1
00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast.

2
00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox

3
00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319
Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to

4
00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440
Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at

5
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every

6
00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799
Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio

7
00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720
Speaker 1: or FSR.

8
00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640
Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver

9
00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

10
00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,400
Speaker 1: Well, here we go. It is a Friday news breaking.

11
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,519
Speaker 1: It is great to be here. We are live and

12
00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,840
Speaker 1: it is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however

13
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,640
Speaker 1: you may be listening. Always appreciate you stopping by.

14
00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:41,120
Speaker 3: Jack.

15
00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,960
Speaker 1: You know what, after some time off, you and I

16
00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,640
Speaker 1: got back in the saddle and there there is actually

17
00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,879
Speaker 1: been a lot going on this week. And we got

18
00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,640
Speaker 1: a little story that broke yesterday, which is good for us,

19
00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,280
Speaker 1: and it's something we've been banging on. I've been banging

20
00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,440
Speaker 1: on the show for about six months. They hate me

21
00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,120
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and once again they're not gonna like I'm

22
00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,680
Speaker 1: going to say here, but good Friday to you. You

23
00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 1: ready to go?

24
00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's rock and roll?

25
00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay, So TJ Watt after our show yesterday who's a

26
00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,880
Speaker 1: great player. He's an absolutely great player. There's no disputing

27
00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,800
Speaker 1: that deserves the money. Happy for him three year deal,

28
00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,319
Speaker 1: a one hundred and twenty three million dollar extension. So this

29
00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,320
Speaker 1: goes back to great player, deserves the money. I don't

30
00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,400
Speaker 1: question the player. I question the direction of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

31
00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,520
Speaker 1: It's like I don't question the power and the brilliance

32
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: and the influence of Meta. I question the direction of metaverse.

33
00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,600
Speaker 1: Are we all so miserable with our lives we're going

34
00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,080
Speaker 1: to be wearing headsets around all day. It's not the technology,

35
00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,720
Speaker 1: it's the application of the technology with Meta. And that's

36
00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,640
Speaker 1: how I feel about Pittsburgh. It's not the talent of

37
00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, it's how they prioritize defense. And frankly, their

38
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,520
Speaker 1: defense isn't that good. It's four straight years it's been

39
00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,360
Speaker 1: out of the top ten in total defense. If you

40
00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,360
Speaker 1: go to the talk playoffs, because that's all that matters

41
00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,840
Speaker 1: in this sport. January, if you go look at the

42
00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,600
Speaker 1: last five playoff games from the Pittsburgh Steelers, they've given

43
00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,280
Speaker 1: up twenty eight to thirty one, forty two, forty eight

44
00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,560
Speaker 1: and forty five. They give up forty points a game.

45
00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,799
Speaker 1: So like, they're spending all this money on the wrong

46
00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,119
Speaker 1: side of the ball and they're not dominant. Well, they've

47
00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,919
Speaker 1: gotten better on defense and they've gotten worse on offense

48
00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 1: because the league's changed. They are completely disfunctional on offense.

49
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,440
Speaker 1: Last year, this is hard to do. With the talent

50
00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,760
Speaker 1: they had, it was hard to do. They were twenty

51
00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,519
Speaker 1: ninth in the red zone. How they good play Rogie

52
00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:40,560
Speaker 1: Harris Pickens, Russell Wilson, one of the best young centers

53
00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,320
Speaker 1: in the league. They were twenty ninth in the red zone.

54
00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,840
Speaker 1: They were twenty seventh best offensive line. It's almost impossible.

55
00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,040
Speaker 1: So when I look at Pittsburgh, my tickets don't hate

56
00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,560
Speaker 1: the player, hate the direction, hate what they prioritized. Why

57
00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,760
Speaker 1: can't they watch the Rams and the Niners and the

58
00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,440
Speaker 1: Lions and the Chiefs and the Eagles and the Bills.

59
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:07,359
Speaker 1: Keep your defense cheap and young. Pay one great defensive player.

60
00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,240
Speaker 1: I'd be all for paying JJ Watt this if the

61
00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,840
Speaker 1: rest of your cap was on offense and you had

62
00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,080
Speaker 1: an elite quarterback, an elite left tackle, and an elite

63
00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,720
Speaker 1: running back. The Steelers need a more balanced football diet.

64
00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,239
Speaker 1: The league went into protein and they're all carbs, and

65
00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,079
Speaker 1: what is their answer. I keep hearing, well, they're all

66
00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,800
Speaker 1: in and their answer to their offensive woes forty year

67
00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,520
Speaker 1: old Aaron Rodgers, who is like sort of committed in

68
00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,120
Speaker 1: the offseason. He's their ozempic. He's going to solve everything.

69
00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320
Speaker 1: He's going to solve their unbalanced diet. So again, it's

70
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,800
Speaker 1: not TJ. Watt. Look around at the winning his teams here,

71
00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 1: Detroit's on fire, Buffalo, Kansas City, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Rams,

72
00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,640
Speaker 1: they're key, They're giving up defensive players. And again I've

73
00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,360
Speaker 1: talked to multiple gms on this. Pay for a TJ Watt,

74
00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,400
Speaker 1: pay for a Chris Jones, pay eventually for a Jaredverse,

75
00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,760
Speaker 1: pay for the Max Crosby. But then you got to

76
00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,880
Speaker 1: just stay young and stay cheap at safety and corner

77
00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,880
Speaker 1: and linebacker.

78
00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,960
Speaker 3: So you can.

79
00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,200
Speaker 1: Pay a left tackle top of the market, quarterback top

80
00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680
Speaker 1: of the market, center top of the market, two weapons

81
00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280
Speaker 1: top of the market. But it's not the player. Eric

82
00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Man Jenny talked about it this week. It's not that

83
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960
Speaker 1: the player is not worth the money.

84
00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,080
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I would take the tjwat calls

85
00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,560
Speaker 4: or not, especially if I'm Pittsburgh and I'm Pittsburgh this season.

86
00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640
Speaker 4: It's not like they're loaded up offensively and that's going

87
00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,720
Speaker 4: to be able to carry the day. When you look

88
00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,159
Speaker 4: at TJ. Watt, he said a little over thirty sacks

89
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,880
Speaker 4: between the last two seasons. Every single game you have

90
00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,600
Speaker 4: to accountform every single game. He's the guy that offensively

91
00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,760
Speaker 4: you go into the room and say, look, this player

92
00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,240
Speaker 4: can ruin the game for us.

93
00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:08,640
Speaker 1: It's not the player, it's the prioritization of the defensive

94
00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,039
Speaker 1: side of the ball as the league has moved to

95
00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,159
Speaker 1: offense all the rules. It's not anti TJ.

96
00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:16,640
Speaker 3: Watt.

97
00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,680
Speaker 1: He is worth the money. I think he leaves the

98
00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,400
Speaker 1: NFL in sacks last five years. So, and how does

99
00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,160
Speaker 1: this play to the next story The Dallas Cowboys. Next

100
00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,800
Speaker 1: up is Michaeh Parsons. So the Cowboys tend to wait

101
00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 1: and wait and wait. So now Dallas is trapped and

102
00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,719
Speaker 1: so TJ. Watt. If you go look at the last

103
00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,360
Speaker 1: two years of TJ. Wat's production, he is better than

104
00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,320
Speaker 1: Micah Parson's last two years of production. But it's kind

105
00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,159
Speaker 1: of close. If I was Michaeh Parsons and I was

106
00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,760
Speaker 1: Michah Parsons agent, I'd want eighty five percent. I mean

107
00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,239
Speaker 1: of Tjatt. Tj Wat's got thirty sacks. I got twenty six,

108
00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,320
Speaker 1: he got sixty three. Quarterback kits So I got fifty six.

109
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,760
Speaker 1: Mike has got more pressures. So again he and his

110
00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,560
Speaker 1: agent have an argument. If tj Wat's getting forty one million,

111
00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,760
Speaker 1: Mike has got to get thirty seven thirty seven and

112
00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,240
Speaker 1: a half thirty eight. He's also four years younger. So

113
00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,840
Speaker 1: to me, and I've said this before, there's only one

114
00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,440
Speaker 1: or two players per roster that you know very early

115
00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:23,200
Speaker 1: their stars. And it's usually like quarterback, left tackle, edge rusher,

116
00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,400
Speaker 1: maybe a great weapon. And then there's players like Josh

117
00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,320
Speaker 1: Allen of Buffalo, Patrick Surtan of Denver, Jalen Carter of Philadelphia.

118
00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,080
Speaker 1: I would call them all pro plus players. Those are

119
00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,479
Speaker 1: generational players. You pay them early. You pay Jalen Carter early.

120
00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Rams are going to have this with Jared Verse. Pay

121
00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,599
Speaker 1: him a year early. You may have one a roster

122
00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400
Speaker 1: on that. Well, the Cowboys are going to pay Dak

123
00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,360
Speaker 1: top of the market, Ceedee Lamb top of the market.

124
00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,039
Speaker 1: They already are. Now they're going to have Mike at

125
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,599
Speaker 1: top of the market. And so do I think Michaeh

126
00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,680
Speaker 1: Parsons is worth that.

127
00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:57,400
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

128
00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,159
Speaker 1: But Dallas is trapped because Jerry has too much influence

129
00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,880
Speaker 1: on the draft. They haven't drafted particularly well. And the

130
00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys roster is so top heavy and so ordinary that

131
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,160
Speaker 1: whereas Philadelphia can move off stars and the Rams can

132
00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,000
Speaker 1: move off stars, Dallas can't. Rams can move off Jalen

133
00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,400
Speaker 1: Ramsey in his prime, Aaron Donald can retire two years later.

134
00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,920
Speaker 1: The defensive line is better. So when you draft like

135
00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,200
Speaker 1: Kansas City or like a Baltimore or like a Philadelphia,

136
00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,240
Speaker 1: you can move off players, you don't get trapped. I mean,

137
00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,400
Speaker 1: Dallas almost can't afford not to can't afford Michel Parsons.

138
00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's where they're at. So it's and this

139
00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,800
Speaker 1: is every business, including the one I work for, is

140
00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,200
Speaker 1: that you know, the better job you do at paying

141
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,480
Speaker 1: the right people the right money, you have more flexibility.

142
00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,640
Speaker 1: And so like the Eagles, the Chiefs, the Rams, the

143
00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,960
Speaker 1: Ravens have incredible flexibility. They move off great regularly. The

144
00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs move off Tyreek Hill Snead, the corner. Rams move

145
00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,320
Speaker 1: off Jalen Ramsey. They can move off probably a year

146
00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,960
Speaker 1: later than they wanted to Cooper Cup, Ernest Jones, the

147
00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,120
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, was a great player. They can move off

148
00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,640
Speaker 1: guys because they draft well. Dallas doesn't draft exceptionally well

149
00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600
Speaker 1: and they get trapped. So the deeper the roster, the

150
00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,000
Speaker 1: more flexibility the company has. And let me just throw

151
00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,360
Speaker 1: this out there. Go look at the last five general

152
00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,720
Speaker 1: managers to win Super Bowls. Do you think it's a coincidence?

153
00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,480
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman considered the best, Brett Veach argument second best,

154
00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,679
Speaker 1: Less need Rams, Jason light who I've talked about for years. Bucks,

155
00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,200
Speaker 1: You're looking right there at four of the top probably

156
00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,559
Speaker 1: six general managers in the sport. John Snyder or the

157
00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:52,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks is way up there. So the better GM, the

158
00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,240
Speaker 1: better the scouting department, the better you draft, the more

159
00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,959
Speaker 1: flexibility you have to move off players. Think there's about

160
00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,040
Speaker 1: thirty guys in the league tops that you just pay

161
00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:09,640
Speaker 1: for him, Miles Garrett, Max Crosby, seven quarterbacks, six left tackle,

162
00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,520
Speaker 1: you just pay for him. I don't think Mike is

163
00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,440
Speaker 1: one of those. But you get to a point now,

164
00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:20,040
Speaker 1: because they've drafted so with such mediocrity, did you have

165
00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,040
Speaker 1: to over pavor Dack, Ceedee Lamb and Micah You're kind

166
00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,480
Speaker 1: of trapped. Here's Micah this week on his contract talks.

167
00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,920
Speaker 5: I was gonna get mine no matter what, you know

168
00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,679
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like the markets change every year. Their

169
00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,200
Speaker 5: sallyar Cat went up like another eighteen percent this year.

170
00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,440
Speaker 5: They numbers got nothing to do with mine, and my

171
00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,200
Speaker 5: numbers ain't nine.

172
00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,640
Speaker 3: Gotta do it.

173
00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm younger Henderson. I mean, Hutchington is coming

174
00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,480
Speaker 5: off with injury. Like, everyone's circumstances is completely different. Hutch

175
00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 5: is coming off this third year. Usually guys week four years,

176
00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,320
Speaker 5: so it just all depends why. I mean, he's up

177
00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,520
Speaker 5: there with Myles, so you know, it's different. Everyone's circumstances different.

178
00:09:58,920 --> 00:09:59,320
Speaker 3: If TJ.

179
00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,880
Speaker 1: Watt gets four, I'm the agent for Micah Parsons, I

180
00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,200
Speaker 1: want thirty seven and a half. I want thirty eight,

181
00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,440
Speaker 1: and that gives the Cowboys three players at the top

182
00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,679
Speaker 1: of the market. Not great, but I kind of think

183
00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:19,000
Speaker 1: they're trapped, all right. J Mac Football Talk ready to roll.

184
00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 6: Wait, it sounded like you think Michah Parsons will be

185
00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,439
Speaker 6: okay with thirty eight when TJ. Watt got forty one.

186
00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,320
Speaker 6: There's no world where Michael Parsons is it demanding to

187
00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,600
Speaker 6: be the highest paid. He's gonna want all the money,

188
00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,480
Speaker 6: and I think Dallas is gonna have to give it

189
00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:33,760
Speaker 6: to him.

190
00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,680
Speaker 1: Call they don't have a choice. They mess this up. Yeah,

191
00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the highest paid non quarterbacks

192
00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,480
Speaker 1: in the league. I don't have a lot of trouble.

193
00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,720
Speaker 1: I mean, again, take out the teams. I don't. TJ.

194
00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,439
Speaker 1: Watt leads the NFL in sacks last five years, Jamar

195
00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,840
Speaker 1: Chase arguably first second best receiver. Miles Garrett is a

196
00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,400
Speaker 1: generational all time talent. Max Crosby I think's unbelievable, Justin

197
00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720
Speaker 1: Jefferson's why the best weapon in the league. I don't

198
00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,280
Speaker 1: have a problem with these. I don't think. In my opinion,

199
00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,240
Speaker 1: Micah is not in TJ. Watt, Jamar Chase, Miles Garrett,

200
00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,720
Speaker 1: Max Crosby, Justin Jefferson's class, and I think he's more

201
00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,640
Speaker 1: of a splash player.

202
00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,439
Speaker 6: I think he probably is. But Colin, I'm just curious.

203
00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,400
Speaker 6: Let's look at those six names. Let's tally up the

204
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:18,800
Speaker 6: playoff wins last year.

205
00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:19,080
Speaker 1: TJ.

206
00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,320
Speaker 6: Watt zero, Jamar Chase did not make it, Garrett did

207
00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,679
Speaker 6: not make it. Hunter they got the win over the Chargers,

208
00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,640
Speaker 6: Max Crosby and the Raiders did not make the playoffs,

209
00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,800
Speaker 6: and Justin Jefferson, you know, yeah, it did not work

210
00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 6: out great for them in the postseason.

211
00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,840
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it translates.

212
00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,560
Speaker 6: And I know it sounds too cold world to just

213
00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,000
Speaker 6: say I'm not doing that, But I keep going back

214
00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,080
Speaker 6: to that Devin Booker deal in the NBA, Like I

215
00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 6: thought it was a horrible deal. I think this TJ.

216
00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,560
Speaker 6: Watt deals horrible. It just doesn't make sense.

217
00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,840
Speaker 1: You're not well. I do think. I do think you

218
00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,160
Speaker 1: can't have a league where you just play the quarter

219
00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,360
Speaker 1: You just pay a quarterback, right, we all know you

220
00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,200
Speaker 1: pay the top quarterback. I do think they're are positions

221
00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,680
Speaker 1: that are important. For instance, I would never pay a corner.

222
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the positions, it's linebacker,

223
00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:12,240
Speaker 1: edge receiver, edge edge, edge receiver. Those are the right

224
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,520
Speaker 1: positions to pay. I think there's six positions in the

225
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,680
Speaker 1: NFL I'm going to pay. We all know this. First

226
00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,120
Speaker 1: of all, coach doesn't work against my cap. I'll coach.

227
00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,320
Speaker 1: I'll pay Jim Harball whatever he wants. But I think quarterback,

228
00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:29,520
Speaker 1: left tackle, one weapon, one to two players defensively in

229
00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,120
Speaker 1: the box. So if I had Jalen Carter and an

230
00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,680
Speaker 1: edge rusher. I'd probably pay both. In the secondary. I

231
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:40,200
Speaker 1: am a huge believer linebackers and secondary. You should draft

232
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,880
Speaker 1: a corner every year. I want them cheap. I want

233
00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,960
Speaker 1: my safeties. My corner's young, because remember, defensive players you

234
00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,679
Speaker 1: know this, get hurt statistically more than offensive players. When

235
00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,040
Speaker 1: players get hurt, you want them back on the field

236
00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,880
Speaker 1: fast as possible. Well, who recuperates and recovers faster? Players

237
00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,360
Speaker 1: under twenty seven, Not players he's twenty eight and older.

238
00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:06,280
Speaker 1: I want my defense, which gets hurt a lot, young, rotational, twitchy,

239
00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,880
Speaker 1: and recovering quickly from injury.

240
00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160
Speaker 6: So my point on the wide receiver bubble, Colin, tell

241
00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,280
Speaker 6: me the best wide receiver in the AFC Championship game

242
00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240
Speaker 6: last year between the Buffalo Bills and Kansas City Chiefs.

243
00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:17,280
Speaker 5: It just wasn't.

244
00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,200
Speaker 4: One's Don Greklin.

245
00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,840
Speaker 2: Eagles have two good ones. I'll give them that.

246
00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,720
Speaker 6: Washington Terry McLaurin like, you could pay your receivers, that's fine,

247
00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,920
Speaker 6: but just know that they're not the guy that's gonna

248
00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:26,960
Speaker 6: get you over the top.

249
00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,160
Speaker 2: You need a balanced deep.

250
00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,400
Speaker 6: Roster, which is, as you said earlier, what the great

251
00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,480
Speaker 6: gms are doing.

252
00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:33,959
Speaker 1: I think that's the.

253
00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,520
Speaker 6: Smart way to build a team as opposed to just hey,

254
00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,240
Speaker 6: let's make it the highest Peyton Don quarterback.

255
00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,640
Speaker 1: All right, Huge UFC weekend, Dana White's gonna be joining

256
00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 1: us at the top and next hour.

257
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,480
Speaker 7: Hey, it's me Rock Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast,

258
00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,320
Speaker 7: Inside the Parker for twenty two minutes of piping hot

259
00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,320
Speaker 7: baseball talk, featuring the biggest names the newsmakers in the sport.

260
00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,280
Speaker 7: Whether you believe in analytics or the I test out

261
00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,600
Speaker 7: all the bases covered. New episodes drop every Thursday, so

262
00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,920
Speaker 7: do yourself a favor and listen to Inside the Parker

263
00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,000
Speaker 7: with Rob Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you

264
00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,079
Speaker 7: get your podcast.

265
00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,839
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

266
00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400
Speaker 2: in newone Eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

267
00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920
Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

268
00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,360
Speaker 1: Dana I top of Next hour. A huge, huge fight

269
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:30,960
Speaker 1: this weekend of the UFC arguably one of the biggest

270
00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:32,480
Speaker 1: of the year. It's going to be a great Saturday

271
00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,960
Speaker 1: night for UFC. I can't wait so all week long,

272
00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,920
Speaker 1: off Vaca, I've been saying, don't listen to this. Lebron

273
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,600
Speaker 1: James stuff. He's got a no trade clause. You're not

274
00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:47,680
Speaker 1: going anywhere, at least not now. Bread crumbs becomes headlines.

275
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,120
Speaker 1: It's all nonsense. Here's something, though, I do believe, and

276
00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,400
Speaker 1: I believe it strongly, clutch sports or clutch points. There's

277
00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,520
Speaker 1: an article today that says people are on the NBA

278
00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,360
Speaker 1: believe Lebron is going to announce he's retiring after the

279
00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,880
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five season, and that may not be a

280
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,760
Speaker 1: year away, that he may announce this is his last season.

281
00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 1: And I do buy that for two reasons. Primarily Number one, Clearly,

282
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,880
Speaker 1: the Lakers feel Luca is the future. Lebron knows it.

283
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Luca knows it. Everybody in the organization knows it. Even

284
00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,200
Speaker 1: when AD was dominant and in his prime, it was

285
00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,040
Speaker 1: still Lebron's team in La. It was still Lebron was

286
00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,480
Speaker 1: the playmaker. He was sort of the shoulders up leader

287
00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,920
Speaker 1: of the team, guiding them in timeouts, player coach. It

288
00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,240
Speaker 1: was Lebron's team even when AD was dominant in the

289
00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,120
Speaker 1: COVID year, and Lebron for twenty three years has been

290
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,560
Speaker 1: the number one priority of every organization and almost oh

291
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,080
Speaker 1: is the best player. I would say the best player

292
00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,920
Speaker 1: and now he's not this year, he's not going to

293
00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,680
Speaker 1: be the best player. Luca in shape will be the

294
00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,440
Speaker 1: best player. Lebron also know the new owners are not

295
00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,560
Speaker 1: going to get backed into a corner and bully. These

296
00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,680
Speaker 1: new owners moved off Cody Bellinger, Corey Seeger, Max Scherzer,

297
00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 1: Manny Machado. They could have had many Machado to a

298
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,880
Speaker 1: long deal. He goes to their arrival to Padres and

299
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,000
Speaker 1: is an all star. He's an incredible player. Let him walk,

300
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,120
Speaker 1: Zach Grinky, let him walk. They do this. They'll pay

301
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,720
Speaker 1: for Otani in his prime. They'll pay for Mookie bentson

302
00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:28,120
Speaker 1: his prime or Freddie Freeman in his prime. Okay, they're not.

303
00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,280
Speaker 1: They're not like you're gonna hang around and pay a fortune.

304
00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,800
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, the new CBA. Lebron's too expensive

305
00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,720
Speaker 1: and too old for a guy that won't and you

306
00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,840
Speaker 1: can't build a round the smart teams now, the smart

307
00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,600
Speaker 1: gms are getting four and five years ahead on this thing.

308
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's paying the luxury tax anymore, and everything with Lebron

309
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,440
Speaker 1: operates in the near term. Nobody operates like that now

310
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,480
Speaker 1: that knows what they're doing. So Lebron's just the latest

311
00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,720
Speaker 1: casualty of the new CBA are not going to blow

312
00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,560
Speaker 1: through the luxury tax like Joe lacub did for years

313
00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,840
Speaker 1: in the Warriors dynasty. That is over and it's not

314
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 1: his play. He's a top ten twelve guy on any night.

315
00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,560
Speaker 1: His play is remarkable, but he is now hard to sign.

316
00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 1: He's an old, expensive guy who doesn't want to give you.

317
00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,639
Speaker 1: I mean he's I mean, I'm sure he'd take a

318
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,199
Speaker 1: four or five year deal. Now he shouldn't pay him that.

319
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,520
Speaker 1: So the best gms are not going to want a

320
00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,000
Speaker 1: part of what Lebron's become.

321
00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,119
Speaker 3: You know.

322
00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,679
Speaker 1: It's like Lebron's a little bit like those tight fitting

323
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 1: skinny jeans. They can still look good on people, but

324
00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,280
Speaker 1: it's not the current fashion right, little out of style,

325
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,760
Speaker 1: a little out of fashion. So it's not his play.

326
00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,639
Speaker 1: But I can see Lebron looking at it thinking, if

327
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,520
Speaker 1: you've been the number one priority and had control for

328
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,240
Speaker 1: twenty three years, Michael Jordan didn't have control for twenty

329
00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,040
Speaker 1: three years. They told him is the last dance. Okay,

330
00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,440
Speaker 1: Lebron's arguably be the only player in NBA history control

331
00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,240
Speaker 1: beginning to end the minute he was drafted. That point

332
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,639
Speaker 1: forward he had a lot of control, and the minute

333
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 1: he didn't get it in Miami or didn't feel like

334
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,280
Speaker 1: he was going to get it with pat Riley, he

335
00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,600
Speaker 1: took it back and went to Cleveland. And so now

336
00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,480
Speaker 1: two things are happening. He's not going to be the

337
00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,560
Speaker 1: best player this year because Luca's in shape and will

338
00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,600
Speaker 1: probably average thirty a game. Still won't play defense, but

339
00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,240
Speaker 1: all average thirty a game, and lucas the priority. So

340
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,040
Speaker 1: Lebron's always been the best player on any given night,

341
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,399
Speaker 1: and Lebron's always been the priority. He's not. Dan Woiki

342
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,679
Speaker 1: yesterday talked about Lebron the Lakers in the future.

343
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 8: The order of operations here would have to be a

344
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,880
Speaker 8: request from Lebron James. I don't believe the Lakers are

345
00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,080
Speaker 8: going to come to Lebron James with a trade and

346
00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:46,399
Speaker 8: say this is what we want, Will you accept it?

347
00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:46,760
Speaker 1: Right?

348
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,000
Speaker 8: I think it would have to be.

349
00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,680
Speaker 3: The other way around.

350
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I think the Lakers are very comfortable, you know,

351
00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,160
Speaker 8: being in this stage of the Lebron James business, despite

352
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,240
Speaker 8: sort of the inherent uncomfortabilities of it, particularly the win

353
00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 8: now pressure that his presence has put on the organization.

354
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,879
Speaker 8: Since really today he signed for this last chapter of

355
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,720
Speaker 8: his career.

356
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 1: I honestly believe they went and got DeAndre Ayton because

357
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 1: deep down they know it's the last year Lebron's going

358
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 1: to be a Laker and they wanted to give him

359
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,679
Speaker 1: a shot. DeAndre Ayton's not a perfect fit. Powdy Moody

360
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 1: won't defend, but Luca reeves DeAndre Ayton Lebron James at

361
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,440
Speaker 1: least to the trading deadline. It feels big, it sounds interesting,

362
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: it sounds offensively elite, and it will be. It's not

363
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna be as good as Houston or Denver or Oklahoma

364
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 1: City or I think Dallas potentially, but it'll be good.

365
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,600
Speaker 1: And I think the owners are saying, listen, let's keep

366
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,120
Speaker 1: it to ourselves. Let's give him one last great run

367
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 1: his last year in LA. Let's get because he's still

368
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 1: a great player. Let's get everything out of it. And

369
00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, if it's not working and Ayden's

370
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: moody and you know, and Lebron you can.

371
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,280
Speaker 2: See his age.

372
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 1: I doubt it that you could see his age, then

373
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 1: we'll make a move. But for the time being, I

374
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: do think it's on the table for Lebron before the

375
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: end of next season to announce, Yeah, this is it,

376
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,320
Speaker 1: this is gonna be it.

377
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,960
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd Weekdays

378
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,959
Speaker 2: and Noon Easter non a em Pacific.

379
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, Ower three, we finally had Dana White. He's busy,

380
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 1: he's in New Orleans. UFC three eighteen. That's gonna be

381
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,440
Speaker 1: a great card, highlighted by one of those classic fights.

382
00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,160
Speaker 1: Conmemberwhen McGregor and Nate Diaz would meet two and three

383
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: times and you're like, Saturday, you knew what you were

384
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna be doing. And I think we got Dustin Fourier,

385
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: who's one of the all time most likable fighters', most interesting,

386
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: most entertaining against Max Holloway. They're meeting for a third time.

387
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to waste Jana White's time. He's the

388
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 1: CEO in the UFC President He is joining us live

389
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: from New Orleans, and we appreciate his busy guy. So

390
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: what's interesting in the history of UFC. The best fighters

391
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: I've ever seen are John Jones, who was unbelievable in

392
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: his prime, and I think Kabebe who made even Connor

393
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 1: McGregor look completely upmatched. But Dustin Pourrier, who fights Holloway

394
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow is one of the more entertaining, likable, interesting guys.

395
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: He's on that second tier of guys that when he fights,

396
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 1: I have to watch. Did you envision him when you

397
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: found him being this great, this captivating for this long Dana.

398
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 9: Who Max and Dustin? I mean, yeah, yeah, Well you

399
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 9: never know. You never know. Obviously, you know when he

400
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 9: first faced Connor, they were really uh early in their careers,

401
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 9: and and Connor won that fight, and you never know

402
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 9: how a guy is going to bounce back from a loss.

403
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 9: But if you look at Poorier's last eleven fights, I mean,

404
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 9: it's it's all been straight killers, and seven of them

405
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 9: are former world champions.

406
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: So he's absolutely.

407
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 9: A very special fighter, as is Holloway, which is what

408
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 9: makes this fight so intriguing.

409
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,640
Speaker 1: And the history of the UF seen nobody's landed more

410
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: strikes than Holloway and the poree will sit in the

411
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: middle of the ring and throw blows. Is you know

412
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 1: what's interesting about your sport? And I was talking to

413
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 1: a member of the staff when Caitlin Clark came to

414
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: the WNBA. They weren't prepared for it. They weren't well run,

415
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: they weren't well organized, she's overwhelmed them. The officiating's bad.

416
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: You got you and the Fertita's run a great sport.

417
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: So when Connor McGregor arrived, you were prepared for it.

418
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 1: But like Caitlin Clark, he was so damn popular, so fast,

419
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: and I want you to talk about that. You have

420
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: not only been on the ground floor, but you had

421
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: your Caitlin Clark. You had a superstar emerged that was

422
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: literally the most viral human being in American sports. So

423
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: as the WNBA is struggling with Caitlin, go back to

424
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: the Connor days of what it's like to run a

425
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: sport and here comes a superstar, a Taylor Swift into

426
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: your lap. Do you remember? Was it great? Did it

427
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: create anxiety? Take us back to that time?

428
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

429
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 9: No, I mean the first time that I ever sat

430
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 9: down and had dinner with Connor McGregor in Las Vegas.

431
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 9: He flew out from Ireland and I left the dinner

432
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 9: and I called Lorenzo.

433
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: For Tita and I said, let me tell you what.

434
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 9: I don't know if this guy can fight or not,

435
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 9: but if you can even throw a punch, he's gonna

436
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 9: be a huge superstar.

437
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: Fro Us and.

438
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 9: Obviously you know, we leaned into that, and you're right. Listen,

439
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark is a massive superstar. I'm a fan, so

440
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 9: all the stuff that I got going on right now.

441
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 3: I actually had my assistant.

442
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 9: Look to see when I have season tickets to the Aces,

443
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 9: so I had them find out, you know, when she

444
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 9: was coming to town, and I'm clear on my schedule

445
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 9: so I can go to that game and watch her

446
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 9: play live. I agree with what you're saying.

447
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you are apparently I just read this the

448
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: other day and this made news. Are going to have

449
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: a card at the White House. So you've gone to

450
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: an island, travel around the country, now you're going to

451
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: have something at the White House. Obviously, I mean they're

452
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: security and all these things. Were you shocked when that

453
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: was offered to you or did you know that was coming?

454
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: I did not know was coming.

455
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, but when he offered it up, I was like,

456
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 9: oh yeah, I'm all in on this. So we've already

457
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 9: sent a logistics team out there that have walked the

458
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 9: White House. There's calls going back and forth every day

459
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 9: between Craig We're sorry, and my head of production and

460
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 9: the White House. And then we will have all these

461
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 9: renderings done within the next ten days, and where to

462
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 9: fly out and sit down and walk them through it

463
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 9: and see what he wants and what he doesn't want.

464
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: So you're also going getting involved in boxing with Canelo

465
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: and Crawford. So you and I have talked about this.

466
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: We both grew up boxing fans. I grew up with

467
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 1: mommad Alian Fraser. I grew up with Sugar Anne Hearns

468
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: and Hagler. You did too as a Boston guy, and

469
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: then you're part of UFC. I prefer UFC. I think

470
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: it's more consistent. I think the quality the women's division,

471
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: but I still have a soft spot for a great

472
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: boxing match. I saw Pacquiao fight six times. So as

473
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: you go into boxing, why did you choose to do it?

474
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 9: You know, I've been talking about it for a long time.

475
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 9: You know, I've had a lot of criticism of boxing

476
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 9: over the years, and now here I am. It's time

477
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 9: to put my money where my mouth is and tickets

478
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 9: go on sale today, actually for Canelo Crawford Legion Stadium

479
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 9: September thirteenth, Tickets on sale today. You know, for me

480
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 9: to be able to my first boxing match that I'm

481
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 9: going to promote other than McGregor Mayweather is Canelo versus Crawford,

482
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 9: you know, two of the greatest fighters of our era

483
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 9: and in a big, massive fight in a stadium in

484
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 9: Las Vegas. I mean, this whole thing just sort of

485
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 9: fell in my lap. I have other plans in twenty

486
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 9: six and what I'm going to do with boxing, but

487
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 9: this fight here, yeah, this, this just sort of happens,

488
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 9: shake Turkey and I ended up doing this deal for

489
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 9: me to promote this fight.

490
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: So Max Holloway and Dustin Poorier tomorrow. One of the

491
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: hard things for you, even a Nick Connitt WWE, although

492
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: USC is different obviously, is finding your next star. Now,

493
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you have a draft, you have seven

494
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: rounds of draft. They come to you. But in your world,

495
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: where do you find Take me behind the scenes on

496
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: the standard, Where do you find your next Dustin Poier?

497
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Where do you find your stars? Are you flying around

498
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: the globe to find Do you have a team of

499
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: people that do that?

500
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

501
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 9: I have matchmakers that are always looking for up and

502
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 9: coming talent.

503
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: But where it really comes from? Right now?

504
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 9: We do a show called Data White's Contender Series. Yes,

505
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 9: starts in August and the best unsigned fighters in the

506
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 9: world fight each other on this show to see who

507
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 9: warns a contract, and it's been unbelievable for creating talent.

508
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 9: We've already had three world champions come off that show.

509
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 9: So yeah, that's that's really where it is right now.

510
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Okay, UFC three to eighteen, Halloway Pooria tomorrow. The Smoothie

511
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: King Center in New Orleans is great, by the way,

512
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: it's a great, great venue. It's going to be wild

513
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: because Potier is actually from there. Holloway's from the Hawaii.

514
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Before I let you go forever, there was this stupid

515
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,360
Speaker 1: stigma about you can't have pro teams in Vegas, and

516
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was ridiculous. I mean, it just apps.

517
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody monitors sports gambling like Vegas. They don't

518
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: want games thrown. So now you've got hockey, UFC, You've

519
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: got a baseball coming, You've got the Raiders For people

520
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: that haven't been to Vegas in a while. Are you

521
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: surprised how willing over the last five years pro sports

522
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: have been. I mean, you were the first in that,

523
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: really you you because boxing was all over the place.

524
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Are you surprised that people have finally embraced Vegas over

525
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: the last half decade.

526
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 3: Well, I think it was the gambling issue.

527
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 9: I think you know, they were so stuck on the

528
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 9: gambling issue and one stack it over.

529
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: You could tell if you grew up in Vegas.

530
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 9: When you think about the un LV running Rebels, they

531
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 9: were like the pro team when I was a kid,

532
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 9: and they were so well supported and uh, you know,

533
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 9: financially and people buying tickets and the list goes on

534
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 9: and on. I knew that. Listen, if you're going to

535
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 9: go to an away game for your team anytime during

536
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 9: the year, which one are you gonna pick? You're definitely

537
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 9: going to Vegas. It's it's a no brainer. You go

538
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 9: in there. You have an unbelievable weekend, tons of hotels,

539
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 9: the greatest restaurants in the world, the best shopping, There's

540
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 9: always something to do, and it's just a noble I mean,

541
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 9: there are so many sports you There's gonna be a

542
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 9: ping pong league there pretty soon. Vegas is the sports

543
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 9: capital of the world right.

544
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: Now, dustin Porri before we go. But a boxer gets older,

545
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: and do they say to you, hey, Dana, this is

546
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna be my last fight. Do you approach them sometimes

547
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: and go, you know what, man, we care about your health,

548
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: we care about you as a guy. When you get

549
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: a poorier who's still very good, how who makes the decision,

550
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: Dana is it? Do you ever lead that and say, hey, guy,

551
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: I think he had about two fights left.

552
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 9: Well, poorier in Holloway are ranked number four and number

553
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 9: five in the world and the nastiest division in the sport.

554
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 9: So you know, it's not like they're they're on this

555
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 9: huge decline or anything like that. And you know, Fourier

556
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 9: was the one that said I think I'm ready to retire,

557
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 9: and he wanted to do it here, you know, in

558
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 9: his home state. And think about this highest grossing event

559
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 9: in arena history tonight over seven or Saturday night and

560
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 9: over seventeen thousand in attendance. So still a huge superstar still,

561
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 9: you know, on top of his game, and a legitimate

562
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 9: badass fight for his last fight, you know, his retirement fight.

563
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 9: So now there's stuff I would never go to a

564
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 9: guy like POORI and say, hey, you should think about,

565
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 9: you know, retiring. There have been guys, but it's usually

566
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 9: guys that are on a skid and don't want to

567
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 9: retire it. Those are usually the ones that I say,

568
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 9: you know, you should probably hang it up.

569
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: So I'm buying it tomorrow. Max Holloway, Dustin Poorier, UFC

570
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: three eighteen. Danny, you're a busy guy. I always appreciate

571
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: you stopping buying giving the herd ten minutes