1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks on a 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: week four recap show. Here, DJ, Bucky, rhtt with you 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and uh buck the teams we work for rough rough showings. 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Uh for the Chargers and the Jags. We will get 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: to those games in a little bit. But rhtt, I'm 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: not even gonna I'm just why hear it? What Indiana? 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: He's wearing Indiana here? 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: Like? What are we doing? 10 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Like? 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 2: What are we doing? I don't understand the rock? What 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: rock are we talking about? What rock are we talking about? 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: We're talking about the the limestone rock that houses a 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: five and oh football team, the number twenty third ranked. 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Idian Osiers. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. 17 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: I will say they are five and oh for the 18 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: first time since my dad was on campus. 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 4: It still feels good. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 5: I should have you know what I should have googled. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: I should have googled it. I should have googled like 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 5: the rock. I would have known. But I know, I 23 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 5: know Kurt Signetty like this is a big fan of 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 5: sending people to Google. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: I should have done it. 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: I should go that's all right, we'll get I can't 27 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: wait to see where he's coaching next year. Man, that's 28 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: a good guys. 29 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh he's going He's going to Carolina. You didn't know. 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: Now we're already off the rails. Let's let's just out 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: of the games. 32 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: All right. 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: But the NFL games to get to. 34 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to. The four teams are undefeated. 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Enternt this this weekend's play here that I'm very familiar 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: with yesterday. There you go. I'll please Buck save us. 37 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: You can start us off. We'll go Buffalo Baltimore. The 38 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: Dereck Henry show, Buck ninety nine two touchdowns. This is 39 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens team not long ago is zero and two, 40 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: and now they are right back where they want to 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: be and playing well on all three phases. 42 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny, DJ. 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: Sometimes you got to take two steps backwards before you 44 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 5: go two steps forward. And when I look at the 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: Baltimore Ravens, they had to get popped in the mouth 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: until they decided, like, you know what, guys, I think 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 5: we need to figure out. 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: What our identity is. 49 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: I think our identity is we're gonna run the football 50 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 5: with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson. We're gonna play great defense, 51 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: and we're gonna win a bunch of games. And it's 52 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: funny that they wasted a couple of games before they 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: got to that, but they're here now, and the team 54 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: that played on Sunday night, if they continue. 55 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: To play that way, they're going to be a problem 56 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: for people. 57 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: Because the combination of the two time rushing champ busting 58 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: out for eighty yards on the first first time he 59 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 5: touches it and then Lamar Jackson picking and choosing when 60 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 5: he wants to run the ball. I don't know how 61 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 5: you defense this unit. And the fact that Muckett has 62 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 5: added some motions, some misdirection, some deception to enhance the 63 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 5: running game. 64 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: Good luck Baltimore Ravens are back being what Baltimore Ravens are. 65 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, I think, there's two things 66 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: that I caught up with, outside of obviously the headline being, 67 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: you know, the King rules and rains in Baltimore. Once again, 68 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: that's Derrick Henry. But they made some changes along the 69 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: offensive line. Patrick McCary, who had played a lot of 70 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: right tackle the first three moved over to left guard 71 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: and played every snap at left guard. 72 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: And then they got Roger Rosengarden. 73 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Out there at right tackle, and he had some rough 74 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 3: moments early in this season, but played really well in 75 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: this game. And so I think that gave him their 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: best five guys out there, you know, for this game 77 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: in particular. And not only did Derrick Henry make this 78 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: offense better, but Derek Henry made Justice Hill even more potent, 79 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: right because you're getting pounded with Derrick Henry, you know, 80 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 3: for twenty four carries, and then you got Justice Hill 81 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: in here, like he looks even faster and more explosive. 82 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: I think now that Henry is out there, right, I mean, 83 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: like the change up there, and we. 84 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: Talk about that a lot, but it feels real like 85 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: he caught. 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: He was their leading receiver six passes, seventy eight yards, 87 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: and I think just the way that you have to 88 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: prepare to deal with Derrick Henry allows Justice Hill to 89 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: find some explosiveness, you know, through the pass game and 90 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: some of those quick throws, screen passes. Man, it's just 91 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: it's hard to deal with DJ and you got all 92 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: that going at once. 93 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 94 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: And another thing, look, I watched Rosengarden was one of 95 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: the notes that I had made. You've watched their explosive runs. 96 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: He shows up and the explosive runs. A nice job 97 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: there out on the right side the one. The other 98 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: note I wrote down was with Patrick Ricard, and I 99 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: see it with the Charges, we'll get to them later. 100 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: But with Scott Mattlock. Remember a few years ago when 101 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: Deebo first hit and it was like, okay, we talked 102 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: about finding Debo with a little play on words there. 103 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, teams are going to try and find a 104 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: guy to uses this kind of wing back and to 105 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: be able to get the ball, flip it to him 106 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: do different things. What Patrick Riccard does is so unique 107 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: as a three hundred pound full back slash h back, 108 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: and you look at again a lot of those big 109 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: runs he's delivering key blocks. He can, he's got really 110 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: really good feet, he fits up well, and it's just 111 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: it's like add to an extra fifty sixty pounds to 112 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: the position. You know, in a league where not many 113 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: people really even have full backs or use full backs, 114 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: they've got the unique one that's three hundred pounds. And 115 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: I see the Chargers are starting to get more and 116 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: more use of Scott matt Lock the same way Buck. 117 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 1: I wonder from a scouting trend, if you're going to 118 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of these defensive linemen at these pro days. 119 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: You know, some of these guys who are maybe mid 120 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: round picks, late round picks, getting cross trained a little 121 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: bit to see if they can't fill that role. 122 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 5: I mean, why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you take advantage 123 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: of the big guys, And we think about defensive line 124 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: and the athleticism that day ten to possess over there. 125 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: Offensive line, brethren, you have an opportunity to get a 126 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 5: sledgehammer that can lead. 127 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: Block, that can do a few different things. 128 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 5: So you're right, this is part of a trend that 129 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 5: I expect to continue to see because we're seeing the 130 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 5: game kind of go back. We're going back in time 131 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: where we're seeing more twenty one personnel, more bigs on 132 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 5: the field, more old. 133 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: School running game. 134 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: So you know, it's just a matter of time before 135 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: we see the four backs re emerging, some of those 136 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: fullbacks and it'll be former DLA a. 137 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: Real quick RHTT and then Buck follow up any concern 138 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't have any concern about the Bills in this one. 139 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: They kind of walked into the founds nests in a 140 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: night game. 141 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: And Josh Allen said the same things, like we walked 142 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: into a buzz sow and look, I think you're going 143 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: to have some of those. And as he said, I think, 144 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'm glad we got this one now, right. 145 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: So you know, if you felt like maybe there were 146 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: some flaws maybe just play, you know, didn't play up 147 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: to up to the standard in this game, you know 148 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: that can be fixed. And and if there were some 149 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: things that that they noticed on tape that that obviously 150 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: the Ravens were ready for, then this gives them an 151 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: opportunity to correct those and get back in there and 152 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: get things done. But yeah, I don't I don't imagine 153 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: that the Josh Allen led Bills are going to have 154 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 3: many more games like this against the top competition. I'm 155 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 3: just glad that he's okay after this hit right here, 156 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: which you know had us kind of wondering for a 157 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: little bit because he was down on the ground. 158 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: Buck, no concerns. 159 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 5: My only concern would be without a true number one 160 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: receiver on the perimeter. When they played the good teams, 161 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 5: the elite teams, how did they deal? We didn't see 162 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 5: that offense flow. 163 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: Man. 164 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: I obviously saw it at his best at Monday night 165 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 5: where they were going to Licary Core and everyone can go. 166 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 5: They were, they were doing their thing. But I do 167 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 5: wonder with al Stefan Diggs, without Gabe Davis, as they're 168 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 5: relying on this wide receiver by committee when they play 169 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: some of the elite teams, do they have enough firepower 170 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 5: to do it without Josh Allen having to play like 171 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 5: a superhero because he had to kind of go into 172 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 5: superhero mode on Sunday night, and it wasn't good for 173 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: the Buffalo Bills when he. 174 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: Has to play like that. 175 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Ravens are just a tough matchup 176 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: for a lot of teams. You just don't see teams 177 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: play the way they play really on both sides of 178 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: the ball. So I'm willing to forgive that performance from 179 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Let's get to the next game here, 180 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: another undefeated team, the Kansas City Chiefs. It hasn't been pretty. 181 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: Wasn't pretty in this game. You know, I was there 182 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: calling the game for the Chargers. Ten nothing. Chargers are 183 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: up early and then you see, you know, the quick 184 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: strike ability which really hasn't been there for this Chiefs 185 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: offense for quite some time. They go max protection, they 186 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: take the deep shot to Xavier where he gets them 187 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: right back in the game. It's next thing, you know, 188 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: it's ten to ten. They find a way to put 189 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: a drive together and ended up winning this ball game 190 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: seventeen to ten offensively. I still, you know, there's issues 191 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs man a huge injury Rashi Rice, who 192 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: had been really passing offense the entirety of it. He 193 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: goes down with a torn acl unfortunately on this actually 194 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: on this interception return by Christian Fulton is when it happened. 195 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: It was a little friendly fire there. So from Patrick Mahomes, 196 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: you hate to see that, but that's that's an offense. 197 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Kelsey started to get going a little bit, so that's 198 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: a promising sign for the Chiefs. I don't think their 199 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: tackles are very good. They got exposed again in this game. 200 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: That would be a reason to be concerned for the 201 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: chief side of things. But you know, Buck, we always 202 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: say it, right, Winners win. They find ways when they 203 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: need to make plays. When they needed to get a 204 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: first down late in the ballgame, they run a little 205 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: mesh and they get Xavier Worthy on Sante Samuel Junior 206 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: on a little under and he's that ice is the 207 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: game finishes the game. So that's from the chief side 208 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: of things, Chargers Charger side of things, the positives. Look, 209 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: he held the Chiefs to seventeen points. You know, so 210 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: your defense is playing well. You got after Patrick Mahomes, 211 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: You sacked him I think three times in this ballgame. 212 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: McConkie made some plays, which is good to see. I 213 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: think he's going to be a good player. But when 214 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: you're down tackles, man, I mean we derwin James Bosa. 215 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: That's one thing. The defense was still fine, but offensive. 216 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: We think about fifteen pressures, and part of that's on 217 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: just not having you know, as not many teams do 218 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: the depth to be able to absorb those types of injuries. 219 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: And then part of it is look this Chiefs defensive front, 220 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: they're good and there are guys like Wharton who nobody 221 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: talks about, Carloftis who can bowl rush hip and then 222 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Chris Jones is a dominant player. So I mean, I've 223 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: fault the Chargers for giving up the pressures, but I 224 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: don't want to short the Chiefs their credit for what 225 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: they did up front. 226 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, really good team. Kens and Chiefs know how to do. 227 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 5: And you talked about winners winning, they experienced their expertise. 228 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 5: The fact that they've been able to do this three 229 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 5: out the last four years, kind of knowing what it 230 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: takes to get to the final, the final game. There's 231 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 5: some confidence that comes with that, and the fact that 232 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: they've been able to do it differently. They've done with 233 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 5: a high powered offense, they've done it with defense playing. 234 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: At an a level. 235 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 5: They have the ability to morph into whatever team they 236 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 5: need to to win games. And that's a dangerous thing 237 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 5: to face because they just can change spees and Andy 238 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 5: Reid is willing to do whatever it. 239 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: Takes to win. 240 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 5: As long as you can't see the Chiefs do that, man, 241 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: you have to deal with them if you're going to 242 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 5: get to the AFC title game. 243 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: I think a couple of things on this one. 244 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: Obviously, DJ, you saw the you know, the Rashi Rice 245 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: injury didn't look good obviously when it happened. You know, 246 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: everyone talking about the ACL is what's been feared, you 247 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: know for him, who is their number one wide receiver, 248 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: right And then now we saw a re emergence of 249 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey back in this offense with the you know, 250 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: the eight or the seven catches on the nine targets, 251 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 3: and you do wonder, like what difference would a Derwin 252 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: James have made in this game on that player in particular. 253 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 4: But I think what I'm most curious about now. 254 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: Is without Rice, who was the guy in the past 255 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: game so far this year for this offense, what does 256 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: Worthy become? 257 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 4: Like what did what did you see out there? 258 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: And how they deployed Worthy DJ from watching this thing 259 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: up close and personal, and like, where do you think 260 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: his role expands and can it really expand to account 261 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 3: for the loss of Rice. 262 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't you know, run the full complement of 263 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: routes coming into this game, and really after that first week, 264 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: he didn't even see him really involve. He's just basically 265 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: been a vertical stretch option for them and they haven't. 266 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that was they threw the stat up during 267 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: the game. I think that was Mahomes's first fifty plus 268 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: yard touchdown pass since like twenty twenty two, which is 269 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: shocking when you think about how vertical this passing game 270 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: used to be once upon a time. But he's gonna 271 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: have to start running more routes. He's gonna have start 272 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: doing more things. You saw it with a shallow cross, 273 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, late in the game, which was good to see. 274 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: From the chief standpoint. But add Adden, you know, just 275 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: just more ways to get yeah, no, yeah, and no. 276 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: And they're gonna they're gonna give him. They're gonna throw 277 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: the screens, They're gonna get those little quick hitters in 278 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: those now routes and zip those out to them. He'll 279 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: get those, but he's gonna have to develop more and 280 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to get something out of Juju Smith, 281 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: Schuster and some of these other guys. It's not gonna 282 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: be enough. You know, Kelsey is going to each up 283 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: if you want to play zone against him, but I 284 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: I you know, you look at how to match up 285 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs and you're gonna have to You're gonna 286 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: have to get up there and challenge them. And that's 287 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: where you know, that's where Worthy has to win. He 288 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: has to win when you get those those opportunities. 289 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 290 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: The thing that Andy Ree can always lean on is 291 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 5: he can go back to that old Philadelphia Eagles playbook 292 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: and figure out a way to uh use the same. 293 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: Plays that he used for Deshaun DeShawn Jackson. 294 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 5: He can use those plays for Xavier Worthy and you 295 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 5: will see more of the shallow crosses show up because 296 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 5: Xavier Worthy is really good at that. You will see 297 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: the occasional vertical shots and the screens and things. Uh, 298 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 5: He'll have plenty of opportunities to have his impact on 299 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 5: the game. 300 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: But you're right, it's the other guy who has to 301 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: show show up? 302 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 5: Is it? Juju Smith Schuster h being a guy that 303 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 5: kind of morphs into their second dependable wide receiver outside 304 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 5: of Travis Kelsey because Kelsey now goes to the top 305 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: of the list. 306 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: When it comes to the targets. 307 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: Uh, can Juju you give them that chain mover presence 308 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: while you have Xavier Worthy continue to expand his game 309 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: become more than just kind of like that one trick 310 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 5: pony as the big play specialist. 311 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Noah Gray too. 312 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you use more tight one of those two 313 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: tight insights because Juju wasn't targeted once in this game. 314 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: No, well, I know one thing, sky Morey can be 315 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: targeted again either, because they gave him one third down 316 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: opportunity on outroute ball went right through his hands. And uh, 317 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how much it like he's going to 318 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: be in the I don't know how much long he's 319 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: going to be in the trust tree. H After that? 320 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, let's. 321 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: Let's keep it moving here. Let's get to the Minnesota game. Minnesota, 322 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: green Bay, Jordan Love back in the mix twenty yards, 323 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: had some turnovers. Overall, I think on the Green Bay 324 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: side of things, you feel encouraged that he's healthy enough 325 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: to do everything you need to do going forward. But 326 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota got out to a nice lead and was able 327 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: to hold on. As you see on the screen here, 328 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold multiple TD passes four straight games. Justin Jefferson 329 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: was outstanding. Aaron Jones still showed he has more in 330 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: the tank going through and and and watching this team, 331 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: they're they're very well coached. They are a very well 332 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: coached team. And I don't know that you can say 333 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: that in a lot of these games when you're when 334 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you're going through and you're you're you're scratching your head 335 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: and asking questions on both sides of the ball. In 336 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: terms of offensive play caller defensive play caller, I don't 337 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: know red I'd put them in the in the top 338 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: throt in the league when you when you combine when 339 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: you combine that those two guys with Flores defensively and 340 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: what koc is doing offensively, I think. 341 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: That's a great point. 342 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we've talked on on on this show quite 343 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 3: a bit about what Brian Flores does on the defensive 344 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: side of the ball, but I want to talk about what, 345 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 3: you know, a re emergence of a big time explosive 346 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: player does for Kevin O'Connell calling the plays and game 347 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: planning this offense. Jordan Addison returns after the Week one 348 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: injury and looks as explosive as we have ever seen him. 349 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: He had the two touchdowns in this game, one of 350 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: the ground, one through the air, and you know, four catches, 351 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: four targets, seventy eight yards. I mean when you pair 352 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: that with Justin Jefferson, and then you know Jalen Naylor 353 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: has played really well, you know, in in uh. 354 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 4: In Adison's absence. 355 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: But the thing that I thought, you know, watching this 356 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: is you look at how defenses want to play a 357 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson offense. Right, They're gonna, if they're in a 358 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: if it's not a too high look, they're gonna shade 359 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 3: that single safety to the Justin Jefferson side. And I 360 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: think now defenses are gonna be like, we we can't 361 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: do that. Because Addison won on a stutter go uh 362 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: that I mean that went for a score through the 363 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean that was there was no contest like him 364 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: one on one on that side with with nobody over 365 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: the top. 366 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta play. 367 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: I think they're gona see a ton of two high 368 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: looks now, but you're gonna you're gonna play this this 369 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: offense straight up with Addison in there, like you cannot 370 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: overplay to Jefferson because Addison will crush you. And then 371 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: they can get him the ball in so many ways 372 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: that little uh, that little end round that they had 373 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: him on, the moves that he made with the ball 374 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: in his hands to get into the end zone. There, 375 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: his stop start, quickness, fluidity at the top of the 376 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: routes in and out of breaks. 377 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: It's just, uh, it's so much fun to watch. 378 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: And I mean, I'd love to be Kevin O'Connell Callen 379 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: plays right now. 380 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: You know. 381 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: It's funny, DJ, because you talked about any two play 382 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: callers that are better than this duo that we have 383 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 5: up in Minnesota. And I go back to that visit 384 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: that we had last summer, Red and I were up 385 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: there and Brian Floydes is just teaching the defense and 386 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 5: they're working on pre snap, the skies and post snap 387 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 5: movement and how everything is coordinated. And I remember last 388 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: year it was smoking mirrors because he didn't have the 389 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: personnel that would give him an opportunity to really dominate. 390 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 5: So he did a lot of with schematics and creativity 391 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 5: and tricks and those things. Fast forward a year later, 392 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 5: he now has better personnel and he's doing the same thing. 393 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: And they just have what I call a high IQ. 394 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 5: Defense because they can throw so many different things at you, 395 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 5: and because they're really smart in the back end, they 396 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 5: can execute it. This combination of offense and defense is 397 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 5: one of the best combinations in football. And I know 398 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: we didn't talk about the Minnesota Vikings being contenders coming 399 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 5: into the year, but to me, the way that they 400 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: have just kind of rolled through these first four games, 401 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: they're absolutely in that conversation as one of the best, 402 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 5: if not the best team in football. 403 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: It's also a point I was talking with Romo before 404 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: the game yesterday and I was talking about the advantage 405 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have with having Spags who's not getting head 406 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: coaching looks, so you have that continuity with Andy Reid. Offensively, 407 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: you just keep building and building and building, and then 408 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: when you have defensively you get into the graduate level courses. 409 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: So I don't know what's gonna happen with Floraes if 410 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna get another opportunity. Obviously, it did not go 411 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: well at all and his first stint as a head coach, 412 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: and I hope for his sake, if that's what he wants, 413 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: he'll get another opportunity. But I could envision this being 414 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: a situation where these guys are there together for quite 415 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: some time and they can have some stability and really 416 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: build something special there with Minnesota. One positive note before 417 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: we move on on Green Bay. Jayden Reid seven for 418 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: a buck thirty nine. When I went and watched his 419 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: targets in this game, he can play inside, he can 420 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: play outside. He works in the middle of the field, 421 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: he works back to the ball. He's an outstanding hands catcher, 422 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: like he plucks everything, attacks the ball in the air. 423 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: He's instinctive when the play breaks down. He is a really, 424 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: really good player. So for everyone wondering kind of who 425 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: that go to guy is for Green Bay, all those 426 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: different receivers that they have, I think he might be 427 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: the toughest cover of any of those guys, and if 428 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: I was Jordan Love, I needed a completion. That's where 429 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm going. I just feel very confident and comfortable with him. 430 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: I think he's a really, really good football player. All right, 431 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: let's keep it, keep the train rolling here. Pittsburgh, Indy. 432 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh entered this game undefeated. Actually, Buck was a you know, 433 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: a good stat game for justin fields. It's some nice 434 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: things offensively. Pittsburgh came back and got back into this 435 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: ball game. But you have the injury to Anthony Richardson, 436 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: and Joe Flacco just fills right in. I mean, that's 437 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: a nice luxury to have to be able to throw 438 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: him in there. 439 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a nice luxury to have. 440 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: But if I'm Chris badd, I'm beginning to get a 441 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: little worried and concerned about Anthony Richardson. Having to lead 442 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 5: the game so often has been a part of his 443 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 5: injury history. Like he gets banged up, he gets beat up. 444 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 5: That's been a part of his deal since he left 445 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 5: high school. But man, our franchise guy, he's never available, 446 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 5: and we went get insurance. 447 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: We got Joe Flacco. 448 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 5: But when you think about what they have done in 449 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 5: terms of putting this offense together and how they build it. 450 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: They build it with Anthony Bridgson in mind. He's not 451 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: available to play at some point. 452 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: Man, it becomes frustrating if you're Shane Stycking trying to 453 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 5: figure out how to build an offense around the player 454 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 5: that is never available to play. Yeah. 455 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: I was watching this one on Game Day Live, and 456 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: obviously we we played this one heavy when it went 457 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: when it went in, and you know, you saw the 458 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: hit happen initially and you're like, oh man, it just 459 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 3: doesn't look comfortable, you know, trying to get down right 460 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 3: and take care of himself. And and it was Mika 461 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick that came in and kind of lit him up 462 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: the first time. And then he comes back in and 463 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 3: you can kind of see he's trying to he's trying 464 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: to look run. It just didn't look and then he's 465 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: still trying to like kind of get down and takes 466 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 3: another big shot. I'm just glad he didn't end up 467 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: with a you know, a head injury as well. On 468 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: how that ended up going down when he met Fitzpatrick 469 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick for the second time. The good news for the 470 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: Colts is they you know, as you said, Flacco is 471 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 3: a great luxury to have as a backup quarterback. I mean, 472 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: that was a great signing by Ballard to go ahead 473 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: and get him. But Josh Downs is back in a 474 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: big way for this team, and you know, missed the 475 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: first couple of weeks coming back from the high ankle 476 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: he suffered early in training camp. I remember seeing him, 477 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 3: you know, in this in training camp, and I was like, 478 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 3: holy smoked, Josh Downs is explosive, you know, and we 479 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: saw glimpses of that certainly early in his career and 480 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: then now coming in here. I mean, he's something that 481 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: the Colts didn't really have. I mean, you look at 482 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: the weapons on this team and even throwing Jonathan Taylor 483 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: into it. We talked about building the basketball team like 484 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 3: he is that that guard. He is that guy that 485 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: can get shifty in the slot. The way that he 486 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 3: works on some of these option routes. It's like, I 487 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: do I do not envy being on defense and having 488 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: to cover Josh Downs one on one. And the Steelers, 489 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: you know, found that out pretty quickly with him in 490 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: the slot there, even when he catches it short of 491 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: the sticks, which he did. 492 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: On a little out route late in the game. 493 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: I mean the move that he made with the ball 494 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 3: in his hands to ditch the first tackler and then 495 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: get the first down on a third and nine. I mean, 496 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 3: he had the guy that forced him out of bounce 497 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: going like this, like what I mean, what do we do? 498 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 4: What do we do? He was just winning on every route. 499 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: And you know, like you think about all the guys 500 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: that they have Pierce and Ady Mitchell and Michael Pittman 501 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: and all those big, towering tight ends, He's the guy 502 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: that's different, that just feels different from the body type 503 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: and that kind of slithery, explosive in and out of 504 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: breaks perspective from the slot. It's that I think that 505 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: gives the Colts a real weapon, certainly with Flacco back 506 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: there too, that can you know, really kind of understand 507 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 3: where and how Josh Downs wants to operate. 508 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: Just for a reminder, Joe Flacco was picked one spot 509 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: after Gaster cherlests in one spot before Jeff Otah in 510 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: that draft. It's been a minute Joe Flacco has been around. 511 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: That was the Jake Long Chris Long Draft in two 512 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: thousand and eight. Joe Flacco has been playing football for 513 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: a long time. As the point that I'm that I'm 514 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: getting at. Probably haven't thought of Jeff Otah in a minute, buck, 515 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: Have you given any decade uh. 516 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 3: Days days older than Anthony Richardson's mom or eight days 517 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: younger one of the two. 518 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: They're like close in age. So it's like, yeah, that 519 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: tells you. 520 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hey, hats off to Joe FLACKA way to go, buddy. 521 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: And man, I'll tell you what. It was a crusta 522 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: victory for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers over the Philadelphia Eagles. 523 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: We can we can start good or bad. Ratt. I'll 524 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: let you uh, I'll let you kick us off here. 525 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: You can go good Tampa, or you can go pretty 526 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: bad there on the foul on the Philly side are 527 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: gonna go? Now, you chose violence today, Go ahead. 528 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: It does go hand in hand, though, I think, and look, 529 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: I think offensively, we all understand that the Eagles were 530 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 3: short handed, right, no Aj Brown, no DeVante Smith, and 531 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: that obviously showed up. 532 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 4: But I thought this was just as much. 533 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: About the defensive performance as it was about the troubles 534 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 3: on offense for Jalen Hurtson company. I think it says 535 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: something when on a first drive of the game, a 536 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: drive where many offensive coordinators in play callers are scripting 537 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: those first ten to fifteen plays, those openers, and they said, 538 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 3: you know what, we got a ten play drive. We're 539 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: gonna throw and take it to the air. On nine 540 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 3: of those plays, okay, nine out of ten they went 541 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: to the air against this Eagles defense right testing whether 542 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: they could actually get after Baker Mayfield and defend Mike Evans, 543 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: Chris Godwin, Trey Palmer and company on the outside. And 544 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: the answer was no, they could not. Baker Mayfield with 545 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 3: a lead, threw the ball thirty three times in the 546 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: first half, thirty three and you know, like he was 547 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: on right. He was on fire in this game. He 548 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: made some terrific throw some tight windows. 549 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: Shot. 550 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: That one right there to Palmer was incredible, and Slay 551 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: actually had pretty good coverage. 552 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 4: There, not much he could do. It was just too good. 553 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: But I just think this defense is not good enough yet. 554 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: In the pass game of surprise, they couldn't get after 555 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 3: the passer as much, and they played more snaps of 556 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: cover one right some man c single high safety than 557 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: anybody in the league this year or this week, and 558 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: it just it wasn't working against this Buccaneers offense, and 559 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: I thought Liam Cohen had a great plan, recognized where 560 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 3: they thought they could get and find some success. 561 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 4: And obviously Bucky they did there. 562 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah they did. 563 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: And you know it's funny because there was a conversation 564 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 5: about Baker Mayfield coming into building and you know, a 565 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: little more relaxed vibe than a high, strong vibe that 566 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: existed under Tom Brady. 567 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: So Tom Brady took a little shot, had a little 568 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 2: fun with it. But I would say this. 569 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: I will say that Baker Mayfield is a perfect fit 570 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 5: for who the Tampa Bay Buccaneers needed at quarterback right now. 571 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: And that vibe that he has, that connection that he 572 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 5: has with his teammates. When you've been to Tampa and 573 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 5: you talk to the players, they love him, they revere him, 574 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 5: but they also have taken on some of the good 575 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 5: parts of his personality. The Baker Mayfield they watched at 576 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 5: Oklahoma that was super competitive, super confident, almost borderline cocky. 577 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 2: They have a little bit of that belief. 578 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: And with the offense feeling like that and Todd Bulls 579 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 5: just ringing heat from everywhere, consistently crafting these defensive masterpieces, 580 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: the Buccaneers are legit and we hadn't talked about him 581 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 5: a lot, even though they had won a division a 582 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: year ago. But the Buccant is legit. They have tough 583 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 5: out and they gonna be a problem for a lot 584 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 5: of teams in the NFC. 585 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I'll give Jason light a lot of credit, man, because 586 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: you go from kind of the Jameis Winston who has 587 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: some initial success and then it you know, it doesn't 588 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: end up working out there, and so he does the 589 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: all hands on deck, rely on your previous relationships, and 590 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: he recruits Tom Brady when everybody wanted Tom Brady and 591 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: he gets a super Bowl out of it, and then 592 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, well now tom Brady's gone. You know 593 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: what's the next move? And is this going to be 594 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: a team that, because they've been in the playoffs, is 595 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: not going to get a chance to pick high to 596 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. That's challenging, man. When you don't have 597 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to draft one high and you lose a 598 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, greatest of all time quarterback, how do 599 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: you go about replacing him? And I don't know if 600 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: anybody could make a case they could have found it 601 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: better replacement than Baker Mayfield. You know, Buck, I saw 602 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: Brady's comments the other day. I found that interesting from 603 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: the game. 604 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: But it's true. 605 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Baker Mayfield I think was the right quarterback 606 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: at the right time for this franchise. And this is 607 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: a team that's been in the playoffs four straight years 608 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and very much looks like a playoff team going on 609 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: five years in a row here. So hats off to 610 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: Jason Lytton's job. He's done, and I'll give him a credit. 611 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: Another pick to a guy that we really liked. Bucky 612 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: Irving's fun to watch man. He is so quick in 613 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: and out. His change of direction is excellent. He's got 614 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: great vision. Another one of those examples of God Lee, 615 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: I just stick with your initial grade. When I first 616 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: did my first you know, ranking and stacking the running backs, 617 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: he was way up there as one of the top 618 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: backs in this draft. And he's not the biggest guy 619 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: in the world, but Buck was. I get so mad 620 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: at myself, Dude, Just have some guts, have some courage, 621 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: and stick with what you saw on the tape because 622 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: I love what I saw from him in college. 623 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's another one, real quick go ahead, Yeah, 624 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: another one real quick on the draft picks, yeah ya, dab. 625 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 4: I mean you want to talk a big physical ame. 626 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 3: Six pressures in this in this game to lead all 627 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: all rushers for either team. 628 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 4: He's been a stud on that defense. 629 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 3: They've made they've hit on some the some defenders now 630 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 3: in the last couple of drafts and uh and that's 631 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: a big reason why they're so good on that side 632 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: of the wall. 633 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: What do you think, Buck? I want to get one 634 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: last thought from you, then we'll move on. Keep the 635 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: train moving here. But has there ever been a transaction 636 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: of players even though it wasn't a direct transaction? But 637 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: you have Hassan Reddick who who ends up going to 638 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: the Jets who you know that that trade habens. He 639 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: doesn't show up, they can't get a deal done. He's 640 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: obviously giving you nothing. Bryce huff signs as a free 641 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: agent with the Eagles, has done nothing like two guys 642 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: who had so much success in the previous spot and 643 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: have found you got nothing either one of them. 644 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: No little buyer's are more on both parties. 645 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 5: And look, man, it's a great lesson to be learned 646 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 5: in free agency. A lot of times we think that oh, 647 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: not only as players the grass is greener, but on 648 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 5: the other side, you think you can pluck somebody off 649 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 5: another roster and put him in your environment and he's 650 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 5: going to be the same player, and it doesn't work 651 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 5: like that. That's why you hear so many general managers 652 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 5: always talk about draft and develop and resign your own, 653 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 5: because at least you rear them in your process, in 654 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: your culture, and you know exactly who they are. You 655 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 5: understand the warts and the flaws and how to work 656 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 5: around them. When you take somebody else's, I would say problems, 657 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 5: you don't know if you necessarily can fit it fix it, 658 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 5: and you also don't know how they going to fit 659 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: into your locker room or your scheme. Far more subjective 660 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: when you do the free agent route as opposed to drafting, development, 661 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: and then resigning them. 662 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, no question, that's a great lesson. Indeed, let's get 663 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: to the next game here in New Orleans Atlanta. I want 664 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: to get to the Atlanta side of things here, and 665 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: I want to hit on one specific player. I'm pulling 666 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: up my notes on him. Troy Anderson, linebacker for the 667 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: Falcons in this game a nice win for the Falcons, 668 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: has seventeen tackles. He's literally all over the field. You 669 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: see him run down, Alvin Kamara repeatedly range to the 670 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: sideline closing speed. So I'm like, let me go back 671 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: and find my notes on him. So it's coming out 672 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: of Montana State. He was six three and a half 673 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty three pounds. He ran four to 674 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: four to two. He was originally a quarterback, then a 675 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: running back, then an outside linebacker before becoming an inside 676 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: linebacker there at Montana State. Pulverizes blockers speed of the 677 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: alley big time AA so agility and change the direction 678 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: to cover lots of PBUs. He gets a little bit 679 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: high and we'll get washed at times down inside, but 680 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: he's he's somebody with tremendous athletic ability and instincts. Former quarterback. 681 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: What man, that was a heck of a game for him. 682 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: I mean that you talk about buck. We always look 683 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: for guys that can run, cover and hit in blitz 684 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: as linebackers. I mean, that's the that's what you're looking 685 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: for at the linebacker position. That's how you deal with 686 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: guys like Alvin Kamara. 687 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 688 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 5: Man, You just talk about what this team has done 689 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 5: is funny because the Atlanta Falcons are look, I mean 690 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 5: some some red zone flow away from being three and one. 691 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: I mean, they're a team that has kind of put 692 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 5: themselves in a really, really good position. And when we 693 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 5: think about this defense where Raheem Morris and Jimmy Lake, 694 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 5: how they've been able to kind of do it, and 695 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 5: how they've been able to do it while also folding 696 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 5: in some hot IQ veterans. You think about Jesse Bates, 697 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 5: you think about Justin Simmons, Matthew Judon coming over. 698 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: They're on their way. 699 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 5: And the good thing if I am Atlanta Falcons fan, 700 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: they've been able to do it with their offense not 701 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 5: clicking on all cylna's yet, you would think that Kirk 702 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 5: Cousins is going to get healthy. He's going to find 703 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 5: his way to get you know, with cale Pits and others, 704 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: and when that part of the ball takes off, if 705 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: the defense can maintain his course. The NFC is very 706 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: competitive with a lot of unheroded teams, but the Elant 707 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 5: of five is another team in that conversation. 708 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: Nice, when was the last time you saw a team 709 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: win a football game without running a single play in 710 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 3: the red Zonelkens did not run to play, They did 711 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: not run a play in the red zone. 712 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: They had a special. 713 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 3: Teams touchdown on a muff punt that kind of started 714 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: things off. Well, they had the defensive touchdowns youre talking 715 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: about with Andrew. 716 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: I mean like I kept looking at that. I was like, 717 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: I got something's wrong here. 718 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: Let me go. 719 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: I was watching, we were watching this game following along 720 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 3: on game day wide. 721 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 4: I just I couldn't believe it. 722 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 3: But this was This is about how the one hundred 723 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: and eleventh meeting between two bitter division rivals was. 724 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: Going to go, and it was going to be tight 725 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 4: down to the end. 726 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: And now the Falcons own a fifty six to fifty 727 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: five series advantage over the New Orleans Saints. But I 728 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: do want to give some positives for the Saints here. 729 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 3: Alante Taylor has become one of the one of the 730 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: better and more physical nickel players in the league. He 731 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: remember those three sacks he had in the first week 732 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: against the Carolina Panthers, where you're like, all right, you 733 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: let the nickel guy get you three times, and you're 734 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 3: not not seeing it right, You're not accounting for it. 735 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 4: Might just be he's also really dang good. 736 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: Because I watched him in coverage a couple of times 737 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: against Drake London in this game, held up really well 738 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: and then like he's just he stays alive in the 739 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: play for so long. I mean London has a surefire catch. 740 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: I mean at borderline it was a catch fumble. He 741 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: comes in there and swipes and rakes at that football, 742 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: knocks it out a couple of different times. He was 743 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: about an inch away on his vertical from having another 744 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: terrific PBu. He's just, he's been really good for them 745 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: and he's a guy that they can build with. 746 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: Over there. 747 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: Paulson Deebo played pretty well too, So they got a 748 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 3: couple of good young corners out there. 749 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 4: Not to mention, you know, Marshall Latimore. 750 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: I just pulled up my notes on Alante Taylor, who 751 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: alerted me that he was going to hit on him. 752 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: So just over six foot, one hundred and nine nine pounds, 753 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: four to three six what he ran. He had the 754 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: fastest GPS at the Senior Bowl. Two interceptions that last year. 755 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: He's a little tight in the change of direction stuff, 756 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: but really instinctive in zone. He was very aggressive and 757 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: tough to fill against the run. Had someations versus double 758 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: moves in the Old Miss game. That was the only 759 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: that was the only bugaboo there. But at the at 760 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: the foundation and core of a player, you have you 761 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: have tremendous speed, you have tremendous toughness, and that's uh, 762 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: that's something you can work with. And they've found a 763 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: way to feature those attributes in a big way. Buck. Yeah, 764 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: I just. 765 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 2: Remember when he was coming out. 766 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 5: I just remember him being like the versal guy that 767 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 5: people talked about, right, you couldn't figure out. 768 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: As he's safety nickel like. 769 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 5: And we are now in a league full of specialists 770 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 5: and in the secondary, I just see the evolution where 771 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 5: we used to talk about the little guy being the nickel, 772 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 5: then it became a we got big nickels whatever. And 773 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 5: now the position has been where people that are playing 774 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 5: the star position in college are basically scouted and evaluated 775 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: to play the star position in the pros Alante. Taylor's versatility, 776 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 5: its size, its toughness, his speed was always coveted. But 777 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 5: we are now in an era where they are really 778 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 5: featuring those guys that have those traits and so it's 779 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 5: really good to see. 780 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: I want to do a speed round here on the 781 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: rookie QBS. So I'm gonna give you, I'll give you 782 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: my three thoughts on or a thought on each of 783 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: these guys here, these rooky quarterbacks. Buck followed up, RHTT 784 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: follow up, follow up Bucky here. But I'll start first 785 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: of all, Jayden Daniels. Awesome. Once again, the game is 786 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: slow for him. One of the visual that I had 787 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: for him was, and Buck, We've talked about this before, 788 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: is when you're a kid and you go into the 789 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: gym and you're taught as a basketball player. Hey, as 790 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: a young player, start right underneath the rim. I'm gonna 791 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: see ten go through. I'm gonna back up three steps. 792 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna see ten go through. I'm gonna eventually get 793 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: back to the free throw line that I'm gonna eventually 794 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: get back to the three point line. But I think 795 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury does a wonderful job of let him see 796 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: some go through the hoop, get into a rhythm. The 797 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: game slowed down for him, and then the degree of 798 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: difficulty just goes up from there. But he's he is 799 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: so poised and so calm and so accurate. It's elite 800 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: stuff what you're seeing there from Jayden Daniels. Let's get 801 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: the Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams again strides you're seeing strides 802 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: every week. They gave him some screens. They gave him 803 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: some easy completions in this game, which was good to see. 804 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: There are some balls he missed down the field, one 805 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: of which I didn't think DJ Moore was really busting it, 806 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: So I give him a little bit of defense there. 807 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: Still hold the ball at times, but then also was 808 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: able to extend and create. And then you're seeing again 809 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: these handful He's giving you four or five plays every 810 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: week where you go, okay, I can hang my hat 811 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: on this. This is the good stuff and he's giving 812 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: you that. So that's a great sign, and that's normal. 813 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: That's the normal path for a young quarterback. What Jayden 814 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: Daniels is doing right now is kind of like what CJ. 815 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: Stroud was doing last year. That's abnormal to have it 816 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: click this fast. I do think they should use Caleb 817 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: Williams on more design runs. You only have three carries 818 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: and two kneel downs in this game. I think they 819 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: can do more of that. And then finally, Bo Nicks, 820 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: the guy found a way to win a game he 821 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: played in the monsoon. Darn Near had to throw the 822 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: ball at two hands at times. They couldn't really do anything. 823 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: But when they needed to, they got him on the move, 824 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: he hit a ball and then the Jets busted a coverage. 825 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else to say there 826 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: other than he hung in there in a monsoon and 827 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 1: Buck found a way to win a game with sixty yards. 828 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: So those are my thoughts on the three qbs. I'll 829 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: let you guys give me what you think. 830 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 5: Okay, So let's go with Jaden Daniels. And I don't 831 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 5: want to say like for the second ye in a row, 832 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 5: but for the second ue in a row. QB two 833 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 5: has been masterful early in their career, and what was 834 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 5: in from Jaden Daniels is franchise changing in terms of 835 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 5: not just what we're seeing on the field, but how 836 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 5: his teammates respond to him. When you hear the words 837 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 5: about he's different, he's special, he's like the savior. He's 838 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 5: this you already know in the locker room. There's a 839 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 5: belief in their franchise quarterback that if you just give 840 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 5: him the ball back, he can find a way to 841 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: get it done. And we've talked about experience and how 842 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 5: experience matters and how the fifty four fifty five stars 843 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 5: that he had at college, the game would slow down, 844 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 5: and we talked about VR and those things before a 845 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 5: young player to be so comfortable at the next level, 846 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 5: you know, where the game is supposed to be harder. 847 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: But yeah, this dude is completing eighty percent of his 848 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 5: passes in games and just getting better and better. He's 849 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,920 Speaker 5: something else, man, And it just goes to show you 850 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 5: that as a scout, when you started tracking guys at freshmen, 851 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 5: you got to give them grace because they certainly can't improve. 852 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: When you think about what he was as a. 853 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 5: Freshman at Arizona State to how he finished at LSU 854 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 5: to how he's playing now, there's just this arc of 855 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 5: improvement that suggested they don't have to be finished products 856 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 5: when you first look at them. 857 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 2: Give them time and in the right system, with the. 858 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 5: Right play call it, they could be as good as 859 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 5: you want them to be if all the pieces of 860 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 5: the polls will fit. 861 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 3: I think you nailed it on Jayden Daniels. The only 862 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 3: thing I would say is he's bringing out the best 863 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: in his best players like Terry McLaurin is once again 864 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 3: a part of this offense after virtually disappearing a year ago, 865 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 3: which is great to see for the commanders and for Bonnicks. 866 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 3: I remember looking up one time and I think he 867 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 3: was seven for fourteen with minus seven passing yards. 868 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know. 869 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 3: I don't know how it even happens other than the 870 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: weather and the conditions, and so I don't even know 871 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 3: how much we can really take out of that game. 872 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: Whether you guys seen the movie Necessary Roughness, Necessary Roughness. Yeah, 873 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: they're playing in them monsoon. That was the game. They 874 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: needed Kathy Ireland out there and kicked the game. 875 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 4: Well, the Jets did. They could have used. 876 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: Kathy Ireland might have had a better shot at that 877 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: one that did not go well, no question. 878 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 879 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 3: And then on Caleb man Lo again, you're right, like 880 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 3: he gives you the glimpses right the throw to DJ 881 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 3: more in the back of the end zone, like that's 882 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:36,919 Speaker 3: you know, that's special stuff there. 883 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 4: I I do feel like he is holding the ball 884 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: a little bit. 885 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 3: They need to get they need to kind of engineer 886 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: a little bit more, uh you know, ways for him 887 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 3: to get rid. 888 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 4: Of it quickly. See it, hit it, let's go, and 889 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 4: let's and let's move on. Last thing. 890 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 3: I'll just add on the on the commanders who are 891 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: playing some really good football right now. I believe all 892 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 3: alone in the first place of the NFC East at 893 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: three and one. Dan Quinn deserves some serious credit for 894 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: what he's doing There'll so brought over two guys he 895 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 3: knew very well that could help him run his defense, 896 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: and Bobby Wagner at eleven tackles in this game, and 897 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 3: Dorence Armstrong they were together with at the Cowboys. He 898 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 3: had a sack and a half in this game. And 899 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 3: so that defense is playing really good too, and they 900 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: definitely took care of business against Kyler Murray and the Cardinals. 901 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: Last thought on those three rooky quarterbacks the teams they're 902 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: playing for. I was worried about Adam Peters in Washington 903 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: in terms of the offensive line they were going to 904 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: have in front of Jaden Daniels. I thought maybe they 905 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: could have traded back in to the first round to 906 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: get one of those tackles. They held their water. They 907 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: picked Brandon Coleman later, and Brandon Coleman is playing better 908 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: out of TCU than some of these guys who were 909 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: picked in the first round. So hat tip to our 910 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: buddy Adam Peters with the job he did not only 911 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: nail on the quarterback, but doing a good job of 912 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: kind of under the radar build an offensive line that's 913 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: better than it looked on paper. So hats off to 914 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: Adam Peters. All right, it's time to get the Bucks 915 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: game here. Say it. As we get towards the back 916 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: end of the show, we wanted to keep things positive 917 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: as we could. I felt slanted a little negative today, 918 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: but you know, nonetheless, let's uh, let's jump into it. 919 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: I give you the opportunity. You could have gone positive negative, 920 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: you a negative earlier. That's all I'm saying. Right, don't 921 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: give me that look before we get to uh, the 922 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: result here and we'll discuss a big win for the 923 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Buck. I want to get your thoughts on it, 924 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: but I want to hear from the head coach of 925 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: the Jags before we get to you that. I'll let 926 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: you pick it up from there. But this is the 927 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: postgame with Doug Peterson after the Jags lost twenty four 928 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: to twenty. 929 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 6: For what I thought he'd called a great game. We 930 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 6: as coaches, we can't make the We can't go out 931 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 6: there and make the plays. 932 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 5: Right. 933 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 6: It's a two way street. So you know, you guys 934 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 6: can sit here and point the finger all you want, 935 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 6: and that's fine. Point it right at me. I can 936 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 6: take it. Okay, I can take it. So whatever you 937 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 6: want to ask me, say whatever, right, go ahead. 938 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: Uh, here's what I say. 939 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 5: It's no only not good when you begin to wage 940 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 5: wars with the media, the local media. That there has 941 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 5: been this conversation, which I do believe in Jacksonville is 942 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 5: a little premature. It's a little crazy to talk about 943 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 5: Doug Peterson being on the hot seat after four games. 944 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 5: The franchise hasn't had back to back winning season since 945 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 5: two thousand and four two thousand and five. He's had 946 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 5: back to back winning seasons in his first two years 947 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 5: on the job. 948 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 2: Yes, they are one to nine in their last ten games. 949 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 5: Yes, the collapse of last season and the slow start 950 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 5: this season does make you uneasy when you think about that. 951 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 5: But I think you want to have a broader perspective 952 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 5: before you start making those kinds of decisions. That said, 953 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 5: I think it's really important that when the team is struggling, 954 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,439 Speaker 5: the coach has to be uber positive when it comes 955 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 5: to his interactions with the team, how he protects the 956 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,720 Speaker 5: team with the media and those things, and even though 957 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 5: we all can say that it's a player's game, it's 958 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 5: a players league, and that you know. 959 00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 2: Players have to make play. 960 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 5: You run the risk of losing your team if you 961 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 5: come to throw them under the bus in that regard 962 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 5: and they don't understand the context behind it. And so hopefully, 963 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 5: for Doug's sake, he can clean and clear some of 964 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 5: that up in team meetings, because the last thing you 965 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 5: want is everyone pointing fingers and the players being done 966 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 5: with the coach, because once they're done with the coach, 967 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 5: there's no getting that back, and then you have to 968 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 5: make moves to help rectify the situation. 969 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 2: Even though I don't believe it's. 970 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 5: Completely lost, I think it's tenuous, just because of the 971 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 5: way he may have handled himself in this postgame pressing. 972 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna choose to go positive, and. 973 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: Is that regular Tony Robbins over here. 974 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 3: I tell you this is not that's not your I 975 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 3: don't buy into the negative. I don't buy into the negativity. Okay, 976 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 3: our friends at duvall are going. 977 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 4: To figure this thing out. 978 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: It's just it's just it's troubling when you got to 979 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 3: deal with the tech, you know, and you're on the 980 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 3: verge of going zero and four because I thought C J. 981 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 4: Stroud and in Houston, while. 982 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 3: We weren't at their best, you know, on this day, 983 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: and the Jags played, you know, I think better than 984 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 3: we've seen them play. 985 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 2: But C. J. 986 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 3: Stroud continues to give you what you need in the 987 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 3: biggest moments and a nine play sixty four yard touchdown drive, 988 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: you know, playing without Tank Dell, I think makes the 989 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 3: acquisition to Stefan Diggs. You know, that that much bigger 990 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 3: rancause they've got depth now at that wide receiver spot. 991 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 3: And so you know, dari A Goomba walle catches the 992 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 3: game winner. 993 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: There we go. 994 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 3: You know, I mean it must work. You got dev 995 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 3: you got ways to figure it out, you know. And 996 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 3: I think they'll get Joe Mixon back here pretty soon, 997 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: start getting that ground game rolling a little bit more. 998 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 3: But Texan's got it done when they needed to and 999 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 3: sitting there at the top of the division three to one. 1000 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: I'll give you two positives on the Texan side. Nico Collins, 1001 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: he will work in traffic. He has he plays with 1002 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: no fear. There's something that's nice as a quarterback when 1003 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 1: you have a receiver who can work in the middle 1004 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: of the field and win and not least win, but 1005 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: just just oh yeah. But he just plays with no fear. 1006 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: He'll go, he'll run through contact zones. He doesn't gear down, 1007 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't corral the ball with his body embrace like 1008 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: he runs through the ball. He's just a really, really 1009 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: good football player. So that was the positive on the 1010 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: Houston side of things. And then I'll give you the 1011 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: one positive on the Jag side of things. 1012 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: Buck. 1013 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: I watched Brian Thomas Junior all his routes. Dude, he's 1014 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 1: legit like that. That is he is real. Like when 1015 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: you watch him, he is sudden, he's explosive, he can 1016 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: get in and out of breaks. He's not just a 1017 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: vertical receiver. He is he looks like he can be 1018 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: a young one, like he's got that type of ability. 1019 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: But that's the positive. Negative thing is Trevor's missing too 1020 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: many throws. Like you can look at it and say, like, oh, 1021 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: anticipation or is he seeing things. I'm like, man, he 1022 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,919 Speaker 1: just missing like he just missing throws. That's got a change, Yeah, 1023 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: it's got to change. 1024 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 5: And here's the thing that I was unfortunate for the 1025 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 5: Jags because it took away from what I thought was 1026 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 5: a really good game plan to help with a team 1027 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 5: that was struggling get back on track. There were things 1028 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 5: that the j Wars did that were designed to help 1029 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 5: this team get up and going. Number one thing they 1030 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 5: did is they played the hits. Whenever you have a 1031 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 5: young quarterback struggling, you try to give them things that 1032 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 5: he's very comfortable with that he executes really well and 1033 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 5: have success. For Trevor Lawrence, that's screens, quick game, occasional 1034 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 5: shots he's really good on that got off to a 1035 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 5: fast start. The other thing that you do is feed 1036 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 5: the pigs. So when you're struggling, you're trying and get 1037 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 5: the ball to your best players. When you go back 1038 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 5: and you look at the hitch sheet, Christian Kirk had 1039 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 5: twelve targets, Brian Thomas Junior had nine targets. 1040 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: Everybody else had three or fewer. 1041 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 5: And so in a game when you're trying to win 1042 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 5: and you're trying to go all in, don't mess around. 1043 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 5: Get it to your best players. And I say that 1044 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 5: to back up your point about Brian Thomas Junior. I 1045 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 5: don't even think people know how good this young guy 1046 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 5: is man his route running. 1047 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 2: Ability, his playmaking, ability. 1048 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 5: If you have a chance to watch the reverse that 1049 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 5: he ran, it's not only how smooth and fluid he is, 1050 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 5: it's just the innate instincts and reactions that he has 1051 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 5: with the ball in his hands. He is a number 1052 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 5: one all day, every day. And as excited as people 1053 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 5: should be about Mylak neighbors man, Brian Thomas, you won. 1054 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 5: I can't imagine guarding l s U when they had 1055 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 5: both of those guys on the field. I don't know 1056 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 5: why we didn't win more games like it is banana 1057 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 5: is the thing that you by the way, By the way, 1058 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 5: the quarterback, the quarterback. 1059 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: The quarterback wasn't bad either. 1060 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I just I don't know. It just seems like. 1061 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: That he did they not win Antal championship. That defense 1062 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: was all time terrible. How bad is your defense? You 1063 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: couldn't win with Jade Daniels and Leak Neighbors and Brian 1064 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: Thomas Junior. Really, Oh my gosh, that's that should be 1065 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway from the weekend. All right, let's get 1066 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 1: to a quick a quick nugget from each of you here. 1067 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 1: We've got a fun one to me the best game 1068 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: coming up tonight. We've got too with Seahawks Lions. Rhett, 1069 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: your lions here, What are you looking for out of them? 1070 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1071 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,040 Speaker 3: I think just you want you want to be physical 1072 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: here a game in which you know Mike McDonald's defense 1073 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: has been rolling, right, So I think you want to 1074 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 3: find a way to get JAMR Gibbs the football. If 1075 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,239 Speaker 3: we want to find a way to you know, run 1076 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 3: it a little bit here and and you know, you're 1077 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 3: you got the benefit of being at home and use 1078 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 3: that crowd, get after the passer. 1079 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 4: A little bit. 1080 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 2: Uh. 1081 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 3: You know if you're you're on defense trying to deal 1082 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 3: with Geno Smith. 1083 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 4: So I just I feel like physicality and and grit. 1084 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 3: Let this be one of those Dan Campbell h kind 1085 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 3: of mindset type games here against the Seahawks. 1086 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 2: Uh. 1087 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 5: I want to focus on the Seahawks and Mike McDonald 1088 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 5: and how he's taking a tough love approach to a 1089 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,240 Speaker 5: team that was really player friendly on the Pete Carroll 1090 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 5: and I would say the old school discipline that he 1091 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 5: is imposed when you hear the players talk about we 1092 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 5: needed a little more of that to give us the 1093 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 5: edge for us to go to the next level. 1094 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 1095 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 5: To me, I think it's interesting, it's fascinating when you 1096 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 5: have a young guy that kinds a clear understanding of 1097 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 5: his coaching style, how he wants to implement it, how 1098 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 5: he wants to kind of really impose the discipline so 1099 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 5: the team and have the freedom to really max out 1100 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,240 Speaker 5: their talent. 1101 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: It's obviously working when you look. 1102 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,879 Speaker 5: At the way the defense has responded, when you look 1103 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 5: at the way Grub has taken this offense to another level, 1104 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 5: and how they still can go to even higher heights 1105 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 5: with Gino Smith pushing the ball down the field. Really 1106 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 5: good team. This is gonna be a fun one to watch. 1107 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 5: Is two playoff teams squaring off. I'm excited to see 1108 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 5: it tonight. Yeah, I think it's a playoff preview. 1109 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 1: I think these are two of the best young secondaries 1110 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL too, A lot of young talent and 1111 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 1: the secondaries. I'm looking forward to watching those matchups on 1112 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: the perimeter in that ball game. We have one more 1113 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: game here, Tennessee, Miami Buck. Give me a reason, Just 1114 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: give me a reason to watch this thing. What am 1115 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: I looking for here? I'm trying to get excited about it. 1116 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm struggling. I'm struggling to get excited about this game. 1117 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. 1118 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 5: Okay, so we're gonna dig down to the draft, Nick 1119 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 5: and us. We want to see if will Levis can 1120 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 5: bounce back. We want to see if he can clean 1121 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 5: up his game and make us feel like the Tennessee 1122 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 5: Titans don't need to go back and next year's draft 1123 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 5: and get a quarterback. I want to see if will 1124 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 5: Levis can take care of the ball, if he can 1125 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 5: tap into not only the talent that he flashes, but 1126 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 5: can't he refine his game a little bit. 1127 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: So we can get it out that that's not you're 1128 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 1: not making it. You're not making me regular enough game. 1129 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 3: Oh it's not, mao quarterback be dreamy, nao quarterbacks decisions 1130 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 3: he made with great discernment. 1131 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,879 Speaker 1: Okay, that's it, you guys suck. 1132 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: That was not HN needs one hundred points for me 1133 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 3: to win my fantasy game. So I'll be watching that one. 1134 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: Watch it for Ret's fantasy team. That's going to do 1135 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: it for us. Everybody, thanks for hanging with us. We'll 1136 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 1: see you next time. Right here on. Move the sticks.