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Speaker 2: I'd say there were five teams left. It feels like

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Speaker 2: four and a half because down double digits on the

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Speaker 2: way tire buying should be. Hello, Ephim. I always get

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Speaker 2: just a little bit sad right about this time of year.

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Speaker 2: We have three and a half football games left.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, man, that's it man. That a good year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a great year. We had a great

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Speaker 2: year and it's not done yet. What do you what

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Speaker 2: do you think You ever watch one of those events

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Speaker 2: where you kind of have a weird feeling in your gut,

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Speaker 2: like I don't like what's about to happen, and I

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Speaker 2: don't really have a rooting interest in this game tonight.

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Speaker 2: I like both of these teams. I want whoever's going

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Speaker 2: but I have this feeling in my gut and I

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Speaker 2: have all week because I like both of these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: I think they were the two best players in the

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Speaker 2: face what I think is probably an unfair narrative when

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Speaker 2: this game is over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're one correct about that, And as it stands now,

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Speaker 4: it looks like that narrative that's going to be unfair

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Speaker 4: shifting towards Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson again the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 4: and those are due to his own mistakes. Now, the

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Speaker 4: drop pass is okay, but what you can't do is

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Speaker 4: you can't turn the ball over in these games. Correct, correct,

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Speaker 4: and you personally can't make a bad play worse right,

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Speaker 4: snap hard to manage. You try to scramble through off

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Speaker 4: the timing. Okay, sometimes you just got to eat it.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you just got to eat it. What you can't

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Speaker 4: do is then give them the ball big return set

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Speaker 4: them up to score points. So now you're on the road,

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Speaker 4: inclement weather and you have, you know, Mount Everest to climb.

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Speaker 4: You only get so many possessions, and if you gift,

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Speaker 4: if you gift another team that's comparable to you, two

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Speaker 4: extra possessions per the game, most likely you're going to

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Speaker 4: lose unless you can get them back. And that's what

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Speaker 4: it balls down to in games like this, with this

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Speaker 4: level of talent, especially a quarterback, it matters about the possessions.

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Speaker 4: How many possessions can you get, how many can you take?

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Speaker 4: All of those things? And so it's one of those

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Speaker 4: situations where one team showed up ready to go. Now

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Speaker 4: we thought it was gonna be different. At opening drive,

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Speaker 3: Now you start thinking about all of that.

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Speaker 4: It's cold out there, you're on the bench, you got

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Speaker 3: Am I pushing? Do I push?

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Speaker 4: Like, all of these things happen that we don't as

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Speaker 2: And I would say that I don't want to lead

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Speaker 1: And he has a front row seat to watch it.

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Speaker 2: And there's not a damn thing he can do about

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills, they're in full control. They're

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Speaker 4: Take some of that pressure. You don't have to be spectacular.

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Speaker 2: Both teams are averaging about four and a half yards

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Speaker 2: I think this all sets up to be really, really challenging,

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Speaker 3: But I told you last week who everyone is This game,

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Speaker 2: In quite frankly, whatever answer anybody comes up with is like,

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Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. This is good question.

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Speaker 2: Probably could call Steve Hartman. He knows all about those

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Speaker 1: You know this that the other I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you after this game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But what if you had to vote last weekend?

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Speaker 2: What would you have done?

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Speaker 4: Just on the sheer nature of the historic passing rating

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have it. So yeah, yeah, and I you know, look,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Halfway through the year it was definitely Josh,

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Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot of an argument for Josh.

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Speaker 1: But if you watch football.

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Speaker 2: You can see, as we've said all year, to me,

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Speaker 1: If you take.

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Speaker 2: don't even feel that way about Patrick Mahomes. Obviously, they

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Speaker 2: all teams would be lesser if you lose your starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're watching both of them play each other right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, man, I have something to say and

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Speaker 4: I really want to get into these these games. So

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Speaker 2: And I don't know, you got something to say about

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Speaker 2: I wonder for having the same thought we might have

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Speaker 2: those damn Chiefs and those damn refs. Okay, so we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to all of it. Good evening, Let's watch

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Speaker 2: Okay, these arethe tie rack dot com studios. Baltimore got

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Speaker 2: just what the doctor ordered out of the gate in

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Speaker 2: that second half, Like we discussed a three and out,

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Speaker 2: a good punt return, and now at third and five conversion,

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Speaker 2: they're already into Buffalo territory.

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Speaker 1: So we'll keep an eye on that.

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Speaker 2: With that as the backdrop, mister Ephram Salam, what is

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Speaker 2: your weather related thought.

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Speaker 1: You're clearly champion at the bit to say it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Matter of fact, I do know. I'm not.

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Speaker 4: Entertained by these inclement weather games in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, good thought.

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Speaker 2: We were just having this chat around my living room earlier.

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Speaker 2: It kind of zaps the energy out of the game.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: As a fan, yes, yes, the dynamic play is gone.

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Speaker 4: As a fan, it now becomes pedestrian. And I get it.

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Speaker 4: The fans of the winning teams are like yes. But

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Speaker 4: as a fan visually, when you get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: especially the divisional round, you want all the bells and whistles.

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Speaker 4: You want to be able to turn it up. You

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Speaker 4: If that's outside in Detroit. We don't get that game.

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Speaker 1: That's not the same.

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Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, right, So don't we don't

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, But what on earth would be the

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Speaker 4: Oh well, if there's no fix to it, there is

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Speaker 4: no fix to it. Buffalo's has a new stadium going up,

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Speaker 4: it's still outside, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So this is just what it is.

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Speaker 4: And the crazy part is they're like, whoa, you know,

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Speaker 4: it to be ten degrees and snowing.

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Speaker 1: He's from California.

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Speaker 4: No, he liked to be inside so he can sling

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Speaker 3: And put up these numbers he's been putting up all year.

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Speaker 3: That's my take on it.

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Speaker 4: Weather or cold weather, games like this, they leave a

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just from the standpoint. And even though yes,

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. I played in these games.

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Speaker 3: Not fall over, and nobody wants to see that.

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Speaker 1: No, nobody wants to see them.

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Speaker 4: Imagine how good that one score Rams Philly game could

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Speaker 4: I've been Look, I've been in these games. I know

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Speaker 4: Whether I was at Denver we had snow flurries all

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Speaker 4: that's my take. I think there's especially when you get

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Speaker 3: Do we do?

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Speaker 4: We really want to do the fans just want to

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Speaker 4: that's what we do. They don't, they don't, they really do.

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Speaker 4: That's three hours and unbearable conditions, and I get it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is what we do, is it?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you can say all that you.

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Speaker 4: I know, I've been in Green Bay in January and

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Speaker 3: It's tough living.

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Speaker 1: It's dude, it's miserable.

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Speaker 2: And I say this, and you call me a South

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Speaker 2: You know we could do that. Don't tell me there

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Speaker 2: what I was thinking. It's an extension. It's not the

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Speaker 1: Of your thought.

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Speaker 2: You and I have talked all year about wide receivers,

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Speaker 2: and we've talked about how the market, if it hasn't already,

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Speaker 2: it should have burst. Because early earlier today, who won

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Speaker 2: the football game? Go ahead, give me the name. Who

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Speaker 1: His name was say Kwarnlee Barkley.

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Speaker 4: Say be mistaken for Charles Barkley, right, se Kwan Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, the Bills have what is now an eight point

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Speaker 3: Nobody want to see that nine Nobody wants to see that.

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Speaker 2: But here's my point. I hadn't even been thinking about this.

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Speaker 1: How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Puka Nakua, who I never see do this is having

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Speaker 1: Where's Baltimore's leading receiver?

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Speaker 2: He not even here? Xavier Worthy five catches forty four yards?

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Speaker 2: Are you awake? Nico Collins great player? Five for eighty

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Speaker 1: Why they were inside indoors.

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Speaker 2: So when we get to January and you've spent thirty

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Speaker 2: I ask again, what are you investing in? This is

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Speaker 2: the rubbers meeting the route it is and Kansas City

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Speaker 2: will host one of these teams next week.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia will host Washington.

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Speaker 2: It is likely to be very cold in both environments,

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Speaker 2: and right now, I make anyone who want to bet

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Speaker 3: Not that's a good bet, that's a good bet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not gonna have one. We're not gonna have one.

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Speaker 4: And it's easy to be like, well you know that. No, No,

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Speaker 4: nobody wants to see that. Why you think the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowls have played. They're not played outside of the door

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Speaker 4: let them be outside.

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Speaker 3: That's good idea, since that's all part of it.

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Speaker 1: Cover the field, put a canopy up, cover.

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Speaker 4: The field, let them experience all the elements they want.

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Speaker 4: But at least, I mean, we couldn't even see the field.

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Speaker 4: You couldn't even see the field, and it just took

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Speaker 4: could have been un believable as a fan at this level,

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Speaker 4: I want unbelievable. You've paid for the Sunday ticket, You've

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Speaker 4: oh did you see that?

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Speaker 3: Oh man?

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Speaker 4: Like for us, if it was just you and I

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Speaker 3: That's why thirty after every time we do this.

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Speaker 4: Show, every hour, we introduce the wow factor, and that

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Speaker 6: Thank you gentlemen, and hello. And I'll go a step

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Speaker 6: further on the weather, because do you recall a decade

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Speaker 6: and of course the owners voted for that, and not

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Speaker 6: watching people in what turned out to be forty nine degrees,

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Speaker 6: one of the coldest Super Bowls. The massive storm hit

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl game a decade ago. No thank you, by

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Speaker 6: next weekend, low thirties is the current forecast, and for Philadelphia,

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Speaker 6: next weekend, forty three degrees and cloudy is the current

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Speaker 6: forecast for Philly and Yes, the Eagles eliminated the Rams

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Speaker 6: twenty eight to twenty two in a divisional playoff today

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Speaker 6: as Saquon Barkley, who ran through and passed the Rams

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Speaker 6: But the Rams are out and we'll have an NFC

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Speaker 6: championship game on Fox TV of Washington at Philadelphia next Sunday,

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Speaker 6: Got to mention that the Rams today fumbled on back

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Speaker 6: Right now, it is the Bills twenty one to thirteen

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Speaker 6: moment of glory after another. Until last weekend, his playoff

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Speaker 6: Spurs today. Nuggets got another triple double from Nikola Jokic

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Speaker 6: two to one. Again, Buffalo at home is leading twenty

438
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Speaker 6: one to thirteen against the Ravens in the third with

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Speaker 6: a dusting of snow on the field.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, okay, Steve, I'm sorry, Wow, I've never

441
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Speaker 2: heard I've never heard the words Anthony Davis in available

442
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: in the same same No, that was out, thank you, No,

443
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: you're right, the wow factor he said something I've.

444
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: Never heard and missed three games this.

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Speaker 6: Year, and Lebron James is available after quote left foot

446
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 6: injury management.

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Speaker 1: Oh good, good, he's managed it. Wow speaking.

448
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Speaker 3: But we'll get back to the NFL. But speaking about

449
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Speaker 3: the NBA. So I went on Friday. I went to.

450
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Speaker 4: The Brooklyn Laker game, Brooklyn Nets Laker game.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the D'Angelo Russell ball.

452
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Speaker 4: You want to talk about the worst basketball I've ever

453
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Speaker 4: been in person to see.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 4: Literally, the whole arena was just dead. It was no

456
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Speaker 4: energy in it.

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Speaker 3: It was no and you.

458
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 4: I just watched bad shot after bad shot, after turnover

459
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Speaker 4: after turnover both ways. Then I was like, end of

460
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Speaker 4: the third quarter, I kindly picked myself up, Me and

461
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Speaker 4: my one of my closest friends. He's from Brooklyn, so

462
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Speaker 4: he loves the Brooklyn Nets. And we both looked at

463
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: each other and like, I can't sit here and be

464
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 4: a part of this anymore. Last Yeah, I couldn't. I

465
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: couldn't take it. Wow, I couldn't take it. I'd rather

466
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Speaker 4: be mad I'd rather be mad at home.

467
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: Did not end up being like a one point game

468
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Speaker 1: or something.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what happened to the Brooklyn Nets four

470
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 4: days ago? They got beat by one thousand points. Literally,

471
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 4: they lost by fifty nine points.

472
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Speaker 3: And here we are.

473
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Speaker 4: Just duking it out with the fourteen win team down

474
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Speaker 4: to the last possession. I'm not excited about the one

475
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Speaker 4: point win when you're playing against inferior talent. And I

476
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 4: just watched him middling up and down the court, throwing

477
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Speaker 4: the ball away, missing open shots, not being aggressive the

478
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 4: whole thing, and I just couldn't sit there and be

479
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 4: a part of it anymore.

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Speaker 3: Could do it?

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Speaker 2: Quite a statement, and well, listen, the cat is out

482
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: of the bag. Adam Silver has gone public with the

483
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: whole sort of like we need to do something narrative,

484
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 2: and he spoke openly on the herd yep saw it

485
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: about about potentially moving the three point line back. I

486
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: assume that means the corner three is now out of bounds.

487
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: I like, I don't know, like a human foot is

488
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: not going to fit in there anymore. If you move

489
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Speaker 2: it back, maybe there isn't going to be a corner

490
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 2: three anymore. Like that's a pretty significant that's a pretty

491
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Speaker 2: significant change idea, and I don't think it'll be that simple.

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Speaker 1: But to me, it's kind of like, I don't know,

493
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Speaker 1: I was liking it to this.

494
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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't trigger any but when a couple

495
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: starts talking about divorce, it means you should get divorced,

496
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: Like you can't, you can't talk about it and then

497
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: be like, nah, change my mind, We're good. Like once

498
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: you start saying it out loud, like we need to

499
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Speaker 2: change the game. It's just like what baseball did three

500
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: years ago. You're like, oh, you're admitting that this isn't

501
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: right and you need to do something, so they got

502
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Speaker 2: to do something.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it to me is also and I've

504
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Speaker 4: stated this, the rules of the game are there for

505
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Speaker 4: a reason. Right, case in point, the offensive infractions that

506
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: you can have carry double dribble traveling there so you

507
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Speaker 4: don't have an unfair advantage against the defense.

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Speaker 3: Right the defensive calls right.

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00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 4: Illegal defense can't hand check it's so you don't have

510
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 4: an unfair advantage against the offense. The problem with the

511
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: NBA today is most of the rules that are in

512
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Speaker 4: place for the sanctity of the game are not upheld

513
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: correct when last I checked, and not to get too

514
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Speaker 4: deep in the weeds. But last I checked, you are

515
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Speaker 4: only allowed two individual steps after the ball is no

516
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Speaker 4: longer being dribbled.

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Speaker 2: That is not correct. It four and a half, right, No,

518
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 2: I watched. I watched the NBA. It's four and a half.

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00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: And so a triple step back is impossible to guard

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Speaker 4: because it's traveling.

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Speaker 1: Because it's illegal.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and if you allow everyone who has legs who

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Speaker 4: plays in the NBA to do it, it disrupts the

524
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Speaker 4: flow and the sanctity of the game. Now guys are

525
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: shooting triple step back threes, opposed to creating space, legally,

526
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 4: getting downhill or any of those things. Carrying you cannot,

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Speaker 4: as far as I know, you cannot suspend the ball

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00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: or discontinue your dribble for more than a second. You

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Speaker 4: cannot place your palm on the bottom of the ball

530
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Speaker 4: and then continue your dribble. That is called carry. If

531
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Speaker 4: you watch any game, it's happening on every single possession.

532
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: It's hard to stay in front of somebody and guard

533
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Speaker 4: them when you can't touch them, When they can discontinue

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00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: their dribble, start it up again, and then take a

535
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: triple step back three to gain space. Tell me, how

536
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 4: what can you do? You want to know why people

537
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: aren't playing defense? Do you want to know why?

538
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Because you can't?

539
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: Because you can't. Yeah, that's why.

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00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 4: So if you really want to fix it, then start

541
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Speaker 4: policing it.

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00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: The real way. Start policing it. That's it.

543
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: Start start policing it. That would be a start.

544
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: The game will change because now the actual elements of

545
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: basketball that we all know and love will take shape.

546
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: Meaning you got to get from point A to point

547
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Speaker 4: B without six hundred discontinued dribbles.

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Speaker 3: Step back, hesy.

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00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: What yep? Yep.

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00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 4: You got to go from point A to point B

551
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Speaker 4: and you got to get there right now. That's all

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, Not that apps you know know anything.

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Speaker 2: Of course, not speaking of point A to point B.

554
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: Point A was somewhere around their own twenty yard line.

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00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: Point B was the end zone, and Derrick Henry and

556
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of Justice Hill just went and took

557
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: him there. We got ourselves a ballgain us.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. Those of you who are just rooting

559
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Speaker 1: for a good game.

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Speaker 2: You've had a very good third quarter because it went

561
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Speaker 2: from twenty one to ten to twenty one to nineteen.

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00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: The two point conversion is no good. But we got

563
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: a two point ball game the Bills are about to receive.

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00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: It is twenty one to nineteen. We will keep you

565
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Speaker 2: up to date on that here in these tire rack

566
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Speaker 2: dot com studios, and damn it, we're gonna talk about

567
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs and the refs.

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572
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Speaker 1: Okay, it's getting good. We got a fourth quarter. We

574
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Speaker 1: got a fourth quarter coming up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Bills are facing a third and short. They're

576
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Speaker 2: up by two. Hang with us in the tye right

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Speaker 2: dot com studios with me from salam Mark Willard. I

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Speaker 2: will ask you this real quick. Do you have an

579
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Speaker 2: opinion on who's got a better shot against Kansas City

580
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Speaker 2: out of these two next week?

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Speaker 3: No, I think both of these teams can be Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Like someone asked me, like, you know this week about

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs chances and I'm like, well, they're the Chiefs

585
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Speaker 2: and they're at home. And they're good, and they're experience,

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00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: they're all of those things. They absolutely could win. They

587
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Speaker 2: could win the whole thing. Again, I do not feel

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Speaker 2: like they're the best team in the AFC. I feel

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Speaker 2: like both of these teams are better.

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Speaker 4: And what we saw Houston do to them now at

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Speaker 4: a certain point, something has to give because you know,

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Speaker 4: these games are being taken away, the competitive edge in

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00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: these games being taken away with some of these calls

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00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 4: to extend these drives on these phantom calls. I mean,

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Speaker 4: even the retired official in the booth is like, ah, yeah, right,

596
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: right right. This is not coming from a fan base.

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Speaker 4: This is coming from a guy whose job it was.

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Speaker 2: What's actually happening here though, because this is not a conspiracy.

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00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: To help the chiefs, is it? What's actually going on?

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. They're reffed a different

601
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: way than everyone else, right, Patrick Mahomes has refed a

602
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 4: different way than Josh Allen, than Lamar Jackson, than any

603
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Speaker 4: other person. We saw it with Tom Brady the same way.

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00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: And so what happens is you're in these situations, you

605
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: galvanize your defense, you get a big stop, and then

606
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 4: it's roughing the passer because I tackled him right, no

607
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 4: force to the head, didn't land on him, and.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even all they did was run into him.

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Speaker 4: And so it's it's one of these situations where okay, well,

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00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: some's gotta give because something's not right. And when you're

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Speaker 4: on the road and you're in the playoffs and you're

612
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: galvanized and you're moving up and down the field with ease,

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Speaker 4: your defense comes out, plays lights out.

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Speaker 3: It's third and long.

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Speaker 4: You stop them, phantom flag, they continue, they go on

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Speaker 4: the score. Most people will stop them again. It doesn't

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00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: work like that. Uh huh, that's not how it goes.

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Speaker 4: You know how deflating it is for a team, a

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Speaker 4: defense to put everything into this stop someone and then no,

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Speaker 4: we're just kidding.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to recover from that.

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Speaker 1: It's de moralizing.

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Speaker 4: And then it happens multiple times in a game and

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Speaker 4: it's like, wait, wait a minute, what is happening.

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Speaker 1: Well, and I'll tell you this to me. In the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of that football game yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes told on himself. So one score game, he

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00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: told on himself. He told on himself, And so I

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Speaker 2: know we're all screaming, yelling at the refs for their

630
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes favoritism. But to me, he told on himself

631
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Speaker 2: and he showed America how to fix this because we've

632
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: already watched this in the NBA and you know whops

633
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: so well, you tell me what happens now, three point

634
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: shooter that kicks his leg out, what happens?

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00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: What happens? Yep, that's a foul on you.

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00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: What happens shooter who pump fakes and then drives his

637
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: lead shoulder into the landing area of the defender. What happens?

638
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 2: That is an offensive foul? And what happens if you

639
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: are caught flopping? You're fined. Patrick Mahomes ran out of

640
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: bounds and tripped over a blade of grass on purpose.

641
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: He waited until he had stepped already two feet out

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Speaker 2: of bounds, and then flew off of his feet into

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Speaker 2: the sideline area, completely untouched. Patrick, you are part of

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Speaker 2: the problem, and you can tell me all day long

645
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: that that's part of sports, which is getting the refs

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Speaker 2: to think something happened that didn't happen. But then the

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Speaker 2: double down is two plays later, sloking around in a

648
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Speaker 2: scrambled drill, finds a defender that he can slide under

649
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Speaker 2: and then.

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Speaker 1: Get a bogus fifteen yard penalty. Crazy.

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Speaker 2: No, No, this needs to be reviewable to where the

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Speaker 2: penalty is called on the offense and as soon as

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Speaker 2: you it's the only way to legislate take that crap

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Speaker 2: out of the game. The quarterbacks have to be stopped.

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Speaker 2: You cannot let them do this.

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Speaker 4: You're taking a whole aspect of of of the game away.

657
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Speaker 4: You're taking a whole aspect of the game away. You're

658
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: absolutely right. Defense, the most important defensive players are now

659
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Speaker 4: feeling like, oh, it's it's those those There's nothing we

660
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Speaker 4: can do. There's nothing we can do. You can't play

661
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: great defense anymore. You can't go on the road and

662
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 4: force a team to punt bye bye by putting pressure

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Speaker 4: on the on the the opposing team. They're ramifications and

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Speaker 4: things that are happening that are taking people and teams

665
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Speaker 4: completely out of games, and it's out of control. I

666
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Speaker 4: can't and I'm an offensive player, yep, yep, And I'm like, bro, that's.

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Speaker 2: Co Yeah, they got to do something. And it's not

668
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: get mad at the refs. It's changed the way that

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Speaker 2: the refs are are told to go out there and

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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 1: More on this coming up. Bill just got a field goal.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us.

673
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

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Speaker 1: Why you can't blame that one on Lamar. More on

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Speaker 1: that in a second.

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681
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: are the entire deal. The Ravens had buttoned it up.

682
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: They're playing much better in the second half. They're down five.

683
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: They drive the ball into Buffalo territory. Beautiful pass from

684
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: Lamar on the rollout to Mark Andrews over the middle,

685
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 2: and then as he makes a move, boom forgot something.

686
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 2: That's a fumble, and that is turnover number three and

687
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens and Lamar Jackson have about eight and a

688
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: half minutes left to figure this out.

689
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Speaker 4: That's tough, living man. It's hard to win games in general,

690
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: losing the playoff the turnover battle, but in the playoffs

691
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Speaker 4: on the road.

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Speaker 2: By three, Ephraim, it's three three to nothing on the

693
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 2: turnovers right now and they're only down by five points.

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Speaker 4: Man oh man, look as great as Mark Andrews is

695
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Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson. If you're not buttoned up ready to go,

696
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 4: and people say, well, mistakes happened all that, Well, why

697
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 4: isn't it happening for Buffalo. They have people punching at

698
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Speaker 4: the ball. They have people trying to strip the ball.

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Speaker 4: When von Miller picked up that fumble and back he

700
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Speaker 4: secured the ball, they were ripping at it. So it's

701
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Speaker 4: not a mistakes happened. No, no, no, no, no. Number one,

702
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: you can control certain things. You can't tip ball in

703
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 4: the air. Okay, what are you gonna do? Catching the ball, turning,

704
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: securing the ball, that's a you thing. Being tackled, securing

705
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 4: the ball being sacked, that's a you thing. The great teams,

706
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Speaker 4: the teams that are able to continue to go, those

707
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Speaker 4: things don't happen. Kansas City doesn't do it, Buffalo's not

708
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Speaker 4: doing it, The commanders didn't do it. Everybody's got a shot,

709
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: everybody's got an opportunity. If you're not locked in and

710
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Speaker 4: button up ready to go, things like this happen.

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Speaker 1: Who I just saw this pop up on the screen.

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00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: That is Mark Andrews first lost fumble since twenty nineteen, yep,

713
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Speaker 2: and only the second of his entire career.

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Speaker 3: And when did it happen?

715
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Speaker 1: Like literally the most inopportune time possible. Wow, wow see.

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Speaker 2: And that's the context that And I don't know the

717
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: way this football game is going to end, but the

718
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: context to me that I struggle with with the way

719
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: that we sort of process information and the quarterbacks rise

720
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Speaker 2: to the center of the conversation. And Lamar had a

721
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: rough first half and if they lose this football game,

722
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Speaker 2: that's what we'll walk away with, which is Lamar turned

723
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Speaker 2: it over twice and Lamar again fell short in the playoffs.

724
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Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here going, man, Lamar was on point

725
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Speaker 2: in the second half. He is ready to come out

726
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Speaker 2: and come back and win this game. And that doesn't

727
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Speaker 2: mean like it's not fully wrong. He's accountable for what

728
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: but in the first half too, But Lamar has I think,

729
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: looked like the person he needs to be in the

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Speaker 2: second half. And uh ye do overs No, I know,

731
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Speaker 2: I know. I'm not saying that he gets a pass

732
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Speaker 2: on the first half. It's just hmmm, that one's gonna

733
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Speaker 2: get forgotten. I can feel it.

734
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, got all right? Like the plate has already

735
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Speaker 4: been set. So yeah, the dysfunction on the plate going

736
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Speaker 4: into halftime is already there.

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Speaker 3: It's already there.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to the Chiefs. Also, I am

739
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Speaker 1: a little surprised.

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Speaker 2: That the Ravens have not, from a purposeful standpoint, gotten

741
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Speaker 2: Lamar's legs a little bit more involved in this game.

742
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: He only has registered five carries. What what? What?

743
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Speaker 1: What is your thought on why that might be.

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00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 4: I think they came in and they were going to

745
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 4: be heavy, heavy, Derrick Henry because of the weather, Okay,

746
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: and you don't want to open them up to you know,

747
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: being stripped dad and slipping in any of those things.

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Speaker 3: My whole thing is, hey, man.

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Speaker 1: Right, this is it.

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Speaker 4: Everything is at our disposal. This is it now you

751
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: it's no tomorrow if today don't go well.

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Speaker 2: I mean to me, this is like when the baseball

753
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: team in Game seven starts pulling their starters out and

754
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: pulling them in the bullpen and being like, I know

755
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Speaker 2: you pitched yesterday, You're pitching again today.

756
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Speaker 1: We're not worrying about your health today. This is it,

757
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: this is it, this is.

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Speaker 2: It, And now it might be too late because like,

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00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: first of all, they got to hold him to a

760
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: field goal here, and even if they do, you know,

761
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Speaker 2: you're you're, you're inside of five minutes left to go

762
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: in the game and not a lot of game left,

763
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: not a lot of game left. And he did not

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Speaker 2: register a carry in the third quarter. He has not

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Speaker 2: registered one yet in the second half. Yeah, this may

766
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: that's odd to me, that's odd to me.

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Speaker 4: This is but this will be on his plate, this

768
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: will be ah. He just doesn't, you know, in these

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00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: big games he disappears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, as great as Peyton Manning was, as great

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Speaker 4: as he was, there was one year where he overcame

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Speaker 4: his deficiencies in the playoffs with the Colts one year

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Speaker 4: and they won the Super Bowl. You don't count the

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00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 4: Denver one because he got benched and it wasn't because

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Speaker 4: of him, although he has two Super Bowls. But as

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Speaker 4: great as Peyton Manning was going up against Brady in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, it just didn't happen. And that's greatness for

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Speaker 4: my money. Peyton Manning is he changed how quarterback has

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Speaker 4: been was being played. Sure, so you know, I'm all

781
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 4: time great first ballot. Of course, he's in the Hall

782
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Speaker 4: of Fame.

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Speaker 3: All of that.

784
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson is following suit. Now he still has to

785
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Speaker 4: get off the snide and at least get one. It

786
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: just so happens. He's in the AFC and arguably the

787
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Speaker 4: greatest quarterback to ever play when it's all said and done,

788
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Speaker 4: is in his way, much to how Tom Brady was

789
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Speaker 4: for Peyton Manning. And oh, by the way, Lamar Jackson,

790
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Speaker 4: not to mention the CJ. Striald that's coming up the

791
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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. So this thing can get real ugly for

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Speaker 4: the greatness of Lamar Jackson. That's a real live take

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00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 4: right there, that's a real take.

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Speaker 3: This thing.

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Speaker 4: As great as he is, as dynamic a player as

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Speaker 4: he is, this thing can get real scary.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, man, I like, I'm not sitting here again.

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Speaker 2: I have no dog in this fight tonight. But he's

799
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Speaker 2: twenty eight years old, and I am feeling the stress

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Speaker 2: of this moment for him because I also know that

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Speaker 2: while I am someone who appreciates all aspects of Lamar,

802
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Speaker 2: I would not dive into this whole law He's a

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Speaker 2: running back playing corp.

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Speaker 1: No he's not. He's phenomenal in every single aspect of

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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 2: However, those legs are a part of what he does,

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00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: and you cannot expect that aspect of his game to

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Speaker 2: stick around for another ten years like you might expect

809
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: with a pocket quarterback. Not saying he can't play, but

810
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 2: you're right now that's gonna look like this. How many

811
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: more years is it gonna.

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Speaker 1: Look like this?

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Speaker 2: So the urgency, and I mean to a degree this

814
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:01,439
Speaker 2: is true for Josh too. The urgency for these two

815
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: guys to make their way through January could not be higher.

816
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you know, you can have the MVPs, you

817
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: can do all of that. What Tom Brady has done

818
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 4: is he set the measuring stick at Super Bowls championships,

819
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: right Dan Marino. Dan Marino, for the longest time was

820
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Speaker 4: considered the greatest quarterback to ever played because at a

821
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Speaker 4: time where the league was not a passing league, he

822
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Speaker 4: scorched the earth. No Super Bowls. People don't even talk

823
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: about him anymore. They don't even talk about him anymore.

824
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Speaker 4: So it changes. Patrick Mahomes is on pace to do

825
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 4: something no quarterback has ever done, and that's three p

826
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Speaker 4: no team, And all of this is happening while you're playing,

827
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Speaker 4: especially if Lamar Jackson ends up next week, are in

828
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Speaker 4: two weeks winning the m v P for his third.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's gonna feel like Dirk Novitsky when he got

830
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Speaker 2: knocked out right Crown.

831
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Speaker 4: So what what what do you do? You had an

832
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Speaker 4: opportunity last year they had the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you better start by holding Bills to a field goal.

834
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Speaker 4: Right now, it doesn't look like second inches. Josh Allen

835
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Speaker 4: is doing what he's supposed to do.

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Speaker 1: Third and goal from the one.

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Speaker 2: This is uh, and quite frankly, knowing what we know,

838
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Speaker 2: it will leave out.

839
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Speaker 1: This is territory.

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00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: It is Yes, you got two players to get a yard.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: And actually I would like to talk to you for

843
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: my weekly update on it from Salam and fourth downs. Yeah,

844
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Speaker 2: let's do that, coming up next on on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

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Speaker 2: these areth tie rag dot com Studios. That's e from

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Speaker 2: Salama Mark Willard. I just saw something online from the

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Speaker 2: NFL that makes me nauseous, but I'm gonna put it

848
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Speaker 2: aside for a second because we're at that moment. Okay,

849
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Speaker 2: first of all, from the Bills kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 3: They kicked a field goal.

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Speaker 1: They didn't go for it on fourth down?

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Speaker 3: We got action.

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Speaker 1: What the hell? I didn't even know you were allowed

854
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: to do that anymore.

855
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Speaker 3: Didn't feel like it.

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00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: Josh Allen got stuffed at the yard and a half

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00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: on the third down, Sean mcder kicked the field goal.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's see.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Like, I think that's what I would

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Speaker 2: have done. Is that what you would have done?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: So they're up eight and the Ravens held on the

864
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 2: kickoff return, so they got to start at their own twelve.

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Speaker 1: First down play is incomplete.

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Speaker 2: There's an injury time out on the field. It's second

867
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Speaker 2: and ten Ravens their own twelve yard line. They're down eight,

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: a little bit over three minutes left to go in

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Speaker 2: this game.

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Speaker 3: Who you want to be great? It's a lot on

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Speaker 3: the line.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: You want to be great?

874
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: Here we go.

875
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 4: This is how you be great. We watched a young

876
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: man yesterday. Oh my goodness, we gotta get it. We

877
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 4: watched a young man yesterday become great. We watched a

878
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 4: young man become great.

879
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: This is nineteen football game. Hey man, I have that right? Actually,

880
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: did let me look? Did he sit out one this

881
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 2: year in the regular season.

882
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: The other rookies that have done this are I believe,

883
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: like Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez and that was because

884
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 4: of their defenses, not because of them. What we're seeing

885
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 4: from Jaydon Daniels, he is a.

886
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 3: Superstar, superstar.

887
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: This is the most impressive rookie quarterbacking I've ever seen ever.

888
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 4: Third and two right here here it is two. Lamar

889
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 4: scrambl for eight.

890
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 1: He got eight.

891
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: He should have been scrambling a lot more. But yeah, okay,

892
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: third and two they're at their own, their own twenty

893
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 2: so many time. We'll keep you up to date. All right,

894
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna convert there. There's a three yard completion to

895
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: Justice Hill. Yes there are. There's plenty of time. Three

896
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: minute mark hits right now. First down, Ravens, they've got

897
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: they've they've they've got the ball down by eight. Good

898
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: for you, NFL. This is good stuff. Man, if only

899
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: it weren't snowing.

900
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: Right right, Come on with shot, get up, come on,

901
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 3: get on up.

902
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: By the way, the Ravens do. In addition to the

903
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: two minute warning, they do still have.

904
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: One time out as well. We'll let you know that

905
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 2: and and keep you up to date after that. A

906
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 2: three yard game. Uh, while we've got an injury time

907
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: out on the field. Can I tell you what I

908
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 2: just saw on social media, and uh, I don't like this.

909
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't like this at all. Please please, If you're

910
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: going to.

911
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: Make a mistake, I have no issue with that in life,

912
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: my goodness, I make a lot of them. I am

913
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: wrong every day. We all are, okay, don't insult my

914
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: intelligence and tell me that when you made a mistake

915
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: you didn't. NFL officiating rules analysts Walt Anderson appeared on

916
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: NFL Game Day today.

917
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: Notice that these.

918
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 2: Properties are all run by what the NFL, and Walt

919
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 2: was here to tell us in a four minute SoundBite that.

920
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: Everything you know you saw yesterday.

921
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: You didn't see it. You didn't see it. It turns

922
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,760
Speaker 2: out that was roughing the passer. And it turns out.

923
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: That that was an illegal.

924
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: Unnecessary roughness play when Patrick Mahomes decided to slide right

925
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: underneath two defenders who have absolutely nothing that they can

926
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: do with their body running at full speed, he's here

927
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: to tell us those were penalties.

928
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: Man, Hey, whoa shut up?

929
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 4: Man?

930
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 2: And I know you got sent to NFL Game Day

931
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: by your boss, so it's not your fault. You're the messenger,

932
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: but this is some BS man.

933
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: Don't do it.

934
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. I don't want to

935
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: hear it.

936
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 2: Be like Adam Silver, look in the camera and say,

937
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: we're gonna take a look at it. We can see

938
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 2: how our officials on the field yesterday made the calls

939
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 2: they did based on the rules that we've told them.

940
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: But we're gonna take a look at it because those

941
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: are tough. Because the bottom line is the way I

942
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 2: look at.

943
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: It, e from.

944
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: You can give me rules, Gobbly goook all you want.

945
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: You know what you can't answer. What is it you'd

946
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: like those defenders to do? That's what you can't answer.

947
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: And that's what bothers me. Oh, he made contact with

948
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: Patrick mahomes head, Yes, because he's got a face mask

949
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 2: protruding out of his head and so does the defender.

950
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: And sometimes in football those two things are gonna touch.

951
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: That's not forcible to the head area of Patrick Mahomes.

952
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: And when defenders are running around on the field full

953
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: speed trying to chase offensive players with the ball and

954
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: you slide at their shins, what exactly would you like

955
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: their three hundred and twenty pounds to do?

956
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: It's absurd, man, it's absurd.

957
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: They've built rules that call for the human body to

958
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: do things that it can't do, especially at three hundred

959
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: pounds at full speed. And then they're gonna sit here

960
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 2: and tell us they got it right. Get out of here, man,

961
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: I know you didn't.

962
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: It's a human nature not to admit fault. If you've

963
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 4: ever been in a relationship and got into an argument

964
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 4: or disagreements, Yes, even though you know perhaps you may

965
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: have been wrong or said something away you probably shouldn't

966
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 4: you double down?

967
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the end of the night, to sleep

968
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: on it. You're supposed to come back with a cool.

969
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: Head the next day and be like, look, look, let

970
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: me meet you halfway. I'm not asking Walt to come

971
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: out and be like, so we love Patrick and we're

972
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 2: full of crap.

973
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm not asking for that.

974
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: We need the Chiefs in the Super Bowl.

975
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: Right, I'm asking for can you meet us.

976
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: Halfway and go We need to look at because we

977
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: feel like the defensive players are being put in a little.

978
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 3: Bit of a spot. Here.

979
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: Man, this game is shaping up right here. This is

980
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 4: good shaping up. I almost want to just be quiet

981
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 4: and just watch it. But I know I ad work.

982
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 2: We're at work, and that's okay because our work is

983
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: this and so the Ravens do. Now they had a

984
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: first down into Bill's territory, got five yards on first down,

985
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 2: clock stop, minute fifty two to go, and they are

986
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: just outside the Buffalo forty yard line again, down eight

987
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: and you're right, Like I would argue with everything you

988
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: and I have done all year long, this is the

989
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: moment of the year in the NFL season.

990
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this drive right here, this is the stuff.

991
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: You want to be the MVP. Go take the MVP.

992
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: Go take it.

993
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: Well, and don't forget the way Lamar ended his his

994
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: first game this year, which was in a similar drive

995
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: at Kansas City, tippy toes on the tippy toe all

996
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: the way down the field, only to have the tippy

997
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: toes bounds. By the way, he just went back to

998
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews the guilty fumble party not too long ago

999
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: for a first down. Now we're watching them just outside

1000
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: the red zone twenty four yard line, first and ten

1001
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: minute forty four.

1002
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: Watch out for you tippies.

1003
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: Speaking of tippy toes, have you ever been in a

1004
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 4: relationship where you never want to say the wrong thing?

1005
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 4: Like you literally tiptoe around in a relationship.

1006
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: Too many of them?

1007
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 3: Right?

1008
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: Oh, what a beautiful pass touchdown likely Lamar Jackson.

1009
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, my goodness, Well, here comes the biggest two

1010
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 2: point conversion try in the history of ever.

1011
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 4: But sometimes I'm in a relationship right right now, Yes,

1012
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 4: yes you are. And so whenever we get to thirty

1013
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: past the hour and I'm still have a thought in

1014
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 4: my head, I begin to tiptoe around the fact that

1015
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 4: we got to bring my guy, the Maestro in and

1016
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 4: that's one Steven tippy toe this.

1017
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 6: Se okay, guys, let's first guess this. Lamar Jackson passed

1018
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 6: late third quarter trying for two and that failed, which

1019
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 6: is why they were down twenty one to nineteen. They're

1020
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 6: going to pass the year, right this big Buffalo twenty seven, Baltimore,

1021
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: twenty five, a minute thirty three to go, and after

1022
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 6: Jackson rolled out.

1023
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: He.

1024
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 6: Completed the goal line intended for Mark Andrews he was

1025
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,439
Speaker 6: backing up, bobbled it and dropped it too.

1026
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: Gosh, missed two.

1027
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 6: Point passes in the second half, and the Ravens still

1028
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 6: trail by two. Bill's twenty seven twenty five with about

1029
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: a minute and a half to go.

1030
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews.

1031
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews' entire career just changed in the last twenty

1032
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: Hi Goodness.

1033
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 6: In the other tight end, Isaiah Likely had just scored

1034
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 6: what looked like the possible, shall we say, tying touchdown,

1035
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 6: but no again at two point pass fails. Andrews was

1036
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 6: wide open at the one, was gonna catch it with

1037
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 6: his back to the end zone and just back in

1038
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 6: for two. Bobbled it, dropped it. Two two point passes.

1039
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 1: Nice in the second d I really want it overtime.

1040
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 6: Come on, well Boria sack in the end zone like

1041
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 6: the Rams got today, We're not getting that.

1042
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1043
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 6: At Buffalo with the snow dusted on the field, it's

1044
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 6: Bill's twenty seven to twenty five. Late in regulation, Josh

1045
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: Allen had two touchdown runs in the second quarter. One

1046
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 6: of them, a four yarder, came in the final thirty

1047
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 6: seconds before the halftime break. Derrick Henry of the Ravens,

1048
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: on sixteen carries, has eighty four yards rushing in a touchdown.

1049
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson now two td passes. He does have one interception.

1050
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 6: He has a fumble as well. Mark Andrews remember, had

1051
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 6: to fumble earlier in this game to three turnovers for Baltimore.

1052
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 6: I need not say out loud that not only was

1053
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 6: the Bills offense good. I'm the highest scoring team in

1054
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 6: the AFC thirty one points a game. The Buffalo Bill's

1055
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 6: turnover margin was easily the best in the entire NFL

1056
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 6: A plus twenty four for the season. There are plus

1057
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 6: three on the turnovers today. Buffalo would be going to

1058
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 6: Kansas City for next Sunday's AFC title game after the

1059
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 6: Chiefs eliminated at Houston yesterday. We mentioned Jaydon Daniels up

1060
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 6: stating Detroit last night. More on him in a moment.

1061
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: We do know the NFC title game will be in Philadelphia,

1062
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 6: Washington visiting Philly on Fox TV next summer, next Sunday,

1063
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 6: three pm Eastern time next summer. People are expecting the

1064
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 6: Dodgers to, let's just say this commonly have a pretty

1065
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 6: good season. They've added to the bullpen today, sign lefty

1066
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 6: reliever Tanner Scott, reportedly for four years seventy two million

1067
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 6: dollars including deferred money. Scott made his first All Star

1068
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 6: Game last summer, then he was traded by Miami to

1069
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,439
Speaker 6: San Diego in the playoffs for the Padres. This left,

1070
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 6: he faced Shoho Tani four times and struck him out

1071
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 6: four times. So the Dodgers have just signed him. In

1072
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 6: the NBA, Milwaukee beats Philadelphia, which is lost six straight.

1073
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,479
Speaker 6: No Joel Embiid, no Paul George, and a big run

1074
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 6: for the Buffalo Bills right after a timeout might be

1075
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: sewing things up. In the last minute and a half earlier,

1076
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 6: Philadelphia beat the Rams twenty eight to twenty two with

1077
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley on twenty six carries, having two hundred five

1078
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 6: yards rushing and two touchdowns. Right now with a timeout

1079
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 6: a minute eighteen left, that was a seventeen yard game.

1080
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 6: My goodness, Ty Johnson. And so that's how that drive starts.

1081
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 6: Two point lead and the ball for the Bills and

1082
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 6: Baltimore is now out of timeouts. Okay, guys, you were

1083
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 6: talking about rookie quarterbacks, and yes, only two other rookie

1084
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the history of the league had won two

1085
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 6: road playoff games until last night. It was Joe Flacco

1086
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 6: two thousand and eight, Mark Sanchez two thousand and nine.

1087
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 6: You can add Jaden Daniels to the list. How about this,

1088
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 6: In NFL history history, there have only been three instances

1089
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 6: of a team that's starting a rookie quarterback going a

1090
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 6: whole game with no punts and no turnovers. All three

1091
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 6: are by Jaden Daniels and the Commanders this season. The

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 6: playoff win at Tampa Bay last weekend, a couple of

1093
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 6: times early this season, and he did that in the

1094
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 6: first half at Detroit as well. I'm putting it out there.

1095
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 6: No rookie quarterback has ever started in a Super Bowl.

1096
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 6: Rookies have made conference title games like Mark Sanchez and

1097
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 6: Joe Flacco Brock Purty recently, rookies are zero to five

1098
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 6: in conference title games. No rookie QB has ever started

1099
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl. Updating, We're about to go back to

1100
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 6: the offense of the Bills twenty seven to twenty five,

1101
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 6: the lead about forty seconds left in this divisional playoff.

1102
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,080
Speaker 6: Buffalo is ready to take a knee back to you.

1103
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a rap.

1104
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: That's over.

1105
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: The Bills are at the Chiefs next Sunday. I'm like,

1106
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with this. Like

1107
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: the Bills they're completely deserving as well, you know what

1108
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: I mean.

1109
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm stunned.

1110
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe that the only thing that is sort

1111
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: of a black mark on this game because a two

1112
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 2: point game. This is everything that this game was supposed

1113
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: to be when you look at the final score. But

1114
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 2: you'd love for games to be decided by great plays,

1115
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 2: not the opposite. And for me, I also hate this.

1116
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,959
Speaker 2: You've said it earlier. Mark Andrews a really really good

1117
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 2: tight end. He just rewrote his story in a really

1118
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: really bad way. This is the signature night of his career,

1119
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: and it is for a fourth quarter fumble and a

1120
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: fourth quarter drop to tie a football game to head

1121
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 2: to the overtime that we all wanted.

1122
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 4: Everybody wanted it. My god, I I.

1123
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: Did have a Bills fan just tweet me and say,

1124
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 1: my heart can't take ot.

1125
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: So there was a guy out there who didn't want it,

1126
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 2: but everybody else.

1127
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 3: You got sucked down up, I know.

1128
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: I just wow. That was gut wrenching to watch.

1129
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god, he dropped it.

1130
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 2: He god, he was standing by himself the goal line

1131
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 2: and Lamar just did one of those you know those

1132
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: passes that have a sound effect, like if you're listening

1133
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 2: on the radio right now, this was the sound effect

1134
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 2: of Lamar's past, Like it's just like you do in

1135
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: your living room with your kids when they're on the

1136
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 2: couch and you're standing six feet away.

1137
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: He just threw it right at his chest and it

1138
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: just didn't catch it. That's horrible.

1139
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: That's a horrible way for that game to end.

1140
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean good for good for the Bills.

1141
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: This is a tortured fan base as well.

1142
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: I honestly, goodness, I really thought I thought there was

1143
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: a damn good chance of the tortured fan base super Bowl,

1144
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: which was Detroit and Buffalo, and so that's not gonna happen.

1145
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: But it's not like I sit here and look at

1146
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: this and there's nothing not to like about Josh Allen.

1147
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: There's nothing not to pull for with regard to the

1148
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 2: Buffalo fan base and the four Super Bowls and all

1149
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: the all the stuff. But this one leaves a little

1150
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:12,440
Speaker 2: hole in my heart too. Oh goodness, God, that was absolutely.

1151
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,799
Speaker 1: Horrible to watch.

1152
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 3: That was bad.

1153
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: That was really bad. That's really bad.

1154
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 4: And I'm sorry. I screamed, God, I screamed. He dropped

1155
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 4: it during Steve's update, and oh my gosh.

1156
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 2: The only thing that was bad about that is that

1157
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,759
Speaker 2: my TV is like a second behind yours, So no good.

1158
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 3: No good.

1159
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: Lamar was rolling out and I'm like he did.

1160
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 3: No.

1161
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: Oh that was terrible.

1162
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I can't watch the highlight.

1163
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: I can't watch this. It's like, uh, that's like a movie.

1164
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 3: Gross. Oh what do they say these days?

1165
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: The ick?

1166
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 3: It gave me the ick right there.

1167
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: That was a high level ick factor. All right, Look,

1168
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 2: let's take a breather. We need to and let's sit

1169
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 2: with that for a second. And we do need we

1170
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: do need to talk about Jaden Daniels, and we do

1171
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: need to talk about those Detroit Lions and and much

1172
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: more here in the tirec dot com studios with me

1173
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:38,839
Speaker 2: from Salama Mark Whellards five Sports Radio Okay Championship Sunday.

1174
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 2: I see you, Tireck dot Com Studios. We're still having

1175
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: a moment here. I just ran upstairs to chat with

1176
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: the kids. They're doing the same thing you and I

1177
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 2: are doing. Man, They're looking at each other like, what

1178
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: the hell just happened?

1179
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:06,240
Speaker 3: I well, we know our MVP is, do we.

1180
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: Ay?

1181
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 2: Man? I told you I know, But good lord, second

1182
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: half Lamar was perfect?

1183
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 4: Need that second half, Lamar in the first half. We

1184
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 4: know this conversation. I know there is the point he

1185
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 4: was perfect. You gotta start perfect and finish perfect.

1186
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: I hear you, bro, I hear you.

1187
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: I mean Josh, Josh just hand the ball off all day.

1188
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 3: So, I mean, if anybody could do.

1189
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 4: That, that would favor Baltimore for sure.

1190
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 1: But they got behind.

1191
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: It, and there is now is the point I understand

1192
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 4: when you turn the ball over like that, you now

1193
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 4: have to scrap your game plan.

1194
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a tough one to unpack. Man Josh

1195
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: Allen threw for one hundred and twenty seven yards. Lamar

1196
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: threw for two hundred fifty four. Lamar out rushed him.

1197
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: Lamar had Mark Andrews ball security problems.

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01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 4: Lamar had himself ball security problems. I'm not talking about

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01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 4: what Mark Andrews did. I'm talking about the turnholder that

1200
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 4: led to points and I'm talking about the interception. You

1201
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: are not wrong, but neither am I right? But I'm

1202
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 4: going to be extremely critical of an MVP caliber player. Right,

1203
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 4: we can't just gloss over the mistakes because we're talking

1204
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 4: about greatness.

1205
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 3: We're talking about elite, not good.

1206
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 1: Right.

1207
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 3: If it's.

1208
01:13:52,439 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 4: If we're having this conversation about Matthew Stafford, okay, in

1209
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 4: this conversation about who else you know, anybody else outside

1210
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 4: of these two individuals.

1211
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert, Okay, Stroud.

1212
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: They bounced back Jay Jared Goff, they bounced back the

1213
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: second half.

1214
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you're not wrong.

1215
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 4: We're talking about the best players in the world. There's

1216
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 4: three of them sitting on that mountain right now. There

1217
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 4: are two of them, not even two of them. Is

1218
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 4: only two left.

1219
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: But aren't they defined often by what they do in

1220
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 2: the end and when the.

1221
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: Chips are down, et cetera.

1222
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: The greatest of all time was once down twenty eight

1223
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: to three at halftime.

1224
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 3: But why were they down?

1225
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: Well, to be honest with you, I don't remember.

1226
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: Are you talking about Oh you're talking about Brady? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, of.

1227
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 2: Course about Brady against the Falcons. The Falcons offense was

1228
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 2: torching their defense. But by the same token, they had

1229
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: three points at halftime. That means Tom Brady was doing

1230
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 2: a big old pile of bumb kiss and then Tom

1231
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: Brady things started happening.

1232
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 4: But the reason we speak about it the way we

1233
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 4: speak about it is because they won.

1234
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: If they didn't win, it'd be a different story.

1235
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: But his receivers caught the ball.

1236
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 3: I understand that.

1237
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: They caught the ball, and in some cases they caught

1238
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: the ball in unbelievable ways, Julian Edelman.

1239
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 4: So, like you said, two things can be right at

1240
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 4: the same time. Because they won, we don't talk about

1241
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: what it was. We just talk about what it is.

1242
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 4: Because Baltimore loss, we talk about what it was. The

1243
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 4: first half was awful. Can you be this and you

1244
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 4: do that? You put your team in home? All of

1245
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 4: that now is the narrative. We didn't create the narrative.

1246
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 4: We just talk about it. Because the narrative is Lamar

1247
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 4: Jackson dug a hole for his team they couldn't get

1248
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:29,679
Speaker 4: out of. Yeah, opposed to Lamar Jackson had an awful

1249
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 4: first half and came back like gangbusters in the second

1250
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 4: half and led his team to victory. They're on their

1251
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 4: way to right. That's how That's how we speak about that.

1252
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 4: That Super Bowl with Tom Brady.

1253
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: I feel you it like, let me ask you this.

1254
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: This is just for fun. You can answer it however

1255
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: you wanted. If we were doing that classic question, let's

1256
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: let's start an NFL team and everybody in the world

1257
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 2: is a free agent.

1258
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: You have the first pick, go.

1259
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes.

1260
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I take Lamar And I know that sounds ridiculous,

1261
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: but I really really do believe that surroundings matter, context matter.

1262
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna sit here and spend the first.

1263
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 4: Hour we're talking about the first pick, there is no surroundings, so.

1264
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 1: Right, like all the more reason to pick Lamar.

1265
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 4: No, I'm taking telling you put Patrick Mahomes on any

1266
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 4: team on planet Earth. He gonna limp them them to

1267
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 4: the playoffs. Yeah, same with Lamar, John limp them to

1268
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 4: the the AFC Championship game.

1269
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 1: Same with Lamar and Johns.

1270
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 4: Well, well, based on what Lamar is a part of

1271
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 4: right now, meaning they have the most All Pro players

1272
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 4: and Pro Bowl players on of any team on that Baltimore.

1273
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that side of Derrick Henry who is

1274
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: the weapon Mark Jackson has that's actually a plus player,

1275
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 2: all pro they talk about all pro.

1276
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,879
Speaker 1: That's not an All Pro wide receiver in the AFC.

1277
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: He's good, he's very good.

1278
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 4: No, there's only what Chase, No, there's only three. None

1279
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,480
Speaker 4: of them are in the playoffs.

1280
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, yes, now we're back to the receiver conversation.

1281
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 2: Right.

1282
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, if I'm building something, I'm building,

1283
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 4: if it's starting with the guy that I must trust

1284
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 4: more than anything, I'm starting with the guy that I

1285
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 4: trust more than anything, no matter what. How many times

1286
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 4: have we seen Patrick mahomes with no offensive line or

1287
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 4: no outside deep threats are no blah blah blah, are

1288
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 4: no defense or no blah blah blah.

1289
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought we already established you're not allowed to

1290
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: touch him.

1291
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: He's playing by different rules.

1292
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 3: Whatever that is. I sign up for it.

1293
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 4: If I'm if I look, if I'm an owner of

1294
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 4: a team and I'm starting a team, I want that.

1295
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,760
Speaker 4: Give me whatever that is now at least I get

1296
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 4: to benefit from it. And another it's a two for

1297
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 4: I pick him so I don't have to be so

1298
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 4: I don't have to deal with it.

1299
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

1300
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 2: I listen, you're not You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

1301
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 2: By the way, your second pick.

1302
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 1: Well you Patrick, So I'll take Lamar.

1303
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, who's your second pick, Josh. In terms

1304
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 4: of starting a team, you can't have both of them

1305
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 4: on it. I'm talking about in terms of anybody.

1306
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, what it gets back to me?

1307
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1308
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: Oh, I probably TJ. Watt.

1309
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm going for it, Rush, Henry, we got more

1310
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: to talk about again, D's.

1311
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 1: Are out next.

1312
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay, somehow, some way we are going to make peace.

1313
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 2: With the way this game ended a short time ago,

1314
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: but Championship Sunday is set. We have not talked very

1315
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 2: much yet about the best rookie quarterback we've ever seen

1316
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: and the one and done disappointment for the entire fan.

1317
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 1: Base in Detroit.

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01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:25,360
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Speaker 1: All right, you want to have some fun real quick?

1324
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: Have you looked?

1325
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you looked at the spreads that are open

1326
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 2: for these games yet? Okay, great, Let's have you guess

1327
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: Washington commanders at the Philadelphia Eagles.

1328
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: What do you think the spread is?

1329
01:20:54,840 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 4: I think it's minus minus thirteen.

1330
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:08,520
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa for Philly. For Philly minus thirteen.

1331
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I mean there's a little more respect.

1332
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: For Washington than that.

1333
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it is.

1334
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 2: Minus Hey, bro, if you find that that any.

1335
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: Sports book were you were you.

1336
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 3: The web address? I got that web address, I got you.

1337
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: This thing opened at minus four and a half.

1338
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 2: It has been quickly bet up to five, which means

1339
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 2: early money came in on Philly.

1340
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: But but right now it's SIT's at five.

1341
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 3: It'll get up to i'd say, get up to nine

1342
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 3: by time.

1343
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, no no, this is not getting

1344
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: up to a touchdown, No way.

1345
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 1: I watch. I'll bet you on that.

1346
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: I bet this gets to six, six and a half

1347
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: at the absolute most, we'll see. But that's where it

1348
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: sits right now. Five points Eagles favored. What do you

1349
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 2: think the spread is in Kansas City? Three in favor

1350
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 2: of Kansas City. It actually opened as Kansas City favored

1351
01:22:20,479 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: by a point and a half, is all. And by

1352
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: the way, it's been fluctuating since then, back and forth

1353
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: between a point and a half and just a point,

1354
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 2: which means are the money is coming in on Buffalo

1355
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 2: even at well. And it's also saying that on a

1356
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 2: neutral field, Buffalo would be favored. Yeah, and Buffalo already

1357
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 2: went to Kansas City earlier this year regular season.

1358
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 4: I know that's different, but uh, I mean we've done that.

1359
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 4: They've done that before. They've done that game before.

1360
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: Yes, they won by nine points in Actually, I'm sorry

1361
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: that was not in Kansas City. It was in Buffalo,

1362
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: but played the Chiefs this year and they want.

1363
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah it was there only real loss Kansas.

1364
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: City's yeah, correct, correct, Yeah.

1365
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: It's it's gonna be good. I'm really pulling for Washington.

1366
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: Everybody is.

1367
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 4: I'm really pulling for Washington. I don't want to tap

1368
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 4: myself on the back, but.

1369
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: Go ahead, dude, I'm here. I'll say it for you.

1370
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 2: I'll say it for you. The two of us were

1371
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 2: both very high on Washington before the year even started,

1372
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: but you said it further than I did.

1373
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a real feeling about this young man, and.

1374
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 2: My thought was good team. That's a year away. I

1375
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 2: remember that's what I said. You predicted that they would

1376
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 2: win the division. Yeah, which they didn't. But here they

1377
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: are on championship Sunday. Still got to go play that

1378
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: other team in their division.

1379
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah they do.

1380
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 4: I mean they went to Detroit and dismantled them. So

1381
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 4: at this point they just out here days out here

1382
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 4: playing dyes, out here bowling.

1383
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: And I really thought I was not terribly surprised by

1384
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: what they did last Sunday. During our show, we knew

1385
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 2: that would be a close game. This one last night woof.

1386
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 2: That sucker opened my eyes because I thought, when you

1387
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: get when you have a rookie QB, you get that

1388
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: postseason win on the road in Tampa, it's too easy

1389
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: to go out there the next week at the one

1390
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,799
Speaker 2: seed and kind of do the well, now we got

1391
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: we've got nothing to lose.

1392
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: We've kind of peaked.

1393
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: They could lose that game, in other words, and everyone

1394
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 2: would give them a standing ovation and say what a.

1395
01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: Wonderful season that was.

1396
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: And instead they went out and scored forty five points, like,

1397
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,599
Speaker 2: oh they got you guys aren't messing around.

1398
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 4: They out Dan Campbell. Dan Campbell sure did. And I

1399
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 4: still don't like it.

1400
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they go for it on fourth down a ton

1401
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: and it bit them early again.

1402
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like it.

1403
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: But then they but then they bounced back.

1404
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 4: God, every time they do it, I'm just like, nope,

1405
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna look away. I'm just gonna look away.

1406
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 4: And we had some correspondence doing that game, like we

1407
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 4: did here we go, there we go.

1408
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 3: I guess it's the new normal, but I don't know.

1409
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 4: Man. Well, they went for it four times. They were

1410
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 4: three for four and Detroit were two for two for

1411
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 4: two mm hmm, but they were four for twelve on

1412
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:16,720
Speaker 4: third down. Now you can't. Ugh, that's a tough living.

1413
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: Man, it is. But that's that's the new normal. And

1414
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this.

1415
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: No one will talk about this because Mark Andrews dropped

1416
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: a football. But if Mark Andrews doesn't drop that football

1417
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: and the Ravens win a football game in overtime, what

1418
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 2: do you think?

1419
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: Question number one is for Sean McDermott.

1420
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Right now, if they if they would have lost that

1421
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: one uh.

1422
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Huh, Hey, Sean, you've got Josh Allen fourth and one

1423
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: from the one yard line. Why wouldn't you go for it.

1424
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you go for it and put the game away?

1425
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do that?

1426
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 4: And his answer should be, I think when you get

1427
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 4: any situation's points of paramount, that's the right answer.

1428
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: It worked, they won, They're playing next week.

1429
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: Gotta take the point.

1430
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and Baltimore not taking the extra point.

1431
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:34,839
Speaker 4: Because if right, and if they mightn't take those points,

1432
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 4: you lose that ballgame. You lose that ballgame because all

1433
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 4: they need is essentially six points to beat you.

1434
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 2: Right, except for they would have started their drive at

1435
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: their own one, but they ended up starting the drive

1436
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:52,240
Speaker 2: that they did do at the twelve.

1437
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 4: So okay, yeah, but it's a condensed field.

1438
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows what would have happened.

1439
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want to trade like, I'm never gonna

1440
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: trade points. I'm gonna take them. I'm gonna take them.

1441
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna reset the field, give my defense well a

1442
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 4: long field, right, Like, that's what I'm doing. I'm doing

1443
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 4: that every single time. Freeze that up.

1444
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: Man, you mentioned that you're pulling for Washington.

1445
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 3: I am.

1446
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 2: This is a fascinating championship Sunday. I actually think if

1447
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 2: you don't live in Kansas City or Philadelphia, everybody's pulling

1448
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: for the exact same thing.

1449
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 1: I believe, so everyone, And I'm.

1450
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: Sorry if you don't agree, or wherever you're listening or

1451
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 2: whoever you're root for, everyone is rooting for Washington to

1452
01:28:54,920 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 2: play Buffalo. That is the game we want to see.

1453
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Is like, the quarterbacks are more exciting, the fan bases

1454
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:17,440
Speaker 2: are suffering. There's all of the other the factors surrounding

1455
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs. And I know, like I'm a

1456
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 2: big believer in Super Bowls that you want a villain,

1457
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: you want a villain in there. And maybe so that

1458
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 2: would be the problem with Buffalo and Washington. I have

1459
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 2: no idea who the villain would be, but I already

1460
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 2: texted all my people. I said, if Kansas City's playing

1461
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Philly in the super Bowl, go ahead, I'll tend bar

1462
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 2: at your super Bowl party. I don't even want to

1463
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 2: watch that crap. That's just and I'm just being a

1464
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 2: dorky fan. But for me, that's yuck versus yuck. I mean,

1465
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: I like some of the players on those teams, I

1466
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,600
Speaker 2: really do, but I do not want to see the

1467
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs play the Eagles again.

1468
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 1: Right where? I'm good? All set there, But if you

1469
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 1: could give.

1470
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: Me two of the best athletes in the league playing

1471
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 2: quarterback against each other, sign me up.

1472
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 3: Mmm, sign me up. I can't wait to see Jayden Man.

1473
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 4: I can't wait to see like I'm waiting for the

1474
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 4: for the games to be to me.

1475
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: What do you think?

1476
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 2: What do you right now? What do you think of

1477
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: these two games? What's your initial reaction to the matchup,

1478
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: the situation, the home field, the all of it.

1479
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,480
Speaker 3: I think.

1480
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: Washington it's gonna be tough, and it's gonna be tough

1481
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 4: for him because of one reason.

1482
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 3: Take one. Barkley mm hmm. Take one Barkley, it's now

1483
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 3: a j Brown, Now Jalen Hurds.

1484
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: No, I mean Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir Gibbs went crazy yesterday. Yeah,

1485
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: and they withstood it.

1486
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,080
Speaker 3: But you don't want to make a living like that.

1487
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:12,759
Speaker 4: And that was say que Lord sixty eight and seventy

1488
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 4: six yard, Yeah, touchdown once today man, No.

1489
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 2: And Gibbs went over one hundred rushing and had seventy

1490
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: yards receiving as well. So Jamiir was fantastic. And that

1491
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:27,800
Speaker 2: was only on twenty touches that he had one hundred

1492
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 2: and seventy yards and two touchdowns. And you know, Detroit

1493
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 2: turned the ball over a ton and uh and and

1494
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 2: therefore Washington wins.

1495
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 4: When you look at that comparison, Jayden Daniels as a

1496
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:49,879
Speaker 4: quarterback had a better year than Jalen Hurts easily.

1497
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 1: The thing I don't write it. He is a better player.

1498
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: He is a better player.

1499
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 3: Jadan Daniels is. They're also their leading rusher, right.

1500
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Mcla was good though, Yeah, he was, he was.

1501
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: He was.

1502
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 4: McLaurin outdueled AJ Brown by twenty yards, but he had

1503
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 4: eighteen more receptions. So it's it's going to be something, say,

1504
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 4: Kwon Barkley is a problem. He is a problem. I know,

1505
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 4: New York they got it. Oh my god, every single

1506
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 4: person should be fired.

1507
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: What were they doing? What were they doing?

1508
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 3: How we saw it?

1509
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 2: We saw it, We've always seen it. When does he

1510
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 2: not look like that? I mean, I know he's been hurt.

1511
01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 2: Who hasn't, but like he's fantastic?

1512
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

1513
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it either. I don't get it either.

1514
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 2: And and by the way, the New York Giants did

1515
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 2: that for financial reasons, and I don't even know who

1516
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 2: it is they're paying, right, Like the Cowboys were over

1517
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: here being like, nope, we're not going to do Derrick

1518
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: Henry because they're like, you know, dak CD, we're doing contracts.

1519
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: The Giants are like, yeah, let's save two million at

1520
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: running back and get Devin Singletary. And I'm sorry, why

1521
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,719
Speaker 2: your best player is a rookie?

1522
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: Who are you paying?

1523
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 3: Nobody? What a weird deal, man, that's a terrible It's

1524
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 3: just terrible, Just.

1525
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 1: A weird deal.

1526
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 3: The guy you're paying is not even on the roster.

1527
01:33:54,040 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Correct, correct, he's gone. All right.

1528
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 2: I'd love to get your early handicap of Bills Chiefs

1529
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: as well. I think we do want to get in

1530
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 2: a little bit to fall out in Detroit and off

1531
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 2: we go. Oh, I do have one non football question

1532
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 2: to ask you to one and so all that's.

1533
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:23,639
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1534
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1540
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Speaker 2: your podcasts. The show posted right after we get off

1541
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 2: the air, as Plank and Span. You're coming here and

1542
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,599
Speaker 2: start y about everything that's going on.

1543
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: I just said.

1544
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 2: Another friend text me the exact same thing. If it's

1545
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:08,839
Speaker 2: Chiefs Eeagulls, I'm out.

1546
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 3: So much.

1547
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: How to get that going?

1548
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,480
Speaker 2: Since we know the NFL likes to rig everything, apparently,

1549
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,839
Speaker 2: let them know if the Chiefs go, we.

1550
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 3: Don't, Oh, period, Jeeves are going.

1551
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: You think they're beating the Bills.

1552
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 3: I think.

1553
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Talk to me.

1554
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,680
Speaker 3: I think the NF it behooves the NFL for them

1555
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 3: to go.

1556
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 1: Why exactly?

1557
01:35:38,080 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 4: No team has ever had a three p okay, But

1558
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 4: that's a big no, no, no, no. We've had dynasties and

1559
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 4: no one's been able to be that great that long.

1560
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this, if they happen to pull

1561
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 4: it off, who's to say they can't do it for

1562
01:35:58,680 --> 01:35:59,679
Speaker 4: fourth time in a row.

1563
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,759
Speaker 2: Well, no one would say that. I mean, they're obviously great,

1564
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 2: and he's obviously great. I guess I'm wondering why now, Like,

1565
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 2: if the NFL is so activated on that idea, why

1566
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 2: didn't they do it with Brady? Why why didn't they

1567
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 2: do it with Montana. I don't think it's a different

1568
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 2: time now.

1569
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 3: I think it's I.

1570
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,520
Speaker 1: Don't know, Like, do you actually think that there's a conspiracy?

1571
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 4: No? Absolutely not, Okay, no, nope, nope, No, I played

1572
01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:27,880
Speaker 4: way too many games.

1573
01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

1574
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,639
Speaker 4: But what I will say in terms of what's a

1575
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 4: better story.

1576
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 2: Ah, I'll buy what you're saying. But but like, does

1577
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:43,480
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1578
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 3: Need that everybody needs l story?

1579
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's not a good story.

1580
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's a great story, But does that story move

1581
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 3: the needle?

1582
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 1: It's the Super Bowl?

1583
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's the greatest player on the planet.

1584
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 4: Earth right now, and sure, Patrick Mahomes, okay, so but like, look, listen, listen,

1585
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 4: listen to the listen to the story.

1586
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: Though go Ahead.

1587
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 4: Won more one score games than ever before, didn't make

1588
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 4: All Pro, didn't even make the Pro Bowl, but he

1589
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 4: wins Super Bowl MVP and his third Super Bowl in

1590
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 4: the row. You want to talk about greatness, that's a story.

1591
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't argue that. But here's my rebuttal.

1592
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 2: My rebuttal is do you remember and I know that

1593
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 2: you do Tiger Woods at the top of his game, yes,

1594
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 2: and as he would win major and then and what

1595
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 2: what's or he started develop the story became you know what,

1596
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 2: Tiger needs arrival, like Phil, will you do it? David

1597
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:18,280
Speaker 2: Duvall lost weight and he won't do it anymore. Can

1598
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 2: someone please check this, dude, so that we can have

1599
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 2: what we all show up for? Competition? What did Tom

1600
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: Brady have his whole career, even though he won almost

1601
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: every time?

1602
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 3: What did he have competition?

1603
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: He had? Peyton?

1604
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a bit. I don't care. It's competition everywhere.

1605
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: No, because none of them have broken through the other

1606
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champions around the league are all forty years old.

1607
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 2: We're looking at Rogers and Russell and Staffers. Yeah, but

1608
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 2: he only just got there. We need someone else to

1609
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: break through so we can let these guys butt heads.

1610
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1611
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 3: I mean, there's gonna be a lot of head button.

1612
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 2: Well, he needs a Phil Mickelson, he needs a Peyton Manning.

1613
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: He doesn't have one.

1614
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: He's got a bunch of dudes scratching around, especially the

1615
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: young guys who have.

1616
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: All been to one, but they won't win one.

1617
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, Jalen Hurts, Joe Burrow, and then

1618
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 2: there's these other two guys who we all think are

1619
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 2: the best play They.

1620
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 4: Can't even get to one because of him, I know.

1621
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 4: But man, because of him, I got you. Peyton Manning

1622
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 4: couldn't get to him because of Tom Brady.

1623
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: But then he did.

1624
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,880
Speaker 3: Yep. But but then the.

1625
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 4: Rival doesn't come from the other side, he comes from

1626
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:49,480
Speaker 4: within your conference.

1627
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: Well that's what this is.

1628
01:39:56,439 --> 01:40:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you named all of the NF see.

1629
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: You guys, Well, no, I said Joe Burrow.

1630
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 4: That's right, like Joe Burrow, like these are these are

1631
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 4: these are quarterbacks who are elite as well. Now this

1632
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 4: is also you have to take into account Andy Reid.

1633
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 4: It's about a great coach. So it's not only Patrick

1634
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 4: Mahomes versus whoever this star quarterback is. It's Andy Reid

1635
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 4: versus whatever coach. What coaches are left? Who do you

1636
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 4: trust more? It's like Belichick right when it came down

1637
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 4: to it, who do you trust over Belichick in a matchup?

1638
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 4: It took two miraculous plays by Eli Manning in a

1639
01:40:54,439 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 4: halatious defense, and then it took you know, I don't

1640
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 4: know where the universe was when.

1641
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Nick Foles, you know, became the lure of Philly.

1642
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of story I'm talking about.

1643
01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 3: Does Jalen Hurts get that story?

1644
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 2: No, Josh Allen Wood, I mean no, not the Nick

1645
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Foles type of a story. But again, how about this

1646
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 2: for a story? What's better next year? Let's say Patrick

1647
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:42,400
Speaker 2: wins it again? What's better next year? Patrick going for

1648
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 2: four or Patrick becoming the hunter again?

1649
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 3: I think I always go in favor of going for four?

1650
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I know, man, that feels like the Chiefs are

1651
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 2: boor they are mere, they're boor Yeah, like you cannot

1652
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 2: even argue watching Patrick play versus Josh Allen or Lamar.

1653
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I get it.

1654
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 2: I understand if you're a fan of the Chiefs, good

1655
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 2: for you. You're having a great time. But I'm telling

1656
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 2: you what those of us out here in I don't

1657
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: have a dog in the fight land or thinking. I

1658
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:26,639
Speaker 2: would like to watch Josh Allen play.

1659
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, and I would like to listen to Steve

1660
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:30,639
Speaker 4: de Seger give the estate.

1661
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 3: That's true too.

1662
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 6: Hello again, gentlemen. I did hear a stat last night

1663
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 6: that since Patrick Mahomes was drafted that was the twenty

1664
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,759
Speaker 6: seventeen draft, all the quarterbacks, not just in that year's draft,

1665
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 6: but all the drafts since twenty seventeen, Mahomes is the

1666
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 6: only one that's won a Super Bowl title in that

1667
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 6: whole span, because if you go back the last decade,

1668
01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 6: the only Super Bowl winning quarterbacks are Tom Brady, go

1669
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 6: back to Peyton Manning, Nick Foles, and three years ago

1670
01:42:59,000 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford, and then the rest would be Kansas City wins.

1671
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 6: And by the way, I looked up the twenty seventeen

1672
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 6: NFL draft, let's recall that the Bears trained up to

1673
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:11,639
Speaker 6: get Mitchell Trubisky with Patrick Mahomes still on the board

1674
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 6: and available and taken at number ten overall in the

1675
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 6: first round by the Chiefs and then Deshaun Watson a

1676
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 6: couple picks later by the Texans. Well, we had losses

1677
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 6: for the Ravens and the Rams. They're out in the

1678
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 6: divisional round of the NFL playoffs, so we know. The

1679
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 6: NFC Championship game next Sunday at three pm Eastern Time

1680
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 6: on Fox TV is Washington at Philadelphia. They split their

1681
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 6: two regular season meetings. No snow in the forecast in

1682
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 6: Philly for next weekend unlike today. Then the AFC Championship

1683
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 6: game next Sunday will at Buffalo at Kansas City. The

1684
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 6: Bills beat them in Buffalo in November. Chiefs had been

1685
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 6: nine to oh at the time. Any guess on what

1686
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens win loss record in recent years is

1687
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 6: when they're down at halftime by double digits, because they

1688
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 6: were today. Remember Josh Allen had that touchdown run right

1689
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 6: before halftime. It made it twenty one to ten Buffalo.

1690
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 6: That kind of turned out to be key. Twenty seven

1691
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 6: to twenty five was the final over the Ravens. The

1692
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 6: answer is the Ravens haven't won a single game in

1693
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 6: recent years. Went down by ten plus points at the half.

1694
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 6: Going back to twenty eighteen, there's only one other winless

1695
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 6: team in that span, and that's the Raiders in that

1696
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 6: stat yes, they've lost plenty more than ZH to ten,

1697
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,719
Speaker 6: but it's just amazing that not even once since twenty

1698
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,519
Speaker 6: eighteen have they had those kind of comebacks, which, again,

1699
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 6: when you start comparing the modern AFC quarterbacks, again points

1700
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 6: to how amazing the career of Patrick Mahomes has been

1701
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,880
Speaker 6: to this point, because if you look at win loss

1702
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 6: records for quarterbacks when they're down double digits at any

1703
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 6: point in a game since twenty eighteen, Mahomes is the

1704
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:53,840
Speaker 6: only one that has a winning record in those situations.

1705
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:58,120
Speaker 6: By comparison, Lamar Jackson down double digits at any point

1706
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson eight and fourteen, Patrick Mahomes nineteen and fourteen.

1707
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,799
Speaker 6: Kansas City will be hosting Buffalo next weekend. The Bills

1708
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 6: went undefeated at home this season, ten a zero. After

1709
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 6: Tonight's win against Baltimore twenty seven twenty five, Josh Allen

1710
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,839
Speaker 6: two short touchdown runs in the second quarter. The Ravens

1711
01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,799
Speaker 6: missed two two point conversion passes in the second half,

1712
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 6: including a late drop by Mark Andrews. Who also had

1713
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 6: a fumble. Lamar Jackson with two touchdown passes and two

1714
01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 6: turnovers as well. His fumble led to a touchdown in

1715
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 6: the first half. In fact, the comment from Lamar Jackson

1716
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 6: at the press conference tonight is turnovers. Can't have that

1717
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,760
Speaker 6: hold on to the stink and ball. Sorry for my language,

1718
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 6: but this is annoying. I am tired of this end quote.

1719
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 6: Philadelphia eliminated the Rams earlier today, twenty eight to twenty five.

1720
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 6: Saquon Barkley twenty six carries, two hundred five yards rushing

1721
01:45:54,479 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 6: and two scores. The Rams defense had seven sacks today

1722
01:45:58,160 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 6: Eagles had five. Matthew still after two touchdown passes over

1723
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 6: three hundred yards through the air, one fumble. As for

1724
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 6: Monday night, remember it's the College football National Championship game

1725
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 6: in Atlanta, eight seed Ohio State against seven seed Notre

1726
01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 6: Dame in the NBA, We've got three late games going on.

1727
01:46:15,640 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 6: The Clippers at home are destroying the Lakers eighty six

1728
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,799
Speaker 6: sixty four. Steve, watch it home in the third, Corter,

1729
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 6: it's so well, let's just say they're down double didgets

1730
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 6: and leave it at that. Earlier Oklahoma City all over

1731
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 6: Brooklyn won twenty seven one oh one shay gil Just

1732
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,559
Speaker 6: Alexander was questionable with a sprained wrist. He played, he

1733
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 6: had twenty seven points and tennis sists. Okase is thirty

1734
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,879
Speaker 6: five and seven. By the way, Evan Mobley of Cleveland

1735
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 6: will be out again Monday with a calf injury. New

1736
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 6: York's Karl Anthony Towns questionable for tomorrow with his thumb injury.

1737
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 6: He'd missed the last couple of games. Golden State Steph

1738
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 6: Curry questionable for Monday with a sprained ankle. Back to you, Hi, wow,

1739
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 6: that's a lot. That's a lot to show on. By

1740
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 6: the way, Steve, while you're here, I mentioned one non

1741
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 6: football question. I have it for both of you. You're

1742
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:06,800
Speaker 6: allowed to answer either way. I would just love to

1743
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 6: hear what your opinion, your backing of your opinion is.

1744
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 6: So today it was Tanner Scott earlier over the weekend,

1745
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 6: Dodger pause. Yes, yes, they're the great reliever who's getting

1746
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 6: seventy two million much of it deferred?

1747
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair, Yeah, exactly exactly.

1748
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,240
Speaker 2: There's a long list of deferrals obviously started with sho

1749
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: Heyo Tani.

1750
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:36,440
Speaker 6: Which just makes me believe even more that this ownership

1751
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 6: group is going to sell the team at some point.

1752
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 6: I mean, they have to pay off all of this.

1753
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 2: They're they're going to owe more than the thing is worth.

1754
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 2: For crying out loud at this right but anyway, and

1755
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,679
Speaker 2: then of course on Friday, I think it was Friday,

1756
01:47:48,720 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 2: Thursday or Friday, Roki Sasaki is also going to the Dodgers.

1757
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Good good, right, right? Good for baseball, yes or no?

1758
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 6: Not bad for baseball. And I think the out for

1759
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 6: baseball is that, unlike the other sports, they have a

1760
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 6: postseason where good teams get eliminated early all the time.

1761
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 6: So you get the attention on the team and the

1762
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 6: eyeballs with tennant you know race or you know, first

1763
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 6: round of the playoffs. But it's not a fade, a

1764
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 6: complete of what's going to happen as we saw the

1765
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 6: previous two seasons with the Dodgers. Quite for sure, it's

1766
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 6: like it's like we just saw football playoffs. It's like

1767
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 6: a different quarterback every game. Imagine for a team and

1768
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:31,559
Speaker 6: then trying to make a playoff run that way. And

1769
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,240
Speaker 6: in the Dodgers case this past year, it's still amazing

1770
01:48:34,280 --> 01:48:37,160
Speaker 6: they won the thing because they didn't have five guys

1771
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 6: healthy for a five man rotation in the regular season

1772
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,639
Speaker 6: or even four in the playoffs. For a four man rotation.

1773
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 6: So sign twelve pitchers and see if five are healthy.

1774
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 6: That's currently six. Actually they're going to have to go

1775
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 6: to a six man rotation to take it easy on

1776
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 6: the arms.

1777
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: How would you answer it, Afram, I think it's good

1778
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:55,799
Speaker 1: for baseball.

1779
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 3: I think it's great for the Dodgers.

1780
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 2: Sure well, hello, yeah, yeah, they're they're i mean pretty

1781
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 2: good at baseball.

1782
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: A lot of those players on.

1783
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:06,160
Speaker 3: I think this.

1784
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 4: Year was a tremendous year for the Dodgers, not only

1785
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 4: because of the World Series, but I think they captivated

1786
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 4: a lot of non baseball fans, right and for baseball,

1787
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 4: that's what you want. Right outside of even California. I

1788
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:25,719
Speaker 4: think show Hay and the duels that were going on,

1789
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 4: and that lineup and the bullpen games, I think it

1790
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 4: brought a level of excitement to baseball that baseball can

1791
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 4: benefit from. That's a big brand that the World Series

1792
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 4: with the with the Dodgers and and the Yankees.

1793
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 6: And it was Arizona, Texas literally one year ago.

1794
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 3: Who's watching that?

1795
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, sure, I guess this is for me

1796
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 2: my immediate reaction is a little bit less about the

1797
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:01,759
Speaker 2: result of the season and more about the interest that's.

1798
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 1: Being generated on the way in.

1799
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:08,000
Speaker 2: And I guess the debate centers around you know what

1800
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: we've been talking about in basketball for years, which is

1801
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 2: the idea of super teams good or bad? And I

1802
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 2: would usually argue that data would show they're good. It's

1803
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:20,840
Speaker 2: a good thing.

1804
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 6: Well, the two big stories in sports. It was written

1805
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 6: one hundred years ago by one of the old sports writers.

1806
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:30,800
Speaker 6: The two biggest stories are big Man wins or big

1807
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 6: Man loses?

1808
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,439
Speaker 1: Right too, exactly right, Yes you want that.

1809
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 2: I mean we're kind of having this conversation about Mahomes, right,

1810
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 2: do you want him in the Super.

1811
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: Bowl so that you can for him or against him

1812
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: or not?

1813
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,400
Speaker 2: I just I wonder if baseball isn't starting to feel

1814
01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 2: a little bit like college football in many markets.

1815
01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,080
Speaker 6: It would have been better for baseball if Sasaki had

1816
01:50:53,120 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 6: been a Padre, because the Padres have spent a lot

1817
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 6: of money, but they don't have a lot left over

1818
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 6: to spend, and they could have gotten a guaranteed their

1819
01:51:02,280 --> 01:51:05,840
Speaker 6: guy at a young age type of starter cheaply, kind

1820
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:08,559
Speaker 6: of like when Otani first came over cheaply for the

1821
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:13,599
Speaker 6: Angels and then they did nothing with it, right right, yeah, I.

1822
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean, Like, do some baseball

1823
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: markets feel like, uh, you know when Alabama plays the

1824
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: Citadel in November.

1825
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 6: No, it's not quite that thing.

1826
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if the Pirates can't even seem

1827
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 2: to call Paul Schemes to talk about a contract, and

1828
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 2: now that's one guy.

1829
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1830
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 2: I like, I can't speak for all of those markets,

1831
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 2: and and and how how the fans feel when it's

1832
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: just a parade of the top names to the same

1833
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,000
Speaker 2: city and and and organization.

1834
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 3: I don't want.

1835
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this is different because.

1836
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,759
Speaker 4: Because somebody other than the Yankees are doing it, I guess.

1837
01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 2: But right, so, now, the Yankees never did this. They

1838
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 2: never they never deferred that amount of money. He like you,

1839
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't blame the Dodgers. The rule was set the

1840
01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,840
Speaker 2: way it is. But to me, baseball left a door

1841
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 2: unlocked that they that somebody walked through. And so that's

1842
01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 2: not the Dodger's fault. They walked through an unlocked door,

1843
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:19,719
Speaker 2: but somebody should have locked the door.

1844
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's that's the way I look, it's why it

1845
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 4: opened right now, yeah, and so other teams need to

1846
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 4: take heed and also walk through that door, right that

1847
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 4: most can't.

1848
01:52:32,360 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: Well, but I would argue the onus is.

1849
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 2: On that, Like I would love people talk about a

1850
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,840
Speaker 2: salary cap, which will never happen. I would love to

1851
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: see if you were going to have that conversation. There

1852
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 2: needs to be a salary floor too.

1853
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, that's the problem. Because there is no floor.

1854
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 4: You can just keep going down, down down.

1855
01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 6: The A's and the Pirates aren't spending anywhere near one

1856
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 6: hundred million total for their whole roster, which is absurd,

1857
01:52:57,240 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 6: and the Houston Astros are way over two hundred million,

1858
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,360
Speaker 6: and Texas Rangers way over two hundred million.

1859
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:07,960
Speaker 4: And forget, it wasn't that long ago that the Dodgers

1860
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:09,440
Speaker 4: couldn't even make payroll.

1861
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:15,000
Speaker 6: That's right before this ownership, right right, Yeah, MLB, don't

1862
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 6: the team right exactly.

1863
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 2: There's no criticism of the X were being bound at all. Yeah,

1864
01:53:20,840 --> 01:53:23,920
Speaker 2: this is this is them taking advantage of a situation,

1865
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 2: and they have every right to do that. And yes,

1866
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 2: other major market teams should be held accountable for not

1867
01:53:30,520 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: and the quote unquote smaller market teams should be participating

1868
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 2: in the salary floor I completely believe that, but I wonder,

1869
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 2: I wonder what the move is, you know, because like

1870
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:47,360
Speaker 2: like Tiger Woods was amazing until Augusta was like, eh,

1871
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 2: we should probably change the holes, you.

1872
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 1: Know what I mean? Like this is that's kind of

1873
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: what I feel like here with baseball.

1874
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 6: I will say with baseball, there are plenty of other

1875
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 6: teams that spend about two hundred and fifty million in

1876
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 6: salary and don't necessarily win titles. Whether it's Braves, Cubs, Phillies,

1877
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 6: I mentioned the Astros Toronto. It's not like these teams

1878
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,000
Speaker 6: have small payrolls. There was an article this weekend on

1879
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 6: MLB dot com, the headline of which was the Dodgers

1880
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 6: aren't unstoppable even with Sasaki, and some of the things

1881
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 6: we've kicked around just now are things of reasons why

1882
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 6: they won't necessarily be winning it all this year, and

1883
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 6: one is health injuries. They might still have the pitching

1884
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:30,599
Speaker 6: problems that they have. There are other worthy challengers out

1885
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 6: there the Dodgers. I mean sure, the Dodgers have an

1886
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 6: older roster as well this year. I mean, aside from

1887
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 6: that second basement they just got from South Korea, this

1888
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 6: is a fairly old team. This is not like the

1889
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 6: same group's going to be together for another five years.

1890
01:54:44,200 --> 01:54:45,440
Speaker 1: No, oh yeah, no it's not.

1891
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 4: They're striking while they can strike, which is what you're

1892
01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 4: supposed to do.

1893
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 2: The only thing that's different though, even the Yankees never

1894
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:53,600
Speaker 2: deferred like this.

1895
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 1: No one's ever done out before.

1896
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:56,640
Speaker 6: I'd never heard of it.

1897
01:54:57,800 --> 01:54:59,760
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know you scale.

1898
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 3: Now you can't. Now you do.

1899
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 1: Somebody didn't. I didn't know this was allowed.

1900
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 4: Somebody was combing that collective bargaining agreement with a fine

1901
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 4: tooth comb, and it was like, so, let.

1902
01:55:11,600 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 3: Me ask you this, So if we do this and

1903
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:14,400
Speaker 3: this and this, we can do this.

1904
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,440
Speaker 6: Tom Brady instead of saying I'll take less, should have

1905
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,880
Speaker 6: been saying I'll defer those years because I don't need

1906
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 6: the money now.

1907
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: Right right by the way, current roster total.

1908
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 2: Of deferrals equals over one point two billion dollars.

1909
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,760
Speaker 3: They win another World Series, it's all worth it.

1910
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 4: Oh, sure, just adding value. They just stacking value. That's

1911
01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 4: all they're doing. The stacking value.

1912
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 6: The Mets had the highest payroll last year and then

1913
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 6: bought one Soto on top.

1914
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, would New England be worth

1915
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 4: what it's worth without the Tom Brady and the titles.

1916
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 2: I can't, of course, not of course, not so of

1917
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:04,800
Speaker 2: course not no, And that goes that goes around sports.

1918
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 2: That's the same for the Warriors and Steph Curry and

1919
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 2: like I mean, that goes on and on. All right,

1920
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Championship Sunday is set. That's the great Steve de Seger

1921
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 2: eat from Salama, Mark Willard. We continue on Fox Sports Radio.

1922
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 2: All right, the is the Tyreck dot Com studios.

1923
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: Man.

1924
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: Twitter can be an unfortunate place. Uh, there is a

1925
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:34,080
Speaker 2: tweet that needs to be taken down that is circulating

1926
01:56:34,160 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 2: right now.

1927
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this.

1928
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't go on Twitter or x

1929
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 4: or whatever's going occasionally I do.

1930
01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was gonna say, I'll see you on there,

1931
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: but I got you.

1932
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Speaker 3: Yes.

1933
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 2: Six hours ago, the Baltimore Ravens official Twitter account posted

1934
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 2: a pregame run from the forty yard line.

1935
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:03,560
Speaker 1: To the line. Just a little warm up sprint from

1936
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews, who was.

1937
01:57:05,960 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 2: Wearing nothing but a tank top and shorts, shoes and gloves.

1938
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: Freezing cold out. There's a blizzard coming through and he's

1939
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 2: in a shorts and a tank top. So the Ravens

1940
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 2: Twitter account showed the video and wrote, a little snow

1941
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: doesn't bother Mark Andrews.

1942
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, immediately take it down people.

1943
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:38,560
Speaker 1: And it is. It has got one point four million impressions.

1944
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 3: You know, Philly fans weren't gonna let that go.

1945
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:58,120
Speaker 7: Oh my god, that was posted pregame and then what unfolded, unfolded, awful, terrible,

1946
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 7: robbed us of a of a tremendous overtime.

1947
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 1: The game might still be going, it might be.

1948
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 2: Oh so yep, And if you've been cruising around in

1949
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:18,520
Speaker 2: life doing something other than either listening to us or

1950
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 2: or watching the game. Andrews then fumbled in the fourth

1951
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:25,760
Speaker 2: quarter on what had the look of a drive to

1952
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:32,040
Speaker 2: potentially take the lead. And then on the game's final drive,

1953
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 2: the Ravens down eight, they go down, they score a touchdown,

1954
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 2: and on the two point conversion play, Andrews is by

1955
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:42,440
Speaker 2: himself at the goal line and Lamar just went and

1956
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,720
Speaker 2: hit him right there in the belly and.

1957
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:49,840
Speaker 1: He dropped it. And so the Bills go to Kansas

1958
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: City next week.

1959
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 3: Digging a hole.

1960
01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: It sounds to.

1961
01:58:57,320 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Me like you think the Chiefs are going to play

1962
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 2: the Commanders in the Super Bowl.

1963
01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:05,560
Speaker 1: Is that your pick?

1964
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:06,839
Speaker 3: I would love to see that.

1965
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 2: I know you would, But is that what you're saying

1966
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:16,640
Speaker 2: is gonna happen? Yes, Okay, I'll take the bills. I'm

1967
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 2: gonna take the bills and uh and and the commanders.

1968
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 3: I'm taking the chiefs and the refs.

1969
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 1: And that pretty good man.

1970
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:31,320
Speaker 2: And one of those you know, one of those games

1971
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 2: is gonna is gonna unfold during our show next week,

1972
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 2: So my man, I will talk to you then.

1973
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah for.

1974
01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,080
Speaker 2: You from Salamma. Mark Whelard keep it right here on

1975
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio