1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: Michael Verie Show is on the air. So I want 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: to know you think Robert F. 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior is the best man to be leading public health. 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 2: No, no, no answer the question. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 3: Your supporting his decision, you're supporting my support his decision. 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: You just called him a humble, qualified minute. So you 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: think he's the best person to. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: Read public eze. 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: I think that's the best person show. 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: Of course. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 2: I'm no happy. Look at me. I'm a big fat slab. 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 5: I've done what sins in a sades phone pick. I've 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 5: not seen my William two years, which is long enough 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 5: to declare legally did I can't stop eating. 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 6: Get called free trade, you can call it fifteen, you 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 6: can do whatever. 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: You want to call it. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 6: We're gonna make great deals for a country might be free, 20 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 6: might not be free. 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: I can tell you this. When Carrier and Ford and. 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 6: Episco leaving Chicago with a big plant, they're moving to Mexico. 23 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 6: I'm not eating oreos anywhere. You know that, but neither 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 6: is Chris. You're not eating oreos anyway. No more areos 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 6: for either of us. Chris, don't feel bad. 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 7: David Sachs it's a six oh five general partner of 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 7: Craft Ventures in the All In podcast talking about the 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 7: President doing business, and he's talking about the tech dinner 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 7: that a lot of people criticize the president for having 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 7: people like Bill Gates and Zuckerberg there, and look, I 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 7: don't like those guys. It's the president's strategy. It's his strategy. 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 7: I'm not here to applaud or criticize every move he makes. 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 7: There's a lot going on behind the scenes. I suspect 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 7: of his overall strategy. I will leave that to you 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 7: as to how you react to it. But he says 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 7: he did have a strategy. 37 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Maybe half the people at the dinner have actually moved 38 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: to the center or to the right relative to where 39 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: they were, and I think Mark Pinkus has basically put 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: himself in that category. So there's the same people who 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: have been red pilling and moving over to our side. 42 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: And then I'd say, the other half of the people 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 3: in the room haven't necessari changed their politics, and there's 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: there to do business. They want to have a good 45 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: relationship with the government. But the same is true on 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: the part of the president. I saw some conservative influencers saying, 47 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: how can the president me with this person or that person, 48 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: and he's been such an opponent in the past. I mean, look, 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: the president is doing business as well. He asks all 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: the attendees of the dinner, how much you investing in America? 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: You know what do you need to invest more? He 52 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: wants to see the infrastructure investment. Why because it benefits 53 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: all Americans, not just software companies. It benefits the construction industry, 54 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: the trades, the electricians, the carpenters, the energy companies, fracking 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: and so on. So he's there representing the interests of 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: the country, and then many of those CEOs are representing 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: the interests of their companies. And there's a dialogue going on. 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: And it doesn't mean that everyone has to like suddenly 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: become a Republican or change their politics. But it's constructive 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: and this is all in furtherance of having the US 61 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: economy grow better. 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 7: Here's six oh seven David Sachs, big fan of President Trump, 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 7: General partner of Craft Ventures. This is the all in 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: podcast as to why he is bullish on Trump's economy. 65 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: This is the outlook for twenty twenty six and beyond. 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: I mean, this would be the boalcase. Is number one 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: eight trillion dollars of new investment in the US economy 68 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: by private companies and by foreign governments. Number Two, the 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: AI boom. 70 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: You've got this massive build. 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: Out of data centers and I infrastructure underway, and that 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: includes energy and the manufacturing sectors are going to boom 73 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: alongside tech. 74 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: Number three. 75 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: This has been the most affordable summer at the pump 76 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and low gas prices. Don't see 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: me going anywhere anytime soon, So lowest gas prices since 78 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. Number Four, you have these huge new 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: tax and centers for business expansion. You've got the accelerated 80 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: depreciation on equipment purchases on R and D. I think 81 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: those are going to kick in once the big beautiful 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: Bill goes into effect. And then the last thing I 83 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: would say is that interest rate cuts are coming. 84 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Say that now, in. 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: Lot to the latest job support, PAL should really cut 86 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: fifty basis points. 87 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: I doubt September. 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: In September twenty five, yeah, I doubt he will is 89 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: probably be twenty five and then hopefully another twenty five. 90 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: But I think you can make the case that they 91 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: should be fifty now and then twenty five after that. 92 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: In regards of what it is. 93 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: I think that most people think interstrates are coming and 94 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: that's going to juice the economy and further improve our 95 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 3: fiscal position. So look for twenty six. I think there's 96 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: a lot of bullish factors here. 97 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 7: Next is Trump, a polyhapatilla who calls Trump's tariffs a 98 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 7: master stroke of strategy. I play this only because not 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 7: just to puff up Trump, but because you're going to 100 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 7: hear the tariffs are awful by a lot of people. 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 7: And I'm not a tariff guy. I think in this case, 102 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 7: what he's trying to do is cracked back on a 103 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 7: dog on a leash and say, uh, the trade got 104 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 7: out of hand. We allowed it to get out of hand, 105 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 7: and we want it to go back to being free trade. 106 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 7: And the only way to get that is we've got 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 7: to enact. The other side is engaged in arm robbery 108 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 7: of us. We got to get a gun and shoot back. 109 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 7: That's the only way to get to peace in this way. 110 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 7: So sometimes you got to fire a gun to have peace. 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 2: It's a fact. 112 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 8: I think that the terror of some balance are a 113 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 8: pretty smart master stroke of strategy. I think that we 114 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 8: did not understand what the impact of tariffs would be 115 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 8: except for hypothetical econ wonk talk. And so that hypothetical 116 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 8: econ wonk talk basically said that tariffs were always going 117 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 8: to be a disaster. And if you ask them, well, 118 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 8: what is the actual practical data that you would point to, they. 119 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Didn't have any. 120 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 8: It was just more hypotheses. But what is the practical data? 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Now? 122 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 8: I think that the United States is going to book 123 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 8: probably close to half a trillion of incremental revenue. It's 124 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 8: actually forced a stabilization in the dollar, which I think 125 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: that people were always very concerned with what's going to 126 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 8: happen to the dollar complex. Everybody body always screams like 127 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 8: with a like their hair is on fire. But the 128 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 8: dollar complex has stabilized, I think because of tariffs. So 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 8: there's been some real positives. And what Sacks says is right, 130 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 8: which is, whoever is president over the next you know, five, ten, fifteen, 131 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 8: twenty thirty years, there'll be some Democrats, they'll be some Republicans. 132 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be very hard. 133 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 8: To justify why you would undo this now because this 134 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 8: source of revenue is going to be an incredibly important one. 135 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 7: An aluminum plant, or as my wife says, aluminium plant 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 7: has surged to nearly one hundred percent production in South 137 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 7: Carolina because of President Trump's tariffs. Now, I got to 138 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 7: tell you, I get very excited over economic news. 139 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 2: I really do. I really really. 140 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 7: Get excited over economic news, and I think the political 141 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 7: media spends too little time on it because it is 142 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 7: very very important. 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 9: President Trump put a tariff into affect in June of 144 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 9: fifty percent not imported aluminum, and that has changed things. 145 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: Around here in a hurry. 146 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 9: If this smelter just downside of Charleston, you can see 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 9: they are moving giant vats of molten aluminum. They're gonna 148 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 9: pour them into mold and then remove the impurities. Now, 149 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 9: this smelter was working at just a fraction of its 150 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 9: capacity a few weeks ago. Now it's almost at one 151 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 9: hundred percent. New jobs also, jobs would often pay six figures. 152 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 9: And when you walk around the factory floor and talk 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 9: to the employees, you find a lot of former military 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 9: men who we're proud to be working now in this industry, 155 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 9: like Chris Murphy, who served two terms in Iraq. 156 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 10: To do this job out here, you have to be 157 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 10: physically and mentally tough, and the military obviously, you know 158 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 10: helped with that, so I'm grateful for that. 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 9: Now, critics of the tariffs say it's going to cause 160 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 9: inflation on a variety of goods, but supporters say it 161 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 9: was absolutely necessary. It's the domestic aluminum industry. If you 162 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 9: can't produce aluminum in your own country, it can be 163 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 9: execut You can say a national secure. 164 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 8: The issue if you know that Americans keep and we 165 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 8: know that American aluminum production will be successful. 166 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 2: As the President said, we don't need their aluminum, we 167 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: need our own aluminum. What a maroon. 168 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 7: Michael, forgive me if I'm repeating myself. I don't think 169 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 7: I've discussed this, but recently there was a whole Trump. 170 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Has Died. 171 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 7: Rumor from the left, and it upsets our side a 172 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 7: great deal because our side never forgets this is a game. 173 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 7: To people, they don't believe it, and they go. Our 174 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 7: side gets very upset and says, you didn't say that 175 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 7: when Biden was president. You didn't say It's as if 176 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 7: this is sad, you know. I feel like it's the 177 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 7: battered wife who she's a good, decent, honorable person and 178 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 7: she keeps thinking that if she just tries harder, he'll 179 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 7: beat her less. No he's a monster. He's not beating 180 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 7: you because you're a bad person. He's beating you because 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 7: he's a bad person. And you can't fix him. Well, 182 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 7: you can't fix the other side. So if you think, 183 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 7: if you struggle with the idea of how can they 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 7: say Trump's dead because he hasn't been seen in a 185 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 7: couple of days and they never asked a question about Biden, 186 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 7: you keep thinking that if you could just point out 187 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 7: that fact, they would go, oh, you know what, you're right, 188 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 7: I won't say that. 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: Trump's dead anymore. That's wrong of me. 190 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 7: That's never going to happen because they never said Trump 191 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 7: was dead because they wondered if he was dead. They 192 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: hoped for it. Tim Waltz was clear about that. But 193 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 7: in fact, let's play that. This is clip number four ten. 194 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 7: Tim wats basically too clever by half with his little 195 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 7: cuts comment that you know he hopes Trump dies. 196 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: You get up in the morning and you doom scroll 197 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: through things. And although I will say this, the last 198 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: few days. 199 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 7: You woke up thinking there might be news, just saying 200 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 7: just saying there will be news sometimes just so you 201 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 7: know there will be news. This is a president that 202 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 7: got shot in the head. This is a president. In fact, 203 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 7: that goofball that was at mar A Lago with a 204 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 7: gun through the through the fence. If they hadn't shot 205 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 7: over there at him, he would have shot the president 206 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 7: between the fifth and sixth holes. He was playing fifth 207 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 7: and sixth hole. He was playing golf with Steve Whitcoff. 208 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 7: But they need to stop this hole. You know, we 209 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 7: hope the president is killed, calling for his murder. Remember 210 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 7: Kathy Griffin did the head hanging off with the blood dripping. 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: They need to stop. 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 7: But I will tell you this, if that violence turns 213 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 7: around on them, won't you won't see me feeling sorry 214 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: for him. 215 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: You will not. That's all I'm gonna say about that. 216 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 7: You need to remember that whatever they say is a lie, 217 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 7: and you don't need to get upset about it because 218 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 7: they're not saying it because they believe it. They're saying 219 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 7: it because they want to distract. They don't like things going. Well, 220 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 7: you were back when you were in school, and let's 221 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 7: say you started dating Julie and there was another guy 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 7: in your school named Trevor, and Trevor liked Julie, and 223 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 7: Trevor didn't like that you and Julie were going to homecoming. 224 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 7: So Trevor started telling people that you were talking bad 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: about Julie behind her back and that maybe you had 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 7: kissed Stacy. And the rumor got around and you're going, man, 227 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 7: I didn't I didn't kiss Stacy. But the rumor, the 228 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 7: more times it's told, the more it picks up steam, 229 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 7: And before you know it, Julie is angry at you. 230 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 7: Trevor's over there thinking, if i'd get him out of 231 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 7: the way, I can step in on Julie. 232 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: Trevor. Never thought you cheated on Julie. Trevor. We didn't 233 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: have Trevors at my school. That was kind of a 234 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: rich people named. 235 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 7: But Trevor is throwing that in there to gunk up 236 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 7: the works between you and Julie. Well, the Democrats are 237 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 7: making up lies to gunk up the works in this 238 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 7: country because chaos and disorder are their recipe for power. 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: The more messed up and. 240 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 7: Mucked up things are in this country, the more they 241 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 7: are desperately needed. With the solution for reform to fix it, 242 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 7: you shatter capitalism and you replace it in your image 243 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 7: with the cult of socialism. 244 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 4: Here is. 245 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 7: President Trump talking about the viral media speculation. Well, Peter 246 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 7: Doocey's going to ask him the question. But here's President 247 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 7: Trump talking about it. 248 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 11: Completely different, but out of maybe viral social media trend 249 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 11: over the weekend. 250 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: How did you find out. 251 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: Over the weekend that you were dead? 252 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: Do you see that people didn't see it for a 253 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: couple of days. 254 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 11: One point three million user engagements as of Saturday morning 255 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 11: about your word to minds? 256 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: Really, you know, I have heard it's sort of crazy. 257 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 6: But last week I did numerous news conferences, all successful, 258 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 6: they went very well, like this is going very well, 259 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 6: and then I didn't do any for two days, and 260 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 6: they said there must be something wrong with him. 261 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: Biden wouldn't do him for months. 262 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: You wouldn't see him, and nobody ever said there was 263 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 6: ever anything wrong with him, and we know he wasn't 264 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 6: in the. 265 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: Greatest of shape. No, I heard that. I get reports, 266 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: And here is one example. 267 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 7: Jim Pisaki, as President Trump would say, a very nasty, 268 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 7: nasty woman is woman who was who worked for Obama 269 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 7: and Biden, the halo back girl, the circle back girl. 270 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 7: This is a really really dark underbelly of American politics 271 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 7: right there here. This is a person who believes nothing 272 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 7: of what she says, she just wants her side and 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 7: her personally to attain power, and she let her own 274 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 7: mother die in order to do that. These are soulless, heartless, 275 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 7: evil people. I believe that of Jenisaki as much or 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 7: more than any single Democrat. So when she says something 277 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: like this, she doesn't mean it, she doesn't believe it 278 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 7: to be true. She is purely and simply trying to 279 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 7: cause chaos, disorder, trying to take Trump off this game, 280 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 7: trying to cause him to have to respond to whether 281 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 7: he's dead or not, so that he can't shoot the 282 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 7: cartel boats in the National Guardian to stop crime and 283 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 7: solve all the other problems. Because she doesn't want the 284 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 7: problem solved, she wants him distract it, and so that's 285 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 7: why she makes statements like this. 286 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 12: Now, just to be clear, we went and there's a 287 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 12: very quick span there. We went from Trump's singing he 288 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 12: hadn't heard about the rumors of his death through Trump's 289 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 12: thing he did hear about them from reports. So then 290 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 12: back to Trump's saying he hadn't heard anything about any 291 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 12: of it, in the span of approximately sixty. 292 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: Seconds in the Oval Office today. I really can't make 293 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: this stuff up. Sometimes. 294 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 13: And look, we may never know why Donald Trump's suddenly 295 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 13: spent a week hiding entirely from the American public, but 296 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 13: you don't actually need baseless online conspiracies to explain why 297 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 13: he might not want to show his face. 298 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 5: And right now we're going to add a little bit 299 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: about these or houses I know all about. 300 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: Ramon wants to know what around the world is. 301 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 14: Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, honkey riders, hooskerdoes, Whosker 302 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 14: don'ts nips and dazers, whether without the scooter. 303 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: Stick or one single whisling kitty. 304 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Jason, let's talk. 305 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 7: About immigration for a moment, shall we? First of all, 306 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 7: everything we most need to talk about, folks are frightened 307 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 7: to talk about. And I'm gonna tall something that's not 308 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 7: an accident, that's not an accident. Imagine, for instance, let 309 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 7: me give you an analogy. Let's say a guy is 310 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 7: abusing his wife. Happens way more than he should. He 311 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 7: is abusing his wife, and somehow he manages to make 312 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 7: it the case that if she ever mentions his abuse, 313 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 7: she's a really bad person. So she's scared to ever 314 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 7: bring it up. And he convinces her of that, and 315 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 7: whoever she talks to about it tells her she's a 316 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 7: bad person for speaking of his abuse. 317 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: Right. 318 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 7: Or Let's say that the CEO of the company is 319 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 7: stealing the company blind and the employees aren't getting their 320 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 7: paychecks and things are getting bad, and the CEO manages 321 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 7: to make it such. 322 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: It's not an easy thing to do. 323 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 7: It takes a lot of work, but he manages to 324 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 7: make it such that if you are the whistleblower, you 325 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 7: are a very bad person and you should be judged 326 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 7: and canceled because you are a dark soul. You're basically hitler. 327 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 7: You're basically hitler, and so you don't do it. So 328 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 7: we need to talk about some tough subjects, and too 329 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 7: many people are afraid to do that, even in public life. 330 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: I'd like to. 331 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 7: Think you see our show as a place we do 332 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 7: that not for the sake of intentionally provoking. That's not 333 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 7: the case. I do realize that some of what I 334 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 7: say is provocative. There are black listeners who will email 335 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 7: me and say, you know, Mike, one of the things 336 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 7: that upsets me is when people call you a racist, 337 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 7: You're not a racist, And I say, well, thank you, 338 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 7: But you don't get to decide if I'm a racist. 339 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 7: And they say, I know, but it makes me mad 340 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 7: when they say that, and I say, listen, they don't 341 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 7: call me a racist because they think I am one. 342 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 7: They call me a racist because that's how you silence somebody. See, 343 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 7: that's how you do that. So let's talk about immigration, 344 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 7: illegal immigration. Let's talk about replacement theory. Let's talk about 345 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 7: the changing of nations in their population by all sorts 346 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 7: of means until you reach the point that it can't 347 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 7: be changed back. Let's talk about Christendom, the nations that 348 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 7: were predominantly Christian nations, and what is happening to those people. 349 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 7: Increase violence, increase in rape, increasing the number of people 350 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 7: from migrant communities who are now self selecting their own 351 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 7: people in positions. And the problem is the guilt ridden 352 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 7: white liberal of Europe is afraid to stop it. They 353 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 7: are empowering it, and it will be their own undoing. 354 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 7: And we're seeing that already. Here is Elon Musk talking 355 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 7: about just that the. 356 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 11: Mass immigration is insane and will lead to the destruction 357 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 11: of any country that allows unfettered mass immigration. The country 358 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 11: will simply cease to exist. At the end of the day, 359 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 11: it is a number's game, a number situation. If there 360 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 11: are eight billion people in the world, and let's say 361 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 11: you're a country of you know, fifty million, sixty million, 362 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 11: or you know, for a medium sized country, but even 363 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 11: for a country like the United States, which is three 364 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 11: hundred and fifty million, given that there are eight billion 365 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 11: people in the world, it only takes a few percent 366 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 11: of the rest of the world to move to the 367 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 11: country to where it is no longer that country. A 368 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 11: country is not its geography. A country is its people. 369 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 11: Next time, some fundamental concept that is really obvious. 370 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: Can I speak now? Elon next? 371 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 7: I'm going to play an audio clip is a little longer, 372 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 7: it's almost four minutes long. You don't have to agree 373 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 7: with it, but we should talk openly. We shouldn't be 374 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 7: afraid to discuss things. This is Friar Brendan Kilcoin who 375 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 7: says if it was up to him, he would only 376 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 7: permit Christian immigration into Europe and Ireland. 377 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: You turn up peer and then it's manished, you're looked after, 378 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: instead of being promptly sent back where you came from 379 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: and tool to apply by illegal to come into the country. 380 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Could we not be making a better job of this. 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: I should we not be firmer in making sure that 382 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: people who are undesirable or shouldn't be here or sent back. 383 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: It is causing a awful lot of unrest. It's causing 384 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: a awful lot of trouble across Europe. Germany has already 385 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: admitted or German politicians, some very distinguished German politicians, have 386 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: already admitted that they've made very serious mistakes in this area. 387 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: Yet Ireland seems to trip th on no of anti immigration. 388 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: I am in favor of what I would openly call 389 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: a discriminatory immigration, and I mean discrimination in a positive 390 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: constructive sense. Now, if it were up to me, I 391 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: would only permit Christian immigration into Europe because. 392 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 15: Europe's hold back ground and history has been shaped by Christianity. Yeah, 393 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 15: I would only permit Christian immigration into Ireland. 394 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I think that that would I think you can justify 395 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: that on any number of grounds, only Christian immigration. But 396 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: that's not being done. People from a certain socioeconomic background 397 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: have noticed that they're being shafted, and even if they're not, 398 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: they seem to be very clear that they are. That's 399 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: a problem, that is a political problem, as well as 400 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: everything else. So I think the government should be a 401 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: lot more worried about this than they are. And they're 402 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: not going to solve it by staying awake at night 403 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: because there might be a far right boogeyman hiding under 404 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: the bed. But what's very clear is that an awful 405 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: lot of people, very many of them from the working class, 406 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: seem to feel enormously threatened, and most of those seem 407 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: to be perfectly decent people. Now you must ask why 408 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: perfectly decent, affable, amiable people are suddenly frightened and worried 409 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: because they're being storred up by the far right. 410 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: That's too simplistic, that's far too simplastic. 411 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: It's because they can see demonstrable evidence. 412 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: Of a problem. 413 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: The country's being crammed, and furthermore, it's being crammed with 414 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: people who simply do not have any sympathy with the 415 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: country or its culture. Now, I would argue only Christians, 416 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: and many of you probably won't agree with me. I 417 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: don't know, but whatever you argue that people coming in 418 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: should at least some be able to dovetail intellectually, culturally, 419 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: emotionally with the society that exists here. Some minimal extent, 420 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: and that minimum is substantial. Now we have a problem here, okay, 421 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: and all these parades, with all these tricolors, which are 422 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: regarded with so much contempt by the authorities, you'd better 423 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: not get over yourselves. You better start paying close attention 424 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: to this. I'll tell you all that's wanting in this situation, 425 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened yet, is the emergence of a 426 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: charismatic leader. And if that happens, I would strongly advise 427 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: the mainstream political parties, the so called legacy parties, to 428 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: grip both sides of the. 429 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: Armchair and pour themselves resticulously. 430 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 11: I'm not sure what your question was with some Michael. 431 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: Berrish, I lost the plot somewhere, you did. 432 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 7: Two of my great influences are are not from the 433 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 7: world of politics per se. They are from the warl 434 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 7: world of economics. If we had more folks who had 435 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 7: studied economics making policy in this country, we'd been a 436 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 7: lot better position. It's Milton Friedman and his great Milton Friedman. 437 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: Well, I guess you could say. 438 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: His great protege, Thomas soul tells the story of being 439 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 7: a student at the esteemed very well respected Chicago School 440 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 7: of Economics, and he talks about. 441 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: That's not the Chicago School. It's the Chicago School. 442 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 16: As it came to be known as the University of Chicago. 443 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 16: It didn't sound right when it came off my head. 444 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 16: Milken came off my lips. Milton Friedman taught there for 445 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 16: many years, from mid forties, right after World War Two 446 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 16: to the mid seventies, thirty years, I believe, thirty something years. 447 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 16: And he had a student named Thomas Sol. And Thomas 448 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 16: Sol ends up parenting a lot of the great theories of. 449 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 7: Milton Friedman. And so I just assumed that he just 450 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 7: directly opened his mind and opened Thomas Ole's mind and 451 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 7: leaned over and dumped it down in there. But that's 452 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 7: not how it worked at all. Thomas Ol tells the 453 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 7: story in his own writings that he studied under Milton Friedman, 454 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 7: but he did not leave a classical economist. In fact, 455 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 7: he left still quite the liberal. And he went to 456 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 7: I believe it was the Department of Labor, it was, 457 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 7: and they were working on minimum wage, and he was 458 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 7: an analyst, and so they're preaching minimum wage, minimum wage, 459 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 7: we've got to increase the minimum wage, and his research 460 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 7: was showing him that when you increased the minimum wage, 461 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 7: you were actually hurting the workers, because what employers started 462 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 7: doing was finding ways to do away with jobs. Anything 463 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 7: that could be mechanized should and any job that wasn't 464 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 7: absolutely necessary, cut it because it's costing us more money. 465 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 7: And so his data revealed very clearly raising the minimum 466 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 7: wage hurt the worker. So he brings it to his 467 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 7: boss and the boss says, oh, no, no, no, we 468 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 7: put that away. 469 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Do not. 470 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: We don't want that. 471 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 7: And he said, but if we continue to push for 472 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 7: the increase of the minimum wage, which he was a 473 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 7: big believer in before doing the research, we're going to. 474 00:27:53,760 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: Hurt the American worker. And his boss said, so this 475 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: is our campaign slogan. 476 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 7: This is what we're doing. If we don't help the worker, 477 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 7: that's okay. This is what we're committed to as a policy. 478 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 7: And that's when Soul started really looking at the world 479 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 7: differently and came to be one of the great thinkers, writers, 480 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 7: economists in American history. I mean, it's really incredible, and 481 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 7: he happens to be black. If we so desperately need 482 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 7: to extol the virtues of some black people to show 483 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 7: other black people that Hey, you can do this. We 484 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 7: ought to be talking about Clarence Thomas and Thomas Soul. 485 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 7: So let's start with Thomas Soul, going back to twenty eighteen, 486 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 7: a little over a year into the Trump presidency that 487 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 7: started in twenty seventeen. Of course, he's elected in sixteen, 488 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 7: but starts in twenty seventeen, a little over a year 489 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 7: after his presidency has begun. This is Thomas Sole talking 490 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 7: about why he changed his mind about Donald Trump. 491 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 17: This is the mandatory subject Donald Trump. During the presidential campaign, 492 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 17: you wrote a column. This is when you still had 493 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 17: your column that appeared under the headline choose Trump, He'd 494 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 17: be easier to impeach, and you wrote that voters faced 495 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 17: a choice between I'm quoting you two out of control people, 496 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 17: one of whom is going to be president. And you said, 497 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 17: since Hillary Clinton would be the first woman chief executive, 498 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 17: she'd be very difficult to impeach. 499 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: But Trump would be easier to kick out. So vote 500 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: for Trump. 501 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 17: Now that he's been in office for a year. 502 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: What do you make of him? 503 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 14: Well, it's interesting, Oh gosh, you know, let me say that. 504 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 14: Just recently, Walter Williams sent me a video of Donald 505 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 14: Trump in his mid thirties being interviewed, and so I've 506 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 14: had to back off on one of the things I've said, 507 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 14: which is that Trump is someone who as simply never 508 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 14: grown up. He was very grown up in his mid 509 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 14: thirties speaking of retrogression. And it's scary because how many 510 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 14: people are more mature in their mid thirties than they 511 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 14: are at age seventy? All right, and given the trend line, 512 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 14: how optimistic should we be about his becoming more grown 513 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 14: up as time goes on? 514 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: All right? All right? 515 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 14: In terms of the people he put surrounding himself with, 516 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 14: I think on the whole they are are better bunch 517 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 14: than either of the last two presidents had. So he 518 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 14: has very good people. I think that Jim mattis at 519 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 14: sech defense. Yeah, but other people are around him, and 520 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 14: their question is is he going to listen to them? 521 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: All right? 522 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 17: Let me play you a brief excerpt of Donald Trump himself. 523 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 17: This is from the State of the Union address this 524 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 17: past January. 525 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 4: This will be my first time. 526 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: To get something I'm very proud of. 527 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 6: African American unemployment stands at the lowest rate ever recorded. 528 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 17: Okay, oh my, he produces maybe the statistic isn't quite right. 529 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: It is. 530 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 17: And there you see a shot you see Republicans standing 531 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 17: and applauding, and there you see a shot of Democrats 532 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 17: who are sitting on their hands, including many members of 533 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 17: the Black Caucus in Congress. 534 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 4: What do you make of that. 535 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 14: That, as with so many other groups around the world, 536 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 14: the leaders of groups of the lagging are often themselves. 537 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 14: That one of the biggest handicaps of those groups because 538 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 14: they have to depict the problems in ways it will 539 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 14: allow them to play the role of rescuers, and so 540 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 14: there'll be no talk about how you can do this 541 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 14: or that for yourself. They'll be talking about what we 542 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 14: can get them to deliver for you. And usually that's 543 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 14: a lot of words and things that have bad effects. 544 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 14: And that's true not only with blocks in the United States. 545 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 14: It's true of people in the lower income people in England. 546 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 7: And here is Thomas Soul talking about a very important 547 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 7: issue that the academic world is full of people who 548 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 7: don't think America is a great country. And when you 549 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 7: understand that these people hate America, it begins to make 550 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 7: a lot more sense. 551 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 14: But I think what you see in the most clearly. 552 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 4: I think in the academic world. 553 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 14: Are people who don't think that this country is a 554 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 14: great country. One example of a colleague of mine who 555 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 14: teaches at Harvard after nine to eleven put an American 556 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 14: flag on his car, and his colleague said, what is 557 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 14: that for. 558 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 4: When I visited Berkeley. 559 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 14: In the aftermath of nine to eleven, mine, then there were, 560 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 14: you know, flags everywhere. I did not see one flag 561 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 14: on at Berkeley campus, on any of those expensive houses, 562 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 14: you know. When as I was coming back from Berkeley, 563 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 14: the first American flag I saw was in a low 564 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 14: income black. 565 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 4: Neighborhood in Elkland. 566 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 14: Uh. These are people who consider themselves citizens of the 567 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 14: world and that the rest of us are so lucky 568 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 14: to have the bear to change Americas. 569 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: Nice night for doing the thank you, and good night.