1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: I'm Teddy Mellencamp and this is Emily Simpson and you're listening. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: To Popping Off. So we are recapping episode five. It 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: starts with Macy and Michaela telling their husbands that the 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: weekend was filled with drama. Whitney's telling her the mom 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: that the weekend sucked despite the social media pictures looking 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: like they all had a blast. 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: Isn't that social media or that one of those Instagram 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: versus reality right? 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? Then Jen is telling Zach that a lot of 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: hurtful things were said. Taylor's questioning things about her friendship, 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: wondering if she wants to be friends with these people anymore. 12 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: She's telling this to Dakota and then she's like, maybe 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: you're my only friend and I'm like, oh, hell no, oll. 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: You need you need to rethink that one. 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Demi calls it an absolute bloodbath. Whitney 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: claims Demi started attacking her out of nowhere and cries 17 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: to her mom about these girls. I think to myself, 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: can mom talk survive this at least twice a day now? 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: And I think it can't? 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: Do you think that a lot? Are you just driving 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: and You're like, I don't know, can mom talk survive this? 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I don't drive, but when I'm being 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: driven by now Bella who has their permit, which is 24 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: so exciting, I'm like, she's like, I have to get 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: one hundred hours. I'm like, ah, you have to drive. 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think about it. I think about it 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: a lot. 28 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand why they constantly ask if mom talk 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: can survive, Like what does that fundamentally mean? Because they 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 1: clearly all make videos together, whether they hate each other 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: or not. I think they're very focused on the fact 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: that when they make videos together it does better, so 33 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: they put those whatever personal differences they have. I feel 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: like they don't care. They're just more about making social 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: media content. 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just want to get that bag. They're like, 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: whatever way we can get the money. Who cares that 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: we all hate each other? But also like, were you 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: even friends in the first place? And of course mom 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: talk can survive this. Mom talk was built because of this, right. 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: That's why I don't understand the constant can mom talk 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: survive bomp bomb bomb? It's like, yeah, can because you all, 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: all you care and all you focus on is making 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: content together and you don't care about anything else. 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: About the repercussions right, anything else, of course it will well. 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: Then Jesse to me and Layla are getting swig Aka 47 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: they're Mormon crack, and there's a sign for fruity pebbles 48 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: rice crispies, and they joke that Whitney must have been 49 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: there to put the sign for them to me orders 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: a thirty two ounce Texas Tab which is doctor Pepper, 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: vanilla and coconut cream. Demi orders is very specific. She 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: gets forty four ounce Fighter, which is forty four ounces 53 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 2: of sparkling water with sugar free coconut, sugar free vanilla, 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: sugar free raspberry, sugar free pineapple, and coconut cream. That 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: sounds discussed, it does. And then Layla gets a forty 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: four ounce Bloody Wild, which is a mountain dew with 57 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: mango and strawberry pure. Plus she adds coconut cream. 58 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: I feel like that everybody has the coconut cream. 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: Listen. I feel like a glass of wine might be healthier. 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: With coconut cream. You know, hold the coconut cream. 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: But then Layla is having a divorce party and they're 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: wondering if Whitney will show up. 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: Do you think Whitney is as calculated as she looks 64 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: about when she shows up, how she shows up, not 65 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: showing up, showing up late, or do you think that's 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: more of production kind of molding her into the villain. 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think we have to keep in mind that 68 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: Whitney officially left the mom Talk group message and blocked 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: dem on, TikTok and Instagram. So I think whenever you 70 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: leave a group chat like that in kind of a 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: dramatic fashion. 72 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: How is it traumatic when you leave a group chat? 73 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: Is it like because you it says like this person 74 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: has left the group? 75 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: How do you how do you make it? You can't 76 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: make it dramatic. It just is what it is. It 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: just says this person left. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: No, it's dramatic because you're all filming a television show together, 79 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: all supposed to be talking about it. I mean I 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: think that it makes it seem like she's going away 81 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: and you guys should all panic because without her, I'm like, 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: don't worry. Without her, they'll, you know, bring somebody else 83 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: to the mud. It's fine, we get we'll get into 84 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: other relationships. 85 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not going to get those you know, 86 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: nick you RSV videos anymore? With her gone? 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: Are the farting and flipping over or once. 88 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 89 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 2: But then while they're talking about her leaving the group 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: chat and they're all discussing how you know she just 91 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: wants people to check on her and do this and that. 92 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Uh. 93 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: Then Demi says she's refusing to cater to Whitney's victim 94 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: mentality and she obviously left the group chat to gain sympathy. 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: But then Jesse's like, well, with Whitney gone and Taylor 96 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: not really caring to me, are you going to be 97 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: the queen Bee? Could you imagine talking like this? 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I know, I know the conversations right, that 99 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: these are actual real conversations. 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: Going on, Like this is worse than the drama and 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: like slate sixth grade class right escus which kids are 102 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: gonna wear what Halloween costumes and be in groups? And 103 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: like I can't see. 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm going through that same conversation with Annabel 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: because she said that everybody is going to be like 106 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: a traffic cone and I'm like, well, you better make 107 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: sure everybody's a traffic cone because if they all decide 108 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: and don't tell you, you're going to show up as a 109 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: traffic code and everybody else is going to be like 110 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: a palorpuff girl or something, and you're a traffic cone, 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: so make sure you know what's going on, like. 112 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: Stay alert and then leaving certain kids out and all that. 113 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: And I'm like, Slate, you got to just go with 114 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 2: the flow, Like fine if you want to be a 115 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Disney princess with all the girls, but it's not even 116 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: a Disney princess. Like I'm like, it's gonna be arial. 117 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: So I'm like, do I get a red wig? Should 118 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: we do this? Should we do that? Do you need 119 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: a mermaid to holl She's like, no, Mom, no wigs, sea 120 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: shells for the hair, a green skirt and then a 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: purple top from Addicted Addicted spelled e ed ik t. 122 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: D oh Adicted Addicted addicts sead And they're all wearing 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: the same shirt and different colors and different princesses. 124 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 2: I'm like, I. 125 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it's better than traffic cone. 126 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it is better until you have to go 127 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: to the grove and wait in line and addicted to 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: get a scratchy tank top for your daughter to wear 129 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: for Halloween costumes. 130 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: Can we just go back? Can I just say one thing? 131 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: I just want to point out how annoying Whitney is 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: that she left the group chat and then wanted everybody 133 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: to tech started to ask her why she left the 134 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: group chat. That's so Whitney. 135 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: It's so whitney. Also, Whitney explaining the story to her 136 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: mom is so whitney because everybody else is kind of 137 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: on point with where the story is, but then she's 138 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: explaining it. But Whitney and Connor are making homemade animal 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: crackers with their kids. Honestly, I'd rather cut my face 140 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: off than make homemade animal crackers. 141 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was the thing. I didn't 142 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: know you could make homemade animal crackers. Giving trad wife, 143 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: giving trad wife. Yeah, no, who doesn't give tradwife? Me 144 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: or you? I have no idea what you're talking about. 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: I was planning on making some homemade animal crackers right 146 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: after this. 147 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: I was actually planning on planting my own grass growing up. 148 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's. 149 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: Right. 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I made Shane for dinner 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: last night. This is okay, this is tradwife right here. 152 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Hamburger helper. 153 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: You know what I love? Hamburger helper. Was it the 154 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: creamy one or the red one? 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: It's like the creamy one. He loves it. It's his 156 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: favorite thing. 157 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: Ever. 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I have like eight thousand boxes of hamburger helper in 159 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: my pantry because that's all he ever wants. 160 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Can you make me hamburger helper? 161 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: I will make you hamburger helper. 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: I would like that. 163 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I would like that, but only if we make like 164 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: a social media reel or something. 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,119 Speaker 2: People how to make it. As if they were so difficult. 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Right, we could tell people how to be a trad 167 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: wife and we could make hamburger helper. 168 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: So first what we do is we drive to the 169 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: grocery store and it can't be a Gelson's because they 170 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: don't carry such chemicals. So then we go over to 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: Ralph's and we pick up a hamburger helper creamy style. Yes, 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: Then you put it into. 173 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: A pan, add water, and then you add raw meat 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: and you just mix it together. 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: Then you feed it to said husband. 176 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 4: Yes. 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: Tap the link for more hot tips from trad wives. 178 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: But Whitney's leveled. It's admirable, it's great. Macy thinks mom 179 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: Talk needs Whitney and they should all try to make amends. 180 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: But then Whitney openly states there wouldn't be a mom 181 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: Talk without her Okay, let. 182 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: Me ask who started the whole mom Talk idea of 183 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: bringing all these women together? Was it Taylor or was 184 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: it Whitney? Like where did the original idea? 185 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 2: Taylor? 186 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Taylor? So why does she act like it wouldn't exist 187 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: without her? 188 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: Because I think she thought Taylor went off the rails. Well, 189 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: and the two girls that aren't even on the show, 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: the ones involved in the actual swinging legend, Yeah, they're 191 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: the ones that originally started it. But it's either way, 192 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: either do it or don't do it. It's like somebody's saying, like, 193 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I don't want to be on the 194 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: show anymore. 195 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: Then leave right because they say they don't want to 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: be on the show because they want everybody to say no, 197 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: but we want you on the show. You should be 198 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: on the show. Zip. 199 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: It either be on the show and cause some drama 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: like you naturally do. 201 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Or go relief, I mean. 202 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: And then Taylor and Dakota show up to Jen and 203 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 2: Zach's house. Jen feels responsible for the divide within mom 204 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 2: Top because she didn't invite half the girls to the 205 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: baby blessing. To make amends, Jen and Zach are going 206 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: to give Dakota a crash course on how to be 207 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: a parent. They're showing him how to make a bottle, 208 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: change a diaper section, boogers out of a baby's nose. 209 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: Dakota tries all these things on Luca, who's maybe the 210 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: calmest baby ever. Right, Taylor would give him a bee 211 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 2: on his performance. And then Taylor refuses to be pressured 212 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: by anyone Dakota, her family, or her religion to get 213 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: married when she's not ready. Smart move, shouldn't get ready. 214 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: But here's my question, why didn't she use that same 215 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: like logic and putting her foot down as far as 216 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: getting pregnant. 217 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: That was a really dramatic side that I just had. 218 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: But it's yeah, I was thinking of it, like, I 219 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: don't know, because I've never really understood the concept of 220 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: like having a baby to save a relationship type mentality, 221 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: solely because I think having kids is hard. 222 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: But okay, so you think she got pregnant to try 223 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: to save the relationship, but she draws a line as 224 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: far as getting married like having a baby's fine. 225 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: I think there is in toxic relationships like this one. 226 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: I think there is a need to like want to 227 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: have that constant bond of something and so that's why 228 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: they were doing that, but ultimately she knew it wasn't 229 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: going to work. 230 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: But now, yeah, and I get that, And I think 231 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: that's what bothers me about having the baby is she 232 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: knows that he's not the best guy. She knows that 233 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: they probably aren't going to end up together. She won't 234 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: marry him, but she'll have a child with him. I 235 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: guess that's where I'm like, it doesn't make sense to. 236 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Me, especially now that we know you can use birth 237 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: control in LDS. Yes, when I didn't know, when I 238 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: thought like maybe they were doing the pull up method 239 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: it didn't work, that I could maybe get my hand, 240 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: but like she had already had a like a topic pregnancy, 241 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: and then she's still doubled down and. 242 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: Got there again. 243 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: I think he's I yes, we're only seeing the negative 244 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: parts of their relationship, but most of the time in narcissistic, toxic, 245 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: terrible relationships, there is an extreme high. And I think 246 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: during that extreme high is when they think they should 247 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: make a baby together. Then Layla brings Jen into me 248 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: with her to a tattoo parlor. She has a tattoo 249 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: that symbolizes her and her now ax, so she's decided 250 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: to get it covered. She got married at nineteen and 251 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: they had a shotgun wedding because they were pregnant. Jen 252 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: finds it very courageous of Layla to walk away from 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: a marriage, especially being LDS. Layla's going to get a 254 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: tattoo for her sister even though they aren't close. Then 255 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: Layla's not close with anyone her family, and she thinks 256 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: that's why she rushed into marriage with Clay. Demi admits 257 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: it's very common in the Mormon religion just stay in 258 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: an unhappy marriage just to try to make things work. 259 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: I kind of want to know why things didn't work. 260 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't think we've really gotten into this information less 261 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: I miss something with Leila and her ex. 262 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't think. I really feel like 263 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: with Layla there's there's a lot more there and we're 264 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: just not seeing it. I think she's not as open 265 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: as the other women. I think she's maybe they're not 266 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: showing her storyline yet. That's true too, I mean, obviously 267 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: there's going to be more. I can't imagine that there 268 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: isn't another season after this, so maybe they're going to 269 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: delve deeper into the personal stories. 270 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do. I don't help me think back, 271 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: like if you are on Housewives, if your ex isn't 272 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: in it, Like could Shane talk about his ex as 273 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 2: much as he wants as long as he doesn't show 274 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 2: a picture of her? 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: You know, I do talk about his X and never 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: show it. So because she's not on the show, she's 277 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:09,119 Speaker 1: not on the show. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. Yeah, 278 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: but I mean they show Katie like saying stuff about 279 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: her ex, but she's also all. 280 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: Over the press, you know what I'm saying, Like her 281 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: stuff is all over the world. 282 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I mean, so you're saying it's out there publicly already. 283 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm saying there seems to be drama surrounding it 284 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 2: that is getting you know, it's contradictory. Like I mentioned 285 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 2: that when I was on Beverly Hills, I mentioned that 286 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: I was married before like the women had asked me, 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: I talked. There was nothing I hit about it, There's 288 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: nothing salacious about the story. It was like I got 289 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: married young. Yeah, and then we realized we were good 290 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: friends and that was kind of it. And I don't 291 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: think they ever showed that either. And then people were like, hey. 292 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: We saw that Teddy was on in style. 293 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Weddings with her first husband, and she hid that she 294 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 2: was married. I'm like, right, no, I talked about it. 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: Shame of my game, right. 296 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: Well, And you know, sometimes I feel like they don't 297 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: use it because it's just not pertinent to what's going on. 298 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like they're leaving it out for 299 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: some reason other than they have to cut things. 300 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: And also, if we're not ever going to see them, right, 301 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: and if. 302 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: You're not gonna if that's not like a real storyline, 303 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: you're not going to see that person. There's no drama there, 304 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: then what's the point. 305 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. But if there's no drama there, then why'd they 306 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: get the divorce? 307 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Why did you get divorced? 308 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: I didn't have two kids? 309 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, see I got I was married before too, and 310 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: I got divorced just because it just didn't work out, 311 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and that we had no nothing. We had no kids, 312 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: no assets, no nothing. It was easy. 313 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, and there's still no hard feelings. I'm not 314 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: mad about it. Once, every like six years, I mean 315 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: to text Matt our producer, and then I accidentally text 316 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: my ex husband Matt, and I'm like, yeah, then I 317 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: just deleted his number from my phone. So I was like, 318 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: this can't happen. But I mean, I don't know, I 319 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: don't get it. But then they go to the race, 320 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: all of the mom Talk girls besides Whitney, Taylor, and Gin. 321 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: They get into jumpsuits and they spray paint all over 322 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: each other. Meanwhile Whitney is at home once again baking. 323 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: Bake your family. Why are all of Whitney's scenes baking? 324 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: Do you think they're all filmed in one day and 325 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: she's just changing outfits or this is no. 326 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: I think that's what she I think she wants to 327 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: come across that way, like she's this traditional wife that 328 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: takes care of her family and is a good mom. 329 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure they're like, hey, we're going to come 330 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: over and film, you know, so make sure you're doing 331 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: something like you know, yeah, you can't just sit there. 332 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: So I think she always wants to bake. 333 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, then she's but hurt because she wasn't invited 334 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: the paint splatter place. She assumes Taylor wasn't invited only 335 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: because she's pregnant, and then Whitney hints to Connor that 336 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: she would like to be pregnant too. Whitney thinks it's 337 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: so funny that after she left the group chap, no 338 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: one called her directly. They called Macia funny. Funny's an 339 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: interesting word to you. 340 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: And it's so funny. 341 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: It's so funny. 342 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: But why is she questioning that she didn't get invited 343 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: to the paint splatter thing when she left the group chat? 344 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: Like she's a nap chat you've been, You've told everyone 345 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 2: I no longer want to be a part of this group. 346 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: Exactly, but then she expects an invitation. That's what kills 347 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: me about her. She's so delusional. 348 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: This is like what the young kids say, but like 349 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: that she's a pick me. 350 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: Yes. 351 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Annabel says that all the time I had no idea 352 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: what it meant. 353 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: And then I started wondering, am I pick me? But 354 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 2: then nobody would pick me? 355 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: So you're here a wanna be pick me? Then? 356 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: Whitney claims if she saw someone else leave the group chat, 357 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: she would immediately call and ask them if they're okay. 358 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, you're not even showing up to events, right, 359 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 2: You're so full of shit. She is so full of shit, 360 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: But she's not saying that's why she did it though, 361 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 2: mm hmm. She left the group chat because she needed space. 362 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: If you needed space and you're leaving a group chat, 363 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: I would send a message and say, hey, guys, I'm 364 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: not mad at anybody, I'm just going through a lot, 365 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: so I'm removing myself from the chat for a little bit. 366 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: I love you all. I'll be back once life settles down. 367 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: Or you could just not look at the group chat, 368 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: Like are you on group chats that you just never 369 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: look at I am. I'm on like some group chat 370 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: that has to do with like Annabel something that has 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of moms or something on it. I never 372 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: look at it. 373 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like on my WhatsApp, I'm on like eighteen 374 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: school group chats where they're like who's going to do 375 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: the bake sale? And I'm like me to open this 376 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: or respond? But I did see it come in, but 377 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: yeah no. But also, if you're in my top six, 378 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: you know, do you have that on your phone? Like 379 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 2: the top six at the Yeah, sometimes I don't see 380 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: them come in if they're in the top six, I 381 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: have a top nine nine. But then you have no 382 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: room for text. That just makes me feel uncomfortable. 383 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't make it, it's just like that. I 384 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: don't know. But there's a top in nine, but you're 385 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: not in there. 386 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: I was going to say, you're not online either. 387 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Because you barely respond to my text. My text do 388 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: you you reply like forty eight hours later? 389 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: But if you DM me, how quick do I respond immediately? 390 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: Immediately? 391 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: My text give me so much anxiety because there's so 392 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: many of them that I honestly like, I looking at 393 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: my text messages gives me Rachel. 394 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: Now I know how to get a hold of you. 395 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I got to get on Instagram and DM you to 396 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: get ahold. 397 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: And then you got Then you got me right back. 398 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: If you get a good meme, I'm your girl. 399 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: Yep. 400 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: Then they talk about macy launching a business called Baby Mama. 401 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: It's a line of natal supplements for women who are 402 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: going through their motherhood journey. Macy's invited Taylor to her 403 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: photo shoot for Baby Mama, and Taylor brought Dakota. 404 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: I know, I thought this was so odd and I 405 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: really had to question did she bring him because she 406 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: really wanted to bring him? Or did production? I always 407 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: am questioning did production say, Hey, why don't you bring Dakota? 408 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 2: But then the weirdest part of it all wasn't even 409 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 2: that she just brought. You know, there are people that 410 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: bring their significant others, which yes, I'm not one of 411 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: those people. 412 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: But then to ask for the ignancy photo with no shirt, 413 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: I mean, granted, I have the most cringe. 414 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 2: First, Like when I was pregnant with slate photo shoot 415 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: with me and Edwin, he doesn't have a shirt on it. 416 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: I'm wearing like a shirt that's like draped like this 417 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: with my boat and he's like holding underneath, and it's honestly, 418 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: I see it, and I get so embarrassed for myself. 419 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: Okay, but let me ask you, did you take those 420 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: photos at someone else's photo shoot business photo shoot? Right? 421 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: I do it in my own home with my friend 422 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 2: like and my husband. 423 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: So now so slightly less cringey, not, I mean a little. 424 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: Less, a little less I mean not great, I mean not. 425 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean I don't have any of them framed in 426 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: my home. 427 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: You know they're gonna put one in here though, for 428 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: for a social media. 429 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 2: But that's to Emily's boolah shoot. Yes, apped with kids rabbits. 430 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: Oh could you not find like an adult themed wrapping. 431 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: Paper for the No? I couldn't I have. I clearly 432 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: have children, young children. 433 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 2: Here's my boot wash shoot. 434 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: And then spongebobs like some. 435 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: Yes yeah I've died, or like little cars. 436 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: It was I think I think it was construction trucks. 437 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: It was so good. But either way, Macy doesn't trust Adakota, 438 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: considering there's been rumors that he's cheated on Taylor. Dakota 439 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: decides this is the perfect opportunity to get some free 440 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: professional photographs of him and Taylor. He takes off a 441 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 2: sh shirt and this all goes on. But then we're 442 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: done with this awkward exchange and it's time for Laylist 443 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: divorce party. Yes, would you like to go into the theme? 444 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: What is oh? 445 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: It's funeral themed, which I actually found amusing. 446 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: And isn't she the only one dressed in that theme? Well? 447 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know what what is fud? All black 448 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: funeral themes? So everyone shows up and all black to celebrate. 449 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: Taylor isn't able to come because she isn't allowed in 450 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: a bar following her arrest. 451 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: I think that's perfectly love it, But why is. 452 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: A funeral theme at a bar? I would have been okay, 453 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: look if that was my theme, I'm all about themes 454 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: for parties. If that was my theme, I would have 455 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: that party at a funeral. 456 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Funeral home absolutely, or at a cemetery. 457 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: Right, Like, if you're going to have a theme, go hard. 458 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't just half asset and be the only one 459 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: in like a black veil. 460 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: Right. 461 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: But Whitney and Connor show up and everyone is shock 462 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: to see her. Connor looks like he may have thought 463 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: this was a gangster party. 464 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: Is this a new hairdoo for Connie Connor? This is 465 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: different Connie. 466 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: Now we're just constant Constance. 467 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 1: Is this Constance's new hairdoo? 468 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: Well? He tries to open a bottle of sparkling apple 469 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: cider and he's extremely unsuccessful, which I was like, that's sexy. 470 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: Then Layla makes her grand entrance wearing a lace dress 471 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: and a black veil. Jordan, Jesse's husband, brings his friend 472 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: over to Layla because he'd like to ask her out. 473 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: Then Whitney pulls Jesse aside. She wants to talk to 474 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: Jesse about the comment she made on the girls trip. 475 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: Jesse's heard from everyone in the group that Whitney used 476 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: them in one way or another. 477 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I mean, aren't they all using each other? Like, let's 478 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: be honest. 479 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: Using each other. And then Jesse points out that Whitney's 480 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: having issues with everyone in the group. But Whitney immediately 481 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: denies this and gets defensive. 482 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's her go to, that's her go to. That's 483 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: just like immediately defense mode, and it's never her fault, 484 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: zero accountability. 485 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: I need to talk to Whitney. I need to, like, 486 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: I need to see if it feels different when you're 487 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: actually communicating with her. 488 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: You mean, like okay, like, for example, the way we 489 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: felt about Janet when we were recapping the valley, but 490 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: then I met her at her and I was like, oh, 491 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,479 Speaker 1: she's lovely, Yeah, like a lovely person. 492 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: You're like, actually, Janet's moving into my house, my Casio. 493 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: That's fine, She's great. 494 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Then Whitney's drama with Demi started when Whitney told Jen 495 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: and dem about her being too Mormon? 496 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Is that really an insult? I feel like that's like 497 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: if someone's like, you're too pretty. 498 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You are too rich? 499 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: You are too rich, and oh my god, I'm so offended, And. 500 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 2: Especially in a group of people that are doing cutamine bachelism, 501 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 2: uh laughing gas, Like, is being too Mormon? The worst 502 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: thing is that? 503 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: Like is that derogatory? Someone says you're too Mormon. I mean, 504 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't really get that. 505 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 2: Maybe they meant like too Judgie. I don't know. But 506 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: then Jesse adds another thing people say about Whitney. She's 507 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 2: very quick to tell everyone what others have said behind 508 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: their back. Whitney's pissed that no one reached out to her. 509 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: We know, Whitney, and you shouldn't have left the chat. 510 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: You should have had individual conversations where you talk to 511 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 2: people about what you're upset about. Jesse tells her it 512 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: was passive aggressive for her to leave the chat and 513 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: ask if she wants if it was meant to be 514 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: a test. 515 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Whitney look at her starting to cry when she learns 516 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: that every single girl besides Macey has said something about 517 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: her back. Is she really she's really that surprised? 518 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but also Macy has two I think. 519 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure she has. At some point. She does 520 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: defend her a lot, which kind of surprises me about Macy. 521 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: And this is one of those things that you know, 522 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: we did that interview with Macy, but we did it 523 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: before we watched the episodes. I wish that we could 524 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: have Macy back, because now I. 525 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: Know can questions can we have Macy back, but I 526 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 2: feel like, have you did you see Inside Out? 527 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 528 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 2: The new one, no, even the first one, but you 529 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: know how like everybody's in emotion. Yes, I feel like 530 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: Whitney is human form of like a sigh, like she's like. 531 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what would she get? 532 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 2: Say? 533 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: The crazy anxiety one was like the yeah, like. 534 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: Er, yeah, definitely, what would you be? 535 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is there a mean and aggressive one? 536 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: Just the red face like yeah? 537 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: But then Taylor invited Macey over so she and Dakota 538 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: can have a talk. Macy tells him that over time, 539 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: she's witnessed behavior from him that is similar to her 540 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,239 Speaker 2: abusive ex boyfriend. Taylor starts to tell Dakota how she 541 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: feels and begins sobbing. She's not ready for marriage and 542 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: the lies he was telling her in the beginning of 543 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: the relationships. He'll scare her. He hooked up with someone 544 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: when he and Taylor were sleeping together but not dating yet. 545 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: He made her feel like she wasn't good enough. Dakota 546 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: feels like she's self sabotaging and isn't in the relationship. 547 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: And then meanwhile, Macy's sitting there witnessing the two of 548 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: them argue Macy's like, get me out of here. Taylor 549 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: tells Macy that Dakota was effing someone the day before 550 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: he met her, and then he efed her all week, 551 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: and then he eft someone else the day after, and. 552 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: This is the this is the man that she wants 553 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: to have a child with. This is where I get confused. 554 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: But also like, at. 555 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: What point was Macy like, can I leave this group chat? 556 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: Yes, there's too many as going on. 557 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 2: I'm all out, I'm affed out, and I want to go. 558 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: But that's how we end episode five. So you guys, 559 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: make sure that you keep listening and tune in for 560 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 2: our recap for episode six.