefully that starts a good trend 241 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: here because McBride was productive on Monday Night. Cliff mentioned 242 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: on Friday that Tray McBride is playing faster, meaning he's 243 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: not thinking as much. Now we need to see the results, 244 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: but I wonder having him go back to Colorado, family 245 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: and friends and attendency. Addressed the media this week, said 246 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: he grew up a Broncos fans, watched a lot of 247 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: games at what was then Mile High Stadium. Can this 248 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: be a breakout game? After he had had his welcome 249 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: to the NFL moment on Monday Night football, he got 250 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: popped and still was able to hang on to that football. 251 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: And you talk about even that moment a confidence boost 252 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: for a young tight end who was in his pot 253 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: that I don't think the Cardinals planned for him to 254 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: be in because, yeah, Zach Ertz is going to be healthy, 255 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: Max Williams is available. Stephen Anderson, you kind of drafted 256 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: Trey McBride with an eye towards the future because the 257 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: uncertainty with Williams's health and then all of a sudden, 258 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: zach Ertz has done for the season and McBride tap 259 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: on that shoulder, you're end. Kid. He was also penalty 260 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: prone early in the year. He really drew a lot 261 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: of flags and there was some frustration associated with that. 262 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: So he's eliminated that from his game. You know how 263 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: many rookies it takes some half a season, two thirds 264 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: of a season to really get it into gear, falls 265 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: into that category. There's still a lot of room for 266 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: improvement at the point of attack, you know, chipping, blocking, 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: pass protection, even the run game. They need that out 268 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: of him. When you're a second round tight end, the 269 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: top tight end taking in this last draft, you need 270 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: to be a duel tight end and they saw that 271 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: on film. They need to see more of that at 272 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: this level. I know talking to Max Williams, we had 273 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: him on the Big Red Rage a good two months 274 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: ago and he said, Trey McBride is definitely capable. So 275 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: everyone has a bit of a different learning curve. You know. 276 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: It was even interesting on hard Knocks, was it not 277 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: to hear about JJ Watt and him sharing some of 278 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: his travails as a rookie, and then Vance Joseph talked 279 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: about it this week that JJ Watt is a first 280 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: round pick with the Houston Texans. Vance Joseph was on 281 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: that staff. JJ really struggled and to hear JJ tell it, 282 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: he said, you know what, it got to the point 283 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: where I was trying to please this coach or please 284 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: that coach, and finally I said I and he said I. 285 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: My game was stinking anyway, why not go ahead and 286 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: just do it my way? What do I have to 287 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: lose to this point? And that's the point that really 288 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: was a turning point. And then Vance Joseph said he 289 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: put together a game in his playoff debut, that wildcard 290 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: playoff game that year, and that JJ Watt did things 291 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: he'd never seen a defensive lineman do before, and boom, 292 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: his career was off and running. Three time NFL Defensive 293 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Cam Thomas told a similar story 294 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: on The Big Red Rage about that Craig about now 295 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: just recently. It was actually in camp. It was late 296 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: in camp, he had gone a four or five day stretch, 297 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: had mannitty plays, and he got embarrassed by an offensive lineman, 298 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: got driven back into the play. He's like, this can't happen, 299 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: this isn't me and he decided to cut it loose himself. 300 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: And he's been on a slow, built, slow progression ever since. 301 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: So you know, you can gain things that will carry 302 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: over in the next season. No, not momentum, but on 303 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: a player by player basis, there are games to be made, 304 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: some positive moments, that confidence that can translates and go 305 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: from one season to the next season. And that's what 306 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: you want to see over these next four games. But 307 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals on offense are going to be successful 308 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,359 Speaker 1: on Sunday you talk about quote McCoy and the receivers, 309 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: there is going to be a new addition to the 310 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: offensive line, which should help. When we talk about pass protection. 311 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: It's an old familiar face. Will Hernandez, who's been on IRS, 312 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: expected to be activated and available this week after missing 313 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the last four games with a chest injury. You plug 314 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: him back into right guard or perhaps Paul and this 315 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: was never really asked of anyone, but because Will has 316 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: played predominantly in his career left guard, do you really 317 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: want to see something from the left side with Will 318 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: Hernandez over these last four games? Yes, he's going to 319 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: be a free agent. Is he part of the future 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,479 Speaker 1: on this team? Justin Pugh? What's his future? He contemplated 321 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: retirement at the end of last season. Does he do 322 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: it again after this season? Again, just throwing it out there. 323 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: My guess it will be right guard, because you don't 324 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: want a bunch of moving pieces. But when you're talking 325 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: about what do we have from players coming back or 326 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: we would like to come back, where do they fit 327 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: in this massive puzzle, whether it's offense or defense? Well, 328 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: and the offensive line, correct me if I'm wrong. The 329 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: only regular and I say regular meaning the first seven 330 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: or eight guys because they played some of the twelve 331 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: different guys have played this year, the only one under 332 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: contract is DJ Humphries. Correct. So you have a lot 333 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: of questions up front. Rodney Hudson is but I think 334 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: I think that's with an asterisk, and I'm let's be honest. 335 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: Paul ship Is said, there's a better likelihood of me 336 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: walking outside and dunking a basketball than the Cardinals getting 337 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: another season out a Rodney Hudson. I'd love to see 338 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: that right now. Again, that's not going to happen, neither one. 339 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. So yes, and that 340 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: isn't a stute observation because if Will Hernandez, even after 341 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: a season of playing right guard, is still more comfortable 342 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: because he played four years of left guard with the 343 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: Giants and you're going to be starting from scratch and 344 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: that offensive line being everybody next to DJ Humphrey's going 345 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: to the right, then guess what, Maybe you put him 346 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: where he does play his best, where he's most comfortable. 347 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: You heard Josh Jones talk about how much more comfortable 348 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: he is at left tackle, that he's just that much 349 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: more aggressive, he doesn't have to think, and he just 350 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: it feels like home to him. So that's an interesting 351 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: dynamic in and of itself. What happens when DJ Humphries 352 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: comes back, because Josh Jones is a better player at 353 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: left tackle. But with that in mind, yeah, will Hernandez 354 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: four games left, big question? What is his future? Is it? 355 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: With the Cardinals? There are nearly thirty pending free agents 356 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: on this team. There are is a boatload and now 357 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: with the uncertainty around the GM Steve Kim who's on 358 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: the indefinite leave of absence, if I'm a player in 359 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: that locker room and whether it's Adrian Wilson, Quinn Harris 360 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: or maybe another GM. And I'm just openly speculating. I 361 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: have no idea on any front, but you're darntoun. I 362 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: want to put some good final film out there for 363 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: whoever the decision makers this offseason. And that's why these 364 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: four games, is there something to play for? No? At 365 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: four and nine, the playoffs out of reach, out of mind, 366 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: But what does this team look like next season? Who's back, 367 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: who's not back, who's somewhere else, who's not even in 368 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: the league. And a lot can happen over these last 369 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: four games, no questions. So you look at the offense, 370 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: you look at I mean just even some of the 371 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: young guys. Is Zach Allen now with a hand surgery. 372 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: He's gonna least miss the game this weekend against the 373 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos Byron Murphy, another big former draft pick who 374 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: was having a big year until he had the back injury. 375 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: They are all these question marks personnel wise. So you 376 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: know what, if you're a player, you're well served to 377 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: make the decision for him, Prove it to him, show 378 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: them and so we'll see what that means, because look, 379 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be cold out there, it's gonna be a 380 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: meaningless game. In a lot of ways, Cardinals have yet 381 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: to pack it in. Okay, knock on wood. The effort, intensity, 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: the urgency has been there. We haven't had a game like, oh, 383 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: I don't know, last year at Detroit where they were 384 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: a da dead unarrival, or at home against Carolina complete 385 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: lack of energy and urgency like two years ago Week 386 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: sixteen against the forty nine ers or the following week 387 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: against the Rams. So you're hoping that doesn't happen at 388 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: any point in these remaining four games. But my radar 389 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: is up just in case, and I think that's where 390 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy comes in, and it's that leadership from him 391 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: that gets everybody to buy in a JJ Watt you 392 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: saw that unhard Knocks, So in a lot of ways, 393 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: that is a tribute to Cliff Kingsbury. At the same time, 394 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: it's been the same issues week after week, and yes 395 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: it's vexing and frustrating, and yes you heard the coach 396 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: lament as much in the postgame locker room on Hard 397 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: Knocks that accountability needs to improve and Craig correct me 398 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. We've talked about this in the off 399 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: season that the previous offseason was all about leadership. You're 400 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: bringing a JJ Watt, You're bringing a Rodney Hudson. What 401 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: was this passed offseason all about accountability? Even hard knocks itself, 402 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: we surmised was adding a layer of accountability. Put everyone 403 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: on camera, put your name in face on it, own it. 404 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: And it's still an issue to this point. What is 405 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: the remedy, what is the solution? And to me, if 406 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: you can somehow resolve that going into the off season, 407 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: that would be as big as anything. Two h five 408 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: is the kickoff on Sunday nine thirty a on Pregame 409 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network. Cardinals four 410 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: and nine, Broncos three and ten and yes no Russell Wolson. 411 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 1: Brett Rippin, who was signed by the Broncos as an 412 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie free agent and twenty nineteen, played at Boise State. 413 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: He is getting the start his third career start. There's 414 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: not much film on him, Paul, but if your vanch Joseph, 415 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: it's all about all right, us making sure that we 416 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: make him uncomfortable in the pocket. He started earlier this 417 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 1: season lost the Jets in Week seven only has ninety 418 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: six career pass attempts, three touchdowns, six interceptions, a lot 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: of unknown with Brett Rippon. Yeah, you did have a 420 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: touchdown last week when Russell Wilson was knocked out of 421 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: that game with a concussion. But I'm curious on how 422 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: this defense goes out and about attacking the broncos On 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: offense when there might be a lot of adjustments after 424 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: the first offensive series of the game. Somebody needs to 425 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: get Buddha Baker in front of the room because Buddha 426 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: Baker played against Brett Rippon in high school. According to Buddha, 427 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: so I don't know a game tape or any sort 428 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: of takeaways might still apply as to the style of 429 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: game Brett Rippon plays. But I'm just gonna guess vance 430 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Joseph knowing his m O and liking to bring pressure 431 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: and numbers against a ultra inexperienced quarterback at home, you 432 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: know the big stage. Well, I'm guessing. I'm guessing here 433 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: it comes. Here, it comes Buddha Baker on a blitz. 434 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: Here it comes Zavian Collins and or Isaiah Simmons mug 435 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: and the a gaps are off the edge. I think 436 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: Brett Rippins is going to see a little bit of 437 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: anything and everything by design from Vance Joseph in this game, who, 438 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: by the way, is going back to the team where 439 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: he was a head coach for two years. Didn't really 440 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about that. He said he had really 441 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: no feelings going back. And I'll say this, if the 442 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals do win and they walk off that field, my 443 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: guess is Vance Joseph there might be a little bit, 444 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: a little bit extra wider of a smile on his face, 445 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: not for the fact that the Cardinals in a three 446 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: game losing streak. And I don't think there's any eel will. 447 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: I completely believe Vans Joseph saying, look at you know, 448 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: great experience didn't work out. No ill feelings, But you 449 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: can't tell me like deep down inside, especially if you win, 450 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're feeling just a little bit, 451 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're walking up on your toes just 452 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: a little bit more you walk out of that stadium. 453 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: The twenty eighteen game, which was the last time the 454 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals and Broncos played, that was the von Miller game 455 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: where Von Miller called his shot. Yeah, I remember that game. 456 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: It was a Thursday night cost Mike McCoy's job. Yep. 457 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Betch Joseph was on the other sideline, yep. And guess what, 458 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson was not happy. That was a zone cover game. 459 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: Pat P wanted the assignment against Emmanuel Sanders on Thursday 460 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: night at primetime. He didn't get it. Immanuel Sanders scored 461 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: on a big chunk play throw against a backup safety 462 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: Rudy Ford. I believe fact check that for me play someone. 463 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: But anyway, Pat P, I don't think by coincidence. I 464 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: never got verification this. I just surmised that it was 465 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: the day after when all of a sudden his trade 466 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: request surfaced. There was a lot of dissatisfaction, and that 467 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: was sort of the beginning or when at least bubbled 468 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: to the top. But yeah, that was the von Miller 469 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: game where he called his shot and the Broncos won 470 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: by three scores, and that's where things really started to 471 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: go south at two eighteen season. What I and you 472 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: look at the all time series, this is only their 473 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: twelfth all time meeting and the first time at Denver 474 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen. I remember that game. That was Peyton Manning. 475 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: That was Peyton Manning, And what I remember about that 476 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: game is I've never heard of stadium so quiet. Peyton 477 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: Manning would come up and you put the arms out. 478 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: He in motion for silencio. Everyone stifled themselves because I'm 479 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 1: running the offense here, and it was like a golf tournament. 480 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: It was golf quiet, like somebody's about to tee off. 481 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable how quiet that stadium was. In fact, 482 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: the only other time I've heard a stadium that quiet 483 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: would have been the COVID year when it was dead empty. 484 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: It was dead empty, so anyway it was. It was 485 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning was the course marshal at a golf 486 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: tournament and putting up the quiet police sign. That's basically 487 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: what he was doing. Was that the game in which 488 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Klais Campbell got the interception but was tackled just shy 489 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: the goal line by the aforementioned Peyton Manning and never 490 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: heard the end of it still to this day. And 491 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: Clais did not think that was funny. He got a 492 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: lot of ribbing. He did not think that was funny. 493 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: So we started to kind of go down that path, 494 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: and when the six foot eight Klais gave me the 495 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: side eye, I changed topics immediately I changed the tone 496 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 1: of my snarkiness. And that was also the game where 497 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: they went after Calais right with a cheap show. Oh yes. 498 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: And Ba's comment after the game was, that's the cheapest 499 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: play I've seen in my thirty years of coaching, going 500 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: after the knees. Yes. So, um yeah, there was a 501 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: lot going on in that game. We'll see about you 502 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: know this game, it's it's been a Broncho fan base 503 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: that oh boy, they've been booing the home team. Obviously, 504 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: they're disenchanted with both the head coach and the quarterback 505 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And that is a gift that keeps on 506 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: given to the Seattle Seahawks, is it not. Right now, 507 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bronchos have the number two pick and it belongs 508 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: to Seattle. So and that's the And here's what you're 509 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: gonna get on Twitter and brace yourself. Here's what you're 510 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: gonna get on the post game because if the Cardinals lose, 511 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: they will vault ahead of the Bronchos in the draft order. 512 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: I've already gotten it, Paul. I know you. I know 513 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: you're out, so you know. And there's a guy by 514 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: the name of Jalen Carter who's out there from Georgia, 515 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: the wrecking ball defensive lineman who I'm guessing goes number 516 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: two after Bryce Young as we look ahead to the 517 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: April draft, So this could be the race, or this 518 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: could be a game that's very instrumental, not unlike the 519 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: end of the twenty eighteen season where the Cardinals, where 520 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals ended up losing to the Raiders, and that 521 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: Raiders come back when at the very end cost John 522 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Gruden the number one pick and Kyler Murray and Gruen 523 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: actually lamented that at like the NFL Owners meetings in 524 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: February later, and he talked about how they're come back 525 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: when put the Raiders at four and put the Cardinals 526 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: at number one. This is how bad this season has gotten, 527 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: because we haven't even hit Christmas and we're already talking 528 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: about drafts, Paul. I have seen already early mock drafts, 529 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: and typically you ignore them until the end of the 530 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: regular season. You ignore them if your team makes the season. 531 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't care. But I did find myself clicking that 532 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: initial mock draft just yep, just all of a sudden 533 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: start to familiar. And I stay disciplined, don't you succumb 534 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: to the temptation, you succumb to it. Yep. It's sort 535 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: of like trying to keep your discipline during the holidays 536 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: and not go back to the cookie plate for a 537 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: third or four time. It's tough, it really is. There's 538 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: no doubt you want to look at the draft and 539 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: you want to have those sugar plums dancing in your 540 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: head about a dominant, defensive, wrecking ball lineman who comes 541 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: in or I don't know, maybe you know a franchise tackle. 542 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: I look, edge rush, edge rusher. Oh, thank you, yes, 543 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I you know what I would put it in that order, 544 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: edge rusher, defensive lineman. You know you're not going to 545 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: take a center in the top five, but that is 546 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: a priority. I think in this draft top a round two. 547 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: If you went center, I could totally see that. But 548 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: those are the three areas just off the top corner. 549 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: If you're bringing back Byron Murphy. I don't think it's 550 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: nearly as much of a need ass as most would 551 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: purport it to be. I'm starting in the trenches, bird gang. 552 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: Just consider that a tease to what we have for 553 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: the next four months. That's right, four months. The draft 554 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: is not until the end of April, and it's gonna 555 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: make us all remember and want to go back to 556 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: last season where you're in the playoffs and you're not 557 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: too focused on the draft. But to your point, Paul, yeah, 558 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: there are a number of holes on this offense, this defense, 559 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: and again a number of questions considering who the quarterback 560 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: is going to be, the head coach, the general manager, 561 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: name it. I mean, this could be an off season 562 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: unlike any other, and I believe we've talked about previous 563 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: offseasons going in going hey, this might be an off 564 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: season unlike any other. But I think twenty twenty three 565 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: is going to see some massive changes, no question. And 566 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: there's hard knocks to document the last month of this season, 567 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: so we'll find out exactly, you know, exactly what maybe 568 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: the temperature is around the team. That's a big question. 569 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: There's been plenty of distractions so far obviously, so what 570 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: does that mean, How does that translate into this final 571 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: month and some of these games you see, especially some 572 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: of these road games, and once again it's going to 573 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: be cold in Denver and Arizona. Teams don't have a 574 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: great track record playing in the cold, so we'll see. 575 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: That's the first thing I'm going to track as the 576 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: pencil next sideline reporter. Okay, is the cold to distraction. 577 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: We'll see sometimes it has been historically, you know, not 578 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be any snow or anything like that. But yeah, 579 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have a lot of questions. I do like though, 580 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: what they've done so far in the run game. I 581 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: do like the fact that James Connor is more north south. 582 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that they have some different schemes, 583 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: especially between the tackles, and then when it's not between 584 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: the tackles, they're doing a good job of getting the 585 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: edge and getting them out on dbs, and James Kunner 586 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: is doing a great job of finishing and punishing those 587 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: smaller guys. So I think that is something that can 588 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: carry over. Just the identity of the run game. The 589 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: last couple of games where he's over two hundred yards 590 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: combined in the last two outings, that to me has legs, 591 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, so to speak. Is okay. I think they're 592 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: finding a formula in the run game. And we'll see 593 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: once again, you said the Broncos are middle of the 594 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: pack and run defense, right, okay, So we'll see if 595 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: they can establish something early obviously and stay balanced. We 596 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: all saw what happened when they went to a one 597 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: dimensional offense in that fourth quarter against New England. It 598 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: was hunting season. Against Colt McCoy. It was not nimble 599 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: of foot. He doesn't have that escapability. So the run 600 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: game is vital. Get off to a good start, build 601 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: a lead to where Paul, you can just kind of 602 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: huddle up next to the heaters and not worry about 603 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: maybe the bulk of that fourth quarter because temperatures will 604 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: drop alow of eighteen as I just bothered to check 605 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the weather forecast, so I hope you are prepared as 606 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: well on that sideline. Well, I did talk to the specialists. 607 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: I did talk to Matt Prator and Aaron Brewer because 608 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: they spend many years in Denver, and you know what 609 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: they said. They said, don't eat Paul, don't even look 610 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: at the weather forecast until Saturday night because Colorado weather 611 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: can change in an instant like you don't know exactly 612 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: what you're gonna get until game day rolls around, and 613 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: even then it can change from pregame to the fourth quarters. 614 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: So but there's gonna be probably some swirling winds in there. 615 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Prator sort of gave me a wry smile. When I 616 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: asked you, you you know the wind patterns in that stadium, 617 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: he kind of gave me a smile and walked away. 618 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: So I took that as a yes that he knows 619 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: how that stadium works, because that's the way it is 620 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. You have to know how to read those 621 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: wind patterns off the lake. Denver isn't totally unlike that 622 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: for a kicker. We wish Paul well, We wish the 623 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals well. 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