1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of I Heart Radio. Well Zen, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Oh hey, what's up, Elizabeth? You know it's ridiculous, Oh girl, 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: do I Okay, Sir Hugh Beaver. So, Sir Beaver, he 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: was the managing director for Guinness Brewery. Okay, now this dude, 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Sir Beaver, he noted down at the pub, there's always 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: these arguments, and they often came down to something that 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: was an easily verifiable fact. And he thought this was 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. So he asked his employer to help him 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: compile all of the facts he could find into a 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: book to end bar fights. He wanted to bring peace 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: to the pub. That book was eventually called the Guinness 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Book of World Records. Yeah right, so, and now it's 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: basically become like this compendium of stupid human tricks. But 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: originally it was supposed to bring peace to the pub. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Did it for a while? I don't know. I don't say, Well, 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: it just issued challenges probably. Yeah, that is ridiculous, ridiculous. 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: You know what else is ridiculous? Taking over an abandoned 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: sea fort and making it your own country. Can I 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: get a how to on this? Ridiculously awesome? Yeah, this 20 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, 21 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: heists and cons. It's always murder free and ridiculous. Today, 22 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you about an absolutely outrageous caper. Comes 23 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: to us from a listener. Dustin Pyle recommended this one. 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about stealing in Ireland and we're 25 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: going to talk about a rogue invented nation. Like all 26 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: of this so far, we're talking international entry and it 27 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: all begins with pirate radio. How am I not involved 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: in this story? Well, Zar and I know you like 29 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: pirates and radio, and I know you like radio. What 30 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: do you think about pirate radio? Now you already know this, 31 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna explain it to you again. I'm gonna 32 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Woman's Plane. In a way, it's like at last um legs. 33 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: Pirate radio stations are those that operate without a broadcast license. 34 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: You know that right, Well, now you do. Without a license, 35 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: stations have to camp out on unused frequencies and that's 36 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: called wave piracy. So in the UK, the piracy part 37 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: of the term was also a nod to the fact 38 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: that up until the seventies, a lot of these people 39 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: operated stations from ships at sea. Marine platforms that sort 40 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: of thing. So they're on these marine platforms. What do 41 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: I mean by that, Well, let me tell you disused 42 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: naval forts. That's the thing. Disused naval forts the sea. Yeah, 43 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: because sub platforms. Okay, not really. During World War Two 44 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: the English built these things called monsel forts and they 45 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: were named after Guy or G Monsel move m A 46 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: U N S E l L. So they build these 47 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: things called monsel forts. They're in like the North Sea. 48 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: When I say like they're in the North Sea, I 49 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: didn't need that qualifier. And there were ways to defend 50 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the Thames Estuary from Nazi attacks. Okay, so you know 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: you don't want them coming up and so wait, you're 52 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: going to get into the Thames from the North Sea. Yeah, 53 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: the southern part of it. They could just like go 54 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: up the Thames and crawl up the skirt of England 55 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: quite how I pictured it. But it's very effective. Thank you, 56 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: good good metaphors. I'm just I like to paint visual 57 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: pictures and you did girl. Um So a lot of 58 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: these monsel forts. They look a lot like the at 59 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: ats in Star Wars. Oh, the alterrained armored transports. Yeah, 60 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: like the big mechanical robot dinosaurs. So here in Oakland, 61 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: we absolutely love to say that the container cranes at 62 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: the Port of Oakland, which are rad looking, were the 63 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: inspiration for the at at walkers. Please don't tell me 64 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: that's not true. People have been saying this for years. 65 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: But one of my favorite journalists, Peter Hartlob at the 66 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle, he was able to ask George Lucas 67 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: himself in two thousand and eight, I'm not listening, and 68 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: it turns out the Oakland cranes had nothing to do. 69 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that true. That can't be true. He 70 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: has said that like Dagoba is named after, but Dego Bay, 71 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: he took those cranes, he said, at least as far 72 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: as I was aware. He has said that the cranes 73 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: were an inspiration because he has no respect for Oakland. No, 74 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling and but you know what, that's why we're 75 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: this amazing underdog city. You know, people who know no 76 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: to the town. So uh. He said that the ad 77 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: ads were inspired by this melange of structures and contraptionslang 78 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: I put that in there. That's not a quote. Didn't 79 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: seem like very Lucas. It's an amalgamation. So, um, I 80 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: think that monsel forts uh influenced the ad at design. 81 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: That's where I'm going with this. Then when I looked 82 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: at a picture there, So there are two types of 83 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: these forts. There are naval forts and army forts, and 84 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: they're both on water. But the army forts are the 85 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: ones that look like ad ats. Not the naval ones. 86 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: Just want to put that out there. Um, they're just 87 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: like the army ones are like big boxes on stilt legs. 88 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Are these metal cement what do we talk the metal 89 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: a combination? Do they look like it's more like say 90 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: an oil refinery out on the water. They look more 91 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: like you know, cement like James Bond sub base. The 92 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: naval forts look like a combination between oil refineries and 93 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Bond Villain base. And the army forts look like ad Atskay, 94 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: thank you there you go. Um the at at once. 95 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: The army ones they kind of look like they're like 96 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: loping off through the waves in the distance when you 97 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: see pictures. The naval ones are substantial. They are biggins. 98 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: So they have these huge, massive towers that lift up 99 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: out of the water and um, they have this like 100 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: cement pontoon at the bottom that gets sunk down and 101 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: holds it to the floor. Um. Yeah, and like the 102 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: structure isn't too dissimilar in shape from the above deck 103 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: on a naval destroyer, like the top part of it 104 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: that goes on top of the towers. Um, they resemble, 105 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: like we said, oil platforms. Those are also found in 106 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: the North Sea, but further up. So I'm going to 107 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: post a picture of these just so everyone can get 108 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: a good sense. But there were four monsel naval forts 109 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: that were built. Rough Sands was the name of one. 110 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Sunkhead Okay, tongue Sands and knocked John what they's names? 111 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Just drew them out of a hat. I mean, I 112 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: suppose that head is like a sunkhead is like the 113 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: head of the mouth of but Knock that's the one 114 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: that jumps out, So I mean the other ones involves sand. 115 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: So sure. So the forts, as I'm giving this docent tour, 116 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: they better hire me for this sort of stuff. The 117 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: forts have a concrete concrete pontoon base. The towers are 118 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: six tall in diameter, I said Biggins. Each tower has 119 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: seven floors, so we've established that, and that's where there's 120 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: crew quarters, storage, operational type things, generators, fresh water tanks. Um, 121 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: there's a landing jetty called Dolphin, and then there's like 122 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: a to pick up supplies. Um. The big deck, like 123 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: I said, kind of sits on top of the towers. 124 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: Total area including the hollow towers square feet dun. Yeah, 125 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: And the towers were initially built to house two three 126 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: hundred people. That's cramming them in there though. I guess 127 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: like submarine style grown humans into this silber too. Like 128 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: the four and I want to tell you about is 129 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: rough Sands. We'll get to knock John in a bit. 130 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: But rough Sands, that's the one we're focusing on today. Um. 131 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: The that one was built to protect the town of 132 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: ipswitch switch clams and flipping those ip switches. And it 133 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: sits about six nautical miles from the coast. To answer 134 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: your previous question, you can put your hand down now, yes, 135 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: thank you. My arm was hurting. So rough Sands six 136 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: nautical miles from the coast. Write that down, everybody in 137 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: the world. Um, the fort saw like legit action in 138 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: World War Two. Well, I think they all kind of 139 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: got together, they banded together and brought down a boat. 140 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: But I can only find that they took down one 141 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: German boat, but their mere presence was threatening. They were 142 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: like scarecrows of the sea exactly. So it gets abandoned 143 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: in But it was nineteen sixty six that became a 144 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: banner year for rough Sands Szaren. I want you to 145 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: close your eyes and I want you to picture it. 146 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve nineteen sixty six. Two men, a father and 147 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: son sit in a dinghy in the North Sea, just 148 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: off the southeast coast of England. The sea is unusually calm. 149 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: One of them hums a song while the other pilots 150 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: the craft toward a large structure ahead rough Sands Naval Base. 151 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: They reached the base, tie off on the tower and 152 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: climb the ladder towards the entry points. They're already people 153 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: on the base. Now. Those are the good folks at 154 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: Radio Caroline. So Radio Caroline is a legit station now, 155 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: but it began life as a pirate radio frequency, and 156 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: they were really groundbreaking because they played continuous pop songs 157 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: all day and the legal stations were like the state 158 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: run BBC ones, and so they had to play like 159 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: a mix of stuff to appeal to all of the public, 160 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: playing like folk tunes and opera and people like look 161 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: we're just going to play the gardening shows and talk. 162 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: And then they would also play like kind of lame 163 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: rip offs of current music played on like the banjo 164 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: Um exactly. Radio Caroline wanted to get loose man and 165 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: they wanted to country that stuffy old programming. They're like, 166 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: loosen your ties, guys. Um. They operate did off of 167 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: ships just off the coast of England, and they could 168 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: reach almost all of the UK and parts of the 169 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: Irish Republic. So they're and they were hit makers. They 170 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: would play things that got so much you know, uh, 171 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: so many listeners, so much listeners that you know, people 172 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: would you know, go out and buy the records. And 173 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: so they hit the charge because so now we're the 174 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: record companies and the artists trying to appeal to them 175 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: and they figured this out. Yeah, and and the thing 176 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: is they start getting all this competition. So there are 177 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: American interests they're funding like stations off the coast, and 178 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: because they know they can drive sales, so more and 179 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: more of these stations are popping up and they're shaping 180 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: the culture and the popular music landscape, and they're also 181 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: fighting over the nautical landscape. So the stations realized that 182 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: like they they could have fixed bases in the actual 183 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: abandoned bases, and so they started squatting them to take 184 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: them over. But don't forget there aren't men any of them, 185 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: for for naval ones, for army ones. Now this means 186 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: that there's a number of skirmishes and armed hijackings of 187 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: reports between like rival pirates. Yes, there's like literal piracy 188 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: going on. They had like actual pirate vanguards landing and 189 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: then doing getting into like fights and quashes. They have swords, 190 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: they have weaponry, have real weaponry, and how are they 191 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: doing Like gunfights are like more like your clubs and sticks. 192 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit of everything they did. 193 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: So this is going to bring us back to Christmas 194 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: Eve nineteen six. Patty Roy Bates and his teenage son Michael, 195 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: they're the ones in the dinghy. Now, they had a 196 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: pirate station that they called Radio Essex. Yeah, they said 197 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: that they were the first twenty four hour pirate radio 198 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: station and they had already set up on the abandoned 199 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: knock John Fort. So they're out at knock John. The 200 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: problem was that knocked John is within three nautical miles 201 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: of the coast. That means that it's in British territorial waters. 202 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: Now remember how far did you write this down? How 203 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: far away is rough Sands? So far as four nautics 204 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: six six? My first guest notes six nautical miles. So 205 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: that meant that that was in international waters, uh, Knocked 206 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: John British territorial waters. And that meant that the UK 207 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: could shut it down. Um, and they have the authority 208 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: to do it. So the British government has no authority 209 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: over rough Sands. Roy and Michael, they decided to set 210 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: up shop there, so they're going to move their operations 211 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: from Knocked John to rough Sands. This just this is 212 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: like gibberish. That's okay. Um. The only problem is that 213 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Radio Caroline the previously mentioned they were already set up there. 214 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: They had they were using rough Sands as an outpost, 215 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: so they weren't broadcasting from there. People. It was like 216 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: a way station where they could have supplies dropped off 217 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: and then their boats could come and packs one more. Yeah, 218 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: just like a supply station. Roy and Michael, they get there, 219 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: they scale the metal ladder rungs make it to the platform, 220 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: same method by the way that they took knock John. 221 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Because they had to kick someone out of knock John 222 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: to take it. They take it by force. One of 223 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: the Radio Caroline dudes has a rifle for protection and uh, 224 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, because the pirate radio wars are heating up, 225 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: but there are no match for Roy and Michael. Now 226 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: it's not clear if Roy and Michael were armed as well, 227 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: but the two of them were able to corral the 228 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: Caroline folks and escort them back to dry Land. Are 229 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: these like hippies the kind of think that maybe they're. Yeah, 230 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: they're like in earth shoes, shaggy hair and some long hairs. 231 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: They lose their footing on the deck because their foot 232 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: comes out of the bergen stocks. Uh you know, no 233 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: up on birkenstocks. But no, you're wearing some right now 234 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: on my hands. Um. And so they get him to 235 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: dry Land. Roy eventually brings his radio transmitter equipment to 236 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: rough Sands, but he winds up never broadcasting from there, 237 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: so he takes it by force. And then it's like, 238 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but also they're broadcasting twenty four hours. 239 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Do they have like staff? Are they running this themselves? 240 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: It's a family operation. Now, Radio Caroline, They're not going 241 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: to go quietly. They tried a bunch of times to 242 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: reclaim the fort no avail. Others tried other you know, 243 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: like invaders tried to come up the ladder, like fought 244 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: him off, Hippie Sam Bellamy trying to the Bates clan 245 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: just they were too hard boiled, and they had firearms. 246 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: They had Molotov cocktails that they would use against They 247 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: had homemade projectiles, like potato guns. That's exactly what I 248 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: was thinking when I've read homemade projectiles, and like I 249 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: started looking out the window wistfully and imagining potato guns. 250 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: I knew someone who they built a potato gun and 251 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: fired it out of their apartment window at a punk house, 252 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: and they used to fire it at um garbage trucks 253 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: because they were They said, they were slow moving and 254 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: loosely affiliated with the government, and that's why they targeted them. 255 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: So they got firearms, they got Molotov cocktails, they got 256 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: homemade projectiles. Baby, they got a dream. And when we 257 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: come back from this intrusive commercial break, I'm going to 258 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: tell you about this dream and all of its ridiculous glory. 259 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: He is Aaron, Oh hey, I'm still here. Yeah. Well, 260 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: when we left off, Patti Roy Bates and his son Michael. Yeah, 261 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking notes, and they had hijacked a decommissioned naval 262 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: outpost in the North Sea, ostensibly to use for a 263 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: pirate radio station. Basse, let's come back to that in 264 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: a bit um. First, I want to tell you about 265 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: an investment opportunity. I want to tell you about Roy Bates, 266 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: a real character. You know, I love characters, So Patty 267 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: Roy Bates born August He was one of only He 268 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: was the only one of five siblings to survive past 269 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: early childhood, rough rough stuff. At fifteen, he leaves home 270 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: to go fight for the International Brigade in the Spanish 271 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Civil War. Good yep. He comes back and that was 272 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: really crazy fighting. Yeah, exactly, a lot of casualties. So 273 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: he comes back and he winds up fighting in World 274 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: War Two as well, goes to Italy, North Africa, Iraq, Syria. 275 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: He does the whole tour. He was a prisoner of 276 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: war twice. The second time his plane crashed on the 277 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Isle of Rhodes and he was taken prisoner by Greek fascists, 278 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: but he was rescued from a firing squad by a 279 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: quote passing German officer. How does that work. That no 280 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: sense to me, Like why I would imagine that the 281 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: passing German officer would see a British soldier and be 282 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: like line them up. I don't know, So maybe the 283 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: guy had a change her heart anyway, cute it could 284 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: be he was smoking hot the soldiers like, oh save 285 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: that one from pretty, You're so pretty. He was wounded 286 00:18:55,320 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: multiple times and he survived malaria, sand fly feeve, and frostbite. Okay, 287 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: I'm starting to see why he was winning the Pirate Wars, 288 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: like pirate radio. Like that's nothing, is it? Hard boiled? 289 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: So after the war he goes and um starts importing 290 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: meat from the Irish Republic into Northern Ireland, just general meats. Um. 291 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: And he also imports rubber from Malaysia. That was he 292 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: doing this, like import export? I think there are huge 293 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: quotation marks around in port exports. He also ran a 294 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: chain of butcher shops, which we all know sash business. Yeah, 295 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: so in the early sixties, Um he also fished for 296 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: decorative seaweed. I don't even know what that is that 297 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: he sold to Flori's in the US and Canada, seaweed 298 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: that we love over here. You know. The other day 299 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: I was going to get you. Hey, it's Tuesday, here's 300 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: some decorative seaweed, do cheer up your day. Yeah, I 301 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: couldn't find any because it was sold out. That's how 302 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: much we love it was the other day I was like, 303 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: I was rollerblading in the park and I say that 304 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: because I don't rollerblade, but I someone who does, and 305 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: he is he's really close by right now. And uh, 306 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: I saw you sitting at apart bench making a wreath 307 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: out of decorative seaweed, and you said you were just 308 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: going to hang it on a stranger's door to brighten 309 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: their day. Yeah, and that's what I do every a 310 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: couple of two weeks. Is that why you're covered in glitter? 311 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: Because you're putting glitter on the on the wreath. When 312 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: I saw you, glitter is kind of like you know, 313 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: my it's my markets. How you know it's from me? 314 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 1: You're like you shake something, a bunch of glitter comes out. 315 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: You're like zeren dust um so decorative seaweed, the stuff 316 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: you have may have come from old stock. That are 317 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: you going to get into the decorative scene, let alone 318 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: like me, I can see you're like into the decorative business. 319 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: But like decorative seaweed. Like, fine, you got some like 320 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: a driftwood, you got some nice stones, You're you're gathering stuff. 321 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: The problem focusing on decorative seaweed. The problem I have 322 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: is that when I think of seaweed, I think of 323 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: two things. I think of sushi, the nori on the side, right, 324 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: and then I think of California kelp bed. Yeah, those 325 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: like you can whip your little brother so and they 326 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: smell terrible. So I don't know what's going on. Seaweed 327 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: isn't really a it's a pretty pungent thing. Yeah, you 328 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: can eat it though that stuff. Yeah, if you just 329 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: really like salty, really salt deficient. So we've gotten off 330 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: track here, but you have to admit that harvesting decorative 331 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: seaweed is a pretty amazing gig if you want to 332 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: just like be a character. And I think I'm going 333 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: to add that to my list of things I tell 334 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: people I do. I also trade in whale teeth. And 335 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: so Patty Roy bates Roy as he went by um 336 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: in the early sixties, he starts radio essex. Naturally, it's 337 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: a natural evolution, and that brings us up to rough Sands. 338 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: So I told you he took control of the fort, 339 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: he set up his broadcast equipment and then was like, 340 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: but that's because, according to the New York Times and 341 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: I quote, the Marine Broadcasting Act of nineteen sixty seven 342 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: made it illegal for pirate radios, even those outside territorial waters, 343 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: to employ British citizens. Mr Bates promptly declared independence, probably 344 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: hoping to circumvent the strictures of the act. He's like, 345 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm in international waters, too bad. So sad you can't 346 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: get me. Yeah, So he chokes whatever your citizens with 347 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: doing is it bounces off me and sticks to you. 348 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: That sounds like a you problem this whole we don't 349 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: want citizens. So Roy jokes with his wife Joan that 350 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: now that he was unable to really broadcast there, she 351 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: basically has her own private island. Yeah. And so they 352 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: got to drinks with some pals and they're telling their 353 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: friends all about rough Sands. He's like, look, I took 354 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: over this fort. They're like, oh, Roy, you not again. 355 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: He's just like wearing a seaweed suit like a Gillie 356 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: so um he you know, he says, look I took 357 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: it over, And Joan was like, you know what, it's 358 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: a shame. It doesn't have a few palm trees, a 359 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: bit of sunshine in its own flag. That's a quote, yea. 360 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: But shimmy shimmying her shoulders. It's a shame. Um. So 361 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: one of the friends is like, um, hello, make it 362 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: an actual island. Let's make it happen. People, let's do this, 363 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: and then they all high fived and then skipped out 364 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: into the street. I have a sewing machine. Roy goes 365 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: right to his lawyers. Of course a man has lawyers. 366 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Uh so for Jones's birthday before that, that's what I'm saying, 367 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: they're on retainer. He's like, all right, look, no, it's 368 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: not me this time, I have an island. They're like, 369 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: oh god, and then some of them have like dollar 370 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: signs in their eyes. Um. Jones's birthday September two, nineteen seven, 371 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: Roy gives her a pretty stunning gift. He declared the 372 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: principality of Sea Land and was like, here's your island. 373 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: We are a country now. Baby. He comes up with 374 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: the motto he mary libertass Latin from Latin four from 375 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the sea freedom. Oh yeah, out of the sea freedom. Yeah. 376 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: He creates a flag. It's red, white and black. There's 377 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: a big triangle red at the top left corner. I 378 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: know there's a term for all the different parts of 379 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: the flag, but as you know, I play fast and loose. 380 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: There's a diagonal stripe of white across the center, and 381 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: then the rest is a black triangle on the lower right. 382 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: He made up a cool crest. What's on the crest 383 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: stuff stuff and things. It's like there's like a tower 384 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: and animals. I don't remember Latin. I looked at it, 385 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: then I just forgot about it. He had money, a 386 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: sea land dollar, which is equal to one U. S 387 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: dollar Sea bucks. He gives his wife a title, Princess Joan. 388 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: Is that make him the prince? Yeah, he's Prince roy Price. 389 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: And then they pack up their kids, Prince Michael and 390 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Princess Penelope, and they moved to seland like this long 391 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: suffering family, Like, load up the Royal family, We're going 392 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: to seld got a new bug in his bonnet. So 393 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: n seven, the UK military decides to destroy the remaining towers, 394 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: which we're sitting in international waters, and allegedly a crew 395 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: on a Royal Navy tug boat called out your next 396 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: to the Royal family while they were there, and may 397 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: have sixty eight uh Royal Navy boat, a real Royal 398 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Navy boat came within fifty ft of sea land and 399 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: apparently there are claims that they yelled obscenities at the 400 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: kids and that they made what's who to thunk it 401 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: and then they made obscene gestures at sixteen year old 402 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: Princess Penelope. Yeah, so what is Prince Michael he sees this, 403 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 1: He's like, not on my watch, and he fires warning 404 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: shots at the vessel. Yes, and then he declares. There's 405 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: also another version of the story where they say that 406 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: workers were servicing in nearby Bowie and that Michaels fired 407 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: warning shots to quote, remind these workers of Ceilance territorial sovereignty. 408 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: I am a sovereign citizen. Am I being detained? So 409 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: roy and Michael their UK citizens? They yeah, they're subjects 410 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: of the crown. They did later become citizens of Celand, 411 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: but they never renounced their British citizenship. And in general 412 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: they're concerned with, you know, the well being of the UK. 413 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 1: They're there all the time, um firing a weapon. Have 414 00:26:54,200 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: free healthcare like a you know, a needle and thread. 415 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: If Michael isn't the one who shot you, um, you 416 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: can't fire a weapon at the UK Royal Navy. It's illegal. 417 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: So they too, Prince Roy and Prince Michael. They get 418 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: called into British court under the Firearms Act. The judge 419 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: decided that the court did not have jurisdiction and sent 420 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Roy and Michael, Princes Roy and Michael on their way. 421 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: They're released. Now Seland considers that its first quote de 422 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: facto recognition. Recognition. So they're saying, well, since you know, 423 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: the court said they didn't have jurisdiction, they're saying, we're 424 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: a real place. And that is the year that Seland 425 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: begins issuing its own official passports. Now, in the late sixties, 426 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: they were causing the Royal Navy a lot of headaches 427 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: because Cuba's on everyone's mind. The Brits are afraid they're 428 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: going to have the same kind of situation happening um 429 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: naval officers. They come up with. Brits are worried that 430 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union is going to give nuclear weapons to 431 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: getting a little funky over there. They're gonna go communists. Yeah, 432 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: so you know what they're they plan, They like, you 433 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: know what, let's just bomb them. You Yeah, they come 434 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 1: up with this plan. But then they decide against it. 435 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: Probably gonna lame idea. I mean, they don't even have 436 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: a radio station. Um so by the early seventies there 437 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: are fifty people living on sea land. Was Michael getting busy? No, 438 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: it's a young lad. Um, it's extended family. He was 439 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: having children. That's what I thought, you'd pervert. He's just 440 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: populate god. So yeah, they're just recruiting in a busy fashion. 441 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: Extended family, friends, random workers and that kind of stuff. 442 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Enter alexanderin Buck. That's a serious name. Yeah, Alexander back. 443 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: He was a dime and dealer and general businessman. In 444 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: quotation marks you deal diamonds and you're a general businessman. 445 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: That just says it all right there, it's delicious. He 446 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: approaches Roy with an idea. I bet it was a 447 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: great idea. He said, Hey, baby, just want to come 448 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: down by my side. Hey, sugar, let's expand and develop. 449 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: What does he mean by that? I want to He 450 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: envisioned like Olas, like utopia. And I say that because 451 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: I am sure that he accounted for a neglected child 452 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: in a basement somewhere. If you don't know what I'm 453 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: talking about, read the Ursula La Gwin story. The ones 454 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: who walked away from Omelas and then ruminate on who 455 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: is our society's child in the basement. That's just a 456 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: little fun. Anyway, Alex saw a bustling island nation had 457 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: a vision profits. Yeah, he's a forward thinker. Um, he 458 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: want to casino step. I mean, hello, that's the first 459 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 1: planet that flag. He wanted a public commons with like 460 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: foliage so plant stuff. There are these places where people 461 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: can walk and things are green. What I don't know. 462 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: It's a concept. It's the comments. It's an area that 463 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: you share. You could park your rump on the bench park. 464 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: He wanted a duty free shop because I guess he 465 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: wanted booze perfect booze perfumean watches. Um. He wanted infrastructure. 466 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: He wanted like a post office. He wanted a bank. 467 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: They settled down Ben Franklin. So he wanted lodging. He 468 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: wanted apartments like a boarding house, hotels, and he wanted dining. 469 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: He wanted entertainment. Okay, yeah, he also wanted an oil refinery. No, 470 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the platform is big, but it's that day. He's like 471 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: a kid. I don't know what the kids are doing 472 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: these days with their online and the games in the 473 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: in the video games. But isn't there one where they 474 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: build stuff in like an alternate Minecraft? Yeah, there it is. 475 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know he wanted to do Minecraft. I guess. Yeah, 476 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: that's where you build like virtual stuff. Yeah, there's like 477 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: roadblocks and stuff. I don't know. I'm like, look, it's 478 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: either solitary Tetris, that's where you're Atris. How's your Miss 479 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: pac Man score doing? Or it's you know, friends without 480 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: the art. So anyway, he wants all this stuff and 481 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: he's in his mind building it out, and there's just 482 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: no way this is possible. But you know what, Prince Roy, 483 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: he likes the kind of this guy's jib and so 484 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: he names Achenbach. He names him Foreign Minister of Sealand 485 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: because he's a foreigner, I guess. And then the two 486 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: got to work to drafting the young nation's constitution, a 487 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: huge so Akinbach he also wanted a lifetime appointment of 488 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: prime minister, but Roy was like, you know what, chill out, 489 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: cool out, dude, let's just get this set up first 490 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: before you're getting ahead of yourself. Settle down. Cromwell, oh god, 491 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: and so um, he becomes a citizen of Sealand Akinbach does, 492 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: and he tries to renounce his German citizenship, but it 493 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: doesn't work, like we won't let you go. Yeah, I 494 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: just suddenly had a flash, like, what if this is 495 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: pronounced sealand land and I've been saying sealand well, I 496 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: think it could be either one, right, it could be 497 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: seland or sea land. The emphasis he put the emphasis 498 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: on a different salabl it totally changes how it sounds. 499 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: I just I've only been reading about it, and it's 500 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: just suddenly damned on me. You can say, yeah, whatever, 501 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: my apologies if I'm not saying it right. That I 502 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: doesn't need a disclaimer on every episode of I Am 503 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 1: So sorry. I will not be pronouncing this correctly. Um 504 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: so Achenbach, he becomes a citizen of Celand Celand and 505 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: tries to renounce his German citizenship, but it doesn't work. 506 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: They're like, we've got you for life. The German court 507 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: rules that quote the platform was not part of the 508 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: Earth's surface, that it was lacking in community life, and 509 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: that its miniscule territory did not constitute a living space 510 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: that was viable over the long term. This is the 511 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: most German decision ever. First of all, it's not even 512 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: to the surface of the US. What are we doing here? 513 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: Like nope, big, nope. Next, So Achenbach he's displeased. He's 514 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: itching to get his plan in motion. There are rumors 515 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: that maybe his plans weren't really on the up and 516 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: up Diamond or maybe business. Maybe it's a different kind 517 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: of general businessman. He's the kind of businessman that you like. 518 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Um So he gets into an argument about money with 519 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: Prince Roy. Always the money. Achenbach dead set on his plan. 520 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: Didn't want anyone, even a prince, to get in this way. 521 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: I have a quick picture it for you, Saron August. 522 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: The royal couple, Prince Roy and Princess Joan. They're away 523 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: from seland Celand on a trip to the mainland mainland. 524 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: They're headed to Austria to meet up with Achenbach to 525 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: talk about the possible casinos. Prince Michael stayed home. He's 526 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: out on the deck, probably sunning himself. In the distance, 527 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: he hears the sound of a helicopter. He looks up 528 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: to see one approaching sealand Hm, no one's scheduled to arrive. 529 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: Who's coming to this small island nation. Is it a 530 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: foreign dignitary, a celebrity looking for the next exclusive vacation spot. 531 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: Is it Elton John piloting his own helicopter? Is it 532 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: Harrison Ford? Doesn't he know how to find a helicopter? 533 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Just a plane? Are doing a thing? He just like 534 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: he pushes his earring as like an activation and then 535 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 1: he gets a inspector gadget helicopter thing that coming out 536 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: of his hat? Is it a crack local news team 537 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: looking for a traffic accident or a chase? There's an 538 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: investigative news team. When we come back from this break, 539 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know who it is on the 540 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: way to seland Celand and why I'm gonna be over here, 541 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: pins and needles. Okay, So before the break, we were 542 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: with twenty five year old Prince Michael as he ran 543 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: around seland sealand I'm just gonna go seland from here on, 544 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm putting the flag in that what it feels right 545 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: to you? It all feels right, um, Actually nothing feels 546 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: right right now. He's running around alone, dressed like Tom 547 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: Cruise and risky business with only a broadcloth dress shirt, 548 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: tidy whitey's and athletic socks. As you like it, now 549 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: he armed. Also, you have a rule and the he does. Actually, 550 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: he's probably wearing like a heavy fisherman's sweater and like 551 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: durable action slacks, captain's hat, or like a little beanie 552 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, one of those cool Irish sweater. Everyone 553 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: just imagine what you what makes you happiest. I just 554 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: wonder everyone to be happy. So whatever he's wearing, he's 555 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: on the deck of sealand he hears the approaching copter. 556 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: He's not taking any chances. So as you were wondering, yes, 557 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: he grabs a rifle and he prepares for whomever is arriving. 558 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I know, Prince Michael, because you figure if it's like, 559 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: if it's a friendly then you can do like, oh 560 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: military salute, and if it's coming to a protected area, yeah, yeah, 561 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: it's thoughtful. So the copter hovers above, and three men 562 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: repelled down to burly Dutchman and a guy in a suit. 563 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: I was it was gonna be British. Say yes, now 564 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: again with the clothing. The man in the suit, I 565 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: don't know if he's actually wearing a suit or is 566 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: he dressed in like that tactical casual look like a 567 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: governor visiting a disaster site, going to be wearing one 568 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: of those sands about suits, a jumpsuit, who knows, uh, 569 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: he's got like, I don't know, polo shirt, windbreaker look 570 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: of overall general discomfort. So he introduces himself. Hello, I 571 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: am Garre, not Poots. Who in the h e double 572 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: hockey sticks? Is Garre not Pots? That's what I'm wondering 573 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: over here. Thank me, I'm glad I asked um. Garre 574 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: not Poots. He's a coin box lawyer. He gingerly approaches 575 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: Prince Michael and asked him to put down the weapon. 576 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: He also hands the Prince of telegram which states that 577 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,760 Speaker 1: they have permission from Roy himself to come to Seeland. 578 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: Is the telegram legit? Yeah, of course, not thinks it's forged. 579 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: They go inside and talk. Now Michael is a little suspicious. 580 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 1: He agrees to go inside and then they head into 581 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: one of the rooms you know in the platform. Michael, 582 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: being a polite member of the sealand aristocracy, he offers 583 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: the gentleman whiskey you know as this tradition on Land 584 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: it's the ceremonial whiskey. They thank him, they accept it. 585 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: The whiskey ceremony is a very serious thing. There are 586 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: so many steps. Not a lot of people know this, 587 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: so they're probably stoked that it's not Tea. Yeah, because 588 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: you know it's what's now they know they're not in 589 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: the UK anymore, you don't, Yeah, that's true. So um, 590 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 1: Michael heads over to this little bar in the room, 591 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: starts to pour the three men they tiptoe like little 592 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: cartoon kitty cats towards the door. They slip out, and 593 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: then they lock poor Prince Michael in the tower. How 594 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: do they lock him in from outside? Well, no, they're 595 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: like they're in the room with him. He turns around 596 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 1: to pour the booze. They sneak out of the room, 597 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 1: slammed the door, lock it. The door is usually locked 598 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: from the inside. Well, I don't know, okay, maybe that 599 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: was like a punishment room and they had a dead 600 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: bolt on the outside, maybe like blockaded the door, and 601 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: they probably like tied off the handle and like you know, 602 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: or stuck that there. Well, Michael's banging on the door fruitlessly, 603 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: um akinboch. He obviously knew that Roy wouldn't be there 604 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: when he sent that helicopter to Seland because he's supposed 605 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: to be meeting with them in Austria. Yeah. This is 606 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: a straight up pirate gank move. Yeah, and he stands 607 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: Prince Roy up for the meeting. He ghosts him, and 608 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: so Prince Roy starts to get worried that there's this setup. 609 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: Um Seeland didn't have a phone or a working ship 610 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: to shore radio. Yeah, So Prince Roy called fishing captains 611 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: in the area and he's like hey. They're like, oh, 612 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: what's up. He's like, I'm last year. I listen quick question. 613 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: Can you swing by and see if everything's cool at 614 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: Seland he's like, whatever, it's my island. Can you go 615 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: check on Prince Mikey and so um one of the 616 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: captains like, you know, I actually saw something. I saw 617 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: a helicopter hovering over and then landing. Roy loses it, 618 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: freaks out. So back at sealand Celand Um the three men, 619 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: they have Prince Michael locked in the room. He's in 620 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: the tower. He's trying to grow his hair out as 621 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: fast as he can to scale down for buzzle. He 622 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: was in there for four days and then they let 623 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: him go. They flagged down a passing fishing boat and 624 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: they just threw them on there like off you go. 625 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: There are fifty other people on this platform, right, No, 626 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: at this point I think it had kind of dwindled. Yeah, 627 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: but I think there maybe some people anyway. The boat 628 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: heads back to port in Holland, the fishing boat with 629 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: his royal cargo. Once in the Holland, Prince Michael meets 630 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: up with Prince Roy and the two of them hatch 631 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: a plan. Prince Roy is pals with a helicopter pilot. 632 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: Roy has pals with everybody. He's got a guy he 633 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: knows a guy. Um, but it's not just any helicopter pilot. 634 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: It's a guy who used to work on James Bond movies. Yeah, 635 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: so's he's a pro. They say, can you take us 636 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: back to Seland on a submarine? And he's got Roger 637 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: Moore in a cage in the back of the helicopter, 638 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: So they intend to take back. What's theirs do? With 639 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: the help of the pilot in the middle of the night, 640 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: they take the doors off of the helicopter for easy repelling, 641 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: and they make their way to Seland sealand under cover 642 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: of darkness. Yeah. When they arrived, the two princes wait, 643 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: is that where the spin Doctor's song comes from? We 644 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 1: may never know because I'm not going to even bother 645 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: to look up the lyrics. Um the two princes descend 646 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: one two princes, Um can I also let you know 647 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: that Prince Michael a total badass out for revenge. He's 648 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: toting a sawed off shotgun at this point anymore, it's amazing, 649 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: I got a room cleaner. The two guys slide down 650 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: the ropes and they land on top of one of 651 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: the buildings on the platform. All of auckin box German 652 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: goons like he's got a bunch of dudes there. Now 653 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: they're running around on deck like they're in like an 654 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: eighties militarized action movie. I'm kind of imagining Commando. That's 655 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: what I'm about. Schwartzenegger, which has one of the best 656 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: movie lines is I quoted all the time after seeing 657 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: it as a child, and there's it's great to have 658 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: a little kid saying this is the one you promise 659 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: you'd kill me last. No, it's cutting a little girl's 660 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: neck is like cutting warm butter. That you would repeat 661 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: as a child all the time. Oh yeah, I was 662 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 1: real popular. Um So Prince Michael. He jumps on the 663 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: from the roof of the deck. He jumps down to 664 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: the platform it's a pretty big jump. Now, it's the 665 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: kind of jump like if I did it, my ankles 666 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: would both shatter upon impact and blind the goons in 667 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: a shower of bone, flesh and blood. That's why I 668 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: would make like a really good and bad soldier of fortune. 669 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: Bad maneuvering skills, but good distractionary tactics and low pay. 670 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: I work for a load of no pay. Um. Prince 671 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: Michael jumps off the roof without his ankles exploding, but 672 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: the sawed off does accidentally discharge when he jumps. This 673 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: turns out to be a good thing, though, shotgun hand 674 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: on the pomp so no one gets shot, and it 675 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 1: scared the poop out of these goons, Like they hear 676 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 1: a shot like this kid lands and it's like um 677 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: they give up right away. They're like, oh we surrender. 678 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah wow. So losing to England in America earlier. Look, 679 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 1: that's sixty World Cup. Wham uh garn not Poots. I 680 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: like saying it like that, like a total jacket, Um 681 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: and Garron. Poots and his goons were held hostage by 682 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: the princes. The royal family soon releases the Henchman, but 683 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: they keep Poots and Poots see he's also a sealand 684 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: citizens Celands. He has charged in the Court of sealand 685 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: they have a judge. Yeah, they basically I don't know. 686 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: I think I think Prince Roy is the judge. They 687 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: basically have the same laws as the UK, but they 688 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 1: allow guns. How they've explained it, They've explained it that way. Yeah. 689 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: So they charged Poots with treason and he's detained at 690 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: sealand he's sentenced to life on the platform. They're like, 691 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: you have offended, you have offended us. You have to 692 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 1: live here forever. Now we're gonna nail your foot, just it. 693 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: At the fort. He has to life at the fort 694 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 1: here punishment. You have to stay here with us forever 695 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: until you know you've offended us. Now you have to 696 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: live here. I don't know why he wasn't exiled anyway. Um, 697 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: the German embassy asked the British for help to get 698 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: his release, and the Brits are, like Ceilands outside of 699 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: our jurisdiction international waters. So the Germans they sent they 700 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: send a diplomat from London to negotiate the release of 701 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: Garno Poots. Now, um, because of this diplomatic envoy, right 702 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: Ceiland considers that another de facto recognition by Germany. But 703 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: Germany's like, that's not what this means. This is an 704 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: essence a hostage negotiation. But okay, go off. So nope, 705 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: you recognized us. I saw in your eyes. Here's the 706 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: great part though, According to an article in The Atlantic, quote, 707 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: a Dutch foreign affairs officer offered a suggestion for solving 708 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,720 Speaker 1: the problem. Is there any chance of a British patrol 709 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: vessel passing by the fort and somehow knocking it into 710 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: the sea. You know, problem solved. It kind of reminds 711 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: me of when my dad he wanted to tear down 712 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: an old shed on his property, but the whole place 713 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: was within a historical district and he would need special permission. 714 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: He was uninterested in attaining obtaining special permission, so he 715 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: quote unquote accidentally drove his seventies Chevy suburban into the 716 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: shed and demolished it himself in like forty five seconds. 717 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: It was an accident. That's what the Dutch wanted the 718 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: Brits to do, just kind of. I mean, I respect 719 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: that line of thinking. I'm glad they didn't go through 720 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: with that, though, because I've grown very fond of Seland. 721 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can tell. Um. So in 722 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: Seland prison, Poots is cleaning the bathrooms. He's on coffee duty. 723 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,840 Speaker 1: He has to make the coffee. Um. He only spends 724 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: two months in prison there and he negotiates his own release. 725 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 1: He's a lawyer. Image. He was fine seventy thousand Deutsche marks, 726 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: which was around like thirty seven grand, and he's granted 727 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: a pardon just to buy out. He bought his way out. 728 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: When he's released, Prince Roy tells reporters we're friends now, 729 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 1: and post later gets hired by the family to represent 730 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,240 Speaker 1: them when they filed charges against some Dutch invaders. So 731 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: that is the power of restorative justice. Everybody. Um. Things 732 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: even out over time for the nation of Seland, but 733 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: there were still a little bumps in the road. In 734 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: the UK extended its territorial waters from three nautical miles 735 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 1: to twelve nautical miles, thereby putting Sealand within its limits. 736 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: What does Seland do in response? They you know, they 737 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: don't take anybody's gulf. They extended their own territorial waters 738 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 1: from three nautical miles to twelve nautical miles. I see you, 739 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: I raise you. Now there's six off sure, which means 740 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 1: that like they're so um. They also started issuing a 741 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: passport around this time. They issued around three passports. They 742 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: personally vetted every single one. Did anyone use them for travel? Well, 743 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: here's the thing. There were shady I think it was 744 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: like a novelty thing. They have the coolest website where 745 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: you can go and buy titles like you can become 746 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: a baron ernest um, and so they you know, I 747 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: suppose people had it just kind of to kick around with, 748 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: but there were shady characters selling knockoff sealand passports um. 749 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: When Gianni Versace's murderer, Andrew Kunanan, when he was on 750 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: the run, he broke into a house boat and took 751 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: his own life. So that's a fact, a historical fact. 752 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: The owner of the boat was a German Man who 753 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,319 Speaker 1: held a seland passport and allegedly had a car with 754 00:48:54,520 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: Celand diplomatic plates seland they contact So the FBI contacts 755 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: Celand and they're like, how is this all connected? And 756 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: they said, I have no idea what you're talking about. 757 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 1: Everything was forged. So that's when they start finding out 758 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,919 Speaker 1: there all these like fake sealand diplomatic materials out there. 759 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: There were Moroccan hash smugglers and Russian arms dealers who 760 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 1: had fake sealand passports. I see your pirate war and 761 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 1: I raised you in a Moroccan hash smuggle. There were 762 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: over four thousand phony passports sold at a thousand pounds 763 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: each to Hong Kong's citizens before Britain's seated control of 764 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: the territory to China in July. So Seland in ninety 765 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: seven stops issuing passports after this fraud is revealed, and 766 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: then the hold was made permanent after nine eleven. What 767 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: did nine eleven have to do? Well? After the towers fell, 768 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 1: a lot of things changed there. Yeah. So, um, the 769 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: they still get thousands of passport applications. They got thousands 770 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: after the UK voted yes on Brexit and Trump won 771 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: the presidency, they had like American Yeah. So it's just 772 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: like people are looking for a for a paradise um 773 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 1: in the early aughts, it was going to become a 774 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: server farm, but they didn't have the electrical or cooling 775 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 1: capacity like solar out there. Yeah. Yeah. In two thousand 776 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: and seven, they announced that they were looking for a 777 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,360 Speaker 1: buyer with an asking price of around seven million dollars. 778 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: Excuse me, I can buy like a couple of sports teams, 779 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: or I can buy Sea Land, take your choice. It 780 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: was reported that they were in talks with the website 781 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: Pirate bay Um, but the company was only able to 782 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: raise dollars, so our marketing budgets a little tight, like, look, 783 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: we can barter these people down. Do you take n 784 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: f T s oh hold on? So Wiki Leaks allegedly 785 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 1: reached out to Sea Land. They wanted asylum and a 786 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 1: passport for Assange. Julian Assange Ceeland declined, They're like, that's 787 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: some messy business and I don't want Pam Anderson over here, 788 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: so do your thing. It was rumored that Assange was 789 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,319 Speaker 1: in the process of moving the Wiki Leaks servers to 790 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 1: Seland didn't happen, um and then here's my end of 791 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: animal House montage for you. So Michael has been the 792 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: acting head of state since and Roy and Joan retired 793 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: to Spain in two thousand and six. Very UK, very 794 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 1: h if they retire with guns, because I would be 795 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: totally UK. But with guns, he's like a like a 796 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: nautical hard man. Um. It's only possible to visit Seland 797 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,600 Speaker 1: with an official invitation from Prince Michael. You can't just 798 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: show up. What happens if you do, Like say you're 799 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: on Green Piece, You're like, hey, our boats got a 800 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: problem like climbing. You're climbing up the ladder and he 801 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: just gives you a boot to the face and you've 802 00:51:55,200 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: phoned on splash. Um Roy passed away in twelve, the 803 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: age of ninety one, and in an interview in the eighties, 804 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: Roy told reporters quote, I might die young or I 805 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: might die old, but I will never die of boredom. 806 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: He's awesome. Joan died in so not too long after 807 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,720 Speaker 1: her husband. The Bates family now lives, goes to school 808 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: and works in Mainland England, England, England. However, there's always 809 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: at least one person on seland sealand at all times 810 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: usually a single caretaker or security guard. Now the job 811 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: has been handled for decades by a man named Michael Barrington, 812 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: who's an old family friend. He's a dual seland UK citizen. 813 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: His official title as Head of Homeland Security and as 814 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 1: of Michael also owned a cockle fishing business. Cockles like 815 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: cockle shells, which is really dangerous, isn't that where people 816 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 1: drown all the time in the shorts because like the 817 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: tide goes out. Oh, I love abalone, So Michael, we're 818 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: short shorts and goes cockle fishing. Um, and he exports 819 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: to Spain, so you know he's carrying on the family legacy. 820 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: As of August zero COVID cases in sealand visitors need 821 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: to show proof of a negative test before they can 822 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: be pulled aboard, so keep that in mind, um. And 823 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: of course, as you brought up, it was also recently 824 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: home to a virtual showing of a joint painting and 825 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: n f T exhibition put on by sebodies. Now to 826 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: close this out, the UK's Foreign Office has said that 827 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: Ceilan quote cannot constitute a separate independent state since it 828 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,440 Speaker 1: has none of the characteristics of a state, including a 829 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: land territory, a fixed population and the ability to conduct 830 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: international relations debates. Disagree, uh, they Michael Is told at 831 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: BBC Journalist, we have never asked for recognition and we've 832 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: never felt the need to ask for recognition. You don't 833 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: have to have recognition to be a state. You just 834 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 1: have to fulfill the criteria of the Montevideo Convention, which 835 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: is population, territory, government and the capacity to enter into 836 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: negotiation with other states. We can, and we have done 837 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: all these things. We've had the German ambassador visit us 838 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: at one point to discuss something that was the de 839 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 1: facto recognition. We've had communication with the President of France 840 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: many years ago, but we have never asked for recognition 841 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,359 Speaker 1: and we don't feel we need it. Definitive. Listen, I 842 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: agree with them. You're a state. If you say you're 843 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: a state exactly so, they're the state born of a 844 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: criminal takeover. Got to love it. What's your ridiculous takeaway? 845 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: Do not mask with Prince Roy? Yeahstroy is a legend, 846 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: as is Prince Michael. Prince Michael, but in my in 847 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: my mind, he's like kind of what they could chip 848 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: off the old blocks, follow your tradition, whereas it seems 849 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: like Prince Roy, it's just weird calling him prince, like 850 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: like why didn't he make himself king or something else? Humble, 851 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: humble thing I'm talking about. The man knows his place 852 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: in the world, he knows his station in life. He's like, 853 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: I am not a king, I'm but a lowly and 854 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: humble prince here to lead my people in my regal 855 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 1: family forward. But I did. I find that like anybody 856 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: wants to go. So I'm getting the boat. We're gonna 857 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,120 Speaker 1: go take over this again. It's a good character and 858 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: I love that they put the old fort to good use. 859 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: That's recycling and my takeaways at starting your own country 860 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: isn't easy, but it's super cool. I want one of 861 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: those castles that they have off the coast of England. 862 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: They're not like I guess, they're usually more like in 863 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: lakes and stuff, you know, like an island. And we'll 864 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: sell it as long as you'll you know, like pay 865 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 1: for the staff and get some tourism like the lake 866 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: islet industry. Yes, that one. I want to become a 867 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 1: baroness at sealand okay you are now a baroness. Than 868 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: you're welcome. That's it. You can find us online at 869 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime on both Twitter and Instagram. If you have 870 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 1: a tip for us about a ridiculous crime. If you 871 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 1: want to confess to a ridiculous crime, email us at 872 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,319 Speaker 1: ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com. Tune in next time. 873 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zarin Burnett, 874 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: produced and edited by his Royal Serene Highness Magistrate of 875 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,320 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime Island and All Dependencies, Dave Kuston. 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