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Speaker 1: The Michael Arry Show.

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Speaker 2: If you've been paying any attention, you've heard democrats out

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Speaker 2: there say something like this.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump's modern day Escapo is scooping folks up off

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Speaker 3: the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped

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Speaker 3: off to foreign torture dungeons. No chance to mount of defense,

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Speaker 3: not even a chance to kiss the loved one goodbye,

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Speaker 3: just grabbed up by massed agents, shoved into those vans

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Speaker 3: and disappeared.

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Speaker 2: I'm Rich Lowery of National Review, and let's think about

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Speaker 2: how dumb, wrong and dangerous this kind of rhetoric is.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen thirty four, the Castapo carried out an internal

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Speaker 2: purge against Chancellor Adolph Hitler's political enemies, known as the

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Speaker 2: Knight of the Long Knives. In twenty twenty five, Ice

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Speaker 2: is arresting illegal immigrants to make sure that they aren't

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Speaker 2: evading lawful immigration proceedings. Can you spot the difference? Can

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Speaker 2: you spot the difference? Well, many on the left can't

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Speaker 2: or won't.

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Speaker 4: When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing

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Speaker 4: grabbing people off the streets of Poland, and you'll compare

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Speaker 4: them to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that that student,

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Speaker 4: that graduate student. It does look like a Gestapo operation.

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Speaker 2: One problem with this, obviously, is that if ICE is

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Speaker 2: a Gestapo serving a quasi Nazi regime, then any means

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Speaker 2: necessary to try to stop it are justified. We don't

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Speaker 2: criticize or look down on the people in Nazi Germany

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Speaker 2: who tried to assassinate Hitler or try to topple the

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Speaker 2: regime from within. We valorize them, We make movies about them. Now,

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Speaker 2: the people who buy into this Gestapo and Nazi rhetoric

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Speaker 2: also understand the very intuitive and very simple moral logic involved,

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Speaker 2: and that's one reason we've seen this series of attacks

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Speaker 2: on ICE facilities and ICE agents, including this horrific shooting

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Speaker 2: in Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 5: I can confirm at this time that the FBI is

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Speaker 5: investigating this incident as an act of targeted violence. It is, unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: just the most recent example we've seen of targeted violence

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Speaker 5: to include here in North Texas. We're back on July fourth,

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Speaker 5: we saw a coordinate attack carried out against an immigration

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Speaker 5: detention center in Alboreto, Texas. What I can also share

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Speaker 5: with you is that early evidence that we've seen from

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Speaker 5: rounds that were found near the suspected shooter, contain messages

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Speaker 5: that are anti ice in nature.

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Speaker 2: Why does the left field this bizarre compulsion to call

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Speaker 2: its opponents Nazis and fascists and all the rest of

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Speaker 2: it doesn't matter whether it computes at all. George W. Bush,

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Speaker 2: who made a point of being a so called compassionate conservative,

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Speaker 2: was called a Nazi back in the day. I think

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Speaker 2: the left just loves the feel of this charge, how

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Speaker 2: it sounds, loves the sheer maliciousness of it. Now, of

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Speaker 2: course Notnazism is not a point on the American political

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Speaker 2: spectrum such that if you are a click or to

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Speaker 2: to the right of the old Republican consensus, you must

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Speaker 2: be a Nazi. Moreover, it's deeply anti American to believe

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Speaker 2: that we live in a country where neo Nazism is

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Speaker 2: not just a poisonous, irrelevant fringe, but is on the

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Speaker 2: verge of taking over the country and committing terrible crimes.

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Speaker 2: These people don't just need to read a book, They

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Speaker 2: need to get acquainted with the country they live in.

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Speaker 2: Nazism was never normal. It was born of the wrenching

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Speaker 2: destruction of World War One and represented a fundamental break

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Speaker 2: with the norms of Western civilization. It was irrational, it

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Speaker 2: was bloodthirsty, It was obsessed with conquest and racial purity.

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Speaker 2: Think about it. If Hitler had merely sought, say, to

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Speaker 2: eliminate funding for the Nazi equivalent of public broadcasting, he

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have been the most notorious figure in modern hit

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump seeks to fire heads of independent agencies. Hitler

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Speaker 2: wanted to murder mentally ill people. Donald Trump believes that

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Speaker 2: we need to force the border. Hitler believed he had

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Speaker 2: to conquer Europe and cleanse the East of untermention. Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump post outlandist things occasionally on truth Social Hitler made

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Speaker 2: a quote prophecy that if war came, it would bring

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Speaker 2: quote the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe end quote.

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Speaker 2: But the Left plays this game where they find the lowest,

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Speaker 2: most meaningless common denominator between something happening now and the

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Speaker 2: Nazis and act as if that proved something. The Nazis

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Speaker 2: had military parades. Trump wanted to have a military parade. Nazi.

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Speaker 2: Our military wears boots. The hr moft war boots. Nazis.

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Speaker 2: The Gestapo was an internal police force. Weis also does

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Speaker 2: policing internally Nazis. This is basically the logic that Rachel

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Speaker 2: Maddow used a couple weeks ago. Check it out.

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Speaker 6: Imagine the cartoon level caricature of what you think a

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Speaker 6: dictatorship looks like. I mean, it's secret police, right, a massive, anonymous, unbadged,

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Speaker 6: literally masked, totally unaccountable internal police force.

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Speaker 2: Needless to say, it matters hugely what a police force

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Speaker 2: is doing internally. ICE agents are simply doing their job,

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Speaker 2: which is a function of the legitimate power of the

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Speaker 2: federal government to regulate immigration and to make sure that

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Speaker 2: people aren't living or working here illegally. The Gestapo arrested

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Speaker 2: political enemies without due process. They harassed and committed acts

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Speaker 2: of violence against partisan enemies of the Nazi Party. They

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Speaker 2: secretly monitored religious groups, on and on with lawless and

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Speaker 2: hideous acts. ICE is enforcing American laws democratically adopted that

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Speaker 2: say illegal immigrants shall be detained until their immigration process

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Speaker 2: reaches its conclusion. If anything, illegal immigrants in this country

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Speaker 2: who get detained have too much due process. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, even with ICE's stepped up enforcement, mass defiance

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Speaker 2: of our immigration laws is still the norm. There are

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Speaker 2: millions and millions of people who are living here and

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Speaker 2: working here illegally. Another thing going on here is the

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Speaker 2: left hates the idea of exclusion. Now they're happy to

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Speaker 2: exclude people they disagree with. That's a point for another day.

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Speaker 2: But they think exclusion is inherently hateful and wrong. But

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Speaker 2: here again, it matters why are you excluding, right. It's

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Speaker 2: one thing if you're excluding Jews from your political community

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Speaker 2: and undertake lawless measures against them and persecute them based

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Speaker 2: on an ancient hatred, that's taken on an even more

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Speaker 2: perverse and evil modern form. That's Nazism. What ICE is

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Speaker 2: doing is excluding people from the legitimate borders of our

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Speaker 2: sovereign nation in keeping with laws that have been democratically adopted.

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Speaker 2: And they are not doing it on the basis of

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Speaker 2: ethnicity or national origin. They are doing it on the

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Speaker 2: basis of legal status. And by the way, they're not

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Speaker 2: persecuting these people. They are enforcing the law. And if

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Speaker 2: they don't have a claim to stay here, they're just

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Speaker 2: being sent home. And by the way, this country still

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Speaker 2: has a massive open door when it comes to legal immigration.

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Speaker 2: Something like a million new legal immigrants come to the

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Speaker 2: United States every year. But it's ICE's job to exclude

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Speaker 2: those immigrants who are violating our laws by coming here

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Speaker 2: and working here. Now, another bugaboo of the left is

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Speaker 2: that ICE agents are now wearing masks. This comes up

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Speaker 2: again and again.

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Speaker 4: The mask agents of the state, in unmarked vehicles are

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Speaker 4: terrorizing communities.

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Speaker 6: They don't have any identification. They're wearing masks.

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Speaker 2: Secret police who are masks, who are intimidating, who are

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Speaker 2: scaring people? Okay, but why are they wearing those masks

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Speaker 2: in the first place. Is because they're operating in a

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Speaker 2: threatening environment. People are resisting their operations. People are physically

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Speaker 2: assaulting agents. People are doxing agents to threaten them and

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Speaker 2: their families in their homes. The masks wouldn't be necessary

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Speaker 2: if everyone was peaceful and accepted the legitimacy of ICE. Instead,

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Speaker 2: the left has created this idea that ICE is the

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Speaker 2: equivalent of the Gestapo, which leads to a threatening environment.

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Speaker 2: They wear masks in response to that environment, and then

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Speaker 2: the mask themselves are taken as another sign, supposedly that

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Speaker 2: they are the modern day Gestapo. It is perverse, and

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Speaker 2: the ultimate question here is is who is really undermining

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Speaker 2: our system. Ice is a function of our demopocracy and

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Speaker 2: our laws, whereas violent acts serve to undermine our democracy

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Speaker 2: and our laws. So who is really using the fascist

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Speaker 2: like tactics here of intimidation and violence? And who is

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Speaker 2: defending our democracy? I'm Rich Lowry, over and out.

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