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Speaker 1: Welcome back in here to Clay and Buck. So we've

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Speaker 1: got much discussed here, and the situation of the TSA lines,

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Speaker 1: for example, something I want to get into a bit.

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Speaker 1: But you'll notice these Democrats, they they pretend that they

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Speaker 1: care so much about federal government employees when it suits them,

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Speaker 1: but the moment that they are a political hindrance or

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Speaker 1: to throw them under the bus as fast as possible.

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Speaker 1: Zoron Mamdani, who is the mayor of New York City.

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Speaker 1: We are back to and this was a way that

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Speaker 1: AOC used to get a lot of attention. But we

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Speaker 1: are back to the old abolish ice routine, which was

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen's big I think it was twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: that was the big talking point if you remember kids

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Speaker 1: in cages. In fact, the former Biden Energy secretary shouted

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Speaker 1: at me out of nowhere, kids in cages, Kids in

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Speaker 1: cages when I was on the Bill marshow as like

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Speaker 1: a argument ender. It's like, oh my gosh, kids are

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Speaker 1: you know. Jennifer Granholm not a very bright woman cabinet

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Speaker 1: member under Biden, if I recall, but kids in cages

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Speaker 1: was the thing and AOC you will all recall, remember

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Speaker 1: this Clay, she was at the fence. Oh yeah, wearing

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Speaker 1: a white oh yeah, periods. Oh my god, it's the

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Speaker 1: saddest thing I've ever seen. Uh yeah. Zorn Mamdani has

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Speaker 1: now picked up that left wing Soros radical race commie

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Speaker 1: internationalist no borders routine, and here he is saying that ICE,

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Speaker 1: guess what this is? Cut nine, ICE should be abolished.

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Speaker 2: For making clear that no one is above the law

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Speaker 2: in this city, that everyone has to follow the rule

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Speaker 2: of it. And I have made clear to the President,

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Speaker 2: both in our private conversations and our public conversations about

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Speaker 2: the fact that I believe that ICE is a rogue agency.

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Speaker 3: It's a reckless one.

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Speaker 2: It's one that delivers nothing towards the furthering of the

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Speaker 2: cause of public safety. And I've also been public about

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Speaker 2: my belief that HECE is an entity that should be abolished,

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Speaker 2: and that is critically important in our city where we've

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Speaker 2: seen too many New Yorkers living in fear of even

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Speaker 2: going to what would otherwise be routine immigration check ins.

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Speaker 1: Abolish ICE, I mean, so we won't have an enforcement arm. Clay,

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Speaker 1: So why do we have federal laws? Why not tell

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Speaker 1: Congress that they should pass a no one is barred

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Speaker 1: from America law. I think that would make it harder, though,

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Speaker 1: for them to collect taxes from those of us who

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Speaker 1: are already here and who are citizens. I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be harder to get people to fight in your

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Speaker 1: wars if anyone can come, stay as long as they

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Speaker 4: I think this is the question that if we had

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Speaker 4: an honest media, would get asked. We had Tom Homan

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Speaker 4: on this week, and Tom Homan has told us before

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Speaker 4: that he thinks the number of illegal immigrants when he

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Speaker 1: To have in this country, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think almost everyone listening to us right

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Speaker 4: now would say that that's too many. What should the

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Speaker 4: through a legal process. Okay, what is the number that

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Speaker 3: For?

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Speaker 4: Zora on Mandani? I would love to have Mamdani right.

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Speaker 4: New York City's budget is broken to a large extent

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Speaker 4: because of the choices that they are making when it

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Speaker 4: comes to housing illegal immigrants. Many of you, as you

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Speaker 4: going to see The Lost Boys, like producer Ali on Broadway,

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Speaker 4: and you will be stunned by what hotel rooms cost

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Speaker 4: I believe Ali, what if my room costs seven hundred

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Speaker 4: This is a random Hilton, like a Hilton offshoot. I

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Speaker 4: That's how tiny an eight hundred dollars a night hotel

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Speaker 4: why is that happening? Because they were putting so many

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Speaker 4: an interesting discussion as well. And as a result, normal

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Speaker 4: don't know where this goes. I honestly don't know where

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Speaker 1: And so the whole Democrat party.

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Speaker 4: I was watching this morning as I was getting ready

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Speaker 4: gone super viral of course everywhere. Yeah, everyone has seen this.

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Speaker 4: There was a great clip on my feed this morning

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Speaker 1: All I remember Bill Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton were a

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, the border is wide open this is a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: You go down the line, Democrats all this is how

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Speaker 1: they you cauld Clay, this is how we got to

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Speaker 1: New York Times editorial board not an editorial writer in

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration, particularly in areas where there are concentrations of

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Speaker 1: illegal immigrants. Particularly suppressed is the wages of black Americans.

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Speaker 1: That was the New York Times in two thousand. They

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Speaker 1: were saying, there is a disproportionate impact from illegals on

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Speaker 1: do everything else. And the New York Times is saying,

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Speaker 1: They're not going to be deported Clay, even if they're

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Speaker 4: Well, and again I just come back to they break budgets.

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Speaker 4: They largely, especially depending on what country they're from, but

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Speaker 4: many of them do not embrace Western civilizational values. They

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Speaker 4: are not overall assets to the country. And again, if

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Speaker 4: legal migration rate should be in the country, that's a

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Speaker 4: really interesting question. Right if we go truly and are

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Speaker 4: Eighty percent of Somali immigrants, these are legal immigrants in Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: eighty percent of them immediately go on welfare. And we're

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Speaker 4: talking multi generational eighty percent. How does that in any

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Speaker 4: immediately go on welfare. That's a sign that our immigration

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Speaker 1: You have to remember, though, what the propaganda has been

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Speaker 4: And also, by the way, that their rate of violent

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Speaker 1: Also, they've tried to convince the American people that the

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Speaker 4: President Trump speaking at the White House right now with

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Speaker 4: Remember President Trump a lot of flurry of activity yesterday

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Speaker 4: as it pertains to TSA. President Trump said he would

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty eight, and I have this. One's not

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Speaker 4: So Kamala and Gavin Newsom have been squaring off in public,

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Speaker 7: One of the great disappointments, one of the great innovators

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Speaker 1: He means own goal, right, he keeps I I think

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Speaker 4: saying own goal. For those of you who don't know,

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Speaker 4: I thought this was interesting Buck Joe Rogan simultaneously making

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of you.

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Speaker 9: That's people, that's the Internet. That is an accurate representation,

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I do think I think he's right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: Strong agree on that first part. It has enormously benefited actual,

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Speaker 1: meaningful free speech for Elon. I can't say it enough.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to create some digital lynch mob that's

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent correct, and I think Elon deserves

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Speaker 10: Told you in her book.

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Speaker 4: They really do you believe that they do not like

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Speaker 4: then he clearly can't care about Kamala Harris at all. Right,

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Speaker 4: I think my father in law take was a strong take,

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Speaker 4: and I think no question in my mind. Same thing

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Speaker 4: with Kamala Gavin Newsom. Gavin Newsam, his brain operates like

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Speaker 4: a reptile brain. Is it too hot or too cold?

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Speaker 1: Where I am? I need food? You know, he's pure?

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Speaker 1: What is it the amigdala? He's pure amigdala. Whatever is

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Speaker 1: in his immediate benefit and meets his immediate needs is

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Speaker 1: where Gavin Newsom will go. So if Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 1: in his way, she's the enemy. If Kamala Harris being

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Speaker 1: friends with her makes him look more pro women, particularly

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Speaker 1: pro minority women, oh you know, whatever, we could sketch

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Speaker 1: all this out, then he is very pro Kamala. But

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Speaker 1: personal feelings, I don't know if he's even capable of

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Speaker 1: personal feelings.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like you mentioned a pet alligator. It's like,

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Speaker 1: can an alligator ever love you? I don't know. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure. We'd have to talk to some people that

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Speaker 1: have really handled reptiles a lot. Can a reptile feel

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Speaker 1: affection for you the way that a mammal can? I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. I never even really thought about

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Speaker 4: how much reptile way.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of people came for me on the

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Speaker 1: pit bull take. A lot of people because I think

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Speaker 1: it's a pretty nuanced take. Actually I'm not anti pitbull.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you need to you know, you're carrying around

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Speaker 1: a load of day or fifteen, you're not carrying a

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Speaker 1: BB gun. I got like five to one people agree

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Speaker 1: with me, which I was a little surprised. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: just a confirmation bias for some reason in my inbox,

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Speaker 1: But that was the not you know again, because I

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Speaker 1: know that there are sweet dogs of every breed, but

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Speaker 1: some dogs are bigger problems than others.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a good analogy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: a BB gun versus an AR fifteen one can do

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Speaker 4: more damage. I mean, you can make it kind of

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Speaker 4: for any context, right, like a big wheel. You don't

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Speaker 4: have to be as worried about running into a wall

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Speaker 4: as you would if you're driving a Ferrari. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, there are just different rates of speed that

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Speaker 4: lead to different dangers.

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Speaker 1: I take people to the range. I take first time

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Speaker 1: as the range. I'm not good enough to like I

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Speaker 1: have friends who are competition shooters and all that, but

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Speaker 1: I'm very solid now at taking people on license to

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Speaker 1: do it here, taking people to the range and giving

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Speaker 1: them like a first range day experience if they've really

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Speaker 1: never shot before. And I can just tell you if

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Speaker 1: I have somebody with a bold action twenty two on

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Speaker 1: someone's like a you know, and they're teenage years are

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Speaker 1: there with dad. I've taken a teenage friend of mine

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Speaker 1: with his dad. You know, they've you'll get the twenty

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Speaker 1: two going. You're like, okay, you know you gotta be

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Speaker 1: on target all that. You could still die from a

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Speaker 1: twenty two, right, It's not that. But if I take

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Speaker 1: somebody because I have had friends with FFLs who have

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Speaker 1: fully automatic weapons, and I put them on the line,

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Speaker 1: with a squad automatic weapon clay, which fires at a

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Speaker 1: very rapid rate of speed full auto. It has a

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Speaker 1: lot more movement and everything else, I'm paying closer attention,

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Speaker 1: you know.

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Speaker 11: What I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll even say that both of those are

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Speaker 1: lethal situations in the sense you have to be careful.

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Speaker 1: These are both firearms, but one firearm you really gotta

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Speaker 1: pay attention, right, And that's how I viewed the dog thing.

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Speaker 1: Not to get into the dog conversation, but I think

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Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom is not even a K nine. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a reptile. I have brought this full circle. Whatever

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Speaker 1: whatever brings him lunch that day is what he wants,

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Speaker 1: that's all He can.

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Speaker 4: Really got me thinking about whether reptiles can be loving. Now,

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Speaker 4: I never really had thought about it, But is there

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Speaker 4: a reptile that is supremely lovable cuddly?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think. I think that their

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Speaker 1: brains are not capable of that level of connection, is

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Speaker 1: my thought. But we probably have people who are gonna say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I had a pet gecko. Pet birds can

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Speaker 1: definitely bond with the birds are way smarter than a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. Like the whole notion of bird brain.

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Speaker 1: Crows are freakishly smart. I mean, there are there are

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Speaker 1: bird there are grey African gray parrots. Some of these

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Speaker 1: pets that people have can last. These pet birds can

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Speaker 1: last forty fifty years, and they know people, and they

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Speaker 1: have favorites and people they don't like. So birds definitely

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Speaker 1: can bond very tightly with people. I don't think. I

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Speaker 1: don't think reptiles can. Hey, if any of reptile owners

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Speaker 1: want to want to let me in on this or

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Speaker 1: let me know, I will say the alligator whisper that

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Speaker 1: I that I went out with here though the alligators

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Speaker 1: knew him, and they came out and were very kind

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Speaker 1: of curious about him in a way that seemed like

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Speaker 1: they recognized him. So would a turtle be able to

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Speaker 1: have love? I don't know. That's a real question on

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Speaker 1: the clay buche. I mean, we're trying to fix the

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Speaker 1: Iran war and the economy. But also really.

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Speaker 4: Got me thinking, like I've never really thought through, can

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Speaker 4: reptiles love their owners? We were vacant joke yesterday about

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Speaker 4: you know, somebody who raises let's say, an alligator from

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Speaker 4: you know, the time when it's a baby until the

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Speaker 4: time I mean, I think they can have familiarity, but

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Speaker 4: you know, a dog or a cat.

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Speaker 1: I think they.

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Speaker 4: Would be capable of loving an owner dogs more than cats.

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Speaker 4: But sorry, cat people. It is a really good question.

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Speaker 4: Dmitri in Houston. Let me try to get a call

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Speaker 4: in here before we finish the segment. Dmitri, what you

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Speaker 4: got for us.

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Speaker 3: You guys quick.

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Speaker 12: The Democrats will fight to the nail to integrate this

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Speaker 12: twenty million or twenty five illegal legal or illegal or

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Speaker 12: migrants digitally. They're going to try to integrate them into

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Speaker 12: our society because everything is vigital for bank account for

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Speaker 12: direct payments. Even Western Union implemented the stable coin as

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Speaker 12: a choice of digital currency transactions black chain. They're going

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Speaker 12: to argue that, hey, we're going to need to collect

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Speaker 12: fight to taxes, so let's put them under the payroll

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Speaker 12: where they're going to need to pay for sources security.

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Speaker 12: They'll open four one case. They will contribute to the

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Speaker 12: tax payment system, disability insurance, source security. They're going to

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Speaker 12: come up one hundred different excuses. But if you do

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Speaker 12: the statistics, it takes about six years to have four

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Speaker 12: million people born in the United States and another eighteen

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Speaker 12: to become legally capable to vote, So instead of them

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Speaker 12: waiting five years plus eighteen, they're going to have one

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Speaker 12: shot of twenty million people injected into the system, and

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Speaker 12: that's their voting base. So that's the platform they're running.

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Speaker 12: They're going to need that voting base because everyone is

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Speaker 12: abandoning their their ideology.

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Speaker 1: I think you're pay for the call, Dimitri. I think

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Speaker 1: you're a hundred percent right.

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Speaker 4: Look, the one way to think about this is I

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Speaker 4: think Democrats let in all of these illegals almost as

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Speaker 4: sleeper cell citizens because they're here, and at some point

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Speaker 4: in time, having created this mess, they're gonna say, Democrats

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Speaker 4: are we can't have twenty million constant people living here

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Speaker 4: who are not citizens. We have to give them all

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Speaker 4: a pathway to citizenship, a form of amnesty. And so

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Speaker 4: they are being incredibly duplicitous long term in terms of

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Speaker 4: what arguments they are making, with the idea being at

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Speaker 4: some point when the political world is more favorable to

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Speaker 4: the argument, they're gonna flip the switch and say these

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Speaker 4: people all need to be citizens, and they see it

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Speaker 4: as an opportunity to bring in additional millions of voters.

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Speaker 4: I think the metries right, I don't think there's any

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Speaker 4: doubt at all about that.

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Speaker 1: Look, we were talking about alligators a minute ago, and

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Speaker 1: you probably don't have a pet alligator. You might not

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Speaker 1: Welcome in Everybody, third hour of the Clay Travis en

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton Show. Get's going right now. We are joined

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Speaker 1: by the Florida State Attorney General James Outhmeier, A g

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Speaker 1: Uthmeyer Attorney General. Appreciate you making time for us today

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Speaker 1: from the great state of Florida, my home state. Love

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Speaker 1: this place, love the way that this whole state is trending.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for all your work on the law enforcement side.

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Speaker 1: Clay has some specific questions we want to get to

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Speaker 1: here in a second. I just wanted to know talk

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Speaker 1: to me about some of the the trends, the top priorities.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing from a law enforcement perspective onunder

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Speaker 1: your tenure here in Florida, because it feels like the

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Speaker 1: state is overall really really cooking.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, we're look, we're prosecuting, we're enforcing law and order,

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Speaker 13: we're putting bad guys away, and our crime rates continue

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Speaker 13: to go way, way down. You know, when I took office,

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Speaker 13: Florida was already at record crime lows, but the topic

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Speaker 13: of fentanyl was coming up every time I talked to sheriffs.

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Speaker 13: It was surging in the communities across the state. Now,

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Speaker 13: just over a year later, our fentyl death rate is

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Speaker 13: down our thirty five percent, our fentanyl cases are down

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Speaker 13: almost sixty percent. Crime continues to plummet because we figured

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Speaker 13: it out here. We support law enforcement, we give them

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Speaker 13: the tools to be successful. We support the federal government

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Speaker 13: with their efforts, especially on illegal immigration. It's not hard,

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Speaker 13: it's not rocket science. You enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: James, appreciate you coming on with us.

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Speaker 4: I think the last time we saw you was at

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Speaker 4: the Indiana Miami game, the national title. Buck's only college

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Speaker 4: football game of the year, so not a bad one

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Speaker 4: to go to. But a lot of the guys that

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Speaker 4: were playing on the field there are going to aspire

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Speaker 4: to go into the NFL one day. And one of

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Speaker 4: the NFL's signature, I would say, sort of social compacts

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Speaker 4: has been the Rooney rule. And for people who don't

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Speaker 4: know out there, you can kind of dive into the

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Speaker 4: Rooney Rule a bit, but I'll give a kind of

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Speaker 4: a rough approximation here. Basically, the NFL requires that minorities

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Speaker 4: be interviewed before new coaches can be hired, and that

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Speaker 4: rule has been in place for around twenty years. There

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Speaker 4: are three NFL teams in the state of Florida, one

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Speaker 4: in Tampa Bay, one in Jacksonville, one in Miami. As

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Speaker 4: most of our listeners would know, and you have now

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Speaker 4: issued guidance that the Rooney Rule potentially is going to

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Speaker 4: be violating the Florida civil rights statutes. Explain for us

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Speaker 4: why that's significant and what your letter said.

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Speaker 3: Sure.

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Speaker 13: Well, the rule, which has been around for a good

657
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Speaker 13: little while, it requires NFL teams to interview a number

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Speaker 13: of minority candidates before.

659
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Speaker 3: Hiring non minority candidates.

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Speaker 13: It requires some assistant coaching positions to be filled by

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Speaker 13: minorities or women.

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Speaker 3: It actually goes so far as to say, if you.

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Speaker 13: Have minorities, you know that advance into higher coaching positions

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Speaker 13: from your staff. There's a scenario where you can be

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Speaker 13: awarded additional draft picks. So teams are clearly required to

666
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Speaker 13: violate Florida law. We have a civil rights Act that's

667
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Speaker 13: been on the books for decades. You cannot discriminate against

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Speaker 13: people based on the color of their skin, based on

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Speaker 13: race when it comes.

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Speaker 3: To hiring and advancement.

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Speaker 13: You know, a lot of states are looking at DEI

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Speaker 13: and the problems associated with it.

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Speaker 3: Some states are passing new laws, but.

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Speaker 13: The reality is we don't really need to most every

675
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Speaker 13: state has a long standing soil Rights Act. I think

676
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Speaker 13: the Civil rights movement did some wonderful things to ensure

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Speaker 13: the rights the benefits of our constitution are being afforded

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Speaker 13: to all people equally. And today, you know, we've seen

679
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Speaker 13: the pendulum swings so far where people are being discriminated

680
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Speaker 13: against because they're white. So look fans at home, they're not,

681
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Speaker 13: you know, wanting teams to hire people based on color.

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Speaker 3: They care about the.

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Speaker 13: Color of the jersey of their team. They want to

684
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Speaker 13: see their team win. They don't care what race is winning.

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Speaker 13: They want to see people, you know, hired and promoted

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Speaker 13: based on merit.

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Speaker 4: So what do you expect to happen based on this letter?

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I think you're one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: right on the law. I've been one of the few

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Speaker 4: people who's been pointing out for some time that This

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Speaker 4: flies in the face of I think not only a

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Speaker 4: lot of state law, but federal law. Given that roughly

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Speaker 4: a third of NFL teams are based in the state

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Speaker 4: of Florida. What's the what have you asked the NFL

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Speaker 4: to do, and what do you anticipate going forward?

696
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Speaker 13: The NFL to get back to me by May one,

697
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Speaker 13: so a little over a month away, and confirm that

698
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Speaker 13: they're going to remove this rule, remove these requirements that

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Speaker 13: are unlawful here in Florida and I believe many other states.

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Speaker 13: And if they don't do it, then you know, we'll.

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Speaker 3: Pursue formal legal action in court.

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Speaker 13: But I'm a big believer in trying to work things out,

703
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Speaker 13: talk things out. Hopefully they'll do a deep dive and

704
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 13: realize that their policy is indeed illegal. And look, you know,

705
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Speaker 13: if minorities are getting jobs and doing well, performing well,

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Speaker 13: I am all for it.

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Speaker 3: I could not be happier.

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Speaker 13: But what does this rule say to to minority candidates

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Speaker 13: that are getting jobs on merit? How do they know

710
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Speaker 13: if they're being hired and advanced because they deserve it

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Speaker 13: and not because of some other legal technicality.

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Speaker 3: So when I took.

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Speaker 13: This job, I told my team We're going to do

714
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Speaker 13: the right thing no matter what.

715
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Speaker 3: We're going to do the right.

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Speaker 13: Thing, even if it brings negative press and costs of something.

717
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Speaker 13: And this is one of one of those examples where

718
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Speaker 13: this violates the law and we've got to do the

719
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Speaker 13: right thing.

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Speaker 1: Speaking to Florida Attorney General Uth Meyer, and mister Attorney General,

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Speaker 1: you have obviously been involved with the Alligator Alcatraz situation

722
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Speaker 1: here in this state. It's got a lot of national attension.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it. What is the status of that

724
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Speaker 1: detention facility and how would you say the cooperation level

725
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Speaker 1: is going with federal authorities for lawful deportations to be

726
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Speaker 1: occurring at the pace that the administration is seeking.

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Speaker 13: Well, Alligator Alcatraz is still up and running. You know,

728
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Speaker 13: the media doesn't talk about it anymore after they, you know,

729
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Speaker 13: helped incentivize and promote a bunch of sham lawsuits that

730
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Speaker 13: were all struck down. So it's been operating every day.

731
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Speaker 13: Never never once was closed down despite some reports. And

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Speaker 13: I'll tell you, you know, I understand the name. It

733
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Speaker 13: gets some attention, it gets a chuckle, but the reality

734
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Speaker 13: is the location was important money on some new perimeter.

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Speaker 13: This thirty two square mile of runway, which is a

736
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Speaker 13: non public use airport for law enforcement training. It was

737
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Speaker 13: abandoned for commercial use back in the sixties or seventies.

738
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Speaker 13: It's got a two and a half mile runway. So

739
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Speaker 13: when it comes to deportation flights, people can get busted there.

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Speaker 13: You know, they can't really escape. If they do, there's

741
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Speaker 13: nowhere to go, and then there's an easy one way

742
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Speaker 13: out flight to get them back to where they came from.

743
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Speaker 13: I'll tell you, I've looked at the roster of people

744
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Speaker 13: that have been housed there going back to the beginning,

745
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Speaker 13: and a lot of these people they served time or

746
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Speaker 13: were charged with some of the most heinous offenses murder,

747
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Speaker 13: attempted murder, sexual assault, abuse of children. The media never

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Speaker 13: talked about that. They acted like this place was inhumane,

749
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Speaker 13: but they did not highlight, you know, the victims out

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Speaker 13: there that suffered greatly at the hands of some of

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Speaker 13: these people that never should have been.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned that the overall is like Minnesota here.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned that the overall crime rates have been declining

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Speaker 4: precipitously in Florida, and I know we have a lot

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Speaker 4: of Floridians who would be very happy with that. Where

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Speaker 4: can you do better? Are there parts of the state

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Speaker 4: that still have too high of a crime rate? How

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Speaker 4: much we've talked to Memphis, for example, where I live

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Speaker 4: in Tennessee. The mayor of Memphis has been somewhat willing

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Speaker 4: to work with the Trump administration. How much your Democrat

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Speaker 4: mayors fighting you on some of these things. Where do

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Speaker 4: you think the state of Florida can still improve when

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Speaker 4: it comes to trying to tamp down on a crime.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 13: Our crime rates are not where they should be in

766
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Speaker 13: areas like Broward County, Orange County, that's Orlando, And these

767
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Speaker 13: are areas where we have Democrat officials in charge.

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Speaker 3: They just they do not take it seriously.

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Speaker 13: We had a prosecutor in Orlando who manipulated to let

770
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Speaker 13: a guy who attempted to murder somebody out on probation.

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Speaker 13: Only we're shortly thereafter he shot and killed three tourists

772
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Speaker 13: at Disney just a couple months ago. This stuff cannot happen.

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Speaker 13: We're fighting this epidemic across the country. We need to

774
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Speaker 13: lock bad people up for a while. A one area

775
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Speaker 13: in Florida. We still have to address human trafficking is

776
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Speaker 13: a big deal, especially in South Florida. It's the third

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Speaker 13: highest trafficked area in the country because of the wealth,

778
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Speaker 13: the international presence, the entertainment. So I've made it a

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Speaker 13: big initiative working with our prosecutors and local law enforcement there,

780
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Speaker 13: going into World Cup, FIFA, going into F one, We're

781
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Speaker 13: going to be all hands on deck to stop this

782
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Speaker 13: predatory practice that's very, very criminal.

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Speaker 1: Is there any specific outreach or connectivity with the Trump

784
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Speaker 1: White House on you know, you haven't had the situation

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Speaker 1: of national focus that say DC has had, or we

786
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Speaker 1: mentioned Memphis before, and I know we're talking statewide now

787
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Speaker 1: with Florida, but with any city here, it hasn't come

788
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Speaker 1: up in that conversation of there's an emergency like a Memphis,

789
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Speaker 1: like a Chicago, like DC, of persistent crime numbers that

790
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Speaker 1: are too high and don't come down. But is there

791
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Speaker 1: some federal working with you or working with state authorities

792
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Speaker 1: to help an area like Orlando, for example, or are

793
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Speaker 1: those resources not really needed at this point the way

794
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Speaker 1: they are in some of those other cities.

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Speaker 13: Now, this federal government has been fantastic, everything from the

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Speaker 13: FBI to Homeland Security to the marshals. You know, We've

797
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Speaker 13: rescued almost four hundred missing kids in the last year,

798
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Speaker 13: and the US Marshals have been a fantastic partner in

799
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Speaker 13: that operation. You know, we had some cases where we

800
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Speaker 13: were not getting help under the Biden administration. We had

801
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Speaker 13: a trafficking case where a guy had molested in traffic

802
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Speaker 13: children and we couldn't get DJ under Biden to take

803
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Speaker 13: it so seriously, and within a year we've locked somebody

804
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Speaker 13: up for the rest of his life because we had

805
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Speaker 13: a federal government that shared evidence and supported us, and

806
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Speaker 13: that that example is not isolated.

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Speaker 3: It goes across the board, so we take advantage of it.

808
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Speaker 3: We're very blessed.

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Speaker 1: James.

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Speaker 4: There is a video, and I know you may not

811
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Speaker 4: want to comment on a specific case, but I'm sure

812
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Speaker 4: that your team has seen it of a famous online

813
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Speaker 4: influencer shooting alligators allegedly.

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Speaker 1: What is the rule on something like that?

815
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Speaker 4: And how often nowadays do people begin to investigate crimes

816
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Speaker 4: sometimes maybe even it's often based on social media posts.

817
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Speaker 13: Yeah, well, look in that case, what I'll say is,

818
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Speaker 13: I know local law enforcement is already engaged.

819
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Speaker 3: They were right away.

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Speaker 13: The Fish and Wildlife Commission has certainly seen the video

821
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Speaker 13: and is investigating as well. You know, the head of

822
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Speaker 13: my commun education's team, Jeremy, he told me I need

823
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Speaker 13: to go in and announce that I recommend against criminal

824
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Speaker 13: maxing in Florida. And I don't even know what that means,

825
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Speaker 13: which means I'm not as plugged into.

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Speaker 3: The social media spear as some.

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Speaker 13: But the reality is when when you want to do

828
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Speaker 13: stupid things to get attention, you know, if you break

829
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Speaker 13: the law here in Florida, there's no exception for influencers

830
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Speaker 13: or public media specialists. You break the law, you're going

831
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Speaker 13: to pay for it. So we're going to look at

832
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Speaker 13: this and if there's criminal activity, which you know seems

833
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Speaker 13: somewhat apparent based on first glance, there will be serious repercussions.

834
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Speaker 1: Just to follow up on Clay's question, shooting it and

835
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Speaker 1: I know it's allegations video outside of the facts of

836
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Speaker 1: that case that everyone can see that everyone seen the

837
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Speaker 1: videos online. Just as a matter of law, shooting an

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Speaker 1: alligator is very much illegal in this state, right.

839
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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, we've got licensing programs for alligators and

840
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Speaker 13: turkeys and deer and you know, anything you want to

841
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Speaker 13: go on hunt. You can't just go out and start

842
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Speaker 13: shooting animals, shooting alligators without the proper tags.

843
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Speaker 3: So yes, it is a cross right, Yeah.

844
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Speaker 1: I didn't know you.

845
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Speaker 4: This is much less serious than that. I didn't realize

846
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Speaker 4: you were a national champion Florida Gator athlete. My team

847
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: just told me about this that you ran for the

848
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Speaker 4: Florida Gators. What did you think of the loss to

849
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Speaker 4: Iowa for the defending Florida Gator national champs? And what

850
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Speaker 4: do you think of the new football high or Buck's

851
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: wife is a Florida Gator grad as well. What can

852
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Speaker 4: you tell us, as a former athlete with the Gators

853
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Speaker 4: about the status and stature of the Florida Gator athletic

854
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Speaker 4: programs right now?

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Speaker 13: Well, our our athletic program is always one of, if

856
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 13: not the best, in the country. We get the All

857
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Speaker 13: Sports awards very frequently, you know, the lesser known sports,

858
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Speaker 13: you know, tennis, lacrosse, baseball, distance running, track. You know,

859
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Speaker 13: we've always had top national teams. The football team it's

860
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Speaker 13: you know, it's had its struggles of late. You know,

861
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Speaker 13: I was there for the whole t bow era and

862
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Speaker 13: it seems like yesterday, but I guess I'm getting older. Uh, well,

863
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 13: we'll be back one way or another. The basketball loss

864
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Speaker 13: was heartbreaking. You know, I do think that team had

865
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Speaker 13: even more talent than the team the year before, and

866
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Speaker 13: you know, in the March madness, things have to drop

867
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Speaker 13: your way. And you know, we didn't get some of

868
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Speaker 13: the lucky bounces, some of the penalty calls.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have the hoops dropping where we needed them.

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Speaker 13: But I think a lot of that team is going

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Speaker 13: to be back, So I'm very optimistic.

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Speaker 3: I think we've got a good coach, a good team.

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Speaker 3: We'll be ready for next year.

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Speaker 4: You are also endorsed by Trump and on the ballot

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Speaker 4: this year. For people who don't know, how can they

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Speaker 4: go find out about your race and uh and support

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Speaker 4: you because I think you've done a really good job.

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Speaker 13: Well, I appreciate it people. You know, people hopefully are

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Speaker 13: seeing me out there. I've done the job as much

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Speaker 13: as I can. You know, as a longtime staffer that

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Speaker 13: focused on policy, See, it was an honor to be

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Speaker 13: Governor Desanti's chief of staff for almost four years and

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Speaker 13: to be part of the you know, the great policies

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Speaker 13: on public safety, education, school choice, you name it over

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Speaker 13: the last few years. It's it's weird now to be

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Speaker 13: a candidate and beforeward facing but I'm out there fighting

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Speaker 13: the fight.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to support law enforcement.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to do everything I can to put bad

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Speaker 13: guys away the people at home.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully you know have seen that or we'll see it.

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Speaker 13: If you want to learn more, you can visit James

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Speaker 13: forfl dot com. I'm on social media everywhere. I love

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Speaker 13: good ideas. If there's a wrong we need to address

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Speaker 13: in Florida, I'm ready to do it, no matter who

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Speaker 13: it's going to take off.

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Speaker 3: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I live here and you've done a great job as

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Speaker 1: Attorney General for the years that I've lived here, mister A.

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Speaker 1: G uth Meyer. So thank you so much. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being with us. All right, I take speech that high five. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he has done a great job. Look all over the

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Speaker 1: are constantly finding themselves in bomb shelters. You know, the

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Speaker 1: the elderly, including Holocaust survivors. Right now, people of Israel

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Speaker 1: need your help. You can join both Buck and myself

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Speaker 1: That's IFCJ dot org eight eight eight for eight eight

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Speaker 1: if CJ.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 5: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang.

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Speaker 1: Join Clay and Buck as they laugh it up in the.

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Speaker 14: Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or

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Speaker 14: wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. My CIA brother from

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Speaker 1: another Mother joins us now Mike Baker, retired CIA COVID

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Speaker 1: Operations Officer specializing Encounter terrorism, count of Narcotic Counterinsurgency operations.

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Speaker 1: A lot of counters and you know you don't have

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Speaker 1: him there analyst. You don't have analysts in their mic.

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Speaker 1: Which don't worry. I didn't let Clay get away with

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Speaker 1: such such crazy smears as to call you an analyst.

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Speaker 1: I was giving him a compliment. You never wore a

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Speaker 1: pocket protector, you didn't have a you didn't have to

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Speaker 1: return from the war zone because of a running nose.

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Speaker 11: I like how you said that we get uppity about it.

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Speaker 1: Hm. Oh no, you guys definitely get you guys definitely

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Speaker 1: get uppity about it. Mike, let's be let's be yeah,

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Speaker 1: an analyst ever ever miss messed up on that.

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Speaker 11: We can.

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Speaker 6: We can be a little bit up our own assets,

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Speaker 6: that's for sure. So you're right, we can. We can

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Speaker 6: take offense easily.

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Speaker 1: So we had uh, we had a woman calling on

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Speaker 1: if you know about this is amazing caller Linda came

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Speaker 1: up with the idea. We think, well, she came up

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Speaker 1: with the idea and we think it made it all

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Speaker 1: the way to the White House to put ice in

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Speaker 1: the airports, and that's been amazing. We said, maybe she

948
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Speaker 1: can call in and fix the straight of horror moves.

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Speaker 1: She hasn't called back with that one yet. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put this to you. You're a former CIA COVID

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Speaker 1: operations officer, fix the straight of horror moves, fix the

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Speaker 1: Iran war. What do you see going about the way.

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Speaker 1: Mike also hosts the wildly successful PDB podcast, which all

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Speaker 1: of you should go check out. But Mike, fix the

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Speaker 1: Straight of Horror Moves, Fix Iran. What's happening?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well you know what I'm with, Linda.

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Speaker 6: Let's send Ice out to uh the Straight see, uh

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Speaker 6: see what happens.

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Speaker 11: Look, this is this is the problem here.

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Speaker 6: You can you can believe contradictory thinks at the same time, right,

961
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Speaker 6: multiple things can be true. So you can believe that

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Speaker 6: the Iranian regime was well deserving of a serious ass

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Speaker 6: kissing ass kicking, But you can also believe that we

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Speaker 6: should have seen that the Straight would be the leverage point, right,

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Speaker 6: that it would all come down to the Straight of

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Speaker 6: Horror moves because we've seen this before, right, And they've

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Speaker 6: done this before. They've created chaos in the Straight when

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Speaker 6: they've felt threatened or they're trying to make a point,

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Speaker 6: or they're looking for negotiation tactics. They've threatened to close

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Speaker 6: the Straight for decades. So while I fully support this

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Speaker 6: military operation to massively degrade the military capabilities of Iran,

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Speaker 6: I'm a little concerned that it seems like we perhaps

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Speaker 6: didn't think through what admittedly in hindsight, but I think

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Speaker 6: it was clear before that this it was going to

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Speaker 6: come down to this, right that we should have had

976
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Speaker 6: had scenarios in place already that would then say if

977
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Speaker 6: this happens, which it was going to happen, because the

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Speaker 6: Iranian military can't go toe to toe with the US

979
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Speaker 6: and Israeli militaries, this was the only direction they could

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Speaker 6: go to impact the situation.

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Speaker 11: And to try to extract concessions.

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Speaker 6: So I'm a little concerned that we now seem to

983
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Speaker 6: be in reactive mode as opposed to, you know, pulling

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Speaker 6: the playbook off the shelf, knowing that this was going

985
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Speaker 6: to happen. And look, I filled up my truck yesterday

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Speaker 6: one hundred and two dollars.

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Speaker 11: It's untenable.

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Speaker 6: From a political perspective, the Republicans are going to get

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Speaker 6: nass kicking in the midterms.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So at this point in time, we are where

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Speaker 4: we are, would there be any benefit to putting any

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Speaker 4: boots on the ground in the Strait of Hormuz related

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Speaker 4: area from your perspective analyzing that situation, because there's been

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Speaker 4: a lot of talk about taking carg Island, puttentially putting

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Speaker 4: guys in gals potentially in the Strait of Poor Moves

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Speaker 4: area where we could control ingress and egress more so,

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Speaker 4: smart is it then becoming even more of a mess?

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Speaker 4: How would you assess that if you were asked by

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Speaker 4: the president?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look, they've I think they've already tried to

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Speaker 6: cover their potential options.

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Speaker 11: They put out to marine expeditionary units.

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Speaker 6: I had about twenty five hundred soldiers to each and

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Speaker 6: a couple thousand sailors to support. They've got the eighty

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Speaker 6: second airbore sending out its elements, got a lot of

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Speaker 6: assets out there. And the problem is this, it doesn't

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Speaker 6: take much for the Iranian regime as it exists now,

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Speaker 6: even after having its leadership decimated, to create this mess. Right,

1009
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Speaker 6: So if you're talking about taking a handful of islands,

1010
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Speaker 6: and it's not just the straight we talk about this

1011
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Speaker 6: straight all the time, but the Iranians have created trouble

1012
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Speaker 6: in the Gulf, right, and so their reach is pretty significant.

1013
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Speaker 11: They've got a massive coastline.

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Speaker 6: And so if you're talking about, you know, a season

1015
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Speaker 6: occupy operation with these assault forces, and you're talking then

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Speaker 6: about you have to combine that with this international naval

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Speaker 6: force that the president's been talking about, which a number

1018
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Speaker 6: of allies are somewhat reluctant to join in on while

1019
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Speaker 6: they're still fighting going on.

1020
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Speaker 11: That's well and good.

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Speaker 6: You can create an environment where you could allow for

1022
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Speaker 6: it would be slow but safe passage of vessels, but

1023
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Speaker 6: you've got the threat still you're talking, so it's not

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Speaker 6: in any way a long term fix. And you've got

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Speaker 6: to create an environment where the shipping and insurance industries

1026
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Speaker 6: feel comfortable enough to get back to business. So when

1027
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Speaker 6: you talk about seizing some territory, you talk about using

1028
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Speaker 6: this international naval force.

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Speaker 11: How long are we talking about it? Right? You can't

1030
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Speaker 11: run that in definitely, and so I'm not sure where

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Speaker 11: they're going.

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Speaker 6: I suspect the President is really working hard to try

1033
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Speaker 6: to find a way to cut a deal that means making.

1034
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Speaker 11: Some concessions to the audience that's not going to be

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Speaker 11: very popular.

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Speaker 1: We're speaking of Mike Baker, host of the PDB podcast,

1037
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Speaker 1: and Mike, you're bringing, I think, a seasoned and somewhat

1038
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Speaker 1: salty but in a good way perspective to the situation.

1039
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Speaker 1: Because war is hell, and it is certainly complicated, and

1040
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Speaker 1: the enemy gets a vote as well. And all this.

1041
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Speaker 1: It sounds to me like your sense of this, I'm

1042
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Speaker 1: by way, this is great because we've had people asking

1043
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Speaker 1: us to have on more conservative voices who are educated

1044
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Speaker 1: on these things, which you certainly are, who are you know,

1045
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Speaker 1: more critical, maybe a little more skeptical. However you want

1046
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Speaker 1: to position it about some of the president's military reaction

1047
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Speaker 1: in Iran, So I think you're bringing that interesting or

1048
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Speaker 1: that necessary perspective into the conversation. It sounds like I've

1049
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Speaker 1: thought this way too, by the way, for a while now,

1050
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Speaker 1: and I just want to make sure that this where

1051
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Speaker 1: you are regime change that's just not happening. Is that?

1052
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Speaker 1: Is that how you see it? Like we're we're going

1053
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Speaker 1: to be negotiating with some form of this regime and

1054
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Speaker 1: that's the way this is going to play out.

1055
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Look, I would love I would love to see

1056
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Speaker 6: regime change. Right, You're never going to have anything resembling

1057
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Speaker 6: long term piece and stability in that region or a better,

1058
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Speaker 6: more prosperous, more opportune life for those people in Iran

1059
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Speaker 6: with that regime and place, in whatever form. And it

1060
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Speaker 6: certainly looks like the hardliners have you know, cemented their position.

1061
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Speaker 6: The iger GDC in particular, they've pushed that political group

1062
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Speaker 6: Pozeskian and all the others to the side. I don't

1063
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Speaker 6: even think the clerics really are are, you know, in

1064
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Speaker 6: a position of authority. I think they realize Okay, from

1065
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 6: an optic in the narrative position, sure, it's still a theocracy.

1066
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Speaker 6: The IRGC is running that show, and so you've got

1067
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Speaker 6: to find somebody to have a discussion with. But I

1068
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Speaker 6: would love to see that regime go. There's no doubt

1069
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Speaker 6: about it. Like I said, they have deserved this ass

1070
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Speaker 6: kicking for a long time. But I'm just talking from

1071
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Speaker 6: an operational, pragmatic perspective.

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Speaker 11: This is messy.

1073
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Speaker 6: This is this is really problematic because again, it does

1074
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Speaker 6: not take much to do what they're doing with this

1075
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Speaker 6: strait of Hormuz and disrupting global energy markets and supplies.

1076
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Speaker 11: Right, because you're.

1077
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Speaker 6: Dealing with you've got to convince the commercial sector. You've

1078
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Speaker 6: got to convince the insurers and the shippers that it's

1079
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Speaker 6: safe to do this. And I refuse to think that

1080
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Speaker 6: the US is going to wrap itself into a long term,

1081
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Speaker 6: indefinite position out there, and so then you have to

1082
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Speaker 6: look at what few options you've got, and that comes

1083
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Speaker 6: down to can we find somebody who can cut a

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Speaker 6: deal within the Iranian leadership as it exists, and you know,

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Speaker 6: then call it good.

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Speaker 11: But what does that do?

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Speaker 6: Essentially, every administration has been putting lipstick on this pig

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Speaker 6: right for for decades, hoping that the next administration would

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Speaker 6: be fine, let them deal with it. So I'm glad

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Speaker 6: that we have significantly degraded the military capabilities of Iran.

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Speaker 6: I think we've what we've done is we've kicked the

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Speaker 6: can much further down the road than it's been kicked

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Speaker 6: in the past. And so you call that a success

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Speaker 6: and then and then you move on. But the problem

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Speaker 6: is the Iranian regime if it's still there, and there's

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Speaker 6: no sign of a serious fracture inside that regime at

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Speaker 6: this point, if it remains, you know, they're looking for

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Speaker 6: some concessions in order to cut that deal. And then

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Speaker 6: they've always got this potential for them to take the

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Speaker 6: international community hostage again by just a little bit of disruption.

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Speaker 11: In that area.

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Speaker 4: To what extent do you think there's likely to be

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Speaker 4: a full divergence in perspectives between the United States and Israel?

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Speaker 4: In other words, could Trump declare victory, say the United

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Speaker 4: States component aspects of this mission are complete, and then

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Speaker 4: Israel continues because they're still going to have air superiority.

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Speaker 4: I would expect this mission so long as they desire

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Speaker 4: to do so on their own. How unified do you

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Speaker 4: think this mission will be in the months ahead?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think you've pointed to the key.

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Speaker 6: Difference between Washington and Jerusalem, which is nen Yahoo and Israel.

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Speaker 6: They have looked at this as a regime change operation.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: Of course, they wanted to degrade that missile program as

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Speaker 6: much as possible, but for them, a success is getting

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Speaker 6: rid of this regime. And I think that was, you know,

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Speaker 6: a hope for a result from the US side, but

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Speaker 6: not the primary objective.

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Speaker 11: So that's a that's a problem.

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Speaker 6: I don't think if the US, you know, declares the

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Speaker 6: victory and figures out how to get out of it

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Speaker 6: that I don't think Israel will continue their efforts in Iran, right,

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Speaker 6: They'll be focused on Hezbolah and you know some of

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Speaker 6: their ground operations in southern Lebanon.

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Speaker 1: Mike, I think I think you have some I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 6: Well, no, no, I was gonna say that we may

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Speaker 6: likely see the map read on where they end up

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Speaker 6: occupying sort of that that turf south of the Latany River,

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Speaker 6: which would be that's a significant change.

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Speaker 1: Mike, just one more thing for before we gotta gotta

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Speaker 1: close out into a break and Mike hosts the PDB

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Speaker 1: a lot of national security political issues every every episode. Mike,

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Speaker 1: the you said the midterms you're worried about, You're not

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Speaker 1: alone there. I just think that historically speaking, if you

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Speaker 1: look at what generally happens Republicans, probably you're going to

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Speaker 1: lose control again. People don't yell at me and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but historically speaking, this is the trend.

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Speaker 1: Right you're worried. It could be a little worse than that,

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Speaker 1: or rather it could be it sounds like it could

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Speaker 1: be something of a wave in the House that goes

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Speaker 1: against Trump because of this Iron situation. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like that's now baked in or if Trump off ramps

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Speaker 1: effectively declares victory, get some kind of a cessation of

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Speaker 1: hostilities with the Iranian regime, poor moves opens up. Do

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Speaker 1: you think people will forget about this and it'll be

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Speaker 1: more of those kitchen table issues that usually are the

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Speaker 1: deciding factors in a midterm Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I mean I think, Look, I think if.

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Speaker 6: The best result would be if there is somehow a

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Speaker 6: regime change, right, if there's just conversations going on that

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Speaker 6: we don't know about, and that there's there's some top

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Speaker 6: commanders in IRGC that have said, fine, we're done. This

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Speaker 6: is ridiculous because they're not ideologues for whatever reason, and

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Speaker 6: they provide top cover for the people of Iran then

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Speaker 6: to come out in the streets and not be slaughtered

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Speaker 6: as they were in the past by the internal security apparatus.

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Speaker 11: That's a great result.

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Speaker 6: I think that could actually mitigate some of the midterm

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Speaker 6: losses and could actually, you know, be such a win

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Speaker 6: in terms of a sea change in the Middle East

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Speaker 6: that you know, the Republicans could hold the house, you know.

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Speaker 11: Other than that, you know, I'm no different than everybody else.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd go into the fuel pumps and paying

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Speaker 6: you know that much more money. Forget that it depends

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Speaker 6: on where that price is. You know, if if they

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Speaker 6: can get a resolution back out, the global markets stabilize,

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Speaker 6: you know, they calm that everybody drops the angst and

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Speaker 6: the prices dropped, then sure, yeah, but I do think historically,

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Speaker 6: as you pointed out, typically, you know it's not gonna

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Speaker 6: go well in the midterms anyway, But unless those prices

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Speaker 6: come down, I think there's a real problem.

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Speaker 1: Mike Baker, Hey, Mike, appreciate you and thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here. Is always with us, and come back soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk to you more about this stuff

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Speaker 1: as it unfolds.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, Thanks, guys, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I won't let Clay call you an analyst.

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Speaker 1: I promise he's not gonna pull any that crap on

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Speaker 1: my watch, all right, you know, all right?

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Speaker 6: I was I think the bottom line was I was

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Speaker 1: So I was about to say, I was about to say,

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Speaker 1: your analysis just now is really good. We could have

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Speaker 1: used you back in the day in that Irack conference room.

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