Speaker 1: Second date up date. We don't normally hear about this
Speaker 1: on second dates, or I don't know if maybe it
Speaker 1: just doesn't happen a lot. I'm not sure. But in
Speaker 1: today's call our listener, Michelle says that she paid for
Speaker 1: the entire first date that they went on, drinks, food,
Speaker 1: and the activity that they did together. And then after
Speaker 1: doing all of that, wouldn't she know it, she's not
Speaker 1: getting a call back. Does it feel to be a
Speaker 1: guy all that effort for no reward?
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't the guy at least do one thing? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: If she's the one that set the date up, then
Speaker 3: it's her responsibility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Before we jump to any conclusions here, let's talk
Speaker 1: to Michelle and find out what happened. Michelle, how you doing?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 5: I'm good. How are you guys doing good?
Speaker 6: It's a good start.
Speaker 3: Since you're on the phone with us, Some people come
Speaker 3: in a little bit more fragile.
Speaker 1: You seem like you're in good spirits, but clearly something's
Speaker 1: going wrong if this guy isn't calling you back, So
Speaker 1: tell us about the situation. Who is he?
Speaker 5: Well, his name is Calvin. We met on a dating app.
Speaker 3: And you I mean, my first question is are you
Speaker 3: the one that initiated all the contact?
Speaker 5: And it was pretty mutual in the beginning when we
Speaker 5: exchange numbers. We were just going back and forth and
Speaker 5: we spoke on the phone a few times and face timed.
Speaker 5: But I had at the topic of self care had
Speaker 5: came up during one of our conversations.
Speaker 2: You say self care, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Self care? Yeah okay, And so I asked him if
Speaker 5: he ever had a manny and petty and he and
Speaker 5: he said no, Oh.
Speaker 6: Every man get a man makes sense.
Speaker 4: I've heard that my best friend gets manny's and petties,
Speaker 4: but I've never done it.
Speaker 6: They feel so good.
Speaker 1: I had a guy friend going for a manny petty
Speaker 1: lost his foot.
Speaker 6: Still going back, Ali, Yeah, Petty, Well yeah.
Speaker 1: The place that he went wasn't a credited but but
Speaker 1: you're foot in this bucket. I'm assuming that you probably
Speaker 1: took him to more reputable place. Yeah okay. So was
Speaker 1: there any indecision about who was going to pay for
Speaker 1: this part of the date.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, we didn't discuss it ahead of time, but
Speaker 5: I paid for the whole thing because he didn't have
Speaker 5: his wallet, he didn't know where it was, so I mean,
Speaker 5: it wasn't It wasn't a big deal to me.
Speaker 2: Whoa wallet?
Speaker 5: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: Like you pad the scene, like you don't find this
Speaker 3: out till what you're standing at the register.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So we got to the counter and he looked
Speaker 5: like he was attempting to pay, like he was adding
Speaker 5: down his pockets and stuff like that. And he's like, oh, man,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't have my wallet. It looks like
Speaker 5: I don't even have it.
Speaker 2: Hit him at the girls of the bars. You're like,
Speaker 2: I've never tried to kilos.
Speaker 6: If somebody buys you, I've never had my nails done,
Speaker 6: and then you get paid.
Speaker 2: That's so smart, I would.
Speaker 3: She's like, exactly, who his phone isn't connected these days
Speaker 3: to your credit card?
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: My phone is not connected to my credit card. By
Speaker 1: the way, it's called a life pack book. So thank
Speaker 1: you for lunch. After this, I.
Speaker 5: Thought of that too. I was like, oh, you can
Speaker 5: just cash app if you want or whatever. And he's like,
Speaker 5: he doesn't do that because someone had stold his credit
Speaker 5: card information at.
Speaker 6: One point, you have cash up and he said no.
Speaker 5: Well he didn't have he didn't have any links.
Speaker 1: Okay, this guy. He's had a rough he's had a
Speaker 1: rough go with the payment stuff in his past, so
Speaker 1: let's give him a break on that. Okay, So, but
Speaker 1: there was more after the manny petty it sounds.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, so he loved it. And then after the
Speaker 5: nail salawn we went to a bar and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden he found his wallet. I guess he
Speaker 5: didn't realize, oh.
Speaker 6: My gosh, oh right after it is a guy, you
Speaker 6: don't even have a purse. I know he gave me
Speaker 6: he was wearing cargo pants.
Speaker 3: There are so many pockets in those things, that's true.
Speaker 5: It was like in a pocket within a pot. It
Speaker 5: was like this forgot like.
Speaker 6: Suddenly I found my ID, so I can go into
Speaker 6: drink in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fate smiling on your date right there.
Speaker 6: So I mean at that point he should pay for
Speaker 6: the drinks.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, did he pay for the drinks at least?
Speaker 5: Well, let's rewind a little bit. So he had his
Speaker 5: ID in the wallet, but he didn't have any money
Speaker 5: in his wallet because he had just made a payment
Speaker 5: right before he left his house. And I can understand
Speaker 5: like he's nervous about the date.
Speaker 6: There's no understanding why are we calling him? I mean, look,
Speaker 6: it's scamming her.
Speaker 1: Alexis doesn't trust the guy unless he leaves the credit
Speaker 1: card at a house.
Speaker 2: Guys, have we thought? And I don't want to make
Speaker 2: this sad, but he doesn't have a lot of money.
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. You don't just tell someone I have three
Speaker 2: dollars in my bag. I've been there.
Speaker 6: Take a date where you can afford something, then sure?
Speaker 1: But what if this is all true? Though? What if
Speaker 1: he actually couldn't find his wallet and he was really
Speaker 1: nervous about a date with a great girl and was
Speaker 1: just making mistakes.
Speaker 3: Okay, if it was true, Jeff, I would think that
Speaker 3: he would call her for a second date to you know, even.
Speaker 6: The even if even if he wasn't.
Speaker 3: Super interested, if it was true, he'd be like, let's
Speaker 3: go out again so I can treat you next time
Speaker 3: you when you get home.
Speaker 1: Yes, but the embarrassment and the shame of having to
Speaker 1: do that is really overwhelming for somebody.
Speaker 2: I mean, my heart drops just thinking about that.
Speaker 6: I don't know, she sounds pretty nice. She sounds like
Speaker 6: it didn't bother her one bit, Like, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, how did you feel about it? Michelle?
Speaker 5: Well, you know everything, what really is great? On our date.
Speaker 5: I didn't mind paying. Things happen in life, and I
Speaker 5: went into it was an open mind and just wanted
Speaker 5: to get to know him. We had great conversation, so
Speaker 5: I was for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, but at this point after the date, he's not
Speaker 1: calling you back.
Speaker 5: Right like I'll text and sometimes he doesn't respond at all,
Speaker 5: and sometimes he does, and it's kind.
Speaker 3: Of like, sure, yeah that's right with Brook, Why is
Speaker 3: he not taking you out?
Speaker 2: He doesn't respond.
Speaker 1: No, maybe he just forgot what pocket his phone was
Speaker 1: in and he's like, oh, it's usually in this pocket.
Speaker 1: Now it's in my jacket pocket.
Speaker 3: Where are they finding all of these clothes with tiny
Speaker 3: hidden pockets?
Speaker 5: I mean I kind of gathered that maybe he's like
Speaker 5: embarrassed about it, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be fun with him.
Speaker 2: You want to I did.
Speaker 5: I just want to know what's up, what's the deal?
Speaker 5: I can't wait forever, but I do. I like his vibe.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Well maybe his ego is a little bit
Speaker 1: down right now, but I think just the fact that
Speaker 1: we call him and tell him that you're still interested
Speaker 1: would be a huge boost to it, for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So let's do that. We'll come back. We're gonna call
Speaker 1: Calvin for you and try and get you a second date.
Speaker 1: Update right after this second date update. Are we just
Speaker 1: a jaded, cynical bunch of radio sleeve bags judging people
Speaker 1: on the surface.
Speaker 6: Wait that a question, Of course we are.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't take that much pride in it, because, for
Speaker 1: the first time in probably over two years, a woman
Speaker 1: has come on the show and said she paid for
Speaker 1: everything on a first date because the guy forgot his
Speaker 1: wallet or you know, misplaced it for a second at least,
Speaker 1: And most of us instantly thought, oh, this guy is
Speaker 1: a total scam artist who doesn't deserve a date, let
Speaker 1: alone any love in his life.
Speaker 6: But I don't know that we went that far. Is
Speaker 6: that what you were thinking in your head?
Speaker 1: I heard Alexis say, why do you even want to
Speaker 1: call this guy?
Speaker 2: That's okay, keep going with the story, though it gets worse.
Speaker 7: Why The bottom line is Michelle says she had a
Speaker 7: great time with him, felt the connection and thought maybe
Speaker 7: his nervousness just caused him to make a few bonehead mistakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was have.
Speaker 2: A lot of money.
Speaker 6: He found his wallet out, just his credit card.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing is Michelle is willing to give him
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt in that situation. Can we
Speaker 1: do the same find the good in him?
Speaker 3: Sounds a little scammy, but we'll try.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 1: I guess the weird part is afterwards Calvin isn't offering
Speaker 1: to repay her or even reaching out for another day.
Speaker 1: That's the weird part. Our thought is maybe nervousness and embarrassment.
Speaker 1: Where are you at, Michelle?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like he was nervous and embarrassed. I mean,
Speaker 5: you guys weren't there, so.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we also make light of stuff.
Speaker 6: We're half joking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you feel like he's a good guy deep down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm all about the person and not money.
Speaker 1: So Alexis just rolled her eyes at You're so sorry
Speaker 1: about that. Let's just get Let's just call Calvin though,
Speaker 1: because I do want to hear what he has to
Speaker 1: say about this. So here we go. I'm dialing this
Speaker 1: number right now.
Speaker 8: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hey is this Calvin?
Speaker 8: Yeah? This Calvin's going on?
Speaker 1: Hey, Hey Calvin, we're a radio show and we're hoping
Speaker 1: to talk to you about your dating life a little bit.
Speaker 8: What are you talking about? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, It sounds a little bit weird, but it's
Speaker 1: a segment that we do called a second date Update,
Speaker 1: and that's where we help our listeners reconnect with somebody
Speaker 1: that they went out on a date with if they're
Speaker 1: not able to get a second one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, So what's going on.
Speaker 6: That one's interested in you? Is that surprising at all
Speaker 6: to you? Calvin?
Speaker 8: The way my life going, and yes, that's very surprising.
Speaker 1: Hold on, don't get doubt on yourself because this is Michelle.
Speaker 1: You guys went and got like manicure pedicure stuff together.
Speaker 8: Ooh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh oh okay, because that was like a very much.
Speaker 3: If he's embarrassed by the date, that that's a natural reaction.
Speaker 1: We heard a little from Michelle about it. We heard
Speaker 1: that she like, misplaced your wallet and couldn't pay and
Speaker 1: then found it later.
Speaker 2: Bro, it sounded like a mess and it didn't gain
Speaker 2: you in the best light, right.
Speaker 3: I mean, And then there was like the excuse that
Speaker 3: you don't do any cash app.
Speaker 1: Sorry we're not trying to pile on you here, but
Speaker 1: I mean and also your name, I'm kidding, how did
Speaker 1: you feel about the wallet situation?
Speaker 8: I'll be ready with you. I feel really bad about
Speaker 8: the whole night, Bud. I'm just not at a really
Speaker 8: good point right now financially, which makes dating hard. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so you know, I really do feel bad about the
Speaker 8: whole night.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: Okay, you don't have to feel bad. She's still really
Speaker 3: interested in you.
Speaker 2: She brought that up to her like he may not have,
Speaker 2: and she did not.
Speaker 6: Text is free, So.
Speaker 1: Don't take that from the woman who has her mom
Speaker 1: pay her cel phone bak. Okay, So look, it's so
Speaker 1: we know that we know that you ended up finding
Speaker 1: your wallet right before you got to the bar. Was
Speaker 1: that just so that you could get your ID to
Speaker 1: get in?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Because I just didn't know how to tell her
Speaker 8: I didn't have any money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I mean the thing is is like she sounds so
Speaker 3: open and cool, like you should have just suggested a
Speaker 3: date that didn't cost as much.
Speaker 1: She knows that we all go through tough times. So
Speaker 1: let's say that she was still interested after the disaster
Speaker 1: of your first date.
Speaker 6: I think we just said that.
Speaker 1: What is your take on that.
Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I would probably say no because she's
Speaker 8: just too good for me. I don't want to waste
Speaker 8: her time.
Speaker 3: No, why would you say that everybody goes through hard times.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to bring that into
Speaker 8: my drama and all my life.
Speaker 6: Are you not single?
Speaker 1: Before you answer that, we get too deep into this,
Speaker 1: I want to bring on someone who's more important than
Speaker 1: any of us in this room, and that's Michelle, who's
Speaker 1: been waiting patiently on the other line listening to this call,
Speaker 1: wanting to talk to you.
Speaker 8: Where are you talking about, Seana phone?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how this segment works. We have them listening
Speaker 1: Michelle there.
Speaker 5: Hi, Calvin, Hi, Michelle. I mean, I haven't heard from you,
Speaker 5: so I'm really happy to hear your voice.
Speaker 8: I just want to apologize up front. I'm just going
Speaker 8: through a lot right now. I don't have a job,
Speaker 8: so I just don't want to wait.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm honestly, I mean that just means you're you're
Speaker 5: an entrepreneur. I think you're just looking at this whole
Speaker 5: thing wrong.
Speaker 1: What do you look at it interesting?
Speaker 5: I mean, every business owner goes through this in the beginning,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure even the YouTube owners struggled, Airbnb
Speaker 5: owners struggled in the beginning. This is just and I'm
Speaker 5: I'm I'm willing to stick by you.
Speaker 4: Know, basis when he's working out of his garage a billionaire.
Speaker 6: He was already rich.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, well, I mean, Calvin, she's willing to
Speaker 1: give you the benefit of the doubt. I'm having no job.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I'm like fully broke man, like I have
Speaker 8: no money, and I'm serious. I feel like she's such
Speaker 8: a good person. I just feel like I'll be wasting
Speaker 8: her time.
Speaker 5: It's not that you don't have any You're not materialistic.
Speaker 5: It's not about money with you.
Speaker 2: Oh god, you guys together.
Speaker 3: Some of my best relationships they were men who didn't
Speaker 3: have home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, love them the moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll tell your husband to give up the house
Speaker 1: and move into your Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: It's a hard thing for her husband to hear. The
Speaker 1: best relationships are with the homeless.
Speaker 6: Yes, he's obviously my best. Why do you have to
Speaker 6: compare everything? Jesus talking to my husband right now. I
Speaker 6: had relationships.
Speaker 2: You're hearing a.
Speaker 1: Happy relationship on the phone right now. These people excuse me, Sorry, continue, Michelle.
Speaker 5: He's not homeless. He has a home if he needs
Speaker 5: to come here.
Speaker 1: Wow, is that an offer?
Speaker 2: Did you just a girl?
Speaker 1: Calvin I mean.
Speaker 8: I never thought about it anything like that. Honestly, be
Speaker 8: real with you. I felt like even at night, I
Speaker 8: was kind of getting on her nerves because I was
Speaker 8: talking a lot of junk about my ex girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Oh well, don't bring it up.
Speaker 4: Now, obviously, Did you not learn anything from the last
Speaker 4: thirty seconds in my life?
Speaker 1: Everything is good, Michelle. Did you have a problem with
Speaker 1: him talking about his ex the whole night?
Speaker 5: No, I took it as it means that he's really
Speaker 5: passionate about love and he still believes in it.
Speaker 6: You cannot bring her down. No, I need to call
Speaker 6: her every time I'm having a bad day so.
Speaker 2: She could spin it.
Speaker 1: Fam I mean, I think brook she sees this little
Speaker 1: lump of coal and spots of Diamond's Aladdin right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And there's nothing wrong with wanting to change a man
Speaker 1: to be better.
Speaker 5: I don't want to change him. I don't need to
Speaker 5: change him. He perfect the way he is.
Speaker 6: That's really nice. Don't pass this up, Calvin. This is
Speaker 6: like once in a lifetime you meet a person like this.
Speaker 1: I mean, we would love to offer you guys to
Speaker 1: go out on another date, and we would pay for
Speaker 1: it if you're willing to at least give it a shot. Calvin.
Speaker 1: That way, you don't have to worry.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no no no no no. Listen, guys,
Speaker 5: this is my money, my choice. I want to pay
Speaker 5: for the date and let him know I am by
Speaker 5: his side.
Speaker 2: Okay, I wouldn't feel bad for Friday.
Speaker 6: The need a financial decisions.
Speaker 1: Calvin, I mean, what are you going to say? Are
Speaker 1: you willing to give her a chance to pay for
Speaker 1: your next day?
Speaker 8: She's offering the honor to Michelle. Thank you for even
Speaker 8: just understanding what I'm going through and wanting to be
Speaker 8: there for me.
Speaker 3: So yes, I.
Speaker 7: Would love to go on.
Speaker 1: Are man?
Speaker 6: This turned out so good? It like chipped away at
Speaker 6: my little jaded heart.
Speaker 1: So I can't well, congratulations you too. You're gonna meet.
Speaker 8: Up Michelle for real? Are you sure you want to
Speaker 8: go out with me?
Speaker 2: After all?
Speaker 8: It is because you know every time on the day,
Speaker 8: I'm just talking about myself.
Speaker 2: Wait what what rule?
Speaker 6: Maybe we could not do that.
Speaker 5: I just looked at it like you're opening up to me.
Speaker 5: You feel comfortable opening up to me, just.
Speaker 2: Not as Wallace.
Speaker 1: Jeffrey In the morning. We have a lot of texts
Speaker 1: coming in at seventy five Night two. About this second date,
Speaker 1: someone said, we absolutely have to get an update update
Speaker 1: from these two. She is the most understanding woman in
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: I know. I'm actually like, I'm worried about her. Not
Speaker 3: necessarily this relationship, but just in life. Is she gonna
Speaker 3: get taken advantage of can you live? You live open
Speaker 3: and kind?
Speaker 4: She's gonna bean a guy who's like, yeah, I murdered
Speaker 4: a bunch of people, and she's like.
Speaker 2: You sound very passionate.
Speaker 1: Another text says, it's funny Brook called the guy a
Speaker 1: scammer in the first part and by the end her
Speaker 1: heart was melting with shame. That yeah, yeah, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: Brook's heart was not melting with shame. It was melting
Speaker 1: thinking about her homeless ex boyfriends. Let's give her some
Speaker 1: credit on that.
Speaker 6: Listen, you guys, it's not that I still love them.
Speaker 6: They just it was a fun relationship.
Speaker 2: You know, we're doing well.
Speaker 6: We stayed at my house all the time.
Speaker 1: That was the only option. Alexis, maybe did you learn
Speaker 1: anything from this second date update? Anything you want to
Speaker 1: put into your own dating life?
Speaker 6: Was I supposed to No?
Speaker 1: No, never asked. Yeah. What I should be asking is
Speaker 1: if you have any issues in your love life that
Speaker 1: you want a little help with, we can be that
Speaker 1: person to step in for you.
Speaker 6: This makes me feel like we can do good things.
Speaker 2: Truly want to us.
Speaker 1: Out email the show. We'll call that person who's not
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