Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're listening.
Speaker 2: To Popping Off. So we are recapping episode five. It
Speaker 2: starts with Macy and Michaela telling their husbands that the
Speaker 2: weekend was filled with drama. Whitney's telling her the mom
Speaker 2: that the weekend sucked despite the social media pictures looking
Speaker 2: like they all had a blast.
Speaker 1: Isn't that social media or that one of those Instagram
Speaker 1: versus reality right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Then Jen is telling Zach that a lot of
Speaker 2: hurtful things were said. Taylor's questioning things about her friendship,
Speaker 2: wondering if she wants to be friends with these people anymore.
Speaker 2: She's telling this to Dakota and then she's like, maybe
Speaker 2: you're my only friend and I'm like, oh, hell no, oll.
Speaker 1: You need you need to rethink that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Demi calls it an absolute bloodbath. Whitney
Speaker 2: claims Demi started attacking her out of nowhere and cries
Speaker 2: to her mom about these girls. I think to myself,
Speaker 2: can mom talk survive this at least twice a day now?
Speaker 2: And I think it can't?
Speaker 1: Do you think that a lot? Are you just driving
Speaker 1: and You're like, I don't know, can mom talk survive this?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't drive, but when I'm being
Speaker 2: driven by now Bella who has their permit, which is
Speaker 2: so exciting, I'm like, she's like, I have to get
Speaker 2: one hundred hours. I'm like, ah, you have to drive.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think about it. I think about it
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why they constantly ask if mom talk
Speaker 1: can survive, Like what does that fundamentally mean? Because they
Speaker 1: clearly all make videos together, whether they hate each other
Speaker 1: or not. I think they're very focused on the fact
Speaker 1: that when they make videos together it does better, so
Speaker 1: they put those whatever personal differences they have. I feel
Speaker 1: like they don't care. They're just more about making social
Speaker 1: media content.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just want to get that bag. They're like,
Speaker 2: whatever way we can get the money. Who cares that
Speaker 2: we all hate each other? But also like, were you
Speaker 2: even friends in the first place? And of course mom
Speaker 2: talk can survive this. Mom talk was built because of this, right.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't understand the constant can mom talk
Speaker 1: survive bomp bomb bomb? It's like, yeah, can because you all,
Speaker 1: all you care and all you focus on is making
Speaker 1: content together and you don't care about anything else.
Speaker 2: About the repercussions right, anything else, of course it will well.
Speaker 2: Then Jesse to me and Layla are getting swig Aka
Speaker 2: they're Mormon crack, and there's a sign for fruity pebbles
Speaker 2: rice crispies, and they joke that Whitney must have been
Speaker 2: there to put the sign for them to me orders
Speaker 2: a thirty two ounce Texas Tab which is doctor Pepper,
Speaker 2: vanilla and coconut cream. Demi orders is very specific. She
Speaker 2: gets forty four ounce Fighter, which is forty four ounces
Speaker 2: of sparkling water with sugar free coconut, sugar free vanilla,
Speaker 2: sugar free raspberry, sugar free pineapple, and coconut cream. That
Speaker 2: sounds discussed, it does. And then Layla gets a forty
Speaker 2: four ounce Bloody Wild, which is a mountain dew with
Speaker 2: mango and strawberry pure. Plus she adds coconut cream.
Speaker 1: I feel like that everybody has the coconut cream.
Speaker 2: Listen. I feel like a glass of wine might be healthier.
Speaker 1: With coconut cream. You know, hold the coconut cream.
Speaker 2: But then Layla is having a divorce party and they're
Speaker 2: wondering if Whitney will show up.
Speaker 1: Do you think Whitney is as calculated as she looks
Speaker 1: about when she shows up, how she shows up, not
Speaker 1: showing up, showing up late, or do you think that's
Speaker 1: more of production kind of molding her into the villain.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we have to keep in mind that
Speaker 2: Whitney officially left the mom Talk group message and blocked
Speaker 2: dem on, TikTok and Instagram. So I think whenever you
Speaker 2: leave a group chat like that in kind of a
Speaker 2: dramatic fashion.
Speaker 1: How is it traumatic when you leave a group chat?
Speaker 2: Is it like because you it says like this person
Speaker 2: has left the group?
Speaker 1: How do you how do you make it? You can't
Speaker 1: make it dramatic. It just is what it is. It
Speaker 1: just says this person left.
Speaker 2: No, it's dramatic because you're all filming a television show together,
Speaker 2: all supposed to be talking about it. I mean I
Speaker 2: think that it makes it seem like she's going away
Speaker 2: and you guys should all panic because without her, I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't worry. Without her, they'll, you know, bring somebody else
Speaker 2: to the mud. It's fine, we get we'll get into
Speaker 2: other relationships.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to get those you know,
Speaker 1: nick you RSV videos anymore? With her gone?
Speaker 2: Are the farting and flipping over or once.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But then while they're talking about her leaving the group
Speaker 2: chat and they're all discussing how you know she just
Speaker 2: wants people to check on her and do this and that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then Demi says she's refusing to cater to Whitney's victim
Speaker 2: mentality and she obviously left the group chat to gain sympathy.
Speaker 2: But then Jesse's like, well, with Whitney gone and Taylor
Speaker 2: not really caring to me, are you going to be
Speaker 2: the queen Bee? Could you imagine talking like this?
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I know, I know the conversations right, that
Speaker 1: these are actual real conversations.
Speaker 2: Going on, Like this is worse than the drama and
Speaker 2: like slate sixth grade class right escus which kids are
Speaker 2: gonna wear what Halloween costumes and be in groups? And
Speaker 2: like I can't see.
Speaker 1: I know I'm going through that same conversation with Annabel
Speaker 1: because she said that everybody is going to be like
Speaker 1: a traffic cone and I'm like, well, you better make
Speaker 1: sure everybody's a traffic cone because if they all decide
Speaker 1: and don't tell you, you're going to show up as a
Speaker 1: traffic code and everybody else is going to be like
Speaker 1: a palorpuff girl or something, and you're a traffic cone,
Speaker 1: so make sure you know what's going on, like.
Speaker 2: Stay alert and then leaving certain kids out and all that.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Slate, you got to just go with
Speaker 2: the flow, Like fine if you want to be a
Speaker 2: Disney princess with all the girls, but it's not even
Speaker 2: a Disney princess. Like I'm like, it's gonna be arial.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, do I get a red wig? Should
Speaker 2: we do this? Should we do that? Do you need
Speaker 2: a mermaid to holl She's like, no, Mom, no wigs, sea
Speaker 2: shells for the hair, a green skirt and then a
Speaker 2: purple top from Addicted Addicted spelled e ed ik t.
Speaker 1: D oh Adicted Addicted addicts sead And they're all wearing
Speaker 1: the same shirt and different colors and different princesses.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's better than traffic cone.
Speaker 2: I mean, it is better until you have to go
Speaker 2: to the grove and wait in line and addicted to
Speaker 2: get a scratchy tank top for your daughter to wear
Speaker 2: for Halloween costumes.
Speaker 1: Can we just go back? Can I just say one thing?
Speaker 1: I just want to point out how annoying Whitney is
Speaker 1: that she left the group chat and then wanted everybody
Speaker 1: to tech started to ask her why she left the
Speaker 1: group chat. That's so Whitney.
Speaker 2: It's so whitney. Also, Whitney explaining the story to her
Speaker 2: mom is so whitney because everybody else is kind of
Speaker 2: on point with where the story is, but then she's
Speaker 2: explaining it. But Whitney and Connor are making homemade animal
Speaker 2: crackers with their kids. Honestly, I'd rather cut my face
Speaker 2: off than make homemade animal crackers.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was the thing. I didn't
Speaker 1: know you could make homemade animal crackers. Giving trad wife,
Speaker 1: giving trad wife. Yeah, no, who doesn't give tradwife? Me
Speaker 1: or you? I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I was planning on making some homemade animal crackers right
Speaker 1: after this.
Speaker 2: I was actually planning on planting my own grass growing up.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I made Shane for dinner
Speaker 1: last night. This is okay, this is tradwife right here.
Speaker 1: Hamburger helper.
Speaker 2: You know what I love? Hamburger helper. Was it the
Speaker 2: creamy one or the red one?
Speaker 1: It's like the creamy one. He loves it. It's his
Speaker 1: favorite thing.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 1: I have like eight thousand boxes of hamburger helper in
Speaker 1: my pantry because that's all he ever wants.
Speaker 2: Can you make me hamburger helper?
Speaker 1: I will make you hamburger helper.
Speaker 2: I would like that.
Speaker 1: I would like that, but only if we make like
Speaker 1: a social media reel or something.
Speaker 2: People how to make it. As if they were so difficult.
Speaker 1: Right, we could tell people how to be a trad
Speaker 1: wife and we could make hamburger helper.
Speaker 3: So first what we do is we drive to the
Speaker 3: grocery store and it can't be a Gelson's because they
Speaker 3: don't carry such chemicals. So then we go over to
Speaker 3: Ralph's and we pick up a hamburger helper creamy style. Yes,
Speaker 3: Then you put it into.
Speaker 2: A pan, add water, and then you add raw meat
Speaker 2: and you just mix it together.
Speaker 3: Then you feed it to said husband.
Speaker 4: Yes.
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Speaker 2: But Whitney's leveled. It's admirable, it's great. Macy thinks mom
Speaker 2: Talk needs Whitney and they should all try to make amends.
Speaker 2: But then Whitney openly states there wouldn't be a mom
Speaker 2: Talk without her Okay, let.
Speaker 1: Me ask who started the whole mom Talk idea of
Speaker 1: bringing all these women together? Was it Taylor or was
Speaker 1: it Whitney? Like where did the original idea?
Speaker 2: Taylor?
Speaker 1: Taylor? So why does she act like it wouldn't exist
Speaker 1: without her?
Speaker 2: Because I think she thought Taylor went off the rails. Well,
Speaker 2: and the two girls that aren't even on the show,
Speaker 2: the ones involved in the actual swinging legend, Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: the ones that originally started it. But it's either way,
Speaker 2: either do it or don't do it. It's like somebody's saying, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I don't want to be on the
Speaker 2: show anymore.
Speaker 1: Then leave right because they say they don't want to
Speaker 1: be on the show because they want everybody to say no,
Speaker 1: but we want you on the show. You should be
Speaker 1: on the show. Zip.
Speaker 2: It either be on the show and cause some drama
Speaker 2: like you naturally do.
Speaker 1: Or go relief, I mean.
Speaker 2: And then Taylor and Dakota show up to Jen and
Speaker 2: Zach's house. Jen feels responsible for the divide within mom
Speaker 2: Top because she didn't invite half the girls to the
Speaker 2: baby blessing. To make amends, Jen and Zach are going
Speaker 2: to give Dakota a crash course on how to be
Speaker 2: a parent. They're showing him how to make a bottle,
Speaker 2: change a diaper section, boogers out of a baby's nose.
Speaker 2: Dakota tries all these things on Luca, who's maybe the
Speaker 2: calmest baby ever. Right, Taylor would give him a bee
Speaker 2: on his performance. And then Taylor refuses to be pressured
Speaker 2: by anyone Dakota, her family, or her religion to get
Speaker 2: married when she's not ready. Smart move, shouldn't get ready.
Speaker 1: But here's my question, why didn't she use that same
Speaker 1: like logic and putting her foot down as far as
Speaker 1: getting pregnant.
Speaker 2: That was a really dramatic side that I just had.
Speaker 2: But it's yeah, I was thinking of it, like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, because I've never really understood the concept of
Speaker 2: like having a baby to save a relationship type mentality,
Speaker 2: solely because I think having kids is hard.
Speaker 1: But okay, so you think she got pregnant to try
Speaker 1: to save the relationship, but she draws a line as
Speaker 1: far as getting married like having a baby's fine.
Speaker 2: I think there is in toxic relationships like this one.
Speaker 2: I think there is a need to like want to
Speaker 2: have that constant bond of something and so that's why
Speaker 2: they were doing that, but ultimately she knew it wasn't
Speaker 2: going to work.
Speaker 1: But now, yeah, and I get that, And I think
Speaker 1: that's what bothers me about having the baby is she
Speaker 1: knows that he's not the best guy. She knows that
Speaker 1: they probably aren't going to end up together. She won't
Speaker 1: marry him, but she'll have a child with him. I
Speaker 1: guess that's where I'm like, it doesn't make sense to.
Speaker 2: Me, especially now that we know you can use birth
Speaker 2: control in LDS. Yes, when I didn't know, when I
Speaker 2: thought like maybe they were doing the pull up method
Speaker 2: it didn't work, that I could maybe get my hand,
Speaker 2: but like she had already had a like a topic pregnancy,
Speaker 2: and then she's still doubled down and.
Speaker 1: Got there again.
Speaker 2: I think he's I yes, we're only seeing the negative
Speaker 2: parts of their relationship, but most of the time in narcissistic, toxic,
Speaker 2: terrible relationships, there is an extreme high. And I think
Speaker 2: during that extreme high is when they think they should
Speaker 2: make a baby together. Then Layla brings Jen into me
Speaker 2: with her to a tattoo parlor. She has a tattoo
Speaker 2: that symbolizes her and her now ax, so she's decided
Speaker 2: to get it covered. She got married at nineteen and
Speaker 2: they had a shotgun wedding because they were pregnant. Jen
Speaker 2: finds it very courageous of Layla to walk away from
Speaker 2: a marriage, especially being LDS. Layla's going to get a
Speaker 2: tattoo for her sister even though they aren't close. Then
Speaker 2: Layla's not close with anyone her family, and she thinks
Speaker 2: that's why she rushed into marriage with Clay. Demi admits
Speaker 2: it's very common in the Mormon religion just stay in
Speaker 2: an unhappy marriage just to try to make things work.
Speaker 2: I kind of want to know why things didn't work.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've really gotten into this information less
Speaker 2: I miss something with Leila and her ex.
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think. I really feel like
Speaker 1: with Layla there's there's a lot more there and we're
Speaker 1: just not seeing it. I think she's not as open
Speaker 1: as the other women. I think she's maybe they're not
Speaker 1: showing her storyline yet. That's true too, I mean, obviously
Speaker 1: there's going to be more. I can't imagine that there
Speaker 1: isn't another season after this, so maybe they're going to
Speaker 1: delve deeper into the personal stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do. I don't help me think back,
Speaker 2: like if you are on Housewives, if your ex isn't
Speaker 2: in it, Like could Shane talk about his ex as
Speaker 2: much as he wants as long as he doesn't show
Speaker 2: a picture of her?
Speaker 1: You know, I do talk about his X and never
Speaker 1: show it. So because she's not on the show, she's
Speaker 1: not on the show. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean they show Katie like saying stuff about
Speaker 1: her ex, but she's also all.
Speaker 2: Over the press, you know what I'm saying, Like her
Speaker 2: stuff is all over the world.
Speaker 1: I mean, so you're saying it's out there publicly already.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying there seems to be drama surrounding it
Speaker 2: that is getting you know, it's contradictory. Like I mentioned
Speaker 2: that when I was on Beverly Hills, I mentioned that
Speaker 2: I was married before like the women had asked me,
Speaker 2: I talked. There was nothing I hit about it, There's
Speaker 2: nothing salacious about the story. It was like I got
Speaker 2: married young. Yeah, and then we realized we were good
Speaker 2: friends and that was kind of it. And I don't
Speaker 2: think they ever showed that either. And then people were like, hey.
Speaker 3: We saw that Teddy was on in style.
Speaker 2: Weddings with her first husband, and she hid that she
Speaker 2: was married. I'm like, right, no, I talked about it.
Speaker 2: Shame of my game, right.
Speaker 1: Well, And you know, sometimes I feel like they don't
Speaker 1: use it because it's just not pertinent to what's going on.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like they're leaving it out for
Speaker 1: some reason other than they have to cut things.
Speaker 2: And also, if we're not ever going to see them, right,
Speaker 2: and if.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna if that's not like a real storyline,
Speaker 1: you're not going to see that person. There's no drama there,
Speaker 1: then what's the point.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But if there's no drama there, then why'd they
Speaker 2: get the divorce?
Speaker 1: Why did you get divorced?
Speaker 2: I didn't have two kids?
Speaker 1: Yeah, see I got I was married before too, and
Speaker 1: I got divorced just because it just didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and that we had no nothing. We had no kids,
Speaker 1: no assets, no nothing. It was easy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and there's still no hard feelings. I'm not
Speaker 2: mad about it. Once, every like six years, I mean
Speaker 2: to text Matt our producer, and then I accidentally text
Speaker 2: my ex husband Matt, and I'm like, yeah, then I
Speaker 2: just deleted his number from my phone. So I was like,
Speaker 2: this can't happen. But I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't get it. But then they go to the race,
Speaker 2: all of the mom Talk girls besides Whitney, Taylor, and Gin.
Speaker 2: They get into jumpsuits and they spray paint all over
Speaker 2: each other. Meanwhile Whitney is at home once again baking.
Speaker 2: Bake your family. Why are all of Whitney's scenes baking?
Speaker 2: Do you think they're all filmed in one day and
Speaker 2: she's just changing outfits or this is no.
Speaker 1: I think that's what she I think she wants to
Speaker 1: come across that way, like she's this traditional wife that
Speaker 1: takes care of her family and is a good mom.
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure they're like, hey, we're going to come
Speaker 1: over and film, you know, so make sure you're doing
Speaker 1: something like you know, yeah, you can't just sit there.
Speaker 1: So I think she always wants to bake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, then she's but hurt because she wasn't invited
Speaker 2: the paint splatter place. She assumes Taylor wasn't invited only
Speaker 2: because she's pregnant, and then Whitney hints to Connor that
Speaker 2: she would like to be pregnant too. Whitney thinks it's
Speaker 2: so funny that after she left the group chap, no
Speaker 2: one called her directly. They called Macia funny. Funny's an
Speaker 2: interesting word to you.
Speaker 1: And it's so funny.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: But why is she questioning that she didn't get invited
Speaker 1: to the paint splatter thing when she left the group chat?
Speaker 2: Like she's a nap chat you've been, You've told everyone
Speaker 2: I no longer want to be a part of this group.
Speaker 1: Exactly, but then she expects an invitation. That's what kills
Speaker 1: me about her. She's so delusional.
Speaker 2: This is like what the young kids say, but like
Speaker 2: that she's a pick me.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Annabel says that all the time I had no idea
Speaker 1: what it meant.
Speaker 2: And then I started wondering, am I pick me? But
Speaker 2: then nobody would pick me?
Speaker 1: So you're here a wanna be pick me? Then?
Speaker 2: Whitney claims if she saw someone else leave the group chat,
Speaker 2: she would immediately call and ask them if they're okay.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not even showing up to events, right,
Speaker 2: You're so full of shit. She is so full of shit,
Speaker 2: But she's not saying that's why she did it though,
Speaker 2: mm hmm. She left the group chat because she needed space.
Speaker 2: If you needed space and you're leaving a group chat,
Speaker 2: I would send a message and say, hey, guys, I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at anybody, I'm just going through a lot,
Speaker 2: so I'm removing myself from the chat for a little bit.
Speaker 2: I love you all. I'll be back once life settles down.
Speaker 1: Or you could just not look at the group chat,
Speaker 1: Like are you on group chats that you just never
Speaker 1: look at I am. I'm on like some group chat
Speaker 1: that has to do with like Annabel something that has
Speaker 1: a bunch of moms or something on it. I never
Speaker 1: look at it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like on my WhatsApp, I'm on like eighteen
Speaker 2: school group chats where they're like who's going to do
Speaker 2: the bake sale? And I'm like me to open this
Speaker 2: or respond? But I did see it come in, but
Speaker 2: yeah no. But also, if you're in my top six,
Speaker 2: you know, do you have that on your phone? Like
Speaker 2: the top six at the Yeah, sometimes I don't see
Speaker 2: them come in if they're in the top six, I
Speaker 2: have a top nine nine. But then you have no
Speaker 2: room for text. That just makes me feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't make it, it's just like that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. But there's a top in nine, but you're
Speaker 1: not in there.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you're not online either.
Speaker 1: Because you barely respond to my text. My text do
Speaker 1: you you reply like forty eight hours later?
Speaker 2: But if you DM me, how quick do I respond immediately?
Speaker 1: Immediately?
Speaker 2: My text give me so much anxiety because there's so
Speaker 2: many of them that I honestly like, I looking at
Speaker 2: my text messages gives me Rachel.
Speaker 1: Now I know how to get a hold of you.
Speaker 1: I got to get on Instagram and DM you to
Speaker 1: get ahold.
Speaker 2: And then you got Then you got me right back.
Speaker 2: If you get a good meme, I'm your girl.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: Then they talk about macy launching a business called Baby Mama.
Speaker 2: It's a line of natal supplements for women who are
Speaker 2: going through their motherhood journey. Macy's invited Taylor to her
Speaker 2: photo shoot for Baby Mama, and Taylor brought Dakota.
Speaker 1: I know, I thought this was so odd and I
Speaker 1: really had to question did she bring him because she
Speaker 1: really wanted to bring him? Or did production? I always
Speaker 1: am questioning did production say, Hey, why don't you bring Dakota?
Speaker 2: But then the weirdest part of it all wasn't even
Speaker 2: that she just brought. You know, there are people that
Speaker 2: bring their significant others, which yes, I'm not one of
Speaker 2: those people.
Speaker 4: But then to ask for the ignancy photo with no shirt,
Speaker 4: I mean, granted, I have the most cringe.
Speaker 2: First, Like when I was pregnant with slate photo shoot
Speaker 2: with me and Edwin, he doesn't have a shirt on it.
Speaker 2: I'm wearing like a shirt that's like draped like this
Speaker 2: with my boat and he's like holding underneath, and it's honestly,
Speaker 2: I see it, and I get so embarrassed for myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, but let me ask you, did you take those
Speaker 1: photos at someone else's photo shoot business photo shoot? Right?
Speaker 2: I do it in my own home with my friend
Speaker 2: like and my husband.
Speaker 1: So now so slightly less cringey, not, I mean a little.
Speaker 2: Less, a little less I mean not great, I mean not.
Speaker 2: I mean I don't have any of them framed in
Speaker 2: my home.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna put one in here though, for
Speaker 1: for a social media.
Speaker 2: But that's to Emily's boolah shoot. Yes, apped with kids rabbits.
Speaker 2: Oh could you not find like an adult themed wrapping.
Speaker 1: Paper for the No? I couldn't I have. I clearly
Speaker 1: have children, young children.
Speaker 2: Here's my boot wash shoot.
Speaker 1: And then spongebobs like some.
Speaker 2: Yes yeah I've died, or like little cars.
Speaker 1: It was I think I think it was construction trucks.
Speaker 2: It was so good. But either way, Macy doesn't trust Adakota,
Speaker 2: considering there's been rumors that he's cheated on Taylor. Dakota
Speaker 2: decides this is the perfect opportunity to get some free
Speaker 2: professional photographs of him and Taylor. He takes off a
Speaker 2: sh shirt and this all goes on. But then we're
Speaker 2: done with this awkward exchange and it's time for Laylist
Speaker 2: divorce party. Yes, would you like to go into the theme?
Speaker 2: What is oh?
Speaker 1: It's funeral themed, which I actually found amusing.
Speaker 2: And isn't she the only one dressed in that theme? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what what is fud? All black
Speaker 1: funeral themes? So everyone shows up and all black to celebrate.
Speaker 1: Taylor isn't able to come because she isn't allowed in
Speaker 1: a bar following her arrest.
Speaker 2: I think that's perfectly love it, But why is.
Speaker 1: A funeral theme at a bar? I would have been okay,
Speaker 1: look if that was my theme, I'm all about themes
Speaker 1: for parties. If that was my theme, I would have
Speaker 1: that party at a funeral.
Speaker 2: Funeral home absolutely, or at a cemetery.
Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you're going to have a theme, go hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't just half asset and be the only one
Speaker 2: in like a black veil.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But Whitney and Connor show up and everyone is shock
Speaker 2: to see her. Connor looks like he may have thought
Speaker 2: this was a gangster party.
Speaker 1: Is this a new hairdoo for Connie Connor? This is
Speaker 1: different Connie.
Speaker 2: Now we're just constant Constance.
Speaker 1: Is this Constance's new hairdoo?
Speaker 2: Well? He tries to open a bottle of sparkling apple
Speaker 2: cider and he's extremely unsuccessful, which I was like, that's sexy.
Speaker 2: Then Layla makes her grand entrance wearing a lace dress
Speaker 2: and a black veil. Jordan, Jesse's husband, brings his friend
Speaker 2: over to Layla because he'd like to ask her out.
Speaker 2: Then Whitney pulls Jesse aside. She wants to talk to
Speaker 2: Jesse about the comment she made on the girls trip.
Speaker 2: Jesse's heard from everyone in the group that Whitney used
Speaker 2: them in one way or another.
Speaker 1: I mean, aren't they all using each other? Like, let's
Speaker 1: be honest.
Speaker 2: Using each other. And then Jesse points out that Whitney's
Speaker 2: having issues with everyone in the group. But Whitney immediately
Speaker 2: denies this and gets defensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's her go to, that's her go to. That's
Speaker 1: just like immediately defense mode, and it's never her fault,
Speaker 1: zero accountability.
Speaker 2: I need to talk to Whitney. I need to, like,
Speaker 2: I need to see if it feels different when you're
Speaker 2: actually communicating with her.
Speaker 1: You mean, like okay, like, for example, the way we
Speaker 1: felt about Janet when we were recapping the valley, but
Speaker 1: then I met her at her and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's lovely, Yeah, like a lovely person.
Speaker 2: You're like, actually, Janet's moving into my house, my Casio.
Speaker 1: That's fine, She's great.
Speaker 2: Then Whitney's drama with Demi started when Whitney told Jen
Speaker 2: and dem about her being too Mormon?
Speaker 1: Is that really an insult? I feel like that's like
Speaker 1: if someone's like, you're too pretty.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You are too rich?
Speaker 1: You are too rich, and oh my god, I'm so offended, And.
Speaker 2: Especially in a group of people that are doing cutamine bachelism,
Speaker 2: uh laughing gas, Like, is being too Mormon? The worst
Speaker 2: thing is that?
Speaker 1: Like is that derogatory? Someone says you're too Mormon. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't really get that.
Speaker 2: Maybe they meant like too Judgie. I don't know. But
Speaker 2: then Jesse adds another thing people say about Whitney. She's
Speaker 2: very quick to tell everyone what others have said behind
Speaker 2: their back. Whitney's pissed that no one reached out to her.
Speaker 2: We know, Whitney, and you shouldn't have left the chat.
Speaker 2: You should have had individual conversations where you talk to
Speaker 2: people about what you're upset about. Jesse tells her it
Speaker 2: was passive aggressive for her to leave the chat and
Speaker 2: ask if she wants if it was meant to be
Speaker 2: a test.
Speaker 1: Whitney look at her starting to cry when she learns
Speaker 1: that every single girl besides Macey has said something about
Speaker 1: her back. Is she really she's really that surprised?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but also Macy has two I think.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure she has. At some point. She does
Speaker 1: defend her a lot, which kind of surprises me about Macy.
Speaker 1: And this is one of those things that you know,
Speaker 1: we did that interview with Macy, but we did it
Speaker 1: before we watched the episodes. I wish that we could
Speaker 1: have Macy back, because now I.
Speaker 2: Know can questions can we have Macy back, but I
Speaker 2: feel like, have you did you see Inside Out?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The new one, no, even the first one, but you
Speaker 2: know how like everybody's in emotion. Yes, I feel like
Speaker 2: Whitney is human form of like a sigh, like she's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what would she get?
Speaker 2: Say?
Speaker 1: The crazy anxiety one was like the yeah, like.
Speaker 2: Er, yeah, definitely, what would you be?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there a mean and aggressive one?
Speaker 1: Just the red face like yeah?
Speaker 2: But then Taylor invited Macey over so she and Dakota
Speaker 2: can have a talk. Macy tells him that over time,
Speaker 2: she's witnessed behavior from him that is similar to her
Speaker 2: abusive ex boyfriend. Taylor starts to tell Dakota how she
Speaker 2: feels and begins sobbing. She's not ready for marriage and
Speaker 2: the lies he was telling her in the beginning of
Speaker 2: the relationships. He'll scare her. He hooked up with someone
Speaker 2: when he and Taylor were sleeping together but not dating yet.
Speaker 2: He made her feel like she wasn't good enough. Dakota
Speaker 2: feels like she's self sabotaging and isn't in the relationship.
Speaker 2: And then meanwhile, Macy's sitting there witnessing the two of
Speaker 2: them argue Macy's like, get me out of here. Taylor
Speaker 2: tells Macy that Dakota was effing someone the day before
Speaker 2: he met her, and then he efed her all week,
Speaker 2: and then he eft someone else the day after, and.
Speaker 1: This is the this is the man that she wants
Speaker 1: to have a child with. This is where I get confused.
Speaker 1: But also like, at.
Speaker 2: What point was Macy like, can I leave this group chat?
Speaker 1: Yes, there's too many as going on.
Speaker 2: I'm all out, I'm affed out, and I want to go.
Speaker 2: But that's how we end episode five. So you guys,
Speaker 2: make sure that you keep listening and tune in for
Speaker 2: our recap for episode six.