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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. Pablo is in Chicago, east of the Rockies

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Speaker 1: on Coast to Coast, Pablo, how do you do? Doctor Punnett?

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to talking to you. I have a question

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Speaker 1: if you talk to me about the Bible I'm concerned about.

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Speaker 1: I'm totally blind. I'm a blind to veteran. I was

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Speaker 1: in the Air Force security story was just like one

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Speaker 1: of your favorite callers calling the centurion from Louisiana to

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Speaker 1: these Bible and blooded man. Anyway, my question and my

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Speaker 1: concern is I'm an avid Bible reader even though I'm blind.

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Speaker 1: I listened to it on the radio, sure, and they've

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Speaker 1: been covering stories about the anti Christ. Okay, concerns me

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Speaker 1: that this character, and I hope you bear with me.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has gotten away with so much mischief. And

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Speaker 1: just yesterday on a program WB e Z I did

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Speaker 1: a story about the a evangelical church, right, the entire

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Speaker 1: evangelical church. In one instance in Arizona, they threw out

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Speaker 1: their pastor because he was kind of critical about the

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Speaker 1: big lie. And they've been seeing songs almost in holy

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Speaker 1: obasance to Donald Trump. All Right, So you know, a

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Speaker 1: question to appeal to you. I think that he fits

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Speaker 1: the profile of the anti Christ. He doesn't. He doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And and so again I don't I like to keep

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Speaker 1: politics out of the show, especially on a Friday when

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Speaker 1: we try to have a little fun. But let me

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Speaker 1: that and just for the purposes of this conversation, if

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Speaker 1: we're going by the biblical record, right, the biblical record

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Speaker 1: says that there are many anti Christs. And this, this

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Speaker 1: term of the anti Christ has been you know, bandied

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Speaker 1: about for centuries. Martin Luther called the pope at the

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Speaker 1: time the anti Christ. The pope at the time called

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Speaker 1: Martin Luther the anti Christ. So, I mean, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that say it. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's an easy political gain in some ways to paint

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Speaker 1: somebody as being so evil that they are an anti Christ.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, even in the Bible, the

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Speaker 1: Bible speaks plural of the anti Christ. So there are

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Speaker 1: anti Christs everywhere. But that doesn't it still doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: I think that even if we were to eliminate it

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Speaker 1: to just one, right, and we're going to use the

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Speaker 1: Omen or something like that as being our model. Remember

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Speaker 1: the Omen is a work of fiction in the way

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Speaker 1: in which they portrayed the Antichrist, and they used they

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Speaker 1: formed a kind of a holy trinity, if you will,

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Speaker 1: that the evil holy Trinity. But that's not biblical. That's

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Speaker 1: that's what we would call extra canonical um and it

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Speaker 1: sort of gets retroactively fit into the scriptures. But the

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Speaker 1: narrative that's in The Omen or other movies about that,

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Speaker 1: that's that's really just a fiction. That is sort of

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Speaker 1: what we might say based on a true story. Right.

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Speaker 1: They take certain elements from the Bible that help it

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Speaker 1: make it seem more believable, but in and of itself,

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Speaker 1: it's already a false narrative. What do you think so far? Well,

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Speaker 1: I uh, you speak about the Omen, but that's all

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Speaker 1: a fiction in fictitious But my point is that in

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Speaker 1: reality we have a man that has worked so much

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Speaker 1: mischief and gotten away with it. It's just amazing. Well

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Speaker 1: it's always been the case, has co opted uh, the

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Speaker 1: An institution, Evan Evangelical Church, so much so that, as

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Speaker 1: I said, they're practically falling down in holy obasance to him. Well,

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Speaker 1: but said, the same might be said about Okay, but

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Speaker 1: the same might be said about liberal churches that are

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Speaker 1: in lockstep with you know, more liberal politicians. UM So

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that is a legitimate criticism in

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Speaker 1: that way. I'm trying to honor your question, and at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I just think it's really important. Um

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Speaker 1: you know again, I I don't like to get into politics.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I would have this conversation with

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Speaker 1: you for four hours over a coffee right at a

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Speaker 1: sidewalk cafe on Michigan Avenue. We could, we could go

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Speaker 1: on forever, and I would find it very interesting myself.

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Speaker 1: But there is no like you know, Donald Trump is

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Speaker 1: not the beast from the abyss. Let me just say that, right.

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Speaker 1: He's he's not the dragon, He's he's not the son

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Speaker 1: of perdition. I'm trying to think of other terms that

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Speaker 1: have been thrown about. It's a very different dynamic and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't fit it, that's all. And he would not

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Speaker 1: say that he's opposed to Christ, which would be the

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Speaker 1: first characteristic of an anti Christ. Does he have personality

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Speaker 1: traits that I don't find attractive or good in a leader. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because in my view, leaders eat last, and those are

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Speaker 1: my favorite leaders in history. But we'll just leave it

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Speaker 1: there for now and avoid the perbly on coast to coast, am,

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Speaker 1: let me go to West of the Rockies. Marcy is

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Speaker 1: in San Diego. Marcy him. I've been listening to this

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Speaker 1: show for decades, and numerous just have said that the

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Speaker 1: real anti Christ, you'll know the real one because you'll

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Speaker 1: want to put a mark on the back of your

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Speaker 1: hand or anyway a mark, right and uh, and they

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Speaker 1: always say, and the and the previous prophecies have all

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Speaker 1: come to pass. Yeah, this one, well, I just I

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Speaker 1: just wondered what were the previous ones. So I asked

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Speaker 1: a friend who studies the Bible if she could give

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Speaker 1: me an abbreviated list of some of these ones that

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Speaker 1: have come to pass into in modern English, not arcake

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Speaker 1: like in the Bible. It might say Abraham the gats Isaac.

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Speaker 1: That means Abraham fathers Isaac. Or it might stay Julius

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Speaker 1: Caesar reigned in Rome. Well, that means in charge. And

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Speaker 1: so I ask her in modern language to give me

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Speaker 1: a list of some of these things that have come

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Speaker 1: to pass, and she says, one is man would be

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Speaker 1: able to really travel, go a lot of going and

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Speaker 1: coming traveling, and we're not going to be confined to

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Speaker 1: a donkey or camel or you know, we have cars

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Speaker 1: and planes. That's good, and it would be a common

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Speaker 1: accepted thing if people are gay, that it wouldn't be unusual.

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Speaker 1: And there would be an uptake in earthquakes. I google that, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and to the last twenty years, I uptick in earthquakes

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Speaker 1: and also famine. Got that and it said mankind will

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Speaker 1: be lovers of self like Cered. But we've gone through

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Speaker 1: these cycles before, so I mean, I think this is

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Speaker 1: and here's the problem is that people are always trying

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Speaker 1: to comes down to this. We like to think that

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Speaker 1: we're important, and we like to think that whatever the

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Speaker 1: most important thing is in history is going to happen

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Speaker 1: in our lifetimes. But it doesn't have to. And time

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Speaker 1: and time again it doesn't. And so you have all

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Speaker 1: of these periods of religious history like the Great Awakening, right,

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Speaker 1: or all of the apocalyptic literature that came out from

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Speaker 1: at the end of World War Two, And if there

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Speaker 1: ever was a guy who was Antichrist, it would be

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Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler, right. I mean, we would just look at

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Speaker 1: that to say, oh my god, now that But no,

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Speaker 1: it still comes down to we don't know and we

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Speaker 1: aren't too obsessed about it, and the people that claim

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Speaker 1: to know are full of it, and they're going to

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Speaker 1: die wrong, period, full stop. They're going to die wrong.

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Speaker 1: And I hate to be the one to say that,

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Speaker 1: but it's also really easy to say that because it's

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Speaker 1: always been the case. Remember the whole thing about the

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Speaker 1: G seven that you know that when the G seven

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Speaker 1: forms that were going to fulfill a prophecy and then

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Speaker 1: whatever country dropped out at the time, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: what it was, like Italy or whatever, and they dried

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Speaker 1: and there was a G six again, and they're like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: okay wait, and now it's the G eight. Can't quite

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Speaker 1: seem to get that one to work. So no, I

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Speaker 1: mean the idea that you speak of with the earthquakes

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Speaker 1: and everything, and that's called the quickening, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think that it stands up to scrutiny. An uptick is

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Speaker 1: not the same as what's been described in the Bible.

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