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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 3: I've heard so many players say, well I want to

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Speaker 3: be happy.

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Speaker 4: You want to be happy for a day? Edo State

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Speaker 4: is that? Whoo whoom? And then and tie.

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Speaker 1: Whoa baby, oh baby, oh baby, oh baby, oh baby

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Speaker 1: wow Dan Wow. What a week of college football. We

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Speaker 1: thought Week six was packed. Week seven had plenty more

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Speaker 1: to discuss as we come on the airwaves tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: LSU was just beaten old missing over time. There are

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Speaker 1: fallings storming the Tiger Stadium field. We of course had

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Speaker 1: the madness that took place on the West coast, on

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Speaker 1: the East coast, in the heartland. College football week in

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Speaker 1: and week now we week out. Now we have come

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Speaker 1: to this point where each week brings us a whole

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Speaker 1: slew of new surprises. My good friend, how is your

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Speaker 1: voice after that Organ game?

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Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't great going into the Organ game. And

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Speaker 4: not that I was screaming, I was I was watching

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Speaker 4: most of it alone. Just the emotion that was sapped

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Speaker 4: out of me. Ty, I think it took some of

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Speaker 4: day was draining in the best possible way. I don't

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Speaker 4: know where you want to start. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: you want to even begin to organize this reaction show,

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Speaker 4: but I'm game.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you know the drill. What we try to

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Speaker 1: transpired throughout the day. It is obviously an incomplete reaction

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Speaker 1: the stuff that we don't get a chance to discuss

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Speaker 1: has been very popular Dan, not just because we offer

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Speaker 1: kind of a crazy week again. We had a loaded

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Speaker 1: day of games across the country, especially in the SEC,

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Speaker 1: which had a bunch of close games that as I

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Speaker 1: lesser degree in the Big twelve, which had another important

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Speaker 1: week of sorting itself out, actually still in the process

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Speaker 1: game that is ongoing as halftime as we required. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: also true in the ACC. Right, I'm going to make

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Speaker 1: the case here that ACC's got the most interesting middle

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Speaker 1: exactly what that means here and what it looked like

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Speaker 1: in week seven. And of course Vanderbilt let's roll. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: do you want to start with any other dub another?

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Speaker 1: Don't step on my toes here in this preamble. I'm

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Speaker 1: But our first point of the evening has to be

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Speaker 1: and Oregon came out in front thirty two to thirty one.

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Speaker 1: all intentsive purposes, Vegas had them pretty even. Yes, what

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Speaker 4: It was a roller coaster. It was an absolute roller coaster.

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Speaker 4: It was Dylan Gabriel's best game as a duck, with

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Speaker 4: This is still not a finished product. I thought. By

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Speaker 4: Orgon made a ton of plays. Organ didn't just belong

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Speaker 1: What I found interesting about this game is actually when

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Speaker 1: One of the big points of interest for us was

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Speaker 1: and they did frequently in this game that was part

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Speaker 1: I thought, to your point, Dylan Gabriel looked like a

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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel that I think I've been expecting throughout the

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Speaker 1: I thought Dylan Gabriel looked really, really solid. Three forty

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Speaker 4: Had time by the way the Oregon offensive line protected him,

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Speaker 4: which has not always been the story this year. Was

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Speaker 1: No, it just it. I think what I come away

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Speaker 4: Well, they they definitely weren't taking shots against inferior secondaries

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Speaker 1: No, and you know, I'm not I'm not a conspiracy

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Speaker 4: Did they squeeze that in between Jeremiah Smith praise?

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of Jeremiah Smith love. Yeah, and look,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of talent to go around on the Ohio

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Speaker 1: drop Ohio State? I think is a real question unranked. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not that it really matters that much in the grand

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Speaker 1: on the same field, having seen how I think level

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Speaker 1: the game felt for a good chunk of the way through,

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Speaker 1: I thought Will Howard, by the way, was excellent.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was really really strong, excellent in this game.

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Speaker 4: But I don't even fully care about the Ohio State game.

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Speaker 1: the points. I forget what the points bread was, but regardless,

438
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Speaker 1: you could imagine a scenario in which that emotional roller

439
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: coaster winds them up in a ditch a week after

440
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Speaker 1: against a team like Kentucky, which no disrespect to the Cats,

441
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: they're not Alabama Vandy Weiss. There's just a lot going

442
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Speaker 1: on in the SEC outside of that top round. We'll

443
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Speaker 1: talk about the Texas game next and maybe where that

444
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: fits in here within context, But I guess within the SEC, Dan,

445
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: what stood out to you the most of those games

446
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Speaker 1: that I just described.

447
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 4: Not of the games. There's only one team that's three

448
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 4: and zer in the SEC, and it's your Texas A

449
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,239
Speaker 4: and M fight. Naggy's right. I don't think Texas has

450
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: played three games. No, George's played five games. They're four

451
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: and one, Andandy's two and one or three and one

452
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 4: in conference. You're right, it's a total blender. Especially not

453
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 4: Ole Miss has lost again tonight to LSU. That was

454
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 4: a wild game, which I'm sure we're going to get

455
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Speaker 4: to of those games. I think the South Carolina Alabama one,

456
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 4: to me is sort of front of mind just what

457
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 4: I know. I, speaking for myself, thought of Alabama going

458
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: into the season. I was higher on the tide than

459
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 4: you were. And Vandy might be decent, and that might

460
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 4: have just been like, look, it's your de facto super Bowl.

461
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: They've got a lot of experience, they're well coached, and

462
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Speaker 4: like it's just going to be one of those weeks

463
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 4: freak things happen. South Carolina has struggled for stretches this year.

464
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: They've also thrived, but they've struggled. And South Carolina not

465
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 4: only wasted opportunities, but wasted opportunities and still had opportunity

466
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Speaker 4: at the end of this game.

467
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Speaker 1: See, here's the thing. We talked about the Vandy Bama

468
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Speaker 1: game a week ago. We both and a lot of

469
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Speaker 1: people around college football media said the same thing. It

470
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Speaker 1: wasn't a fluke. If you watch the game, it wasn't

471
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Speaker 1: a fuke. Van you just beat him. I look at

472
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Speaker 1: this game, I am almost inclined to say that Bama's

473
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Speaker 1: win was a fluke, not wrong, because you're right. South

474
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Speaker 1: Carolina had so many chances. It felt to me like

475
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Speaker 1: they blew it. They had so many chances in this game.

476
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Speaker 1: They turned the ball over four times, two of which

477
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: were absolute momentum killers. They had a fumble after they

478
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Speaker 1: had a safety earlier in the game, then a fumble

479
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: the first play after they had an interception in the

480
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: second half. I think that was one in the end zone.

481
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: They also missed a two point conversion that would have

482
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Speaker 1: tied it. After that miraculous just chucker throw up to

483
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: Nick Harbor that he caught on the front corner of

484
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: the end zone. They recovered at on side kick, which

485
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Speaker 1: maybe was the most beautiful on sidekick these eyes have

486
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: ever seen.

487
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Speaker 4: It's unbelievable. What did you tweet out? Three thousand RPMs

488
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: it had?

489
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Speaker 1: It had like a three thousand rpm horizontally, it was

490
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: just spinning. If you're watching me on it was spinning

491
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: like a top on its side, and it came in

492
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: it like I think the Alabama special teams player did

493
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: his part to try and like, you know, suffocate it,

494
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: do what you would do if you're playing shortstop and

495
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: like knock the hop down, but it had so many

496
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: revolutions on it that there was nothing he could do.

497
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: It bounced off him. They get the on side kick, they.

498
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Speaker 4: Bought mysterious score it through, if you will, the.

499
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Speaker 1: Mysterious score it through. Then they botched the clock management

500
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: to a degree at the end. There were all those

501
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: chances and then there was just sort of like I

502
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: think the basic fundamentals of this game on the Bama side,

503
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Speaker 1: which was they had a hard time blocking South Carolina.

504
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 4: Yes was everyone, to be clear, but yes.

505
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: As does everyone, but you would expect more from Bama.

506
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: Damma had trouble running the football against South Carolina, perhaps

507
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: because of that front and some of their trouble blocking.

508
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure on Jalen Milroe in this

509
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: football game. Dam is obviously a very very good team,

510
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but clearly, Dan, clearly we have

511
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: overestimated where they are at, where they are at Post

512
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: Saban into this Kitlin de Boor era. As you know

513
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: full well from Debor's time at Washington, this was something

514
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: of a hallmark being in these close games, right And

515
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: it's not to say it's going to be this way

516
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: all year, but it has become more of a trend

517
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: than I think we ever could have expected.

518
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: I think there's something about the sec right now that

519
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: the floor seems very high for basically everybody that you

520
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 4: can be pretty sure that every team does two and

521
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: a half things at least very very well. And if

522
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: it's South South Carolina, right, it's getting after the passer,

523
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: it's special teams. It's sort of creating plays out of

524
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 4: nowhere in the case of Lenora's Sellers, and retracting plays

525
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: out of nowhere. Also if you're Lenora's Sellers, and look,

526
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: if you were to bring in somebody that knew nothing

527
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: about the sport you were bringing in, like your a

528
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 4: buddy from Belgium or something, and be like, who do

529
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 4: you think got upset in this game? Or was able

530
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 4: to hold on and avoid the upset? To your point,

531
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: very difficult to see, very difficult to know, given the

532
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 4: back and forth. And like you talk about the pressure

533
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 4: on Jalen Milroe, it's not just pressure from defensive ends

534
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 4: and blitz is. It's there's a pressure put on him

535
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: unofficially by Alabama to do everything, to pick up every yard,

536
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: to make every explosive play. And yes, he's a dual

537
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 4: threat quarterback and that's part of the gig. But with

538
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: no help from the offensive line, inconsistent receiver play, running

539
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: backs not flashing like we thought they would consistently. If

540
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: he's not having a Heisman caliber game, they can lose

541
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 4: to just about everybody in this conference on the right day.

542
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: Well, and what's really interesting now, especially in light of

543
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: what we saw this week, Alabama and Tennessee play next week.

544
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: Georgia and Texas play next week. Right, this SEC schedule

545
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: is only gonna get more interesting now from here on

546
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: out because we have so many questions about these teams.

547
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: The Tennessee game, the Tennessee Florida game, to me, blew

548
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: my mind. Man, that blew my mind, because what's the

549
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: rubbin on Florida. Rub on Florida has been they don't

550
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: play any defense. Three years running now they haven't played

551
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: any defense. Now. I pointed out on the preview that

552
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: I thought there were there were signs there that maybe

553
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: there are aspects of the defense that have improved. It's

554
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: still not a great defense. That being said, this game

555
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: was at home in Neiald Stadium in Knoxville. Three nothing

556
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: at halftime, Yeah, three nothing in favor of Florida, if

557
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: they are of Florida, didn't even score the three points.

558
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: They came on like a freight training. In the end,

559
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: obviously they end up winning this game. So it's a clunker.

560
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: It's a clunker. But the question is, now, after I

561
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: think a couple weeks of signs that Tennessee isn't as

562
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: bulletproof as we thought after the NC State game, it's

563
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: fair to start wondering now where their place is. I

564
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: voted them number one a couple weeks ago, doing that again,

565
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: not doing that again, Dan, So where do we stand here?

566
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: As we look at Tennessee and as we look at

567
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: old miss now and LSU, right, LSU kind of like

568
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: the forgotten team. Amid all this, it's gotten very very

569
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: dicey trying to sort out who belongs where.

570
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 4: It's sort of a case of it's very difficult to

571
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: play a complete game. And we had sort of figured,

572
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 4: maybe or I had sort of figured, speaking for myself,

573
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 4: that based on the first three or four weeks of

574
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: the season, that Tennessee was going to continue to play

575
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 4: to like their ninety fourth percentile performance, ninety eighth percentile,

576
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: ninety first percentile. And then you look at the Oklahoma game,

577
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: which I still claim is decently impressive all things considered.

578
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: On the road, tough place to play, tough defense, Arkansas game,

579
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: and now the Florida game. Ot whin your clunkers. Winning

580
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: is always better than losing. Win is a win, is

581
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: a win. Good teams win. Tennessee's good. They're not great.

582
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 4: They're not on a great tier. They don't show up.

583
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: At the same time, the defense has by and large

584
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: looked really great this year. It's not good enough. It's

585
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 4: not good enough against some of these teams who circle

586
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Tennessee on their schedule. Look at a Tennessee offense with

587
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 4: an inexperienced quarterback and say, I think we can trick

588
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: them a little bit. I think we get under his

589
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: skin a little bit. I think we can make him

590
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 4: think a little bit longer than he'd like to a

591
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 4: little bit. And obviously that's what Florida did today, forced

592
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: him to some mistakes, you know, got the offense out

593
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: of rhythm. Same for Arkansas. Same and especially in that

594
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: second half against Oklahoma. I maintained Tennessee is good, They're

595
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: most certainly not on that top tier right now.

596
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: No, and Ole Miss isn't either. Ole Missus neither. There

597
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: might be a conversation PELLISSH.

598
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: I don't know, But who's on that top tier in

599
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 4: the SEC right now?

600
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: I think it's just Texas.

601
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 4: It's just Texas.

602
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I think it's just Texas.

603
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: What about A and M.

604
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm not putting A and M that high.

605
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 4: Their loss was game one. The wasst was a decent team.

606
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: Their was was game one to a top I would

607
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: say a good team. Yeah, top ten caliber team in

608
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. But outside of that, beat Missoo, I don't

609
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: think we're as.

610
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Sold on the didn't just beat them. They pounded Miszoo

611
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: by thirty one.

612
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 4: They did. What a great team. I don't know if

613
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 4: Texas A and M's great, but they did what a

614
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: great team should do if they're going to be considered great.

615
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: They won a close game against Arkansas twenty one to seven.

616
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: They did, and they won on the road at Florida.

617
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Now their schedule will heat up. Next up, they've got

618
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, but then after that it's LSU on the

619
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: road at South Carolina at Auburn close out the year

620
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: against Texas. We've talked about this before. It's a pretty

621
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: favorable SEC schedule all things considered, I'm not ready to

622
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: put them on that tier. I need to see more

623
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: out of Connor wegg more, out of the version of

624
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Connor Wegman that we saw against Missouri before I'm ready

625
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: to go there with it. But A and M's definitely

626
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: a team that belongs in the conversation at this point.

627
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: I just I think of Texas and then kind of

628
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: a big mishmash, maybe with Georgia at or near the top,

629
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: and then everybody else kind of trying to play ketchup

630
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: after that.

631
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, if you're putting Georgia in the

632
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: top group with how they played against Alabama and how

633
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: close they played against.

634
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying Texas like one A. I know, Georgia like

635
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: one C, and then everybody else kind of right behind Georgia.

636
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: I'm totally with you, and I don't ask this in

637
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 4: a weird way. Doesn't Vandy belong on that second tier

638
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 4: if they're beating can No, don't laugh. If Vandy's beating Kentucky.

639
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 4: What is Kentucky done this year? They beat Ole miss

640
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: in Oxford? Right, they were right there with Georgia. Oh, yes,

641
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: they were. I feel like it's irrefutable that Kentucky has

642
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: an excellent defense. I think they do. I think they

643
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: have a really strong defense.

644
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: This is one of those conversations that we've had over

645
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the last two years with Kansas, frankly, where Kansas actually

646
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: is pretty good and we're so used to them being

647
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: bad right that it feels a little uncomfortable to talk

648
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: about them in any kind of serious contact. And I

649
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: don't mean that in a derogatory sense, but I think

650
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people are there with this and this

651
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: is actually a good Vandy team, Like, they played pretty

652
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, and Kavia they've retooled the offense. I

653
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: mean they are clearly throwing some kind of ephis pitch

654
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: that teams are having a hard time with.

655
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the Mizoo game was winnable, and you can't

656
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: lose to Georgia State if you really want to be

657
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: taken crazy seriously, but within the SEC, and that just

658
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: might have been a lack lesser performance than oversight whatever.

659
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: I think it's a good thing, honestly, where the SEC

660
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 4: is right now.

661
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: It is, It's going to make things very interesting down

662
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: the stretch. We'll unpack this a little bit more on Tuesday,

663
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: especially since the old Miss LSU game was going off

664
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: right as we were about to hit recording.

665
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 4: And to be clear, LSU has not lost in the SEC.

666
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: LSU was not lost in the SEC.

667
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: So they should be in this conversation heavily as well.

668
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: LSU was thirteen in the polls coming into this week.

669
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: My suspicion is with some losses, even without the losses,

670
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: they will find some way to work their way into

671
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: that top ten, because this is a pretty big way,

672
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: and they knocked off number nine Ole Miss. The team

673
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: that I didn't mention in any great detail was the

674
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: Texas long Horns, who won thirty four to three over Oklahoma. Honestly,

675
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: my takeaway is less on the Texas side and more

676
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: on the Oklahoma side.

677
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: Oh that's not nice, that's not fair. But continue, Why

678
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 4: don't you go first to Texas?

679
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: Then tell me what your thoughts are in Texas.

680
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: Quinn Eewers, looked off for a chunk of this game,

681
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 4: found himself as the game war on ran the ball. Well.

682
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: I think Pete Kwikowski's defense, especially those freaking linebackers. Those

683
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 4: guys are everywhere. Colin Simmons, Anthony Hill, those guys like

684
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: so good and we can yes, I think you're right

685
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 4: to say that the more interesting talking point might be

686
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: what's going on with Oklahoma and the injuries and the

687
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: quarterback situation, the offensive situation, and the receivers in the

688
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 4: passing game. I think that's all correct. But what Texas

689
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 4: was able to do in taking care of business against

690
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: what I still think is a really good defense at Oklahoma,

691
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 4: and absolutely no doubt, a lot of teams have left

692
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: out good teams, quality teams, supposedly great teams have left

693
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: out against probably lesser teams. Texas left, no doubt, and

694
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: it was somewhat of a slow start, but they generated turnovers,

695
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 4: They scored off of those turnovers, They leaned, they sat,

696
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: They suffocated your right to sort of put Texas as

697
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: one A right now because they are the team in

698
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 4: the SEC and they're the only team in this moment

699
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: likely depending on ties, Texas A and M fight naggies

700
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: who are playing those upper percentile games and they're playing

701
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 4: those complete games.

702
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: The immediate aftermath of this game, I drew a comparison

703
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: in my mind between what Ohio State did to Iowa

704
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: and what Texas did to Oklahoma, and it kind of

705
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: feels dirty to compare Oklahoma to Iowa. But that's frankly

706
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: just where the offense is at. This is a bad offense. Yeah,

707
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: And more than anything, you can look at the numbers,

708
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: you can understand full well that their top five wide

709
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: receivers are hurt. Whatever it is, they're clearly still going

710
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: through some sort of transition. They yank Jackson Arnold, they

711
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: put in the backup. What I am left with is

712
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: this feeling of hopelessness with their offense. Sure it didn't

713
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: matter what the score was. If you watch that game

714
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: for any period of time, ten minutes, whatever, a couple drives,

715
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: every drive was the same for Oklahoma. Every drive, every

716
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: play was the same, Every passing play was the same.

717
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: Snap the ball, drop back has a second to look around,

718
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: nobody's open, dance around in hopes of maybe finding a

719
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: seam to run through. That was the offense.

720
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: That was it.

721
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: On occasion they hit a play great, but thirty four

722
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: to three was your final And honestly, that makes it

723
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 1: seem closer than it was. As I watched that game,

724
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: I wanted, as somebody who was pretty high on Oklahoma

725
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: coming into this game just because of the rivalry aspect,

726
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: not because of the offense. But these games have always

727
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: defied logic. The Red River games, you know this, They're

728
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: always close. Most often they're close, and so I was

729
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: expected that we would see a little bit more fight

730
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma. This was a hapless offensive effort, and I

731
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: don't know where they go from here. I suspect if

732
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: you get a little bit healthier out why that will help.

733
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: But you still have to have somebody throwing the ball

734
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: and a plan and a lot of plan. And that

735
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: was the other thing too. As I kind of posted

736
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: some stuff online, there were a number of Oklahoma people

737
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: who did chime in and say that was actually their

738
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: biggest problem with it. The biggest problem was they know

739
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: what they're up against, given injury situations. They know what

740
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: they're up against, given it's a good team on the

741
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: other side in Texas with a really solid defense. But

742
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: this sense of not knowing what the plan is makes

743
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: it really hard to feel good about anything. And so

744
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know what to make Oklahoma.

745
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: We knew that the schedule was going to be brutal

746
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: coming into this year. That is no great surprise, but

747
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: I think we all expected that this team would be

748
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: in a much much better place than it is right now.

749
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: On offense, it just it seems like they're playing with

750
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: a well we think is a good defense, but in

751
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: a very Iowa sense no offense.

752
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: There's also this is Brent Minnibles has been there for

753
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: years now, So there's levels to this.

754
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Right.

755
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 4: You take over a team, you try to make it

756
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 4: worth work with whoever's there and any transfers you bring in.

757
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: You see what you have, you see what you don't have.

758
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: You hit the portal some more. You recruit super hard,

759
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 4: you know, is it a quarterback thing? Is it a

760
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: ligne thing? Lines are hard to replace via the portal.

761
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 4: But like you build right, you plug in gaps. You

762
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 4: figure out what kind of team you want to be.

763
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 4: You bring in Jeff Levy, Okay, you want to be

764
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: like a pace lane Kiffanny that like that kind of system,

765
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 4: that's what you want to be. Great, let's find the

766
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: next guy who believes in something similar, and let's find

767
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: a quarterback who fits that. Oh it's Jackson Arnold. Great,

768
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: he's going to run a similar type system. Great. Who's

769
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: the coordinator? Oh, Seth Latrell, we're going internal with it. Okay,

770
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: are they running the same thing? No? Yes, kind of

771
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: sort of like it just seems like the it's tapering off,

772
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 4: and injuries are a big deal with it. But if

773
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: you're Brent Venables and you're recruiting super well and your

774
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 4: transfer destination, which they should be Oklahoma always should be,

775
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: it's a huge deal. It's a huge program. And this

776
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: is what they look like in year three after benching

777
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 4: their five star, blue chip quarterback of the future and

778
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: sort of abandoning, essentially abandoning that path for the program.

779
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: And he's gone by he's gonna leave after the Oh yeah,

780
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's not official official obviously, but I

781
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: think we can see the riding on the wall because

782
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: that's where college football is. Jackson Arnold's gonna leave now,

783
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: and so you've alienated that option, right, And he has

784
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: recruited fairly well obviously as you as you said, you know,

785
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: he's been able to make it something of a transfer

786
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: destination for guys like Dion Burks or whoever. Right, I mean,

787
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: it's still Oklahoma. But on some level, yeah, that does

788
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: start to wear off. And if they look like this

789
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: the rest of the way against the SEC, I mean,

790
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 1: this is just really bad. It was really bad against

791
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: your biggest rival, and this is the kind of stuff

792
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: that drives people crazy when you lose to your rival

793
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: like this.

794
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 4: And it's an ideal situation, right If Brent Ventnables is

795
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 4: going to recruit a defense, if he's going to build

796
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 4: up depth, if the talent level is going to be

797
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: super high, it should be crazy attractive to the best

798
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators, the best transfer quarterbacks. The mean, I know

799
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: it's not attractive if you know Jackson Arnold is the

800
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 4: obvious starter, the best transfer receivers, like the best up

801
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: and coming offensive linemen in high school like Oklahoma should

802
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: be it. And even in the move to the SEC

803
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: in year three, there's this kind of falloff. I don't know, man,

804
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 4: it's pretty worrying.

805
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the vibes at Oklahoma are bad, yeah, and

806
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: I think it's meaningful to say that they're worse at

807
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: Oklahoma right now, at least from the sentiment that I've gotten.

808
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: You can you guys can yell at me if I'm

809
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: wrong about this. Right from just kind of the straw

810
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: poles that I took, seems like it's way worse at

811
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma than it is at Florida. It's been horrible at Florida,

812
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: but at least it feels like they fought in this

813
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: game against Tennessee. And I again I maintain that that

814
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Florida has gotten better and is not bad as many

815
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: people might think given the narratives that are out there.

816
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: But Oklahoma just feels different right now. It's not a

817
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: good thing. It's not good at all.

818
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: Where are we going next? Acc Big twelve? Anywhere?

819
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: Well?

820
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: Cam Rising was back.

821
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: Camp Rising was back.

822
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Cam Rising was back on Friday night against Arizona State.

823
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Did you see Kenny Dillingham on the field after Arizona

824
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: State won that game?

825
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: I mean, speaking like a Dan Lanning protege cutting a

826
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: wrestling promo after a win.

827
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, sounded like you.

828
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: I know he did, absolutely, he left it all out

829
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: on the field.

830
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I love this guy. I love everything he stands for.

831
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: I love the fire that his teams play with. I

832
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: love the fact that they are pesky as hell, that

833
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: they are still rebuilding. Yeah. I love the fact that

834
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: he inherited a mess and has turned it very quickly

835
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: into something that is It changes week to week, as

836
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: it did last year when they were running weird set.

837
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: They again are doing really creative stuff with offense. If

838
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: you watch that game, some of the play calls, and

839
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: it just seems like they are having fun out there.

840
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: Be real ty. You love Cam Scataboo's mid section. I mean,

841
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: who doesn't. Yeah, of course, of course, But they win

842
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: this game. They win this game by a twenty seven

843
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: to nineteen score over Utah, which only further makes the

844
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Big twelve in a state of disarray. I can't help

845
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: but feel very underwhelmed now that Cam Rising is back,

846
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: Like we waited all this time for him to come back.

847
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: I thought he looked bad. I don't know if it

848
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: was rust. I don't know if he's still hurt. He's

849
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: still hurt. I mean he three picks, I mean, and

850
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: they were ducks. Dan. It didn't seem like his passes

851
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: had any I compared him to you when we talked

852
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: earlier to Eddie Harris for Major League One, there was

853
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: just no zip on anything. He's got the glove on

854
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: it just it felt very off. He was late, he

855
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: was behind guys. If this is what Utah was hoping

856
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: to get back, maybe not this version of him, but

857
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: the version that they got was not good enough to

858
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: beat a team like an Asuasu by the ways five

859
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: and one point that out.

860
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: But coming for that big twelve.

861
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: ASU winning twenty seven to nineteen over Utah on Friday

862
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: was a very big deal. We've also got this situation

863
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: now where BYU continues to roll in the conference. They

864
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: hammered Arizona forty one to nineteen, and again the weird

865
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: thing about bau BYU is something of a mirage. Now,

866
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: maybe not the kind of mirage that I said before

867
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: where I don't trust them at all, right, but they're

868
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: the type of mirage that if you don't watch the

869
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: games and simply look at the stats, you will look

870
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: at the score and say, how did they win?

871
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 5: Right?

872
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: How did they score forty one points with these numbers?

873
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: Well, today's mirage was they made their secondary look like

874
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 4: Arizona players. And know if of PA kept throwing it

875
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: into that mirage.

876
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: So we've got the BYU thing. We had Iowa State

877
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: going on the road and taking it to West hand.

878
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 4: My lot in West Virginia.

879
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,919
Speaker 1: Which is a real nice win for Iowa State, who

880
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: is borderline top ten team there. Quietly cleared their way

881
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: up there. So good to go on the road to

882
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: West Virginia and more.

883
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 4: Jada Higgins Higgins for Iowa State, Rocco your bore. Another

884
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: really strong knight from him on the road. The defense

885
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 4: really tightened up against CJ. CJ. Donaldson and Jaim White, like,

886
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, This Iowa State team is something good.

887
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: And then we've got the game that's going on now

888
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: as we're recording, which is in the third quarter. Let's

889
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: try not to do what we did with Miami a

890
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: week ago and we talked about any team winning or losing.

891
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: Will just say that the game is on going between

892
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: k State and Colorado.

893
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 4: Just track a reaction to each of the potential outcomes. Yeah,

894
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: Colorado came back and won. Oh my god, that was

895
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 4: so crazy. He super impressive by the boffs oh Man,

896
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 4: Kansas State hang hung on Man. Good win for Chris

897
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 4: Climbing and the boys on the road. There we go.

898
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: Clearly, we need to see what the result of this

899
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: game is. We will talk about this on Tuesday before

900
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: we can draw any hard conclusions about the state of

901
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. But at least where I'm at right now,

902
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: I still favor and no disrespect to our BYU people

903
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: that listen, who rightfully pointed out to me very kindly

904
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: that I need to do in about face on BYU,

905
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: They're not wrong.

906
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 4: Now, look, if I'm gonna claim winning is a skill,

907
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 4: ty winning as a scale for BYU.

908
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm still an Iowa State guy at present.

909
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: I still think I put Iowa State up here. But

910
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 1: then just by default, I mean, we have to start

911
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: talking about BYU. Seriously. I think the winner of this

912
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 1: Kansas State Colorado game also clearly deserves to be as

913
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: part of that conversation. We are seeing a interesting creep

914
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: of that top tier of the Big Twelve. And it's

915
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: some teams we expected, some that we didn't. And again

916
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I am left with more questions than answers because it

917
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: feels like everybody's got a fatal flaw. Maybe with the

918
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: exception of Iowa State, it seems to be rolling.

919
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: I can tell you this, Ty, The C in TLC

920
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: is creep. If you're talking creep, might just be Cincinnati tie.

921
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: It's not c for Central Florida. It's not that Oho

922
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 4: bench kJ Jefferson and lost to Sincy. But no, that's

923
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 4: an interesting tier tie a top the Big twelve.

924
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: Right now. The Utah situation I think is probably the

925
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: most disappointing. I really don't know where to put Utah anymore,

926
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: and especially if this is the version of came raising

927
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: that we're going to get.

928
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 4: Utah, Oklahoma State, and Kansas are combined one in eight

929
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 4: in this conference. That's unreal, unbelievable.

930
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: All right, our next point here, I don't even know

931
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: what we're up to. It doesn't matter. The acc And

932
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: as I said at the top, the most interesting middle

933
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: class in college football maybe in the world, in our

934
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: great land here in an election year. You've got Clemson,

935
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: You've got Miami. Okay, Clemson was down early against wake Forest,

936
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: struggled very very early against wake Forest, and then when

937
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: on a forty nine to seven run the rest of

938
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: the way zoomed out to the lead. They won forty

939
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: nine to fourteen. Obviously, we know that Miami played. They

940
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: were in a tight one last week. They ended up

941
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: winning Clemson in Miami. Clearly are in that upper crust

942
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: at this point. You got a bunch of teams right

943
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: below them, though, that are damn interesting, Dan, damn interesting.

944
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: You got teams like Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech. Did you

945
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: see the way Georgia Tech won against North Carolina?

946
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: Of course I did.

947
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: If you are a North Carolina fan. That was an

948
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: absolute stomach punch. So it's the final play, basically the

949
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: final play of the game where the trender on the

950
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: clock out and Jamal Haynes breaks through for a sixty

951
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown run which gave him the lead and

952
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: the eventual win. Three seventy one and five touchdowns on

953
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: the ground for Georgia Tech. They are obviously very good

954
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: on offense. Defensively, that's kind of where the question is there. Pitt.

955
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: Pitt did not play a great game. Justin Wilcox totally

956
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: had Eli Holstein in a bit of a headlock. Pitt

957
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: ends up winning seventeen to fifteen. My pit minus three

958
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: lock did not hit, though Pitt did win. We had

959
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: Louisville going up against Virginia. Virginia, by the way, plays

960
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams down the stretch.

961
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 4: I would it say, up late, by the way, Yeah.

962
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Up late. They end up covering the points spread at home.

963
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Louisvio gets a win, gets off the schneid after losing

964
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: two in a row. But Virginia is a team that

965
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: is worth monitoring, if only because they are going to

966
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: have a large part to play and who ends up

967
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: winning this conference. Also Syracuse five and one Syracuse knocked

968
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: off NC State. I think our opinions of NC State

969
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: have been dampened a bit since the start of the season.

970
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 4: Somehow, fifty eight teams are five and one as I

971
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: look at these standings.

972
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: A bunch of teams and by the way, my SMU Mustangs,

973
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: who I left for dead. But I think I'm coming

974
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: back to now now because it seems as if they

975
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: have really found themselves over the last couple of weeks.

976
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: So it's like I almost don't know who the worst

977
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: teams are in the ACC, because it feels like there

978
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: are a growing number of schools that I want to

979
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: put in that middle tier of teams that could knock

980
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: each other off or maybe give those two schools in

981
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: the upper crust to run for their money.

982
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's probably Florida State in this moment,

983
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 4: even though they've technically won an ACC game over Cal.

984
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: Although beating Cal to me is still not an ACC game.

985
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 4: I don't care what the standings call Cal in terms

986
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 4: of their home conference. NC State's one of the worst.

987
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: North Carolina is one of the worst. I thought Wake

988
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: put up an interesting performance for a minute against Clemson,

989
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: but I don't know. I think Stanford's probably in that

990
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: conversation right now, by the way, if I can just

991
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 4: like veer just slightly off for a second. I was

992
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: totally gutted by the Tailee Kraft stuff of North Carolina.

993
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 4: Like I know, this has been sort of like an

994
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: ongoing thing, and to hear about his passing for North

995
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 4: Carolina and to see Mac Brown with his family like

996
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: that snaps me out of like football brains so quickly. Yeah,

997
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 4: and just super heartbreaking, And obviously our thoughts go out

998
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 4: to the North Carolina community.

999
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, tough stuff, man, Yeah awful.

1000
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean on a much more you know,

1001
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 4: on a much less important note. Whatever, ACC is really fun.

1002
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 4: It's really really fun football for the most part, especially

1003
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: story wise, right with where Syracuse has been, with where

1004
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: Pitt has been, with the mystery of SMU, Like, I

1005
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: don't know, Virginia looking pretty feisty this year. Boston College,

1006
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: we didn't know what to expect, and they come out

1007
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: of the gates strong. I don't know how impressed I

1008
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 4: am by the actual top of this conference in terms

1009
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: of comparing them against some of the better teams in

1010
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: this country. But like as I messaged you earlier, nobody's

1011
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 4: anything ty, No, nobody is anything in this sport. Penn

1012
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 4: State's good, maybe Penn State's not good. Ohio State's good,

1013
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 4: maybe Ohio. I mean Ohio State is likely excellence, Oregon

1014
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 4: is likely excellent, Texas is likely excellent. But like outside

1015
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 4: of six or seven teams that we think are likely

1016
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: very strong, you know, it's weak to week, and that's great.

1017
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: It's weak tweet. The ACC is definitely worth monitoring because again,

1018
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 1: I think we've got this growing middle class with teams

1019
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: that are are just interesting.

1020
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 4: Right.

1021
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: There is the Notre Dame story too, which is sort

1022
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: of acc adjacent the Stanford this week, but Notre Dame

1023
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: goes out there a couple of weeks back, they lose

1024
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 1: to NIU. And I have been here on this show

1025
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks running now saying Riley Leonard,

1026
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 1: ain't that good? Ain't that good? He is not him?

1027
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: They're not getting what they wanted from Riley Way. But

1028
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: well they have started to kind.

1029
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 4: Of give me that big stanky butt.

1030
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: They have started to rejigger things a little bit. Yeah,

1031
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: and I think what we saw today, albeit against Stanford,

1032
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: was very promising. Riley Leonard completed passes to eleven different receivers.

1033
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: He was much more likely to go down the field,

1034
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: seemed comfortable doing so, was throwing passes on a rope

1035
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: over the middle to guys, running slants, things of that nature.

1036
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: It didn't seem as if he was snapping the ball

1037
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: and looking at the line the way that he had

1038
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: in previous games this season. There was a little less

1039
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: inclination to snap the ball and then automatically run. He

1040
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: still ran a fair amount. That is clearly going to

1041
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: be part of this offense moving forward, right, There's no

1042
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: secret about that. But it seems as if there was

1043
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: a concerted effort through Notre Dames by week and then

1044
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 1: today in this game against Stanford to try and develop

1045
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: that passing game a little bit more. It felt a

1046
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: lot more balanced. To me. I am taking it with

1047
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: a grain of salt because it's Stanford, Okay, I get that,

1048
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: But just to see it on display I think was

1049
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: really really promising.

1050
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 4: Now, who's the biggest challenge left?

1051
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: Sc the biggest challenge. The biggest challenge left is definitely

1052
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: USC You could probably make a case for Army. You

1053
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: could probably make a case for a Navy. I don't

1054
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: know if that's the kind of case that's going to

1055
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: hold up around the office water cooler. Okay, I've been

1056
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: in those conversations people kind of shrug off a service academy,

1057
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: even if they're undefeated and actually quite good in their

1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: own right. They also have Georgia Tech this coming week.

1059
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 4: It's three good running teams for if I mean usc

1060
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 4: Is too, it's a lot of teams that are gonna

1061
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 4: either win or lose that game on the ground.

1062
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: So there are some teams coming up here that I

1063
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: that I think offer an interesting wrinkle that Notre Dame

1064
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: is going to have to get ten with. I don't

1065
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: know if any of them are balanced enough on both

1066
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: sides of the football or on both sides of one

1067
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: side of the football to truly knock them off. But

1068
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: we did see and I you do it in Notre

1069
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: Dame Stadium a couple of weeks ago. So who's to say.

1070
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: I just Notre Dame is interesting because they've got one loss,

1071
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: because the schedule is incredibly favorable, and because I think

1072
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: what we saw today was a step forward. So I

1073
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 1: remain optimistic.

1074
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: Where do they measure up in terms of, you know,

1075
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 4: the nation's best right now? If they're likely going to

1076
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, win double digit game.

1077
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna win double digit games. I think at this

1078
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: point anything less than ten and two is an abject failure.

1079
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: I have them right now kind of on the fringes

1080
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: of the top ten, on the fringes of the top ten,

1081
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: and you know that's subject to change each week, because

1082
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: I think many of the same curiosities we have about

1083
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame could be asked about a number of the

1084
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: teams in front of them right.

1085
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: Now that in Iowa State on a neutral field.

1086
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: I probably would go Notre Dame over Iowa State neutral field. Yeah, interesting, Okay,

1087
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: But a number of the teams in front of them,

1088
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: maybe not Texas, maybe not Ohio State and Oregon, maybe

1089
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: not Penn State, But most of the others that we

1090
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: would put in that top ten a lot have the

1091
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: same questions as Notre Dame. Even if some of those

1092
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: teams got more talent, it's I don't know's it's a

1093
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: very very interesting spot for them right now. Provided they

1094
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: keep winning, they're gonna work their way back into this thing.

1095
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: Whether you like them or not, They're gonna end up

1096
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: in the playoff.

1097
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 4: Yep.

1098
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: That's just where we're at here with this A few

1099
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: other things that I did want to mention before we

1100
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: get to your tweets, before we get to your reverbs,

1101
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,959
Speaker 1: we mentioned Army. Army continues absolutely pounding everyone in its path.

1102
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: They beat UAB forty four to ten. I wish I

1103
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: would have locked up Army.

1104
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 4: It seemed obvious.

1105
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: It seemed obvious they were about a four touchdown favorite.

1106
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: I saw that. I freaked out a little bit. But

1107
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: UAB doesn't play defense in this game. They didn't play

1108
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: offense either, which has sort of been their thing. At

1109
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: forty four to ten, I mean, they are just killing

1110
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: teams right now, and they are going to have a

1111
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: very very interesting case in that American Conference. I still

1112
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: think Boise is probably your G five representative push comes

1113
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: to shove. But if Boise drops a game, if it

1114
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: does end up being Army Navy for the American title,

1115
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: I still think that is a very very compelling storyline

1116
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: to pay atten. Navy didn't play today, but Army did.

1117
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: Army one by thirty four. I also want to give

1118
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: a shout out to the Chokethold Baby Okay, Nevada knocked

1119
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: off Oregon State forty two to thirty seven. Nevada was

1120
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: by our projections by many projections, one of the worst

1121
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: teams in college football coming into this season. It seemed

1122
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: like a total rebuild. It's such just a tough job.

1123
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: It's a tough job. This this program was ripped down

1124
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: to the studs. They gave it to Jeff Choate and

1125
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: they have been pesky as hell. They have been a

1126
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: pesky team. To beat Oregon State today is a really

1127
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: big deal for them, So kudos to Nevada for a

1128
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: job well done. Sorry Oregon State people who are out there, I.

1129
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 4: Got it, it didn't sound like you were that Sorry.

1130
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm sorry. I'm not sorry. Wazoo knocked off

1131
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: Fresno in a game that was of particular interest. This

1132
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: is one that I think you were pretty high on

1133
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: Wazoo coming into it.

1134
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: Do they went on a pick six? Did I see that?

1135
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1136
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 4: Just recorded?

1137
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was midway through the fourth quarter,

1138
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: and effectively it costs Fresno the game. From Mike vi Kean,

1139
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Fresno's defense seems like it is coming back after what

1140
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: was a really bad season a year ago. Right, And

1141
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if the Washington State offense was super impressive,

1142
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: there were it was very conservative it felt kind of

1143
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: like it went away for long stretches of this game,

1144
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: and Fresno had chances, they did they they kind of

1145
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 1: did themselves in in this one, Dan. So it's one

1146
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: of those deals where if you're a Fresno fan, you

1147
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: kind of feel sick because I think you feel like

1148
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: maybe you had better opportunities in this one instead he

1149
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: end up losing by eight. Yep, shall we read some

1150
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: of those tweets that would love floating around the reballer hood.

1151
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: We asked you throughout the course of today. I am

1152
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: a blank fan, and right about now I feel blank

1153
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: role play I'm with me? Who the hell am? I

1154
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: went all across the web, on Twitter, on Facebook, on Instagram,

1155
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: you name it. We got a ton of responses here,

1156
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: some conflict frankly with one another, many in a green

1157
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: pull out, some for me that are exciting to you.

1158
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm a Texas fan and I'm feeling oh so back, baby,

1159
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: all those years and the trenches and the haters are

1160
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 4: real quiet right now. I got pseudo yelled at by

1161
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: my brother in law, who is a diehard Texas fan

1162
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: and alum, and he's like, you should be saying nice

1163
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: stuff now, you should be saying nice stuff. Blake Texas

1164
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 4: is very good at college football.

1165
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1166
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: I'm an Iowa State fan and I'm feeling a heartburn. Okay,

1167
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: I'm an Iowa State fan and I'm feeling undefeated. That's good.

1168
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 4: I'm a West Virginia fan and don't know how to

1169
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: feel as we are three and three and our losses

1170
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 4: are the teams who are combined eighteen and Oh so

1171
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: if Notre Dame is an opponent snob, then West Virginia

1172
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 4: is a lost snob. Yeah, the only lose to undefeated teams.

1173
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 4: I'm a Wisconsin fan, feeling happy to watch football for

1174
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 4: the first time in five years. Destroyed Rutgers tie as

1175
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 4: imposing my voice.

1176
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to bring up some of these points

1177
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: here as we as we close out the show, some

1178
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: of these finer points that we didn't get through at

1179
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, but yeah, that was something else with

1180
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: what Wisconson did to Rutgers.

1181
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm a Clemson fan. I'm feeling hidden and happy. Okay,

1182
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 4: Doak John. I'm an Oregon fan and I'm feeling sweaty,

1183
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 4: real moist all over. Okay, Brandon, I'm a UCF fan

1184
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: and I'm feeling like gusher retired to the country club

1185
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 4: golf course. It's not been a great stretch. No, No,

1186
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 4: have not been great.

1187
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: They haven't put up twenty points in consecutive weeks and

1188
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: they've lost three in a row.

1189
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 4: Now, I'm a Notre Dame fan and I'm feeling bored.

1190
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 4: The schedule sucks and I want to see meaningful games.

1191
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 4: Fair a Penn State fan and feeling freaking fantastic, huge, gutsy,

1192
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 4: meaningful win. Penn State did what only a school like

1193
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 4: Minnesota could do and beat us.

1194
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Like yeah, By the way, for people who are watching

1195
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: on camera, I am paging through all the responses that

1196
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: we got when I pose the same question out on Instagram.

1197
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm a Michigan fan. I'm feeling utterly disappointed, but still

1198
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: salivating over last year's title. Good South Carolina fan feeling

1199
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: crushed dot dot dot again. I'm a Florida fan. Even

1200
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: though uh it's ten ten right now in the third quarter,

1201
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: I feel like the game is over. I'm a Vols fan.

1202
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: I feel broken inside.

1203
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 4: Oh in a win.

1204
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: A lot of big emotions here, big emotions coming through

1205
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: in the verbowler hood. Love that we appreciate everybody writing

1206
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: in some of the points that were mentioned here that

1207
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: we I don't think had a chance to get through.

1208
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, we talked a lot about what transpired in

1209
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: the ACC but some of these other games in the

1210
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Big Ten, Iowa throttled Washington. Man Iowa throttled Washington. They

1211
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: turned Will Rogers over a couple times. They had a

1212
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: fumble and a pick. I was essentially running the Michigan offense.

1213
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: Is what I'm gonna start saying now, mm hmmm, because

1214
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: Kay McNamara had one hundred and eight passing yards, two touchdowns,

1215
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: but just went away through the air in the ground.

1216
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: Did I was leading receiver have one catch for thirty yards?

1217
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: Was that's what I saw? Correct?

1218
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: I believe so. But a big win forty to sixteen.

1219
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 4: Huge twenty and a half split it evenly.

1220
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: Forty to sixteen over Washington in a dominant effort. You

1221
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: mentioned the Wisconsin game, they outgained Rutgers five forty nine

1222
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: to two seventy one. YEP, Rutgers also running a bit

1223
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: of the Michigan offense with one hundred and three passing yards.

1224
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: The Illinois Perdue game was kind of nuts.

1225
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: Whoa wild game.

1226
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Perdue was down twenty seven to three at halftime,

1227
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: they mounted a furious comeback, still lost, mind you, forty

1228
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: second half points. Yeah, fifty to forty nine was your

1229
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: final Illinois wins that game. Yes, And then if you

1230
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,959
Speaker 1: go back to earlier in the week, we had Northwestern

1231
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: winning by twenty seven over Maryland thirty seven to.

1232
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 4: Ten in College Park.

1233
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, in College Park. A lot to unpack with all

1234
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 1: of those game games. As for what else transpired around

1235
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: the country, Dan, We've got some of these games that

1236
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: are going on now, and we've got some more Group

1237
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: of five action that I think we need to get

1238
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: through on Tuesday. But by and large, that is what

1239
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: the verballer hood was reacting to. Here are your week

1240
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: seven reverbs. You gave us a call it a five

1241
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: to five verbel three. Have listen.

1242
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 5: This is Will from Maine. What is happening? Oklahoma can't

1243
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 5: play offense, Georgia and Alabama can't play defense. Army is

1244
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: six and oh well, at least you Mass still sucks,

1245
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 5: so that's a comfort.

1246
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: Hey, this is Heather from Montreal, Canada.

1247
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 4: It's Lindsay Sun Louisville, dam and Tye.

1248
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: It's Jeffrey call him live from the State Bear Texas.

1249
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: It's not that Texas croc Pott in Oklahoma. Today we

1250
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 1: beat sprite up okamoar tie Dan, guess who got murdered.

1251
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 4: Texas on top and oh you sucks Hookham horns, Dan Ti.

1252
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: The Hawks were rolling, so you know I had to

1253
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: go visit the Best Video Games Star and all the

1254
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: land quick save games with Madison Wisconsin, Go Hawks and

1255
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: go quick save games.

1256
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 5: Just wondering.

1257
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 1: Alabama beat Georgia.

1258
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 5: But did they realize that they had the rest of

1259
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 5: the season to finish.

1260
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: It's time to talk to your kids about James Franklin

1261
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: winning a big game on the road.

1262
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: We all have.

1263
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 5: Baby pitt did a Pittsburgh week thing for this game.

1264
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: They had Patnar Doozy dress up as mister Rogers.

1265
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 5: I can't imagine a worse neighbor than Patnar Doze.

1266
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: He would be yelling and all the children, the children

1267
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: would not want to come to his house.

1268
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: All right, that's a bit. Let's go. If we've learned

1269
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 2: one thing about Illinois this year, if you do not

1270
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 2: drop back pass against them in overtime on the game

1271
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: deciding play when you're Clunker's baby.

1272
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: Hello, I don't know if BYU is actually that good

1273
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: but I'm living in the moment.

1274
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 4: Go Cube.

1275
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: This is Shay.

1276
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: I have a message for presnes State starting quarterback mikey Keane.

1277
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 5: It's something my dad would say to me all the

1278
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,479
Speaker 5: time when I was growing up. I'm not mad, I'm

1279
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 5: just disappointed.

1280
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: If you're ain't Gator, you're Gator bait, and tonight the

1281
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee balls on Gator bait.

1282
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 5: Five and one solid matters.

1283
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: Quack quack, crack quack crying, Ryan Day, go duck from

1284
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 3: your friends in aunt Alba.

1285
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 5: There are no words, there are no emotions. There is

1286
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 5: no way I can describe.

1287
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: How I feel right now other than than grabbing my

1288
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: wife and together yelling good.

1289
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 3: Tie.

1290
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: Dan.

1291
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: I've only got one percent left on my phone, and

1292
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: all I gotta say is.

1293
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: Do you picked ten teams still seem to understand We're

1294
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: not trapped in you with you? You're trapped in you

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Speaker 3: with docs?

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Speaker 2: Go doc?

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Speaker 1: Did I catch a UMass stray at the very top

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Speaker 1: of that, Dan.

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Speaker 4: I believe so you mass still sucks something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yep, big emotions coming through. Thank you to everyone who

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Speaker 1: dialed in at eight five or five well three, got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of calls. Of course that we left on

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Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. Thanks to our guy Shay for

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Speaker 1: putting those together as he does wonderfully week in and

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Speaker 1: week out. Again, as a reminder, we will be doing

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Speaker 1: our spillover show on Tuesday, being so we're reacting kind

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Speaker 1: of in the moment here. There are not only games

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Speaker 1: still going on, but games that we want to go

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Speaker 1: back and rewatch. We just can't watch all of the games.

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Speaker 1: We're only two people, so give us that grace. We

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Speaker 1: will do our part to go back and put together

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Speaker 1: a more comprehensive look at what we missed as part

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Speaker 1: of that Tuesday episode. Hit Fall, Hit subscribe if you

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Speaker 1: have yet to do so so that you don't miss

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Speaker 1: that episode or any of our episodes. We of course

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody reacting with us, and we would encourage you

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Speaker 1: to reach out on social media. Give us a holler

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Speaker 1: at soliverble at gmail dot com. However you can get

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Speaker 1: in touch. We'd love to hear what your thoughts are

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Speaker 1: on the week, what we got right, what we got wrong.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I feel like we mostly get right

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Speaker 1: with the exception of last week because it was a

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Speaker 1: crazy week and I forgot to do it. Let's do

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Speaker 1: our doodle worts. Shall we let's we do this every week?

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Speaker 1: We want to honor the so called dudes in college football.

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Speaker 1: The guys would put in performances that are dude worthy. Dan,

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Speaker 1: Who do we got this week?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: I've got Penn States, Tyler Warren, I've got tight end,

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Speaker 4: Tyler Warren, I've got do everything Penn State or Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 4: I have thorn and usc side Tyler Warren. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: put this on our list with Tyler Warren dot dot

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Speaker 4: dot easy obviously, Caleb Johnson, Luke Altmeyer, is it Tawie Walker?

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Speaker 4: This game was on mute for me Wisconsin running wild,

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Speaker 4: Isaac Brown Louisville for Louisville in a winning effort. Ryan Brown,

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Speaker 4: new quarterback for Purdue in a losing effort, was all

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Speaker 4: over the place in a dual threat capacity. Christian McCrae,

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Speaker 4: Evan Stewart for Oregon. Ricky White hohum another day, another

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Speaker 4: one hundred plus yard performance, a couple touchdowns I had?

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Speaker 4: Who else did I have here on my list? Dj

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Speaker 4: Giddens is live and at almost two hundred yards with

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Speaker 4: twelve minutes left in the game against Colorado for Kansas State.

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Speaker 4: Parker Navarro. What does Ohio do? They just keep winning.

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Speaker 4: Ohio just keeps on winning. And I have CJ. Bailey

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Speaker 4: NC State in a losing effort, a bunch of losing

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Speaker 4: eth for performances. He seems to be quietly coming into

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Speaker 4: his own. Hopefully that's some hope for the future for

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Speaker 4: the Pack.

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Speaker 1: And just because we don't mention this, we will get

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Speaker 1: angry messages Bryce and daily from Army.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yes, who turned in another good performance, had like the

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Speaker 1: random eighty four yard touchdown pass to Ketch.

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Speaker 4: Always has to happen, always you hate be off guard.

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Speaker 1: But rush for one point thirty six and four touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in addition to one hundred and two through the air

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Speaker 1: in that long touchdown. So Army keeps things rolling. They

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Speaker 1: had four hundred and thirteen yards on the crowd in

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Speaker 1: this game against UAB Sure why not six and L

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Speaker 1: Six and L for the first time in a while.

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Speaker 1: So good.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's Navy's record.

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Speaker 1: Navy is also undefeated. But Navy was on bye this week.

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Speaker 4: They were on by this week, and so that game

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Speaker 4: still on the table for the American Championship with a

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Speaker 4: potential playoff berth on the line ahead of another Army

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Speaker 4: Navy matchup in the standard scheduling matchup.

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Speaker 1: Will be very interesting to see. Still on the transpires,

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Speaker 1: it's a much easier path, I would say, for Army

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Speaker 1: than it is for Navy. But it seems to me

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Speaker 1: like both are headed there sooner than later, So I'll see.

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Speaker 1: Thank you one, thank you all for tuning in with

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Speaker 1: us as we react to all things. Week seven it

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Speaker 1: was another banger of a week. Guess what week ate,

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Speaker 1: It's going to be another.

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Speaker 4: Banger of Oh I can't wait. It looks so good.

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Speaker 1: Get your chores in throughout the week. We will be

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Speaker 1: with you on Tuesday and on Thursday to help you

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Speaker 1: prep accordingly. But we have now rounded this bend DAN

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Speaker 1: officially into the second half of the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: college football season, and this is when things are going

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Speaker 1: to get interesting. These are when conferences are going to

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01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: break themselves into pieces and reform before our very eyes

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Speaker 1: in probably shapes and colors and whatever that we could

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Speaker 1: not have possibly expected. That seems to be their oad

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Speaker 1: we were walking down. So I'm excited to walk that

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Speaker 1: path with you, and of course with Arvor baller hood.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you hit follow, make sure you hit subscribe,

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Speaker 1: to vote in the poll, and as always, give us

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Speaker 1: a holler. We'd love to hear from you. For myself,

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Speaker 1: Ty Hildenbrandt or that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein. Thank you so much for downloading, listing, supporting,

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us once more, We'll talk y'all. Seesday

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Speaker 1: out peace,