1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the first episode of Car Drivers 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Into Cars, a podcast from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio, brought to 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: you by eBay Motors. I'm Tony ki Roger, the editor 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: in chief of Car and Driver, and I'm joined by 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: my co host, former editor in chief and current Chief 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Brand and Content Officer, Eddie Alterman, and together We're Into Cars. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Each episode of this podcast covers a new car that 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: we think is worthy of your attention. The cars we 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: select may feature a novel design, cutting edge engineering, or 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 2: something entirely new. We'll cover the stories behind the cars, 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: answering the whys and exploring the whats to bring you 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: into the experience. We'll drive the things and let you 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: listen in, and then we'll sit down with the people 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: who actually made the cars to answer our questions about them. 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Come along for the ride and you'll hear it all 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the ugly and the way 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: that only Car and Driver delivers. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're talking about Lamborghini's Urticon Strado. The 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Lamborghini Uricon Strato is version of the Uricon supercar that's 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: designed to leave the asphalt and play in the dirt 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: to get an Uricon. To do that, the suspension gets 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: a lyft to increase ground clearance. It rides on special 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: all terrain tires made just for the Strato, and there 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: are a number of other changes that make it playful 25 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: on unpaved roads. It remains a mid engine beast for 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: the six hundred two horsepower V ten, but unlike other Hurricans, 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: it prioritizes fun over racetrack lap times. 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a crazy car. We've seen off road 29 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: versions of sports cars before, so called Safari versions of 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: nine to eleven's actually, you know, dating back to the 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: eighties and the original Parie to car races, those portion 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: nine to fifty threes and nine to fifty nine's and 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: the beautiful Rothman's Livery. I mean, that's what made me 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: want to start smoking, was those Rothman's Livery cars. 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: So this is not a new concept. It's coming from 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: an unexpected place. Despite their background in building tractors from 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: the beginning, Elmberginny also as the history of the L 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: two right, they also did some off road stuff, so 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: they know what the importance of being off road and 40 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: playing off road is all about. But making an Uricon 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: into an off roader was really I mean it's not 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: really an off roader, but like a car that's happy 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: to go onto dirt roads and play like a rally car. 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: Is I mean, at least for me, totally unexpected. 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: I blame the Dubai market, but it's pretty wild. 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: I mean, you can just throw it into a dirt 47 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: road and there's no guilt, And it has the fender 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: flares of like a Subaru outback, and it's got some 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: special tires too, which are pretty cool that allow it 50 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: to do that. And you know, there's not really that 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: much of a trade off on road because the limits 52 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: of the car are so high. The performance is so great, 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to use all that performance of a 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: standard Uricon on the road. So dialing it back just 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, you're still driving a lot 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: faster than most cars can go. 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Tony, is there ever any guilt in this 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: line of work? A dealer of used exotic cars once 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: told me the difference between a Ferrari owner and a 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Lamborghini owner is that the Ferrari owner will have had 61 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: a car in mind for ten years. And this is 62 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: a guy who's paid off his mortgage. Totally responsible citizen 63 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: takes out his recycling every Sunday and he's plotted in 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: schemed to get this car. He might have to buy 65 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: a couple Californias to get it, but he's got a plan. 66 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: Whereas the Lamborghini guy fell into all this dough and 67 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: visa a Lamborghini the first one you can get, and 68 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: in eighteen months he's dead, broker in jail. So that's 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: sort of. 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: So it feeds a healthy market of lightly used Lamborghinis, 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: I guess exactly. 72 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 2: So that's the brand differentiation. But I will say, you know, 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: Lamborghini has become very professionalized in the time that Audi 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 2: has owned it. 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've totally They've come such a long way. 76 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: Ends and the Uricon is really a fully realized lineup. 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: You know, there's four of them. It starts with the Technica, 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: then you've got the Evo Spider, then you have this Strato. 79 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: I'm going kind of in ascending order of price, and 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: at the top you have the Sto and all except 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: the Strato makes six hundred and thirty one horsepower. The Strato, 82 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: because of some of the air and take stuff, only 83 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: makes six hundred and two only. Oh that's funny, funny 84 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: for my purposes. 85 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the tires also limited to just 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty miles an hour because they're 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: just that's how fast you can go apparently on all 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: terrain tires. 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: And these are super cool Alterarin tires. They're bridge stones. 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: They weren't that far off. I mean in terms of grip. 91 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Most of the oroicons were tests that are one point 92 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: one g somewhere in there, and this was at point 93 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: ninety six. So it's not even that much off of that, 94 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: and that's more grip than you can probably comfortably use 95 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: on the road. So why do you think they're building 96 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: this car? Starrato means dirt road, Yeah, right, So why 97 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: do you think they're building this thing? I guess because 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: it's fun. I mean it also increases the We've often 99 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: talked about this like the bandwidth of cars. It increases 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: the band with this car, like you can drive it 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: as a daily driver, and the rides better. You've got 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: more ground clearance, you don't have to worry about when 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: you're going in and out of driveways, when you're going 104 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, in and out of a gas station or something. 105 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about the taking it at 106 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: just the perfect angle. There's less to worry about with 107 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: this car, and that makes it a more pleasant car 108 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: to drive on a daily basis, even though you give 109 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: up some performance on the top, but that's performance that 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: you're probably just going to use on a racetrack anyway. 111 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: So as a road car, this is probably the best Oricon. 112 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: It's funny, it's like this is the craziest one. It 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: looks totally bizarre, you know. 114 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 2: It looks like a cross between one of those Liberty 115 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 2: Walk lambows and like one of the Angry Birds pigs, 116 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: you know, with those little led lights on the front. 117 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: There's some super u there's some super in there for sure. 118 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Out back wilderness. Yeah yeah, but in many ways it's 119 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 2: the sanest one because roads are terrible in this country. 120 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: It definitely improves the ride, and like you said, it's 121 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: kind of a more rugged supercar for this modern world. 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: And looks wise, you don't give up anything because it's 123 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: still an uricon underneath. Sound Wise, you don't give up anything, 124 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: so the experience is almost exactly the same. You just 125 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: don't have those really really high limits of grip from 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 1: the other tires. 127 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but when are you really use it? When you're 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 2: ever going to exercise that. There's so much built and 129 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: capability in these cars and it's just perceived performance. Like, 130 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: no Lambeau driver is ever going to chuck this thing 131 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: into a turn and feel the point ninety six geese. 132 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: They might feel it briefly before the tree arrived, before 133 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: the tree arived, right yeah, I mean so it's all 134 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: kind of largely theoretical. 135 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: And it's also the last V ten. It's the last 136 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: ten on the market. There's no other V tens. 137 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: This is the sendoff naturally aspirated five point two liters 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: V ten. What an awesome thing it is. I mean, man, 139 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 2: they're all going away. Everything is turbo charged. Now everything 140 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: is downsized or electrified, So you lose that linearity of 141 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: the powertrain, you lose that super high character VT all 142 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: that intake noise, I know, you lose so much of that, 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: and and the exhaust too, exactly. 144 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: It's special. It feels like the last of something. And 145 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the Serrato is kind of Lamborghini's exclamation point on the 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Uricon brand, like we sort of did this model. It 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: was spectacular, and now we're doing this really silly, crazy 148 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: thing that turns out works really well on road. 149 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: It's like the best one. Yeah, it's a I mean 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: a decade long run for the Uricon. That's amazing, because 151 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: supercars sort of age quickly, you know, they have a 152 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: quick sort of cell by date. But Lamborghini has done 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 2: a good job of keeping new versions, coming new variants. 154 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: And keeping it relevant, just tweaking the style a little, 155 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: because I mean, if you see a Lamborghini on the road, 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I still get a little weak in the knees like that. 157 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: That's completely like flat body basically. I mean, it's still 158 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: following the wedge plan from the late sixties early seventies 159 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: what a supercar looks like, and it still works. 160 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: The Miura, you know, it's still I think the most 161 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: beautiful supercar of all time, transverse twelve cylinder in the 162 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: middle of the car, and it's so low and just 163 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: extreme looking. And then obviously the Kuntash that filed after it. 164 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: You know, Kuntash meaning holy shit in Italian or thereabouts. 165 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: And that's what these cars are supposed to do. They're 166 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: supposed to like grab you by the scruff of the neck. 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you pay attention to Lamborghini's and you 168 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: certainly pay attention to this one. Yeah, it's a spectacular car. 169 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It gets a ton of attention on the road too. 170 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: And this one's orange. This one's orange and it has 171 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: stripes on it. Are those strictly necessary? The stripes? Oh yeah, 172 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: you gotta have the stripes. You gotta have this. It's 173 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: got a sixty three on the on the hood too, 174 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: which commemorates the founding year of Lamborghini. It's not a 175 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: race thing at all, it's just it's. 176 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: Just starting now. I mean, they do get your attention. 177 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: They've stayed with that sort of angular stealth fighter styling, 178 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: and I think they've evolved it in a cool way. 179 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: There's a tremendous amount of visual interest in this car. 180 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: I don'd love to go look at it. 181 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go take a look. 182 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: Cool okay, man, I mean look at this thing. 183 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: It's wild. What is this color? 184 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: This color is Aurancio Sampto. 185 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I think you might be able to get this on 186 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: a cross track. I don't know. It won't look it 187 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: won't look like this good. It's got to realize glow 188 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: to it. But I think this is a cross track call. 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: It's Xanthem orange. 190 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: That cost that's only fourteen thousand dollars Okay, the options 191 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: on this car are insane. I mean the starting price 192 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: without destination delivery, which is two seventy three one seven 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: seven on this one, I mean on the Stato this 194 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: one is three hundred and eighty four thousand, three hundred 195 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: and ninety four dollars, so over one hundred thousand options 196 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: and for that you get a whole lot of bullshit. 197 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: You get okay, you get the delivery. The stripes on 198 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: the front. 199 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those are painted in, which is pretty nice. 200 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it seventeen thousand dollars? 201 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean they probably had the 202 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: special painteds. 203 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, the visual impact of this car is undeniable. 204 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: You've got these big fender flares, you got the LED 205 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: lights in. 206 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Front, you have this roof rack when the tires look 207 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: real knobby, I mean the wheels are I think the 208 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: wheels are a size down on the regular Uricon. Just 209 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: to give you a little bit more sidewall. 210 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a forty series tire front and back, a 211 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: bridge stone. 212 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: Dueler yeah to tire I got. 213 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole impression is sort of like a 214 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 2: cop car for Mars. 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It does have that vibe too, it 216 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: doesn't it. 217 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 2: And look there's a snorkel at the front. 218 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the snorkels borrow from the sto And I 219 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: guess the story is, you know, the air intakes on 220 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: the regular oricon are too low, so it might take 221 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: in too much dirt or gravel or water. The downside 222 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: is you can't see out the back of this thing, 223 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: like directly behind you. You can't see out the rear 224 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: view mirror. Is there a camera or no, there's no car, 225 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: so you're just on your side view mirrors only. Oh great, 226 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Well it's that old Italian race car driver saying, you 227 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: know what's behind me doesn't matter. That's right. 228 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: No one's gonna catch up with this thing. But I mean, 229 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: I really have. I'm having a problem with the the 230 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 2: stripes for seventeen grand. I don't think they add much 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: to it visually. In fact, I think they make it 232 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: look a little more kick Carl like. 233 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: And the sixty three. What does that cost Eddie? The 234 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: sixty three? 235 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: I believe that is seven No, that's yeah, that's seventy 236 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: seventy four hundreds for that little piece of paint. Additional 237 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,119 Speaker 2: lights on front twenty six hundred smartphone interface. 238 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't get that standard No. Thirty two 239 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: in basically every car for sale. 240 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 2: Right, a Nissan Versa. 241 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: Those floor mats in aluminum, fourteen hundred dollars. Okay, that's 242 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: totally worth it. 243 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: Dark chrome and carbon what is that just dark chrome 244 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,359 Speaker 2: and carbon dashboard? 245 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, it must be yeah. 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: Oh, the fire extinguis sure. Guess how much that is? 247 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: Two hundred, three hundred dollars. 248 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: Nine hundred dollars. You know, I did the Lamborghini factor 249 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: in there, right, So they take one from the Italian 250 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: home depot. 251 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: And the Lamborghini sticker on it presumably. 252 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then charge ten times you'd pay there. So 253 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,359 Speaker 2: that's your three hundred and eighty five thousand dollars Lamborghini 254 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: right there. 255 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean it looks lifted. I mean you can tell 256 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: the one point seven inches of ride height that this 257 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: has over the standard car. You can really tell that 258 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: that's there. Yeah, definitely, But it doesn't detract from the style. 259 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: It still looks still looks really cool, and it's still 260 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: ridiculous as low. 261 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: And you know what's kind of cool about these fender 262 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: additional pieces is they sort of minimize the rear height 263 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 2: of the car visually, it just kind of shrinks it 264 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: all down. And in mid engine cars, that sort of 265 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: section or area between the tail edge of the door 266 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: and the rear wheel can look really big. 267 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: Piece and they're going to minimize that there. I think 268 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: that's what the Aztec designers, So that's what they claimed 269 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: about the cladding. 270 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: That was for the mid engine as Yes. 271 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Right of course it almost made it as a production 272 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: and just Pontiac went out of. 273 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 2: Business and from the back hotly smokes. I mean, look 274 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: at this with the exhaust shooting out the back, minimizing 275 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: the length of the runners. 276 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: If you pop the engine compartment lid, Lamborghini still puts 277 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: on a show for the engine. Yeah, and it still 278 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: looks spectacular. It's not blocked by anything. There's no big 279 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: plastic shroud covering it. You just have the intake runners there, 280 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: it says Lamborghini. 281 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: Right, and it's fed through the top through that snorkel. 282 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. The ride height just makes it so that you 283 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: can drive this car, you know, up a driveway, perfect, 284 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: you can drive it in snow. This is the four 285 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: season Lamborghini. 286 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Car, right, take it anywhere and the vacation. 287 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean the tires, the all season tread powdern it 288 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: doesn't good, it looks, and they're going to last a 289 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: lot longer than any other Lamborghini to that's true. 290 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: The only thing is, I mean, how much room is 291 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: there in the front for not a lot. That's a backpack. Yeah, 292 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: that's like a notebook. Yeah that's small. 293 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is such a cool concept. I hope 294 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: Lamborghini puts it on the rest of their cars. 295 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 2: My little the Eurus is begging, URIs is begging for 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: it right there. 297 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: Off roader needs to be a Strato style off roader, 298 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: and that additional width really Yeah, they increase the front 299 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: track and the your track. Yeah, fender flares are always 300 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: a win. 301 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: I agree, But I'm a chatt of the eighties exactly. Okay, well, 302 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: let's get. 303 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: In and drive it. Yeah, let's do it. 304 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 2: Oh god, let's squeeze it myself. 305 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: Endo, this. 306 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: Can't fire it up? Yeah? Okay, all right, Tony, can 307 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: you believe that we're getting paid right now? We're on 308 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: the breging clock and now we're. 309 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: At the ten best routes where we do many of 310 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: our vehicle handling value. 311 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: Ready to properly exercise it. Take this thing through the 312 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: Chubba chetta checkane, that's. 313 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Right, okay, the world famous, Right, let's do it. Oh yeah, 314 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: that sounds so sounds pretty good. 315 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 3: Holy shit, Oh my god, dude, oh my god. 316 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. You don't lose much acceleration versus the regular oricon 317 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, the engine response is there, is there and 318 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: around You're like, how is this a supercar? 319 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: And then you get in You're like, oh, okay, that's 320 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: a supercar. You just have to make sure that we 321 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: don't get arrested. 322 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: So the handling limits are still high enough for. 323 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: Public road driving. You can still go incredibly fast, but 324 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: you're still well within the limits of the car. 325 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: It just does not beat you up. And this sort 326 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: of poses an existential question. Is it really a Lamborghini 327 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: if it doesn't make you suffer, if. 328 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: There's no abuse to it? Yeah, I mean because the 329 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: kutash amazing car, beautiful car, important car historically, but it's 330 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: probably not something you always want to drive. You're probably 331 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: pretty relieved when you step out of it. And is 332 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: that bit of pain? I mean, I guess that ours 333 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: is a pain free Lamborghini. But then people have questioned 334 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: it's Lamborghini as too. 335 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 2: It's moving around. Chassis is communicating beautifully with you. The 336 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: steering is actually you know, look it's not hydraulic assists. 337 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: But it feels good. I mean, but it feels really good. Yeah, 338 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it feels as good as any car on 339 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: the market today. There's nothing like that engine sound, naturally 340 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: aspirated V ten engine sound. It's just it's otherworldly. Let's 341 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: hear it a little bit and it reps to eighty 342 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: five hundred rpm, all five point two liters of it. 343 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Switch it to sport mode and that opens up the 344 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: exhaust valve, so it's even louder. Oh nice, Okay, So. 345 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: We have three modes strata which means straight right, sport, 346 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: which is sport. 347 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: And then that dials in addition to making the car 348 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: a little louder, it dials back the stability control and 349 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: then puts a more aggressive shifting strategy for the automatic, 350 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: for the dual fletch automatic. And then you've got rally yes, 351 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: which is for the dirt. Oh it's okay, we'll save that. 352 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: That has its own special stability control programming which accounts for, 353 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: you know, the slipperiness of a gravel road, so you 354 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: can do some rally stuff. But still have a safety 355 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: net to catch you before you go flying off. 356 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: I mean the interior is really great in this thing. 357 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: I spacious too, Yeah, like there's tons of foot room. Yeah, 358 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: this is totally comfortable. It looks great. 359 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: You've got alcantara over everything. 360 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, beautiful, worst. 361 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: Stitching, it's really cool. 362 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a hundred. Let's not. 363 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 2: Anger the locals here. 364 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: Under kilometers already clear, Yeah, of course, totally legal. 365 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: And you know you're sort of tempted to go faster 366 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 2: in this thing because of all the ride compliance. You're 367 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: not really worried about how much it's gonna wreck the car. 368 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, very true, and I'm sure that's true on dirt roads. Well, 369 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: let's find one. This is our street. Yeah, okay, I 370 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: can't wait to drive. Okay, let's do a swap here. 371 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: All right. 372 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna set it up for your tone, put it 373 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: in rally mode. 374 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: Excellent, and uh not even gonna turn it off. All right. Well, 375 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: thanks for giving up the wheel, Eddie. 376 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: Well it was tough to do, but for you anything, 377 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: it didn't take that much convincing. 378 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: So here you are on a little dirt road off 379 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: of the ten bus loop. Okay, now, Tonyang. The ride, 380 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: it's crazy, It's like it's shocking. And also I feel well, 381 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: I feel a little bit of guilt, but I feel 382 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: a lot less guilt than if I was driving an 383 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Uricon down this road. 384 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: Well, you definitely need the uh, the plastic protective film. 385 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: There's a good corner up here. It will be sluet sideways. 386 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: In the grand tradition of rally car driving. 387 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: I we'll see what we can do up here. Oh yeah, yeah, 388 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of, lets you catch it. That's awesome. 389 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: Did these that pothole right in the middle of the 390 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: cars just it just doesn't care, doesn't care. 391 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: Wow, this is so amazing. Yeah, they all oil drive 392 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: just makes like no problem, and the altering tires just 393 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: work beautifully on this. 394 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: And it just so expands the performance envelope of the 395 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 2: con you know. 396 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder how many of the they're making 397 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred and ninety nine of these fourteen how many 398 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: owners will actually drive them on a dirt road with 399 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of anger. I wonder they're missing out 400 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: if they don't. I know, that's the whole point. Great 401 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: side slide. 402 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: I mean you were looking through the side windows there 403 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: to go straight, but it's so for I mean. 404 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: It's just it slides so easily and happily. Oh gently. 405 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Fortunately there aren't as many corners as we'd like to. Oh, 406 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: look at the plume of dust coming out. Amazing. Be 407 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: interesting to see what Lamborghini does to as a follow 408 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: up to the Hurrican. It's supposed to be coming later 409 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean it'll have some sort of 410 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: electrification to it, right as in a hybrid, sort of 411 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: performance hybrid way. But it remains to be seen if 412 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: it'll look as good, if it'll drive this well. 413 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: This is a real high point for the brand. I 414 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: think this car lasted so long because it was so good. 415 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's time is run out. 416 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a nice sendoff. They save the best 417 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: for last. Yeah, I agree. 418 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 2: Hey did he know that you can sink your Apple 419 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: Watch to this car? 420 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: No, I don't have an Apple Watch. 421 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 2: And it'll give you a heart rate information, so if 422 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: you have a cardiac in farnction, it'll tell you. 423 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: Well, it'll be due to the car. No entirely possible. 424 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: Oh man, this thing just loves to drift so good, 425 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 4: so good. 426 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: It wants to go sideways. The steering is really nice. 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not exactly a light car. No, 428 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: it's like. 429 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: Thirty six twenty nine. I think this one is, but 430 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 2: sure feels light on its feet. 431 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: And I let to point out that we wait that 432 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: because Lamborghini will put out these ridiculous dry numbers where 433 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: like it's like with the car ways on the Moon 434 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: on the second Tuesday of every month with no fluids 435 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: in it, and we actually weigh the cars. We fill 436 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: them up with gas and we weigh them so we 437 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: know exactly what they weigh, so we could see through 438 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: their bs. We're back on the asphalt. Now, excellent, I'll 439 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: take a couple of corners and see what this is like. Cool. 440 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Let's just hear that. 441 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: Engine when we're time. Damn so good. 442 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: The revs just built so quickly. The engine is just 443 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: completely unfazed by this car, Like zero effect on this thing. 444 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: It's almost like an electric car. But sounds like that. 445 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the last of the V tens. 446 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: Long may it run? All right, let's pull over before 447 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: we get into any trouble. 448 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: Okay, sounds good. Yeah, we got away with our dignity 449 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: and our lives. 450 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: That was fun. This is really fun. Great great Cardinally 451 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: four hundred. Would you buy one? I would buy one. 452 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, that was amazing. 453 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that chopper that we saw was 454 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: not related to what we did. I hope not. 455 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: After the break, we'll be speaking with Lamborghini's chief technical officer, 456 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 2: Reuven Moore. He's the guy who signs off on these cars, 457 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: and he has a lot of cool things to say 458 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: about this one. Stay tuned, Welcome back to Car and 459 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: Drivers into Cars. Now we're sitting down with Lamborghini's chief 460 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: technical officer, Reuven Moore. Hi, Ruvin, thanks so much for 461 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: joining us. We want to talk a little bit about 462 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: the Urkan Strado as a sendoff for this incredible run 463 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: of V ten powered sports cars. Why did you decide 464 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: to go with sort of an off road rally inspired 465 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: version as the last version of Urakan instead of an 466 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: ultimate high performance car. 467 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: First of all, let me answer in a more let 468 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 6: me say, general way. Lamborghini was in the past always 469 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 6: surprising the people, and therefore it fits perfectly general approach. 470 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 6: But I can also give you a little bit insights 471 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 6: about the basic idea of the Huracan Sterrato because it 472 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 6: was born really let me say, some years ago the idea. 473 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 6: We recognized that the Urus is the most fun to 474 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 6: drive on crevel road, how incredible it could be to 475 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 6: have cars in these conditions. We were very in love 476 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 6: with the old rally era, so also about cars like 477 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: the Lanchestrados. We were so excited about the outcome that 478 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 6: we said, okay, but we have to bring this also 479 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 6: to the market. So this was like the idea was born. 480 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 6: Now coming finally back to your original question, from my 481 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 6: point of view, it's also fitting perfectly as the last 482 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 6: version of our fantastic history of let me say of 483 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 6: the whole because it's the sense of driving fun, not 484 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 6: only on the racetrack and from the pure performance point 485 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 6: of view, but driving fun also in the sense of 486 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 6: playful character, achievable performance. Still a very fast car, but 487 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 6: a very playful car. For my vision, Lumbo is not 488 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 6: only about the pure performance. Lumbo is always about driver excitement, 489 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 6: driver involvement and the best in glass driving experience. 490 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: Do you foresee a rally or a Strato version becoming 491 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: a normal thing in either the Urakan successor lineup or 492 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: in the Rivolto's lineup? I mean, this is this something that 493 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: Lamborghini wants to continue pursuing in the future. 494 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 6: I'm not saying that it's for sure never coming this. 495 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 6: I would also not exclude I can exclude that it's 496 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 6: a part of the standard line up, like performance oriented version, 497 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 6: because as I said, it's always a little bit about 498 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 6: surprising the people doing something different that the others are 499 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 6: not doing. More from the technical point of view, it 500 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 6: has to fit also to the character of the basic car. 501 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 6: If you have driven it, it's really like a clove 502 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: that is fitting to you and enables also to have 503 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 6: really driving fun, not only the racetrack but also in 504 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: the mountain road or something. And this is not possible 505 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 6: with every car concept. 506 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: Were there any internal fights to get this car made, 507 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: that's to say, were there any people within the company 508 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: that could not understand why you would want to make 509 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: an Urcan into an Urcan s Dorado. No, so unanimous. 510 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: It was a unanimous everybody got it right after bat 511 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: for sure. 512 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 6: If you do it via PowerPoint, sometimes it's hard to 513 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 6: transport this kind of message, but we speak about emotions, 514 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 6: and emotions you cannot describe on the PowerPoint. But if 515 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 6: you bring all the relevant people, marketing colleagues, stakeholder does 516 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 6: all the decision. Make us to the car, you can 517 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 6: feel it, and therefore everyone was convinced. 518 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: After this experience, I know another member of the group 519 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: does a similar car, the portion nine to eleven DA car, 520 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: and I was wondering if there was any sort of 521 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: cross pollination there between the teams. Did you call on Porsche? 522 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 2: It all for any expertise. 523 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 6: To be honest, it was really one a percent only 524 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 6: by chance to pick. The cars were developed more or 525 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: less at the same time and also presented to the market. 526 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 6: I think with the time difference one month or something 527 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 6: like this, but this was not blend during the development. 528 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 6: There was also not a real exchange. For sure, we're 529 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 6: always in contact with the colleagues within the volks One group, 530 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 6: exchanging expertise and competence, but regarding the specific application, the 531 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 6: specific setup of the car, there was not an exchange 532 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 6: because our Straato project was a kind of undercover project. 533 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 6: It was not starting with the idea that was coming 534 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 6: as a request from the market, because this was a 535 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 6: kind of anticipation of something that could be cool. But 536 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 6: if you drive both cars, you will confirm that the 537 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: character of the cars is still different enough. 538 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Ruven, is there a particular part of the Stato, which 539 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: you're particularly proud, Like every time you see it, touch it, 540 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: use it, you're like, wow, yes, I'm so glad that 541 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: that got in. 542 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 6: What I really like is that we were able to 543 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 6: industrialize our basic idea because there were some challenges regarding 544 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 6: the tire. Development did really a super good job to 545 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: bring a tire on the market that was before simply 546 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 6: not available. The car is still fast on a standard track, 547 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 6: is still let me say, very easy to control. You 548 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 6: have also grip services. That we were able really to 549 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,719 Speaker 6: transfer the basic idea to the serious production car. This 550 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 6: is something I'm super proud because the car is not 551 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 6: the show off case like some people might think that 552 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 6: I ever driven the car, because the car is much 553 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 6: more about additional over fenders or a little bit off style, 554 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 6: the off road style and all the things they were 555 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 6: coming later. The first thing was really the driveability, the 556 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 6: different setup philosophy, the different talk distribution, and all the 557 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 6: dynamics that I'm making this car so exciting. 558 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and our testing. I think it's the only 559 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: all terrain tire that's even gotten close to a G 560 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: and they go one hundred and sixty miles an hour. 561 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: So what are you driving every day? Reuven? What is 562 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: your daily driver? Lamborghini. 563 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 6: One nice part of my job is that I have 564 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: a lot of opportunities to drive our of a tastic product. 565 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 6: So I'm trying to drive not every day. It's also wrong, 566 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: but I'm driving a lot of different cars, you know, 567 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: because for me it's part of my job also to 568 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 6: have an understanding about all our product range. So starting 569 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 6: from the Urus, but also Steato. The last car I 570 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 6: was driving to the airport was a Strato by the way, 571 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 6: but also some competitor cars because it's that I have 572 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 6: also the personal feeding, the personal touching point about the 573 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 6: driveability of our competitors. This is part of being professional 574 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: and also understanding what is going around. 575 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: How big of a bag could you fit into the Strata? 576 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 6: It was at least sufficient for my cabin trolley that 577 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: I needed for this trip to US. And also this 578 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: was in this case. 579 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: Enough Okay, international travel, it's possible. In the Stererrado. 580 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned all the Lamborghini automobiles you've driven, So 581 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I've got to ask Mura or Kuntash or you're a 582 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Mura person or you a Kuntash person. 583 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 6: Even if some people now will hate me, but definitively 584 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 6: the Coon. 585 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: Touch excellent, that's the answer I would give. 586 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 6: But to be honest, I mean, since I was born 587 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 6: seventy nine, so my favorite automotive that influenced me when 588 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 6: I was young is for sure the late eighties early nineties, 589 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 6: I have to say. So therefore the coon Touch, but 590 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 6: also the Arblow was something that was the poster in 591 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 6: my room in my parents' house. So the kon Dutch 592 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 6: for instance, probably you know the Hollywood movie Cannonball Run. 593 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 2: Of course, definitely some. 594 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 6: Weeks ago I had the opportunity to drive exactly the 595 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 6: car of the movie, and this was something that I 596 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 6: had really goosebumps because I remember this was the first 597 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 6: time I can remember that I was in touch as 598 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 6: a child with Lamborghini because it was so cool movie 599 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 6: and even today I like a lort. Let me say 600 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 6: the opening scene with a black coon doudg. Therefore, I 601 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: can tell you this is something that I really loved. 602 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: And I'd also be remiss if I didn't mention that 603 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: Cannonball Run before it was a movie, started as a 604 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: story in Current Driver. It started as a race across 605 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: the country. Yeah, Dan Gurney and Brociates in the three 606 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: sixty five Daytona Ferrari. 607 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 6: I mean, this is incredible the story, to be honest, 608 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 6: it's part of autovotive culture. This is exactly what I'm 609 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 6: so fascinating by cars, because cars are generating this kind 610 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 6: of let me say, common experience. Even if this is 611 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 6: something that makes for my point of view, the automotive 612 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 6: culture so exceptional because there are only few pieces of you, 613 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 6: let me say, things that are generating this kind of 614 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 6: let me say memories. You know you will not probably 615 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 6: will not let me say, recognize a fridge or something 616 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 6: of the of the eighties. But the cars, I mean, 617 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 6: this is always something that you want to have and 618 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 6: that stays in your memories. 619 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, what was your first car? You've had 620 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: some Lamborghini posters on the wall, but what was your 621 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: first car when you got your driver's license. 622 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 6: My first car was for sure, far far away from 623 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 6: a lump from being a Lamborghini. My very first car 624 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 6: was a Ford Escort station wagon super less power or 625 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 6: low power car. But I had the opportunity at this 626 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 6: time to drive the car of my mom a lot 627 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: and she had a Pulsue two or five GTI one 628 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 6: point nine, and. 629 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: This was for sure sweet at this time. 630 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know I was. 631 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 6: Born close to the front of France, or in my 632 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 6: neighborhood there were a lot of French cars or Renuclio 633 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 6: Pugo two or five. Therefore, I was happy that at 634 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: least during the weekend I was allowed to drive it. 635 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Love it. That's great. 636 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great car to borrow. 637 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true, and even today it's a lot of 638 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 6: driving fund even if for sure from today purposes it's 639 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 6: not as fast, but the Ki is very light, the 640 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 6: car is let me say, very adri the Cai is 641 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 6: very direct, and it's very houristic compared to today's mainstream cars. 642 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 6: Let me formulate it in this week. 643 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's analogy. You're right. This was great, Thank you, Reuvin. 644 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 6: You're welcome. 645 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 2: That interview was brought to you by Ebaymotors. All the 646 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: parts you need at the prices you want. Visit ebaymotors 647 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: dot com for more. 648 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: That's the most fun I've ever had in a Lamborghini, 649 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: and I've driven every Lamborghini made in the past twenty years. 650 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: I've driven Murcielago's Gayardo's Uricans eventa doors and the URIs 651 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: this is the wildest Lamborghini and that makes it the 652 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: most Lamborghini of the Lamborghinis. 653 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: Yes, well, said Tone. I mean it's as crazy as 654 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: anything these guys have ever produced, Kuntash included, but it's 655 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: way more drivable than anything. This nutty has a right 656 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 2: to be Hell, I'd buy one. Be sure to tune 657 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: in next week when we'll be taking a look at 658 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: the accurate integrat type s and talking with Accura product 659 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: planner Jonathan Rivers. 660 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 3: Early on in development had a very ulterior motive to 661 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: push our development engineers and they started benchmarking the M 662 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: two and all these cars that have these berbos and crackles, 663 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: and they're like, this is what people like, and I'm like, yes, 664 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 3: give us, give us lots of that. 665 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us for this first episode of 666 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: Car and Drivers Into Cars. If you enjoyed the show, 667 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: join us every week for new episodes, and don't forget 668 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 2: to rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts. 669 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: For more on the Lamborghini Uricon Sterrato, visit Car and 670 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: Driver dot com and be sure to pick up the 671 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: latest issue of Car and Driver magazine. Car and Drivers 672 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: Into Cars is a production of Car and Driver in 673 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio. Our show is hosted by Eddie Alterman 674 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: and myself, Tony Kiroga. Our executive producer is Matt Romano. 675 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: Our EP of Post Production is Matt Stillo. Our Supervising 676 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: producer is Sierra Kaiser. This show was edited by Sierra 677 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: Spreen special thanks to our location sound recordist Matthew Cisco. 678 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time.