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Speaker 1: On the dol Cast. The questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: start changing it with the Betel Cast. Oh that smells

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Speaker 1: so bad, I will go to the Vectel Cast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Jamie, my name is Caitlin. I just opened

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Speaker 1: a MIC's hard lemonade, and boy does it smell like

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Speaker 1: right flavor the strawberry lemonade. You got the right flavor

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Speaker 1: is that it's like sugar. It's like juice, um, juice

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Speaker 1: that makes you do bad things. This is the Vectel Cast.

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Speaker 1: Should we tell them what it is? We can. It's

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Speaker 1: a podcast about the representation and portrayal of women characters

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Speaker 1: in movies. It's inspired by the Bechtel Test. Wow, if

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Speaker 1: you don't know what it is, I'm about to tell you,

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Speaker 1: grow up. The It's a test that requires that two

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Speaker 1: something other than a man. Preferably these people have names.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes that is asking too much. Sometimes it is

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Speaker 1: and that. That really is it? How are you? Are

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Speaker 1: you good? I'm good? Good? How are you? I'm great,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we do this little check. It's never been better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get to it. Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Our guest is a very funny comedian. She had a

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Speaker 1: show on Comedy Central called not Safe Nicky Glazer. Hey,

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Speaker 1: guys here, thanks for having me. I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of this test. A good tests, and there's not many

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Speaker 1: tests that one can claim to be a fan of. No.

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Speaker 1: I think this is UM pregnancy tests, AIDS tests, and

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Speaker 1: then this one. Yeah that's all. You know what? One

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Speaker 1: time I took like an ap CALC test and I

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Speaker 1: How did you actually do on the AP exam? Though? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I never took any of the APE exam. I got

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Speaker 1: a five on the English and a two on the French.

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Speaker 1: It's literally like my only thing that I can brag

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Speaker 1: I took the API English test. Yeah, I just something

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Speaker 1: was right that day. It was I think it was

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Speaker 1: the day George Harrison died I remember driving to the test.

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Speaker 1: a test on the day George Harrison died and I

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Speaker 1: was just like, my sweet lord, my s A t

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Speaker 1: different school with like all these really cool girls that

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Speaker 1: I was afraid to talk to, and um, I got

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Speaker 1: there's a tip for you. Para white jeans, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: That's another thing, Like they're making tampons just smaller and

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Speaker 1: myne like I've got a tampon, Like it's so it's funny.

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Speaker 1: your tiny little brain. Yeah. I mean, I feel like

422
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: I was at a very impressionable age when I saw it,

423
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: when like I started becoming obsessed with celebrity stuff and

424
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: it became like I'm not good enough. And when I

425
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: saw that movie, there's wasn't anything in it that really

426
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: made me feel like I need to be like these people.

427
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: They were so outlandish and so far removed from what

428
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: I know. And I think as much as I admired

429
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: Share and thought she was pretty and had cool clothes, there,

430
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: I recognize I thought she was nice. I think in

431
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: the end, she was a nice person, and I didn't

432
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: like any of the meanness from the other girls. It

433
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: didn't make me want to be mean. But I'm a

434
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 1: nice I was a nice person, So who knows. And

435
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: there isn't as much of the meanness as you might

436
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: expect in this movie, like, for example, in Mean Girls,

437
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: there's a lot more as you might imagine. And I

438
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: feel like in a lot of movies about high school

439
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: high school students, high school women especially, there's just so

440
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: much pettiness and cattiness, and even if their friends are

441
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: still just nasty to each other. And it's also I

442
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: thinking towards the end, it's not the worst, even if

443
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: it's most likely inaccurate in every way, it's not the

444
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: worst thing to tell young audiences that being very nice,

445
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: you can be very nice and also be very popular.

446
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that that's super normalized idea, especially

447
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: in you know, the nineties. So it was nice to

448
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, she's a decent person, she cares about

449
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: the people around her, and she's the most popular girl

450
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: in school, which is kind of like the ending. I

451
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: do like when she's like she catches the bouquet and

452
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: she ends up with her ex step brother, which is

453
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: fine because there's total chemistry and they're not connected anymore.

454
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: But I love when you're like she kind of does

455
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: a switch rooney where you think, like, oh my god,

456
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: she's gonna get married. She's like, you gross, we're not

457
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: doing if we're not from Kentucky. Like because it is

458
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: funny because in my mind they're still together, but that

459
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 1: was they were in high school, like and he was

460
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: there's no way they're still together. But I'm like, they

461
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: found lasting love that will last forever, and it's so didn't.

462
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: But that's the sort of thing where like three years

463
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: from then, absolutely, that's like SHARE's party story of like, yeah,

464
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: I used to date my step brother, Like it's a

465
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: great party story from She might have gotten into stand

466
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: up because of that. Oh I wanted to talk about Um,

467
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: I forget what the name of that asshole character is.

468
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: He's obviously a piece of ship and oh there's a

469
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: definite rape. Yeah. I wanted to talk about that scene

470
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: because Share does the best she possibly can in that

471
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: situation in the moment, but it was like that was

472
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: like a scene that didn't register with me the first time.

473
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: I watched it in this time, we're like, oh my god,

474
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: like he's trying to rape her, and then she's like, no,

475
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 1: leave me alone, and he abandons her in the parking

476
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: lot of this liquor store. I passed all the time

477
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: all the time. I loved what I used to pass that.

478
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I would be like, but it's a liah and a whata.

479
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: She's like, that's really expensive designer and he's like, I'm

480
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: gonna really blow your fucking head off. That's a great part.

481
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: But but I totally agree with you that that did

482
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: not stand out to me, is like really that horrible.

483
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: I was just like, he's a jerk or whatever. But

484
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: looking back, and I don't even think they intended it

485
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: for because I think back then in that was not

486
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: qualified as scenes like the boys were kiss a girl

487
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: and she didn't feel like kissing him, and but him

488
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 1: leaving her, like, yeah, it was that was traumatic. She

489
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: does say she's like, oh what a night this has become.

490
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: I was sat really harassed. Oh so she does call

491
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: it out. But because it seems like that, especially at

492
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: the time, they were just so normalized, we like see

493
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: seems like that from that era and even yeah, I

494
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: mean like I can't cite another one off the top

495
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: of my head, but for sure we've all seen that

496
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: exact scene a number of times and it's just like

497
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: the takeaways supposed to be like she rejected him, not

498
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: not that like he did anything. Extremely My first kiss

499
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: was actually very similar to that, and it scared me

500
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: off from boys for so long. I mean it was

501
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: already late. I was like sixteen when I had my

502
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: first kiss. But he just and I was like I

503
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: liked him, and we both were kind of like we

504
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: like each other, and we were like in his living

505
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: room just kind of like you know what, and he

506
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: just left across the room and like attacked my face

507
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, get off, Like I was just

508
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: like and he got really upset and like went into

509
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: his kitchen, was like slamming cabinets and was drinking. I

510
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: found out. Then he drove me home. He drove me

511
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: home and was so pissed. We were like good friends,

512
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: just speeding like through suburbs, and he dropped me off

513
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: and I got one ft out of the car and

514
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: he starts speeding off and like I almost like ran

515
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: me over, which I wouldn't have done had it not

516
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: been so aggressive. Yes, he literally sprung across the room

517
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: and then I didn't and then I didn't kiss another

518
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: boy for like years. That would have been very traumatic.

519
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I understand why first kisses are traumatic enough in nature,

520
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: and the thing is, until talking about it right now,

521
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how traumatic it was and how like

522
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: it totally makes sense that I was like scared of

523
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: him and boys after that, because it was very similar

524
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: to the Elton situation. Was like get off and he's

525
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: like still trying. You're like, you know, I mean tell

526
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: him like three, It's called sucking blow Elton. It's a game.

527
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: It's like I know you wanted it, Oh god, Yeah.

528
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: And the fact that he does that in the first place,

529
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: back of the party is just like she's clearly grossed

530
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: out by it. And prior to that, there's a number

531
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: of scenes where something happens in class, like she gets

532
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: a good grade or like they and kisses her like

533
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: keeps just like it's usually on the cheek, but it's

534
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: a mushy kiss. It's always like for a while, because

535
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: I didn't remember what their relationship was when I was

536
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: rewatching the movie and didn't remember that well, I thought

537
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: he was her boyfriend because he just keeps hugging her

538
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: and using her. And then you're like, oh wait, he's

539
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: just a creepy dude who raises his hand in the

540
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: middle class and says the stupidest things right, and it's

541
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: not even funny, like when the stoner guy does it right. Yeah,

542
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: I love when the stoner guy gives a speech about

543
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: my luffins. And I'd like to thank the staff of

544
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: the McDonald's, without which I might never be like anyways,

545
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: shout out to him, Shout out to Travis. Fuck Elton

546
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: and fuck Elton man. I hated his character. I hated

547
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: as dumb, like when he's singing to the Cranberries when

548
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: they're driving before he assaults her, He's like done where

549
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: where It's just like what, He's such a creep. And then,

550
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: first of all, so the story goes that he she's

551
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: trying to hook him up with Tie, and she thinks

552
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: he's into Tie because she took a picture of Tie

553
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: and he put the picture in his locker and then

554
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: he goes, I put a picture you took in my locker,

555
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: Like that's not it doesn't make any make any sense.

556
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: It's a picture of another girl that doesn't doesn't make sense.

557
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: Maybe she took a picture of a tree and he

558
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: put that in his locker, but if you take a

559
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: picture like that was a bad excuse. And also he

560
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: brings class into that conversation too by basically saying, like

561
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: why would I be with Tie? She's yeah, you know

562
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: who is? And it's like the first we don't know?

563
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: You know? But I bet that's a scene that got

564
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: cut that was Yeah, maybe I want to see I mean,

565
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: we don't see a lot of parents in this movie.

566
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: The closest we get to seeing parents is a guy

567
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: from Princess Bride and his teacher girlfriend gets his name again,

568
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh that actor's name he existed in a very specific

569
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: ten year period is yeah, and miss Geist I would

570
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: have loved to see her again. And she was great

571
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: with her stockings falling down, and and then I didn't

572
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: ever get any of the jokes where like Share makes

573
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: the fake love letter and she's like she does Shakespeare

574
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: quote and he's like, what is that? She goes? Did

575
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you write that? She goes? No, Cliff's nuts. That's a book,

576
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: And I I forgot like when I started watching it, like,

577
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: oh yeah, clue, this is based on something it's based

578
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: on Emma is that you know, girl who hooks everyone up,

579
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: which makes sense for share, But there's also a ton

580
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: of Shakespeare references and I was like reading about it,

581
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: and I guess it's because there's parts of the movie

582
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: that are also taken from Titus Andronicus. But I don't

583
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: know what happens in that play. Father fact, I didn't

584
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: get that Christian was gay, like as a kid, and ever,

585
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I just all of a sudden they

586
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: were friends because to me, he says he's gay, he is,

587
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: like he says it in a kind of there's a

588
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: lot of noise going over it, so you can't hear.

589
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: And if you don't know what Dorothy lover ticket holding whatever,

590
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: I wouldn't never references even I know, five or six

591
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: years ago, no idea. And then when he's watching he

592
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: wants to watch all those Tony Curtis movies. Like that's

593
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: a reference no one would get. I'm like, oh, he

594
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: just likes boring movies, right, like he wants to watch

595
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: Spartacus cool whatever. I kind of wish that Christian had

596
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: like come out to her, yes, Like I mean, it's

597
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: coming from a straight person who doesn't know anything about

598
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: the experience of coming out. But I think that would

599
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: have been a nice thing to see in because we

600
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: have to assume it happens, because it seems like by

601
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: the next time that character shows up after Chair fails

602
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: to have sex with him, there's like an understanding between

603
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: them and it's not going to be an issue again.

604
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would have liked to see that. And

605
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, like we're registered for me. I remember

606
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: when I heard Murray saying that stuff as a kid,

607
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: like Barbara streisand Judy Garland and all that stuff, like

608
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: this sounds like me. I love you know, though I'm

609
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: surprised that, um there wasn't more of a homophobia in

610
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: in his description of him. I mean there were like

611
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: funny you know, without saying gay. He made a bunch

612
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: of like did resort to like pretty stereotypical but not

613
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: harsh necessarily harsh. Yeah, And I don't and we never

614
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: saw him get any like they seem to accepting of him,

615
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: and like, you know, and then when he saves Tie

616
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: when they're at the mall, he like steps up as

617
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: like a fucking macho man in that scene, which I

618
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: really like. Yeah, and there's no yeah. Like Murray's description

619
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: definitely isn't perfect, but for I feel like just the

620
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: fact that his implication isn't like there was no just

621
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: sky yeah, which which is what you would kind of

622
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: expect out of like a straight male high school boy

623
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: like that. I did also appreciate that even though the

624
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: actress who plays this character turned out to be horrible,

625
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: but that they're one of the main characters was a

626
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: woman of color. That was nice. Yeah, that was great.

627
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: It's a good point. Speaking of Christian one of the

628
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: things I wanted to talk about was she before she

629
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: knows that he is gay and they're going on on

630
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: when she thinks it's a date. She comes down and

631
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: she's dressed in this little white dress, and then Josh

632
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: is like, you couldn't let her go out on that

633
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: talking to her dad because apparently she's dressed too scantily,

634
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: And it was just upsetting that to see Josh be like, oh,

635
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: she's like, the implication is, oh, she looks like a slut.

636
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: She's not, so her dad's like, cover that up. I

637
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess that that didn't register with me

638
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: because I for sure heard that from my dad at

639
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: least once your dad is a pig, I mean, but

640
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: like not to give into the patriarchy, but like sometimes

641
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: like you can see my ass, you know, and I

642
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't want my child. Yeah, I I get what you're saying,

643
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: and I also give what I think of what you

644
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: both are saying, and I agree with them because sometimes

645
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: I feel like women dressed in a certain way that

646
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: is uncomfortable for them out on the town and they're asked,

647
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: we'll be hanging out and it's like, you don't need

648
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: to do that to, you know, to impress this person.

649
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: But I also feel like where whatever you want, it

650
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: never it never struck me until you said that though,

651
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: and until you brought it up that it was a

652
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: little bit like stop dressing like a slut, because there

653
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of indications of there's a lot of

654
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: that talk in the movie. I think that, like, um,

655
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: do they talk about Amber dressing like a slut? They

656
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: mentioned like she's like, oh I have enough from my

657
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: plastic surgeon that no balls should be thrown in my

658
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: face or something and really goes your social life. So

659
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: it's weird because a lot of it. The thing that

660
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I would find weird about the scene is that, Like

661
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Josh is the one who says, are you going to

662
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: let her go out like that? Like, basically her peer

663
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: is saying that, which felt weird. Well, we can assume

664
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: that because he likes her. They don't really, they might

665
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: not know they like each other yet, but they do.

666
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, I don't want her to be

667
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: sexual with anyone else. I want to be to be

668
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: sexual with me, So like, cover up your sexiness so

669
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: that I can have it later. I think it's a

670
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: very approach. Yeah, so he should just be okay with

671
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: whatever she wants to wear. Also, what she was wearing

672
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: in that scene is wasn't any cute. It was a

673
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: great outfit and it was I mean it was the

674
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: same thing that she's been wearing all along, Like the

675
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: same length of skirt dress. I mean, you know another

676
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: way that that kind of same. I keep getting these

677
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: scenes mixed up. His father of the Bride, do you

678
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: remember are you familiar with that movie? Well, her her

679
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: dad is she comes back home from college and she's

680
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: engaged to this guy, and her dad's like they're leaving

681
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: to go out after dinner her fiance and her dad's like,

682
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: it's a little cold, out there, you want to put

683
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: something on, like she's not like exposed, but he's like

684
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: She's like, no, dad, I'll be fine. And then her

685
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: boyfriend goes, it is a little cold. She goes, oh yeah,

686
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll get my jacket, like she just instantly does it

687
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: for him, and that was like another kind of way

688
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: without making it about her being showing too much skin,

689
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: which reminds me of one of my favorite lines in

690
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: the movie when she's like explaining how you can get

691
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: a boy to like you. She's like, show a little

692
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: skin and that will make a boy picture you naked,

693
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: which reminds them of six. That is really fun. That

694
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: is totally a line that I took as actual advice,

695
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: like very obviously and exactly that that. So there's the

696
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: dangerous territory in that. That was stuff that though like, yeah,

697
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: in high school, I remember my my first school boyfriend,

698
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: who I feel like I site constantly on this podcast

699
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: so much. But there was like one time where we

700
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: both like saved up money from our part time jobs

701
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: to go to a seafood restaurant together because we had

702
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: both heard that oysters were an as We're like saved

703
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: up for weeks and we're like and we literally went

704
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: to the cheesecake factory, but they have oysters, and then

705
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: we're just like, oh, like maybe we're gonna kiss with

706
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: tongue tonight because we had all this fish. But stuff

707
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: like that, like I don't know where I would have

708
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: gotten that from, if not from a movie or a

709
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: book or something like that. Um, And that's like a

710
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: more innocent incarnation of taking stuff like that and trying

711
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: to like desperately trying to apply it to your real life.

712
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: But it does stick with you. It's weird. And like

713
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: how parents after they have sex, like on sitcoms, they're

714
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: always really happy the next morning. So you're like, oh,

715
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: if mom's ever happy she got laid last night, because

716
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: that's only way that a housewife can be prancing around

717
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: the house with a smile on her face as if

718
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: she got laid. That was always a thing like, So

719
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I guess sex makes people happy, which I mean, it

720
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: doesn't not have to smoke a cigarette afterwards. So much

721
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: of that, but a great line from that also that

722
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: date scene was when she gets in the car with Christian,

723
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: who I think most people would have already figured out

724
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: as gay, and he's listening to Billy Holliday. Who is this?

725
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: She's like Billy Holiday, She's like I love him. Oh God,

726
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: so good. It's a great comedy. It's it's packed with

727
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: funny lines like joke, joke, joke, it's it's I love

728
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 1: that about it. And it's written and directed by a woman, Amyling.

729
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: And here's a fun reference to your least favorite episode ever, Caitlin.

730
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Is that Amy Heckerling used to date Martin Breast, who

731
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: directed sag Connection Indoors. Oh my god? What else is

732
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: Amory Heroling Dunne. She also like helmed the TV spinoff

733
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: Let's See she was involved so she directed Fast Times

734
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: at Ridgemont High. She directed National Lampoon's European Vacation. She

735
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: directed Look Who's Talking? I loved it? And then she

736
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: later worked on A Night the Roxbury Loved It, directed

737
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: an episode of the first season of the Office, and

738
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: directed a little bit of Gossip Girl. All right. She

739
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: she had a good career to write something again, come on,

740
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: come back baby? Well hi are you Amy? Yeah? We're wealthy.

741
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: The other thing I wanted to mention is that the

742
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: like flirtatious banter that happens throughout the movie between Share

743
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: and Josh is a lot of nagging about her appearance,

744
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: which bothered me. You're really filling out that job that's

745
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: like his first and you know, I understand, like negging

746
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: is a concept of like flirting, especially if it's like

747
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: because it can't you know, it's not the best way

748
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: to flirt. I've for sure done it. It's for sure

749
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: been done to me, like it happens, and sometimes it

750
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: for sure works, and sometimes it does. Um. I love

751
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: being a bully. That's how I've gotten every person's heart.

752
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: And then I fixed that. But it's often at the

753
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: expense of her appearance or her just like, you know,

754
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,919
Speaker 1: he's making fun of you go to the mall a lot.

755
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: You're just a stupid girl who shops and I don't know.

756
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean, that is kind of her character. But then

757
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: she gets really affected by that kind of um insult

758
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: when she starts to like him, and she's like, I

759
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: want to seem more than that, and I am more

760
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: than that, and I think that that, Um, I like her.

761
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: Her rebellion of that concept that she's just like a

762
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: mall rat, I think is going in the right direction.

763
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: He was there at the dinner table and she's like,

764
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: I have direction. He's like, yeah, they're the mall, and

765
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: she's just like yeah. And then there's one point where

766
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: he's criticizing how like her effect on tie uh and

767
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: he says something like oh, yeah, there's been a lot

768
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: more bare midriff or like whatever, um, and she does

769
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: give it back to him. There's that time when they

770
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: get all the take out for shares dad, which, first

771
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: of all, I loved that she's such a good person

772
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: and has a great relationship with her dad. Um, but

773
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: where um he's he says like how many hours a

774
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: day he's been grooming and she sort of throws it

775
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,959
Speaker 1: back to him. It's like, oh, you can't look as

776
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: perfect as you. So it's like there is a but

777
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: I feel like he makes more personal hits towards her

778
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: that almost always have to do with her appearance, where

779
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: like when she insults him, it's almost like, oh, yeah,

780
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: you read a lot of books or like it vague yeah,

781
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: and it could just be you know, the time, it

782
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: was the nineties, we were all terrible. But the other

783
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to mention was on first glance, she

784
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: seems like a kind of a ditzy airhead, but she

785
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: gets good grades she gets like A in geometry. In fact,

786
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: I paused the part where you see her credit card

787
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: and like there's little comments on it. And under her

788
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: biology classes report card, Oh yeah, what did I say

789
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: in a credit card? Stop her report card? Yeah? And

790
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: under biology it says, uh, won't dissect anything, and then

791
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: under geometry geometry it says good shapes. Yeah, she's she's

792
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: not an airhead. She you know, her speech is she

793
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: gives in her debate class or whatever are seemed quite vapid.

794
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: But she's smart and like takes an active interest. I

795
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: do love that she negotiates her grades and all that

796
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: you're telling me you argued you away from a C

797
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: minus to a B plus. And then he's like, based

798
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: on the powers of persuasion. He's like, I couldn't be

799
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: prouder if they were based on an actual um. The

800
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: fact that she does take an active interest in her

801
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: grade and she's never I was impressed, because, like when

802
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: I was rewatching it, I'm like, oh, does her dad

803
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: ever try to force her into any sort of stereotypical world?

804
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: But he really doesn't like when he has that discussion

805
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: with Josh and share Um and shares like whatever, he's

806
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: a big geek and he's and but her dad just

807
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: as badly wants her to find what she wants to

808
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: do and have like a successful career, and you know,

809
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: she helps him with his health health and his lawyer

810
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: stuff at times, and it's like it does seem like

811
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: he's not for the most part or no more than

812
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: a normal good dad would be like an oppressive force

813
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: in her wife, which is kind of cool, right, Yeah.

814
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: I remember getting so anxious when she's doing all the

815
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: highlighting for her dad and then she fox it up

816
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: and that guy yells at her and leaves, and it

817
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: like if you guys were flirting the whole time, and

818
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: she's just like she feels really stupid. That gave me

819
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: so much anxiety, like as a as someone who's tempted

820
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: a lot and like fucked things up, like and like

821
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: having that feeling like, oh, I'm just a girl that

822
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: is so confused and like doesn't get it, Like there's

823
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: something there that makes me a little feel insecure totally.

824
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: And then um, Josh defends her. I kind of I

825
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: wish like she had defended herself, but you know, I

826
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: can't have everything. Um, he defends her, like arguing against

827
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: a lot of the things, a lot of like the

828
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 1: ammunition he used when he was like flirtatiously nagging her before,

829
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: like she's not just a dumb mom. Yeah, but yeah,

830
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: and then they go and they have that nice little kiss,

831
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: like you really like that. I just want Paul Rod

832
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: to kiss me. He's so, he's still sixteen a couple

833
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: of years gonna live for Breckon Meyer is still very

834
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: handsome too, but he like looks his age, which is

835
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: not that's not an assault. This is a little gossip,

836
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: But I saw him with a much younger lady when

837
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: I saw him at bruncheon. It looked like he was

838
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: taking his niece out o Brecon that's ft. I know,

839
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: maybe she's an old soul. Who's that? That's what they

840
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: all say. Who's that? Like superhero actor right now that's

841
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: standing like a nineteen year old. I was really enjoying

842
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: some recent coverage of that on like Pearance Hilton and

843
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: Jess Jared. Really yeah, there's like a major Oh, I

844
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: think it might be Henry Cavill, Superman who is dating

845
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: a teenager and like he's like doing his best to

846
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: explain it away and like my favorite Henry Cavil excuse

847
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: for dating a teenager was he was like, well, when

848
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 1: I was seventeen, I dated a thirty five year old

849
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, and Henry Cavitt, that's probably why

850
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: you're like this now like break the cycle, Superman, he

851
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: won't do it. Yeah, I'll tell you. Oh. He split

852
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: from his nineteen year old girlfriend in May of two

853
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 1: thou sixteen. Good for her. Does anyone have any thought

854
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: final thoughts about the movie before we rate it? We

855
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: rate it, we ate it. I think we talked about

856
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: every every scene, every single scene. Um great soundtrack Killers.

857
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: I was listening to it on the way over, just

858
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: like getting myself, am gonna be super Model? What a

859
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: great song that? And then later on the Lizzie McGuire

860
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: movie soundtrack really just guided me. Was it good? It's

861
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: real good. It's more early two thousands, but it's like

862
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: clueless for two thousand and three styles. I was just

863
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: recalling even Stevens, did you want to see Carls and Romana?

864
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: I know what happened to her. She's like a scientist now,

865
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: probably woman and stable. She was definitely a woman and

866
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: step by the way Christian calls shares legs, stems and

867
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: I was like, good, A stem mentioned we got it

868
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: in no steampunk in this movie. I was happy, um,

869
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: because usually the someone's the steampunk culture permeates all my

870
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: favorite films, and I'm triggeringly. I have to go on

871
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: a Walk is one of your favorite films? I do

872
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: know all the words to the themes, me too too.

873
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: I remember I specifically remember bragging about that at lunch once,

874
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: like my sophomore year, like, um, do you want me

875
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: to recite all the uto d No, you don't, none,

876
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: none of this soldiers. Look, it's like I told you,

877
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm triggered in distress. Ye out of that dress when

878
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: they meet Jim West. Oh that's good. I had to

879
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: listen that song again. It's so terrible. Oh god, it's bad.

880
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: It's like tattooed into my brain. Maybe you self joke

881
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: about that song about how like that. I used to

882
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: do a joke about how whenever you break up, never

883
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: have whenever you pick a song with someone like your song,

884
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 1: just pick a terrible song so that like when you

885
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: hear it, you'll never yeah, you don't hear it, and

886
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: so just always pick uh Will Smith's Wild Wildlass because

887
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: no one feels I was like Jada Pickett. Smith could

888
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: break up with Will Smith and hear that song and

889
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: feel nothing, but it's so bad, So I like that.

890
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: I like that the Cisco's involved though, he goes goes Cisco. Yeah,

891
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: it's good too, the wow wow, and that's where he

892
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: went and disappeared because I haven't heard Cisco since. Dude, Cisco.

893
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: Maybe this gets back to my nine eleven anecdote. I

894
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever talked about it on the

895
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: cast before. When I saw the Backstreet Boys perform live

896
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: in Boston the night before nine eleven September, I was

897
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: at the show and Cisco opened Whoa. My mom made

898
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: me miss the first twenty minutes of the Backstreet Boys

899
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: because she had a crush on Cisco, and she's like,

900
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: we've got to get in mine to meet Cisco. I

901
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: remember being so mad. I was like, I don't want

902
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: to meet Cisco. I want to look at Nick Carter,

903
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: and my mom was like, we've got an Oh my god.

904
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: Your mom was definitely wearing a thong. She was horny

905
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: for Cisco, probably wearing like a tree or fours. Got

906
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: to get that coverage. Yeah, oh god, yeah, that's really cute.

907
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: It's wild. It was a simpler time. That literally was

908
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: the last the weaning hours of the simpler time. I

909
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: remember exactly what I was doing that night too. The

910
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: night before I was doing a French essay about terrorism.

911
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I had to look up Terroisma or whatever

912
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: heard it was. I don't remember what I was doing Patriot. Sorry,

913
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: shout out to Cisco wherever you are, if you're alive.

914
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: He's such a fan of podcast. We'd love to hear

915
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: from you. Hopefully you're into very specific podcast. Yeah, we

916
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: should get him as a guest. Uh. He seems like

917
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: a feminist totally Cisco, are you an ally? He wants

918
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: women to wear whatever they want. It's almost like a

919
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: drug stru drugs, like what what? What? God? Yeah, dumps

920
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,959
Speaker 1: like a drug. Is a disgusting Oh my god, it's

921
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: so awful. And that's what me leads with. Yeah, is

922
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 1: it is that butt lay? Is that but cheeks? I'm

923
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: just I'm just picture. No, it's like a ship pooping.

924
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 1: That's what I as, a struck load of ship because

925
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: her asset that's so gross. I've never even put this together.

926
00:52:58,400 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: I thought like it was a part of my body.

927
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: Why mean, we're speculating that might not be what he meant,

928
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: but that is definitely what its like from it. That's

929
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: like the bridge. Yeah, he's like, now let me lead

930
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: up to this incredible like move that thing that and

931
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: then later Hot in Here, where I was like I

932
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: should that's Nellie, But I was like, I should date

933
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: a guy who is perpetually wearing a band aid on

934
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: his face. Oh? I love Nellie so much? He still do.

935
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: And good evolution we were that was my senior song

936
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: he got sensitive later on he did over and over again. Yeah,

937
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: that's what I was like, what's the sensitive my head?

938
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: With Tim McGraw, it's like, man, maybe the girl from

939
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: Hot in Here really broke his heart? Yeah, who knows.

940
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: Oh the guy took to prom was like, does fish

941
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: tanks in St. Louis? And he did Nellie's fish tanks? Yeah,

942
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: I gotta connection you guys. When there's a crack in

943
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: the fish tank? What they pull? What do they put

944
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: on it? Abandoned? Love it really straight? We're saying almost

945
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: all of let's write the movie. Okay, we write each

946
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: movie based on its portrayal of the women characters on

947
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: a scale of zero to five nipples, and if you

948
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 1: want to describe those nipples. So for me, I would

949
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: say because it does have like a nice portrayal of

950
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: female friendships, and the main character is a very nurturing

951
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: and supportive and nice person, which you might not expect

952
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: from a movie like this or a movie that takes

953
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: place in this setting. There's some things about it that like,

954
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: we're dated and could have been portrayed better. Um. Also,

955
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: the use of the R E T a R D

956
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: word happens. I've got to send you an episode of

957
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: Coast Coast to Coast I watched yesterday that really uses

958
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: that word with insane liberalism. But I think it was

959
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: when space Gast was about to be canceled, since they

960
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: were like, let's do it. I don't endorse it. But

961
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,479
Speaker 1: other than that, though it, I think it does a

962
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: pretty good job portraying rich Beverly Hills High school women.

963
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: They need to be lifted up because they really do.

964
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: I would give it. I don't know. This is a

965
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: hard one for me. I'm going to be generous to this,

966
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: like it. I'm going to give it like a three

967
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: and a half. I think three and a half nipples

968
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: they belong to Paul Rudd, two of them are Paul

969
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: Rudd's angels mummy, yeah exactly. Then one and a half

970
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: of them are vampire Paul Rudd, which are like cold

971
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: but still nice. Yeah, I'm going to give it four uh,

972
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: and I'm going to give those four or nips to share.

973
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: His mom passed away and the nips that she was

974
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: having transplanted onto her body she was at the time

975
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: of her That's some risky surgery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

976
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: mean it might kill you, but the results are undeniable. Yeah,

977
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna give it for just because of the

978
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: personal meaning it had to me as like a woman

979
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: in a in comedy and how funny that movie was

980
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: and how influential it was on my sense of humor,

981
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: and that a woman wrote it and that Share was

982
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: a popular girl who was actually nice and it it

983
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: didn't because of the female friendships and stuff. So and

984
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: all the nipples are everyone's nipples the world all around.

985
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: I just want to share them with the Francisco. Okay,

986
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: I dedicated my nipples to Cisco. I really hope he

987
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 1: has become a cult later or something like. Who knows

988
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: he's doing something good. Feel free to talk about anything

989
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: while I figure out what Cisco is currently? Uh, well, Nikki,

990
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: where can people find you online? Oh? Nicky Glazer on

991
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter? And what did you find? In two

992
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, Cisco provided his talent on an unusual

993
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: duet with country music singer Marie Osmond. Weird. Marie Osmond

994
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: is his Tim McGraw. Wow, what a career he's had.

995
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: He lives in Minnesota and he has appeared on What Swamp? Okay, Okay,

996
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: he's doing fine, Jamie. Anything you want to plug? Um, sure,

997
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 1: you can watch the cartoons that I always plug every week,

998
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: Boston pds Amboi Crimes Division. And then there's a new

999
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: one starting about popular Siamese twins who live underground, and

1000
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: that'll be starting a couple of weeks and I think

1001
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: probably by the time this episode comes out, So check

1002
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: it out on Cafe Awesome. That's exciting. You can follow

1003
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Caitlin Toronte, follow us on a

1004
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: Bechdel cast as well. Can email us and then the

1005
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: rate and review and subscribe. Nikki, thank you so much,

1006
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: you guys, See you guys round Bye bye bye,