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Speaker 1: Fellow Ridiculous Historians, we are returning to you with a classic,

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Speaker 1: a series of classics, actually, so stay tuned. This is

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Speaker 1: one that we immensely enjoyed and Noel, if you recall,

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Speaker 1: we broked in some friends for this, we did.

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Speaker 2: It's another example of what we intended to be an

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Speaker 2: ongoing series in the early days of the show, and

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Speaker 2: we only did twice. We had the best of intentions,

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Speaker 2: and now that I'm remembering what a good time we

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Speaker 2: had with friends of the show, Frank mulhern and Rowan Newby,

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Speaker 2: I think we gotta do this again. Idiomatic for the

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Speaker 2: People This idea of each guest. We could do a

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Speaker 2: the origins of it. We love etymology and history of words,

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Speaker 2: and its bonkers to me that we have not revisited this.

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Speaker 2: It's also a really clever name and a reference to

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Speaker 2: hometown heroes are em.

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Speaker 1: We must let's roll the tape. This is from twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen Idiomatic for the People two, Part one. Ridiculous History

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Speaker 1: is a production of iHeartRadio. So recently, my co host

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Speaker 1: Nol and I had an idea that we thought was

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Speaker 1: just crazy enough to work we had started talking about

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Speaker 1: all the strange things that happen in the English language.

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Speaker 1: There's so many sayings that don't quite translate, or if

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Speaker 1: you heard them in another language, you would say, what

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Speaker 1: the heck are these people talking about. We thought this

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Speaker 1: was so fascinating that we wanted to do an episode

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Nothing goes out without his express approval. Yes, yes, very true.

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Speaker 1: He is. He is a king maker here. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you and I, oh, and I'm Ben by the way.

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Speaker 1: You and I wanted to do an episode about idioms,

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Speaker 1: and we didn't want to go into this for a alone,

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Speaker 1: so we were joined with our good friend and host

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Speaker 3: Hey, oh here he is.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there he is.

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Speaker 4: He's been here the whole time. He was sitting in

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Speaker 4: when we were talking about the Statue of Liberty. Uh,

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Speaker 4: and now we're finally giving him voice.

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Speaker 1: We did. We turned on this.

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Speaker 3: It's true. But hey, here's the thing. You might remember.

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Speaker 4: When we first did this episode, we gave it a

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Speaker 4: fantastic name. Idiomatic for the people that I mentioned was

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Speaker 4: coined by a ephemeral friend of the show who you've

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Speaker 4: heard mentioned plenty of times, multiple times, multiple times, My

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Speaker 4: dear friend and cohort, Frank the Tank Mulheran.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, Frank joined us today.

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Speaker 4: Human he is in the flesh, he has a voice,

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Speaker 4: he has a soul, and he has some ideas about

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Speaker 4: some weird idioms. So it's all it's all coming together,

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Speaker 4: you guys, We're all here.

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Speaker 1: We finally did it. We pulled it off, and I

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Speaker 1: have a feeling that this will be a two parter. No,

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Speaker 1: to be completely clear with everybody listening this time, we

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Speaker 1: but I think it's safe to say in most cases

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Speaker 1: we don't know the stories behind these phrases or these words.

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Speaker 1: So we're experiencing this with you as you listen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, with four you know, dashingly good looking

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Speaker 4: But no, we only researched our own, So there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be surprises of plenty in today's episode.

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Speaker 3: You should pay for any.

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Speaker 1: Well, they paid attention. That's true.

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Speaker 4: You always say that time is the most valuable currency

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Speaker 1: So what do you say, gents who would like to

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Speaker 5: come and trip it as you go on the light

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Speaker 5: It really is. And the thing that kind of tripped

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Speaker 1: This is not the last we've heard of tripping the light.

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Speaker 5: No, no, it's not. In fact, so trip the light

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Speaker 5: fantastic in this song Sidewalks of New York was in

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Speaker 5: not the Gilded Age anymore. We got to move on.

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Speaker 1: People are avoiding ballroom dancers because they don't want to

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Speaker 5: My boss told me trip the Light fantastic, Dick. It

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Speaker 3: Flamenco being you would be accompanied by a classical guitar

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Now another change happened with this expression with Tennessee Williams

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Speaker 5: Tom spoke to his father quote he gave up his

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Speaker 5: By this time, like the sense of tripped that we

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Speaker 5: Yes it want to lay Yeah, yeah, totally. And skipped

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Speaker 4: Okay, so here's the thing for me, the original trip

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Speaker 4: more of a trippy thing. Not to mention like you

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Speaker 4: had Queen talking about Scarmoose, Scar Moush, will you do

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Speaker 4: the fandango and all the thunder lightning. It's very very

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Speaker 4: frightening to me apparently. And then you've got this band

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Speaker 4: pro call Haram exactly. Yes, it's in nineteen sixty seven

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Speaker 4: and they have the song I kind of like the

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Speaker 4: any Lenox version better if I'm being honest, But it's

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Speaker 6: Uh, this is what I was waiting for. Yeah, lyrics

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Speaker 6: by Keith read Lyrics by Keith Read Say, and it

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Speaker 6: uses the more modernized version. I guess, well, relatively speaking,

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Speaker 6: we trip the light fandango, Oh no, skip light.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's almost like unrecognizable from its form of trip

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Speaker 5: the light fantastic, rip.

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Speaker 4: The light fantastic, to skip the light fandango. My thing

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Speaker 4: here to all of this, the question I have is

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Speaker 4: what light?

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Speaker 3: What is this light?

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Speaker 4: Because originally, when we were talking about this affair, when

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking about the lights and I'm thinking about treading

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Speaker 4: So Washington Irving introduced it an early example in his

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Speaker 4: So then we've got dope kind of making the transition

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Speaker 4: Your dope, dope head. You know you're smoking dope, Right,

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Speaker 1: Whoa nice laid honest.

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Speaker 6: Love it, You really would love That's fascinating, That so fascinating.

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Speaker 4: That's Dope's very good, Ben, And it all started with Ben.

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Speaker 4: Less, it is at least much more, much more universally

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00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 4: considered innocuous.

438
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: Exactly.

439
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think dope is still kind of like,

440
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 5: you know, an opiate sort of word. It can be

441
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 5: a catch all, certainly specifically when you're talking about dope sickness.

442
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 1: That's right, and this Coca Cola drugs. This leads us

443
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: to an important point and a question I think that

444
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: we were asking each other off the air when the

445
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 1: four of us were hanging out. Uh, how do we

446
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: get in front of this? What's the right now? Dope?

447
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 3: Is encountering telling a moment?

448
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's having a moment, it's having a renaissance, right,

449
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: the same the cool did, wicked, sick, rad, gnarly, tubular, radical,

450
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: and the question that keeps haunting me. I mean, I

451
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: don't think we figured this out when we were talking

452
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: about this earlier. What's the next one? What's the next

453
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: word that's going to inherit this mantle? You know what

454
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, what's the what's the next dope?

455
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: I don't know.

456
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: It's a one word?

457
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 4: Probably it probably is. Is it possible that that our

458
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: friend Rowan Nuby has it?

459
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: Sure?

460
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 6: I'm honored that you would think that I have a

461
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 6: cornucopia of silly words just floating around on the bank

462
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 6: of my Why they brought me in here? Actually, okay,

463
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 6: let's just uh, let's just thrust some out there. What

464
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 6: about slut slunt slunt? Yeah, it's kind of kind of gross.

465
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 6: It's maybe it's like maybe it's like your mean, Maybe

466
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 6: someone is mean that's a.

467
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: Harsh mouthfield maybe like flong about like.

468
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 6: Right, now, dude, last night I got really uh poddled.

469
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: That's like that means too much? Yes, serious. I went

470
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: through a phase where, for some reason, and I never

471
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: apologized Casey to you or nol on air, so I

472
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: should do it now. I went through it. I get

473
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: stuck in certain phrases and I over use them very easily.

474
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: And I went through a period where I was just

475
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: instead of saying yes to something or great or I've

476
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: seen this email I was replying to I was replying

477
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: to you guys with just zanzibar because I like and

478
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: no one ever called me on you guys, never said, dude,

479
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Just let it roll?

480
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: Really, you know, I mean, Ben's going to be Ben.

481
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: If you're bold enough and you just yeah, gownly if

482
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 6: you own it.

483
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: No one's gonna say anything that's the truth with any

484
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 4: of these words. And we've coined a few on the

485
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: show ourselves, like a straight Seahorse T shirt.

486
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, has been making the rounds with some of the

487
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: folks on the Ridiculous History page.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah we actually we should, we should paying Some of

489
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Speaker 1: our fellow listener is rode In and it told us

490
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: that they were propagating this phrase, which we thought was fantastic.

491
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I gotta admit, man, I don't know about you know

492
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: that I had no idea straight seahorse teeth would take off.

493
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: You must have had a little inkling.

494
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 5: Then the first day you hear that in the wild

495
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 5: is going to be amazing.

496
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: Wow. Do you think we will? You will? I hope so,

497
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I hope it's in a really weird situation.

498
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: What other situations do we find ourselves in in the wild?

499
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: Then it's true we don't have regular days now, you

500
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: really don't.

501
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: But we do have another idiom to throw out at you,

502
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: don't we. I think it's yours, my friend Rowan, That.

503
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 6: Is correct, I do have one, since that is the

504
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 6: game we're playing here. How funny would it be if

505
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 6: I just was like, oh wait, I was supposed to

506
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 6: do homework. No, I just was sitting here drinking coconut water.

507
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: What do I have here? Cucumber was a.

508
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 3: Cucumber montane sparkling water, made right here in the heart

509
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 3: of Atlanta, Georgia.

510
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 6: Is it true that if we say the company name

511
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 6: of the product too more times they'll send us a

512
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 6: case of it?

513
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: We already have cases. Yeah, we're office one okay, oh

514
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: you take with you.

515
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Take them with you. You guys are take away from

516
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: the fun of getting free things. But okay, do you

517
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: want us to like make it a scavenger hunt or

518
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: like make it more fun? Sure? Okay, Well we'll give

519
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: you a series of clues at the end of the episode.

520
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: Do I see them a little off to that? Seem

521
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: all right? I'm a little I drank a lot last night.

522
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: Well you know, I'm not a hangover doctor or whatever.

523
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: But you seem fine. What do you think, guys? Does

524
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: he seem alright?

525
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 5: You look great?

526
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like you're absolutely glowing.

527
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good that that shower helped.

528
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 6: Uh Well, the reason I ask is because, uh, you know,

529
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 6: we've all knocked back a few in our local watering

530
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 6: hole and woke up feeling rather ripe, which is called

531
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 6: the local, which is called we might as well say, yeah,

532
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 6: it's it's it really is on the nose. Yeah, you

533
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 6: can be pretty gnarly if you drink too much, which

534
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 6: brings up my first idiom here the time honored colloquialism

535
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 6: hair of the dog, which is a yes, which is

536
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 6: a short for, of course, hair of the dog that

537
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: bit you.

538
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: So because this one. I I have no idea what

539
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: the etymology is, but I've heard it used again in

540
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: the wild, sure, And it's usually when someone starts drinking

541
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: kind of early in the day, you know, not distressingly early,

542
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: not like airport, but yeah, like brunch early.

543
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, sure, and I mean it's it's You can also

544
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 6: infer from the way where it's used in normal conversation

545
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 6: that it's to quell the aching headache from the night before.

546
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 6: You wake up with a headache because you're hungover, and

547
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 6: so you're like, oh, hair the dog, the bitch you.

548
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep drinking.

549
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 6: That'll solve everything if I just keep drinking. Right in

550
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 6: question Mark, I hear the dog Lloyd, Yeah, exact, of course.

551
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 6: I always think of the shining too. Yeah, and it's

552
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 6: referring to the it's a it's a cure like finger

553
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 6: quotes cure.

554
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: There's no scientific proof that it works whatsoever, but the.

555
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 6: Story goes, yeah, if you indulge too much, the next day,

556
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: you ingest more of the same alcohol and it quells this.

557
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: Pain in your head.

558
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 6: But at the origin of the expression dates back to

559
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 6: medieval times actually, when it was thought that after being

560
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 6: bit by a rabid dog. One could relieve the pain

561
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 6: by simply rubbing some hairs from the same dog into

562
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Speaker 6: your wound.

563
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Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, that's disgusting. That seems very unsane.

564
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not a doctor. I don't recommend them.

565
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: I mean it is something that we've talked about in

566
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: other episodes of the show. This sort of like I

567
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: don't know, you hear about it in medieval practitioners of remedies.

568
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not even gonna call them doctor. That

569
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: wasn't quite even a thing yet, but it's seemed like

570
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: leeching or blood letting, only this is like almost like

571
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 3: the idea of fighting fire with fire, right.

572
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, sympathetic magic. This theory was first developed by a

573
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: guy named Sir James Frasier in his masterpiece The Golden Boat.

574
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: And in this the argument is that like can cure

575
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: like this correlation between things, whether they're related through their

576
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: physicality or whether they're related through their space and time

577
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: in the event.

578
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Right, like a voodoo doll or something.

579
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, or like how you could become a werewolf

580
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: by drinking water from a wolf print in the woods,

581
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: which is also, by the way, not true. If you

582
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: were about to give it a go. I don't think

583
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: it'll work, but right in if it does once you

584
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: transform back. But you're absolutely right. Well, it's kind of

585
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: the idea that the poison can help create the antidote.

586
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you guys always enlightened me on my own idioms

587
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: that I bring to the table.

588
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I love the What did you call what kind of magic?

589
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: Was that? Sympathetic eathetic magic?

590
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sort of like a sympathetic vibration, right, So

591
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 4: it's if something vibrates at the right frequency, it makes

592
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 4: it something else vibrate at that same frequency. So sympathetic

593
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 4: magic would be like if you are interacting with something

594
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 4: related to the malady that you're suffering from or maybe

595
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 4: even dare we say the cause, that it will somehow

596
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 4: cure it.

597
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 3: But what you're getting at Rong, which.

598
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: I totally agree with, is that this is completely magical thinking.

599
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: It's this idea that I to be less drunk or

600
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 4: to feel less bad, I should just drink more and

601
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: sure it'll make you.

602
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Feel a little better because you're drunk again.

603
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 6: It's also it's alsobies right and also, how do you

604
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 6: get the subsequent hairs from the same dog that bit you.

605
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: I feel like reas that's right.

606
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: It requires some sort of mystical quest because that here, okay,

607
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: here we go. I propose something, this idea of seeking

608
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: out some sort of creature that has wronged you and

609
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: then you have to kill it to get the hair.

610
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: That's sort of the idea is you gotta you gotta

611
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 4: slay the beast and then you get the hair, rub

612
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: it on your wounds. But let's apply this to you

613
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 4: know how the idiom came around to bar times.

614
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 6: I guess, like, who doesn't like a good mimosa or

615
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 6: bloody Mary in the morning. Let's be honest, you know,

616
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: I was just a little nip and morning guy.

617
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: I just recently started liking blady. But I was shocked

618
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: out at the airport at like six am this morning.

619
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Speaker 4: I'm looking in the.

620
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: People are pouring vodka and the airport bar at six

621
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: that had to be some hair the alcohol thing.

622
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Well, they're also they're also possibly, in their defense, they're

623
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: coming from a very different time zone. Could be we

624
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: do have the world's busiest airport. Oh okay, well never mind,

625
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, no, no, you never know. But well

626
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: I've decided to assume that's fair.

627
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 4: I was a little shocked, and you know, even weirder,

628
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: I was like, maybe I should I should have a

629
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: little nippet six in the morning.

630
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: That seems fun.

631
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 6: You know, if I see someone drinking that much at

632
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 6: an airport, I go they fly all of the time.

633
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 6: They are getting on airplanes like four times a week

634
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 6: or something.

635
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 3: Because the thing about airports is that's sort of like

636
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 3: a liminal space where it's like a space between spaces,

637
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: and so the normal rules of decorum and life skills

638
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: do not apply when you're at the air absolutely true.

639
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 5: Like garbage.

640
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: What happens in the airport?

641
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: Pants, sweatpants and pocket shots, crocs, trip that light, fantastic.

642
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: We have some airport war stories that would be great

643
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: for a future episode. What do you think that's diving

644
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: into our personal lives a little? I'm fine with you, okay,

645
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: but I have a question for you. Real sure, Okay.

646
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: This is illuminating to me and I cannot help. But

647
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: wonder what kind of terrible night someone had where they

648
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: went on this quest. As Noel said, they were bitten

649
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: by a rabid dog. They hunted it down, they took

650
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: its hair, and then in the morning they started drinking

651
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: booze and someone's like, whoa, hey, dude, are you okay? Like,

652
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: how bad does your now? Bad does not have to

653
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: be right exactly.

654
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 6: I mean alcohol will always act, as you know, a

655
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Speaker 6: numbing agent. I feel like, I mean, for God's sake.

656
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Speaker 6: Then they used to put whiskey and milk and give

657
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Speaker 6: it to their kids. You know, I still do that,

658
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Speaker 6: just random children.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I actually found a really good physiological description of

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Speaker 4: it on a website called vinepaar dot com, which is

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Speaker 4: a great name for a website.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a great name. I actually have the

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Speaker 1: same source. What did you find I found?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was talking about these physiological aspects of like

667
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 6: how you know the alcohol affects you like bloody Mary

668
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 6: works because the alcohol inside the drink begins acting on

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Speaker 6: the chemical receptors inside the brain to increase the feelings

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Speaker 6: of pleasure. It's actually why so many people like booze

671
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Speaker 6: in the first place, and also probably why you drank

672
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Speaker 6: so much the night before, and the chemical reaction begins

673
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Speaker 6: to overpower the hangover symptoms, thus allowing us to feel

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Speaker 6: at least momentarily from the bad decisions of the previous night.

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Speaker 1: So and what is life but a series of momentary reliefs? Yeah,

676
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Speaker 1: and quick fixes.

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Speaker 5: You know, have any of y'all ever had Hair of

678
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Speaker 5: the Dog actually cure your hangover, because that's always been

679
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Speaker 5: like a delay strategy for me. Like when I've worked

680
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Speaker 5: in a restaurant, I was like, let me just get

681
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Speaker 5: through the lunch rush, right like in d stem spinach

682
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Speaker 5: for the next three hours and then go home.

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Speaker 1: I've Yeah, I'm not a practitioner of Hair of the Dog,

684
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Speaker 1: even when I live in a crazy airport life. It

685
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Speaker 1: just seems strange to introduce that kind of variable after,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially if you've had a night where you

687
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Speaker 1: were drinking and you wake up the next day like

688
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: maybe you can, maybe you can power through, as you said, Frank,

689
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Speaker 1: delay until about three pm or something. At some point

690
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Speaker 1: your body has.

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Speaker 6: Some metabolize this alcohol, like unless you just steadily drink

692
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Speaker 6: from that point to the rest of your.

693
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Speaker 1: Life, which is really increasingly shorter. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: No, it really does seem like prolonging the inevitable. I

695
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Speaker 4: am incapable of day drinking successfully too. I know that

696
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Speaker 4: Frank that you have, You're not That's not our thing.

697
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: It's just like because I get sleepy, I get cranky.

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Speaker 1: It's not fun. It just is going to kill my day.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what kind of night I've had the

700
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Speaker 4: night before. I'm just going to power through. And we

701
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: have some very helpful tips for this. All of a sudden,

702
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: this has become alcoholism.

703
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Speaker 3: One on one, just drink a lot of water.

704
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Speaker 1: Drink a lot.

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Speaker 3: That has always cured my headache. If I just drink

706
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Speaker 3: a lot of water. I don't want to drink booze.

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: I wanted to water hydrated kids. And you know, a

708
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of a leave, a

709
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 3: little bit of ibuprofen and something, eat something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you drink. Be married, No, don't be married.

711
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: Feel sad, be ashamed of yourself because if you're a

712
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 3: garbage person and you don't deserve.

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 5: To be happy, you should never drink again.

714
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: And you should you should make wildly melodramatic proclamations all

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Speaker 1: that to everyone.

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Speaker 5: You know on social media.

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Speaker 1: People you don't. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I found this phrase from this old English writer

719
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Speaker 6: named John Heywood on phrases dot Org that supposedly the

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Speaker 6: first origin of Hair of the Dog fifteen forty six.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to read it. I am going to

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Speaker 1: read it. Will you do a voice? I one, We'll

724
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Speaker 1: do all right. I'm in.

725
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Speaker 6: I pray they let me and my fellow have a

726
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 6: hair of the dog that bit us last night and

727
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Speaker 6: bitten were we both on the brain?

728
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Speaker 1: It literally says that we saw each other drunk and

729
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: the good ale glass.

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Speaker 3: Bit on the brain. So what you're saying is I

731
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Speaker 3: think we were talking off Mike, how both to the brain?

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Speaker 3: Both to the brain. That's great.

733
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Speaker 4: So you were telling me a little bit off, Mike

734
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Speaker 4: that this article talks about how some of these phrases

735
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Speaker 4: don't really come into popular use until like the literal

736
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: version of it sort of falls out. So this is

737
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Speaker 4: sort of what you're seeing. There is this gentleman using

738
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Speaker 4: that to describe the actual experience of being hungover, and

739
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 4: exactly he's kind of using it as a metaphor when

740
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Speaker 4: it was sort of a folkloric tradition in the first place,

741
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: right exactly.

742
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Speaker 6: It's interesting, yeah, super fascinating, and.

743
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Speaker 3: We still use it to this day.

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Speaker 1: Something. So we've got dope, hair of the dog and

745
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: tripping the light. Fantastic. I'm glad that we set this

746
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: up as a two part in the beginning this This

747
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: is one of those shows that I wish wouldn't end,

748
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: but we will have to end today's episode eventually. I

749
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Speaker 1: have I have one contribution. I feel like the uh,

750
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Speaker 1: the evil character and a fairy tale going. I have

751
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: a presence from a child. There's one more gift. This

752
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Speaker 1: phrase is something that we've heard before, and I primed

753
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Speaker 1: you guys just a little bit off air for this.

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Speaker 1: The word is god Zukes, and so that's why I

755
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: was like sliding that in hot topic mall gad Zukes

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Speaker 1: Spencer's uh. For a lot of us in our age

757
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: group in this part of the world, when we hear

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Speaker 1: the phrase godzooks, we associate it with the store that

759
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: used to be quite popular in the era of malls,

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Speaker 1: and it was called Goadzukes.

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Speaker 3: Are we in a post mall America?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's getting I guess that's because the mall used

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Speaker 6: to be like a central like fixture of like hanging

764
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Speaker 6: out hangout center.

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Speaker 3: It was the center of town.

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Speaker 4: God Zukes was also like where you would buy those

767
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Speaker 4: giant pants that were called Jinko's. Younger listeners and maybe

768
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Speaker 4: don't remember this absurd time or.

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Speaker 6: That orb with the lightning. Ooh, the glass that would

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Speaker 6: touch or the pill you put your hand and it

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Speaker 6: showed its your hand in the metal.

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Speaker 1: Which those things have to be filthy by now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the ones on display and like the science store face.

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Speaker 1: So it turns out that god zeukes actually has a

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Speaker 1: storied history, you know, things like goad zukes or zounds,

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Speaker 1: which is also related on the yep uh. They sound

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Speaker 1: like something you would hear on the old Adam West.

778
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Speaker 1: Yeah scooby doo, the old Adam West batman, but they

779
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Speaker 1: have religious origins. Dictionary references date gad zookes as far

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Speaker 1: back as the late sixteen hundreds as a shortening of

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Speaker 1: another exclamation, which was by God's hooks. Whoa God's hooks

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Speaker 1: be a reference to the nails on the cross of

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 4: You know what first popped into my head when you

785
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Speaker 4: said God's hooks? I pictured God as being like pinhead

786
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Speaker 4: from hell razors shutting out hooks into the flesh of

787
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Speaker 4: a damn.

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Speaker 1: I I was thinking that too, like a god with

789
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Speaker 1: you know that has an unseeable form except for the

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00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: hooks where the hands should be. You know this this

791
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Speaker 1: super pirate yeh, super pirate this weird because I mentioned

792
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: zounds earlier. Zounds also appears to date back to around

793
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Speaker 1: the fifteen hundreds as a euphemism for the phrase by

794
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Speaker 1: God's wounds.

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Speaker 4: So it should be pronounced zoons should probably should be

796
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Speaker 4: z O U N D S right.

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Speaker 1: And I guess it depends on yourselves, right, So this

798
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: phrase god zooks is not alone in its evolution, even

799
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Speaker 1: phrases there's somewhat innocuous, like Jeeper's creepy. It was originally

800
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: euphemism to get around saying Jesus Christ, but still still

801
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Speaker 1: have the same thing. I think the guy who meets yeah,

802
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Speaker 1: I think the guy who made the film Jeepers Creepers

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00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: doesn't know that. But also apparently that guy's a creep

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Speaker 1: I've heard. Yeah, I'm a big fan of JEsum crow.

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00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: That's that's good. I'm a big fan of cheese and crackers.

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00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Good people say that, right, Oh for sure? Yeah?

807
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: Children, I said that earlier, Yes, yeah, right.

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00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: Or just the strangers on the train. So it's an exclamation.

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00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: We don't hear it too often now. I think Prince

810
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: Philip said it in These are modern days, but it

811
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: would be unusual for us to be hanging out and

812
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: maybe have a surprise party for Casey and for him

813
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: to see the cake and whatever, you know, Mariachi band

814
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: or whatever we had to spice it up. It would

815
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Speaker 1: be really strange for him to go Dad Zooks, wouldn't

816
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: it well.

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00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, these hip young millennials these days,

818
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: they bring back this stuff all the time, saying ironically,

819
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, I say, Zoike's a lot.

820
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. I started saying oish and I

821
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: have no idea why. It's just stutched in my head.

822
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: I think I just made it up so like, I

823
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I was just so surprised that's what came out.

824
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: And it's like, I'll keep that one. But the use

825
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: of gad for God occurs in other phrases too, gad

826
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: gad and these are called phraseological combinations. There are other

827
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: ones that didn't make the cut. God zekes is did

828
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Speaker 1: that Coca Cola reference earlier? Goad Zukes is one of

829
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Speaker 1: the most successful of these turns of phrase. I would like, yeah,

830
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Speaker 1: I'd like to end this part of the show by

831
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Speaker 1: telling introducing you guys to some God Zukes esque things

832
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: that didn't make it. They're all ridiculous. Are you prepared?

833
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 3: All right?

834
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: Gad's Bob's also an exclamation, Gad's bob, Uh, God's lid.

835
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Speaker 1: There's God's bud likings.

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Speaker 3: Can we bring that back?

837
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Speaker 1: God's buddly goods? And then God's nouns nouns in u

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Speaker 1: n s. That's just lazy. I mean, I think the

839
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Speaker 1: clear audience favorite here is God's bud likings.

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Speaker 3: It's bud bud lickings.

841
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Speaker 1: Bud.

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00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: That would be a good name for a Dukes of

843
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: Hazard character.

844
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Speaker 1: Budd. Oh gosh, So this is strange. Gods, Gods buds likings.

845
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Speaker 1: We found out about tripping the light fantastic the hair

846
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: of the dog that bid us and it was overall

847
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: pretty dopey.

848
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Speaker 3: Thanks man, sounds just a little bit.

849
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Speaker 1: I deserved it.

850
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Speaker 3: I opened them wide and affection and admiration from my

851
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: dear co host Bimbol.

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00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: Thank you, Noel Brown. And likewise, one thing that we

853
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: found there was a great interest to us on our

854
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: first episode of Idiomatic for the People was that, in

855
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: the course of the show, we had totally without planning

856
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: it used several, like multiple different turns of phrase or

857
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: figures of speech idioms that we did not even notice

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00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: until we went back and listened to it. So I

859
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: wonder if we did that today as well, No doubt

860
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: about it, no doubt about it.

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00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 5: That's there's a really cool video by Kishi Bashi who

862
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: crams like one hundred and twenty or so idioms into

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Speaker 5: a single music video. That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got four.

865
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Speaker 3: We're doing our best. We're living our best life.

866
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: I know, Kishi Bashi, bud we're working our way.

867
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Speaker 1: I'll do it. But who is not even him sometimes?

868
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: But he is from Mathews, Georgia, which is also where

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Speaker 3: Arim is from, which is one of Frank's favorite which

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00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 3: is where Idiomatic for the people came from. So thanks R. E. M.

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00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: And thanks Frank Mulharan for helping dub this segment.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you, and thanks.

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Speaker 3: For coming on the show. Dude, Thanks for having me. Rob,

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Speaker 3: Thanks to you as well. My pleasure.

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Speaker 4: You you you, you dashing man with your He's got

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Speaker 4: a shirt on that you guys wouldn't believe.

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Speaker 3: It's got boots on it.

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Speaker 1: It's very colorful. I wanted to take a picture, but

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to look weird. Oh no, it's fine.

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Speaker 1: Everyone takes pictures of everything these days.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, that that which man is wearing Google

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Speaker 6: glasses right now. We keep telling them they're out of fashion,

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Speaker 6: They're no longer even function.

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Speaker 4: He keeps saying, Okay, Google, take a picture of shirts Google.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys busted me. They are apparently

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Speaker 1: not as inconspicuous as I thought. But yes, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show. If you would

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Speaker 1: like to hear more from our good friend Frank the Taint,

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Speaker 1: more hair and fear not, because you're essentially a shadow

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Speaker 1: member of our podcast, like we run ideas past Frank yep,

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Speaker 1: and Frank will sometimes give us ideas and we just

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Speaker 1: try not to disappoint.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a little worried that having his actual

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Speaker 4: voice on the show is going to open up some

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Speaker 4: sort of rift and time space.

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Speaker 3: But I'm willing to take chance, godless hope not.

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Speaker 1: If you want to. If you want to hear more

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Speaker 1: from our good friend Rowan Newby, check out his podcast Pitches.

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Speaker 1: What is pitches?

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Speaker 6: Pitches is a podcast a boad ideas. It is a

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Speaker 6: comedy podcast, and boy, oh boy, I would love it

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Speaker 6: if any of these fellow listeners would like to ride

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Speaker 6: in any ideas I mean really, it can be an

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Speaker 6: app a turn of phrase. How about that, It could

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Speaker 6: be a you know, an invention or who knows, and

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Speaker 6: Nolan goes on, you were on a great episode.

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Speaker 1: Of that's correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's coming out soon.

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Speaker 4: It's out today, out today, so well, this would be

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Speaker 4: a little removed from that in time, so it already

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Speaker 4: exists in the world.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I pitched a really silly idea for a suntann lotion

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Speaker 3: that gets you drunk.

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Speaker 6: Ah, the old hair of the tan that tanned you.

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Speaker 1: Right. Oh, that was very good.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: I think we've got a future episode coming up where

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Speaker 4: Ben is going to.

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Speaker 1: Correctly, that's in the that's in the cards tune.

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Speaker 6: If you want to find us on the instagrams, you

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Speaker 6: know what to do at Pitches Podcast Baby shameless plug.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're far past the point of shame for plugs.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of plugs, you can find us and your fellow

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Speaker 1: listeners on our Facebook page Ridiculous Historians. We're also all

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Speaker 1: over Twitter and Instagram. We've even started sharing our own

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Speaker 1: personal adventures. Is that right?

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Speaker 3: No, that's right. I am at Embryonic Insider.

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Speaker 1: And I am at Ben Bolan We hope that you

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Speaker 1: enjoy this episode. We hope you tune in for the

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Speaker 1: next one as idiomatic. For the people soldiers on Frank,

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Speaker 1: I cannot emphasize it enough. We're huge fans of that name.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. We're thanking you profusely because we're I think

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Speaker 1: legally we're we're we don't have to pay you.

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Speaker 3: It's fine what we do. We're also profuse thankers just

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Speaker 3: in general, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Ben, and thank you super producer Kasey Pegrim.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Alex Williams, a composer our theme. Thank you Gabe,

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Speaker 4: our research associate who had absolutely nothing to.

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Speaker 3: Do with this episode today, but we still thank him

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Speaker 3: just the same. He's a great realmnch. And thanks to

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Speaker 3: you Benbowan for being such a dashing and debonair co hosts.

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Speaker 3: And that jacket and those Google glasses are really popping today.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I've committed to the bit.

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Speaker 3: That's what you gotta do. We'll see you next timebox.

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Speaker 4: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 4: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.