Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the first episode of Car Drivers
Speaker 1: Into Cars, a podcast from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio, brought to
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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're talking about Lamborghini's Urticon Strado. The
Speaker 1: Lamborghini Uricon Strato is version of the Uricon supercar that's
Speaker 1: designed to leave the asphalt and play in the dirt
Speaker 1: to get an Uricon. To do that, the suspension gets
Speaker 1: a lyft to increase ground clearance. It rides on special
Speaker 1: all terrain tires made just for the Strato, and there
Speaker 1: are a number of other changes that make it playful
Speaker 1: on unpaved roads. It remains a mid engine beast for
Speaker 1: the six hundred two horsepower V ten, but unlike other Hurricans,
Speaker 1: it prioritizes fun over racetrack lap times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a crazy car. We've seen off road
Speaker 2: versions of sports cars before, so called Safari versions of
Speaker 2: nine to eleven's actually, you know, dating back to the
Speaker 2: eighties and the original Parie to car races, those portion
Speaker 2: nine to fifty threes and nine to fifty nine's and
Speaker 2: the beautiful Rothman's Livery. I mean, that's what made me
Speaker 2: want to start smoking, was those Rothman's Livery cars.
Speaker 1: So this is not a new concept. It's coming from
Speaker 1: an unexpected place. Despite their background in building tractors from
Speaker 1: the beginning, Elmberginny also as the history of the L
Speaker 1: two right, they also did some off road stuff, so
Speaker 1: they know what the importance of being off road and
Speaker 1: playing off road is all about. But making an Uricon
Speaker 1: into an off roader was really I mean it's not
Speaker 1: really an off roader, but like a car that's happy
Speaker 1: to go onto dirt roads and play like a rally car.
Speaker 1: Is I mean, at least for me, totally unexpected.
Speaker 2: I blame the Dubai market, but it's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can just throw it into a dirt
Speaker 1: road and there's no guilt, And it has the fender
Speaker 1: flares of like a Subaru outback, and it's got some
Speaker 1: special tires too, which are pretty cool that allow it
Speaker 1: to do that. And you know, there's not really that
Speaker 1: much of a trade off on road because the limits
Speaker 1: of the car are so high. The performance is so great,
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to use all that performance of a
Speaker 1: standard Uricon on the road. So dialing it back just
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, you're still driving a lot
Speaker 1: faster than most cars can go.
Speaker 2: I mean, Tony, is there ever any guilt in this
Speaker 2: line of work? A dealer of used exotic cars once
Speaker 2: told me the difference between a Ferrari owner and a
Speaker 2: Lamborghini owner is that the Ferrari owner will have had
Speaker 2: a car in mind for ten years. And this is
Speaker 2: a guy who's paid off his mortgage. Totally responsible citizen
Speaker 2: takes out his recycling every Sunday and he's plotted in
Speaker 2: schemed to get this car. He might have to buy
Speaker 2: a couple Californias to get it, but he's got a plan.
Speaker 2: Whereas the Lamborghini guy fell into all this dough and
Speaker 2: visa a Lamborghini the first one you can get, and
Speaker 2: in eighteen months he's dead, broker in jail. So that's
Speaker 2: sort of.
Speaker 1: So it feeds a healthy market of lightly used Lamborghinis,
Speaker 1: I guess exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's the brand differentiation. But I will say, you know,
Speaker 2: Lamborghini has become very professionalized in the time that Audi
Speaker 2: has owned it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've totally They've come such a long way.
Speaker 2: Ends and the Uricon is really a fully realized lineup.
Speaker 2: You know, there's four of them. It starts with the Technica,
Speaker 2: then you've got the Evo Spider, then you have this Strato.
Speaker 2: I'm going kind of in ascending order of price, and
Speaker 2: at the top you have the Sto and all except
Speaker 2: the Strato makes six hundred and thirty one horsepower. The Strato,
Speaker 2: because of some of the air and take stuff, only
Speaker 2: makes six hundred and two only. Oh that's funny, funny
Speaker 2: for my purposes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the tires also limited to just
Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty miles an hour because they're
Speaker 1: just that's how fast you can go apparently on all
Speaker 1: terrain tires.
Speaker 2: And these are super cool Alterarin tires. They're bridge stones.
Speaker 1: They weren't that far off. I mean in terms of grip.
Speaker 1: Most of the oroicons were tests that are one point
Speaker 1: one g somewhere in there, and this was at point
Speaker 1: ninety six. So it's not even that much off of that,
Speaker 1: and that's more grip than you can probably comfortably use
Speaker 1: on the road. So why do you think they're building
Speaker 1: this car? Starrato means dirt road, Yeah, right, So why
Speaker 1: do you think they're building this thing? I guess because
Speaker 1: it's fun. I mean it also increases the We've often
Speaker 1: talked about this like the bandwidth of cars. It increases
Speaker 1: the band with this car, like you can drive it
Speaker 1: as a daily driver, and the rides better. You've got
Speaker 1: more ground clearance, you don't have to worry about when
Speaker 1: you're going in and out of driveways, when you're going
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of a gas station or something.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the taking it at
Speaker 1: just the perfect angle. There's less to worry about with
Speaker 1: this car, and that makes it a more pleasant car
Speaker 1: to drive on a daily basis, even though you give
Speaker 1: up some performance on the top, but that's performance that
Speaker 1: you're probably just going to use on a racetrack anyway.
Speaker 1: So as a road car, this is probably the best Oricon.
Speaker 1: It's funny, it's like this is the craziest one. It
Speaker 1: looks totally bizarre, you know.
Speaker 2: It looks like a cross between one of those Liberty
Speaker 2: Walk lambows and like one of the Angry Birds pigs,
Speaker 2: you know, with those little led lights on the front.
Speaker 1: There's some super u there's some super in there for sure.
Speaker 2: Out back wilderness. Yeah yeah, but in many ways it's
Speaker 2: the sanest one because roads are terrible in this country.
Speaker 2: It definitely improves the ride, and like you said, it's
Speaker 2: kind of a more rugged supercar for this modern world.
Speaker 1: And looks wise, you don't give up anything because it's
Speaker 1: still an uricon underneath. Sound Wise, you don't give up anything,
Speaker 1: so the experience is almost exactly the same. You just
Speaker 1: don't have those really really high limits of grip from
Speaker 1: the other tires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when are you really use it? When you're
Speaker 2: ever going to exercise that. There's so much built and
Speaker 2: capability in these cars and it's just perceived performance. Like,
Speaker 2: no Lambeau driver is ever going to chuck this thing
Speaker 2: into a turn and feel the point ninety six geese.
Speaker 2: They might feel it briefly before the tree arrived, before
Speaker 2: the tree arived, right yeah, I mean so it's all
Speaker 2: kind of largely theoretical.
Speaker 1: And it's also the last V ten. It's the last
Speaker 1: ten on the market. There's no other V tens.
Speaker 2: This is the sendoff naturally aspirated five point two liters
Speaker 2: V ten. What an awesome thing it is. I mean, man,
Speaker 2: they're all going away. Everything is turbo charged. Now everything
Speaker 2: is downsized or electrified, So you lose that linearity of
Speaker 2: the powertrain, you lose that super high character VT all
Speaker 2: that intake noise, I know, you lose so much of that,
Speaker 2: and and the exhaust too, exactly.
Speaker 1: It's special. It feels like the last of something. And
Speaker 1: the Serrato is kind of Lamborghini's exclamation point on the
Speaker 1: Uricon brand, like we sort of did this model. It
Speaker 1: was spectacular, and now we're doing this really silly, crazy
Speaker 1: thing that turns out works really well on road.
Speaker 2: It's like the best one. Yeah, it's a I mean
Speaker 2: a decade long run for the Uricon. That's amazing, because
Speaker 2: supercars sort of age quickly, you know, they have a
Speaker 2: quick sort of cell by date. But Lamborghini has done
Speaker 2: a good job of keeping new versions, coming new variants.
Speaker 1: And keeping it relevant, just tweaking the style a little,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if you see a Lamborghini on the road,
Speaker 1: I still get a little weak in the knees like that.
Speaker 1: That's completely like flat body basically. I mean, it's still
Speaker 1: following the wedge plan from the late sixties early seventies
Speaker 1: what a supercar looks like, and it still works.
Speaker 2: The Miura, you know, it's still I think the most
Speaker 2: beautiful supercar of all time, transverse twelve cylinder in the
Speaker 2: middle of the car, and it's so low and just
Speaker 2: extreme looking. And then obviously the Kuntash that filed after it.
Speaker 2: You know, Kuntash meaning holy shit in Italian or thereabouts.
Speaker 2: And that's what these cars are supposed to do. They're
Speaker 2: supposed to like grab you by the scruff of the neck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you pay attention to Lamborghini's and you
Speaker 1: certainly pay attention to this one. Yeah, it's a spectacular car.
Speaker 1: It gets a ton of attention on the road too.
Speaker 1: And this one's orange. This one's orange and it has
Speaker 1: stripes on it. Are those strictly necessary? The stripes? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the stripes. You gotta have this. It's
Speaker 1: got a sixty three on the on the hood too,
Speaker 1: which commemorates the founding year of Lamborghini. It's not a
Speaker 1: race thing at all, it's just it's.
Speaker 2: Just starting now. I mean, they do get your attention.
Speaker 2: They've stayed with that sort of angular stealth fighter styling,
Speaker 2: and I think they've evolved it in a cool way.
Speaker 2: There's a tremendous amount of visual interest in this car.
Speaker 2: I don'd love to go look at it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go take a look.
Speaker 2: Cool okay, man, I mean look at this thing.
Speaker 1: It's wild. What is this color?
Speaker 2: This color is Aurancio Sampto.
Speaker 1: I think you might be able to get this on
Speaker 1: a cross track. I don't know. It won't look it
Speaker 1: won't look like this good. It's got to realize glow
Speaker 1: to it. But I think this is a cross track call.
Speaker 1: It's Xanthem orange.
Speaker 2: That cost that's only fourteen thousand dollars Okay, the options
Speaker 2: on this car are insane. I mean the starting price
Speaker 2: without destination delivery, which is two seventy three one seven
Speaker 2: seven on this one, I mean on the Stato this
Speaker 2: one is three hundred and eighty four thousand, three hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety four dollars, so over one hundred thousand options
Speaker 2: and for that you get a whole lot of bullshit.
Speaker 2: You get okay, you get the delivery. The stripes on
Speaker 2: the front.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are painted in, which is pretty nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it seventeen thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean they probably had the
Speaker 1: special painteds.
Speaker 2: I mean, the visual impact of this car is undeniable.
Speaker 2: You've got these big fender flares, you got the LED
Speaker 2: lights in.
Speaker 1: Front, you have this roof rack when the tires look
Speaker 1: real knobby, I mean the wheels are I think the
Speaker 1: wheels are a size down on the regular Uricon. Just
Speaker 1: to give you a little bit more sidewall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a forty series tire front and back, a
Speaker 2: bridge stone.
Speaker 1: Dueler yeah to tire I got.
Speaker 2: I mean, the whole impression is sort of like a
Speaker 2: cop car for Mars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It does have that vibe too, it
Speaker 1: doesn't it.
Speaker 2: And look there's a snorkel at the front.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the snorkels borrow from the sto And I
Speaker 1: guess the story is, you know, the air intakes on
Speaker 1: the regular oricon are too low, so it might take
Speaker 1: in too much dirt or gravel or water. The downside
Speaker 1: is you can't see out the back of this thing,
Speaker 1: like directly behind you. You can't see out the rear
Speaker 1: view mirror. Is there a camera or no, there's no car,
Speaker 1: so you're just on your side view mirrors only. Oh great,
Speaker 1: Well it's that old Italian race car driver saying, you
Speaker 1: know what's behind me doesn't matter. That's right.
Speaker 2: No one's gonna catch up with this thing. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I really have. I'm having a problem with the the
Speaker 2: stripes for seventeen grand. I don't think they add much
Speaker 2: to it visually. In fact, I think they make it
Speaker 2: look a little more kick Carl like.
Speaker 1: And the sixty three. What does that cost Eddie? The
Speaker 1: sixty three?
Speaker 2: I believe that is seven No, that's yeah, that's seventy
Speaker 2: seventy four hundreds for that little piece of paint. Additional
Speaker 2: lights on front twenty six hundred smartphone interface.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't get that standard No. Thirty two
Speaker 1: in basically every car for sale.
Speaker 2: Right, a Nissan Versa.
Speaker 1: Those floor mats in aluminum, fourteen hundred dollars. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: totally worth it.
Speaker 2: Dark chrome and carbon what is that just dark chrome
Speaker 2: and carbon dashboard?
Speaker 1: I don't know, it must be yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, the fire extinguis sure. Guess how much that is?
Speaker 1: Two hundred, three hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Nine hundred dollars. You know, I did the Lamborghini factor
Speaker 2: in there, right, So they take one from the Italian
Speaker 2: home depot.
Speaker 1: And the Lamborghini sticker on it presumably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then charge ten times you'd pay there. So
Speaker 2: that's your three hundred and eighty five thousand dollars Lamborghini
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: I mean it looks lifted. I mean you can tell
Speaker 1: the one point seven inches of ride height that this
Speaker 1: has over the standard car. You can really tell that
Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, definitely, But it doesn't detract from the style.
Speaker 1: It still looks still looks really cool, and it's still
Speaker 1: ridiculous as low.
Speaker 2: And you know what's kind of cool about these fender
Speaker 2: additional pieces is they sort of minimize the rear height
Speaker 2: of the car visually, it just kind of shrinks it
Speaker 2: all down. And in mid engine cars, that sort of
Speaker 2: section or area between the tail edge of the door
Speaker 2: and the rear wheel can look really big.
Speaker 1: Piece and they're going to minimize that there. I think
Speaker 1: that's what the Aztec designers, So that's what they claimed
Speaker 1: about the cladding.
Speaker 2: That was for the mid engine as Yes.
Speaker 1: Right of course it almost made it as a production
Speaker 1: and just Pontiac went out of.
Speaker 2: Business and from the back hotly smokes. I mean, look
Speaker 2: at this with the exhaust shooting out the back, minimizing
Speaker 2: the length of the runners.
Speaker 1: If you pop the engine compartment lid, Lamborghini still puts
Speaker 1: on a show for the engine. Yeah, and it still
Speaker 1: looks spectacular. It's not blocked by anything. There's no big
Speaker 1: plastic shroud covering it. You just have the intake runners there,
Speaker 1: it says Lamborghini.
Speaker 2: Right, and it's fed through the top through that snorkel.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The ride height just makes it so that you
Speaker 1: can drive this car, you know, up a driveway, perfect,
Speaker 1: you can drive it in snow. This is the four
Speaker 1: season Lamborghini.
Speaker 2: Car, right, take it anywhere and the vacation.
Speaker 1: I mean the tires, the all season tread powdern it
Speaker 1: doesn't good, it looks, and they're going to last a
Speaker 1: lot longer than any other Lamborghini to that's true.
Speaker 2: The only thing is, I mean, how much room is
Speaker 2: there in the front for not a lot. That's a backpack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's like a notebook. Yeah that's small.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is such a cool concept. I hope
Speaker 1: Lamborghini puts it on the rest of their cars.
Speaker 2: My little the Eurus is begging, URIs is begging for
Speaker 2: it right there.
Speaker 1: Off roader needs to be a Strato style off roader,
Speaker 1: and that additional width really Yeah, they increase the front
Speaker 1: track and the your track. Yeah, fender flares are always
Speaker 1: a win.
Speaker 2: I agree, But I'm a chatt of the eighties exactly. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: let's get.
Speaker 1: In and drive it. Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Oh god, let's squeeze it myself.
Speaker 1: Endo, this.
Speaker 2: Can't fire it up? Yeah? Okay, all right, Tony, can
Speaker 2: you believe that we're getting paid right now? We're on
Speaker 2: the breging clock and now we're.
Speaker 1: At the ten best routes where we do many of
Speaker 1: our vehicle handling value.
Speaker 2: Ready to properly exercise it. Take this thing through the
Speaker 2: Chubba chetta checkane, that's.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, the world famous, Right, let's do it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds so sounds pretty good.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Oh my god, dude, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You don't lose much acceleration versus the regular oricon
Speaker 1: I mean, the engine response is there, is there and
Speaker 1: around You're like, how is this a supercar?
Speaker 2: And then you get in You're like, oh, okay, that's
Speaker 2: a supercar. You just have to make sure that we
Speaker 2: don't get arrested.
Speaker 4: So the handling limits are still high enough for.
Speaker 1: Public road driving. You can still go incredibly fast, but
Speaker 1: you're still well within the limits of the car.
Speaker 2: It just does not beat you up. And this sort
Speaker 2: of poses an existential question. Is it really a Lamborghini
Speaker 2: if it doesn't make you suffer, if.
Speaker 1: There's no abuse to it? Yeah, I mean because the
Speaker 1: kutash amazing car, beautiful car, important car historically, but it's
Speaker 1: probably not something you always want to drive. You're probably
Speaker 1: pretty relieved when you step out of it. And is
Speaker 1: that bit of pain? I mean, I guess that ours
Speaker 1: is a pain free Lamborghini. But then people have questioned
Speaker 1: it's Lamborghini as too.
Speaker 2: It's moving around. Chassis is communicating beautifully with you. The
Speaker 2: steering is actually you know, look it's not hydraulic assists.
Speaker 1: But it feels good. I mean, but it feels really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it feels as good as any car on
Speaker 1: the market today. There's nothing like that engine sound, naturally
Speaker 1: aspirated V ten engine sound. It's just it's otherworldly. Let's
Speaker 1: hear it a little bit and it reps to eighty
Speaker 1: five hundred rpm, all five point two liters of it.
Speaker 1: Switch it to sport mode and that opens up the
Speaker 1: exhaust valve, so it's even louder. Oh nice, Okay, So.
Speaker 2: We have three modes strata which means straight right, sport,
Speaker 2: which is sport.
Speaker 1: And then that dials in addition to making the car
Speaker 1: a little louder, it dials back the stability control and
Speaker 1: then puts a more aggressive shifting strategy for the automatic,
Speaker 1: for the dual fletch automatic. And then you've got rally yes,
Speaker 1: which is for the dirt. Oh it's okay, we'll save that.
Speaker 1: That has its own special stability control programming which accounts for,
Speaker 1: you know, the slipperiness of a gravel road, so you
Speaker 1: can do some rally stuff. But still have a safety
Speaker 1: net to catch you before you go flying off.
Speaker 2: I mean the interior is really great in this thing.
Speaker 1: I spacious too, Yeah, like there's tons of foot room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is totally comfortable. It looks great.
Speaker 2: You've got alcantara over everything.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, beautiful, worst.
Speaker 2: Stitching, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a hundred. Let's not.
Speaker 2: Anger the locals here.
Speaker 1: Under kilometers already clear, Yeah, of course, totally legal.
Speaker 2: And you know you're sort of tempted to go faster
Speaker 2: in this thing because of all the ride compliance. You're
Speaker 2: not really worried about how much it's gonna wreck the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very true, and I'm sure that's true on dirt roads. Well,
Speaker 1: let's find one. This is our street. Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to drive. Okay, let's do a swap here.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set it up for your tone, put it
Speaker 2: in rally mode.
Speaker 1: Excellent, and uh not even gonna turn it off. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for giving up the wheel, Eddie.
Speaker 2: Well it was tough to do, but for you anything,
Speaker 2: it didn't take that much convincing.
Speaker 1: So here you are on a little dirt road off
Speaker 1: of the ten bus loop. Okay, now, Tonyang. The ride,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, It's like it's shocking. And also I feel well,
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit of guilt, but I feel
Speaker 1: a lot less guilt than if I was driving an
Speaker 1: Uricon down this road.
Speaker 2: Well, you definitely need the uh, the plastic protective film.
Speaker 2: There's a good corner up here. It will be sluet sideways.
Speaker 2: In the grand tradition of rally car driving.
Speaker 1: I we'll see what we can do up here. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of, lets you catch it. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Did these that pothole right in the middle of the
Speaker 2: cars just it just doesn't care, doesn't care.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is so amazing. Yeah, they all oil drive
Speaker 1: just makes like no problem, and the altering tires just
Speaker 1: work beautifully on this.
Speaker 2: And it just so expands the performance envelope of the
Speaker 2: con you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how many of the they're making
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred and ninety nine of these fourteen how many
Speaker 1: owners will actually drive them on a dirt road with
Speaker 1: a little bit of anger. I wonder they're missing out
Speaker 1: if they don't. I know, that's the whole point. Great
Speaker 1: side slide.
Speaker 2: I mean you were looking through the side windows there
Speaker 2: to go straight, but it's so for I mean.
Speaker 4: It's just it slides so easily and happily. Oh gently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fortunately there aren't as many corners as we'd like to. Oh,
Speaker 1: look at the plume of dust coming out. Amazing. Be
Speaker 1: interesting to see what Lamborghini does to as a follow
Speaker 1: up to the Hurrican. It's supposed to be coming later
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean it'll have some sort of
Speaker 1: electrification to it, right as in a hybrid, sort of
Speaker 1: performance hybrid way. But it remains to be seen if
Speaker 1: it'll look as good, if it'll drive this well.
Speaker 2: This is a real high point for the brand. I
Speaker 2: think this car lasted so long because it was so good.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's time is run out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a nice sendoff. They save the best
Speaker 1: for last. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2: Hey did he know that you can sink your Apple
Speaker 2: Watch to this car?
Speaker 1: No, I don't have an Apple Watch.
Speaker 2: And it'll give you a heart rate information, so if
Speaker 2: you have a cardiac in farnction, it'll tell you.
Speaker 1: Well, it'll be due to the car. No entirely possible.
Speaker 4: Oh man, this thing just loves to drift so good,
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 1: It wants to go sideways. The steering is really nice.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not exactly a light car. No,
Speaker 1: it's like.
Speaker 2: Thirty six twenty nine. I think this one is, but
Speaker 2: sure feels light on its feet.
Speaker 1: And I let to point out that we wait that
Speaker 1: because Lamborghini will put out these ridiculous dry numbers where
Speaker 1: like it's like with the car ways on the Moon
Speaker 1: on the second Tuesday of every month with no fluids
Speaker 1: in it, and we actually weigh the cars. We fill
Speaker 1: them up with gas and we weigh them so we
Speaker 1: know exactly what they weigh, so we could see through
Speaker 1: their bs. We're back on the asphalt. Now, excellent, I'll
Speaker 1: take a couple of corners and see what this is like. Cool.
Speaker 1: Let's just hear that.
Speaker 4: Engine when we're time. Damn so good.
Speaker 1: The revs just built so quickly. The engine is just
Speaker 1: completely unfazed by this car, Like zero effect on this thing.
Speaker 1: It's almost like an electric car. But sounds like that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the last of the V tens.
Speaker 1: Long may it run? All right, let's pull over before
Speaker 1: we get into any trouble.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Yeah, we got away with our dignity
Speaker 2: and our lives.
Speaker 1: That was fun. This is really fun. Great great Cardinally
Speaker 1: four hundred. Would you buy one? I would buy one.
Speaker 2: Well, that was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that chopper that we saw was
Speaker 1: not related to what we did. I hope not.
Speaker 2: After the break, we'll be speaking with Lamborghini's chief technical officer,
Speaker 2: Reuven Moore. He's the guy who signs off on these cars,
Speaker 2: and he has a lot of cool things to say
Speaker 2: about this one. Stay tuned, Welcome back to Car and
Speaker 2: Drivers into Cars. Now we're sitting down with Lamborghini's chief
Speaker 2: technical officer, Reuven Moore. Hi, Ruvin, thanks so much for
Speaker 2: joining us. We want to talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: the Urkan Strado as a sendoff for this incredible run
Speaker 2: of V ten powered sports cars. Why did you decide
Speaker 2: to go with sort of an off road rally inspired
Speaker 2: version as the last version of Urakan instead of an
Speaker 2: ultimate high performance car.
Speaker 6: First of all, let me answer in a more let
Speaker 6: me say, general way. Lamborghini was in the past always
Speaker 6: surprising the people, and therefore it fits perfectly general approach.
Speaker 6: But I can also give you a little bit insights
Speaker 6: about the basic idea of the Huracan Sterrato because it
Speaker 6: was born really let me say, some years ago the idea.
Speaker 6: We recognized that the Urus is the most fun to
Speaker 6: drive on crevel road, how incredible it could be to
Speaker 6: have cars in these conditions. We were very in love
Speaker 6: with the old rally era, so also about cars like
Speaker 6: the Lanchestrados. We were so excited about the outcome that
Speaker 6: we said, okay, but we have to bring this also
Speaker 6: to the market. So this was like the idea was born.
Speaker 6: Now coming finally back to your original question, from my
Speaker 6: point of view, it's also fitting perfectly as the last
Speaker 6: version of our fantastic history of let me say of
Speaker 6: the whole because it's the sense of driving fun, not
Speaker 6: only on the racetrack and from the pure performance point
Speaker 6: of view, but driving fun also in the sense of
Speaker 6: playful character, achievable performance. Still a very fast car, but
Speaker 6: a very playful car. For my vision, Lumbo is not
Speaker 6: only about the pure performance. Lumbo is always about driver excitement,
Speaker 6: driver involvement and the best in glass driving experience.
Speaker 1: Do you foresee a rally or a Strato version becoming
Speaker 1: a normal thing in either the Urakan successor lineup or
Speaker 1: in the Rivolto's lineup? I mean, this is this something that
Speaker 1: Lamborghini wants to continue pursuing in the future.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it's for sure never coming this.
Speaker 6: I would also not exclude I can exclude that it's
Speaker 6: a part of the standard line up, like performance oriented version,
Speaker 6: because as I said, it's always a little bit about
Speaker 6: surprising the people doing something different that the others are
Speaker 6: not doing. More from the technical point of view, it
Speaker 6: has to fit also to the character of the basic car.
Speaker 6: If you have driven it, it's really like a clove
Speaker 6: that is fitting to you and enables also to have
Speaker 6: really driving fun, not only the racetrack but also in
Speaker 6: the mountain road or something. And this is not possible
Speaker 6: with every car concept.
Speaker 1: Were there any internal fights to get this car made,
Speaker 1: that's to say, were there any people within the company
Speaker 1: that could not understand why you would want to make
Speaker 1: an Urcan into an Urcan s Dorado. No, so unanimous.
Speaker 1: It was a unanimous everybody got it right after bat
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 6: If you do it via PowerPoint, sometimes it's hard to
Speaker 6: transport this kind of message, but we speak about emotions,
Speaker 6: and emotions you cannot describe on the PowerPoint. But if
Speaker 6: you bring all the relevant people, marketing colleagues, stakeholder does
Speaker 6: all the decision. Make us to the car, you can
Speaker 6: feel it, and therefore everyone was convinced.
Speaker 2: After this experience, I know another member of the group
Speaker 2: does a similar car, the portion nine to eleven DA car,
Speaker 2: and I was wondering if there was any sort of
Speaker 2: cross pollination there between the teams. Did you call on Porsche?
Speaker 2: It all for any expertise.
Speaker 6: To be honest, it was really one a percent only
Speaker 6: by chance to pick. The cars were developed more or
Speaker 6: less at the same time and also presented to the market.
Speaker 6: I think with the time difference one month or something
Speaker 6: like this, but this was not blend during the development.
Speaker 6: There was also not a real exchange. For sure, we're
Speaker 6: always in contact with the colleagues within the volks One group,
Speaker 6: exchanging expertise and competence, but regarding the specific application, the
Speaker 6: specific setup of the car, there was not an exchange
Speaker 6: because our Straato project was a kind of undercover project.
Speaker 6: It was not starting with the idea that was coming
Speaker 6: as a request from the market, because this was a
Speaker 6: kind of anticipation of something that could be cool. But
Speaker 6: if you drive both cars, you will confirm that the
Speaker 6: character of the cars is still different enough.
Speaker 1: Ruven, is there a particular part of the Stato, which
Speaker 1: you're particularly proud, Like every time you see it, touch it,
Speaker 1: use it, you're like, wow, yes, I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: that got in.
Speaker 6: What I really like is that we were able to
Speaker 6: industrialize our basic idea because there were some challenges regarding
Speaker 6: the tire. Development did really a super good job to
Speaker 6: bring a tire on the market that was before simply
Speaker 6: not available. The car is still fast on a standard track,
Speaker 6: is still let me say, very easy to control. You
Speaker 6: have also grip services. That we were able really to
Speaker 6: transfer the basic idea to the serious production car. This
Speaker 6: is something I'm super proud because the car is not
Speaker 6: the show off case like some people might think that
Speaker 6: I ever driven the car, because the car is much
Speaker 6: more about additional over fenders or a little bit off style,
Speaker 6: the off road style and all the things they were
Speaker 6: coming later. The first thing was really the driveability, the
Speaker 6: different setup philosophy, the different talk distribution, and all the
Speaker 6: dynamics that I'm making this car so exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and our testing. I think it's the only
Speaker 1: all terrain tire that's even gotten close to a G
Speaker 1: and they go one hundred and sixty miles an hour.
Speaker 2: So what are you driving every day? Reuven? What is
Speaker 2: your daily driver? Lamborghini.
Speaker 6: One nice part of my job is that I have
Speaker 6: a lot of opportunities to drive our of a tastic product.
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to drive not every day. It's also wrong,
Speaker 6: but I'm driving a lot of different cars, you know,
Speaker 6: because for me it's part of my job also to
Speaker 6: have an understanding about all our product range. So starting
Speaker 6: from the Urus, but also Steato. The last car I
Speaker 6: was driving to the airport was a Strato by the way,
Speaker 6: but also some competitor cars because it's that I have
Speaker 6: also the personal feeding, the personal touching point about the
Speaker 6: driveability of our competitors. This is part of being professional
Speaker 6: and also understanding what is going around.
Speaker 2: How big of a bag could you fit into the Strata?
Speaker 6: It was at least sufficient for my cabin trolley that
Speaker 6: I needed for this trip to US. And also this
Speaker 6: was in this case.
Speaker 2: Enough Okay, international travel, it's possible. In the Stererrado.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned all the Lamborghini automobiles you've driven, So
Speaker 1: I've got to ask Mura or Kuntash or you're a
Speaker 1: Mura person or you a Kuntash person.
Speaker 6: Even if some people now will hate me, but definitively
Speaker 6: the Coon.
Speaker 1: Touch excellent, that's the answer I would give.
Speaker 6: But to be honest, I mean, since I was born
Speaker 6: seventy nine, so my favorite automotive that influenced me when
Speaker 6: I was young is for sure the late eighties early nineties,
Speaker 6: I have to say. So therefore the coon Touch, but
Speaker 6: also the Arblow was something that was the poster in
Speaker 6: my room in my parents' house. So the kon Dutch
Speaker 6: for instance, probably you know the Hollywood movie Cannonball Run.
Speaker 2: Of course, definitely some.
Speaker 6: Weeks ago I had the opportunity to drive exactly the
Speaker 6: car of the movie, and this was something that I
Speaker 6: had really goosebumps because I remember this was the first
Speaker 6: time I can remember that I was in touch as
Speaker 6: a child with Lamborghini because it was so cool movie
Speaker 6: and even today I like a lort. Let me say
Speaker 6: the opening scene with a black coon doudg. Therefore, I
Speaker 6: can tell you this is something that I really loved.
Speaker 2: And I'd also be remiss if I didn't mention that
Speaker 2: Cannonball Run before it was a movie, started as a
Speaker 2: story in Current Driver. It started as a race across
Speaker 2: the country. Yeah, Dan Gurney and Brociates in the three
Speaker 2: sixty five Daytona Ferrari.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is incredible the story, to be honest,
Speaker 6: it's part of autovotive culture. This is exactly what I'm
Speaker 6: so fascinating by cars, because cars are generating this kind
Speaker 6: of let me say, common experience. Even if this is
Speaker 6: something that makes for my point of view, the automotive
Speaker 6: culture so exceptional because there are only few pieces of you,
Speaker 6: let me say, things that are generating this kind of
Speaker 6: let me say memories. You know you will not probably
Speaker 6: will not let me say, recognize a fridge or something
Speaker 6: of the of the eighties. But the cars, I mean,
Speaker 6: this is always something that you want to have and
Speaker 6: that stays in your memories.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, what was your first car? You've had
Speaker 1: some Lamborghini posters on the wall, but what was your
Speaker 1: first car when you got your driver's license.
Speaker 6: My first car was for sure, far far away from
Speaker 6: a lump from being a Lamborghini. My very first car
Speaker 6: was a Ford Escort station wagon super less power or
Speaker 6: low power car. But I had the opportunity at this
Speaker 6: time to drive the car of my mom a lot
Speaker 6: and she had a Pulsue two or five GTI one
Speaker 6: point nine, and.
Speaker 2: This was for sure sweet at this time.
Speaker 1: And you know I was.
Speaker 6: Born close to the front of France, or in my
Speaker 6: neighborhood there were a lot of French cars or Renuclio
Speaker 6: Pugo two or five. Therefore, I was happy that at
Speaker 6: least during the weekend I was allowed to drive it.
Speaker 2: Love it. That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great car to borrow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true, and even today it's a lot of
Speaker 6: driving fund even if for sure from today purposes it's
Speaker 6: not as fast, but the Ki is very light, the
Speaker 6: car is let me say, very adri the Cai is
Speaker 6: very direct, and it's very houristic compared to today's mainstream cars.
Speaker 6: Let me formulate it in this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's analogy. You're right. This was great, Thank you, Reuvin.
Speaker 6: You're welcome.
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Speaker 1: That's the most fun I've ever had in a Lamborghini,
Speaker 1: and I've driven every Lamborghini made in the past twenty years.
Speaker 1: I've driven Murcielago's Gayardo's Uricans eventa doors and the URIs
Speaker 1: this is the wildest Lamborghini and that makes it the
Speaker 1: most Lamborghini of the Lamborghinis.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, said Tone. I mean it's as crazy as
Speaker 2: anything these guys have ever produced, Kuntash included, but it's
Speaker 2: way more drivable than anything. This nutty has a right
Speaker 2: to be Hell, I'd buy one. Be sure to tune
Speaker 2: in next week when we'll be taking a look at
Speaker 2: the accurate integrat type s and talking with Accura product
Speaker 2: planner Jonathan Rivers.
Speaker 3: Early on in development had a very ulterior motive to
Speaker 3: push our development engineers and they started benchmarking the M
Speaker 3: two and all these cars that have these berbos and crackles,
Speaker 3: and they're like, this is what people like, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 3: give us, give us lots of that.
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