WEBVTT - Getting Open with Alexander Mattison

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. My name is Lindsay Young and I am

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<v Speaker 1>a staff writer and assistant editor here with the Minnesota Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for joining us for another episode

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<v Speaker 1>of our Getting Open series, which really focuses on all

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<v Speaker 1>things mental health. Over the past several weeks, we have

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a number of people connected to the Vikings organization,

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<v Speaker 1>from players to general manager Rick Spielman and Chief Operating

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<v Speaker 1>Officer Andrew Miller, really about their personal experiences and their

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on mental health and also their desire to break

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<v Speaker 1>down the stigma and just really normalize the conversation around

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<v Speaker 1>mental illness and the way that it affects so many

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<v Speaker 1>people in their day to day lives. Today, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited to sit down with Alexander Madison, who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>share a little bit about the way a college experience

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<v Speaker 1>has opened his eyes to the world of mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and really given him a passion to raise awareness for

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<v Speaker 1>suicide prevention. Alex you and I obviously talked earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>winter about mental health and suicide awareness. Can you just

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<v Speaker 1>explain again for us about your connection with Tyler Helenski

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<v Speaker 1>and how his passing has really impacted you. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So back in twenty seventeen. We played Washington State earlier

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<v Speaker 1>on in the season and we went into a triple

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<v Speaker 1>overtime that game and lost that game. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just it's kind of one of those unexplainable feelings

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, you just go into a game where

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<v Speaker 1>there's that much emotion poured out onto the field, there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously going to be room for an emotional connection left,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, across the field. So that's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things you see in his history unfold. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>Southern California guy, just like myself, and you know, great,

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<v Speaker 1>great athletic talent, and from you know what, the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we hear, you know, he's a great young man

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and just to hear that happened was just

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<v Speaker 1>something that it hurt deeper than what I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would have ever thought, just because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>personally know him that well. But just like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>being out there on that field and going to war

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you leave room for an emotional connection and

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<v Speaker 1>there's that respect from the other side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for sharing that. And I think when the news

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<v Speaker 1>came out that Tyler committed suicide, I think it rocked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people. And I think part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason for that is as a society, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really easy for us to have a mindset that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this person is successful, he's an athlete, if they're at

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<v Speaker 1>the pro level. You know he has money, he's physically fit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they have it all. Maybe that that tends

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<v Speaker 1>to be an easy mindset to have. He must not

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<v Speaker 1>have a worry in the world. As an athlete yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>who has witnessed goes the others experience and are now

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<v Speaker 1>at the pro level football, what would you say to that? UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely say that we're all human, whether you

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<v Speaker 1>know we play professional sports, or whether it's CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>a company, or whether you're you're not any of those. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's human and everyone has the same problems, the same

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<v Speaker 1>issues to deal with and pan out on a personal level.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, whether that's your own personal issues and

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<v Speaker 1>problems and emotions that you have to navigate through, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>that's your life, that's your story, that's your path and

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<v Speaker 1>your journey. And I think that you know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people might stick to you know, well, you play

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<v Speaker 1>football and you know you have to be this big,

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<v Speaker 1>strong man out there on the field all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you know, that doesn't always have to translate

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<v Speaker 1>to off the field. You know, we we have emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and we have things in life that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with, so um it can be taken for granted

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<v Speaker 1>just as easy as a player as it can be

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<v Speaker 1>a non professional athlete. I think that's exactly right what

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<v Speaker 1>you're just talking about, and that really leads into my

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<v Speaker 1>next question too, because I think throughout this whole series,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about the stigma right that surrounds mental illness,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially it seems to be seen at possibly an

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<v Speaker 1>even deeper level among athletics. You mentioned that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expectation to be a big, strong man on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you elaborate a little bit on that on why

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<v Speaker 1>that stigma is the way it is among athletes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that, you know, there's just there's just an

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<v Speaker 1>unknown rule that you can't show emotions that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you do, you're soft, If you you know, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>they'll tag you with the terms of not being an

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<v Speaker 1>elite athlete. Whatever it might be there your career, you're

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you've worked for. In a moment of weakness,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really supposed to be seen as weakness. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a moment of dealing with emotions and feeling emotions, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's been tagged with weakness and softness, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's obviously the opposite of what you would expect the

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<v Speaker 1>game of foot wall to be. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>just the fact that people dealing with emotions get tagged

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<v Speaker 1>with that it shouldn't be that way, especially because in

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<v Speaker 1>this world where there's so much that goes on, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, life can take you one way and then

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<v Speaker 1>take you the other way the next second. So in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I don't think that stigma is right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we all have emotions that we have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with and some people can deal with them better than others,

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<v Speaker 1>but at the end of the day, it's not healthy

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<v Speaker 1>to hold all that in. And that's where you're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of athletes coming out and expressing themselves nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>because there have been a lot lot of athletes that

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<v Speaker 1>just become over overwhelmed with so much, so many emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things, the weight of the world on their shoulders,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're just kind of forced to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it in a way that no one else can

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<v Speaker 1>see us hurting. No one else can see us filling

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<v Speaker 1>those emotions. In the previous segment of Getting Open, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Adam and Caitlin Feeling in their Feeling Foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>Really it focuses on how much mental illness in youth

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<v Speaker 1>has increased so much, and that's kind of a topic

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<v Speaker 1>that goes overlooked sometimes. So when you're talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>the tide is kind of starting to turn, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're athletes across the NFL, including your teammates. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some stories from other leagues as well of

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<v Speaker 1>these athletes who are sharing their own experiences around mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>How much of an impact do you think that can have,

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<v Speaker 1>especially on the younger generation. Oh man, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think it can be extremely impactful for especially the youth.

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<v Speaker 1>Just simply for athletes, professional athletes to use their platform

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<v Speaker 1>and share their stories and you know, promote the importance

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<v Speaker 1>of mental health. That's something that goes a long way,

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<v Speaker 1>not only for adults who are dealing with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bills and stress and all of these things, but kids

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<v Speaker 1>as well, especially during this time or doing school online,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, there's all these different things that kids

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with as far as growing up and

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<v Speaker 1>those emotions and all of those things that you go

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<v Speaker 1>through that sometimes not and anyone can just understand that

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<v Speaker 1>some adults can't really understand and put themselves in that

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<v Speaker 1>that perspective of some of these things that these kids

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<v Speaker 1>have to go through because none of us had to

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<v Speaker 1>do school online and couldn't go outside and play with

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<v Speaker 1>our friends and things like that and those types of environments.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I think that using our platform and

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<v Speaker 1>being able to share our stories is something that kids

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<v Speaker 1>can look at and anyone that's dealing with anything, they

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<v Speaker 1>can look at that and say, I'm not alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only one that has had these emotions

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<v Speaker 1>and had these feelings, and how can I get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this dark place that I'm feeling like I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>And they can look up to some of the players

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<v Speaker 1>or some of the important people in their life that

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<v Speaker 1>they look up to, and they can hear these stories

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<v Speaker 1>and relate to them, and they can find their way

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<v Speaker 1>out of that dark place. In another recent episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked with the Vikings journal manager Rick Spielman, and he

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<v Speaker 1>really emphasized the importance of mental health within the organization

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<v Speaker 1>and how much he cares about the topic and wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that that players and staff alike, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>coaches have the resources that they need. I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean to you to be part of an

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<v Speaker 1>organization that does show support for this type of topic

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<v Speaker 1>and empowers you guys to share your stories. It means

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to me. That's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I love about this organization is that they care so much.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I wouldn't I wouldn't want it to

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<v Speaker 1>be any other way. Just to know that they are

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<v Speaker 1>very supportive and the things that their players are passionate

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<v Speaker 1>about is something that is really inspiring to me and

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<v Speaker 1>definitely just helps me want to use my voice and

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<v Speaker 1>use my platform even more knowing that I have that

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<v Speaker 1>support system behind me and I you've talked about in

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<v Speaker 1>the years since Tyler's passing, you've been passionate about just

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<v Speaker 1>learning more about mental health and learning more about suicide

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<v Speaker 1>and suicide prevention. What are maybe a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>that you have learned, you know, in your own research

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<v Speaker 1>about those topics. I've dug pretty deep and just just

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<v Speaker 1>finding out a lot about the small things that I

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<v Speaker 1>can help someone turn their mental health around, and someone

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<v Speaker 1>that's not very aware of their mental health and how

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<v Speaker 1>that can creep up on you. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even realize years ago that I was in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where I noticed my mental health was was was

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<v Speaker 1>not good. I was in a place where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things were just going bad for me left and right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, why, you know, the universe feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just crushing in on me, sending home, sending

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<v Speaker 1>home money, my stipend checks and things like that to

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<v Speaker 1>help my parents, my car breaking down, losing friends, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things are just happening and happening, happening, And

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that I was trying to fix everything myself

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to get answers and solve problems with answers

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't even there. And so a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>times I realized that, you know, people can find themselves

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<v Speaker 1>trying so hard and forgetting to check on themselves, checking

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, everyone else but themselves, and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out everything without trying to really find out what

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<v Speaker 1>they can do to help their situation. And so, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different things like yoga and getting

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<v Speaker 1>the right amount of sunlight, the proper foods to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to make sure that you're feeding your

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<v Speaker 1>body with the proper nutrients and all those things they

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<v Speaker 1>all come together full circle to help your mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and help you navigate through life. So just to follow

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<v Speaker 1>up on that, were those things that you were able

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<v Speaker 1>to use for yourself when you were going through that

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<v Speaker 1>hard time or was it a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 1>a struggle, and then you kind of learned these these

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<v Speaker 1>techniques later on to maybe help you if if that

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<v Speaker 1>comes up again. So I started doing a yoga that's

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<v Speaker 1>something that the team had for us, and that that

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<v Speaker 1>helped me a lot. But really in that moment, I

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<v Speaker 1>just let go and let God and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have strong faith in God and his plan for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of where I just handed the baton

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<v Speaker 1>and cast all my burdens onto him and everything started

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<v Speaker 1>to work out for me. And then, you know, looking

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<v Speaker 1>into it deeper, that's when I started to really find

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<v Speaker 1>out how can I help myself and set myself up

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a better position so that when adversity hits,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm prepared for it and my mental health

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<v Speaker 1>is strong enough and everything's aligned to where I can

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<v Speaker 1>try and navigate through as easy as possible. And something

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<v Speaker 1>else that we've talked a lot about is support systems,

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<v Speaker 1>and you mentioned even helping to support your parents and

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<v Speaker 1>things and just kind of the hardship that that was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know how close you are with your family,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've talked a lot about that. What has a

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<v Speaker 1>support system looked like in your life, you know, whether family, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like for you? For me, I

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<v Speaker 1>have an extremely extremely strong support system my mom and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers, and then my aunt and uncle and my cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we're just a really tight knit family.

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<v Speaker 1>I was raised in the church. I was raised to

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<v Speaker 1>ignore all of the bad things going on around me.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, my parents they kept me and my

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<v Speaker 1>brothers strictly down the path of you know, school and

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<v Speaker 1>sports and just you know, trying to do the right

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<v Speaker 1>things and stay out of the troubles. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I give all credits to them for for raising me

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I am, and my family just being

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<v Speaker 1>so tight and everyone just supporting whatever it is that

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do, whatever it is that my brother

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do, whatever it is that my cousin wants

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<v Speaker 1>to do, whatever it is that anyone in our family

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<v Speaker 1>wants to do or one hundred and ten percent in

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<v Speaker 1>and super supportive of each other. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>really goes a long way and mental health and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for me, I was at a point where

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of hiding my uh you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>you live in that that lifestyle of that stigma where

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<v Speaker 1>I was kind of just holding in my emotions and

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<v Speaker 1>no one really knows what's going on. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that I have that support system back home,

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<v Speaker 1>and so some people don't have that, and so I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's right, and it's the best to

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<v Speaker 1>encourage people to, you know, support your loved ones, support

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<v Speaker 1>your family, support your friends, whatever it is that they're

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<v Speaker 1>going or you might not even know it because they

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<v Speaker 1>might not wear it on their sleeve like some people do.

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<v Speaker 1>They might hide it inside what a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 1>So always be that support system, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just encourage people to just reach out to friends and

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<v Speaker 1>family and just check on each other because it's hard times.

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<v Speaker 1>And just in our conversations, I know that you know

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<v Speaker 1>that is your heart just to help other people and

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage other people. And that kind of leads into

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<v Speaker 1>my next question as well, because I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about your brand I Am Gifted. You know you're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the merchandise right now. I know I have

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<v Speaker 1>one of the sweatshirts. I know you were recently back

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<v Speaker 1>in Boise and being able to share that with other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us a little bit about kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the message behind your brand and the vision that you

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<v Speaker 1>have for it in the future. Yeah. So when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about life, it's what you make of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I just always want to ask myself the question too,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to make of your life? So

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that people can always just ask themselves, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to make of your life? And my brand,

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to start a brand that was more

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<v Speaker 1>than just a logo, more than just my initials tagged

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<v Speaker 1>on some merchandise or anything. I wanted to be more

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<v Speaker 1>of a movement, more of something that can mean something

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody like it means to me. So I came

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<v Speaker 1>with I Am Gifted. And that's because I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>integrate my initials into something that was meaningful and that

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<v Speaker 1>something that people can support. And with that, I say

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone has a gift inside. Everyone's born with a gift.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to find it, embrace it, and use

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<v Speaker 1>it to shed some light into the world. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, wholeheartedly believe that just seeing I

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<v Speaker 1>Am gifted, you're subliminally telling yourself that you're gifted, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that goes a long way. So I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to have merchandise where you know, it says I am gifted,

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<v Speaker 1>and people can look at that and just in the

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<v Speaker 1>second of you reading that, whether it was in your

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<v Speaker 1>head or out loud, you know, passing by, you just

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<v Speaker 1>hold yourself, I am gifted and just spreading that light,

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<v Speaker 1>that positivity, that love, there's something I'm super passionate about,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just I just really wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that my brand means something and that it's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a movement. So that's why I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do that collaboration and emphasizing mental health and suicide prevention

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<v Speaker 1>so that people around the world that you might be

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're in a dark place, they can, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>look at I Am Gifted and the message behind it

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<v Speaker 1>and believe in something. Well. I know, I definitely love

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<v Speaker 1>the mission behind that. The sweatshirt is super comfy too,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an added bonus, but definitely hope that people

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and check that out. So thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>sharing more about that with us. And then lastly, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess just kind of bigger picture, you know, why did

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be a part of this Getting Open

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<v Speaker 1>series and what do you hope that people can take

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<v Speaker 1>from this? Everything's bigger than me, So I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of something and that's bigger than myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been able to do that. I been blessed

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<v Speaker 1>to be in a position with my platform and being

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<v Speaker 1>a part of such an amazing organization in the Vikings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted to make sure that I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to be vulnerable so that somebody else can look

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<v Speaker 1>at that and they can be vulnerable as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think They're Getting Open series is something that's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>for us to share our stories and for people to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to relate. And like I said, I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope that anyone out there watching, anyone out there listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get the message that you're not alone, and

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<v Speaker 1>anyone that has anyone around them that is feeling that way,

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<v Speaker 1>just continue to show that love and support and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're that support. Sis. Thank you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex I think that's all I have for you. Awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Thanks so much to Alex for really being

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<v Speaker 1>open and honest about his experiences and sharing with us

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<v Speaker 1>more about his desire to support additional reas sources for

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<v Speaker 1>mental health as well as continue to raise awareness for

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<v Speaker 1>suicide prevention. In the coming weeks, keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>all Vikings digital platforms as we continue to roll out

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<v Speaker 1>our Getting Open series