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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm

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Speaker 1: not broke. You know, he'll be interview with celebrity CEOs

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes

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Speaker 1: to do, it's what he likes to share. Now it's

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Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: Here we come. No show another moment of telling people

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Speaker 1: what they need to hear, even if they want to listen.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people get advice on the day. Every day.

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Speaker 1: They get advice to get advice from teachers, they get

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Speaker 1: advice from employers, and get advice from their parents, to

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Speaker 1: get advice from mentors. But that but that necessarily mean

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Speaker 1: they want to listen. And that's what that's the separation line,

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Speaker 1: you know, because sometimes when you have to listen to

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Speaker 1: means that involves more work. If it involves more work,

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Speaker 1: that means that are you willing to do the things

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Speaker 1: sitting in the corner and wine and complain. You have

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Speaker 1: to watch those complainers, those complainers and those naysayers. They're different,

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Speaker 1: they are different people. My goals and hosted money making

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Speaker 1: conversations to give business owners, employers and employees and everyday

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Speaker 1: people in central information that will successfully uplift for your

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Speaker 1: daily lives. That sounds simple, but it's not because of

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Speaker 1: want to do the work to get there, because guess

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Speaker 1: we're doing. The work does not happen overnight. I wish

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Speaker 1: I benefit. But that's a that's a that's a journey.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't want to get to the

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Speaker 1: journey part. Uh. That's why I created Money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: My guests on the show the day I really want

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Speaker 1: to talk about he has something that is very similar

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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversations. So without further ado, let me

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Speaker 1: introduce him. So when you started talking to him, because

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Speaker 1: he is on the phone, my next guest as an

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Speaker 1: award winning music producer, songwriter, musician, arranger, composer and founder

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Speaker 1: Entertainment and see Blake Studios or his full house production companies.

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Speaker 1: He has also launched a stay at home money movement

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Speaker 1: and I'm approaching my end of the business. And guess what,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna create a lot of winners on the phone.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversation. I missed him at

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Speaker 1: the ESPN live broadcast. They told me he was there

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Speaker 1: Dana says to buddy, Hey man, I heard I missed you. Man,

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Speaker 1: last a couple of weeks. September twenty uh Stephen A.

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Speaker 1: Smith brought ESPN First Take to Williamington, Delaware to promote

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Speaker 1: they've generated over four million dollars in scholarships that have

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Speaker 1: Because right now I want to say you're on fire.

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Speaker 1: Let me read some things here, like I'm reading this article.

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Speaker 1: Gospel hit making producer songwriter Dana Surrey recently received three

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Speaker 1: Thirty seconds of that that song, Rashaan paid me forty

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Speaker 1: I like what you're doing, Dana, because you you know

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Speaker 1: me when I say this, which is true. I hate

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Speaker 1: I want you to realize that this is a home

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Speaker 1: for you, for your brand. Believe me. Uh, just just

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you've educated my listeners and people watch the show,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that you won't change, first of all,

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Speaker 1: Keep being an advocate for change, Keep being somebody that

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Speaker 1: thank you, sir, thank you. Hi. This is rou Sean

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Speaker 1: You're listening to money making conversations. Thank you, sir, thank

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Speaker 1: And I wish I could give you one word that

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Speaker 1: that is not possible. To him, the truth is about

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Speaker 1: reaching your goal. Success is not easy. If it were,

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Speaker 1: then everybody will be wealthy and partying in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: need to make personal sacrifices if you want to be successful.

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Speaker 1: I've learned that I make personal I think about the

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Speaker 1: eventually settled into Atlanta, Georgia. Now excuse me. Then I

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Speaker 1: lived in Chicago four years while I was living in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So those are the sacrifices that I've made physically that

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Speaker 1: So you know, again, there's are sacrifices that we all

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Speaker 1: have to do them too. If you don't tell them that,

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Speaker 1: then they think that life is easy. My next guest

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Speaker 1: she always was speakable. I've never seen her walk forwardly

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Speaker 1: these questions and many more. This week, she's being honored

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Speaker 1: with her on the red carpet in Los Angeles this week.

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Speaker 1: She has an award winning entertainment publicist with over twenty

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Speaker 1: has offices in New Jersey and Los Angeles. She represents artists, athletes,

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Speaker 1: including Charlie Wilson. We know Charlie Wilson, Come on now,

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Speaker 1: She's Sweet Petator, Patill, Peach, Cobblum, Pattbill Now and has

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Speaker 1: worked with world renowned talent including My boy Rusher, Holly Robinson,

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Speaker 1: incredible husband Rodney Tupac, who I considered the greatest rapper

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Speaker 1: of all time. The question me on that, but I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: But Prince, come on now, how many babies in the world?

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Speaker 1: This man and Brody please welcome to my the main conversation,

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Speaker 1: my girl Karen Lee. Thank you for having me, Chell

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. Thank you, good morning, well, good

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Speaker 1: morning here, and thank this boy talking about everybody, but

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Speaker 1: about the people you that you have represented and you

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Speaker 1: currently represent before we get started. Congratulations on being honored

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Speaker 1: at the Living Legends Foundation dinner. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that um and being honored with the others

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Speaker 1: Steve Hegwood. And I tell you Steve Hegwood taught me

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Speaker 1: are the people being honored with Karen On at the

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Speaker 1: for Radio one, Steve Heckwood showed me how to do radio.

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Speaker 1: And it was after that Phil Thorn, my man out

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Speaker 1: it's just my boy sitting the middle. I came boy

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Speaker 1: Sittlor Miller heard this interview and I didn't mention his name.

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Speaker 1: He beat me up. Oh yeah, Deanna Williams some some

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Speaker 1: that's the I'm gonna tell you something about the Living

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Speaker 1: what they were talking about. And but that's what this

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Speaker 1: being honored on Friday, and I feel very honored to

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Speaker 1: be a part of that group. Girl, you deserve to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the group. But let's ask you

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Speaker 1: some questions. I want my listeners to understand, Like, because

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Speaker 1: you hear by public What exactly is a publicist? Karen?

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Speaker 1: Please tell us what explain that you have to TWI

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Speaker 1: years experience? What exactly is a publicist? You come into

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Speaker 1: an artist and athlete a company, Um, if you start

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Speaker 1: out with artists, My background is primarily in music and sports.

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Speaker 1: You come in uh to meet with the artists, talk

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Speaker 1: to them, Okay, what are your goals? What do you

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Speaker 1: want to achieve professionally and personally, and you help them,

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Speaker 1: together with their team, put together a plan that helps

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Speaker 1: them meet their goal. And one of the primary things

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Speaker 1: about their plan is the patience to know it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen overnight. Well, that's very true. I know that

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Speaker 1: because a lot of Also, let's gonna put a lot

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Speaker 1: of people want to publicists but don't want to pay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true, very true. Let's go and get that out there.

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Speaker 1: They want that promotion, but they don't want to play

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Speaker 1: the price for a really good one because they think

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot of disrespect, I would say to

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Speaker 1: for publicists and the actually what they accomplished on an

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Speaker 1: ongoing basis correct or yes, because people think we'll shoot.

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Speaker 1: All they gotta do is pick up the phone and

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Speaker 1: make a couple of calls to somebody because everybody wants

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Speaker 1: don't always understand the business, especially now the business has

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Speaker 1: changed a lot. Social media can be your friend or

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Speaker 1: your enemy, and you make that decision. A publicist can

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Speaker 1: help work with your management team, your agents. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: going out on tour. What do we want to do

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Speaker 1: on that tour? Wouldn't want to leave in that community.

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Speaker 1: We don't want to just go in, do a show,

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Speaker 1: say hey, thank you, and walk away. You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: People nowadays want to know a bit more about the

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Speaker 1: people they spend their money to see, and you try

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Speaker 1: to help develop the talent in order to make their

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Speaker 1: you know, also you're paying for, especially an individual like

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Speaker 1: you who's been in the business twenty five years, you're

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Speaker 1: paying for your relationships. And relationships are very important because

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, when I was managing Steve Harvey,

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Speaker 1: my relationships that I had with the media were very important.

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Speaker 1: I can get in views, I could kill interviews, I

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Speaker 1: could do I can move interviews around. I can be

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Speaker 1: able to say, hey, can we can we delay this

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Speaker 1: could actually talk to them. So they're paying for that

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Speaker 1: as well, and that's very important. Correct, Oh no, it's

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Speaker 1: extremely important. Because you, you and a publicist and journalists

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Speaker 1: have to have some trust in each other. You can't

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Speaker 1: panic when there's something going on with your client that's

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Speaker 1: not necessarily the most positive thing in the world. The

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Speaker 1: relationship you have with the journalists is going to determine

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Speaker 1: how hardcore that interview is going to be. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting you said that because the game has

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Speaker 1: two thousand and now start there's a new breed of

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Speaker 1: stars out there that directors are stars now, Executive produces

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Speaker 1: are stars now, writers and stars now. It just used

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Speaker 1: to be just the people in front of the camera

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Speaker 1: where the stars. Publicists are stars now, managers are stars now. Really,

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Speaker 1: so really, the it's really is a re education to

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Speaker 1: the whole process now because social media have made these

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Speaker 1: people stars. So your client lists has kind of like

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Speaker 1: grown as an opportunity to increase your client lists has grown. Yes,

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Speaker 1: as long as we take the time to understand who

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Speaker 1: where they want to go and we help them create

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Speaker 1: the road to get there. Because the other thing about

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Speaker 1: a publicist. You're not right about everything. You're part of

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Speaker 1: a team. You want your artists to understand. And one

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Speaker 1: of the key things that every artist wants to know

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Speaker 1: is that they can trust you because there's going to

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Speaker 1: come a time, at some point in time in their

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Speaker 1: career where something happens, whether it's positive or negative, that's

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Speaker 1: about their personal life that they do not want to share.

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Speaker 1: They have to be able to trust that you won't

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Speaker 1: do that. And that's a hard thing to do because

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Speaker 1: you're talking about somebody they really haven't known that long

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Speaker 1: and haven't been in a situation where they have to say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let me call her because I know

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Speaker 1: she's gonna get this. I know she'll trust and I

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Speaker 1: know I'm not gonna hear about it again. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's a very important trait to have with your client.

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Speaker 1: Is their trust. That's the utmost importance. I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: that that's beyond utmost. It's the only thing that's important.

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Speaker 1: Because if I trust you with my brain, I trust

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Speaker 1: you with my name, then guess what we can get along.

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Speaker 1: If I can't trust you that, I guess what we

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Speaker 1: have no relationship. I'm talking to Karen Lyn the Incredible.

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Speaker 1: Currently she's being recognized by the Living Legends Foundations with

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Speaker 1: on that record. So far to seeing you, Okay, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming. So looking forward to seeing your Roshan.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna change little role here. I would be

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Speaker 1: all of those things. More importantly, this is I told

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Speaker 1: him before the show this I was. I was reluctant

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Speaker 1: to have him sitting next to me because I love

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Speaker 1: Please welcome to the show, ron Rico late oh man studio. Man, Man,

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Speaker 1: glory and oh my goodness. Man, guy's good man. I've

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Speaker 1: that's why I've been letting people know who coming, specially

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Speaker 1: long before it. Uh you know, I was reluctant. I

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Speaker 1: let's stay together, man, you gotta get it. But I

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: You know, it's tough. I got married, I got two kids,

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Speaker 1: And then what happened was, you know, the BT show

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Speaker 1: and coming home and um. And so now I traveled

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Speaker 1: it's been many of days where I've gone to work

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Speaker 1: back to the family. It's tough, but it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: I was I was looking at Jobio and so it

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Speaker 1: was talking about directing. Yes, okay, and that's I read

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Speaker 1: that now. Just my eyes went, okay, I gotta talk

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Speaker 1: to him about this. Talk to me about um. I

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Speaker 1: don't you know if has kept I've been one of

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Speaker 1: the direct now that you mentioned it, man, one of

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Speaker 1: the second film I did was Glory Uh with Denzel

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Speaker 1: can honestly say I was interested in directing back then.

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Speaker 1: I remember coming back and comes to my friends and man,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna make a little movie. And I had to

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Speaker 1: basically I was like, this is what we're gonna do,

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Speaker 1: do a dolly shot and we're just gonna roll down

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Speaker 1: the sidewalk. It's like eleven or two years old, so

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Speaker 1: it's been in my blood. One of the direct man

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Speaker 1: every show minus Sisters, said Stir. He didn't really start

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Speaker 1: to like bets Let's stay together. I started biting at

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Speaker 1: the bit man, trying to get them to let me direct.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Begging on Survivors and Wars. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna let you do. You know, fifth season, fifth season.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a fifth season, so I can't get

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Speaker 1: a chance to direct there. But I was fortunate to

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Speaker 1: direct the short film Um. Actually one of my coach

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Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, you got put stuff out

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Speaker 1: And I had said no to a few other things,

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Speaker 1: but I said to myself, I said, God, if I'm

919
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Speaker 1: giving the opportunity to direct, I don't care what it is,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying yes, sight unseen. And I did. When they

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Speaker 1: the script. I was just like, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: And it was a heavy piece. It was a dramatic piece,

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Speaker 1: but it confirmed everything in me, like directing is that's

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Speaker 1: what I want to do. Now let's go back to

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Speaker 1: you and I let um, you know, um young talent.

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Speaker 1: and and it was just it was like really big opportunity,

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Speaker 1: but there was no guarantees and you just was to me,

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Speaker 1: at right now. Well, if I was a fish out

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Speaker 1: of water, man, I think I had blown a audition

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Speaker 1: probably a month before. For motion, I had froze up

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Speaker 1: you know, probably had you can have anywhere from ten

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Speaker 1: to fifteen people, writers, directors and lots of friend Johnson

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Speaker 1: was right in there, so it was it was overwhelming,

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Speaker 1: and I did I kind of folded under pressure. So

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Speaker 1: my sister sister came around. I remember saying, listen, if

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Speaker 1: I get this opportunity again, I'm knocking out the park

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Speaker 1: and uh it Rashan. He made it sound real simple,

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Speaker 1: like I came in audition, I got cast. N they

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Speaker 1: you know, I got cast, and uh I think even

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Speaker 1: You know, I had started off doing movies in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So all those things like they just they didn't compare

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Speaker 1: And and I did. I hung around a lot. They

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Speaker 1: but and um, and he was great. He was you know,

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot from him. I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: from him. But it took me a minute to find

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Speaker 1: like what's my funny gonna be? And and you helped

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Speaker 1: me with that, because when you're around really that's that's listen,

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Speaker 1: like talented people, um like Martin for example, if you

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Speaker 1: if you will, uh, it becomes infectious and other people

971
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Speaker 1: will start to kind of inhabit his his way of

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I always say to Rashaan

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Speaker 1: in the in the nicest way, he let me know

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Speaker 1: that the role that I was going down to kind

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Speaker 1: I was really just kind of emulating Dion a lot

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Speaker 1: of times to to kind of to kind of hit

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Speaker 1: day we was at craft service. He sat me down

981
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Speaker 1: I don't in my fire, am I what what's going on?

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Speaker 1: And he in the most loving like big brother, I'm

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Speaker 1: tell you one of the best piece of advices anyone

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Speaker 1: you can't play, so you just define your position and

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Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of it. What basically, I was

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