WEBVTT - Draft Show: Putting a Star on His Tag? 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.479 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.240 room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:16.919 the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frescope, 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:24.000 Dallas Cowboys Liked lamb and now your hosts Brian brought us, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:30.800 David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeomans. It's underneath forty 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:35.280 days thirty seven days till the NFL Draft as we 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.920 continue to couch you down and get you ready for it, 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:42.760 investigating and educating here on the Draft Show, presented by 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.760 Miller Lane. Glad you're with us, you're on this Tuesday 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.199 edition as we've got Brian brought us, Bucky Brooks, the 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.280 Great David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeomans, and gentlemen, for the 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.080 first time, we might have a medical alert. If we 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.120 had a medical alert drop that just sent sirens going 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.560 off and things going crazy and the sound just to 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:06.360 kind of get everybody's attention, now would be the time 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.320 to hit it. I don't think we have one of those, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.480 but major medical news, and we're going to hit it 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.720 right off the top to start things off on the 0:01:13.800 --> 0:01:15.440 Draft Show, because I don't think there's any other way 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.800 we could hit it. But Caleb Farley, huge draft prospect 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.240 out of the cornerback position and a potential Cowboys target, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.679 having back surgery prior to the season and should miss 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.080 a little bit of time, especially missing his pro day. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.679 So that's the news that has come down. Of course, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.080 Adam Schefter was the one that first reported it on 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.080 Monday afternoon. We've had a little bit of time now 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.080 to react to it. But Brian, whenever you first heard 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:44.959 the news, what was your initial reaction whenever it comes 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.800 to Farley and opt out, who now has some potential 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:53.040 back issues. Yeah, this is something that you know, the 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:57.280 teams knew about that. He missed some games before, you know, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.200 in two and nineteen, the last couple of games he 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.400 had had a similar procedure. He's got some pressure in 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.760 that lower back that he has to release, and yeah, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:08.560 this is not a good thing. This is not a 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.600 good sign. And when you start to ask the trainers 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.520 and doctors around the league yesterday afternoon, like I did, 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.400 they were saying, listen, when the longevity questions come into 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.360 play here now you know, and where are you with that? 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:24.840 Are you willing to say, Okay, he's just that much 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.680 of a talented player that we're going to put that aside. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.200 We're going to play him and just manage the back 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:33.400 as we go. Talking to doctors and trainers again, they've 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.480 said that this is something that could be taken care 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:38.760 of with rehab. But they've also said, hey, there's been 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.360 some good cases, there are also been some bad cases 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.760 of this. So yeah, it's really unfortunate because again, this 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.239 is a player that a lot of people had, including 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.280 myself as a target for the Dallas Cowboys. He was 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.200 cornerback number one for me. And now this gives you 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.920 a little bit of a pause as you as you 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.480 go forward here in this process. Yea makes it really 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.480 really difficult when you're looking at him to say, because 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.640 you already alluded to the fact that he missed games 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.800 in twenty nineteen, he says all of twenty twenty, we 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.519 won't get a chance to see him with his pro 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.560 day in those things, and we don't know how long 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.000 this is going to impact him in terms of getting 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.120 back on the field. I think what you have to 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:20.640 end up doing is you have to put a star 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.280 on his tag. You have to get the medical you 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.760 have to get your doctors the way in. But I 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.840 certainly believe that he is demed when it comes to 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.680 the process, I don't believe you can seriously entertain taking 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.880 him at ten And I think it comes of the 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.360 doctors when you can mitigate the risk reward value with 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.320 him as a prospect, just to I guess to wrap 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:45.240 that up, this is probably the most important and the 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.960 spot where we in the media are at the biggest 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:53.240 disadvantage is with the medicals because we're hearing about this 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:56.960 because Caleb Farley needs to have a procedure done right now. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.680 But I guarantee you all these teams, you know, they 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.360 knew about his past, and it's something they've looked into. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:06.160 It's something that comes up on the screens at the 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.920 NFL Combine every year. That's why this usually you know, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.680 these types of things happen at the combine. You know, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.720 in a normal year where you don't have COVID. This 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.320 is something where your own doctors would take a look 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.719 if he came to your facility, and we just buy 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:22.919 and large, we're not going to have access to ninety 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.480 nine percent of that. I remember having a conversation with somebody, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.680 you know, one of the previous draft cycles. I don't 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.680 want to name the player, but the guy had a 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.400 medical condition that never made it to the media that 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.240 teams knew about, and it dinged his draft stock understandably. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.040 So if you're worried about his longevity or his ability 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:44.599 to be available, and it's just the type of stuff 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.400 that we don't have access to. So in the case 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.240 of Caleb Farley, we do because he needs to have 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.760 a procedure right now. But you know, this is the 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:54.479 type of thing that you've got to worry about and 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.159 you've got to have your hands around when you're talking 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.720 about spending big draft picks, and you know it sucks. 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.200 But I agree with what Bucky just said that, you know, 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.560 I hope Caleb Farley has a super long career and 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.360 I don't know how far he falls because everything I've 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.680 heard is that he'll be available for training camp. But 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.280 it seems like a good guest that he's going to 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.520 fall at least a little bit because of this. Yeah, 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:18.120 Kyle and guys, the thing that you and talking to 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.360 some scouts and I know Buckie does the same thing. 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.039 He works the phones, Dave's got his guys he talks to. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.440 It's a mess right now for these scouts. The medical information. 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.600 I talked to a team the other day that says, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.680 this is an absolute mess. And you know, and you 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.480 know they're hitting these pro days and trying to gather information. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.560 How do you get medical information with hippo laws and 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.240 all that stuff going on. I mean, this is difficult 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.040 on this team and you're making an investment in these players. 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.800 And it reminds me so much of the ninety eight 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.599 draft that we had in Philadelphia with Jeremiah Trotter. You know, 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:56.400 our doctor Philly had Listen, he said, Brian, I can't 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.480 tell you this guy could play ten games or ten years, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.800 you know. And I give Jeff Lurie, the owner, a 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.839 lot of credit. He's like, listen, guys, if we like 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.760 this guy enough, let's take him now. It was a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.599 third round grade. It was a third round get. But 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.600 still those the types of decisions that these teams are 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.520 going to have to make on these medical as they 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:19.520 get more information. Whenever it came out yesterday about the 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:24.800 Kayla Farley news, Drew Rosenhouse's agent said he noted a 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.760 late July return for kay La Farley. Cowboys have had 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.520 their own experience with it. This is a tweet from 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.640 Calvin Watkins. By the way, cowboys have had their own 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.960 experience with this type of surgery that Farley is undergoing. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:41.360 Tony Romo had the exact same surgery. So I mean, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.400 if that strikes fear into you, I think it does 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.320 to me a little bit whenever it comes to taking 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.880 him at ten. But Brian, you talked about how he 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.840 was your corner one. You're not alone in that fact. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:53.720 A lot of people had kayle La Farley as their 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.520 corner one. Is he still there or are you pushing 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.400 him down the board a little bit if you were 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.719 in that draft room. Yeah, you know, Bucky's gonna hate 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.600 me for this, and Dave's gonna hate me for this. 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.080 I'll fight for the kid. I'll fight the kid, and 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.800 you know what, and I'll you know, if it's something 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.400 that my medical staff feels comfortable with, I'm not going 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.440 to be an idiot scout and walk in there and 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:19.280 say we've got to take this guy. We've got to 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.880 take this guy. But if it's something that we have 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.960 a history with and we're comfortable with, I think that 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:30.640 the consideration is still there. Now if you tell me that, Hey, listen, 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.320 there's there's some there's some cases where this hasn't gone 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.560 well and we do worry about the longevity of the player. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.480 You know, I think there is concern. I'm not going 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.400 to be that stupid, but you know, I can understand where. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.640 I can understand where guys like Bucky, who has certain 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:51.239 up there at number one, this is his opportunity to say, listen, 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.000 let's take the healthy guy. Let's take the guy that's 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.600 been playing. You know, let's take the clean guy. You know, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.840 when you're picking tenth overall, though, you don't want that mistake. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.720 You don't want anything hanging over your head. So this 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.320 is clear ammunition for those guys that want another player 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.600 or another position there. And you know what, I could 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.960 fight him to a point, but I can't fight him 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:16.600 all the way, like if he was completely healthy. So 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.720 cal for your question when you're talking about rankings and grades, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.000 Yeah I wouldn't. It wouldn't impact my grade at all, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.240 Like you still grade the player for who the player is. 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.800 And then I think you have to let the medical 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:30.360 team undress him in terms of way we can use 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.080 alize him, in what kind of tags and stickers we 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.319 put on the card and those things. So I think 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.000 you still have to talk about him as if he's 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.600 a healthy prospect, and then you'll let those that may 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.880 be above I pay grade handle that. When it comes 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:46.800 to the medical I think what typically happens in these situations, 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.360 you typically dock maybe around or two depending on how 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.040 severe it is. So if we're thinking about him at ten, 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.640 I think earliest consideration would be in the second round 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.080 if a severe and it may even drop down to 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.840 the third round. And so then it comes down to 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.200 how comfortable are you taking on a player who has 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:10.640 this issue? Because Dallas has had familiarity with it, Tony Romo, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.080 I want to say another player had a similar surgery 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.160 on the Cowboys in the past, but with Tony Romo 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.920 and understanding and understanding what comes along with it, and 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.839 do they have a plan to get a player up 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.520 and running and being able to play in how to 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.200 manage it as he's going through his career. If they 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:27.719 have a plan and they feel confident about it, I 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.200 think you can take him and you get him at 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.360 the right value. So what you're telling me is that 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:35.440 if he's there at forty four and the Cowboys are 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.560 gonna make him their their big gamble pick, because we 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.520 know they love doing that. Yep, Yeah, no, that's yeah, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.440 they've they've taken The history shows you that with Cherry Jones, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.240 I believe Bucky might be referring to Tank Lawrence. You know, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.880 Tank has had some back issues and stuff like that 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.600 that he's had to deal with as well. So yeah, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.640 it's we understand this team will take a risk on 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:00.520 a medical player. Look, look with Jalen Smith, I don't 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.719 know if they take Jalen Smith unless doctor Cooper does 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:06.640 the surgery. If doctor Cooper doesn't do the surgery, I 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.560 don't know. But if you listen to Will McClay talk 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.560 about that, like Bucky was telling you, they had his 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.920 tag right there where it was like a blinking light 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.719 for them that that gave them in their mind, it 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.120 was like we got to the second round, let's go 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.760 that's our guy, let's go with it. And you know, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.240 they didn't share the same feeling, and a lot of others, 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:26.720 I mean a lot of other teams didn't have that 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.000 same feeling about this guy. So this team is they 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:35.280 will see value in medical risks, whether it's wrong, whether 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.559 it's right or wrong, that's what they do. They did 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.439 it with Sean Lee as well. So yeah, I mean, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:41.920 it's it's not just a one off. So no, they've 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.240 done it time and time again. But Bucky, when you're 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.400 talking about grading the players specifically to a healthy prospect, 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.480 and then you have those stickers on there, the worrisome 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.360 thing for me is that I think you put two 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:56.840 stickers on Farley, you put past history of injuries in, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.960 I mean maybe three stickers, then the surgery, and then 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.760 the opt out. Because there's those three things right there 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.520 that already worried me enough to where you look across 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.480 to your board with a very similarly graded player at 0:11:08.520 --> 0:11:11.360 least on my board and Patrick's or ten, that's the 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:13.840 difference maker. That's the difference for me. And and I 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.559 see that you're saying that already by pushing him down 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.800 to forty four. I think at forty four you be 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.040 a great pick depending on who you pick in the 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.480 first round. But is that enough for teams to knock 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:27.520 him that far because I still think somebody would be 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:30.079 willing to maybe take a chance on him earlier than 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.160 just forty four. I don't know. I mean, you're talking 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.240 about a lot of money and you just listed off 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.760 a laundry list of issues that you're worried about opt 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.360 out to twenty nineteen in the season prematurely ending, and 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.839 now we have the back surgery. Like that's a lot. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.800 I think what you're trying to do to reason outside 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.319 of the first round is just because the money changes, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.400 like it changes significantly in terms of the guarantees and 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:57.200 those things. And so if you quote unquote throw away 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.400 a second round pick, you can live with that. But 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.439 what you don't want to do is and Brian to 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.320 tell you whatever, like you don't want to give away 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.840 first round picks. In the first round, you can't have 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.080 major swings and misses. And if he's unable to play 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.760 and unable to give you any of what you thought, 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.760 then that's a major miss. In the first round, it's 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.160 about man just hit singles and doubles. If you can 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.880 just get him on base and make sure that he's 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.560 a solid starter, and if he can give you more, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.600 that's great. In the second round, you can swing for 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.920 the fences because hey, no one's going to pick you 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.199 apart because your second round or doesn't materialize and become 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:30.760 an All star or those things. And so that's why 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.120 you've seen it where Jayalen Smiths was in the second round. 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.319 I think charl Lee was in the third round. Maybe 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:40.000 with Charlie it was fifty five overall. I think yeah, yeah, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.560 so that second so we're already talking about where he goes. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.800 So you talk about the blinking light if he gets 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.559 into a situation in the second round, if he's still 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.959 on the board, then you begin to talk, Okay, is 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.400 it worth going up to get him even though he 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.040 has these other factors because we're talking about a guy 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.760 who has a top fifteen grade, someone who were saying 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.200 can be a number one corner in this league, and 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.800 so it's about risk reward, and so you're just trying 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.400 to mitigate it. Yeah, what's going to happen, guys, and 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.400 Bucky knows this too, is that when you're sitting in 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.439 that room and that tag is up there and it's 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:16.679 your time to pick, you have to compare him to Okay, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.920 he's going to be on your board in the first round, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.920 what second round grades do you have? Now? What players? 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.840 What tax do you have left? And that's where the 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:27.760 risk is. You're gonna say, Okay, we've got a first 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.360 round grade on this guy. We know the issues When 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.800 the minute he gets drafted by somebody, The first thing 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:37.120 they're going to say on the NFL network is, here's 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.760 a first round player that got picked here because of 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.280 a back, a question about his back. That's that's what's 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:46.160 going to happen, and that that's immediately that's going to 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:49.360 be the thing that's going to follow this player the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.360 rest of his career. You know, whether his back holds 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.680 up and it's a ten twelve year career, or that 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.320 he's a guy that every year he has to get 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.920 something done to his back order to play. Those are 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.160 the questions you have to ask yourself when you're going 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.000 forward and making this pick. Now, right, let me take 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.520 you unnecessarily far down the rabbit hole, because obviously, like 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:18.000 this is ridiculous, but I'm just curious, do you think 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.400 the Cowboys could try to, like you, like strategize that 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:26.400 basically is like, hope that Caleb Farley does fall to 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.040 you and you can make him that pick, and then 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.119 now you could use number ten to not address cornerback 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.200 and hope that that works out for you. Plus, I mean, 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.480 there are obviously other cornerbacks I could fall to you 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:39.520 at forty four. Anyway, this is one of the questions 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.360 I was have as well. Because whenever you looked at 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.120 the trio where it was certain it was Farley or 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.560 it was Patrick Slater or excuse me, Rashaan Slater at 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.520 pick number ten. Now that it's just a choice between 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:55.840 the two if he falls, I mean, is that something 0:14:55.880 --> 0:15:00.240 that the Cowboys could be interested in? Brian, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.160 I think they're. You know, that's a great question, because 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.240 but let me tell you where I think to answer 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:10.320 Dave's question first, and Bucky knows this as well. When 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:14.320 you're every team is member of a pod, and you know, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:16.920 when they go to the combine, they have a group 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.560 of teams that they work with. So for example, the 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.800 Cowboys might be in the same pod with the Giants, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:27.240 the Buccaneers, the Saints, the Eagles. I mean, they're they're 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.960 a working group of doctors and trainers, and Jim Mauer, 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.240 the trainer, does an excellent job of getting all the 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.960 medical grades from all the teams. So if you get 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.120 a situation where all of a sudden you're seeing Farley's 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.280 name as a fail on a bunch of teams, that 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.360 could be strategy right there. You know, Jim Mauer could 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.920 walk in as they're talking about this. Maureck could say 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.400 eighteen teams have failed Farley on his back. That could 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.440 give you a little idea of like, Okay, who are 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.800 we battling now, who's given him the best grades, who's 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:05.440 given him the passing grades? You know? So yeah, you 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.040 could you could get a pretty good understanding of where 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.960 you're where you need to maybe make this pick. But yeah, 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.640 I listen, if if, if it comes down to Slater 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:21.760 and Certain and Horn and Pitts, and yeah, you're gonna 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.040 look at the healthy guys. You're gonna look at the 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.080 guys that are that are played, uh, you know, and 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:31.360 and again, I can't fight Bucky anymore on Certain. I 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.160 just hope, I hope it Pro Day in Alabama today. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.880 I hope it runs real fast. I really do. That 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:39.080 would make me feel a lot better about the situation. 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:44.240 But I just you just said up here earlier before 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.160 we got on air and talked about you trust the tape, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:50.680 and now you're worried about the Pro Day workout. I 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:55.640 trust the tape. I trust no, No, I absolutely, I 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.560 absolutely trust the tape. Because I've just saying though for 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.120 my own for my own mind, I trust my eyes, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.040 I trust my I don't see a fast player I 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.720 don't see a fast player. That's what I'm saying. I 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:10.480 don't make I don't. I hope he proves me. Well, 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.639 I hope me wrong, because SO see a fast player. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.359 So callin Dave. I'm gonna show your tricks. So when 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.280 I go to Pro Day, normally I always have my 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:22.719 pen But when I go to Alabama Pro Day, we're 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.880 past or ten, I'm bringing my pencil. And the reason 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.439 why I'm bringing my pencil because if he happens to 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:31.720 clock a four or five five, there's an eraser here 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.880 that mysteriously can make that at four four nine round 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.720 the card that I send in. So Ryan and all 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:41.520 the higher us will be satisfied that he's fast enough. Hey, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.720 I'll just say I'm Ryan. Just like Ryan. I tell 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.800 you he likes the thirty eight yard. Dad, I'm saying, Bucky, 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.000 but don't don't work out the pencil. Keep your pen 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.000 Just give me thirty eight yards, just kind of like yards. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.080 If you really want to play, cut that thing. You 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.720 know it's a little bit off. No, I want. I 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:01.439 want the kids. Hey, what do we what do we 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.720 see with the kid bolted from Missouri? You watch that team, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.600 he goes down four or five nine four six z. Yeah. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.720 See it's I'm saying, I mean, you want to Washington's 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.400 the same way. He's a shorter guy, makes a ton 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:16.399 of plays at TCU. I'm saying, the eyes tell me 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.919 a lot. I do I want. Do I want Curtain 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.000 to run fast? Yes? I do. I want to be 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.360 wrong about him, I really do. I mean, you know, look, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:27.720 I would say, I would say this. There are a 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:30.679 couple of things about Curtain. I like Curtain as the player. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.240 I do believe um he has been helped by the 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.200 fact that, look, his dad was an All Pro player, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.679 so he understands. I think he plays take his dad like. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.480 I think he plays the game like a like a 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:44.000 like a grown up. The issue that I will have 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.879 and I think, look, we can't scout the helmet, but 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.640 if you really go back and dig into Alabama corners, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.320 there really hasn't been a star corner to come out 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.520 of Alabama. Like, if we really honestly assess it, as 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.240 good as Alabama has been throughout the years, there hasn't 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.880 been a corner to come out of Alabama and play 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.920 at a level there We're like, oh my gosh, they're 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.800 just a factory producing elite cornerbacks and so there is 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:07.440 something too that and so you have to be able 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.399 to look and see what does it look like. I 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.520 mean even our own digs when Diggs came in, like 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:14.280 there were some things early in the year, You're like, 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.680 I don't know in the speed issue in those things. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.560 So I would just like to say, and I hear you, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.399 and you're not wrong, but yeah, I mean I have 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:28.440 to tell you. All I'm saying is that's all well 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:30.360 and good, like Okay, you could say the same thing 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:34.399 about Alabama safeties. Mark Baron was a huge disappointment. Ha ha, 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:39.960 Clinton Dicks pretty disappointing, Mega fifth Patrick kicks ass well. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.199 And I mean, so all it takes is for the 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.359 right guy to come along and buck the trend. And 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:47.400 so I just I don't necessarily buy that. Yah, that's 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.160 all I'm saying. Now, that's good point. I mean I 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.920 get that, but that's fine. But once you asked Brian 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.399 brought us about Penn State corners, We're still waiting on 0:19:56.440 --> 0:19:59.119 a Penn State corner to play, like, so, I mean 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.119 there's there there's something too sometimes like you have to 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:07.439 get away from like hey whatever, whereas the street corners 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.520 hire your steak. Corners begin to play like there's something 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.320 I don't know if it's into water or whatever, but 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.200 there's something too. You just have to be a little leering, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.000 a little careful because are they coached up so well 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.840 that their max out when they get into the league. Like, 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.440 there's a reason why scouts. There's a reason why scouts 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.960