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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hell.

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Speaker 2: That for me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard

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Speaker 2: so many players say, well, I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for a day? Eat a steak?

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woo? And no them and tie Dan Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. Time to eat some of the week two leftovers,

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Speaker 1: hopefully still good in the fridge after forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: But we have much college football to discuss today, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? Are you good with like a sniff test?

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Speaker 2: Or you just go for it with the leftovers?

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Speaker 1: Usually go sniff test. If I'm still uncertain, I go

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Speaker 1: Google dot com okay, And if I'm still uncertain, then

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Speaker 1: we just chuck it fair.

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Speaker 2: That's reasonable. Yeah, we hate food. We're anti food waste.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were going to open up the show

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Speaker 2: saying time to eat those words, because you could create

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Speaker 2: a mixtape about everything I was wrong about going into

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Speaker 2: week two and it would last a significant amount of time.

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Speaker 2: Like I think Georgia Tech would run all over Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: I think k Tuck he's gonna comfortably beat South Carolina,

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Speaker 2: like I was wrong about so many specific things. I

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Speaker 2: think I even like I tossed you an opportunity. We

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Speaker 2: can go back and listen to the tape. I tossed

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Speaker 2: you an opportunity like, hey, anything interesting about like NIU

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. And you're just like ah, like you threw

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Speaker 2: previewed everything we thought worthy of previewing. I asked you

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Speaker 2: about that is like, is there anything interesting there? And

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Speaker 2: I you Notre Dame and you was like eh, I was,

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Speaker 2: And that was it. I was wrong about a lot

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Speaker 2: of things.

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Speaker 1: Well we both were, and it is just sort of

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Speaker 1: the reason for the season here. Yeah, as college football

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Speaker 1: verballers dot com just dropped a new Verballer Top twelve poll.

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Speaker 1: And here is what this looks like. Georgia, Texas, Ohio

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Speaker 1: State one, two, three, No huge surprises there all, Miss Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee a contingent now of three SEC teams four through six.

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Speaker 1: We've got Miami, Miszoo, and Penn State as the next three,

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Speaker 1: and then to round this thing out, USC, Oregon and Utah. Notably,

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame Michigan no longer in the top twelve, not

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Speaker 1: what they saw in week two. Right, Penn States one

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Speaker 1: The two teams that would be the next in in

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Speaker 1: We've got very similar narratives there. Right, the playoff expectation

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Speaker 2: As we start this in a very selfish way talking

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Speaker 1: It is still crazy early and I have many more

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Speaker 1: has done for many years now. He's got Colorado projected

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Speaker 1: to lose its next nine games, and most of those

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Speaker 1: damn by double digits.

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Speaker 2: Colorado State's supposed to be all that good this year.

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Speaker 1: No, And that's kind of the point. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: the point, all right, Borderline Bowl team. You would think,

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Speaker 1: based on some of those other numbers that I threw out,

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Speaker 1: that Colorado would be a bigger favorite, yeah, going into

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Speaker 1: this game. But they're not. And I think that says something.

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Speaker 1: If you've watched Colorado at all through two weeks, they

442
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Speaker 1: absolutely cannot run the football. They're kind of not even trying.

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Speaker 1: They cannot stop the pass. That's not anything new from

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Speaker 1: last year. They just can't. They cannot do it. They

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Speaker 1: are near the bottom. If you look at our spreadsheets,

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Speaker 1: it's deep red on both sides of that not good.

447
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: And then in terms of culture, you just you continually

448
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,479
Speaker 1: have these weird cultural things that pop up vibes are

449
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: not great. The latest one now was this report out

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Speaker 1: of Denver. I think it was a Denver radio station.

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Speaker 1: My apologies for not giving proper attribution, but there's this

452
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Speaker 1: report that Dion's not letting the band play the Colorado

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Speaker 1: fight song after a touchdown because instead they need to

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Speaker 1: play Shador's rap song. Sure, little things like this, little

455
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Speaker 1: things like this that build up. If suddenly the worm

456
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Speaker 1: turns and the optimism is not there the way it

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Speaker 1: was a year ago, this is how things turn acrimonious

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Speaker 1: in a hurry. And if in fact Colorado has the

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Speaker 1: remainder of a season the way that Bill's projecting, I

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Speaker 1: just don't know which way this thing goes. I think

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Speaker 1: all kinds of weirdness are on the table, and I'm

462
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Speaker 1: not rooting for it, but I'm this is a close

463
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Speaker 1: game a year ago, Dan, this is a quilt is

464
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Speaker 1: an overtime game a year ago. I'm just saying, bell

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Speaker 1: Weather of the week is this Colorado Colorado State game?

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Speaker 1: A lot could change from this point forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I also wonder that, like we're overreacting

468
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Speaker 2: in week two and it just to me we do

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Speaker 2: this a lot where the vibes seem bad for a

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Speaker 2: lot of different teams a couple weeks into the season,

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Speaker 2: and I include everybody, include the worst vibes all the

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Speaker 2: way to the best vibes. Right, I don't know who

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Speaker 2: has the worst like Power Conference vibes right now. If

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Speaker 2: it's Florida State, you know, perhaps, But there's time. There

475
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Speaker 2: are bye weeks, there are adjustments that are scheme shifts,

476
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Speaker 2: there are pow wows, there are players only meetings, there

477
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Speaker 2: are fired coordinators. Right. A lot happens over the course

478
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Speaker 2: of these like three or four short months. And so

479
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: you're right to say that, you know, Colorado State isn't

480
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Speaker 2: some huge threat to a lot of teams, and that

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Speaker 2: might be a but you got bell Weather for the

482
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Speaker 2: Buffalo's but thank you. But there's time. There's absolutely time.

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Speaker 2: And we've seen, you know, teams that start out poorly

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Speaker 2: improve over the course of the back half of the

485
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Speaker 2: schedule or when you know they have an opportunity to

486
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Speaker 2: build some confidence. And we've also seen teams just absolutely

487
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Speaker 2: spiral when things go wrong.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm afraid of. That's totally afraid of,

489
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Speaker 1: because if you watch that Nebraska game, it felt like

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Speaker 1: they quit in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: Defense played well in the second half, well enough got

492
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Speaker 2: stops and Dion right, Dion mentioned that at halftime he

493
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Speaker 2: actually thought that defense played fairly well.

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Speaker 1: Nebraska didn't score in the second half, No, so maybe

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Speaker 1: there is some merit to that. It just feels to

496
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Speaker 1: me like much of what you're describing, if there's going

497
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Speaker 1: to be any kind of turnaround story that needs to

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Speaker 1: come from within, it's not a scheme thing. Might not

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Speaker 1: even be a talent thing at this point, right, It's

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Speaker 1: a leadership thing and it's a culture thing. And I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure either of those are in place of Colorado

502
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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a This isn't just specific to Colorado.

504
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Speaker 2: This can be specific to any disappointing team, right There

505
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Speaker 2: are a lot of teams out there who have looked

506
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Speaker 2: to the portal for a quartererback, who have looked to

507
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Speaker 2: the portal to plug in obvious glaring weaknesses on a roster,

508
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Speaker 2: on a too deep whatever, that the best teams are

509
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Speaker 2: still going to struggle at the onset, or good teams

510
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Speaker 2: are going to struggle at the onset as they get

511
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Speaker 2: everybody in, as they deal with figuring out, you know,

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Speaker 2: who who is this, who's not this? Because they haven't

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Speaker 2: had them in camp for three years, right, they don't

514
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Speaker 2: have a sense for them. And so whether it's Florida

515
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Speaker 2: State hitting on a bunch of transfers but perhaps not

516
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Speaker 2: hitting on some transfers, or Oregon or Notre Dame or whoever,

517
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Speaker 2: right that we have teams where coaches just aren't familiar

518
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Speaker 2: with their rosters like they used to be, so they're

519
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Speaker 2: making decisions with not as much data, with not as

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Speaker 2: much time seeing cleats on grass. And so I wonder

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Speaker 2: if you know, Notre Dame is going to look completely different,

522
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Speaker 2: or Florida State will look completely different, and maybe it's

523
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Speaker 2: a quarterback change, right, Or Florida will look completely different

524
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Speaker 2: with DJ Lagway, or Oregon will look different with Dylan

525
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Speaker 2: Gabriel come mid October, or any of these teams that

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Speaker 2: you know, we're seeing a lot of teams that have

527
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Speaker 2: had quarterbacks and systems for a while. This isn't a

528
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Speaker 2: new thing within college football, but it's new when we

529
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Speaker 2: have this much movement. That, yeah, of course Old miss

530
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Speaker 2: is going to look strong early because Jackson Dart's been

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Speaker 2: there forever now, right that like he's had the experience there,

532
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Speaker 2: and that there are just going to be certain teams

533
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Speaker 2: that aren't aren't the full butterfly are still in like

534
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Speaker 2: the chrysalis heading into September October, and coaches are just

535
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out what they do and don't have

536
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Speaker 2: on the fly. And so Colorado certainly fits that, as

537
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Speaker 2: they've tried to improve the offensive line for two years

538
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: now to very little avail, and that's a very difficult

539
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Speaker 2: position group to fix via the portal, as we've seen

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Speaker 2: over the years. But I don't know. I just think

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Speaker 2: that like we're seeing some early results that might not

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Speaker 2: be indicative of where teams are later on. That's I

543
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Speaker 2: think exacerbated by the chaotic nature of rosters. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to go around on college football real quick.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out a handful of teams and

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Speaker 1: I want you to give me a vibe check, please,

547
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I want you to give me a vibe check. We're

548
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Speaker 1: also going to preview some of these later week games,

549
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Speaker 1: these weekday games on Thursday and Friday, will do that shortly.

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00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: I also do have some more notre dame thoughts to

551
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: get off my chest, as well as kind of a

552
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Speaker 1: bigger look ahead at what is to come here in

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Speaker 1: week three. Okay, well, let me start here with some

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Speaker 1: of these teams that we have not discussed I think

555
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Speaker 1: nearly as much as we would have liked. Please let's

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Speaker 1: start in the big twelve. Let's talk about TCU. Oh,

557
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say Texas Tech because

558
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: vibes are down. Vibes are down at Texas Tech. But yeah, okay,

559
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Speaker 1: not to put you on the spot, but TCU beat

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Speaker 1: Stanford by seven in week one, throttled the school known

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Speaker 1: as Long Island forty five to nil in week two.

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Speaker 1: This week a really big game coming up there at

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Speaker 1: home night game on Fox against UCF. How are vibes

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Speaker 1: at TCU.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Stanford win is nice, it's on the road.

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Speaker 2: The defense stepped up at times, especially against the pass,

567
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Speaker 2: and Stanford through it well. Last week. I still think TBD,

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Speaker 2: we need to see it against an opponent with I

569
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Speaker 2: think a more complete heartbeat than Stanford, all due respect

570
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: to the cardinal but TBD not bad, right, and that's fine,

571
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: that's a win. How are the vibes that UCLA down

572
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: down at the moment?

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Speaker 1: Do we know any vibes because this week, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Indiana game against Indiana America's team.

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Speaker 2: On NBC Primetime. I believe, yes, sir, is that in

576
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Speaker 2: Bloomington or in Pasadena?

577
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: I believe this game's in Pasadena.

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Speaker 2: UCLA vibes are probably pretty low right now because of

579
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Speaker 2: the game against Hawaii coupled with high vibes across town

580
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: at USC.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen points against Hawaii in the Islands, was.

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Speaker 2: It thirteen sixteen?

583
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Speaker 1: Won six sixteen to thirteen on the Islands in their

584
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Speaker 1: first game. Indiana vibes got to be strong.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, but who is what FIU and Western Illinois.

586
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Speaker 1: Still seventy seven points against Western Illinois, Dan, I agree,

587
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: you'll take those seventy seven points. Of course, Elsewhere in

588
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, like Rutgers vibes are really strong right now. Definitely,

589
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: they look terrific. Minnesota vibes are probably way better than

590
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: they were a week ago. After that UNC game, especially

591
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: because they actually generated some downfield passing last week Minnesota

592
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Speaker 1: Colon built for the FCS. Stop it, well, stop it.

593
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 2: I mean they turned to the FCS for help so

594
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: they can beat FCS teams.

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Speaker 1: What about what about Wisconsin?

596
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I think vibes are sluggish and down right now.

597
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Speaker 1: How do you think vibes are right now? If you

598
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Speaker 1: are an Auburn fan.

599
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 2: Auburn's interesting because I think the off field vibes via

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00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: recruiting are pretty high, that there's hope for whatever, Like

601
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze at Auburn two point zero is but I

602
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: think they I think Auburn people figured they'd be farther

603
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: further into two point zero to start out the year,

604
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Speaker 2: and losing to calum that very specific way, given the turnovers,

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Speaker 2: given it was at home, given Cal's own recent struggles

606
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: with you know, losing coordinators and players, and like, I

607
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: think vibes are down right now at Auburn, but a

608
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: little bit higher via recruiting.

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear from Oklahoma fans to get

610
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: a vibe check Oh, okay on that program because forty

611
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: eight point win first game of the year against Temple,

612
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Speaker 1: a thin win that required defense against Houston. It's not

613
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Speaker 1: a good Houston team. This week Tulane comes into town.

614
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Speaker 1: That's followed by Tennessee, by a road game at Auburn,

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Speaker 1: then Texas, than South Carolina, then Old Miss. There's still

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Speaker 1: Miszoo and Alabama and LSU still on the schedule. We

617
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: always knew the schedule was going to be murder. It

618
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: was really a question of, all right, how does this

619
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Speaker 1: offense look now with Jackson or Arnold running the show?

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Speaker 1: How does a defense look?

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Speaker 2: So far?

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Speaker 1: The defense has I think acquitted itself pretty well, but

623
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Speaker 1: it is only going to get harder from this point forward.

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Speaker 1: The two teams that they played and one against are

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Speaker 1: among the worst that are on this entire schedule. Tulane

626
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Speaker 1: will be a test this week. Tennessee will be a

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Speaker 1: test the week after that. Yeah, I would say, so

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Speaker 1: you have to go until the first week, truly, the

629
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Speaker 1: first week of November, before you get to another gimme

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Speaker 1: in the main Black Bears. So I would like to

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Speaker 1: hear from Oklahoma people. You can text us at eight

632
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: five to five verbal three. Maybe we'll have our fembot

633
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Speaker 1: Nancy read some of those when we preview this game

634
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Speaker 1: on the Thursday episode, I'd love to get your text

635
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: messages and thoughts on that, but I have to imagine

636
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: that vibes are okay at the moment. You'd always rather

637
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: be two and oh than zero and two than one

638
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: and one. But looking at the state of this offense,

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00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: given what they've got coming up, I would say, very

640
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: very very leery about what's to come.

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00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: I'll speak for myselfie are rooting for a team that

642
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: has recently been incredible on offense and now watching a

643
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: team really struggling with little things on offense, given turnovers, inconsistencies,

644
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 2: play calling, whatever. Oklahoma fans are used to, if nothing else,

645
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 2: a number of crazy, productive, explosive offenses in the last

646
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: decade or so, and then faced with what they've had,

647
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean what they had last week specifically, but you know,

648
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Speaker 2: last year, last couple of years at times where you're

649
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: just like, I think there's a little bit of discomfort,

650
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: a little bit of shifting in seats among Oklahoma fans.

651
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: That's it looks like a TV show that has been

652
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: recast and redirected whatever a little bit too often, or

653
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: brought in a new director, a new writing stat Like,

654
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: it's just like, this isn't I don't know there's something

655
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Speaker 2: off with this show.

656
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Speaker 1: How about an Alabama.

657
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: I think we're still in a grace period for Klein

658
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: de Boorr And I don't know if you saw some

659
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: of those crowd shots, like the gifts of people swearing,

660
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: including I think it was Nick Sheridan, Excuse me if

661
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm not correct in the booth. Yeah, but like channeling

662
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of Tommy Reese in there.

663
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Speaker 1: Do your fin job.

664
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Speaker 2: Yeah that vibes in the second third quarters were real down.

665
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: But I guess once they made the right tackle change

666
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 2: or whatever, when vibes got better. There are certain elements

667
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: of the Alabama I mean, like Ryan Williams stepping in

668
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: as a freshman right.

669
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Looks ridiculous right through the roof.

670
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Right. It's it's a really great year for freshmen receiving

671
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: vibes between Clemson and Ohio State and Alabama whoever else Texas.

672
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Perhaps as the season progresses and more guys get worked in,

673
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: I think vibes are I think shoulders are a little

674
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: bit more relaxed than they might have been at halftime.

675
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. Yeah, vibes at Notre Dame.

676
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: I'll answer this question.

677
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Torch torches, pitchforks, all that kind of stuff.

678
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 1: Right, It's been a while since Sundred Dame had these

679
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of vibes. It's been a while, and we are

680
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 1: we are getting to the point now where it's like

681
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: the natives are growing restless. It is yet another situation

682
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: where Notre Dame played down to an opponent, and I

683
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: cannot tell you how immensely frustrating that is, especially given

684
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: all the talent that they've brought in over the last

685
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: couple of years now under Marcus Freeman. This was supposed

686
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: to be the year. You go out, you get Mike

687
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: Denbrock paying them all this money. You go out, you

688
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: get Riley Leonard, try to beef up the defensive line.

689
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: R j Oben, big name comes in from Duke. There

690
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: have been others. I mean, there's been this lingering question

691
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: about the line, but it's not a question you expect

692
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: to blow up in your face against a team like

693
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. And so I find that the conversation online

694
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: is going a thousand different directions. If there was optimism

695
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: or cautious optimism before, now there's any number, any garden

696
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: variety of skeptical Notre Dame opinions out there, and I

697
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: understand all of them. I have been reading as much

698
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: opinion about what went wrong as I can find. All

699
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: you need to do is watch the game to realize

700
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: they got roasted on both lines, especially the offensive line.

701
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: It was just Riley Leonard had no protection on his

702
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: backside at all. Every play, somebody was rushing, someone was

703
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: getting in there. But the best thing that I read

704
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: was from Brian driscoll Over at Irish Breakdown does a

705
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: good job writing about Notre Dame, always has, and he

706
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: talked a lot about how it felt like this Notre

707
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: Dame coaching staff is putting Riley Leonard in a box

708
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: that it doesn't belong in. Right. They're trying to turn him,

709
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: or at least it looked like they tried to turn

710
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: him into more of a game manager than the improviser

711
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: that he is that's really where he excels. And his

712
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: opinion was, and I don't disagree with this, that they

713
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of took that element away from his game in

714
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: hopes of turning him into something else, and that it

715
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: didn't work. It's all a little bit of that in

716
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: the A and M game, for sure. It was on

717
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: display against Northern Illinois. There is so much blame to

718
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: go around. Dan, we could talk about this till we're

719
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: blue in the face. I won't. We have reached the

720
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: point now where it's kind of like a circular firing squad.

721
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: And whether you're blaming Riley Leonard or blaming the offensive

722
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff, or blame me Marcus Freeman, there are no

723
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: shortage of options for you. If you're a Notre Dame

724
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: fan or even somebody watching from afar. What I would

725
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: say is this, we do not know how this twelve

726
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: team era is going to play out. I Am not

727
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: going to sit here and make the case for Notre

728
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: Dame as a playoff team. They just lost to NIU.

729
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: I said on the recap show. You lose to NIU,

730
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: that's a disqualifier in my book. Okay, but it's a

731
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: long season. There will be losses in front of Notre Dame.

732
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: Some of these teams that are on Notre Dame schedule

733
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: will be bold. Teams will be ranked by the time

734
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: they play Notre Dame. Louisville's probably a really good example

735
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, and they only drop to eighteenth. It's

736
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: only week two. We're going to have a very interesting

737
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: conversation later in the year if Notre Dame, provided Notre

738
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Dame continues to perform at or near the level that

739
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: we thought, yeah, we will have a conversation later in

740
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: this year about whether Notre Dame belongs to that twelve

741
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: team field. And again it's not me arguing for it,

742
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 1: it's just me being honest. It is going to happen.

743
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I hope people are ready for it.

744
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: You're getting a Marcus Freeman Notre Dame team, and so yeah,

745
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: they'll probably perform decently well in some bigger games.

746
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

747
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 2: I think what plagues Notre Dame is that, you know,

748
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: we're now talking about a new offensive coordinator, excuse me,

749
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: making a ton of money, bringing like hands, selecting the

750
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: quarterback of the future from a school at which Riley

751
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: Leonard was already pretty successful. When healthy Marcus Freeman recruits,

752
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: you know, it's his vision for the offense along with

753
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 2: now offensive coordinators plural, and he can't get teams up

754
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: for little games I know, plural. Now go back to

755
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: Marshall cal Stanford this year. Obviously with NIU, You're just like,

756
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I just kind of think we

757
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: are seeing note Marcus Freeman's Notre Dame at this point.

758
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: It's his roster, is his choice is for you know,

759
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: the big portal edition. Yeah, he can't seem to motivate

760
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: them enough or figure out how to build an offensive

761
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: game plan with his coordinator to score. How many do

762
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: they scored fourteen points against an.

763
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: IU scored fourteen points? You like?

764
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: It just seems like, Hey, if Notre Dame has a

765
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,479
Speaker 2: running back that they can count on to make big

766
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: plays all of the time, we win a bunch of games.

767
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: But if Jeremiah Love is an object estimate, then they won't.

768
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: This is when you see the knives come out, and

769
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: I've seen it come out. Mike oldest man crotchiest take

770
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: is that, and it's not the reason they lost. But

771
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: I've been I've been seeing a lot in the build

772
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: up to this season about how all these teams got

773
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: to come to Notre Dame Stadium and play right? Only

774
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: two true road games, and Notre Dame Stadium is such

775
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: a tough place to play. Isn't it about time that

776
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: we reheat an old take of mine that I think

777
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: I talked about back in twenty ten. I don't think

778
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Stadium is that tough of a place to play.

779
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: It's not a hornet's nest. It's not the hornet's nest

780
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: that Notre Dame fans believe it to be. It's a

781
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: cathedral for college foot it's a landmark. You should visit

782
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: it once. Sure, But if Marshall, if NI you can

783
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: go into Notre Dame Stadium and win, there's a pretty

784
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: good chance. It's just not that imposing. I went to

785
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: Penn State for four years by comparison, Notre Dame Stadium's

786
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: amateur hour, and it's just about time that we start

787
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: treating it for what it is. These teams are coming

788
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: in and winning these games. It's not as hostile an

789
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: environment as I think Notre Dame fans would like you

790
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: to believe. It just isn't sure. That's my take for

791
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: whatever it's worth.

792
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: By the way, sidebar, whoever is mixing the audio during

793
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: these Notre Dame games and pumping up those chimes and

794
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: xylophone sounds, let's bring them down back into the mix

795
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: just a lot.

796
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Don't get me started on the NBC broadcast. That's its

797
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: own podcast altogether. I could do a podcast a week

798
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: talking about the way they cover this team, the way

799
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: NBC covers college football as a whole.

800
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay, the Peacock broadcast the Oregon Boise Stay game was

801
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: not good.

802
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: No disrespect good friends of ours who work for that network. Yeah,

803
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: of course I have no beef with them, but I

804
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: have thoughts on how NBC has treated college football.

805
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I heard the Mortal Kombat theme via

806
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: xylophone times at like minus three DB's on the mixed time.

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00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: It was up there. All right, let's pick some games here,

808
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: more Zylon and time to help the weak. We got

809
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: three interesting games on Thursday and Friday featuring Big twelve teams. Yes,

810
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: and I wanted to make sure that we covered them

811
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: on this episode because the time, by the time Thursday

812
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: rolls around, we don't want to bury him at the

813
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: end and then it's already stale by the time he listens.

814
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: So let's just do it now. The Thursday game that

815
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: I have particular interest in is at seven thirty Eastern

816
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 1: on ESPN's between Arizona State and Texas State. My guys,

817
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: the bombcats of Texas State's true Arizona State favored by

818
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: one and a half points here, so this should be

819
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good football game.

820
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 2: Dan Cam Scattabou Star, this should be a pretty good

821
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: football game.

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Speaker 1: We had Cam's Yataboo who was two sixty three something

823
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: like that a week ago on the ground for Arizona State,

824
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: and then we have Texas State, who made quick work

825
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: of UTSA. Now they're hosting ASU, and I think it's

826
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: a decent matchup for them. There's a really big contrast

827
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: in this game, though, that I want people to know about,

828
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: and that is the tempo of Texas State versus the

829
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: tempo of Arizona State. Texas State plays really quick, Arizona

830
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: State plays really slow deliberately.

831
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they know they're not deep. Yeah.

832
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: And so in theory, if you're ASU, if you can

833
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: have that same level of success on the ground as

834
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: it dad a week ago, keep Texas State off the field.

835
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Speaker 1: It's a good offense for Texas State. Good offense, you

836
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: keep them off the field, you put yourself in a

837
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: position to win. I would not bet this one if

838
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: my life depended on it because I am biased here.

839
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: I love Texas State. I think Texas State is due

840
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: for a big season. I still think if I were

841
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: picking straight up, I would go ASU because of that

842
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: tempo shift. Okay, I think that favors them in this game,

843
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: despite the fact that it's on the road, despite the

844
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: fact they got plenty of their own questions. But that

845
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: would probably be my pick.

846
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,479
Speaker 2: I think so too. I think Sam Levitt's been pretty good.

847
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: We'll see long term once the schedule gets harder. I

848
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: just I don't know if I'm terrified of the Texas

849
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: State defense quite yet, especially if they're going to play

850
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: quickly and as who is going to be able to

851
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: get off the field. So I'm going asu but not

852
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: crazy confidently.

853
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: On Friday Night, another interesting game featuring a big twelve team,

854
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: and this is UNLV at Kansas. Kansas favored by a touchdown.

855
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: So Kansas loss on the road last week to Illinois

856
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: was a bad game for Jalen Daniels. He had three

857
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: picks on the whole Kansas had four turnovers if you

858
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: add in the fumble. This Kansas season is going to

859
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: be very interesting moving forward because right now they're favored

860
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: to win every game with the exception of West Virginia

861
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: in k State. But I counted five games that are

862
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: projected as one score affairs, So my sense here is

863
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: that Kansas is gonna win this one by like ten points.

864
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: They'll get back on track. They go on the road

865
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: next week against West Virginia, which you know, I'm high

866
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: West Virginia. I think that looks like a loss personally,

867
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: But we can talk about that one in due course.

868
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: But this is this is important for Kansas. This is

869
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: an important Kansas game right now that they need to

870
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: dominate in and get back on the right track because

871
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: last week was not good and UNLV is not a

872
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: bad team. They're off to a two to zero start

873
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: as well.

874
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, took it to Utah Tech.

875
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: You taught Tech maybe, or Slukamaniacs out here.

876
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, far be it for me to pick

877
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: against Luka Doncic. But I think I'm gonna go. I

878
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 2: think I'm gonna go Kansas. I think Kansas might be

879
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: a team that things aren't as bad as they appear

880
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: to be. Things aren't as good as they appear to be,

881
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: and I still think they're going to have enough firepower

882
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: on offense at home. Short week for UNLV, I mean

883
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: short week for both these teams obviously, but I'd rather

884
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: be the team at home in a short week that

885
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: still has a lot left in the tank, so I

886
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: don't think they are going to be as bad for

887
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: Kansas as they were last week for Jalen Daniels through

888
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: the air. So I still I'm banking on some upside.

889
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: There and then the big one actually eight pm on Fox.

890
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: This is one of very few ranked games this week,

891
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: number twenty, Arizona on the road at number fourteen k

892
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: State KSE date favored by seven and a half. How

893
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: do we feel about this game? Dan?

894
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel great about either one of these teams.

895
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: Neither do I with what Kansas State needed, with what

896
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: Kansas State lacks in the back end on defense, with

897
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: where Arizona hypothetically is can be should be quite strong,

898
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: which is testing teams downfield. But man, it's a different

899
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: This is not Jedfish Arizona as we saw last week. No,

900
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm willing to extend grace for everybody for both Kansas

901
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: State and their growth potential for Arizona and their growth potential.

902
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 2: So I think I'm going to go with Arizona here

903
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: in a toss up situation. I'd rather have Noah Fafida

904
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: with the game on the line right now than Avery Johnson.

905
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: I still think there are guys on both sides of

906
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: the ball for Arizona, just like I think there are

907
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: for Kansas State right now. With Kansas State struggles both

908
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: weeks to get something going on offense and dealing with

909
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: stuff in the back end, I think I'm going Arizona

910
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: buy a hair, even on the road, even in Manhattan,

911
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: even difficult place to play. I think I have Arizona hair.

912
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: That would be something. Yeah. I talked about Avery Johnson

913
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: after Week one for k State could have lost last

914
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: week against Tulane. I do think to your point from earlier,

915
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: Arizona has a nice day through the air. Yeah, Because

916
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: this is a k State secondary that you can look

917
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: at the numbers, It's been incredibly leaky thus far. They're

918
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: like bottom of Power four in terms of explosive passing

919
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: plays allowed. That to me could be the X factor

920
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: in this game. And You've got a team in Arizona

921
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: with no Fafita and Temac that know how to work

922
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: the ball down the field that hasn't gone away. Even

923
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: though it's a new coach, They're still doing that and

924
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: I think that could be a real issue for k State.

925
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: There are two under the radar stats though that I

926
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: want to call out and I think these are the

927
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: big time red flags for me and why I'm going

928
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: to go K State. The first is Arizona through two weeks.

929
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: It's early, but near the bottom of college football and

930
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: penalty yardage. That may not be a big deal against

931
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: Northern Arizona, but against a team like a K State

932
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: that's always really well coached and usually pretty disciplined, that

933
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: will come back to bite you. Against a team like

934
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: a K State agreat it always does. That is part

935
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: of K State's game plan. Yeah, forced you to make

936
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: mistakes and then take advantage of it. I don't like that.

937
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: The other thing I don't like is this is a

938
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: deep cut. Mind you. Arizona is near the bottom in

939
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: yards allowed before contact Tuanna Kina defense not coming through

940
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: before contact. That's a problem against a K State team

941
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: that has been super explosive on the ground, true, that

942
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: has been their calling cards so far. So putting a

943
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: offense like Case State against a defense like Arizona that

944
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: is just letting you basically get up the full speed

945
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: is a problem. That's why I like K State here.

946
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: I think that is the difference. I got this as

947
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: something like thirty eight twenty four favorite Case State. I

948
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: think this is a really good opportunity for Chris Climbing

949
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: to exert some level of dominance here and win this

950
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 1: one going away.

951
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: So I've gotten by fourteen, Okay, I would love to

952
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: see it just from a like learn more about a

953
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: specific team. If you know Case State can score like

954
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: that against Arizona, that answers a couple of questions. If

955
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: Avery Johnson can take a step forward along, you know

956
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: with if DJ Giddens is going off and we should

957
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 2: have a nice performance from Avery Johnson play action threat. Yeah,

958
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I'm willing to write off

959
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: a little bit of last week to like a let

960
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: down look ahead situation. Not that who to Arizona play

961
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: Week one New Mexico. Do you want to say, you

962
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: know all the TMAC hype and you know Arizona sort

963
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: of waltzing into the next week knowing it's Northern Arizona

964
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: not necessarily Case State, and maybe they're looking ahead a

965
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 2: little bit like I think it could be an early

966
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 2: season version of that. But I don't love those stats

967
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: that you know, Duyna Kina, who hasn't coordinated a defense.

968
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if I know he was an offensive

969
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 2: coordinator a long time ago for Arizona, but I don't

970
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: think he was in high demand to call somebody else's

971
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: defense this year. So that worries me a little bit

972
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: about Arizona and taking a step back on defense and

973
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: in running the ball and in just a general offensive

974
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 2: vision under Brent Brennan. Like I just I think they

975
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think they downgraded a little bit at coach.

976
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: So you know, hopefully I'm wrong and they take a

977
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: big step up this week. But that's what it looked

978
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: like last week that they would They wouldn't have played

979
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 2: with their food under Jedfish these last couple of years

980
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 2: like they did against na.

981
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Yards before contact tells you a lot, Yes, a lot

982
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: means your defensive lines getting blown off the ball as

983
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: a starting point.

984
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: Or the guys are running the wrong way right in that.

985
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: Wrong way, that there could be a lack of coordination.

986
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: There are so many different ways that you could attribute

987
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: that stat and.

988
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 2: Those aren't against good teams.

989
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: But they're not against good teams, and that's the problem

990
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: I have with it.

991
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen, I know I'm putting myself out there right.

992
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 2: The early results have not been great for Arizona, so.

993
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: As we look ahead now in week three. Here's what

994
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: it looks like for us, Here's what it looks like

995
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, we're obviously going to do our preview

996
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: episode on Thursday morning, which everybody can get out there

997
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: on their public podcast feed. You can watch it on

998
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: Thursday at noon if you're ever so inclined. We will

999
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: of course continue doing the live week three recap Saturday

1000
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: nights Eastern Time at midnight and then Friday AM at

1001
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: nine am Eastern Time. We've got Big ten Breakfasts third

1002
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: and still Big ten Breakfast. It gets a little bit

1003
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: better each week as we add in a few of

1004
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: our own little nicknacks. Yeah, I thought last week was

1005
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: a fun one. This week's going to be even more fun.

1006
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: Did you watch it back? I know you were flying.

1007
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: I watched it back. It was great. You did a

1008
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: great job.

1009
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1010
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: We cut this ourselves. I don't know if people know that. Yeah,

1011
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: this is all you, so why you did a great

1012
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: job with that. It's out on our YouTube channel or

1013
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: just go to Big ten Breakfast dot com if you're

1014
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: interested in checking that out. Actually, I watched it back

1015
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: after the fact, after the games, and I thought our

1016
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: analysis was actually quite good. We did, okay, god Ty,

1017
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: look at us, we did okay?

1018
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Who could have imagined?

1019
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: And then what does this week mean for you? Well,

1020
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: kind of got any rivalry week, don't we.

1021
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: That's true out West especially. Yeah, we've got.

1022
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 1: The Civil War, the Platypus Cup, whatever you want to

1023
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: call it, between Oregon and Oregon State. That one's in

1024
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: the afternoon in Corvallis. Yeah, in Corvallis on Saturday. We've

1025
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: also got the Apple Cup early this year, three thirty

1026
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time on Peacock, Washington, only by four and

1027
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: a half. We've also got the Colorado Colorado State game

1028
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: that I called out earlier. We've got the Backyard Brawl

1029
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: three thirty ESPN two between West Virginia and pitt. I've

1030
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: got a hot take on that game that I'm going

1031
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: to save for Thursday. And then we've got a handful

1032
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: of other games that I think are interesting in their

1033
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: own right mentioned Indiana, UCLA, Alabama, Wisconsin, LSU, South Carolina,

1034
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: Boston College, Missoo, Memphis, Florida State, Texas A and M

1035
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: against a DJ Lagway led Florida Gators team.

1036
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 2: They're sharing time. According to Billion Napier, today we'll see.

1037
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see UCF against TCU Maryland versus Virginia. There

1038
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: are a bunch of games, even if they aren't top

1039
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: caliber battles between two ranked opponents. I think there are

1040
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: plenty of reasons for intrigue here. So we'll cover all

1041
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 1: of that in much much more on the Thursday episode

1042
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 1: that's upcoming. But I will say there is a window

1043
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: of opportunity coming up this week. I will discuss when

1044
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: you can go out and perhaps have a date. Okay,

1045
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: we're going to get away from the TV and build

1046
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: up some capital so that you can reinvest later in

1047
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: the college football season. Bear in mind that week's four

1048
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: and five looks significantly more interesting just from a ranked

1049
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 1: opponents standpoint. It looks really interesting in the Big twelve

1050
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: the next three weeks. I agree to just keep all

1051
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: that in mind, start planning ahead. That's what we're here

1052
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: for to help you do that. But that's what the

1053
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: week ahead looks like here in week three.

1054
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 2: You don't want my TEP dive on Oregon Boise State

1055
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: even more information.

1056
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: I don't have much. Do you have anything more? How

1057
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: much have you thought about this? How much have you

1058
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: read on the message boards about this? What are they

1059
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: saying on the message boards about this?

1060
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 2: I think Oregon fans just whether it's social media or

1061
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: boards or whatever, that a lot of this is self inflicted.

1062
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: That you know, the two fumbles and Dylan Gabriel, I

1063
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: think it's still sort of struggling to pick up some

1064
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: of how he should address pressure. I think a couple

1065
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: of those sacks were on him. It was an offensive

1066
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: line issues, and so it's new for Oregon. I think

1067
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 2: you have to give Boise State a good amount of

1068
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 2: credit for building the whole thing out of Ashton Genty

1069
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: and smart enough to know that Dylan Gabriel was struggling

1070
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: to pick up pressure and sort of adjust things. I

1071
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 2: don't know. I think Oregon's going to be better. They're

1072
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 2: playing uncharacteristically undisciplined on offense, and so as the offensive

1073
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: line gets healthier, they'll be better still, and Gabriel becomes

1074
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: more comfortable, they'll be better. Can he change the fact

1075
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: that he looks like he's five to five and a half.

1076
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: He cannot, And so when he has time, when he

1077
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Speaker 2: is protected, he throws as beautiful a ball in the sport,

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Speaker 2: But that's not what this sport is. So we'll see,

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Speaker 2: we'll see I have. I am still a believer that

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Speaker 2: Oregon can win double digit games, but my prediction of

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Speaker 2: them winning the national championship feels a little bit not great,

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Speaker 2: and this moment.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State feels better at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Games of Eugene. There's a lot of time

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Speaker 2: until that game. Ohio State has not played anybody. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens if they're pushed around a little bit,

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Speaker 2: if they're pushed around a little bit, when they're pushed whatever. Still,

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Speaker 2: you know it will Howard, It's not CJ. Stroud, So

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Speaker 2: I don't know O're goonill improve. But the Boise State game,

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Speaker 2: like you ditch those fumbles and it's you know, a

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Speaker 2: forty one to twenty game or something like that. But

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Speaker 2: you know that's football, and Oregon has not played to

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Speaker 1: Be a bicycle day exactly right right in solid Verbal

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Speaker 1: so you're going to get the tie spin.

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Speaker 2: Is he some like jam band spectacular? Is that what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: I think he's going out of the country actually for

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Speaker 1: a jam band. Don I don't believe for a jam band.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that is the reason for it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's possible, but you will get the ties to the

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Speaker 1: So you got that to look forward to at eight

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Speaker 2: Agree.

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Speaker 1: So I got Dan, same with that guy there, my

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