WEBVTT - Carrie (Derogatory) (feat. Peyton Dix - Patreon Preview)

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<v Speaker 1>Miranda, Why you got so many Twilight posters around?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I Miranda would be the spyhard of the sexilicity because

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<v Speaker 3>she's closeted.

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<v Speaker 4>She's sheen am me no.

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<v Speaker 5>Ma, not my name?

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<v Speaker 1>Yo yo?

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<v Speaker 2>What is your childhood?

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<v Speaker 1>I am a cook chook.

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<v Speaker 2>Your life's going down before us around.

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<v Speaker 4>Done, dun donna done, dun't dun't.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not gonna do that. This is This is

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<v Speaker 3>like a virgin in the show where we give yesterday's

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<v Speaker 3>pop culture today's takes. I'mra's DomU and I'm Friend Toronto

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<v Speaker 3>and we have another special guest today. You are now

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<v Speaker 3>our second PayPal prince, not PayPal.

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<v Speaker 2>You know our second.

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<v Speaker 3>You are now our second pay Well princess. Please welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to the chat. Peyton Dix so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why I expected applause and then that

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<v Speaker 5>it didn't happen. Okay, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do like PayPal Princess, though I think that's like well,

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<v Speaker 1>I who won't be that too?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I know I was nervous where that I was

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<v Speaker 5>going for a minute, but I like where you.

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<v Speaker 3>I like where it. So. The journey getting to this

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<v Speaker 3>episode is interesting because well, something that you know, casual

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<v Speaker 3>fans of yours might not know is that you're a

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<v Speaker 3>sick fuck.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is something that I know that Fran knows, that

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<v Speaker 3>anyone on your close friends list knows you were a

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<v Speaker 3>sick fuck. And the biggest example of that is that

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<v Speaker 3>you watched the entire first season event just like that,

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<v Speaker 3>without ever having seen a single episode of Sex in

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<v Speaker 3>the City. Are you ready to answer for your war crimes?

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<v Speaker 5>No, lock me up, honestly throw myselves in the back

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<v Speaker 5>to the right. I know like it is. Truly, I

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<v Speaker 5>can admit with my chest, at this grown age now

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<v Speaker 5>that it is the worst thing about me. What change was?

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<v Speaker 3>It was because you have rectified the situation after you

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<v Speaker 3>appeared at our last live show in which we forced

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<v Speaker 3>you to watch the bisexual episode of Sex and the City,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have now watched how much of the show.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm almost done with Season four.

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<v Speaker 3>Season four the second best season of Sex and the

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<v Speaker 3>City in my opinion, seasons three and four. Seasons three

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<v Speaker 3>and four are our peak Sex in the City.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you think season three is the best?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think season three, because of the big affair,

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<v Speaker 3>is the best season in Sex and the city. It

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<v Speaker 3>has the most iconic episodes. It has the fashion show.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, that's when the girl is really stepped it out

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<v Speaker 5>and stepped up, except for the flower. I'm like, every

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<v Speaker 5>if that bitch puts some motherfucking carnation or whatever on

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<v Speaker 5>one more clothing item, I was like, she will find

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<v Speaker 5>a way, She will.

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<v Speaker 3>Find Patricia Field will answer for her crimes one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Although you know, the flower thing is back, like all

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<v Speaker 3>of the TikTok fashion girls are wearing them. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>you've seen people out and about. I have a flower

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<v Speaker 3>choker sitting sitting on my dresser over there, and I

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<v Speaker 3>also believe I have a flower scrungey somewhere. Carrie, pat

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a victim.

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<v Speaker 5>You are Harry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I agree. Season three is probably the best season.

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<v Speaker 1>But like Peyton, so many people in your life love

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<v Speaker 1>sex and the city, like are obsesses, like your best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>your closest colleagues, your comrades.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the deal? What took you so long? What

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<v Speaker 2>was I will say?

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<v Speaker 5>There were guns drawn, like everyone's violence afoot? Yeah yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>you think there's not someone Hilton's over here hovering to

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<v Speaker 5>the left, movie like a knife, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Hilton is in the corner of the room with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like the gun's not loaded, but they still.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like resting in her lap, just like.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like it's like it's theatrix of it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I just felt like one of those things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>same with and I'm sure we'll have a follow up

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<v Speaker 5>on this baby, but like same of succession. It just

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<v Speaker 5>felt like one of those things that I missed and

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<v Speaker 5>never caught up on, and so I just kind of

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<v Speaker 5>and I think also girls came into my life in

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<v Speaker 5>such a big way that I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 5>will be my personality traite, Like I'm gonna skip sex

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<v Speaker 5>in the city and go to these white women instead,

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<v Speaker 5>who were gonna hold me and keep me safe.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's only room for so many white women.

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<v Speaker 2>Heart, Like come on, I went to private school. I

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<v Speaker 2>can only do some much girls. Girls is really all

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<v Speaker 2>consuming as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's like kind of fair, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can only take a little bit at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, look, you've arrived. We're so happy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like honestly, I mean, look, the virgins have already heard

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<v Speaker 1>all of our kind of like diatribes and downloads on

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<v Speaker 1>sex and the City, and I will say Sex and

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<v Speaker 1>the City is definitely top five favorite TV shows, if

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<v Speaker 1>not top five favorite entities in general, Like I will

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<v Speaker 1>always return to it as a source of truth.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you What did you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Having come out of the you know, the fourth season,

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<v Speaker 1>like do you did you have any new perspectives on

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<v Speaker 1>the show that you didn't have before?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think, like okay, generally, like generally I have a

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<v Speaker 5>very vague concepts of like who the girls were, Like

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<v Speaker 5>Samantha sucks, Carrie like slat, yeah, Carrie writer, like all

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<v Speaker 5>these like very vague you know, identifiers of these people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't really know.

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<v Speaker 5>If someone were to ask me, like who I thought

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<v Speaker 5>I was, I really would just go with Samantha because

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, I don't know, like that, I fuck,

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<v Speaker 5>I think I don't. I really don't. But you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like I watched the show and immediately was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm a Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe was like, okay, unpack that.

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<v Speaker 3>How were you a Charlotte?

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately I do agree, but let's continue, thank.

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<v Speaker 3>You, all right?

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<v Speaker 5>I think one, in general, she is such a yes

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<v Speaker 5>and girl in bed, which I love. I think like

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<v Speaker 5>she in discourse, she's not giving like you know, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm open minded on him, but in.

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<v Speaker 2>Bed she's more open.

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<v Speaker 5>The carriage, she's definitely more over than closet and Miranda,

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<v Speaker 5>which that I feel like was a the whole. Do

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<v Speaker 5>you think that they were writing Miranda knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>She was gonna be gay eventually? Because no, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, definitely not knowing she was gonna be gay,

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<v Speaker 1>but they wrote her, but they wrote her gay like

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote her.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay as fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>Gay as well. That that episode where her her colleague

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<v Speaker 3>sets her up with his lesbian friend and Miranda like

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<v Speaker 3>tries it out and like tries to use it to

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<v Speaker 3>get ahead professionally, is like, I mean, clearly they knew

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<v Speaker 3>something was up with Cynthia Nixon, but not quite to

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<v Speaker 3>the extent that the jig is up. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who else knew that Miranda was truly a

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<v Speaker 1>lesbian was Patricia Field. Because some of these looks, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna send one to the chat now, honestly, because like

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<v Speaker 1>this is like lesbian core, like giant puffer jackets.

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<v Speaker 2>There's also this amazing all.

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<v Speaker 3>The suits she wore the first and second season, which

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<v Speaker 3>was honestly, like, I'm sad it was abandoned, and I

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<v Speaker 3>really would like to see her styled more like that

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<v Speaker 3>on INNG just like that, because they keep putting her

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<v Speaker 3>in these very like crunchy Brooklyn mom outfits and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I get that that is a side of Miranda, but

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see her back in the power suit vibe.

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<v Speaker 5>But her at leisure was so good, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like that got totally left out too, which I'm like,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure an Upper East Sider has at least one

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<v Speaker 5>set of joggers, Like, come.

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<v Speaker 3>On, okay, But back to the you being Charlotte of

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<v Speaker 3>it all. So like, the thing is that Charlotte low

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<v Speaker 3>key fucks the most of all of them, And I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is maybe even mentioned in so I have.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this book released when I was in high

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<v Speaker 3>school called Sex and the City Kids Intel, and I

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<v Speaker 3>have it. It's like sitting over on my my console

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<v Speaker 3>table by my entryway, and it lists like all of

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<v Speaker 3>the boyfriends that all of them had. And I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that Charlotte had the most boyfriends because Charlotte was

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<v Speaker 3>the one who was most actively auking for a husband

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<v Speaker 3>and so went on the most dates and had the

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<v Speaker 3>most sex and had freak your sex. Yes, then most

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<v Speaker 3>of them. I mean, because you know, we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>before that Carrie is a horrible sex columnist. She's such

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<v Speaker 3>a big rude ever. And Charlotte was like out here

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<v Speaker 3>fucking and sucking getting called you fucking bitch, you fucking horror.

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<v Speaker 3>She was getting she was like she at some point

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<v Speaker 3>she says that she rims tray.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wait, I forgot her a minute. Wait she rimmed trey.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, she and she goes, she goes, we're married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that is that is the tea. Yeah, no, Charlotte

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<v Speaker 2>actually was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, honestly so I listened to the and

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<v Speaker 1>just like that podcast, the recap pod Dark very It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so good and that's sorry, it's so good. And

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<v Speaker 1>they do talk about how Charlotte is like high key,

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<v Speaker 1>low key, like one of the horn like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the freak in bed and the one that is like

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<v Speaker 1>often shown having a lot more sex than like the

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<v Speaker 1>other girls, even though she is the most prudish. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is something that they've done with

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<v Speaker 1>all the characters, is that they create this dichotomy. They

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<v Speaker 1>create it's like light side dark side, or like inside

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<v Speaker 1>outside kind of version of the character. And they're like

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<v Speaker 1>two extremes. It's like I'm a prude, I'm a freak,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's like Miranda where she's like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>feelings and I hate all of you, and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>actually I'm very lonely and I need people. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that. I think the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>both of these all four characters like vac late between

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<v Speaker 1>extremes is like why we love them, and it's why

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<v Speaker 1>we're always like, I am a Carrie. I am you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, well I am a Carry But it's not something.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good thing. I wish I was. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a Carrie derogatory exactly Carrie is. I was. I was

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<v Speaker 3>watching Sex and City last night. I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 3>to prepare for this, but it was really just because

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to, and it was. And it was the

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<v Speaker 3>the opening episode of season two where Carrie is getting

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<v Speaker 3>over her breakup with Big and she goes out with

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<v Speaker 3>the New Yankee and then like such a best the

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<v Speaker 3>best rebound ever, and she has this amazing moment where

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<v Speaker 3>her pictures in page six with the New Yankee, she

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<v Speaker 3>runs into Big at the bar. It like the best

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<v Speaker 3>revenge you could get on an X And yet when

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<v Speaker 3>the New Yankee kisses her, she cries into his mouth

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<v Speaker 3>and breaks up with him. I'm so mad at her.

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<v Speaker 3>She fumbled way the New Yankee, and I am, Oh, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always mad at Carrie. She makes the worst decisions

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<v Speaker 3>and is so annoying, and yet I am her.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we think have we? Who among us? Have any

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<v Speaker 1>of us ever like like gotten ready for a comeback?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're like, oh, this is it? Like I'm rebounding

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<v Speaker 1>finally hard, I'm gonna be a slut, And then you

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<v Speaker 1>get there and you just totally boof it, like because

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<v Speaker 1>of like emotional baggage.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm currently in that era. That's funny that I mentioned.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm living that truth right now. That's so funny. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>like begging for the streets to call me.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not. I'm like, they're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me turn this sound on just in case it's not. Like,

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<v Speaker 5>but I feel like and I also want to ask

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<v Speaker 5>really quickly, are we pro aiding or pro big?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is this is I have discovered is an

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<v Speaker 3>unpopular opinion. But I am team Maiden. I know I

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<v Speaker 3>know that he sucks and that he wants to change Carrie.

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<v Speaker 3>He made her quit smoking, but smoking is disgusting. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he's hot and I think he's He's the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of man that I personally would date. And I get

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<v Speaker 3>it with Big, like they're like soulmates. Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Big, No, I'm not bigs. He was

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<v Speaker 3>so awful to her. What do you think? What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think, Peyton, Because you're not fully through the series,

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<v Speaker 3>so you don't see all the ways in which Big

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<v Speaker 3>will let carry down. Before you know he eventually dies

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<v Speaker 3>while riding a peloton. But what do you think? So far?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so far?

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<v Speaker 5>And like we are holding room for opinions to change.

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<v Speaker 5>But basically the things that I've seen are nervous. There

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<v Speaker 5>was this tweet that was like men are like if

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<v Speaker 5>a butcher was pathetic, and that's what I feel about Aiden.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like boom.

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<v Speaker 3>Like tomato, tomato, tomato.

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<v Speaker 5>Tomato, tomato, tomato. I am like this want to be lesbian?

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<v Speaker 5>Asked like I cannot deal with his carpenter Jesus Christ self.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he is objectively sexy, and I can respect

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<v Speaker 5>an honor that I always can. I'll leave room for

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<v Speaker 5>someone being hot, but like I just find and maybe

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<v Speaker 5>this is my own thing to work out with my

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<v Speaker 5>therapist after this call, but like I am just so

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<v Speaker 5>much more into their dynamic. With her dynamic was Big,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, like he is just sexy as a fuck,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm like, I don't he I'm at the part

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<v Speaker 5>actually just for this an episode where he and I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, Okay, how do I forgive this one? Because

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<v Speaker 5>or not even forgive this one. He's fucked up so

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<v Speaker 5>many times even to this point. But he's like about

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<v Speaker 5>to leave New York and he does and tell her

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<v Speaker 5>and she's like, happens to call?

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<v Speaker 3>That episode is iconic. iHeart New York is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the best episodes of the series when she goes over

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<v Speaker 3>with the pizza and they dance to me River, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god, Oh but you're about to enter season five,

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<v Speaker 3>which is one of my least favorite seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I okay, I have to say, like what Phoebe

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<v Speaker 1>said in the chat, I was so happy when Big

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<v Speaker 1>finally died, totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Agree, Like was not my tea.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand people that are so like like Big

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<v Speaker 1>was the one, like he was so perfect, he was

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<v Speaker 1>so stable, Like I.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he loves carry at the Altar.

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<v Speaker 2>At the altar.

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<v Speaker 1>If he if I had to pick between Aiden and Big,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picking Aiden every time, of course, but I of course,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had to pick, if I were to say

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<v Speaker 1>the one who was the one that got away, it

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<v Speaker 1>is John Slattery's character because Pian Yes a politician.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, grow grow We're a sex columnist. Drink pee, drink pee.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone listening to this podcast, go home and drink piss

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