1 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, luck and load. So Michael 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: I am an holoracious reader and developed the habit of 4 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: reading from my mother, who didn't go to college, but 5 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: you never found her without a book in her presence, 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: books stacked beside her little chair where she and my 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 2: father would sit, he and his lazy boy and her 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: in her chair, books beside the bed. If ever we 9 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: were in the car, there was a book beside her there. 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: But I have learned more despite all my reading, from 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: conversations and life experiences, from people who are very successful, 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: and particularly from their failures, because that's where I think 13 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: we learned the most. Success can give you the false 14 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: view that you're perfect, when in fact it might have 15 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: been a little good luck and you're less keen to 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: look inside yourself. But Chris Pappus is our guest, and 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to go back to a couple of things 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: you said in telling your story. Why do you think 19 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: so many Greeks come to this country and are drawn 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: to hospitality restaurants in particular, And why do you think 21 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: they've been so successful? 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: I think much of it was that when they came over, 23 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 3: they didn't speak the language, and there were just a 24 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: few Greeks that were ahead of them that got into 25 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: the business. And when these new Greeks would come over, 26 00:01:54,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: the business that the earlier Greeks had arrived and gotten 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: into happened to be the restaurant business, uh and and such. 28 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: And that's the first experience they had because they didn't 29 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: know the language. And then pretty much the only place 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: they could really go find somebody to hire them would 31 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: be somebody that could could speak to them in their 32 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: in their home language. And so I think a tremendous 33 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: amount should be credited to the to the early people 34 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: that came over, and they just happened to, you know, 35 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: get in and follow their their earlier arrivals. 36 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: You went to A and M, then you went to IBM. 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 2: You left IBM to come home, and you're talking about 38 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: flipping food to learn the business. If you had not 39 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: come home, there had not been a family business, would 40 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: you have stated, IBM, where do you where? What do 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 2: you think you would have done? What was your passion? 42 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: What are your skill sets? 43 00:02:55,600 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 3: Uh? You know, I think the seeing my family and 44 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: business together growing up. We went through we went through 45 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 3: some downturns in the restaurant supply business. And I'd seen 46 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: how my uncles and and families work together. You know, 47 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: they actually sold their houses to at one point, several 48 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: of them sold their houses to kind of pay the 49 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: banks back when when times were hard in the restaurant 50 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: supply business. And and so I'd seen that, and and 51 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: I think all you know, growing up as a child, 52 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 3: I saw myself and my brothers uh doing the same thing, 53 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: and so we were just kind of uh, my DNA, 54 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: it was built into me. And what would I have done. 55 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: I'd gone and found something to do with my brothers 56 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, and to put our 57 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 3: skill sets together because we are well, we did have 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: some differences in our skill sets and and you know, 59 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: you know, three of us could be better at winning. 60 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: And I see that today. I see I see young 61 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: families that that the next generation is there and they 62 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: have several of them working together, and I think that's 63 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: a real powerful advantage to them rather than just trying 64 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: it out on your own. You just, you know, it's 65 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: so tough to be successful, and I think three working together, 66 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: we're working together is just kind of got a better 67 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: plan for success. 68 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: When it works, it really works, And you know when 69 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: it doesn't, it really doesn't. Last time, I'll bring up 70 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: your Greek heritage and your family. Obviously, your daughter Christina 71 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: works with you now and is a senior leader at 72 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: the company. But your grandmother I used to office. Our 73 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: studio was right next to two thousand and west Loop 74 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: was right next to the Sam Philippi and six'. Ten 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: your tribute to your grandmother in, fact so much as 76 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: putting her likeness on the. Building ya Ya, maris and 77 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: you recreated that. Concept tell me about why it was 78 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: important to you to pay tribute to her and who she. 79 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: Was she Was she was a trail, blazer lady h 80 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: and you, know all all her friends that that have 81 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: known that newer all her life Said mary was just 82 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: a go getter and and she. Was she was a 83 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 3: spark plug and and. Such and you know she actually 84 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: During World war, two, uh she was was taking flying 85 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 3: lessons because In ohio where she was, FROM, uh they 86 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: were building uh trainer, planes and these trainer planes needed 87 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 3: to be flown over to where the future pilots for 88 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: the army would would practice on these and and so 89 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: so my mother signed up without her father's knowledge and 90 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: to go train and fly those those those single engine 91 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: prop planes over uh several hundred miles uh to uh 92 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: where where they were needed for the. War and. Uh 93 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 3: one day they're walking down the street with my mother 94 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: and my, granddad and the pilot training her is walking 95 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: down the street and, Says, mary how your how are 96 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: your flying lessons? Coming and that was the first time 97 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 3: her father had ever heard that she was taking flying. 98 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 3: Lessons then it was the last, last you, know flying 99 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: message lessons she. Took but but that's the type of 100 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: woman she. Was she she was during the. War she 101 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: she did a man's job at the end of the, 102 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: day and so you, know she loved to smoke cigars 103 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 3: uh and uh and she she was a she was 104 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: a trail. 105 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: BLAZER i love stories like that because we think of 106 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: women in that era as as being these, dainty soft 107 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: damsels in. Distress but in fact you find women like 108 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: that who are often the matriarch of the, family the 109 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: leader of the. Family husband goes off to war and, 110 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 2: dies or the husband drinks some self to, death or 111 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: the husband abandons the. Family and those women were tough 112 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: and they pulled it. Together and it's interesting to me 113 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: how so many years later you speak of her in 114 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: such reverential, tones which means she had she she was 115 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 2: very important to, you. 116 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: And you just you never forget. 117 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: That, No, no she definitely. Was and we've we've opened 118 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: a new restaurant on that recognizes her even to a larger, 119 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: extent at The ayahs On, richmond and it's just a 120 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: vehicle tribute to her at the new. 121 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: LOCATION i think that IS i think that is. Cool 122 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: i'm a big fan of. THAT i like to walk 123 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: into a restaurant and see the especially a story like you, 124 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: guys where it's over so many, years one hundred, years 125 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: where you see a tribute to the family and how 126 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: we ended up, here and then you begin to understand 127 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: it's not just the food that comes out on your. 128 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: Plate this is this is a there's, blood sweat and. 129 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Tears there's there's. 130 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: History, uh THERE'S dna and everything and everything you're, doing there's. 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: FAMILY dna to the. 132 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: Whole how it, looks how it, feels who's, hired who works, 133 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,239 Speaker 2: There Chris pappis is our guests. 134 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: More let me, Know. 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: Michael berry's not your. 136 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: God Chris paphos is our guest of The Halfas Restaurant. 137 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: Empire how many locations do you have, Now, christy do 138 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: you actually know an exact? 139 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: NUMBER i don't use an exact. NUMBER i just say 140 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 3: one hundred. 141 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: Plus one hundred plus and that's got to be then 142 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: what ten thousand? 143 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Employees, yes at. Least, wow IF. 144 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 2: I had told you back in seventy six that you 145 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: would have fifty years from, now you would have over 146 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: ten thousand, employees that's crazy and this business that's. 147 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: CRAZY i agree with. 148 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: YOU i would have never never thought. 149 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: That so let's talk about change in all those years 150 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: from the strawberry patch days to. Today what is the 151 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: greatest challenge today compared to when you? 152 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Started? 153 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: What? 154 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: What what has? Changed? 155 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 3: Oh the the technology has changed. Dramatically uh that we 156 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 3: used to you, know take your take your order is 157 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 3: a kind of a simplistic thing to look. At. Uh you, 158 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: know there's you know when we first started, out you 159 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: you the waiter and you knew. It the waiter had 160 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: to write down all the tickets and turn these tickets 161 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: into the kitchen by. Hand and they had to be 162 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: able to read your writing and such like, that and 163 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: and that was the. Problem and we had to we 164 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: had to have our own uh writing skills to name 165 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: all the ingredients and stuff like that so the cooks 166 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: could have. It so so you, know that was a big, 167 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: change you, know people, wise you, know it was it 168 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: Was it was the first time that that college students 169 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: ever came back into the marketplace in, restaurants which was 170 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: which was the one of THE i think the biggest 171 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: change was casual dining when all of a, sudden people 172 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: like you and people that were in college were fine 173 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: for working in a restaurant prior that to the casual 174 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: dining boom in nineteen sixty. Five, there you, know you 175 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: had people that looked down upon the restaurant business and 176 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: the jobs in the restaurant and, such and that all 177 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: changed when nineteen seventy six for, us because that was 178 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 3: the first time we got Into castle dining and we 179 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 3: had a line of people wanting to go to work 180 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: for us at that first casualdining, restaurant which in the coffee, 181 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: shop you never had a line of people lining up 182 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: that wanted to go to work at the coffee, shop 183 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 3: and and that that put us on a new new. Trajectory. 184 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: Uh it was it was the next version of what 185 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: restaurants would. Be the first the first restaurants coming After 186 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: World War two were cafeterias and fast food. Restaurants and 187 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: when this generation The Baby boomers came, along, uh you, 188 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: know they're the people right behind. Them The Baby boomers 189 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: were this class of you, know young people that that 190 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: they they liked working in an environment like. That so 191 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: that was a huge. Change is from from is the 192 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 3: people aspect of who was attracted to to the restaurant. 193 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: Business and AND i don't think we would have had 194 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: a ten thousand person coffee shop business had had not 195 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: casudining into the marketplace a huge right, There the you, 196 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: know just the whole castle dining aspect is has been 197 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: a whole change that uh you could you could get 198 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: uh waited on and, uh the the all the different 199 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: cuisines that you could get was a huge, change uh 200 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 3: as well because all all of a, sudden you, Know 201 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: mexican food you, know became very, popular you, know seafood became. 202 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: Popular and so so those those those were what main 203 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: things that some of the main things that that h 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 3: that took. Place you, know from a from a people, 205 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 3: standpoint you, know you, had, uh you had the back 206 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: of the house people that all of a sudden it 207 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: was found to be a, chef and and to to 208 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: to work in a, restaurant and and and and tell 209 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: your parents you wanted to be a. Chef uh became you, 210 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: know very very you know acceptable as far as as 211 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: far as a. Career so a couple of major changes. 212 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: There you. Know the cost to operate the business today 213 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: is much. Higher it's IT'S i think it's much riskier 214 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: today than than it ever. Was uh at the end 215 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: of the. Day and, uh the pressures of kind of 216 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: what some of these DIFFERENT U states are are doing 217 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: to their to their their how how people are paid is, changing, 218 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 3: uh the economics on. It so it's it's it's a 219 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: very tough. Business. Uh you, know we went through we 220 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 3: went THROUGH covid and about THROUGH. Covid uh every you 221 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: know that most of the restaurants got through there and 222 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 3: and such like. That so so, uh you, know we've 223 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: kept up with the. Changes we've we've, adapted you, know 224 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: over the. Years, uh AND i think we'll just continue 225 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 3: adapting to you, know the changes that that that that 226 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: take place out. There let me. 227 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: Ask, You Chris papus as our. 228 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Guests you, know when you go through what you've, Done 229 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: Strawberry patch leads to papas, seafood and then you add 230 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: a totally different, concept one of the hardest CONCEPTS i 231 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: think to, execute which is text max with. Papasitos and 232 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: then you go into, papadot which is kind of creating 233 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: its own deal with with the seafood and cajun and 234 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: all of those are doing, well and you have the 235 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: papist barbecue over, here which is a whole different set 236 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: of skills and in some cases. Customers and then you 237 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: do the tribute to your, grandmother Yeyo. 238 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: Marris and then you. 239 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: Do the kind of high end seafood over On shepherd 240 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: that's getting all these great. Reviews and then you've you've 241 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: got airport, vending which is its own kind of. 242 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Beasts and then you do this really high end. 243 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: Steakhouse that that is one of the best in the, 244 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: nation which is its own. Beasts why Not i'm glad you, 245 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: haven't but why not pick one and just take that thing, 246 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: nationwide because it seems like it's so much harder to 247 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: do what y'all have, done which is to add all 248 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: these to learn new concepts and cross trained. 249 00:14:54,200 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: People, well in, essence we have taken. Nationwide papados has 250 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: been taken. Nationwide we're in eight states with that, brand 251 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: and and we we've kind of never built more than 252 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: two to three restaurants a. Year. Uh and and to 253 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: get to one hundred, restaurants you, know two to three 254 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: a year has has gotten us. There and we just 255 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: haven't wanted to be you, know necessarily the biggest. Uh you, 256 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: know we just didn't didn't take that. Approach. Uh and 257 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: we wanted we always wanted to stay private at the 258 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: end of the. Day we thought that's. Important. Uh we 259 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 3: like that aspect and and such and so so, uh you, 260 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: know we we've never we've never wanted to push the 261 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 3: pedal and and make the mistakes that you know so 262 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: many of our competitors, have you, know because there's there's 263 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: a lot of risk to you, know kind of rolling 264 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 3: it out and you, know building them like. Crazy and 265 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: and you, know, really you, KNOW i think WE i 266 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: think we saw enough of you know what uh uh 267 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: you know stay here looks like and what success looks 268 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: like and and, such AND i think we were we've been, 269 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: comfortable you, know, uh you know doing what we've been. 270 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: Doing and h and for, us it's it's it's it 271 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 3: can be pretty fast at times some. Years we've built you, 272 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: know three to four restaurants over the, years so so, 273 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: uh you know that's we've haven't sought to be the 274 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: biggest out there THAT i. 275 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Got and what you've, done you've done very. 276 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: Well Chris pappas is our, guest one more, converse one 277 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: more discussion with, him put, up and WHAT. 278 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 3: I see all over the place is people who care 279 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: about looking good while doing. 280 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Evil The Michael verry you. 281 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: Is our guests of The papas, restaurants so many, meals 282 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: so many. 283 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: YEARS i would like to enter. 284 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: Into, evidence, uh seeing no, opposition because so many people, 285 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: COMPLAIN i would like to enter into evidence The Delta 286 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: blues concept that a number of people were upset we 287 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: did not. 288 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Mention among all the. 289 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 2: Others so that has now beneficially Mentioned Chris. Pavis i'm 290 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: going to ask you a couple of QUESTIONS i ask. 291 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: EVERYBODY i study successful. People i'm fascinated by it AND 292 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: i think we can all learn from. It i'd like 293 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: to go through a course of your. Day how much 294 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: of your day is, planned and how much of your 295 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: day is you deal with whatever is the most important 296 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 2: as it. 297 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 4: HAPPENS i have something, PLANNED i have a tremendous scheduler 298 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: that schedules me AND i plug into. 299 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: WHERE i need to plug in in the. Organization and 300 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: so you, know that's done each. Week and SO i have, 301 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 3: that and THEN i have all the THINGS i want 302 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 3: to work on that have two that are challenging THAT 303 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 3: i figure, out you, know HOW i can get involved 304 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: with things that are challenging that maybe my assistant can 305 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: help as. Well so so between those two that pretty 306 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: much takes care of my you, know every, day week 307 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 3: and and. Such and and THEN I I harris AND 308 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: i And Greg we're never office. People we were were 309 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: in the field constantly and and so uh you KNOW 310 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 3: i still carry that on, today that that uh you, 311 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: KNOW i can get WHAT i need to get done 312 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 3: uh in the field and and such like, that and 313 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: and so uh you know that's that's that's been kind 314 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: of our. Style that uh there's an old saying management 315 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: by walking around and that that's kind of what we Uh, 316 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 3: HARRISON i And greg have done uh in in our. 317 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: Life we've never been the office. People we've been uh you, 318 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 3: know close to the where the brands are and uh 319 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 3: in in the restaurants and such like. That and for our. 320 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: Careers so so you, KNOW i would, say you, know 321 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: you don't have to live in an office to be 322 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: in this. Business you, KNOW i think it's important to 323 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: live and live in the environment and in the environments 324 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: that you have out there to look. At you, know 325 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: how how do you operate? Better how do you get 326 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 3: smarter at the end of the. 327 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: Day it's interesting Because i've studied your organization and other, 328 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: organizations and, obviously you, know working for you as a 329 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: waiter thirty five years, AGO i worked With Terry, mitchell 330 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 2: who GREATEST GM i ever, knew loved the guys still 331 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: keep up with still keep up with him to this. 332 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: Day but you have now a professional management team Of Mike, 333 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: rizzo for, instance who came. 334 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: Up through the. 335 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: Ranks AND i noticed how many people like, you Like, 336 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: tilman Like Russell lebara in this, business who guys start 337 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 2: as a bar, back they start as a waiter and 338 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: they end up rising up into professional ranks as opposed 339 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: to going and great having McKinsey consultant types or Or 340 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 2: baying consultant. TYPES i find that very. Interesting it's obviously worked. 341 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 3: WELL i think that is the that's you, know has 342 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: been successful for us and you know the, many the 343 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: many other brands that are out. There you, KNOW i 344 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: think they've they've been hands, on uh and even the 345 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: even the, startups you know where they were totally they 346 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: had to be hands on to be the. Startups and 347 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: so you, know we come from the generation of startups and, 348 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: uh you know that's that's you KNOW i, think which you, 349 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: know every every brand has a, startup and that's a 350 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: beautiful story to hear the. Startups where where did they 351 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: come from as as starting? Out you know that's SO 352 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 3: i love the stories as. 353 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: Well you know that the stories behind the restaurant are 354 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: so much more interesting to me than. 355 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Food IT'S i love, food BUT i love the. 356 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: Stories AND i love it when places tell their story 357 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: on their walls so that you buy into. It it's 358 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: it's more of an emotional. CONNECTION i want to ask, 359 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: You Chris pappas as our, GUESTS i want to ask 360 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 2: you about a concept you came up with or something 361 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: that y'all did in the restaurants that maybe people questioned 362 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: whether that was such a great, idea but it hit 363 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 2: and you take great pride in the fact of, yeah 364 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: see it did work when others said it wouldn't or 365 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: when it was really cutting, edge. 366 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: You, Know papas were the. Steakhouse we really stepped out 367 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: and we did that here we, were we were our 368 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: birth was a coffee. Shop and in nineteen seventy, Four 369 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: Strawberry patch was kind of passe said it served a 370 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 3: little bit of every type of food and. Uh and 371 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 3: at that time when we decided it was time to 372 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: retire the concept because it had done so much for, Us, 373 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: uh we, said what do we want to do? Next 374 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: and and, uh the only two steakhouses in town were 375 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: The palm And Ruth, chris and that to me that 376 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: that was it and that we're high end and AND i, 377 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: said you, Know houston needs a high end steakhouse with 378 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 3: the finest wine. List and where when when somebody comes 379 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: to town at The galleria especially and they go to 380 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 3: talk to because of, here they're going to ask, them you, 381 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: know where's where's where's your best? Steakhouse AND i, said you, 382 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 3: Know houston needed a, local not an out of town 383 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: or for, that AND i, said that's that's the vision 384 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: we have for the steakhouse that we're going to. Build 385 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: it's going to be the best. Steakhouse it's going to 386 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 3: be best steakhouse maybe In, texas but but for sure 387 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: it's going to the best steakhouse In. Houston and we 388 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: want the finest wine list and and such and the 389 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: the the what we know about. Food we're gonna we're 390 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 3: gonna have the finest steaks and the best age tasting 391 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: steaks on our menus and and. Such and we gave 392 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: that vision to our team and we said spend. It 393 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: let's go for, it and and and you, know we 394 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 3: we put it together and uh and and that's where 395 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: we ended, UP i, think and AND i think the 396 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: the it was a risky attempt to go from where 397 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: we were as were dining to high end uh some 398 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: uh you, know two thousand wines on your wine list 399 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: and such and and and it was a big, jump you, 400 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: know from from guys that did start, out you, know 401 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 3: doing short ordered cooking sort of. 402 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: BREAKFAST i think for something like thirty one. DAYS i 403 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: mean that that's not for the light of. Heart that 404 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: that's pretty. HARDCORE i have to ask, you BECAUSE i Promised, 405 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: crockett my, youngest THAT i would about his favorite, restaurant 406 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: and that Is. Papisburger he absolutely Loves. Papisburger, uh if 407 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: you've ever thought about doing another. One it's an interesting. 408 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 3: Concept we we we we did it very successfully for 409 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: twenty plus years in the airport and At hobby and 410 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: and we are we are going to do it. Again 411 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: we're gonna do it again at in in the d 412 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: F w. Airport Uh and in a year we're going 413 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: to do a Papist burger d F w the airport 414 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: as well as the spaces they have up. There so, 415 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: yeah we we we think about it all the. Time 416 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: we we did it one time In dallas as, well 417 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 3: and probably wasn't the, best uh you use of the 418 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: of the property where we. Went and and so, yeah 419 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: we'll probably do that. AGAIN i CAN'T i can't tell you, 420 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: when but it's people love it and and thank you 421 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: for for crop uh you know asking that question about 422 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: not the. 423 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: Restaurant he loves. 424 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: It we do a you get to choose when it's 425 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: your birthday for everybody in the, family And crockett's is Always. 426 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: Papisburger if you can hold with me for one more, 427 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: SEGMENT i Promise i'll let you go after. THAT i 428 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: have a great Story i've told it before about an 429 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: employee at The PAPIs burger and when you talk about 430 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: going above and, BEYOND i know that every employer would 431 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: hope that you'd have a story like this in Your. 432 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: Arsenoi it's an amazing. Story i'll tell you, That chris 433 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 2: paps guess. COMING i was Watering Chris pappas of The 434 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: papas family of residents of, restaurants that most every houstone 435 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 2: in and maybe most Every american has EATEN a at 436 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 2: one point or, another either in your city or at 437 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: the airport named a few years, AGO i think THE dfw, 438 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 2: location they were named the number one airport concessionaire in 439 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: the entire. COUNTRY a pretty big, DEAL a really really 440 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 2: big deal is they were at the time under attack 441 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 2: by The city Of houston THAT i think has absolutely 442 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: wronged them in an inside deal at the. 443 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: Airport BUT i. 444 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: Digress Chris, PAPIs i'm sure that in your, business like most, 445 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: PEOPLE i Asked tony vallone one, time and it's one 446 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: of the most interesting ANSWERS i ever got to a 447 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: question like. THIS i, Said, tony what is something that 448 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: every restaurant everyone could do, well that's not that, hard 449 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: that would make a difference to success and. Failure and 450 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: he said serve hot food, hot cold food, Cold And 451 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 2: i've studied THAT i love a chilled salad when it comes. 452 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: OUT i love a plate that's. Heated when you walk 453 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 2: into a, Restaurant i'm sure you can't help. It you 454 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 2: say whether this is going to succeed or, not and 455 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: you look at things that every restaurant could do better 456 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: or a little checklist of simple. Things what are a 457 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: couple of things that you look at and, go get 458 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: this part? Right if nothing, else. 459 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: We set out to give out the outstanding, customer, customer, guests, service. Hospitality. 460 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: Uh if we were going to, Win, uh we we 461 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: had we had to win on. That we weren't going 462 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: to win on size or how big a company we. 463 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: Were we were going to win by, executing, executing executing 464 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 3: and at the highest level and, training as you, Know, 465 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: uh it is such a big part of what we 466 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: have have you, know based our concept on it is 467 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 3: we're going to have people, trained you, know and give 468 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: them a chance to be. Successful and that's why our 469 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: training program was longer than most out. There and it's 470 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 3: kind of nuts and, bolts just Like Tony bolone, said 471 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: it's it's hot, food hot and cold, food cold and 472 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 3: and then it's, about you, know the service level You 473 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: you've got to you've got to be consistent and you 474 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 3: only get you you you get Your you're tested every 475 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: day at every. Location you're only as good as the 476 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 3: last meal that she. Served and so so if you believe, 477 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 3: that then you put the training behind. It and our 478 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 3: team has done, that you know since since The Strawberry. 479 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: Patch we we started it there and you know we've 480 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: just uhive had gotten better and better at at how 481 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: how do we execute? THAT i, mean we've we've seen 482 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 3: the changes that the technology has helped us as well 483 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 3: to be able to train better than than we, did you, 484 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 3: know you know thirty years. Ago and so so you, 485 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: know it's got hospitality and uh you know the basics 486 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: of the food ry hot food and cold and co, 487 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: food hot. Food uh that that's that's never. Changed he's right, 488 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 3: on you, know on. That and then you know you 489 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: have to execute every part of your of your brand, 490 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: promised you, know out there every. 491 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: Day, CHRIS i GUESS i worked for you thirty five years. 492 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: AGO i met you for the first time at WHEN 493 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: i was On City council and you were involved with 494 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: The Houston restaurant, association and and uh there was a 495 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: smoking ordinance going, on and there were several food service related. 496 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: Issues when you look at the regulatory environment and the political, 497 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: environment as it affects your ability to be, profitable which 498 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: otherwise businesses go. Out how is that environment as a 499 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 2: restaurant tour Generally, Houston texas and, beyond. 500 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Is it easier or? 501 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Harder is the government more difficult to deal with today 502 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: than it was, before whether that's, local state or federal or? 503 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: Easier BECAUSE i know that is a big problem in this. 504 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: Business it's already a tough competitive. 505 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Business it. 506 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: Is texas were really blessed because of the laws there 507 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: is especially in. Employment, uh we we don't have we 508 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: don't have the as the problems that many states are. 509 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Experiencing uh in in the in the in laws in 510 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 3: regard to white staff employees and so So texas has 511 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 3: been much more. Friendly uh and in regard to to 512 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: operate us as far as you, know regulatory uh, Issues 513 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: uh you, KNOW i, think, uh you, know we we 514 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: have have always had to deal with, it but typically 515 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: that the the regulatory for as the Health department and 516 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: and such like. That and, uh, smoking you, know getting 517 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: rid of Smoking, uh you, know some of the regulations 518 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: have been, great getting rid of smoking in the, restaurants 519 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 3: which was how you, know we felt like was always 520 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 3: that was something that would be a problem if it 521 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: was ever. Removed it's it's been a it's been a 522 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: windfall for restaurants at the end of the day that 523 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 3: smoking was taken away from uh your, restaurants and and 524 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: so you, know there's a there's a plus you know 525 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 3: two you, know things that that we thought were going 526 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: to be you, know uh continue to be you know 527 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: good for, restaurants and ashally were actually we were benefited 528 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: more by taking it. Out so so you, Know i'm 529 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: happy with the regulatory stuff that goes. On that's that 530 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 3: works in a positive fashion, Obviously and as a restaurant, 531 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: association well we will bring up it's problematic and try 532 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: to you, know let the different regulatory bodies understand that 533 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 3: that's not. Necessary so so we you, know we dress 534 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: that you know every. Day texas does a better job 535 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: of it than anywhere. Else thank, YOU i HAVE. 536 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if this story ever made it on your. 537 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: Desk i've told everybody over there that will listen to, 538 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: it BUT i think it speaks a lot about the 539 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: culture of your, operation And Russell lebara has said for 540 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: years that you have the best restaurant. 541 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: Culture and he's a, competitor so to. 542 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: Speak SO i think that's the highest company you can. 543 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Get But. 544 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: Crockett's favorite restaurant Is, papisburger and he wears a, retainer 545 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 2: but he has to take the retainer out when he, 546 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: eats so he takes the retainer ound and he will 547 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: put it inside a napkin so that other people don't 548 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 2: have to see his wet retainer on the. 549 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: Table he thinks that kind of, looks so of course 550 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: he did, that and. 551 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: Being a teenager he WAS i don't, know, SEVENTEEN i 552 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: guess at the, time sixteen at the. Time and we 553 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: left and he left his retainer on the. Table so 554 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: we got home and we called and, said any chance 555 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: you haven't busted that. Table there's no. Chance and you, 556 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: know here's where we, were, WELL i think his name Is. 557 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: Nick there's a waiter there who kind of he floats 558 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: as a. Manager, also he's also in, school great young. 559 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 2: Guy he's probably early twenties by now. Anyway so we 560 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: come driving back up there to at least look around 561 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 2: and by this time he has found our. Retainer and 562 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: the way he found our retainer was he traced where 563 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 2: that table had been bussed into what trash back he 564 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: went and dumped an entire massive trash. Bag now puts 565 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 2: his gloves on and goes digging in there and finds 566 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: that damn. Retainer they're insanely, expensive by the, way and finds. 567 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 2: It and when we get, there it has been washed, 568 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: off and he's found it for, us and there's a 569 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 2: big pilot trash in the. 570 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: Back SO i lost my. 571 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: MIND i could not believe a kid had this kind 572 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: of attention to detail and, hospitality and and so since 573 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: then he has become like a friend of the. Family 574 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 2: And crockett always sits in his section when we go. 575 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: Back but WHEN i think about how many kind of 576 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: listless you, know mail it in staff there, ARE i 577 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: think that probably says more about the papist, culture because 578 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: you can't make every meal and you can't serve every, 579 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 2: meal so on behalf of a lot of happy patrons 580 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: over a lot of. Years i'm out of, time BUT 581 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: i wanted to say thank. You you have made the 582 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: city Of houston, better you and your entire. Family Chris, pappas. 583 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on and you're 584 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: one of my graduates And i'm we're so proud of, 585 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: that the career you've, taken and we hope we played 586 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: a little part in your success having worked for. Us 587 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: thank you very. Much Michael, berry my good. Friend you 588 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: hear that. 589 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: Remark, see there's some, respect there's some respect on my 590 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: name from. 591 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: Now h 592 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: M hm