1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the six? DJ Buck 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: with you, Buck? 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: What is going on? Man? None? 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: DJ Man, And I guess this is a very exciting 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: time in football because we're in the thick of the 7 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 3: college football season, got the NFL coming to the midpoint, 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: trade deadline is. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: About the pop, so there's a lot of stuff going on. 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: So I feel like we're beginning to see the best 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: ball that we're going to see now that people are 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: kind of settling in and kind of get into their routines, 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: particularly the NFL loove. 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's kind of everything's settling down. I told 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: you I've got my video coming here to jump on 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the college guys because there's now enough, there's enough out 17 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: there that you can get some homework done. You're gonna 18 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: start on those offensive linemen, start working through those guys, 19 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: and then we're off and running. Man, I'm fascinated by this, 20 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: like this class. I'm fascinated by how the conversation started 21 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks and how it's going to finish. 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: And I think it's always fun. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: And when we get to March in April, when we 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: had the paths of the draft and we're running up 25 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: and we were talking about these guys. 26 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: It will be interesting to look at the notebooks from 27 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: the summer and the notebooks from the spring, because I 28 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: believe there's gonna be a completely different set of names 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: that we talked about that we didn't talk about it. 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Can I hit that real quick, because that's a great point, 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: and I wanted to give you my thoughts on it 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: and see if we're on the same page. In years past, 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: if you had the year like you were coming into 34 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: the year, say you were a junior and you were 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: expected to be a first round pick or there was 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of buzz and a lot of hype on 37 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: you and it didn't go your way, well, the agents 38 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: would still get you with, hey, look there's a chance 39 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: you go back and you end up with the same performance. 40 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: Your stock gets even lower, like right now, maybe your 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: third round pick, fourth round pick, but you'll start the clock. 42 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: You're gonna get paid, and then it gets you closer 43 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: to your second contract. 44 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: You know. 45 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: That's to me was the sales pitch. Well, now, man, 46 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: there's tons of money in college. We've seen over the 47 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: last you know, five years, the guys who've come in 48 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: and had success or guys who played a ton of ball. 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: So it's only going to help you to get all 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: those reps with the to be honest, with the less 51 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: stressful reps than at the NFL level, where as soon 52 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: as you get on the field, it feels like the 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: clocks ticking on your judgment. So I'm hoping and we'll 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: see once we get to the spring, and hopefully these 55 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: guys finish up strong. But there's a lot of these 56 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: guys that do have some eligibility left. I hope they 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: take advantage of it. 58 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: I look, I think they should. 59 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: I think they should max out their opportunities, particularly particularly 60 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: at the collegiate level, when it's been proven the more 61 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: you play at the college level, the more likely you 62 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: play better at the NFL level, And we have a 63 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: bunch of examples. 64 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 2: That illustrate that right now with the young quarterbacks. 65 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be interesting when we talk about 66 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: the quarterbacks, like you look at a Carson back situation 67 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: where he has been around for a long time and 68 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: now he's playing in Miami, have to being at Georgia 69 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: and the time on task and how they may benefit 70 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: him when people start looking at him in those things. 71 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: I just think there's so many benefits for that position, 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: in particular where they are getting paid top of the 73 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: market money in college to stay there, unless you really have. 74 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: To make that jump. 75 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: To me, I think it's beneficial because I'm getting paid well, 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm getting paid, and I can get the reps, and 77 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: it's been proven that I could get more reps in college, 78 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: I'm performed better in the NFL and potentially avoid a 79 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: bad situation at the top of the charts. 80 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you explore that if you have that available 81 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: to you. Yeah, I think it makes a lot of sense. 82 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: So we'll see how these guys finish up and what 83 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: they decide they want to do when we get to 84 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: that point, Buck, I did a little project, two little projects, 85 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and I wanted to get you on. The first one 86 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: was we've talked about Travis Hunter, you know, a good 87 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: bit on here, but I hadn't taken the time to 88 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: like really jump in on them and ahead of ahead 89 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: of your game. This weekend I went through and watched 90 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: all of his targets and was trying to see, you know, 91 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: what can they do, like, how can they how can 92 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: they unlock him a little bit more. 93 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: So I'll give you a couple of my findings on that. 94 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: And then I love, as someone who's around it day 95 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: in and day out and every single week, I love 96 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: to hear what your your formula would be for how 97 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: you'd want to approach it going forward. But so let's 98 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: just look at the numbers right now. He's got twenty 99 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: one catches for one hundred and ninety eight yards going 100 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: through PFF on thirty five targets. One of the unusual 101 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: nuggets I looked at, and I don't know on some 102 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: of these. Sometimes on PFF there could be penalties and 103 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: things could be called back. But based off just watching 104 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: all the targets, I had four picks. I had Trevor 105 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence with four interceptions on balls and intended for Travis Hunter. 106 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: So I mean there's been some there's been some force 107 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: feeding there at times when it hasn't necessarily been there, 108 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: and it's got him in a little bit of trouble. 109 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that stood out. A 110 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: ton of quick hitters, a ton of quick screens, hitches, flats, 111 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of option routes, shallows, a couple overs, 112 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: but the one, you know, the seam ball was you know, 113 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: he made a big time play down the scene on 114 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: one and then like another d on a deep over. 115 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: I think can't City game. We had a big play, 116 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: But you know what I did not see on there, 117 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: which I was a little surprised. I think he's one 118 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: of the best, like fifty to fifty go ball guys 119 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: that we've seen over the last few years. You saw 120 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: that at Colorado a lot like outside Chador just giving 121 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: him a chance. I think to the North Dakota State 122 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: game in particular, him just mossing a guy down the field. 123 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: And I won't going through all the targets, but I 124 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: didn't see any. I didn't see any outside vertical shots 125 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: with him at all. 126 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 3: No, So it's kind of funny because I believe there 127 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 3: are a lot of things that are working at one time. 128 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: Lin Poyn, first time head coach, play caller with Trevor 129 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: Lawrence trying to do all of this, and to me, 130 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: when I look at this offense, it reminds me of 131 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 3: the twenty eighteen version of The Rams where you're trying 132 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: to repair Jared Goff. 133 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: You're trying to put it together. 134 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: But the one thing that the Ram said is they 135 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: had Tyd Gurley that they could lean on early until 136 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: they could solve all the issues with the passing game. Now, 137 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: what you're trying to do is get Trevor Lawrence up 138 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: and going comfortable, trying to figure out, Okay, Brian Thomas Junior, 139 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: he's my number one. Is Travis hunumber two? The pecking 140 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: order in those things, but it's also looking at what 141 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: do each of these players do really well. It's one 142 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: thing to establish the pecking order. It's another thing to 143 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: now put a plan that features routes that play to 144 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: the skill set of each player. Early on, there was 145 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: a conversation in the building that maybe Travis Hunter is 146 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: more like a Justin Jefferson type in this offense, and 147 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: they had done the numbers. If you look at Justin 148 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: Jefferson's numbers last year, he had eighteen percent of his routes. 149 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 3: We're inbreaking routes. Travis Hunting to me because in my aspension, 150 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: he's the best ball catcher on the team. He catches 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: the ball in traffic without plinching, no issue or whatever. 152 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: To me, you've seen all those quick hitters, those five 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: yard ends. I think they need to expand it where 154 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: he becomes the dig runner, he becomes the deep overrunner. 155 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: He does the dirty work in the middle. And I 156 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: know people talk about his size, but DJ you see 157 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: it in the tape. There are two things that he 158 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 3: does really well. He catches the ball and when he 159 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 3: gets the ball in his hands, it is rare that 160 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: the first guy tackles him. He has unbelievable stop start 161 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 3: quickness and just awareness and feel and he hasn't taken 162 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: a shot. To me, I think not that you reset 163 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: the pecking ward and make him the number one receiver, 164 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: but I do believe there's a world in which the 165 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: Jaguars can live where there's a one A, one B 166 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: situation with him and Brian Thomas Judy. 167 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up a good point. He does do 168 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: a good job on that stuff. It just hasn't been 169 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: given opportunities really to do much of it. That's why 170 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: to me that seam ball was impressive. But I just 171 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: I just feel like, man, let's let's try and get 172 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: him some one on ones and let's let him go 173 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: play above the rim. The guy's got unbelievable leaping ability 174 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: and ball skills down the field. 175 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: He does it all the time. The Cats versus Kansas City. 176 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 3: But when he reaches over the guy and puts it 177 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: like that's like it's more like find more and really 178 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: is I think Trevor getting comfortable with knowing that if 179 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: he's covered, he's open. 180 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: Like I said, there's been four picks, but those four 181 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: picks were kind of like underthrown and like some of 182 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: it is you know, I don't think he's you talk 183 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: about Justin Jefferson, like, I don't think he's you know, 184 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the polish as a wide out to 185 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: be like you see him running comebacks the corners got 186 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: outside leverage and he's trying to lean him inside. 187 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: Well you've got to get to him. You got to 188 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 2: get to him before you do that. 189 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: And so he just kind of opens the door for 190 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: him to make Yeah, you got to get upon his 191 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: toes and all that. So I don't think there's that 192 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: that type of policy. I'm like, I'm looking for athlete throws, 193 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: like just be an athlete, go get it. The other 194 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: thing is what I well, I was kind of surprised 195 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I thought we would see is like there's no like 196 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: orbit motion with him. I don't know what, you know, 197 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: I always called those little escort screens where you gotta 198 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: get kind of the tight end out and then him 199 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: out there with the lead blocker. 200 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: A lot of it is just quick. 201 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: He's just one on one, you know, just got to 202 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: make that guy miss and do something with it. I'm like, man, 203 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 1: I think you could give him a little blocker out 204 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: there too and let him do it that way. 205 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's there's so much meat on the bone. 206 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny, right because you have these 207 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: weapons and toys that you're trying to figure out to play. 208 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: I feel like it's Christmas Day and you try to 209 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: figure Okay, I got the quarterback. Who Oh, he might 210 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 2: be more athletic than I thought. He can run a 211 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: little bit. 212 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: Oh where is he at when it comes to pushing 213 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: the ball down the field after we give him so 214 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 3: much at the line of scrimmage? 215 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: Oh, Brian Thomas Jr. He's supernatural and gifted. What works 216 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: for him? 217 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: Oh maybe this doesn't work, so maybe we need to 218 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 3: put him in this lane. Parker Washington is intriguing. You 219 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: got Travis Hunt go on both sides. There's a lot. 220 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: I've always believe and I've actually been surprised at the 221 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: way that they've come out the gate. 222 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: I feel like. 223 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: Their best ball would be after the bye week, after 224 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: they reset, recalibrate, take all the information in. Yeah, Like, Okay, 225 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: here's where we are from an efficiency standpoint. These are 226 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 3: the things that we need to do to maximize the 227 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: talents that we have. 228 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: And you make that presentation in front of team. 229 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: Hey, guys, here's what we thought we were going to be, 230 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: but here's what we ought to be based on what 231 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: the number. 232 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 2: Saying, what the production has been. Yea, ain't no doubt. 233 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how this kind of grows and 234 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: evolves as we go forward. Here, I gave you a 235 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: little homework assignmon bucket. I'll give you mine first and 236 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: then uh and then we'll get to yours. But I 237 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: was looking at the AFC and I got to do 238 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: this for a little TV thing. But they're like, how 239 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: would you stack the top five teams in the AFC? 240 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Right now? 241 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: We talked about the other day with the topsy turvy 242 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: nature of it, with you know, Burrow's injury, Lamar Jackson's injury. 243 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo's now lost two games in a row. They're skidding 244 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think what the expectation was, you know, 245 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: Kansas City is now clicking, but that wasn't a great 246 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: start to the season for them, So it's a little 247 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: it's a little upside down right now. So I looked 248 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: at it and said, Okay, I'm gonna go I'm gonna 249 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: go resumes and uh and who I think the five 250 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: best teams are right now, So not not I'm not 251 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: saying this projects to what it's going to look like 252 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: at the end of the year, but just kind of 253 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: as we take this six week snapshot, this is how 254 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: I came down with it. 255 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 2: One I had Indy. 256 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: You know, I just think Indy, with the record they have, 257 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: they're five and one. They've got to win over Denver, 258 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: which is a great win. So I put them at 259 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: five and one. I'll get called a homer on this one, 260 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: but I put the charters at two just be because 261 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: of the quality win they beat Denver and Kansasity. Those 262 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: are two playoff wins. They're four and two, and their 263 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: whole team's been decimated. I mean, they just won a 264 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: game last week with their fifth and sixth tackles, with 265 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: their third running back, no Khalil Mack, no Denzel Perriman. 266 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, they've you know, they're a four and two 267 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: team that's going to get a lot of these guys 268 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: coming back. But I just think the quality of wins 269 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: that they've had. They've swept the division, three division wins 270 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: in the AFC West to start the season. So that's 271 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: why I had them at two to one spot ahead 272 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, who I just thought Pittsburgh only has one loss, 273 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: but I thought the Chargers had more impressive wins uh 274 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: than Pittsburgh did. I put k C at four, and man, 275 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: they were charging fast and they're getting they're getting right offensively, 276 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: and you had a big time receiver into the mix 277 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: there as well. And then the fifth spot, I came 278 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: down to Denver and Buffalo, and I ended up going Denver. 279 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: And maybe that's some reason see bias because Buffalo's dropped 280 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: a couple of games, But I just think that Denver defense, 281 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: if you're going to look at the four units between 282 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: Denver and Buffalo, I think Denver's defense is the best 283 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: of the four in terms of the two offenses, the 284 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: two defenses. 285 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: No, man, it's not a bad list. 286 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: I think what's interesting when you talk about having to 287 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: make the hard conversation between Denmer in Buffalo. 288 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: I was on a podcast in Buffalo and I. 289 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: Made the point, they may they may be the best 290 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: team with the least talented roster. 291 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: If I can make this, it's like they when you 292 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: look at their blue chips, they squeeze the most out 293 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: of the orange. 294 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean you talk about you talk 295 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: about Josh Allen, maybe talk about Dion Dawkins being a player, 296 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: James cookwoot, but DJ compared to what we've talked about, 297 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: and we've talked about eight to twelve are required to 298 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: be a championship team. 299 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 2: They don't have that. 300 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: They play great together, but they don't have on paper 301 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 3: what you traditionally need to have to be a championship team. Now, 302 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: when I look at it in AFC, it's so funny 303 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: that you have the Indianapolis coast up there, because very 304 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: similar I would have Indy Pittsburgh or have the Chargers. 305 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: Don't have the Chiefs in the top five, I would 306 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: have the Broncos after that, and then I'm kind of 307 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: stuck with the you know, like it's to feel a 308 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: good story of. 309 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: The Patriots and in the Bills. 310 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: And here's the thing why I would lean towards the 311 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: Patriots coaching in quarterback. And I'm not saying that Drake 312 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: May is a superior quarterback to Josh Allen Man, that 313 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel you're talking about squeezing it out of whatever 314 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 3: the Patriots have. Drake May and Josh Daniel McDaniels are 315 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: on another level right now in terms of what they're 316 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: doing and how they're getting it done. And I expected 317 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 3: it to happen, but not this year. I expected them 318 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: to re emerge as a winning franchise and be all 319 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: those things that they've been. I did not expect to 320 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: see it this soon. Stefan Diggs helps, But and I'll 321 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: say this, and sometimes love and eyes can be the 322 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: harshest eyes, because I saw Drake May from the time 323 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: he was in high school at Myers Park all the 324 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 3: way through. Sometimes your expectations are there because you're too 325 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: close to it, and so maybe you're hard on him 326 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: doing the draft process and all that he plays for 327 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 3: your alma mater and all that other stuff. But DJ 328 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: when you step back and you look at him and 329 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: you talk about what we're going to say, is like 330 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: a very good quarterback class that came out a couple 331 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: of years ago. 332 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: He's playing the best right now. I mean he is 333 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: daling bo Nix. 334 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean he is unbelievable, and he 335 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 3: has what I always love and the quarterback he has 336 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: a quiet swagger to. 337 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: Him that is not overwhelming, you know what I mean. 338 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: It's not a look at me or whatever, but he 339 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: has some of that I got this coach, And I 340 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: think anyone who's been around the game, you always like 341 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: your quarterback that in that moment he's running back onto 342 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 3: the field and the coach he's like, hey, don't get 343 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: He's like, I got this. 344 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean I think you tell me. But 345 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: they're going on the road and winning at Buffalo. I 346 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: think it is one of, if not the best wins 347 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: in the entire season so far, any great, great win. 348 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: And you know what we always know when it comes 349 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: to Mike rabel One, he's one of the best ratherius tacticians, 350 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: however you want to call it, in terms of game 351 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 3: day strategy, getting the team to do whatever they need 352 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 3: to do to win the game. 353 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: He's terrific at that. 354 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: He understands the ins and outs of the rules and 355 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: how they like bleed it out if they need to 356 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: bleed it out if he feels like they're the undogged, 357 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: they take care of business if they're the favorite. But 358 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: man I would say, like confidence that his team is 359 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: beginning to play with they're dangerous, Like they're dangerous because. 360 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: They don't even know what they don't know yet. 361 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: And when they start to get the young guys up 362 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: and going with these other like, they're a really good team. 363 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: No doubt. 364 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: It's fun to watch all those young guys out there 365 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: performing and doing a nice job. That's why it's a 366 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: little bit of a trick the exercise there in the AFC. 367 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: I think the and look, we get the Chargers and 368 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the Colts squaring off this week, so that'll that'll help 369 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: determine how I see the top of the top of 370 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: the conference settling in right now. So that'll be a 371 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: fun one. Looking forward to that. All right, buck, a 372 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: quick one today. We want to get one in before 373 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: we're on the road here. You got to get Overseas, 374 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: I've got to get up to LA. We've got all 375 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: kind of stuff going on, so we wanted to make 376 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: sure we kept the pod train rolling here. So we 377 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys hanging with us. We've got a fun 378 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: one Tomorrow, We've got our conversation with our buddy Maurice 379 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Jones Drew where we'll talk about all things running backs 380 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: and maybe see if we can't have some connective tissue 381 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: with all these great backs and the really the rush 382 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: rushing numbers across the league are up, so we'll get 383 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: his take on that. 384 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: Look, man, it should be a lot of fun to 385 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: have him on. He is always a blast. Looking forward 386 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: to the commode. 387 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: Yep, that'll be tomorrow, so be on the look out 388 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: for that our conversation with Maurice Jones Drew. Until then, 389 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: we appreciate you having a wonderful day. We'll see you 390 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: next time. Right here on, move the sticks.