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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schreger. I'm smiling here as I'm

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Speaker 1: recording this because it's.

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Speaker 2: The last week of August.

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Speaker 1: We've got the NFL's regular season kickoff rapidly approaching, and

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Speaker 1: football is in the air. I'm joined by my wonderful producer,

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Speaker 1: mister Aaron wan Kaufman. Aaron, are you feeling the football

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Speaker 1: in the air right now?

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Speaker 2: Or is this just me?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm doing Good Morning Football and after three hours

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Speaker 1: and I see the light at the end of the

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Speaker 1: tunnel of talking about preseason football and cuts.

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Speaker 3: No, or I mean there was a huge weekend of

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Speaker 3: preseason games, some blowouts. I mean this was I'm getting

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Speaker 3: ready and like roster cuts are happening, and so you're

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Speaker 3: seeing getting a sense of who's going to be on

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Speaker 3: every team and who might be changing hands, like the

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Speaker 3: John Taylor News and so I'm very excited it is

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Speaker 3: it's starting.

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Speaker 1: I want to start today's podcast with a little riff

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Speaker 1: on the Jets. It's time now, like to put up

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Speaker 1: her shut up? And that's before the season even starts,

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Speaker 1: but this has been in my memory, the most dramatic

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Speaker 1: and positive and optimistic training camp in preseason. I can

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Speaker 1: remember covering the NFL for the New York Jets, usually

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Speaker 1: at Doom and Gloom franchise, And yet when they started

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Speaker 1: Rogers on a Saturday night game against the Giants and

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Speaker 1: the Snoopy Bowl at MetLife, and Rogers hits Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 1: on that touchdown and you actually see it all and

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Speaker 2: To think, like, what if the Jets actually do this thing?

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Speaker 1: And like what would that mean not only for New

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Speaker 1: and Long Island in all those areas, but like what.

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Speaker 2: Would that mean for the Jets franchise as a whole?

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Speaker 4: Like they have been the punchline, the joke, the pinata,

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Speaker 4: the punching bag, you name it for at least a decade,

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Speaker 4: and yet there they.

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Speaker 1: Were the ones, mind you Aaron going against the twos

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Speaker 1: from the Giants defense, and they moved the ball right

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Speaker 1: downfield and Rogers throws one of those perfect Rogers passes

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Speaker 1: back shoulder fade touchdown, and then I look at the

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Speaker 1: roster Aaron Rodgers is one of the best quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. He could still play football. Sauce Gardner won

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Speaker 1: NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Year and was an All

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Speaker 1: Pro in his first season at corner. Quinn Williams one

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Speaker 1: of the best defensive tackles and disruptors in all of football.

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Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson won NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year as

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, with Zach Wilson, Mike White, and Chris

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Speaker 1: Streveler throwing him passes last year. Bryce Hall's a stud.

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook is a four time Pro Bowler. Alan Lazard

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Speaker 1: Plus a really relied upon guy for Aaron Rodgers who

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Speaker 1: he brings with him from Green Bay. You go down

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Speaker 1: the roster of these players, I didn't mention CJ.

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Speaker 1: and it's like, it is kind of possible, and as

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Speaker 1: much fun as we've been having with this Jets hard

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, what if? What if the only thing that's going.

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Speaker 1: To stop the Jets, besides a difficult schedule and besides

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Speaker 1: the inexperience from a lot of these guys in big games,

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Speaker 1: is going to be that offensive line. I think the

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers top came about Makai Beckton.

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Speaker 2: Aaron, if you're not familiar, and I know some of

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Speaker 1: In the Jets blogs and the Reddit every day, Makai

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Speaker 1: Beckton was a top ten pick for the New York Jets,

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Speaker 2: He was swallowing.

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Speaker 1: People, he was protecting the quarterback, but also dominant in

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Speaker 1: And yet this offseason, every single day, McKai Beckton would

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Speaker 1: And you would hear stories out of the Jets camp

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Speaker 1: and I talked to the coaches that like, no, Becton's playing, well,

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Speaker 1: There's always a hint of hesitation of being like Becdon

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Speaker 1: this year when I talk to Jets' sources. However, he

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Speaker 1: is light years ahead right now as we head towards

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Speaker 1: the season as he was a year ago, and McKai

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Speaker 1: Beckton might be the most important young Jets player on

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Speaker 1: this roster of course, Rogers and Sala and Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 1: But if Beckden is good and Rogers is protected on

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Speaker 1: chance the Jets do fulfilled expectations. But the most important

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Speaker 1: SoundBite came from Rogers. I want you to listen to

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers talking about the much belagued fourth year offensive

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Speaker 5: I like MacKaye a lot. I think he's a guy that,

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Speaker 5: just like all of us, we all want to feel

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Speaker 5: He's a big, big teddy bear on the inside. So

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Speaker 5: I've been enjoying getting to know him. He's a fierce

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Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly what Mabel Kai Becton needs.

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Speaker 1: He needs love, he needs compassion. He's been beat up

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Speaker 2: Go do it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I still think of Becton as a twenty four year

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Speaker 2: And I'm hoping for him and if he can.

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Speaker 1: Beckton might be that most important piece that no one's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be watching this kid every game and I

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, as we talked about last week, is a

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Speaker 1: find like you gotta watch us, you gotta you know.

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Speaker 1: So I have the package with all the sports channels

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Speaker 1: I get on Pack twelve network. It's actually a pretty

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Speaker 2: Put it on. This kid's amazing.

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Speaker 1: He's amazing, And I'm trying to temper my expectations because

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I know I can work with that. I know that

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Speaker 1: And I talked to Cliff and he's like, comes from

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Speaker 2: He was at Oklahoma, now he's here.

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Speaker 1: He's already done the journey, and like, we're looking at

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Speaker 1: what might be the next great NFL quarterback. And he

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Speaker 2: Aaron.

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Speaker 1: We had on Jed Fish, coach of Arizona last week.

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Speaker 1: He and I have been texting ever since. Arizona plays

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Speaker 1: at USC October seventh. I'm praying it's not one of

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Speaker 1: those ten thirty ESPN games that like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I'm already asleep. I've got to be up at four

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Speaker 1: thirty the next morning. Put it in put it in writing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, I will be going to the coliseum to

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Speaker 1: see Caleb Williams Verus Jedfish's Arizona Wildcats.

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Speaker 2: Will you fly in and attend with me?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to travel.

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Speaker 3: Thank you you mean to do some arm wrestling today.

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Speaker 1: Mister Jason Gay Jason, Welcome to the season with Peter Scheger.

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Speaker 1: in New York, he's the biggest superstar.

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Speaker 2: We went to Europe last season.

436
00:20:16,346 --> 00:20:18,026
Speaker 1: It was he was out of the league at the time,

437
00:20:18,106 --> 00:20:20,426
Speaker 1: he didn't have a team, he was on the injured list,

438
00:20:20,946 --> 00:20:23,306
Speaker 1: and we went to Germany and I'm talking to a

439
00:20:23,346 --> 00:20:26,226
Speaker 1: German fan and I'm like, all right, so mahomes are Brady,

440
00:20:26,226 --> 00:20:28,106
Speaker 1: Who's the biggest star? And he looked at me, this

441
00:20:28,186 --> 00:20:31,666
Speaker 1: German football fan, and said Odell Beckham and I'm like,

442
00:20:31,706 --> 00:20:33,266
Speaker 1: Odell's not even on a team right now, Dude, He's

443
00:20:33,266 --> 00:20:35,866
Speaker 1: like Odell Beckham is the biggest star in Germany.

444
00:20:35,906 --> 00:20:39,066
Speaker 2: I'm like, why how he's like he's a sensation? Is

445
00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:40,066
Speaker 2: that how it feels?

446
00:20:40,466 --> 00:20:41,066
Speaker 6: I believe it.

447
00:20:41,186 --> 00:20:43,586
Speaker 7: Listen, you're also talking to a parent of a child

448
00:20:43,666 --> 00:20:46,106
Speaker 7: who went to Odell Beckham football.

449
00:20:45,666 --> 00:20:47,546
Speaker 6: Camp, Peter, about three weeks ago.

450
00:20:48,386 --> 00:20:50,786
Speaker 7: Standing room only. There were kids. I didn't know there

451
00:20:50,786 --> 00:20:53,586
Speaker 7: were this many kids in Greater Baltimore. I mean, every

452
00:20:53,706 --> 00:20:56,666
Speaker 7: kid in town seems signed up for this thing Odell.

453
00:20:56,746 --> 00:20:59,906
Speaker 7: As you know, in addition to sort of the obsessive

454
00:20:59,906 --> 00:21:02,826
Speaker 7: fan base of like adult NFL fans, he has all

455
00:21:02,866 --> 00:21:06,346
Speaker 7: the kids. The kids just love Odell, whether a combin,

456
00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:10,386
Speaker 7: the playing charisma, the hair, the whole thing. I think

457
00:21:10,386 --> 00:21:12,946
Speaker 7: there's a lot of excitement about it. I'm leaning on

458
00:21:12,986 --> 00:21:15,666
Speaker 7: the skeptical side myself, right because we haven't seen him

459
00:21:15,706 --> 00:21:18,106
Speaker 7: since that Super Bowl. We haven't seen him in a

460
00:21:18,106 --> 00:21:21,746
Speaker 7: consequential football game. You know, age is a killer on

461
00:21:22,026 --> 00:21:25,546
Speaker 7: you know, talent positions like his. But if you're talking

462
00:21:25,546 --> 00:21:27,706
Speaker 7: about somebody who could be an option, if you're talking

463
00:21:27,746 --> 00:21:30,426
Speaker 7: about putting him in an offense with Bateman, with flowers.

464
00:21:30,866 --> 00:21:32,666
Speaker 6: There's a lot of flowers exciting.

465
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a ton uh.

466
00:21:36,786 --> 00:21:38,266
Speaker 1: I just I've been trying to picture it in my

467
00:21:38,306 --> 00:21:40,746
Speaker 1: head like this, like high flying passing Ravens offense. I

468
00:21:40,786 --> 00:21:42,426
Speaker 1: just don't see it because I've never seen it before.

469
00:21:43,106 --> 00:21:46,186
Speaker 7: Well, the question is, of course, will be a protection question.

470
00:21:46,306 --> 00:21:49,306
Speaker 7: You can speak to this, I'm sure much more articulately

471
00:21:49,346 --> 00:21:49,786
Speaker 7: than I can.

472
00:21:49,906 --> 00:21:50,306
Speaker 6: But like.

473
00:21:52,146 --> 00:21:55,186
Speaker 7: You want Lamar to get all those reads right, You

474
00:21:55,226 --> 00:21:57,706
Speaker 7: want him to be able to make choices and not

475
00:21:57,786 --> 00:21:59,946
Speaker 7: be rushed and feel that he has to do something,

476
00:22:00,026 --> 00:22:03,346
Speaker 7: make magic himself, you know, be the kind of pocket

477
00:22:03,346 --> 00:22:05,706
Speaker 7: passer that he wants to be, and he's talked about

478
00:22:05,746 --> 00:22:07,666
Speaker 7: wanting to be and not just be his sort of

479
00:22:07,666 --> 00:22:11,946
Speaker 7: first option escape every time. If that kind of thing happens,

480
00:22:12,106 --> 00:22:14,706
Speaker 7: we should talk about the new offensive coordinator comes in

481
00:22:14,746 --> 00:22:18,986
Speaker 7: from Georgia. That's a big deal. Lamar seems really energized

482
00:22:18,986 --> 00:22:22,706
Speaker 7: about that. I mean, just again, look, it's late August.

483
00:22:23,066 --> 00:22:26,586
Speaker 7: It's everyone's got the upbeat energy in pretty much every camp.

484
00:22:27,226 --> 00:22:29,506
Speaker 6: But the vibes are good, all right.

485
00:22:29,586 --> 00:22:32,586
Speaker 1: So I miss you for a lot of reasons, but

486
00:22:32,626 --> 00:22:33,986
Speaker 1: one of them being I think you would have had

487
00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:36,666
Speaker 1: a blast with this Rogers stuff in New York and

488
00:22:36,706 --> 00:22:37,186
Speaker 1: you could.

489
00:22:36,986 --> 00:22:39,186
Speaker 2: Still have it writing from Baltimore and coming in.

490
00:22:39,226 --> 00:22:42,026
Speaker 1: But like, dude, there's such little things like when he

491
00:22:42,066 --> 00:22:44,466
Speaker 1: posts that he was with the cast of Chicago or

492
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Speaker 1: that he went and saw back to the future of

493
00:22:46,986 --> 00:22:49,226
Speaker 1: the musical. I'm like, this is Jason Gay's column, like

494
00:22:49,266 --> 00:22:51,586
Speaker 1: I'm writing it for like we need like you on

495
00:22:51,666 --> 00:22:54,346
Speaker 1: the ground here. What has been your impression from afar

496
00:22:54,426 --> 00:22:56,786
Speaker 1: even of the Rogers New York City marriage, And it's

497
00:22:56,826 --> 00:22:59,986
Speaker 1: been all good. And I've tell you, no one's penned

498
00:23:00,026 --> 00:23:01,786
Speaker 1: the Day in the Life with Aaron Rodgers yet. But

499
00:23:01,826 --> 00:23:04,146
Speaker 1: my gosh, I hope you get that assignment and just

500
00:23:04,146 --> 00:23:05,986
Speaker 1: get a chance to follow him around walking around So

501
00:23:06,066 --> 00:23:07,266
Speaker 1: how I Becca for a day?

502
00:23:07,906 --> 00:23:09,226
Speaker 6: I mean, Peter, you know this.

503
00:23:09,306 --> 00:23:12,186
Speaker 7: We're now old enough to know that we've seen versions

504
00:23:12,226 --> 00:23:15,506
Speaker 7: of this movie before. The Jets are sort of famous

505
00:23:15,506 --> 00:23:19,746
Speaker 7: for getting the kind of you know, late autumn superstar

506
00:23:19,986 --> 00:23:24,466
Speaker 7: arriving in town with ambitions of bringing Jets football back

507
00:23:24,506 --> 00:23:26,106
Speaker 7: to the promised land of nameath.

508
00:23:26,826 --> 00:23:28,186
Speaker 6: You know, quarterback position.

509
00:23:28,226 --> 00:23:32,186
Speaker 7: It's happened before other skill positions, but Rogers is a

510
00:23:32,186 --> 00:23:34,826
Speaker 7: cut above and as much as I kind of want

511
00:23:34,826 --> 00:23:37,506
Speaker 7: to rain on this hype, and boy, I mean it's

512
00:23:37,546 --> 00:23:39,986
Speaker 7: just hype and hype. I mean I was giving you

513
00:23:40,106 --> 00:23:42,626
Speaker 7: grief yesterday about the fact that, like, oh wow, I'm

514
00:23:42,626 --> 00:23:45,266
Speaker 7: glad someone's finally paying attention to the Jets in the preseason.

515
00:23:45,306 --> 00:23:48,626
Speaker 7: I feel like it's like one team and then thirty

516
00:23:48,626 --> 00:23:50,866
Speaker 7: one other teams. I mean, the way that this Jets

517
00:23:50,906 --> 00:23:53,066
Speaker 7: thing has just taken off, and like, you know, they

518
00:23:53,106 --> 00:23:57,386
Speaker 7: should raise the August World Championship banner, I think in

519
00:23:57,466 --> 00:24:01,586
Speaker 7: the opener, right, But so I want to just dump

520
00:24:01,586 --> 00:24:04,546
Speaker 7: on all over it. But you know this again much

521
00:24:04,586 --> 00:24:07,866
Speaker 7: better than I do that the heart hardest possible thing

522
00:24:08,186 --> 00:24:11,066
Speaker 7: in football is to just figure out that quarterback position.

523
00:24:11,226 --> 00:24:14,226
Speaker 7: And really, for the first time in a very long time,

524
00:24:14,306 --> 00:24:17,946
Speaker 7: you enter this season saying, there's a grown adult who

525
00:24:18,226 --> 00:24:21,706
Speaker 7: has this job, who's been here before. There's almost nothing

526
00:24:21,746 --> 00:24:23,506
Speaker 7: you can throw at him that he's not going to

527
00:24:23,626 --> 00:24:27,306
Speaker 7: have great deal of experience. He seems completely, you know,

528
00:24:27,386 --> 00:24:30,386
Speaker 7: revitalized in New York. I didn't know what to make

529
00:24:30,386 --> 00:24:32,826
Speaker 7: of that hype going in, but it definitely seems to

530
00:24:32,826 --> 00:24:36,186
Speaker 7: be a thing that he is good. Aaron Rodgers, right,

531
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Speaker 7: we haven't seen the Phantom of the opera version yet.

532
00:24:39,146 --> 00:24:41,306
Speaker 6: I mean, that could happen, but.

533
00:24:42,746 --> 00:24:45,026
Speaker 7: You know, and again that's a tough division, right, you know,

534
00:24:45,106 --> 00:24:47,266
Speaker 7: they are stacked the AFC East. That is a very

535
00:24:47,266 --> 00:24:50,066
Speaker 7: competitive division. They have two games against a lot of

536
00:24:50,146 --> 00:24:53,706
Speaker 7: quality opponents. But I don't know they have cracked the

537
00:24:53,746 --> 00:24:55,826
Speaker 7: one thing that is the hardest thing to crack. And

538
00:24:55,906 --> 00:24:57,706
Speaker 7: so as much as I want to be the big

539
00:24:57,826 --> 00:25:01,226
Speaker 7: rainclad here and mock the Jets, it's hard.

540
00:25:01,466 --> 00:25:01,706
Speaker 2: I know.

541
00:25:02,266 --> 00:25:04,226
Speaker 1: I look at you as a writer and your stuff

542
00:25:04,306 --> 00:25:05,946
Speaker 1: is different. You're not necessarily going to talk about the

543
00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:09,906
Speaker 1: x's and a year more about the lifestyle and you

544
00:25:09,906 --> 00:25:13,146
Speaker 1: know how sports incorporates into our daily lives, into culture,

545
00:25:13,266 --> 00:25:16,506
Speaker 1: Like what would be the article if you were to

546
00:25:16,546 --> 00:25:19,266
Speaker 1: follow around Rogers FORER day and he's like, here, Jason,

547
00:25:19,306 --> 00:25:21,266
Speaker 1: here are the keys. Take me around your New York

548
00:25:21,346 --> 00:25:23,906
Speaker 1: or take me around something cool culturally? Like what would

549
00:25:23,906 --> 00:25:26,506
Speaker 1: you show him? Because honestly, I spoke to him. He's

550
00:25:26,506 --> 00:25:28,466
Speaker 1: been to Broadway, he's been to a couple of Knicks games,

551
00:25:28,506 --> 00:25:31,106
Speaker 1: a couple of Rangers games. He went to Carbone, which

552
00:25:31,146 --> 00:25:34,066
Speaker 1: is like, you know it's yes, it's carbone, but there's

553
00:25:34,066 --> 00:25:35,346
Speaker 1: a carbone in Vegas, you.

554
00:25:35,266 --> 00:25:38,026
Speaker 7: Know, Yeah, well, I don't know if I'm giving away

555
00:25:38,066 --> 00:25:40,346
Speaker 7: any confidences here, but you spoke to him and that

556
00:25:40,426 --> 00:25:42,666
Speaker 7: was a big news making interview.

557
00:25:43,586 --> 00:25:45,266
Speaker 6: Is he living on the Jersey side or is he

558
00:25:45,306 --> 00:25:46,026
Speaker 6: living in the city.

559
00:25:46,106 --> 00:25:48,866
Speaker 1: He's living in Jersey. He's living I'll give you the

560
00:25:48,866 --> 00:25:51,186
Speaker 1: town because I think it's public now. He's living in Montclair,

561
00:25:51,266 --> 00:25:51,826
Speaker 1: New Jersey.

562
00:25:52,466 --> 00:25:54,746
Speaker 6: Oh, with the half of the reporters in the city.

563
00:25:54,826 --> 00:25:55,626
Speaker 6: That's hilarious.

564
00:25:55,706 --> 00:25:57,146
Speaker 2: Talk about the Montclair mafia.

565
00:25:57,186 --> 00:26:00,746
Speaker 1: You've got all I think it's like it's like Stephen Colbert, right, and.

566
00:26:00,706 --> 00:26:03,186
Speaker 2: Then who else You've got all these different journalists.

567
00:26:02,826 --> 00:26:06,146
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, Yeah, there's journalists for days in Montclair. That's

568
00:26:06,186 --> 00:26:06,866
Speaker 6: fair funny.

569
00:26:06,906 --> 00:26:08,626
Speaker 7: It's too bad he doesn't have kids, because you could

570
00:26:08,586 --> 00:26:13,146
Speaker 7: see him at school pickups and stuff like that. I mean, look,

571
00:26:14,226 --> 00:26:20,786
Speaker 7: he's a very eccentric, charismatic guy, obviously incredibly talented. You

572
00:26:20,906 --> 00:26:22,786
Speaker 7: want to see him sort of light up the town.

573
00:26:22,906 --> 00:26:25,546
Speaker 7: But do you right, It's like I feel like the

574
00:26:25,626 --> 00:26:29,146
Speaker 7: second things go south, you know, people will be harping

575
00:26:29,186 --> 00:26:31,306
Speaker 7: on him for that kind of thing if they go south.

576
00:26:31,346 --> 00:26:35,026
Speaker 6: That is so yeah. I mean the time to join

577
00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:38,666
Speaker 6: New York, to appreciate New York probably was the early

578
00:26:38,706 --> 00:26:39,146
Speaker 6: part of this.

579
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:41,266
Speaker 7: I mean, I believe after he signed he went to

580
00:26:41,306 --> 00:26:44,946
Speaker 7: every single Nixon Rangers game for about two or three weeks.

581
00:26:46,106 --> 00:26:47,386
Speaker 6: He was very active that way.

582
00:26:47,786 --> 00:26:50,506
Speaker 7: Again, what I find amusing, and I'm sure you do too,

583
00:26:51,026 --> 00:26:56,186
Speaker 7: is people in Green Bay are like, who's this guy?

584
00:26:56,226 --> 00:27:00,986
Speaker 2: What right?

585
00:27:01,066 --> 00:27:03,426
Speaker 7: I mean, because that was such an incredible psycho drama

586
00:27:03,466 --> 00:27:06,146
Speaker 7: the last bunch of seasons, and obviously, you know, it

587
00:27:06,186 --> 00:27:08,786
Speaker 7: was a pretty combative situation with the front office there.

588
00:27:08,946 --> 00:27:11,146
Speaker 6: They're like, who's this guy? And then the other thing.

589
00:27:11,706 --> 00:27:14,026
Speaker 7: Green Bay fans like to be snarky and say, call

590
00:27:14,146 --> 00:27:17,226
Speaker 7: us in November, you know, like like, let us know

591
00:27:17,266 --> 00:27:17,866
Speaker 7: how it's going.

592
00:27:18,986 --> 00:27:21,666
Speaker 6: We'll see. I mean, listen, I feel the Jets.

593
00:27:22,346 --> 00:27:25,026
Speaker 7: You know, they're this un you know, there's this frozen

594
00:27:25,186 --> 00:27:28,466
Speaker 7: cave man right lurking below the surface, and and and

595
00:27:29,106 --> 00:27:31,866
Speaker 7: you know, people are just so accustomed to it going south.

596
00:27:31,986 --> 00:27:35,186
Speaker 7: And were they to revitalize, were they to perform, even

597
00:27:35,226 --> 00:27:37,546
Speaker 7: if they were to just be playoff competitive, Peter, the

598
00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:40,866
Speaker 7: bar is low. This is not like Super Bowl or bust.

599
00:27:40,946 --> 00:27:42,386
Speaker 7: If the Jets were able to go in and win

600
00:27:42,426 --> 00:27:44,946
Speaker 7: a couple of playoff games, gosh, we have not seen

601
00:27:44,986 --> 00:27:47,106
Speaker 7: that since the rec th Ryan ma Ja Kaki stays

602
00:27:47,106 --> 00:27:47,786
Speaker 7: it's been a while.

603
00:27:48,026 --> 00:27:50,706
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So you're gonna be coming into New

604
00:27:50,746 --> 00:27:52,586
Speaker 1: York the next couple of weeks for the US Open.

605
00:27:52,626 --> 00:27:55,706
Speaker 1: I'm not looking to do a huge breakdown of Alcarez

606
00:27:55,906 --> 00:27:58,586
Speaker 1: or Cocoa golf. But what I would say is I

607
00:27:58,666 --> 00:28:01,626
Speaker 1: have questions about the US Open experience because I think

608
00:28:01,626 --> 00:28:03,626
Speaker 1: it's maybe the best two weeks of New York and

609
00:28:03,666 --> 00:28:04,986
Speaker 1: if you can get there, you've got to.

610
00:28:05,066 --> 00:28:06,826
Speaker 2: You'll be covering it for the Wall Street Nal as

611
00:28:06,826 --> 00:28:07,386
Speaker 2: you always do.

612
00:28:07,746 --> 00:28:11,146
Speaker 1: Writing about slice of life stuff, but also tracking it

613
00:28:11,186 --> 00:28:12,506
Speaker 1: as the tournament advances.

614
00:28:12,786 --> 00:28:14,106
Speaker 2: Where do the players stay?

615
00:28:14,986 --> 00:28:15,826
Speaker 6: They stay all over.

616
00:28:15,946 --> 00:28:18,186
Speaker 7: I mean you can stay as close as you know,

617
00:28:18,746 --> 00:28:20,786
Speaker 7: three blocks away at the Holiday Inn, Peter.

618
00:28:20,946 --> 00:28:22,706
Speaker 6: You know, I know you like that Queen Day in

619
00:28:22,786 --> 00:28:23,706
Speaker 6: the hotel.

620
00:28:25,586 --> 00:28:30,306
Speaker 7: Yeah, fantastic aquarium, you know, one of the great aquariums

621
00:28:30,306 --> 00:28:33,786
Speaker 7: in all of New York hoteling. Yeah, you can stay

622
00:28:33,826 --> 00:28:36,386
Speaker 7: all those places. Most of them stay in the city.

623
00:28:36,426 --> 00:28:39,466
Speaker 7: They have relationships, of course with some of the swankier hotels.

624
00:28:39,466 --> 00:28:42,266
Speaker 7: Depending on how fancy you are. You'll see it turn

625
00:28:42,386 --> 00:28:44,906
Speaker 7: up in a Instagram accounts, Peter. You know, when you

626
00:28:44,906 --> 00:28:48,146
Speaker 7: see the players saying like, what a wonderful stay at

627
00:28:48,146 --> 00:28:52,066
Speaker 7: the one hotel. You know, then you know something's going on.

628
00:28:52,946 --> 00:28:54,986
Speaker 7: But yeah, most of them. You know, you see those

629
00:28:54,986 --> 00:28:58,906
Speaker 7: courtesy cars, those Mercedes Benz courtesy cars all over the

630
00:28:58,946 --> 00:29:01,106
Speaker 7: city at this time of year in midtown, that's a

631
00:29:01,106 --> 00:29:04,266
Speaker 7: pretty good indicator that that's where the players are. I

632
00:29:04,306 --> 00:29:06,186
Speaker 7: always this is one of my favorite things about the

633
00:29:06,266 --> 00:29:07,106
Speaker 7: US Open, Peter.

634
00:29:09,186 --> 00:29:10,026
Speaker 6: They for years.

635
00:29:10,026 --> 00:29:11,306
Speaker 7: I don't know if they have it this year because

636
00:29:11,346 --> 00:29:13,146
Speaker 7: I haven't been up yet, but they have had a

637
00:29:13,466 --> 00:29:16,146
Speaker 7: free parking for Mercedes owners.

638
00:29:16,266 --> 00:29:19,026
Speaker 6: Okay, I know if you're I don't know if you're

639
00:29:19,066 --> 00:29:19,826
Speaker 6: a Mercedes.

640
00:29:20,186 --> 00:29:22,186
Speaker 2: We haven't quite made that movie yet.

641
00:29:22,226 --> 00:29:25,546
Speaker 7: Some time, maybe that's a reason to get one, Peter. Okay,

642
00:29:25,626 --> 00:29:27,786
Speaker 7: you sit there, you're like, we could get the Dotson

643
00:29:28,106 --> 00:29:32,066
Speaker 7: or we get the Mercedes free parking US Open.

644
00:29:32,186 --> 00:29:35,666
Speaker 6: Let's do this. But yeah, that's a real thing that

645
00:29:35,746 --> 00:29:37,106
Speaker 6: existed for quite a while.

646
00:29:38,186 --> 00:29:40,426
Speaker 7: I think it's one of the great, you know, sporting

647
00:29:40,466 --> 00:29:41,466
Speaker 7: experiences in New York City.

648
00:29:41,506 --> 00:29:42,626
Speaker 6: I agree with you entirely.

649
00:29:42,746 --> 00:29:44,426
Speaker 7: I think one of the things that makes the US

650
00:29:44,466 --> 00:29:46,866
Speaker 7: Open phenomenal is that there's a lot to see, you know,

651
00:29:46,986 --> 00:29:49,146
Speaker 7: especially if you go in the first week of the tournament,

652
00:29:49,186 --> 00:29:52,066
Speaker 7: when more and more seeds are still active in the tournament,

653
00:29:52,146 --> 00:29:54,786
Speaker 7: still competing. You can go there and watch at any

654
00:29:54,826 --> 00:29:56,746
Speaker 7: given moment a dozen matches.

655
00:29:56,866 --> 00:29:57,066
Speaker 6: You know.

656
00:29:57,146 --> 00:30:00,986
Speaker 7: You can watch it from you know, singles to doubles, women's, men's,

657
00:30:01,506 --> 00:30:05,866
Speaker 7: wheelchair tennis, junior tennis, all kinds of competitive events all

658
00:30:05,906 --> 00:30:08,186
Speaker 7: over the place. You don't have to start. It's just

659
00:30:08,226 --> 00:30:11,186
Speaker 7: as you know, for a tennis person, it's like Comic Con.

660
00:30:11,546 --> 00:30:14,066
Speaker 7: For somebody who is just sort of like a casual fan,

661
00:30:14,306 --> 00:30:15,506
Speaker 7: you know, wants an experience.

662
00:30:16,186 --> 00:30:17,666
Speaker 6: Good food, you know.

663
00:30:17,666 --> 00:30:21,306
Speaker 7: Really good food, lots of booze, lots of places to

664
00:30:21,346 --> 00:30:23,186
Speaker 7: hang out. You know, it can get a little hot

665
00:30:23,226 --> 00:30:25,586
Speaker 7: around there, but there's shade, there's places you can go

666
00:30:25,626 --> 00:30:28,786
Speaker 7: and get out of the sun. It's pretty special and

667
00:30:29,106 --> 00:30:32,026
Speaker 7: you get around of your crowd then you get at

668
00:30:32,066 --> 00:30:34,346
Speaker 7: other Grand Slam events. I think part of it is

669
00:30:34,706 --> 00:30:37,826
Speaker 7: the booze. Part of it also is the night tennis.

670
00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:40,986
Speaker 7: You know, that's the sort of big New York aspect

671
00:30:41,026 --> 00:30:43,466
Speaker 7: of this, that these players will be out there sometimes

672
00:30:43,746 --> 00:30:46,746
Speaker 7: you know, past midnight, playing sometimes deep into the morning.

673
00:30:47,866 --> 00:30:51,266
Speaker 7: And that's a really bizarre, unique experience as well, and

674
00:30:51,266 --> 00:30:51,986
Speaker 7: people love that.

675
00:30:52,306 --> 00:30:54,146
Speaker 1: I think you'd be happy to know that Eric and

676
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:57,706
Speaker 1: I got married. And the specialty cocktail at her drink

677
00:30:57,826 --> 00:31:00,826
Speaker 1: was the Honey Deuce, which is really which is the

678
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:02,866
Speaker 1: drink that they serve at the US Open.

679
00:31:02,946 --> 00:31:06,506
Speaker 2: It's Greg Goose vodka. It's too melon ball.

680
00:31:06,506 --> 00:31:09,426
Speaker 1: And then it's a bunch of sugar and it's delicious.

681
00:31:09,746 --> 00:31:11,266
Speaker 6: Yes, you could keepuch sugar.

682
00:31:11,306 --> 00:31:13,506
Speaker 7: You could keep the cup right, right, right right, and

683
00:31:13,746 --> 00:31:17,226
Speaker 7: and you keep the cup. I believe the price is

684
00:31:17,306 --> 00:31:20,666
Speaker 7: north of twenty dollars at the US Open now, and

685
00:31:20,706 --> 00:31:23,026
Speaker 7: if you have four of them, you will likely be

686
00:31:23,066 --> 00:31:25,866
Speaker 7: thrown out of the event because you'll be screaming at

687
00:31:25,906 --> 00:31:29,186
Speaker 7: the players to you know, pick up the base.

688
00:31:29,386 --> 00:31:30,466
Speaker 2: Real quick tennis stuff.

689
00:31:30,466 --> 00:31:33,746
Speaker 1: We saw the al KaAZ Djokovic final, those two and

690
00:31:33,746 --> 00:31:36,426
Speaker 1: then everybody else are is there another player you're watching

691
00:31:36,466 --> 00:31:37,626
Speaker 1: on the men's side.

692
00:31:37,866 --> 00:31:38,346
Speaker 6: I think so.

693
00:31:38,466 --> 00:31:40,506
Speaker 7: I mean, Carlos has been you know a little bit

694
00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:43,066
Speaker 7: up and down since Wimbledon, even though he won a tournament,

695
00:31:43,106 --> 00:31:46,426
Speaker 7: even though he's been active, he has you know, been

696
00:31:46,466 --> 00:31:49,106
Speaker 7: playing a little bit radically. He went through Cincinnati, you know,

697
00:31:49,226 --> 00:31:52,146
Speaker 7: going three sets and everybody had a spectacular final guesst Jokovic,

698
00:31:52,306 --> 00:31:54,266
Speaker 7: which he had match points to win. Didn't get it,

699
00:31:55,106 --> 00:31:58,666
Speaker 7: but that's the match everybody wants to see, because this

700
00:31:58,706 --> 00:32:01,706
Speaker 7: is the thing, Peter. Everyone expected men's tennis to be

701
00:32:01,906 --> 00:32:04,466
Speaker 7: like done, Oh my god, what are we're gonna do here?

702
00:32:04,586 --> 00:32:06,826
Speaker 6: Right? Right right? And it's all sudden.

703
00:32:07,226 --> 00:32:09,866
Speaker 7: It's like, I don't know, to give it a football analogy,

704
00:32:09,906 --> 00:32:12,706
Speaker 7: it's like drafting Joe Burrow on the heels of Tom Brady.

705
00:32:12,746 --> 00:32:15,666
Speaker 7: It's like you have this person coming in who might

706
00:32:15,746 --> 00:32:18,786
Speaker 7: redefine the sport altogether right on the heels and actually

707
00:32:18,826 --> 00:32:22,186
Speaker 7: being able to play against arguably the goat in tennis.

708
00:32:22,226 --> 00:32:23,746
Speaker 6: That's a really neat thing to witness.

709
00:32:23,826 --> 00:32:26,826
Speaker 7: Djokovic actually seems very motivated by this because all of

710
00:32:26,866 --> 00:32:29,626
Speaker 7: a sudden he's got this y nemesis.

711
00:32:29,666 --> 00:32:32,226
Speaker 6: And Carlos is just super likable too.

712
00:32:32,266 --> 00:32:33,626
Speaker 7: I don't know if you've gotten a chance to sort

713
00:32:33,626 --> 00:32:35,706
Speaker 7: of see him in interviews toes or his body demeanor.

714
00:32:35,746 --> 00:32:39,706
Speaker 7: I mean, just like guys excited, you know, loves playing tennis.

715
00:32:40,226 --> 00:32:42,866
Speaker 7: Is a happy, go lucky guy, and it just comes

716
00:32:42,906 --> 00:32:44,866
Speaker 7: out in the experience of watching him. I mean, he's

717
00:32:45,106 --> 00:32:48,826
Speaker 7: that's her rare category already at age twenty of like

718
00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:50,346
Speaker 7: he just pops off the screen.

719
00:32:50,426 --> 00:32:50,586
Speaker 6: You know.

720
00:32:50,626 --> 00:32:52,706
Speaker 7: Our favorite kind of athletes, Peter As, you know, are

721
00:32:52,746 --> 00:32:54,666
Speaker 7: those ones that like you don't have to know the

722
00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:56,866
Speaker 7: sport to be like, who's that? You know, I want

723
00:32:56,866 --> 00:32:59,746
Speaker 7: to know everything about that person, and he plays that way.

724
00:33:00,066 --> 00:33:03,666
Speaker 1: Your best celebrity encounter at a US open go.

725
00:33:06,626 --> 00:33:11,586
Speaker 7: I actually remember seeing somebody at the absolute apex of Hamilton,

726
00:33:11,666 --> 00:33:14,826
Speaker 7: seeing lin Manuel Miranda like scarrying for a seat and

727
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:16,786
Speaker 7: being like, oh my gosh. And he had the whole

728
00:33:16,826 --> 00:33:18,546
Speaker 7: like ponytail thing, like he.

729
00:33:18,586 --> 00:33:21,346
Speaker 6: Looked like he had just come from Hamilton.

730
00:33:21,386 --> 00:33:24,986
Speaker 7: He wasn't in like, you know, colonial gear, but like, yeah,

731
00:33:25,026 --> 00:33:26,986
Speaker 7: that was pretty neat to see. I mean, there have

732
00:33:26,986 --> 00:33:29,586
Speaker 7: been some pretty great ones. Pretty much everybody who's anybody

733
00:33:29,746 --> 00:33:31,306
Speaker 7: comes through that event at some point.

734
00:33:31,346 --> 00:33:32,786
Speaker 6: It's such a CNSB seen thing.

735
00:33:33,906 --> 00:33:37,146
Speaker 7: Andy Murray had a very interesting super fan for a

736
00:33:37,226 --> 00:33:38,826
Speaker 7: very long time, Sean Connery.

737
00:33:38,986 --> 00:33:40,986
Speaker 6: So super Connery.

738
00:33:41,026 --> 00:33:42,626
Speaker 2: From the same town, I know, I don't think so

739
00:33:42,866 --> 00:33:43,746
Speaker 2: there were Scotts.

740
00:33:43,746 --> 00:33:47,106
Speaker 7: They're both Scotts, and so he was a super fan

741
00:33:47,146 --> 00:33:51,186
Speaker 7: of Anny Murray and Sean Connery. Not a very showy celebrity,

742
00:33:51,306 --> 00:33:54,386
Speaker 7: like you would have pulled down very low, you know,

743
00:33:54,466 --> 00:33:57,026
Speaker 7: that kind of thing, but Yeah, everybody comes through there.

744
00:33:57,066 --> 00:33:58,786
Speaker 7: I just did a Carlos piece in which I talked

745
00:33:58,786 --> 00:34:02,306
Speaker 7: to Jimmy Butler for this. So Carlos is big super fan.

746
00:34:02,426 --> 00:34:03,306
Speaker 7: Is Jimmy Butler?

747
00:34:03,426 --> 00:34:03,626
Speaker 1: What?

748
00:34:04,466 --> 00:34:05,146
Speaker 6: Yeah?

749
00:34:04,946 --> 00:34:07,026
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's just Jimmy.

750
00:34:07,066 --> 00:34:09,546
Speaker 7: Jimmy's a huge tennis guy, been a tennis guy for

751
00:34:09,586 --> 00:34:11,746
Speaker 7: a long time. Actually did an event at the US

752
00:34:11,786 --> 00:34:13,666
Speaker 7: Open a couple of days ago with Carlos where they

753
00:34:13,746 --> 00:34:17,426
Speaker 7: hit around a little bit. Jimmy's a serious tennis guy,

754
00:34:17,866 --> 00:34:20,666
Speaker 7: you know. He's an international dude. When I talked to

755
00:34:20,706 --> 00:34:22,946
Speaker 7: him about Carlos, you already said to me, Peter said,

756
00:34:23,506 --> 00:34:26,346
Speaker 7: I actually should be doing this in Spanish with you,

757
00:34:26,466 --> 00:34:28,426
Speaker 7: but I'm going to assume you don't speak Spanish, so

758
00:34:28,746 --> 00:34:29,826
Speaker 7: we'll just do this in English.

759
00:34:30,066 --> 00:34:31,626
Speaker 6: Okay, you got me on this.

760
00:34:31,866 --> 00:34:36,386
Speaker 7: But he's a major Carlos super fan. Uh but yeah, listen,

761
00:34:36,586 --> 00:34:40,706
Speaker 7: I mean name it. Last night, Michelle and Barack Obama

762
00:34:40,786 --> 00:34:43,746
Speaker 7: in the audience to watch Cocoa golf and Novak.

763
00:34:43,466 --> 00:34:45,426
Speaker 6: Djokovic, So they really draw him in there.

764
00:34:45,466 --> 00:34:48,866
Speaker 7: Peter, and I should say, Peter Trigger shows up occasionally.

765
00:34:49,986 --> 00:34:53,386
Speaker 2: I'm there. I'll never forget are you box only or

766
00:34:53,386 --> 00:34:55,466
Speaker 2: are you been in a box? And there have been

767
00:34:55,506 --> 00:34:55,986
Speaker 2: in a box.

768
00:34:56,106 --> 00:34:57,826
Speaker 1: I go, I get the I get I buy my

769
00:34:57,826 --> 00:34:59,666
Speaker 1: own seats. I've never covered it as a journalist.

770
00:34:59,666 --> 00:35:00,266
Speaker 2: I just have to go.

771
00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:01,986
Speaker 1: I like going during the day session. I'll leave good

772
00:35:01,986 --> 00:35:04,986
Speaker 1: Morning Football, and I'll take this. I actually take this

773
00:35:05,026 --> 00:35:05,866
Speaker 1: is a nice little hack.

774
00:35:05,906 --> 00:35:07,066
Speaker 2: If you're listening in New York.

775
00:35:07,426 --> 00:35:10,346
Speaker 1: Don't take the subway because it takes forever. Take the

776
00:35:10,546 --> 00:35:14,866
Speaker 1: Long Island railroad to Metz Willett's point. It's a much

777
00:35:14,906 --> 00:35:19,626
Speaker 1: more luxurious trip on the train. Instead, get off and

778
00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:21,706
Speaker 1: it's probably won every hour, and then you just get

779
00:35:21,746 --> 00:35:23,466
Speaker 1: jepped off at where City Field is and you walk

780
00:35:23,506 --> 00:35:24,466
Speaker 1: right over to the stadium.

781
00:35:24,466 --> 00:35:27,146
Speaker 2: But i will go. I'm thinking I'm gonna go Labor Day.

782
00:35:27,146 --> 00:35:29,546
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my son, and I think we're gonna

783
00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:31,706
Speaker 1: go and we're gonna check it out. But I'll never forget.

784
00:35:31,986 --> 00:35:34,826
Speaker 1: Probably like ten years ago, I'm sitting there and we

785
00:35:34,906 --> 00:35:38,426
Speaker 1: went on maybe the Friday before the finals. It was

786
00:35:38,466 --> 00:35:40,906
Speaker 1: like back then, it was like not Super Saturday, but

787
00:35:40,946 --> 00:35:44,226
Speaker 1: the Friday was awesome. You would get the women's semis

788
00:35:44,466 --> 00:35:47,386
Speaker 1: and then like the doubles finals and it was women's

789
00:35:47,386 --> 00:35:51,746
Speaker 1: semis and it was an incredible, incredible match between like

790
00:35:51,866 --> 00:35:54,826
Speaker 1: Serena and I forget who she was against at the time,

791
00:35:54,906 --> 00:35:56,306
Speaker 1: might have been Sloma.

792
00:35:55,826 --> 00:35:59,786
Speaker 2: What's his name? Hallip? What was her name? Might have

793
00:35:59,786 --> 00:36:00,026
Speaker 2: been that.

794
00:36:00,386 --> 00:36:02,146
Speaker 1: And there was a woman in front of me, and

795
00:36:02,186 --> 00:36:04,466
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is the most beautiful woman I've ever seen.

796
00:36:04,506 --> 00:36:06,946
Speaker 1: She's six foot ten, she looks like she's got a

797
00:36:06,986 --> 00:36:08,866
Speaker 1: hair of it. And she turns around and she's like,

798
00:36:09,106 --> 00:36:11,146
Speaker 1: are those good? And she was pointing at the drink

799
00:36:11,146 --> 00:36:12,826
Speaker 1: I was drinking, which happened to be the Honeyduce, and

800
00:36:12,826 --> 00:36:16,226
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's Shirlie's Farron, just sitting there

801
00:36:16,626 --> 00:36:20,066
Speaker 1: with the with the with the sweaty masses of fools

802
00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:20,666
Speaker 1: out there.

803
00:36:20,466 --> 00:36:22,106
Speaker 2: And it was the coolest thing. And I'm like, that's

804
00:36:22,146 --> 00:36:23,266
Speaker 2: the US opening a nutshell.

805
00:36:23,466 --> 00:36:25,226
Speaker 7: Did you say that to Erica when you guys had

806
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:28,386
Speaker 7: your wedding planning, You're like, this is Shirlie's Urn's favorite drink.

807
00:36:30,066 --> 00:36:31,786
Speaker 2: Eric's like, what is with this Honeyduce? It's like, no, no,

808
00:36:31,866 --> 00:36:33,106
Speaker 2: we have to do it for our wedding.

809
00:36:33,626 --> 00:36:37,506
Speaker 1: Why it has no connection to the two of us.

810
00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:39,066
Speaker 6: We must do it.

811
00:36:42,306 --> 00:36:44,666
Speaker 1: All right, here's the exercise we're gonna do because season

812
00:36:44,706 --> 00:36:48,146
Speaker 1: starts next week. And I think you're one of the

813
00:36:48,146 --> 00:36:50,306
Speaker 1: great profile writers of all time.

814
00:36:50,346 --> 00:36:50,866
Speaker 2: And I mean that.

815
00:36:51,026 --> 00:36:53,306
Speaker 1: And this is like you're like, Okay, don't make me

816
00:36:53,346 --> 00:36:55,426
Speaker 1: blush with Frank the Ford and Gary Smith and all

817
00:36:55,466 --> 00:36:55,906
Speaker 1: these guys.

818
00:36:55,906 --> 00:36:57,506
Speaker 2: But for a while there, when like.

819
00:36:57,506 --> 00:37:00,706
Speaker 1: Jason Gay did a big profile and a player or

820
00:37:00,746 --> 00:37:03,266
Speaker 1: an athlete or an owner, I'm like, I'm reading it

821
00:37:03,306 --> 00:37:05,906
Speaker 1: no matter what. And I'd say probably ten fifteen years ago,

822
00:37:06,106 --> 00:37:09,626
Speaker 1: magazines had these giant budgets and they would give you

823
00:37:10,066 --> 00:37:12,506
Speaker 1: an X amount of dollars and say, go spend a

824
00:37:12,586 --> 00:37:15,346
Speaker 1: week with this player, or go spend a week with

825
00:37:15,466 --> 00:37:18,986
Speaker 1: this celebrity, and go write this amazing profile and it'll

826
00:37:18,986 --> 00:37:21,906
Speaker 1: be in a cover of whether it be Vogue or

827
00:37:21,946 --> 00:37:24,386
Speaker 1: it be Vanity Fair in your case, GQ or The

828
00:37:24,386 --> 00:37:27,826
Speaker 1: New York Observer, whatever it was. Here's the exercise we're

829
00:37:27,826 --> 00:37:30,986
Speaker 1: going to do. There are so many personalities in football

830
00:37:31,026 --> 00:37:33,026
Speaker 1: right now, and it's players, it's coaches.

831
00:37:32,666 --> 00:37:33,266
Speaker 2: It's owners.

832
00:37:33,706 --> 00:37:37,186
Speaker 1: We're going to do a draft, a fantasy draft, and

833
00:37:37,826 --> 00:37:41,106
Speaker 1: I am the editor and you are the writer, and

834
00:37:41,146 --> 00:37:44,106
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a giant budget and a

835
00:37:44,226 --> 00:37:47,626
Speaker 1: one week deadline to spend as much time as you

836
00:37:47,706 --> 00:37:51,586
Speaker 1: need unfiltered with this athlete or this coach or this owner,

837
00:37:51,626 --> 00:37:53,426
Speaker 1: this person out of the NFL, and we're going to

838
00:37:53,466 --> 00:37:56,146
Speaker 1: do a draft three players or owners or whoever's each

839
00:37:56,586 --> 00:37:59,146
Speaker 1: and we're going to do who we would pick if

840
00:37:59,186 --> 00:38:01,706
Speaker 1: we could do a celebrity profile on anybody, and do

841
00:38:01,786 --> 00:38:05,666
Speaker 1: it old school GQ magazine style, back in the day

842
00:38:05,706 --> 00:38:08,346
Speaker 1: when they would spend unlimited amounts of money just to

843
00:38:08,386 --> 00:38:11,706
Speaker 1: get the best photos and the best articles written. That's

844
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:13,946
Speaker 1: the build up, Jason Gayer, first on the clock. The

845
00:38:14,066 --> 00:38:16,586
Speaker 1: first figure in our NFL world that you would want

846
00:38:16,586 --> 00:38:18,626
Speaker 1: to do a giant profile on is whom.

847
00:38:19,146 --> 00:38:21,706
Speaker 7: Okay, well, I'm going to be a huge homer here

848
00:38:22,666 --> 00:38:25,226
Speaker 7: and I'm going to take somebody who has been profiled,

849
00:38:25,306 --> 00:38:27,386
Speaker 7: you know, quite well in other places.

850
00:38:27,386 --> 00:38:29,386
Speaker 6: But you know, I would love to get my whack

851
00:38:29,426 --> 00:38:29,626
Speaker 6: at it.

852
00:38:29,706 --> 00:38:31,426
Speaker 7: I had an opportunity to speak to him last year,

853
00:38:31,426 --> 00:38:33,106
Speaker 7: but I'd love to get a lot of time with him,

854
00:38:33,786 --> 00:38:34,466
Speaker 7: the one and only.

855
00:38:34,586 --> 00:38:36,826
Speaker 6: Justin Tucker, I thought.

856
00:38:36,586 --> 00:38:37,786
Speaker 2: You were going somewhere else.

857
00:38:40,346 --> 00:38:42,866
Speaker 1: Do not expect the kicker, did not expect to the

858
00:38:42,906 --> 00:38:45,226
Speaker 1: first overall pick being an undrafted kicker.

859
00:38:45,266 --> 00:38:47,706
Speaker 6: Go on, he's the goat. I mean, Peter.

860
00:38:48,026 --> 00:38:50,866
Speaker 7: We can say this can we I mean, you're the

861
00:38:50,906 --> 00:38:53,866
Speaker 7: football expert here. Is he a goat among us already?

862
00:38:53,986 --> 00:38:54,706
Speaker 7: Is that clear?

863
00:38:54,986 --> 00:38:57,066
Speaker 2: Yes, he's the greatest kicker to ever kick a football.

864
00:38:57,106 --> 00:38:57,826
Speaker 2: There's no doubt.

865
00:38:58,066 --> 00:39:00,066
Speaker 1: Vine Terry might have more rings, But you're talking you

866
00:39:00,066 --> 00:39:01,106
Speaker 1: need one kick to win a game.

867
00:39:01,226 --> 00:39:01,906
Speaker 2: Justin Tucker's the.

868
00:39:01,866 --> 00:39:04,986
Speaker 7: Guy and talking to him, I'm going to make a

869
00:39:05,186 --> 00:39:07,426
Speaker 7: terrible analogy, but like he's like sort of like a

870
00:39:07,586 --> 00:39:12,306
Speaker 7: quantum physicist. I mean, he is somebody who does not

871
00:39:12,426 --> 00:39:16,066
Speaker 7: look at kicking as this hysterile, repetitive act. That looks

872
00:39:16,106 --> 00:39:19,466
Speaker 7: at it from so many incredible variables and just to

873
00:39:19,546 --> 00:39:23,546
Speaker 7: hear his brain operate around the way you kick the

874
00:39:23,866 --> 00:39:26,426
Speaker 7: all the things he can alter, the fact that he

875
00:39:26,506 --> 00:39:29,106
Speaker 7: feels he can always get better, which is sort of

876
00:39:29,146 --> 00:39:32,066
Speaker 7: an obsessive quality that I love. And also the fact

877
00:39:32,066 --> 00:39:34,906
Speaker 7: that he's rich as hell for doing this one thing.

878
00:39:35,026 --> 00:39:38,586
Speaker 7: Peter Right, It's like and he has just pinnacle respect.

879
00:39:39,186 --> 00:39:43,306
Speaker 7: Nobody sweats him, like he just occupies this airspace. I mean,

880
00:39:43,306 --> 00:39:45,386
Speaker 7: I always think of the kicker as like the first

881
00:39:45,466 --> 00:39:48,586
Speaker 7: person pushed off the bus on the football team, right always,

882
00:39:49,506 --> 00:39:51,386
Speaker 7: but he could make the cases.

883
00:39:51,066 --> 00:39:53,946
Speaker 6: He's the last guy, right, I mean with the Ravens.

884
00:39:53,986 --> 00:39:56,746
Speaker 7: I mean, and then you know that stadium is in

885
00:39:56,786 --> 00:39:59,266
Speaker 7: a part of town where like it's near the water,

886
00:39:59,666 --> 00:40:01,746
Speaker 7: like it's if you're going to be kicking like sixty

887
00:40:01,786 --> 00:40:03,786
Speaker 7: two yard field goals, you would not put a stadium

888
00:40:03,866 --> 00:40:07,546
Speaker 7: right now, right. I just think he be a fascinating dude.

889
00:40:07,666 --> 00:40:10,466
Speaker 7: And and you know, I think the relationship between a

890
00:40:10,626 --> 00:40:14,106
Speaker 7: kicker and a city. I wrote this in the Journal

891
00:40:14,146 --> 00:40:16,706
Speaker 7: last year when I talked to him about like how

892
00:40:16,706 --> 00:40:18,866
Speaker 7: many towns, Peter do you go to?

893
00:40:18,906 --> 00:40:18,946
Speaker 3: It?

894
00:40:18,986 --> 00:40:20,986
Speaker 6: I'm asking of you, where.

895
00:40:20,786 --> 00:40:24,946
Speaker 7: You see the kicker jersey in high quantity? Is there

896
00:40:24,986 --> 00:40:27,946
Speaker 7: any other city besides Tucker? It's just Tucker, that's it.

897
00:40:27,986 --> 00:40:32,706
Speaker 7: He's number three. By the way, it's Lamar Andrews Tucker.

898
00:40:32,826 --> 00:40:33,906
Speaker 7: I got that from the Ravens.

899
00:40:33,906 --> 00:40:34,026
Speaker 6: Now.

900
00:40:34,026 --> 00:40:38,066
Speaker 7: I'm sure Odell's up there now. Yeah, but last year

901
00:40:38,186 --> 00:40:41,466
Speaker 7: it was, yeah, it was it was Lamar Andrews and Tucker.

902
00:40:41,506 --> 00:40:44,226
Speaker 7: In terms of jerseys, he just I mean, there's been

903
00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:46,306
Speaker 7: nobody like him, and so I think all that territory

904
00:40:46,306 --> 00:40:47,066
Speaker 7: would be really cool.

905
00:40:47,226 --> 00:40:50,346
Speaker 1: That's really interesting because he is the best at what

906
00:40:50,466 --> 00:40:53,786
Speaker 1: he does and it's of all time, and he does

907
00:40:53,906 --> 00:40:56,306
Speaker 1: look and act as if he's just a normal guy too.

908
00:40:56,306 --> 00:40:57,706
Speaker 2: Obviously, I've met him and you've met him.

909
00:40:57,706 --> 00:41:00,026
Speaker 1: He has the opera stuff, which has been done a

910
00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:02,786
Speaker 1: million times, but just from a pure athleticism standpoint, what

911
00:41:02,866 --> 00:41:04,586
Speaker 1: he does, he's the greatest at his craft to ever

912
00:41:04,586 --> 00:41:05,786
Speaker 1: do it, which is pretty incredible.

913
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:10,346
Speaker 7: He walks around as a normal human in society. He

914
00:41:10,386 --> 00:41:14,346
Speaker 7: does not stand out physically. He does not like you know,

915
00:41:14,386 --> 00:41:17,186
Speaker 7: he's not sort of a booming, charismatic crazy guy. I mean,

916
00:41:17,226 --> 00:41:19,586
Speaker 7: he definitely has his eccentricities, as we alluded to, but

917
00:41:19,666 --> 00:41:21,706
Speaker 7: like he's definitely I mean, I just feel like there's

918
00:41:21,786 --> 00:41:22,146
Speaker 7: lots of.

919
00:41:22,106 --> 00:41:25,786
Speaker 6: Two on there. Another one, Okay, this one is a

920
00:41:25,786 --> 00:41:27,186
Speaker 6: little bit more serious.

921
00:41:26,826 --> 00:41:28,426
Speaker 2: And so wait, do I get to pick? I want

922
00:41:28,426 --> 00:41:28,666
Speaker 2: to pick?

923
00:41:28,706 --> 00:41:31,106
Speaker 6: Let's we're going back and forth. Oh it's a snake

924
00:41:31,266 --> 00:41:32,066
Speaker 6: it's not a snake draft.

925
00:41:32,106 --> 00:41:34,066
Speaker 2: Okay, just a regular draft. I'm gonna go. So you're

926
00:41:34,306 --> 00:41:35,226
Speaker 2: justin Tucker's off the board.

927
00:41:35,226 --> 00:41:36,546
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you one that I thought you

928
00:41:36,586 --> 00:41:39,666
Speaker 1: were going with, pretty obvious, and yet I don't think

929
00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:44,746
Speaker 1: the comprehensive post retirement piece has been done.

930
00:41:44,826 --> 00:41:46,466
Speaker 2: I want to I want a week with Brady.

931
00:41:46,586 --> 00:41:48,066
Speaker 1: I want to know what the hell's going on and

932
00:41:48,146 --> 00:41:49,666
Speaker 1: I want to know what's going on through his head

933
00:41:49,746 --> 00:41:52,066
Speaker 1: and what his life's like, and what it's like for

934
00:41:52,106 --> 00:41:54,426
Speaker 1: the first time in twenty something years to not be

935
00:41:54,466 --> 00:41:55,186
Speaker 1: playing football.

936
00:41:55,226 --> 00:41:57,786
Speaker 2: I saw him on TV that he's now.

937
00:41:57,866 --> 00:42:00,746
Speaker 1: He's like at the Vegas preseason game, and he's sort

938
00:42:00,786 --> 00:42:02,706
Speaker 1: of there as a minority owner, but he's also sort

939
00:42:02,746 --> 00:42:02,986
Speaker 1: of there.

940
00:42:02,986 --> 00:42:04,866
Speaker 2: It's like Tom Brady celebrity.

941
00:42:05,026 --> 00:42:07,906
Speaker 1: And I know he's supposed to take over the Fox

942
00:42:07,986 --> 00:42:10,706
Speaker 1: gig next year all intentions, it seems like he is.

943
00:42:10,746 --> 00:42:14,626
Speaker 2: But this year, this moment in time, tom Brady out.

944
00:42:14,546 --> 00:42:16,906
Speaker 1: Of football as a player, before he goes into being

945
00:42:16,906 --> 00:42:21,186
Speaker 1: a broadcaster, post divorce, pre whatever.

946
00:42:21,226 --> 00:42:25,186
Speaker 2: This next chapter is like, I am fascinated.

947
00:42:24,546 --> 00:42:26,666
Speaker 1: At what's going on with Brady, and it could go

948
00:42:26,866 --> 00:42:28,506
Speaker 1: a lot of different directions too. I don't think this

949
00:42:28,546 --> 00:42:31,706
Speaker 1: would be one of those glory you know, filled like

950
00:42:31,906 --> 00:42:34,626
Speaker 1: hero worship pieces. I feel like I want the real stuff.

951
00:42:34,666 --> 00:42:37,666
Speaker 1: I want to know what's really going down, and I

952
00:42:37,706 --> 00:42:39,706
Speaker 1: feel like it hasn't been done yet.

953
00:42:40,066 --> 00:42:43,866
Speaker 7: My question would be, as your editor, would be, do

954
00:42:43,946 --> 00:42:45,746
Speaker 7: you think you can get it out of him? You know,

955
00:42:45,986 --> 00:42:48,786
Speaker 7: is he in a place in his life where he's

956
00:42:48,906 --> 00:42:50,266
Speaker 7: willing to go there with you?

957
00:42:50,346 --> 00:42:50,626
Speaker 6: Now.

958
00:42:50,946 --> 00:42:52,986
Speaker 7: I did get the opportunity to spend a little time

959
00:42:53,026 --> 00:42:56,546
Speaker 7: talking to him a couple of seasons ago, and he's

960
00:42:56,586 --> 00:43:00,266
Speaker 7: definitely less guarded than he was at New England for sure,

961
00:43:00,426 --> 00:43:03,426
Speaker 7: you know, much more you know direct, and we saw

962
00:43:03,506 --> 00:43:04,706
Speaker 7: him like interviewed on the shop.

963
00:43:04,746 --> 00:43:06,706
Speaker 6: You know, is sort of showing aside the that you

964
00:43:06,746 --> 00:43:07,626
Speaker 6: hadn't seen before.

965
00:43:07,946 --> 00:43:11,026
Speaker 7: However, sort of like a skilled politician, he has this

966
00:43:11,146 --> 00:43:14,306
Speaker 7: ability to kind of give you the Tom Brady experience

967
00:43:14,426 --> 00:43:17,466
Speaker 7: without giving you Tom Brady like sort of like you know,

968
00:43:17,746 --> 00:43:18,466
Speaker 7: throw an F.

969
00:43:18,466 --> 00:43:20,866
Speaker 6: Bomb in there, like a candle here and there.

970
00:43:20,906 --> 00:43:22,906
Speaker 7: You're like wow, But then when you get back in

971
00:43:22,946 --> 00:43:24,986
Speaker 7: your role the tape, you're like, oh wait, it's not

972
00:43:25,266 --> 00:43:29,466
Speaker 7: totally the whole thing. He's very skilled that way.

973
00:43:30,026 --> 00:43:30,106
Speaker 3: Uh.

974
00:43:30,266 --> 00:43:33,106
Speaker 7: There's obviously an incredible amount to talk to him. I mean,

975
00:43:33,186 --> 00:43:34,506
Speaker 7: like look just off the top of my head, I

976
00:43:34,586 --> 00:43:37,346
Speaker 7: mean obviously, you know, the personal life stuff was pretty

977
00:43:37,386 --> 00:43:42,066
Speaker 7: messy last year, the whole FTX thing with him, Yes,

978
00:43:43,106 --> 00:43:46,466
Speaker 7: all that stuff, you know, and like he's this guy

979
00:43:46,506 --> 00:43:49,906
Speaker 7: who's trying to navigate being you know, he in front

980
00:43:49,946 --> 00:43:51,866
Speaker 7: of him is the idea that he could be like

981
00:43:51,906 --> 00:43:56,546
Speaker 7: the next like Michael Jordan Arnold Palmer type, the person

982
00:43:56,586 --> 00:43:59,866
Speaker 7: who is the sport right, Yes.

983
00:44:00,106 --> 00:44:02,666
Speaker 6: But it hasn't exactly worked right.

984
00:44:02,826 --> 00:44:06,906
Speaker 7: It's like the clothing brand came and like a little

985
00:44:06,906 --> 00:44:08,426
Speaker 7: bit of a splash, but I don't think it sort

986
00:44:08,426 --> 00:44:10,426
Speaker 7: of took off in the manner that they were hoping

987
00:44:10,466 --> 00:44:14,106
Speaker 7: it would do. He's had sort of very sort of

988
00:44:14,786 --> 00:44:17,186
Speaker 7: all over the place kind of endorsements over the years.

989
00:44:18,106 --> 00:44:21,346
Speaker 6: You know, he's not a normal dude. I mean, you

990
00:44:21,586 --> 00:44:22,506
Speaker 6: can't win like that.

991
00:44:22,786 --> 00:44:24,946
Speaker 7: You know, you can't be that person and have that

992
00:44:25,066 --> 00:44:27,626
Speaker 7: kind of life and be exactly normal. I'd be curious

993
00:44:27,666 --> 00:44:29,466
Speaker 7: to see what you could pry out them. Hopefully you

994
00:44:29,466 --> 00:44:30,466
Speaker 7: can do better than I did.

995
00:44:30,746 --> 00:44:33,586
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I think he'd be really interesting if

996
00:44:33,586 --> 00:44:35,106
Speaker 1: he was honest. You're right, And I don't know if

997
00:44:35,106 --> 00:44:36,586
Speaker 1: anyone's going to get that side of him. All right,

998
00:44:36,626 --> 00:44:37,146
Speaker 1: you're up next?

999
00:44:37,186 --> 00:44:37,786
Speaker 2: Who you go with?

1000
00:44:38,106 --> 00:44:45,306
Speaker 7: Okay, Peter, it's another kicker. This is more serious. I

1001
00:44:45,306 --> 00:44:48,466
Speaker 7: think Andy Reid. I think Andy Reid is somebody who

1002
00:44:48,586 --> 00:44:53,466
Speaker 7: has had incredible triumph and tragedy in his life. He has,

1003
00:44:53,746 --> 00:44:57,986
Speaker 7: you know, had a family that has had incredibly tragic

1004
00:44:58,026 --> 00:45:03,586
Speaker 7: circumstances and tough stuff and perseveres and I'd be very

1005
00:45:03,586 --> 00:45:06,866
Speaker 7: interested in sort of knowing more about what what sort

1006
00:45:06,866 --> 00:45:09,306
Speaker 7: of makes him operate, what sort of motivates him, what

1007
00:45:09,386 --> 00:45:12,026
Speaker 7: his sort of inner dialogue is. Like I have to

1008
00:45:12,106 --> 00:45:15,626
Speaker 7: figure that he is this master compartmentalizer, somebody who can,

1009
00:45:16,186 --> 00:45:19,946
Speaker 7: you know, keep on plugging away through terrible things that

1010
00:45:19,986 --> 00:45:22,506
Speaker 7: have happened. And I just think that's a that's a

1011
00:45:22,546 --> 00:45:25,666
Speaker 7: compelling story. That is the definition of sort of like

1012
00:45:25,706 --> 00:45:29,786
Speaker 7: a DeFord Gary Smith classic from back in the day.

1013
00:45:29,786 --> 00:45:33,026
Speaker 7: In fact, I imagine those were done when he was

1014
00:45:33,026 --> 00:45:35,346
Speaker 7: with the Eagles, because you know, some stuff was happening

1015
00:45:35,386 --> 00:45:38,106
Speaker 7: then too, but even now in sort of like the

1016
00:45:38,146 --> 00:45:41,626
Speaker 7: sort of golden era of his football respect, there's a

1017
00:45:41,666 --> 00:45:43,546
Speaker 7: lot to go there.

1018
00:45:42,546 --> 00:45:47,106
Speaker 1: I get a chance every year at dinner at the Combine,

1019
00:45:47,626 --> 00:45:50,146
Speaker 1: Brett Veitch, the GM and Andy Reid invite me to dinner.

1020
00:45:50,186 --> 00:45:51,906
Speaker 2: And I'm not name dropping or anything. It's a cool

1021
00:45:51,946 --> 00:45:52,546
Speaker 2: thing I get to do.

1022
00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:54,346
Speaker 1: They take me out and it's a few other people

1023
00:45:54,386 --> 00:45:56,506
Speaker 1: and I met a table with them, and Andy's nothing

1024
00:45:56,506 --> 00:45:59,986
Speaker 1: but sweet and incredible, And he's not as maybe you'd

1025
00:46:00,026 --> 00:46:02,226
Speaker 1: expecting to be loud, and like with the Hawaiian Suran,

1026
00:46:02,706 --> 00:46:03,186
Speaker 1: that's not him.

1027
00:46:03,506 --> 00:46:04,586
Speaker 2: He's sweets.

1028
00:46:05,506 --> 00:46:09,626
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a kind man, but I too. Every

1029
00:46:09,626 --> 00:46:11,186
Speaker 1: time I'm talking to him, there's this like hole in

1030
00:46:11,186 --> 00:46:13,986
Speaker 1: my heart thinking about the tragedies that he's gone through,

1031
00:46:13,986 --> 00:46:15,546
Speaker 1: obviously with his kid.

1032
00:46:16,226 --> 00:46:17,546
Speaker 2: And then I start thinking.

1033
00:46:17,306 --> 00:46:19,986
Speaker 1: Okay, and then how do you also become the most beloved,

1034
00:46:20,466 --> 00:46:23,746
Speaker 1: giving warm coach to so many players? And then the

1035
00:46:23,786 --> 00:46:26,466
Speaker 1: thing with Andy that's so incredible is we talk about

1036
00:46:26,466 --> 00:46:29,986
Speaker 1: the Belichick coaching tree. Andy Reid's coaching tree blows Belichick's

1037
00:46:29,986 --> 00:46:32,426
Speaker 1: out of the water, and those guys have great success,

1038
00:46:32,426 --> 00:46:34,226
Speaker 1: whereas Belichick's don't have as much.

1039
00:46:34,266 --> 00:46:35,746
Speaker 2: So great call on that one.

1040
00:46:35,786 --> 00:46:37,666
Speaker 1: I'm going to go a coach also for my second pick,

1041
00:46:37,666 --> 00:46:39,106
Speaker 1: a guy who I got a chance to become really

1042
00:46:39,146 --> 00:46:41,186
Speaker 1: close with last year, but I want to see him

1043
00:46:41,186 --> 00:46:43,386
Speaker 1: in this moment in time. I want the definitive Sean

1044
00:46:43,426 --> 00:46:45,466
Speaker 1: Payton piece. And if Jarrett beldon't do a great enough

1045
00:46:45,546 --> 00:46:48,666
Speaker 1: job already doing it once, I almost want to double

1046
00:46:48,706 --> 00:46:50,866
Speaker 1: dip and go back and do it again. And see

1047
00:46:50,906 --> 00:46:53,546
Speaker 1: now that his comments were taken and put in print

1048
00:46:53,586 --> 00:46:55,506
Speaker 1: and he had to suffer the blowback from all that.

1049
00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:59,466
Speaker 1: But Sean is I've said this before, and I don't

1050
00:46:59,466 --> 00:47:01,146
Speaker 1: know if I've said it on this podcast or whatever.

1051
00:47:01,786 --> 00:47:04,026
Speaker 1: Not that I judged a book by a cover wrong,

1052
00:47:04,146 --> 00:47:06,986
Speaker 1: but like for years I've been covering the NFL ty years,

1053
00:47:07,306 --> 00:47:09,666
Speaker 1: Sean Payton and I had no relationship, and I always

1054
00:47:09,706 --> 00:47:12,386
Speaker 1: deferred to the fact that, like Jay Glazer works on

1055
00:47:12,426 --> 00:47:13,306
Speaker 1: Fox with me that.

1056
00:47:13,346 --> 00:47:14,386
Speaker 2: Is Jay Glazer's guy.

1057
00:47:14,626 --> 00:47:17,466
Speaker 1: I would be really annoyed if I had a coach

1058
00:47:17,506 --> 00:47:19,026
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, like a younger guy came

1059
00:47:19,026 --> 00:47:20,186
Speaker 1: in and was constantly like.

1060
00:47:20,146 --> 00:47:20,586
Speaker 2: Hey, coach.

1061
00:47:20,986 --> 00:47:22,626
Speaker 1: I also don't think that coach would want to open

1062
00:47:22,666 --> 00:47:24,546
Speaker 1: up to me. But we were put together on this

1063
00:47:24,626 --> 00:47:26,586
Speaker 1: TV show last year. And this is after I've been

1064
00:47:26,866 --> 00:47:29,746
Speaker 1: I've called ten different Sean Payton games. I met him

1065
00:47:29,746 --> 00:47:31,706
Speaker 1: been production meetings have been nothing but kind, but not

1066
00:47:31,866 --> 00:47:34,226
Speaker 1: like Schrigger, here's my number. I didn't have his number nothing.

1067
00:47:34,906 --> 00:47:38,666
Speaker 1: We became really close and I freaking loved his energy,

1068
00:47:38,786 --> 00:47:45,186
Speaker 1: like high energy, hilarious, encyclopediac mind parcels quotes, Churchill quotes

1069
00:47:45,266 --> 00:47:50,266
Speaker 1: like history, buff Love's pop culture has a young spirit

1070
00:47:50,386 --> 00:47:52,706
Speaker 1: like and I. And this is the second chapter of

1071
00:47:52,706 --> 00:47:56,106
Speaker 1: his career where it's like, all right, Saints thing broadcasts

1072
00:47:56,186 --> 00:47:58,066
Speaker 1: and now I'm going to try to revitalize the Broncos.

1073
00:47:58,066 --> 00:48:00,106
Speaker 1: I think it's a really cool moment in time. And

1074
00:48:00,146 --> 00:48:02,466
Speaker 1: we've got to pick like playoff teams in a week

1075
00:48:02,586 --> 00:48:05,106
Speaker 1: for Good Morning Football, and I'm tempted to put the

1076
00:48:05,106 --> 00:48:08,346
Speaker 1: Broncos in. And yet there is no evidence other than

1077
00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:10,266
Speaker 1: the fact that I trust Sean Payton that they are

1078
00:48:10,266 --> 00:48:13,426
Speaker 1: a football team. But yet that fact alone, Jason, that

1079
00:48:13,466 --> 00:48:14,826
Speaker 1: might be enough for me to say, like, the Broncos

1080
00:48:14,826 --> 00:48:16,786
Speaker 1: are going to the playoff, Sean Payton won't let them fail.

1081
00:48:16,986 --> 00:48:18,986
Speaker 7: Now, it's funny because you work both sides of the

1082
00:48:18,986 --> 00:48:21,026
Speaker 7: street on that story, because of course you were the

1083
00:48:21,066 --> 00:48:23,026
Speaker 7: one who went to Aaron a couple of weeks later

1084
00:48:23,226 --> 00:48:25,866
Speaker 7: or days later and asked him about it, and Aaron

1085
00:48:26,346 --> 00:48:29,346
Speaker 7: bit right back. But I have to think that like

1086
00:48:29,346 --> 00:48:32,106
Speaker 7: when you see something like that, you know, those amazing

1087
00:48:32,186 --> 00:48:34,626
Speaker 7: quotes that came out of Peyton's mouth and just sort

1088
00:48:34,666 --> 00:48:36,786
Speaker 7: of like, you know, I think we can say like

1089
00:48:36,786 --> 00:48:38,026
Speaker 7: sort of like breaking.

1090
00:48:37,666 --> 00:48:38,746
Speaker 6: The code, right.

1091
00:48:38,826 --> 00:48:40,866
Speaker 7: You know, it's like it's very unusual to see a

1092
00:48:40,906 --> 00:48:44,906
Speaker 7: coach criticize another active coach. I can't help but think that,

1093
00:48:45,026 --> 00:48:47,146
Speaker 7: like it's one of those rare experiences you're like, oh, yeah,

1094
00:48:47,186 --> 00:48:49,786
Speaker 7: that's the person, because sometimes you read quotes in the

1095
00:48:49,786 --> 00:48:51,786
Speaker 7: paper and you're like, ah, well he's being you know,

1096
00:48:51,866 --> 00:48:53,986
Speaker 7: behaved and like he knows what to say and he's

1097
00:48:53,986 --> 00:48:55,906
Speaker 7: not going to give it up. And you're like, oh no,

1098
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:57,906
Speaker 7: that's the guy.

1099
00:48:57,866 --> 00:49:00,986
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, that's the stuff he would say in

1100
00:49:00,986 --> 00:49:02,986
Speaker 1: a green room and he'd be like whoa. And then

1101
00:49:02,986 --> 00:49:05,186
Speaker 1: he said in print on the record, right, And I don't

1102
00:49:05,186 --> 00:49:07,306
Speaker 1: think he said it on accident either, right.

1103
00:49:07,386 --> 00:49:09,946
Speaker 7: No fair play to the reporter too forgetting that, because

1104
00:49:09,986 --> 00:49:13,026
Speaker 7: it's it's that's that's really what you're striving for, and

1105
00:49:13,066 --> 00:49:15,866
Speaker 7: all this stuff is to have enough of a relationship

1106
00:49:15,906 --> 00:49:18,106
Speaker 7: that the artifice comes down and you're not getting the

1107
00:49:18,146 --> 00:49:21,146
Speaker 7: sort of managed commentary and you're getting something great like that.

1108
00:49:21,746 --> 00:49:23,866
Speaker 2: Your last pick if you were to do a profile.

1109
00:49:23,946 --> 00:49:26,226
Speaker 1: So far you've got the assignments you've got Justin Tucker

1110
00:49:26,226 --> 00:49:27,586
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid, who's number three.

1111
00:49:28,106 --> 00:49:30,946
Speaker 6: Josh Harris would be an amazing follow.

1112
00:49:30,706 --> 00:49:33,026
Speaker 2: For ye justice an owner, But like, why is that

1113
00:49:33,106 --> 00:49:35,946
Speaker 2: amazing to you? I've watched the in You want to.

1114
00:49:35,946 --> 00:49:37,906
Speaker 6: Shake my hand? Yeah, I want to shake my hand. Yeah,

1115
00:49:37,906 --> 00:49:39,706
Speaker 6: there you go, just hold it.

1116
00:49:39,986 --> 00:49:42,266
Speaker 7: I just think if I it's somebody who's like walking

1117
00:49:42,306 --> 00:49:45,266
Speaker 7: into a condemned house that they just bought, and they're

1118
00:49:45,266 --> 00:49:47,626
Speaker 7: going through all the newspapers that are up to the

1119
00:49:47,666 --> 00:49:50,426
Speaker 7: ceilings and they're finding like stuff that's like underneath the

1120
00:49:50,466 --> 00:49:53,186
Speaker 7: couch and they're like, what did I get? What am

1121
00:49:53,226 --> 00:49:55,066
Speaker 7: I doing here? And all of a sudden, you know,

1122
00:49:55,146 --> 00:49:57,466
Speaker 7: you are the talk of the town. Everybody is obsessed

1123
00:49:57,466 --> 00:49:58,946
Speaker 7: with you. They want to give you the cues city,

1124
00:49:58,986 --> 00:50:01,546
Speaker 7: they want you to build RK and Washington, but you

1125
00:50:01,706 --> 00:50:06,306
Speaker 7: have to like sort of basically do this uh exorcism

1126
00:50:06,546 --> 00:50:09,826
Speaker 7: of you know, thirty years of misery. And like, I

1127
00:50:09,906 --> 00:50:12,706
Speaker 7: just think that's a compelling story to follow somebody around

1128
00:50:12,706 --> 00:50:16,026
Speaker 7: who's coming from any synchronous world. He's not a sports person,

1129
00:50:16,266 --> 00:50:18,266
Speaker 7: even though he has this like sports background.

1130
00:50:18,586 --> 00:50:22,546
Speaker 6: He's a you know, yeah, the finance guy that.

1131
00:50:23,026 --> 00:50:25,266
Speaker 7: But the other one that I think a little bit

1132
00:50:25,266 --> 00:50:28,386
Speaker 7: more closer to your heart, Peter, And I've not seen

1133
00:50:28,426 --> 00:50:31,626
Speaker 7: this profile. I've seen him be the person quoted in

1134
00:50:31,706 --> 00:50:35,346
Speaker 7: profiles of television people. But I really think if you

1135
00:50:35,546 --> 00:50:37,666
Speaker 7: it'd be a sort of great New Yorker profile for

1136
00:50:37,746 --> 00:50:38,986
Speaker 7: somebody who has really skilled.

1137
00:50:39,146 --> 00:50:41,186
Speaker 6: Uh Fred Godelli.

1138
00:50:41,026 --> 00:50:44,026
Speaker 1: Interesting Hall of Fame broadcast producer, Fred Godell.

1139
00:50:43,906 --> 00:50:48,746
Speaker 7: Producer basically you know, the way that football looks in

1140
00:50:48,826 --> 00:50:52,986
Speaker 7: twenty twenty three, the way that football is Narry, the

1141
00:50:53,026 --> 00:50:56,026
Speaker 7: whole sort of like formatting of it. He's had an

1142
00:50:56,026 --> 00:50:59,266
Speaker 7: incredibly influential hand in this. He is the executive producer

1143
00:50:59,306 --> 00:51:01,666
Speaker 7: I think of Amazon. Now he also has this joint

1144
00:51:01,666 --> 00:51:04,146
Speaker 7: deal with NBC. I mean, that's when you know you

1145
00:51:04,186 --> 00:51:06,306
Speaker 7: have power, when you're able to sort of work both

1146
00:51:06,546 --> 00:51:09,306
Speaker 7: you know, do that still both of those things. You know,

1147
00:51:09,386 --> 00:51:12,346
Speaker 7: he's obviously been Al Michael's guy for a very long time.

1148
00:51:12,826 --> 00:51:13,826
Speaker 6: You could spend a lot.

1149
00:51:13,666 --> 00:51:15,586
Speaker 7: Of time in a booth there and sort of see

1150
00:51:15,586 --> 00:51:18,226
Speaker 7: how their mind operates. I mean, that's something that I

1151
00:51:18,266 --> 00:51:20,786
Speaker 7: think that I mean, I'm sort of preaching to the

1152
00:51:20,906 --> 00:51:24,026
Speaker 7: choir here because you're in the world, but like is

1153
00:51:24,346 --> 00:51:29,546
Speaker 7: very very underappreciated how skilled the people who are giving

1154
00:51:29,546 --> 00:51:34,946
Speaker 7: you the camera work, the production value in NFL. And also, like, look, Peter,

1155
00:51:35,506 --> 00:51:37,586
Speaker 7: if I'm going to put a fancy hat on this story,

1156
00:51:38,546 --> 00:51:41,306
Speaker 7: it's the last monoculture we have left in the world.

1157
00:51:41,346 --> 00:51:44,146
Speaker 7: We have Taylor Swift, yeah, and we have the NFL,

1158
00:51:44,306 --> 00:51:46,226
Speaker 7: or at least in the United States, we have those

1159
00:51:46,266 --> 00:51:49,906
Speaker 7: two things. And it's the last great television show that

1160
00:51:49,946 --> 00:51:52,746
Speaker 7: we all watch and I think it's never been better.

1161
00:51:52,986 --> 00:51:55,426
Speaker 6: I mean, it's actually a problem for the NFL. Peter,

1162
00:51:55,546 --> 00:51:58,346
Speaker 6: you know this, that the TV product is too good.

1163
00:51:58,466 --> 00:51:59,866
Speaker 2: Some people don't want to leave the couch.

1164
00:52:00,586 --> 00:52:03,786
Speaker 6: They don't want to leave the couch. Stadiums are sitting around.

1165
00:52:03,786 --> 00:52:05,386
Speaker 7: I mean we know this, both of us, that they're

1166
00:52:05,426 --> 00:52:08,746
Speaker 7: having conversations about, like what does our value add here?

1167
00:52:08,826 --> 00:52:10,146
Speaker 7: Like if we're going to make someone come in here

1168
00:52:10,186 --> 00:52:12,466
Speaker 7: and spend five hundred dollars on a Sunday, what are

1169
00:52:12,506 --> 00:52:15,106
Speaker 7: we giving them that they don't get at home? And

1170
00:52:15,146 --> 00:52:17,666
Speaker 7: it's a hard sell, you know, for a lot of people,

1171
00:52:18,106 --> 00:52:20,266
Speaker 7: because the product is so good on TV, and so

1172
00:52:20,386 --> 00:52:23,506
Speaker 7: this is a person who it be an amazing portal

1173
00:52:23,666 --> 00:52:26,466
Speaker 7: to all that stuff. He also goes way back to

1174
00:52:26,586 --> 00:52:29,786
Speaker 7: some really cooky days of the Forum, when you know,

1175
00:52:29,826 --> 00:52:33,626
Speaker 7: people were a lot less well behaved, and I think

1176
00:52:33,626 --> 00:52:35,386
Speaker 7: you can get some great stories out of that too.

1177
00:52:35,786 --> 00:52:36,266
Speaker 2: I love it.

1178
00:52:36,546 --> 00:52:38,786
Speaker 1: I've never worked with Fred Goodelli, obviously, I've gotten to

1179
00:52:38,786 --> 00:52:41,226
Speaker 1: meet him a few times, and this year he put

1180
00:52:41,266 --> 00:52:43,546
Speaker 1: on a gold jacket, which is so cool and so

1181
00:52:43,626 --> 00:52:44,226
Speaker 1: well deserved.

1182
00:52:44,226 --> 00:52:45,026
Speaker 2: I love that. Choice.

1183
00:52:45,066 --> 00:52:47,066
Speaker 1: That'd be interesting. My last one would be Mike Tomlin.

1184
00:52:48,146 --> 00:52:51,706
Speaker 1: I know, I went retired player coach coach. I just

1185
00:52:51,746 --> 00:52:55,026
Speaker 1: feel like Mike Tomlin is the standard now in Pittsburgh.

1186
00:52:55,026 --> 00:52:56,826
Speaker 1: And they had another nine and eight season last year

1187
00:52:56,866 --> 00:52:59,146
Speaker 1: where you avoided going five hundred, but like to go

1188
00:52:59,226 --> 00:53:03,226
Speaker 1: through yet another transition of like, here's another version of

1189
00:53:03,266 --> 00:53:07,146
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and here's Tomlin now like the senior of

1190
00:53:07,266 --> 00:53:10,466
Speaker 1: the NFL's like coaching community behind Belichick and Carolyn Reid.

1191
00:53:10,906 --> 00:53:13,226
Speaker 1: I just think it's such a cool position for him

1192
00:53:13,266 --> 00:53:15,186
Speaker 1: and such a cool time. And I really think the

1193
00:53:15,186 --> 00:53:18,346
Speaker 1: Steelers could be excellent this year. And here's Tomlin, who

1194
00:53:18,706 --> 00:53:21,146
Speaker 1: is no thirty or forty year old coach anymore, and

1195
00:53:21,186 --> 00:53:24,506
Speaker 1: he's got these two kids in Pickett and Pickens, who

1196
00:53:24,626 --> 00:53:26,226
Speaker 1: I think are going to be excellent this year, and

1197
00:53:26,306 --> 00:53:29,746
Speaker 1: the Steelers this franchise. I think Mike Tomlin's always a

1198
00:53:29,746 --> 00:53:31,426
Speaker 1: great quote, but I don't think there's been the definitive

1199
00:53:31,426 --> 00:53:33,146
Speaker 1: sports profile of him done in many years.

1200
00:53:33,306 --> 00:53:36,066
Speaker 6: Is he now the longest tenured Steelers coach ever?

1201
00:53:37,026 --> 00:53:40,426
Speaker 1: Chuck Nole was there for a long time, Chuck Knowle

1202
00:53:40,546 --> 00:53:42,986
Speaker 1: was there up until Cower, So let's say Chuck Nole.

1203
00:53:43,746 --> 00:53:46,266
Speaker 2: But you're right, it's already I mean Tomlin got there

1204
00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:51,106
Speaker 2: in five o six. Maybe yeah, he might be, which

1205
00:53:51,186 --> 00:53:52,186
Speaker 2: is a wild.

1206
00:53:51,986 --> 00:53:56,786
Speaker 7: Statistic because the psychology of that role is interesting in

1207
00:53:56,826 --> 00:54:00,106
Speaker 7: the respect that, like, look, your buddy's also at Sean McVay,

1208
00:54:00,586 --> 00:54:03,666
Speaker 7: and we feel Sean McVay sort of takes wins and

1209
00:54:03,706 --> 00:54:06,826
Speaker 7: losses right on the shirt sleeves, like the like that

1210
00:54:06,866 --> 00:54:11,146
Speaker 7: he internalizes the pain and the suffering as well as

1211
00:54:11,146 --> 00:54:12,306
Speaker 7: the joy of the job.

1212
00:54:12,386 --> 00:54:14,066
Speaker 6: You know, very sort of viscerally.

1213
00:54:15,026 --> 00:54:18,346
Speaker 7: To be in a job like that for fifteen, sixteen, seventeen,

1214
00:54:18,426 --> 00:54:22,466
Speaker 7: eighteen years, you cannot be constitutionally the kind of person

1215
00:54:22,466 --> 00:54:25,826
Speaker 7: who takes it terribly every time. You have to sort

1216
00:54:25,826 --> 00:54:28,826
Speaker 7: of get comfortable. I'm not saying get comfortable with losing,

1217
00:54:29,146 --> 00:54:31,106
Speaker 7: but you have to understand that you're never you know,

1218
00:54:31,146 --> 00:54:33,426
Speaker 7: it's like there's only one team left at the end

1219
00:54:33,546 --> 00:54:35,506
Speaker 7: and it's most likely not going to be you. And

1220
00:54:35,586 --> 00:54:37,866
Speaker 7: for him, he's been there to the mountaintop once, I

1221
00:54:37,866 --> 00:54:42,066
Speaker 7: believe as the champion. That means that the other years

1222
00:54:42,146 --> 00:54:44,226
Speaker 7: you didn't reach that And how do you sort of

1223
00:54:44,346 --> 00:54:46,586
Speaker 7: rationalize or resolve that. It makes me think of like

1224
00:54:46,626 --> 00:54:49,306
Speaker 7: the honest thing that happened after the NBA playoffs where

1225
00:54:49,306 --> 00:54:49,746
Speaker 7: they lost.

1226
00:54:49,946 --> 00:54:51,106
Speaker 2: Is it a failure to a lot?

1227
00:54:51,746 --> 00:54:54,426
Speaker 6: Yeah, is it a failure? And you know, there's a

1228
00:54:54,506 --> 00:54:55,226
Speaker 6: million reasons.

1229
00:54:55,266 --> 00:54:58,386
Speaker 7: And I know that people in your world are very

1230
00:54:58,386 --> 00:55:02,586
Speaker 7: skilled at explaining why Mike Tomlin is so incredibly great

1231
00:55:02,666 --> 00:55:06,186
Speaker 7: and the metrics of like how many rings don't necessarily apply.

1232
00:55:07,226 --> 00:55:11,146
Speaker 7: But yeah, he's you know, it's It's a funny thing

1233
00:55:11,186 --> 00:55:14,306
Speaker 7: to say because I looked at him recently doing a

1234
00:55:14,346 --> 00:55:15,826
Speaker 7: press conference and I was like, for the first time,

1235
00:55:15,826 --> 00:55:18,586
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, he looks old or older, Like,

1236
00:55:18,906 --> 00:55:20,466
Speaker 7: you know, he's always been the younger guy.

1237
00:55:20,506 --> 00:55:22,746
Speaker 1: You know, he's the youngest coach ever to win a

1238
00:55:22,746 --> 00:55:23,386
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

1239
00:55:23,746 --> 00:55:26,946
Speaker 7: Yeah, And and they're like, oh, yeah, now he's the

1240
00:55:26,986 --> 00:55:27,506
Speaker 7: older guy.

1241
00:55:27,786 --> 00:55:29,506
Speaker 6: That's an interesting dynamic as well.

1242
00:55:29,786 --> 00:55:34,306
Speaker 1: Yeah, real quick in closing, you grew up a Patriots

1243
00:55:34,346 --> 00:55:36,986
Speaker 1: fan up in the New England area, and this is

1244
00:55:36,986 --> 00:55:38,866
Speaker 1: one of those years where no one knows anything. They

1245
00:55:38,866 --> 00:55:41,426
Speaker 1: could go ten and seven, they can go five and twelve.

1246
00:55:41,866 --> 00:55:44,226
Speaker 1: Your feel on your Patriots, Well.

1247
00:55:44,106 --> 00:55:46,586
Speaker 7: Just to clarify, I'm old enough that I grew up

1248
00:55:46,626 --> 00:55:51,746
Speaker 7: in Shafer Stadium, Sullivan Stadium, Patriots aluminum benches, snowplow on

1249
00:55:51,826 --> 00:55:55,906
Speaker 7: the field. Victor Kai am like, you know, two and fourteen,

1250
00:55:56,186 --> 00:56:00,186
Speaker 7: like Patriots all right, this whole like dynasty Robert Craft.

1251
00:56:00,746 --> 00:56:01,866
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

1252
00:56:01,906 --> 00:56:06,186
Speaker 7: Long gone from Massachusetts. I don't recognize it whatsoever. No,

1253
00:56:06,226 --> 00:56:09,106
Speaker 7: I've I mean, listen, the Patriots are this kind of

1254
00:56:09,346 --> 00:56:14,506
Speaker 7: like institution now where everything that they do is outsized

1255
00:56:14,626 --> 00:56:16,946
Speaker 7: in the region, and so like there's always going to

1256
00:56:16,946 --> 00:56:22,506
Speaker 7: be disproportionate excitement, also disproportionate doomsdayism. I think it's hilarious

1257
00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:26,866
Speaker 7: to hear the sort of simultaneous conversation of are the

1258
00:56:26,906 --> 00:56:30,906
Speaker 7: Patriots actually an underrated potential playoff threat?

1259
00:56:31,666 --> 00:56:33,346
Speaker 6: And is Belichick on hot seat?

1260
00:56:33,386 --> 00:56:34,226
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like.

1261
00:56:34,506 --> 00:56:37,546
Speaker 7: Both sides of the mouth being talked about here. I

1262
00:56:37,626 --> 00:56:40,506
Speaker 7: just think it's hilarious that. But that sort of speaks

1263
00:56:40,506 --> 00:56:42,826
Speaker 7: to what, you know, it is that sort of New

1264
00:56:42,826 --> 00:56:45,586
Speaker 7: England ethos of like sky is following, but maybe we

1265
00:56:45,626 --> 00:56:46,546
Speaker 7: could make it this year.

1266
00:56:46,666 --> 00:56:49,266
Speaker 6: Like you know, that's all. I recognize that very well.

1267
00:56:49,346 --> 00:56:51,986
Speaker 1: Our mutual friend Bill Simmons is all in. I don't

1268
00:56:51,986 --> 00:56:53,546
Speaker 1: know if you've heard him talk, He's like, this is

1269
00:56:53,586 --> 00:56:55,706
Speaker 1: the year We're great. Everyone's not what's talking about us?

1270
00:56:56,026 --> 00:56:57,506
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get on board. I

1271
00:56:57,546 --> 00:56:58,946
Speaker 1: don't know if I can do it. I will tell

1272
00:56:58,986 --> 00:57:01,746
Speaker 1: you this, there's a guy there that they're super excited

1273
00:57:01,746 --> 00:57:05,306
Speaker 1: about rookie Pop Douglas Wide Receiver. And as I say that,

1274
00:57:05,346 --> 00:57:07,226
Speaker 1: in the back of my hand, I'm like, gosh, if

1275
00:57:07,226 --> 00:57:09,866
Speaker 1: we're banking on Pop Douglas, are the Patriots really going

1276
00:57:09,946 --> 00:57:10,826
Speaker 1: to be a contender this year?

1277
00:57:11,346 --> 00:57:15,066
Speaker 7: What is your go to thing when somebody you know,

1278
00:57:15,146 --> 00:57:17,346
Speaker 7: you're at some social occasion, you know, you're waiting in

1279
00:57:17,386 --> 00:57:20,346
Speaker 7: line in Amagant for an ice cream cards, someone says,

1280
00:57:20,546 --> 00:57:24,426
Speaker 7: somebody says, Schrager, give me one fantasy tip, like, I mean,

1281
00:57:24,666 --> 00:57:26,146
Speaker 7: it must be the bandier existence.

1282
00:57:26,186 --> 00:57:28,466
Speaker 1: I hate, like you know that, I hate it, and

1283
00:57:28,506 --> 00:57:30,066
Speaker 1: I get it all the time and I say the

1284
00:57:30,106 --> 00:57:32,786
Speaker 1: same thing, and it pisses me off. The response, I'll say,

1285
00:57:33,106 --> 00:57:36,066
Speaker 1: take Jamiir Gibbs, the rookie from the Lions. And it's

1286
00:57:36,066 --> 00:57:38,146
Speaker 1: because we had Brad Holmes on this podcast, and Brad

1287
00:57:38,186 --> 00:57:41,026
Speaker 1: Holmes wax poetic about Jamior Gibbs like he was, you know,

1288
00:57:41,266 --> 00:57:44,586
Speaker 1: the next Jerry Rice Slash, you know, Roger Craig all

1289
00:57:44,666 --> 00:57:47,946
Speaker 1: on one And the response that I get that pisses

1290
00:57:48,026 --> 00:57:48,706
Speaker 1: me off so much.

1291
00:57:48,786 --> 00:57:50,746
Speaker 2: Jason as people be like, no, I know that one.

1292
00:57:50,786 --> 00:57:54,626
Speaker 2: Give me another one, and I'm like, oh, you know what, No,

1293
00:57:54,866 --> 00:57:55,466
Speaker 2: I don't have it.

1294
00:57:55,626 --> 00:57:57,546
Speaker 1: No, And I'm like, well, everyone knows Jamier Gibbs, Like no,

1295
00:57:57,586 --> 00:57:58,786
Speaker 1: not everyone knows Jamiir Gibbs.

1296
00:57:58,826 --> 00:58:01,146
Speaker 2: He hasn't played it down yet. So I always say

1297
00:58:01,266 --> 00:58:01,906
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs.

1298
00:58:01,946 --> 00:58:03,706
Speaker 1: And then they'll say, well, give me a team that

1299
00:58:03,786 --> 00:58:05,626
Speaker 1: you think is going to be good, and I say,

1300
00:58:05,626 --> 00:58:06,906
Speaker 1: I really have to see Hawk this year.

1301
00:58:06,986 --> 00:58:09,346
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are my quiet team this year.

1302
00:58:09,866 --> 00:58:12,826
Speaker 6: I mean, can I ask you a couple of industry questions.

1303
00:58:12,586 --> 00:58:13,466
Speaker 1: Please, let's do it.

1304
00:58:13,506 --> 00:58:15,586
Speaker 2: I love it all right, so you.

1305
00:58:15,546 --> 00:58:19,026
Speaker 7: Know they're the whole fantasy construct in the NFL media

1306
00:58:19,146 --> 00:58:22,786
Speaker 7: is fascinating, where Like it is huge business. Of course,

1307
00:58:22,986 --> 00:58:25,706
Speaker 7: it means a great deal to a very specific crowd

1308
00:58:25,746 --> 00:58:28,026
Speaker 7: of people, a substantial crowd of people. It's it's it's

1309
00:58:28,146 --> 00:58:33,626
Speaker 7: it's a huge population plays fantasy. However, it's a parallel

1310
00:58:33,666 --> 00:58:36,306
Speaker 7: track that sometimes has nothing to do with what's actually

1311
00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:39,826
Speaker 7: happening from a success and failure standpoint, Like for example,

1312
00:58:40,346 --> 00:58:43,826
Speaker 7: I'm like, I hear all the time about Justin Fields.

1313
00:58:43,906 --> 00:58:46,466
Speaker 7: Justin feels this that the other thing, Like he's an

1314
00:58:46,506 --> 00:58:47,346
Speaker 7: incredible talent.

1315
00:58:47,426 --> 00:58:49,586
Speaker 6: Obviously he was a wonderful to watch. I was a

1316
00:58:49,626 --> 00:58:51,586
Speaker 6: big ten you know, fan lost.

1317
00:58:51,386 --> 00:58:54,306
Speaker 1: Ten games and the season last year, and he completed

1318
00:58:54,346 --> 00:58:56,066
Speaker 1: the least amount of passes maybe in the history of

1319
00:58:56,066 --> 00:58:57,026
Speaker 1: any starting quarterback.

1320
00:58:57,346 --> 00:58:59,986
Speaker 6: So is that just fantasy inflation is different?

1321
00:59:00,186 --> 00:59:01,426
Speaker 2: That is no, it's a different game.

1322
00:59:01,506 --> 00:59:04,266
Speaker 1: So his points count a lot because in fantasy football

1323
00:59:04,506 --> 00:59:09,146
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, rushing yards are seriously heavily weighted, and

1324
00:59:09,186 --> 00:59:10,226
Speaker 1: he runs for a lot of yards.

1325
00:59:10,226 --> 00:59:11,626
Speaker 2: So like Lamar a couple of years ago.

1326
00:59:11,946 --> 00:59:16,186
Speaker 7: So it's possible in your world to I mean, obviously

1327
00:59:16,226 --> 00:59:19,066
Speaker 7: there are some fantasy experts to have become enormously successful,

1328
00:59:19,066 --> 00:59:22,306
Speaker 7: but like you can exist in that world entirely. You

1329
00:59:22,426 --> 00:59:25,826
Speaker 7: just your rating players from a fantasy perspective, you know,

1330
00:59:25,986 --> 00:59:27,786
Speaker 7: completely ambivalent about wins and losses.

1331
00:59:27,866 --> 00:59:30,906
Speaker 2: Here's why I come out on it, my arrogance.

1332
00:59:31,146 --> 00:59:33,706
Speaker 1: I come off as pompous when I roll my eyes

1333
00:59:33,706 --> 00:59:36,546
Speaker 1: at the fantasy guys when they're like, I think Jamison

1334
00:59:36,626 --> 00:59:38,586
Speaker 1: Crowder is going to be a breakout, and I'm like,

1335
00:59:38,906 --> 00:59:41,946
Speaker 1: I know this person doesn't talk to any of the coaches.

1336
00:59:41,986 --> 00:59:44,266
Speaker 1: I know this person isn't at practice. I know this

1337
00:59:44,306 --> 00:59:45,986
Speaker 1: person doesn't follow it every day like I do. So

1338
00:59:46,066 --> 00:59:49,106
Speaker 1: why do you know that this random third wide receiver

1339
00:59:49,186 --> 00:59:52,386
Speaker 1: is gonna be a breakout player and yet fantasy expert

1340
00:59:52,586 --> 00:59:54,586
Speaker 1: and they've won fantasy leagues and they got that.

1341
00:59:54,666 --> 00:59:55,786
Speaker 2: Like I just don't confront it.

1342
00:59:55,786 --> 00:59:59,226
Speaker 1: It's a different sport altogether, fantasy football and the world

1343
00:59:59,266 --> 01:00:01,026
Speaker 1: that I live in. So like today I'm on Good

1344
01:00:01,066 --> 01:00:03,746
Speaker 1: Morning Football and I will tell you and again put

1345
01:00:03,746 --> 01:00:04,706
Speaker 1: this somewhere if you want it.

1346
01:00:05,106 --> 01:00:07,626
Speaker 2: Greg Dolcich is tight end for the Broncos.

1347
01:00:07,706 --> 01:00:09,386
Speaker 1: I put him on a breakout player list, and I

1348
01:00:09,466 --> 01:00:12,066
Speaker 1: know that from good sources, from the aforementioned people that

1349
01:00:12,106 --> 01:00:14,746
Speaker 1: we were talking about, that they really are excited about Dulcic.

1350
01:00:15,146 --> 01:00:17,666
Speaker 1: He's nowhere on any fantasy list and I don't know

1351
01:00:17,706 --> 01:00:19,706
Speaker 1: if he's going to be a huge fantasy football player,

1352
01:00:19,986 --> 01:00:22,586
Speaker 1: but I know that Greg Dulcich has got a role

1353
01:00:22,586 --> 01:00:23,626
Speaker 1: in the Broncos offense.

1354
01:00:23,866 --> 01:00:25,186
Speaker 2: Do with what you want there.

1355
01:00:25,346 --> 01:00:27,946
Speaker 1: However, if someone was to look at me or some

1356
01:00:27,986 --> 01:00:30,066
Speaker 1: of these fantasy experts and they're doing a draft, I

1357
01:00:30,106 --> 01:00:32,386
Speaker 1: would probably direct them to those guys because they know

1358
01:00:32,426 --> 01:00:35,146
Speaker 1: all the metrics and how the stats equate into fantasy

1359
01:00:35,146 --> 01:00:37,466
Speaker 1: points more than I do.

1360
01:00:37,466 --> 01:00:42,386
Speaker 7: Do you think that the NFL preseason like the it

1361
01:00:42,426 --> 01:00:46,386
Speaker 7: felt to me something happened this year where like August,

1362
01:00:46,786 --> 01:00:49,346
Speaker 7: NFL coverage just jumped the rail. I felt that the

1363
01:00:49,426 --> 01:00:51,746
Speaker 7: NFL has been the number one story I'll tell you

1364
01:00:51,786 --> 01:00:54,106
Speaker 7: what it is for six weeks now. And it used

1365
01:00:54,146 --> 01:00:55,706
Speaker 7: to be like you got a little bit of a

1366
01:00:55,706 --> 01:00:59,466
Speaker 7: break going into September, and I feel like it never quit.

1367
01:00:59,586 --> 01:01:01,386
Speaker 7: And I'm like, you know somebody who covers all these

1368
01:01:01,426 --> 01:01:03,826
Speaker 7: other sports, and I'm like, guys, there's other stuff happening here.

1369
01:01:03,826 --> 01:01:05,746
Speaker 7: We don't have to like talk about the third string

1370
01:01:05,826 --> 01:01:08,226
Speaker 7: quarterback the Jets. You know, like, what are we doing here?

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01:01:08,506 --> 01:01:11,226
Speaker 1: It's the greatest show in town, as you noticed. I'll

1372
01:01:11,266 --> 01:01:13,026
Speaker 1: tell you a couple of combinations of things. And here's

1373
01:01:13,026 --> 01:01:17,826
Speaker 1: my big philosophy on it. Actors are on strike. Writers

1374
01:01:17,826 --> 01:01:21,786
Speaker 1: are on strike. So you take out the entertainment world altogether, okay.

1375
01:01:22,266 --> 01:01:24,186
Speaker 1: The New York Yankees and the New York Mets. I

1376
01:01:24,186 --> 01:01:26,266
Speaker 1: know I'm in a New York world. They both stink.

1377
01:01:26,386 --> 01:01:29,306
Speaker 1: You take them out there, okay, And the Giants and Jets,

1378
01:01:29,306 --> 01:01:32,466
Speaker 1: from my landscape, just New York perspective, are both supposed

1379
01:01:32,506 --> 01:01:34,106
Speaker 1: to be great, and there's a ton of excitement for

1380
01:01:34,146 --> 01:01:35,986
Speaker 1: the first time in a decade around both teams.

1381
01:01:36,026 --> 01:01:38,626
Speaker 2: It was the perfect storm. So for me, I think

1382
01:01:38,626 --> 01:01:38,906
Speaker 2: that's it.

1383
01:01:38,986 --> 01:01:42,066
Speaker 1: And then also football wise, they cut it down to

1384
01:01:42,106 --> 01:01:45,786
Speaker 1: three preseason games, it's not four. It feels like it's

1385
01:01:45,786 --> 01:01:47,826
Speaker 1: a more limited opportunity. And then we're right back into

1386
01:01:47,906 --> 01:01:50,706
Speaker 1: the season. So with the Rogers stuff and with all

1387
01:01:50,746 --> 01:01:54,546
Speaker 1: the different offseason acquisitions, and I think that's just a

1388
01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:56,586
Speaker 1: really intriguing season. And it was a perfect storm in

1389
01:01:56,626 --> 01:01:58,626
Speaker 1: New York at the very least with the Giants and Jets.

1390
01:01:58,826 --> 01:02:01,626
Speaker 6: Who's the halftime Do we know who the halftime act is?

1391
01:02:01,906 --> 01:02:02,506
Speaker 2: Quick draft?

1392
01:02:02,546 --> 01:02:07,586
Speaker 1: Again, we'll wrap it on this halftime performer for Bowling Vegas.

1393
01:02:08,186 --> 01:02:10,186
Speaker 1: All the reports you've heard, throw them out the window.

1394
01:02:10,226 --> 01:02:12,026
Speaker 1: You don't know anything. It's the NFL. They can get

1395
01:02:12,026 --> 01:02:16,306
Speaker 1: whoever they want. Relatively speaking, you're the first choice if

1396
01:02:16,306 --> 01:02:18,666
Speaker 1: you could pick anybody right now, who's the cultural moment

1397
01:02:18,746 --> 01:02:20,906
Speaker 1: or who's the person worthy of a Vegas Super Bowl?

1398
01:02:21,226 --> 01:02:23,906
Speaker 7: Well, obviously the first call is to Taylor Swift, but

1399
01:02:24,026 --> 01:02:26,866
Speaker 7: I think I heard somebody say on another podcast is

1400
01:02:26,866 --> 01:02:28,946
Speaker 7: she's bigger than the super Bowl, And it's a very

1401
01:02:29,026 --> 01:02:34,026
Speaker 7: legit argument. My second call would be Beyonce, who's done

1402
01:02:34,026 --> 01:02:37,626
Speaker 7: it before. But it is like in prime time, like,

1403
01:02:37,746 --> 01:02:41,546
Speaker 7: you know, performance wise, I think I'd probably say no

1404
01:02:41,666 --> 01:02:42,826
Speaker 7: because she'd been there, done that.

1405
01:02:43,466 --> 01:02:50,706
Speaker 6: So my next call, Peter, jeez, bad bunny, let's do this?

1406
01:02:51,226 --> 01:02:51,866
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1407
01:02:51,986 --> 01:02:53,786
Speaker 2: That's where you're going with it, bad Bunny.

1408
01:02:53,826 --> 01:02:56,466
Speaker 1: I know he's a huge international superstar, but that will

1409
01:02:56,466 --> 01:02:58,826
Speaker 1: long pregnant pause, bad Bunny.

1410
01:02:59,226 --> 01:03:01,986
Speaker 6: Yeah, top five recording artists in the world.

1411
01:03:02,146 --> 01:03:04,826
Speaker 1: I'm going Eddie Shearon baby all day, all night. That's

1412
01:03:04,866 --> 01:03:06,786
Speaker 1: my pick of verse.

1413
01:03:06,986 --> 01:03:10,626
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, listen, did you see that Eddie Shearon

1414
01:03:10,706 --> 01:03:12,306
Speaker 6: concert for those very special people?

1415
01:03:13,946 --> 01:03:16,346
Speaker 2: We talked about it. I did not. I would have

1416
01:03:16,386 --> 01:03:17,146
Speaker 2: loved to have gone.

1417
01:03:17,466 --> 01:03:21,186
Speaker 1: No, Sir Paul McCartney and Billy Joel and Jerry Seinfeld.

1418
01:03:20,666 --> 01:03:21,546
Speaker 2: And Dave Portnoy.

1419
01:03:21,626 --> 01:03:24,546
Speaker 1: No, I did not make the Listen, Bob Craft, Bob Kraft,

1420
01:03:24,826 --> 01:03:29,306
Speaker 1: bon Jovi, Angelica Houston and Gwyneth Paltrow.

1421
01:03:29,426 --> 01:03:30,146
Speaker 2: That was some crew.

1422
01:03:30,626 --> 01:03:30,946
Speaker 1: All right.

1423
01:03:31,026 --> 01:03:33,106
Speaker 7: A couple more years out there, Peter, you'll get the

1424
01:03:33,226 --> 01:03:33,946
Speaker 7: you'll get the invite.

1425
01:03:34,066 --> 01:03:34,346
Speaker 2: That's it.

1426
01:03:34,386 --> 01:03:36,906
Speaker 1: I just got to keep on hacking away, Bad Bunny.

1427
01:03:36,946 --> 01:03:38,186
Speaker 1: Do you have a chance to take that back and

1428
01:03:38,226 --> 01:03:39,906
Speaker 1: put in an artist that you actually come on?

1429
01:03:40,026 --> 01:03:42,946
Speaker 6: I'm super legit and bad Bunny. That's a good one.

1430
01:03:43,586 --> 01:03:50,666
Speaker 6: An artist I like exactly, I know, yeah, exactly.

1431
01:03:51,946 --> 01:03:53,386
Speaker 2: Is Jason Mraz performing?

1432
01:03:53,506 --> 01:03:57,066
Speaker 6: Yes, Phoebe Bridget is not playing the super Bowl.

1433
01:03:57,106 --> 01:04:00,426
Speaker 7: I don't believe although they, you know what, boy genius

1434
01:04:00,466 --> 01:04:02,146
Speaker 7: would be an amazing halftime show.

1435
01:04:02,226 --> 01:04:04,266
Speaker 6: I don't think they, you know, are going to get

1436
01:04:04,266 --> 01:04:06,226
Speaker 6: the call from the NFL. But I give my.

1437
01:04:07,026 --> 01:04:10,786
Speaker 7: That's Taylor Swift's other legacies. She's training the halftime acts

1438
01:04:10,786 --> 01:04:11,306
Speaker 7: of tomorrow.

1439
01:04:11,386 --> 01:04:13,106
Speaker 6: I know you know all these openings.

1440
01:04:13,186 --> 01:04:17,346
Speaker 1: She's paramore, good stuff.

1441
01:04:17,466 --> 01:04:18,826
Speaker 2: You're the man. Thank you for joining me.

1442
01:04:18,866 --> 01:04:22,346
Speaker 7: Dude, Peter, it's a pleasure. I really really appreciate the

1443
01:04:22,386 --> 01:04:23,346
Speaker 7: opportunity to come on.

1444
01:04:23,306 --> 01:04:26,706
Speaker 6: To the show. I'll see you outside the coffee shop

1445
01:04:28,066 --> 01:04:29,106
Speaker 6: of the future.

1446
01:04:29,386 --> 01:04:31,826
Speaker 2: All right, Jason Gay awesome guest, Aaron.

1447
01:04:31,826 --> 01:04:34,666
Speaker 1: That was fun. Next week is like the start of

1448
01:04:34,706 --> 01:04:38,466
Speaker 1: the season. I'm debating do I bring on a coach,

1449
01:04:38,506 --> 01:04:42,826
Speaker 1: a GM, a broadcast. I might go broadcaster, what do

1450
01:04:42,866 --> 01:04:44,706
Speaker 1: you think? And like a guy who's gonna be calling

1451
01:04:44,706 --> 01:04:46,146
Speaker 1: one of the Week one games, and then maybe we

1452
01:04:46,226 --> 01:04:48,826
Speaker 1: go around the league and talk about our last second predictions.

1453
01:04:48,866 --> 01:04:51,386
Speaker 1: I haven't done my super Bowl prediction yet, as you

1454
01:04:51,466 --> 01:04:53,226
Speaker 1: know I pumped my chest everywhere.

1455
01:04:53,306 --> 01:04:55,546
Speaker 2: I've been very accurate with those in recent years.

1456
01:04:55,626 --> 01:04:58,386
Speaker 1: I had the Chiefs winning last year, I had the

1457
01:04:58,466 --> 01:04:59,466
Speaker 1: Rams winning the year before that.

1458
01:04:59,506 --> 01:05:01,146
Speaker 2: I had the Bucks in the Super Bowl year before that,

1459
01:05:01,186 --> 01:05:01,746
Speaker 2: and I had.

1460
01:05:01,586 --> 01:05:04,466
Speaker 1: The Chiefs going up against the forty nine ers and

1461
01:05:04,466 --> 01:05:05,666
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl yer before that. So I take a

1462
01:05:05,706 --> 01:05:07,946
Speaker 1: lot of pride in this, and I haven't made my

1463
01:05:08,026 --> 01:05:11,266
Speaker 1: official decision yet, but I feel like next week's monologue,

1464
01:05:11,266 --> 01:05:13,346
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay on you all the predictions and I

1465
01:05:13,346 --> 01:05:14,066
Speaker 1: want yours as well.

1466
01:05:14,106 --> 01:05:16,466
Speaker 2: So that's a homework assignment. Okay, all right, I want.

1467
01:05:16,266 --> 01:05:18,826
Speaker 1: Your here's what you have to do for me, suerole prediction,

1468
01:05:21,186 --> 01:05:22,746
Speaker 1: MVP prediction.

1469
01:05:23,746 --> 01:05:26,226
Speaker 2: Okay, yep, and that's it.

1470
01:05:26,386 --> 01:05:29,026
Speaker 1: Okay, I need your super Bowl and your MVP prediction,

1471
01:05:29,386 --> 01:05:32,066
Speaker 1: and we're gonna lay it on the listeners. I'm gonna

1472
01:05:32,106 --> 01:05:36,226
Speaker 1: reveal it Thursday on Good Morning Football. So maybe, oh,

1473
01:05:36,306 --> 01:05:38,506
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're gonna handle this. Maybe I

1474
01:05:38,626 --> 01:05:40,906
Speaker 1: like doing it on TV first. It kind of delivers it.

1475
01:05:41,026 --> 01:05:43,866
Speaker 1: So maybe I just get yours and then we pre

1476
01:05:44,026 --> 01:05:46,506
Speaker 1: tape something and we release it on Thursday after Good

1477
01:05:46,506 --> 01:05:49,426
Speaker 1: Morning Football and we just title it. Schrager and Aaron's

1478
01:05:49,466 --> 01:05:52,386
Speaker 1: predictions and watch we can book the best guests in

1479
01:05:52,426 --> 01:05:54,106
Speaker 1: the wrote. We can have Tom Brady on this freaking show,

1480
01:05:54,106 --> 01:05:57,226
Speaker 1: but Schrager and Aaron's predictions will be the most listened

1481
01:05:57,266 --> 01:06:02,906
Speaker 1: to podcast. I'm debating, do you want studio show guy

1482
01:06:03,026 --> 01:06:06,106
Speaker 1: or gal or do you want NFL broadcaster in the

1483
01:06:06,106 --> 01:06:07,106
Speaker 1: booth for next week?

1484
01:06:07,106 --> 01:06:08,066
Speaker 2: I can get anyone.

1485
01:06:09,386 --> 01:06:10,866
Speaker 6: I think.

1486
01:06:11,946 --> 01:06:14,026
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like broadcaster because we've had the

1487
01:06:14,066 --> 01:06:17,306
Speaker 3: studio shows they're going right now. The broadcast is gonna

1488
01:06:17,346 --> 01:06:18,986
Speaker 3: be the thing that's coming back, So I think that

1489
01:06:19,346 --> 01:06:20,986
Speaker 3: i'd be more most excited for that.

1490
01:06:21,146 --> 01:06:26,826
Speaker 1: All right, all right, so then we're gonna get either Olsen, Collinsworth, Aikman.

1491
01:06:27,306 --> 01:06:30,666
Speaker 2: I can call Aikman Romo. I don't know at all,

1492
01:06:30,746 --> 01:06:33,626
Speaker 2: so probably not Romo. It's gonna be one of those four.

1493
01:06:33,786 --> 01:06:34,146
Speaker 2: We'll go.

1494
01:06:34,546 --> 01:06:37,066
Speaker 1: I'll hit up Olson, I'll hit up Aikman, I'll hit

1495
01:06:37,146 --> 01:06:39,586
Speaker 1: up Collinsworth, and we'll have one of those three guys

1496
01:06:39,986 --> 01:06:41,026
Speaker 1: as our guest next week.

1497
01:06:41,026 --> 01:06:41,626
Speaker 2: How's that sound?

1498
01:06:41,746 --> 01:06:43,946
Speaker 3: It's perfect as long as they're good at arm wrestling.

1499
01:06:44,266 --> 01:06:47,346
Speaker 2: We got a arm wrestle like Tyson Badgent's dad, exactly.

1500
01:06:47,586 --> 01:06:49,946
Speaker 1: I assure you, no one else was talking about Tyson

1501
01:06:49,986 --> 01:06:54,146
Speaker 1: Badgen's dad on their podcast this morning on behalf of

1502
01:06:54,226 --> 01:06:57,746
Speaker 1: Aaron Wang Kaufman, on behalf of Jason English, the maestro

1503
01:06:57,866 --> 01:07:01,746
Speaker 1: from the iHeart sector of the world, the NFL Network,

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Speaker 1: folks out West, our music man Jack Rudd, and all

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Speaker 1: you guys who are listen, and then thanks for this

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Speaker 1: week's episode of the Season with Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 8: We'll check in with you next week.

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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

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