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Speaker 2: We get him about once every three or four weeks,

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Speaker 2: and I always love it. So I you know, on television,

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Speaker 2: you know, I can't go into too much detail. But

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about this today when I was taking

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Speaker 3: Yeah I do. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Good for you, buddy, one of the people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man of the people. It's what everyone's always said

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Speaker 3: about you.

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Speaker 2: So there's a knock on Sga And I've said this,

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Speaker 2: He's not a lot of fun to watch, but it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I went back to like George Miken and if you

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Speaker 2: go back, take Lebron, Michael Jordan, and Kobe Out. They

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Speaker 2: are hyper athletic. They are among NBA players insane. And

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Speaker 2: what I'm going to mention to you are the leaders

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Speaker 2: of dynasties and the leaders of champions. George Miken, Havelchek Kouzi,

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Speaker 2: Moses Malone, du Mars, Isaiah Isaiah, Akeem Burn, McHale, Magic,

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Speaker 2: Kareem Duncan, Tony Parker, Steph Draymond Jokich, Murray Sga, Dirk

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Speaker 2: Luca separately, Katie Harden, Bill Walton, Rick Berry, wes Unseld

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Speaker 2: Gus Williams. You start going from the sixties on, it

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Speaker 2: is remarkable how often the hyper athletic player, the Sean Kemp,

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Speaker 2: the Drexler, the meek, doesn't win titles. We are fascinated

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Speaker 2: with them, but it's the foundational player. It's the player

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Speaker 2: that gives you twenty eight in place on both ends.

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Speaker 2: And so I think the league's history doesn't favor Ant.

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Speaker 2: It favors SGA, who is a I said, yes, today

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Speaker 2: SGA averages thirty three at night because he scores thirty

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Speaker 2: three at night. Aunt average is twenty five because he

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Speaker 2: scores thirty nine and.

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Speaker 1: Then nineteen and the yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when there's a consistency with SGA, F and Duncan

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Speaker 1: But most of our great dynasties and teams have been

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Speaker 2: At times kind of a boring efficient.

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Speaker 1: I mean, isn't Jason Tatum closer to SGA than Ant?

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Speaker 1: Is he not?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, Tatum might be. But I'm gonna push back

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Speaker 3: here because you I don't think intentionally, but you'd left

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Speaker 3: out Bill Russell who won eleven and while he wasn't flashy, yeah,

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Speaker 3: was either the best or the second best athlete of

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Speaker 3: well he was second best because Wilt Chamberlain was there.

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Speaker 3: Now he only won two. You did not include doctor

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Speaker 3: and it's there's ten right there. I think that Ant

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Speaker 3: the audience, Ant and SGA feel like they're the same.

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Speaker 4: Age, even though SGA is almost four years old, right

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Speaker 4: because it feels like they have both they have both

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Speaker 3: So the fact that Ant twenty three and s soon

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Speaker 3: they know, like SGA older than Luca, Like that doesn't

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Speaker 3: I think there is a little too much and maybe

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Speaker 3: Ant skepticism right now because he hasn't now in back

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Speaker 3: to back conference finals come through, but he's it was

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Speaker 3: And at twenty three, SGA wasn't anything close to an

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Speaker 2: You know what he is, he's Lamar Jackson. The first

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Speaker 2: I'm good on the pre snap stuff. Now at one point,

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Speaker 2: cognitively really quick. And Russell Wilson admits, and Brady admits,

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Speaker 2: Now Jayden Daniels total outlier. It's like he's got it

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Speaker 3: Prec until I know what I'm doing, right, until I

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Speaker 3: I think Shae is, you know, kind of wise beyond

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Speaker 3: his youth, the way he talks, and I so here

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Speaker 3: is I I thought Shaye was very clearly league's MVP

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Speaker 3: this year. I until the Lakers traded for Luca. I

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Speaker 3: thought pretty clearly all year Oklahoma City was the best team.

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Speaker 3: I want the Lakers trade for Luca. I thought they

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Speaker 3: could beat them. But the moment the Lakers got knocked out,

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Speaker 3: I said, I thought Oklahoma City was gonna win it,

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Speaker 3: and in my opinion Game four against the temborl they

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Speaker 3: won the championship. Like I think that, I think this

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Speaker 3: We have seen other MVPs Embeid and most notably Harden

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Speaker 3: do this stuff. Nobody ever likes that. Like, that's not

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Speaker 3: picking on SGA, that is uh, it's something people don't like.

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Speaker 3: And people come back to me with, well, Nick, you

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Speaker 3: love Luca. Luca does not flop. Luca winds Luca if

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Speaker 3: he gets a call, he's angry he didn't get it sooner.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't get a call, he's furious, But he

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Speaker 3: is trying to finish through contact. Shay is being a

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Speaker 3: is a great, great player, and they're gonna win eighty

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Speaker 3: he's going to average north of thirty throughout. It's an

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Speaker 3: all time great season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other thing, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I told you this, I may have told Danny Parkins

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Speaker 2: this the advantage Oklahoma City has accumulating all these draft picks.

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Speaker 2: So I've always been a believer in baseball and NBA

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Speaker 2: just give away draft picks. It's the opposite in football,

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Speaker 2: because you're getting a twenty four year old and you

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Speaker 2: can get fifty to sixty percent that hit, and some

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Speaker 3: And it's a hard cap and you need cheap.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so you get guys that come in and

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Speaker 2: not only are good Quentin Nelson guard. Coltz was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Not only are they good, but what is happening with NIL?

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Speaker 2: Players like Zach Edy are like, you must stay another

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Speaker 2: buying the best European players. What does that mean? College

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: So here's the other thing where they do. So if

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Speaker 3: a ton of picks when you look at it, none

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Speaker 3: all that stuff. Here's and they already did this once

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Speaker 3: name's Topicch who stayed in Europe. They drafted him a

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Speaker 3: year or two ago and he should come over next year.

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Speaker 3: What they will be able to do is draft international

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Speaker 3: they will be totally fine with that because they don't

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Speaker 3: have enough space on their roster right now. They don't

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Speaker 3: point you're making is they can instead of drafting the

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Speaker 3: that's useful. And listen, Presty's done a great job drafting.

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Speaker 3: Where I would caution everyone is of the last five

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Speaker 3: next level there, how are they they? I guess the

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Speaker 3: Lakers have gone Denver, Boston, but that right, so exactly

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Speaker 3: They traded for Holiday. They're obviously gonna be dominant. They

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Speaker 3: have been back to round three. Golden State was different

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Speaker 3: Denver we were like, okay, it's the Yo Kajira. All year

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Speaker 3: can see it happening again with Okac, where people are

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Speaker 2: Darnold are very similar that they can be mistake prone,

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Speaker 2: but they can plan it and they're real players.

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Speaker 3: Forty touchdowns. Yes, no, but he's been really good. Yeah.

431
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Speaker 2: No. Baker is a prime example. You see this a

432
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: lot in the NBA, where a guy comes in and

433
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: he just needs the mature aunt Edwards. In the NFL, generally,

434
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: maturity is not the issue. It's you either have it

435
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: or you don't. Baker was the rare lot of testosterone,

436
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence, and I felt like, can somebody

437
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: turn the governor down just a little. He was Johnny Manziel,

438
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: but more likable and with actual talent. He could really

439
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: throw a football. But I think Baker is the rare

440
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: NFL player in quarterback. You're like one of the talents. Inarguable,

441
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: he's just got to turn the governor down. Cleveland was

442
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 2: not built for Baker. You go to a great GM,

443
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: a talented roster in Tampa, which is by the way,

444
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: below the radar. It's in the NFC South, which is

445
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: a low profile division. Baker now is absolutely under discussed.

446
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: He is a really good NFL quarterback. I don't think

447
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: that's disputable.

448
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's hard to make a top ten

449
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: and not include him. And then when you add to

450
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Speaker 3: the fact that he makes around sixty percent of what

451
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: the other guys in that top ten make, his value

452
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: is massive. He for a guy who dealt with injuries

453
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: during in his time in Cleveland, He's incredibly durable. His

454
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: teammates love him, and he now has back to back

455
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: years of really high productivity, a playoff quarterback, win the

456
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: division again forty touchdowns last year. I and so, yeah,

457
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Speaker 3: I think that there was because he was talked about

458
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Speaker 3: so much when he wasn't yet that good. I think

459
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: people got I don't know if numbs the right word,

460
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: but they were just kind of got over him. And

461
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: now that he is I think really good people are

462
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 3: just like, Okay, yeah, that's Baker, like he's a people

463
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 3: I think boxed him in. He's a good story and

464
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: that is true, but he's more than that at this point.

465
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 3: At this point, like, do I this is you know,

466
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: a third rail for some Do I think he's better

467
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: than Brock Birdie? Would I rather have? Like? And so

468
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 3: you said, Dak Prescott, I think that's close. I think

469
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: that there is there are a lot of quarterbacks that

470
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 3: like I'll give you a great example. Now, this guy's

471
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: young and we'll see, but he makes a lot of money.

472
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 3: I think he's pretty clearly better than Jordan Love. And

473
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: I think that Jordan Love is discussed like he is.

474
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: Thing. So I was really not anti Jordan Love, but

475
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: I but I had said for two years there is

476
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: more footage of Bigfoot than Jordan Love. They're hiding him

477
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: for a reason. Then he came out and he was

478
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 2: kind of sensational, and I really bought into him. And

479
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: then it's as if the league defensive coordinators got all

480
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 2: this footage and they found holes. And at the end

481
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: of last year, you're like, oh, people have caught on

482
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: to him. This is and now it would be a

483
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: sophomore slump for anybody else, but he was like in

484
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: his fourth year in fifth years, and so I want

485
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: to see him. So now it's like an NBA playoff series,

486
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: like you get worked, then you change things and that

487
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: there's stages and coaching, you know, adaptations.

488
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: To a playoff ser adjustment. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 2: So now I've seen Jordan shock the league. Now I've

490
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: seen people react and he struggles. Now I want to

491
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: see his next hand with Matt Lafleur. That's why they

492
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: drafted to me a g a receiver in the first round,

493
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: because they're like, listen, we he may need a little

494
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: more help than we think here. But I I so,

495
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: I'm not sure Baker's better. I think Jordan's got a

496
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: hell of a whip and he's a really good athlete.

497
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: But he's He's one of the last quarterbacks in this league.

498
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Speaker 3: Jordan Love.

499
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I know who's bad, I know who's good.

500
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: I know who's pretty good. Jordan Love is the last.

501
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: I'm not really sure what he is in the league

502
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: to me, I.

503
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw another guy that I'm not. I think

504
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: this guy's really good, but I'm gonna put the not sure,

505
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: and that's CJ. I think that I think CJ's certainly good.

506
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: That it is there are some I think it is

507
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: hard in the modern NFL to be really good if

508
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: you hate running, you don't, you know what I mean.

509
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: And and now, like I'm sure CJ, especially because he's

510
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: black quarterback, like was probably you know, felt pressure like

511
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 3: to prove to everyone like I'm I'm not you know

512
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: what I I mean, I'm not a running back with

513
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: that also play in the position. I'm a true prototypical

514
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: pocket passer. The problem with that is that position it's

515
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: not extinct, but it is the just the Matt Stafford,

516
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: Jared Goff, Joe Burrow style is it's just a hard

517
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: way to make a living. And it doesn't mean you

518
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: have to be you know one read and then take

519
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: off and run. But it's a nice pitch to have,

520
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: particularly come the playoffs. And I thought CJ in the

521
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: playoffs last year actually went to it a little more

522
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: and so that was a good sign. But I just

523
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: want to see a little more from him. But yeah,

524
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: I think in general, we usually know who these guys are,

525
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: and then there are guys who like this is the

526
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 3: thing that I would say about guys like Donald or Gino.

527
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: I don't think Darnald's a weird one for you because

528
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: you always saw this really good player. But I think

529
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 3: people that said like those guys were not good potentially

530
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: were correct, and then those guys, through hard work and

531
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: maturation and learning and getting older, got good like I,

532
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: you know what I and so like the I think

533
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: that a guy like Gino, I think Gino was probably

534
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 3: rightfully a you know, lower tier backup early and then

535
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: worked his ass off, got better, learned more, and became

536
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: this player. But yeah, I think most of the quarterbacks

537
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: we know, we know about who they are. The one

538
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: one I'll throw another one at you that to me

539
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: is the most confusing or most intriguing, and that's Herbert,

540
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 3: Because Herbert, it's there is no there is no question

541
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: how talented he is. But five years into your career,

542
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 3: you need more than just he's throws an amazing ball.

543
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: And there's not a lot of quarterbacks who five years

544
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: into their career who ended up being amazing who five

545
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: years into their career hadn't accomplished anything, and he's on that. Yeah.

546
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: No, he his first two head coaches though, Dean Spanos

547
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: until Harbaugh never paid money for a coach, so his

548
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: first two coaches were a miss. So I do think

549
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: he's a rare. Circumstantially, I think he's a rare. I

550
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: think the people in the league that I know all

551
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: love him. He was also the justin Herbert criticism is fair.

552
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: He was mechanical on film. People thought he was mechanical.

553
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: Tom Telesco, who drafted him, said we thought he was mechanical.

554
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: Then I went and watched him in person and I

555
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: saw him play the best Iowa, best Wisconsin defense of

556
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: all time and went, oh, Okay, he's not that mechanical. Hey,

557
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: So we all make mistakes, but owning up to them

558
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: is the right thing to do. So you know degree

559
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: cool Rush deodorant right, Well, last year they changed the

560
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: formula and it did not go over well with their fans.

561
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: So Degree the whole thing is, it turns up the

562
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: sweat and odor protection when you turn up the effort,

563
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: and good thing it does, because cool Rush fans really

564
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: turned up the effort to bring the original formula back

565
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: one guy even started an online petition and Degree listened.

566
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: They admitted they fed up. They're bringing back the original

567
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: cool Rush scent. They're bringing it back and it's exactly

568
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: how you remember it, cool, crisp and fresh. It's back

569
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: in Walmart, Target and other stores now for under four dollars.

570
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: There's a reason that's been the number one men's anti

571
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: perspert for the last decade. It's the same reason why

572
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: people were not happy when it changed. So if you've

573
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: never tried it, it might be a good time to

574
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: see what the fuss is about. Head to your local

575
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: Walmart Target and try the og degree cool Rush for yourself.

576
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: But he can be sort of a rhythm quarterback when

577
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: he gets out of rhythm. You know, I've said this

578
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: about certain players are like the pacers are a rhythm offense.

579
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: Haliburton leaves for four and a half half minutes, they

580
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: can't get the rhythm back, Like it's like, oh, it

581
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: just doesn't work. Like Herbert's a rhythm thrower. Like he

582
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: gets into a rhythm and if you bang him, or

583
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: he gets sacked or or a receiver drops it, he

584
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: can get out of rhythm. A lot of quarterbacks, aren't

585
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: They just they just pick it up, they go. So

586
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: I think the criticism of Herbert are fair. But he's six',

587
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: five a four to two biology major with a huge.

588
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: ARM i, mean he's super, smart he's super. Athletic he

589
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: could run. More he did a little more under, hardball

590
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: like he in. College he ran the hell out of

591
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: the ball when they needed. To here would be kind

592
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: of a CONCERN i. Have that is really just a

593
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: kernel of a BELIEF i have about, sports which is

594
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: particularly for the most scrutinized. Positions so best player on

595
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 3: AN nba, team quarterback on a football. Team the randomness

596
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 3: of your first couple times in a big spot casts

597
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 3: the longest shadow imaginable over your. Career and So i'll

598
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: use a basketball, example then a couple football. Examples the

599
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: fact That kobe as a teenager basically was a, champion

600
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: and that, Listen kobe was unbelievable on the second two

601
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: championships With, Shaq but that first championship With, shaq he

602
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: was a role player and it was Peak shaquille. O'Neill

603
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: but before he can is old enough to, drink he's a.

604
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: Champion no one is ever going to be able to

605
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: be Like can he can you win a ring With Kobe,

606
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: bryant and that gave, him in my, opinion the freedom

607
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: to be, Like i'll take every fucking into game. Shot

608
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 3: no one can ever say anything bad about, me, Right

609
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: and so it had a real. IMPACT i do. THINK

610
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: i Think Tom brady is one of the greatest athletes

611
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: of all time and obviously has the greatest resume of

612
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: any quarterback. EVER i also wonder if they simply hadn't you,

613
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: KNOW i won't even do the the tuck rule. Game

614
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 3: if in.

615
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: That First Super bowls.

616
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: Missus the field goal or he makes one bad read

617
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 3: or whatever it, is and they don't win, there then

618
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 3: does he have like the freedom to be him in

619
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: those moments moving? FORWARD i think THAT i THINK i

620
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: think there is a chance that we are talking About

621
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: Russell wilson the way we talk About Terry bradshaw if

622
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: he doesn't throw The Malcolm butler, pick BECAUSE i think

623
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: if they would have won That Super bowl and he

624
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: really believes Like i'm ordained By god to do, this

625
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: that it then led to itself and.

626
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: Go up, no, No and by losing That Super bowl and

627
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 2: throwing that, pick it eroded the chemistry in the locker,

628
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 2: room and it was never the same off one.

629
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 3: Play AND i think it eroded for. Him this feeling

630
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: of this is meant to be the flip side to

631
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: those To brady or To. Kobe example Is. Peyton So

632
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 3: peyton early in his career came up short in a

633
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: couple of big spots and then it just the weight

634
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 3: got bigger and, bigger and he got That moniker even

635
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 3: though he's a challenged any football Player i've ever. Seen

636
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: so the REASON i bring that up IS I i

637
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: worry that For, herbert he is going to walk into

638
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 3: his next playoff game with the weight of the world

639
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: on his. Shoulders he's gonna be Like i've been. HERE

640
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 3: i basically played two real and one de facto playoff.

641
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Game to the facto was the week Eighteen Chargers. Raiders

642
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Speaker 3: remember that were like a. Tie you both go to

643
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: the playoffs and The raiders steal it at the end

644
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: we blew a four score lead to The. Jags AND

645
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: i threw four picks in my other playoff, game and

646
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: it just it is so it's so flee yes what

647
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: that you know what those can? Be and so that

648
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: is to me like a real and Something i'm excited

649
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 3: to see moving because you've seen how it's worn On

650
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 3: lamar and you see the freedom mahomes. Place, Yeah mom's,

651
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: like nobody can ever call me anything but, clutch and

652
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 3: he can play it.

653
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Well lamar now is feeling the. Pressure you can See

654
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: lamar in playoff games as. TIGHT i think eventually the

655
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: failures of The chargers and The spanos family to get

656
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 2: the right coach got them to pay fifteen million dollars

657
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: a year For, harbass so he has his. Kingmaker AND

658
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 2: i also think it Takes this is something that people

659
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: don't really understand. THIS i think we tend, men at

660
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: least In, america tend to worship other men and we

661
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: just forget. That Michael jordan for years didn't do shit Without,

662
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: pippen and at the end it was pathetic In, washington

663
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: but it's six for six and he's the greatest. Ever

664
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: and he failed at baseball And michael Got Phil jackson

665
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: And Scottie pippen and everything. Changed he was just kind

666
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 2: of a ballhog who couldn't get Past, boston he couldn't

667
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: get Past. Detroit it didn't get along with a lot

668
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 2: of teammates early In chicago Or, Layton, washington and even

669
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Speaker 2: when he was with The.

670
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: Bulls he was. Hard in the Documentary Tom cruise a great.

671
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 2: Example So Tom cruise goes into high school play and

672
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 2: a year later he's in the, movies and not long

673
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Speaker 2: after that he's in a risky business and that really defines.

674
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: HIM i, mean ray banned, sales, exploded you, know from

675
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Speaker 2: the underwear, scene in risky. Business So tom had absolute.

676
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Speaker 2: Talent but if you go back and look At Tom,

677
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Speaker 2: cruise who is as, driven wilful and obsessed about movies as,

678
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: anybody it wasn't until his last five to six movies

679
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Speaker 2: where he finally came to terms With i'm just.

680
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: Going to run a lot and do action. Movies and

681
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: they all.

682
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: Hit and his last five to six movies have been massive.

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Speaker 2: Hits he Did rock Of, Ages Eyes Wide, Shut Vanilla,

684
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Speaker 2: sky who some people really, Like i've never seen. It

685
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Speaker 2: he had lots of. Missus Marlon brando had lots of.

686
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Speaker 2: Misses so think how long it took for finally finally

687
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Speaker 2: A Bradley cooper to find the right, director Or Tom

688
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: cruise to find the right. Vehicle he was always, talented

689
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: but Like, herbert he needs his, hardball and that's WHAT

690
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: i think we tend to forget is That Michael jordan

691
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Speaker 2: Had Doug collins and Stan, olbrick but No Scottie. Pippat

692
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: he couldn't win a playoff.

693
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Series none of. Them so you just need so much.

694
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Speaker 1: Help and that's you, know when anybody will ever ask.

695
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Me you know, about oh, gosh how do you Think

696
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Speaker 2: you've done it for thirty years and you have been doing?

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Speaker 1: This AND i, Say i've had great. Help i've had

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Speaker 1: really good.

699
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Speaker 2: Bosses i've had a couple, stinkers but Overwhelmingly i've had

700
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: really good support and really good agents and really good.

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Speaker 2: BOSSES i would have been somewhat. Successful but the point

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Speaker 2: being is if you find a great stockbroker or, YOUTH

703
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Speaker 2: i Mean, obama he has, somewhere he's got a kingmaker behind,

704
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Speaker 2: him you, know somebody behind him believed in, him and

705
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: we just forget that in sports and That mahomes would

706
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Speaker 2: have been. Successful But Brett veach And Andy reid are

707
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Speaker 2: a big part part of.

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Speaker 3: It oh, yeah, well well the, yeah and that it's

709
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Speaker 3: also one of the reasons THAT i find THE i

710
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Speaker 3: find it really fun but also frustrating at times when

711
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 3: we trying to parse individual credit for team sports success

712
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Speaker 3: is one of the most fun things about our. Business

713
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Speaker 3: and it's also why a guy you AND i see.

714
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 3: Similarly but is you know one of the more, polarizing

715
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Speaker 3: if you, will quarterbacks is so interesting in party because

716
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Speaker 3: there is it's so much of all, right is? It are?

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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: We you? Know LIKE i argue With wild's about. It

718
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: wild's basically his take is THAT i believe when The niners,

719
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Speaker 3: Win shanahan, won and when they, lose party, loss like

720
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Speaker 3: is you know that The shanahan gets the credit and

721
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Speaker 3: doesn't get the? Blame and my my actual take is

722
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: THAT i think that there is there are a lot

723
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 3: of factors that have gone into why a quarterback who

724
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 3: everyone in the, league including The, niners thought was not that,

725
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: good has had statistically one of the three or four

726
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: greatest starts to a career in the history of the.

727
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Speaker 3: SPORT I i understand there are. MISSES i get. IT

728
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: i Know brady went one ninety. NINE i understand all.

729
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: That BUT i when people with purty people will, say

730
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Speaker 3: you would feel differently if he were the number one,

731
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Speaker 3: Pick and my answer is because if you were the

732
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: number that's, look because that's that's, yeah you wouldn't the.

733
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Speaker 3: Draft it's not, random like if you were the number one,

734
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: pick he wouldn't be under some he would have a sight,

735
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Speaker 3: well he would like there's real things.

736
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: Too Tony romo was undrafted When Bill parcells found. Him

737
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: so the first four to five years Of Tony romo's

738
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: roster was.

739
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: GREAT i didn't pay m. Anything he was. Free the

740
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: minute they started Paying Tony, romo.

741
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 2: The offensive line wasn't as, good And Tony romo couldn't

742
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: win big, games even Though Tony romo is a really

743
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 2: GOOD b PLUS a minus.

744
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: Quarterback But tony rome was. Free Kurt warner early in his,

745
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: career WHO i think is, great undervalued, historically you, know

746
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: came into the. League he was.

747
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 2: Free there's no question that Brock purty's lineup was. STACKED i,

748
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Speaker 2: mean it's it's.

749
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Speaker 3: Well that well and, listen we don't we've done the

750
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Speaker 3: party thing. Before what is so frustrating to me about

751
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Speaker 3: the pretty thing is and maybe this is why it's

752
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: an ARGUMENT i can't get over is AND i And

753
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: i'm gonna make this, point you, know till the end

754
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: of my, career as long as this is. Relevant four

755
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: years folks argued About Jimmy, garoppolo he is he just a?

756
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: Winner is he? Underrated you? Know is you? Know? Was

757
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: did he Make brady nervous because he was breathing down his?

758
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Neck and then there were folks like. Me he was, like,

759
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: AH i actually think he's pretty, mediocre and they'd be like,

760
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: no that team was. Terrible and then he got. There

761
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: they went to AN nfc championship, game they went to

762
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: a Super, bowl AND i kept, saying, YEAH i really

763
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: think twenty five quarterbacks in the, league if you gave

764
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: them the defense The niners, had then that head, coach those,

765
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 3: weapons they would be incredibly. Successful and it's, like, well

766
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: that's a. Hypothetical we'll never. Know and then they literally

767
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: replaced him with the last pick of the draft had

768
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 3: the exact same level of, success and those same people

769
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: instead of being like, shit maybe you're, right they're like

770
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 3: that new, guy he's fucking awesome. Too i'm, like you

771
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 3: gotta be kidding. Me i'm, like they literally did. It

772
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: they didn't replace him with a first round. Pick they

773
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: replaced him with the last pick of the. Draft and

774
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: guess what they. Did they went to AN nfc championship,

775
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: game like they did With. Jimmy they then went to

776
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: A Super. Bowl like they did With, jimmy they lost

777
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 3: The Super bowl to literally the same team in very similar,

778
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: fashion And you're, like turns out they're both. Awesome and

779
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Then i'm, like, hey by the oh, wait How's groppolo

780
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: look that he's. Gone they're, like, oh, well you, know.

781
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 3: INJURIES i. Guess i'm, like or maybe he's. Stuck LIKE

782
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: i Think party's obviously better Than, Groppolo but Like garppolo

783
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: was a is a below average quarterback who looked quite.

784
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: GOOD i Think party's an average quarterback who looks great

785
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: in the exact same. System and by the, Way Jimmie

786
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 3: garoppolo never Had christian. McCaffrey AND i just feel myself going,

787
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: Crazy you're and then they paid him fifty three million,

788
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: Dollars so what DO i?

789
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: Know so on, It i've always thought it's. INTERESTING i

790
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: didn't grow up with a lot of.

791
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: TRADITION i went to.

792
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: CHURCH i went To Sunday school probably two or three

793
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Speaker 2: times as a. Kid my family Was, protestant But i'm.

794
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: Agnostic i've said that.

795
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: On the air a million.

796
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: TIMES i have no idea what's out, There much LIKE

797
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 2: Covid i'm not an, epidemiologist nor DO i have any

798
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: expertise in. RELIGION i just don't. Know SO i did

799
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Speaker 2: not grow UP i had divorces for my. PARENTS i

800
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: did not grow up in a traditional family like many

801
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: of my. Listeners so THEREFORE i understand people who really

802
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: gravitate to. Tradition it is kind of remarkable though forty

803
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: percent Of america lives in the zip code they were born.

804
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 1: In that's almost. Half that's that's pretty.

805
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: Crazy i'm now in a new, City, chicago LIKE i

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Speaker 2: just have moved my whole, life And i'm giving about two.

807
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: Weeks i'm totally. Comfortable SO i understand THAT i don't really.

808
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: Care i'm not A usc, graduate BUT i just think things.

809
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 2: Change AND usc moved into a much better, conference and

810
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: the only people that followed him to The big ten Were, Oregon,

811
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: washington AND, ucla their three biggest. Rivals so they lost

812
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: all the bad teams in The pac. Twelve they entered

813
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: a much better conference with the three toughest teams to,

814
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: beat and now we have a twelve team playoff where

815
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: they could play four other great teams at the end

816
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: of the. Year it is amazing what tradition. Does it

817
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: makes smart men beautiful women in, sports makes smart men.

818
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Dumb it is remarkable to me that people are clinging

819
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: to this game and do not understand That Lincoln riley

820
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: is paid to get to the, playoff nothing.

821
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: More he could BEAT ucla thirty eight years in a.

822
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: Row if he never got to the, playoff he would

823
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: last thirty eight, years he'd last three. More and That

824
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: i'm confounded by people that don't see WHAT usc is,

825
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: doing which is, basically we.

826
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: Want to get to the.

827
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: Playoff we don't want to Play, Michigan Ohio, State, Oregon,

828
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 2: Washington Penn state and then have A november game In South,

829
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Speaker 2: Bend indiana as a warm weather. Team i've told you this.

830
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: Before there's never been A dome. Dynasty marino was not a.

831
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: Dynasty Warm weather teams when the playoffs are outdoors In,

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Speaker 2: january are at a. Disadvantage that's why The, patriots The,

833
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Speaker 2: ravens The, eagles The, chiefs The, packers The Seahawks San

834
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: francisco have felt kind of like Dynasties dallas a, little

835
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Speaker 2: but it's colder And dallas in the winter than people.

836
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: Think SO usc is, like, hey, listen we don't want

837
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: five cold games against five? Powers are you now you're

838
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: not a huge college football. Fan you've told me, This

839
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: but is there ever anything like this that you're? Shocked

840
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: maybe it's the rock pretty, Situation you're, shocked people are

841
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: struggling with.

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00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: Change, no so, no, No BUT I i actually want

843
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 3: to stay on this BECAUSE i do have a question

844
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 3: for you on, it Because i've heard you talk about,

845
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: this and this would be. PUSHBACK i don't even know

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00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 3: if it's, pushback just my. Concern my concern would, be

847
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 3: you're right What Lincoln riley's job, Is but, this to

848
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: me is like the first cousin of what My we've

849
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 3: talked about this my when we talk about baseball changing

850
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: rules and THE nba potentially needing to change, rules and

851
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: about how the GM's job is to build a team

852
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: under the current. Rules the coach's job is to look

853
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: at the current rules and construct the best strategy. Possible

854
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 3: the commissioner's job is to make sure the product is

855
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: as entertaining as possible and to make sure it gets

856
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: the most eyeballs as. Possible and my question would, be

857
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: do you think holistically college football runs a risk the

858
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: more it just markets itself as a minor LEAGUE nfl

859
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 3: when is if people love football at the highest, level

860
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: THE nfl is the place to. Go but there are

861
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 3: a lot of people in this country way more so

862
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 3: with THE nfl and college football than there is with

863
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: college basketball in THE, nba where you ask them and they,

864
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: say college football is my. FAVORITE i watch THE. NFL

865
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 3: i love college, football and a lot of that is

866
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 3: is the, tradition the, rivalries the, pageantry the fucking cheerleaders

867
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 3: and The saturdays and all of. It do you not

868
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 3: worry at all that because there is no commissioner of

869
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: college football because everyone is just thinking what is best

870
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 3: for me right now that there isn't a risk for

871
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: the sport as a, whole that usc notre. Dame even

872
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: as a guy who doesn't, care LIKE i just not

873
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: THAT i don't care about college. Football it's like my

874
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: seventh favorite thing in. Sports i'm, like well that going

875
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 3: away would, Suck like that's like AND i don't like.

876
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: That to me is something THAT i think can't be,

877
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: missed which is whether it should, matter it. DOESN'T i

878
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 3: don't think it's best for college football to just be

879
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 3: THE nfl with younger.

880
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: People it's not going to be it's going to become

881
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: co edge basketball with a different. Ball that the best

882
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 2: thing about it will be it's three and a half

883
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: week tournament at the, end is that that's what it'll.

884
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 2: Be it won't be a poor MAN'S. Nfl it'll be

885
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: a superman's college. Basketball it'll be a better version of

886
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 2: what college basketball is where the regular season's fun and

887
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: there's some, rivalries but it's about that sixteen team playoff

888
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: at the, end and it'll be four to five. Weeks

889
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: it'll be you, know jet fuel AND i Mean Texas

890
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: georgia last year gets a monster, number Not Texas. Oklahoma

891
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: and That Auburn alabama will always. Play and by the,

892
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: Way Ohio, State michigan will always Play. Michigan Michigan state will.

893
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: Play but there will be a handful of rivalries that

894
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: will possibly, subside and that that's just the cost of

895
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 2: doing of shifting the importance To. December december was always

896
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: The Holiday, bowl The Citrus. Bowl it was A i

897
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 2: always was bummed. OUT i ALWAYS i went To Larry

898
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: jones when he was like the guy At fox who

899
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: like paid for bulls and negotiated. Deals i'm, like let's

900
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: get more. Bulls he, goes they all lose, money And i'm,

901
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: like what a. BUMMER i wish we had like ten.

902
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: Bulls and in the, end The bulls felt bigger than they.

903
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Were they're independent. Films they make the artists and the actors,

904
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: happy but most. Don't most are not reservoir, docs, Right

905
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: and so the bull, games you, know made sponsors, happy

906
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: but they didn't sell out and they didn't necessarily get a.

907
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: Rating and so basically it's going to be a hyper

908
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: version Of march. Madness eventually it needs to build up

909
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: the culture and build up you, know like we have

910
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: to get used To december being.

911
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 3: Amazing, No SO i so THAT'S i mean that so

912
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: that that's a really smart kind of way to look at,

913
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 3: it which is the Rich man's college. Basketball but and

914
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 3: again MAYBE i the WAY i like things doesn't mean

915
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 3: it's the right. Way BUT i have to tell, you

916
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 3: IF i were in charge of a sport very far

917
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: down the list of, sports That i'd be, like you know,

918
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: what we should emulate men's college basket where for four

919
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: months people are not all that. Interested and then it

920
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 3: is you do, like and this is this is something

921
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: that maybe the world's changing in that where it is

922
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 3: It's is it more valuable to have everyone's rapped attention

923
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 3: for three weeks and be you, know off the radar

924
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: for forty nine than to have a lot of people's

925
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: pretty and good attention for twelve weeks but to never

926
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: be the. ZEITGEIST i don't, Know like Maybe i've talked

927
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: to our Friend maverick about, this which is is a

928
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: belief that like we are moving to where it's all about,

929
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: events that's, Right he's LIKELY i talked with. Him in college,

930
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: football it'll be an, event, right an event like where

931
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 3: you can have people over and be like we Are

932
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: why he said this is why he thought THE nfl

933
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 3: was so successful is they could make so many games

934
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 3: feel like an event that the you, know The Jake,

935
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 3: Paul Mike, tyson that was an, event a, moment rather

936
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: than inventory of a bunch of. Stuff maybe that's where we're.

937
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: Headed maybe when everything is so, fragmented that's attention you

938
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: need stand. Alone here's the.

939
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: Thing IF i had to, say here's eight things that

940
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: are going to work going. Forward The World, cup The

941
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: olympics depending on, teams The World, Series March, madness THE,

942
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: nfl The College Football, playoff and if you get really

943
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: POPULAR ufc, fighters BIG ufc. Events those will all, work

944
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: and then what's going to struggle is The Major League,

945
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: baseball THE, mls THE nba and THE nhl regular. Season

946
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: fox has tried to inject the game In London Mets

947
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 2: phillies the field of, dreams like that's.

948
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: The rickwood, field the field of. Dreams that's cool and

949
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: and again not to sound like a company, shill the

950
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 3: Way fox made our show The indy five hundred feel.

951
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 3: Huge america. Responded five million people watched it last year seven.

952
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: MILLION i watched. It they watched it, right people were

953
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: in and so that maybe that is the. Answer maybe

954
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 3: it is turning things into. Events that, ALSO i you,

955
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 3: KNOW i pitched this one hundred. Times i'll pitch it

956
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: to you. Here it also is another. Reason and if

957
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 3: anyone ever does, this Because i've been pitching it for a,

958
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: decade just make me some consultant on the. LEAGUE i

959
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 3: still believe there is a market for, boxing AND i

960
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: think that with all This sauty money or whatever it,

961
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 3: is if somebody you would need a few. Billionaires i've

962
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: been talking about this for ten. Years to go to

963
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: the top sixteen fighters in every weight, class and say

964
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: who is your promoter and YOUR, tv whats your who

965
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 3: is your contract? With why you know the reason that

966
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 3: there's seven belts in this and you can't, Fight we're

967
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: buying them all, out everyone, out and here's the. Deal

968
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: we are signing you to the. League our league has

969
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: very simple. Rules you fight four times a. Year you

970
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: have an official. Ranking the. Rank the ranking says if

971
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 3: you are the eighth ranked, fighter you fight the ninth

972
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: ranked fighter In you, know we have monthly pay per.

973
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: Views we have four weight, classes we have one belt

974
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 3: per weight, class and every single pay per view one

975
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: of the belts is going to be on the. Line

976
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: everyone's going to know every month there is a big

977
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: event and guess. What being the heavyweight champion of the

978
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: world is going to mean something again and everyone's going

979
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 3: to know who it is because it's one. Person because

980
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 3: as as much as successful AS ufc has, BEEN i

981
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: still believe that there is a barrier to entry FOR

982
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 3: ufc that does not exist for, boxing which is nobody

983
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 3: ever has been, like, YEAH i don't understand that. Sport with,

984
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 3: boxing it's very fucking. Simple it's, like, hey they're gonna

985
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 3: punch each other and someone might get knocked. Out AND

986
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: i LIKE. UFC i don't think it's that hard to,

987
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: understand but everyone has been, like, OH i don't get,

988
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: it like how is this? Scoring like? What and so

989
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 3: if somebody just Took Dana WHITE'S ufc model and made

990
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: it a boxing. Model and the other free advice here, is, hey,

991
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 3: guys people are worried about judge. CORRUPTION i don't know

992
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 3: how much judges, cost but you know how to make

993
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: sure there's not. Corruption instead of having, three have nine

994
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: and do the figure skating scoring, thing which is the

995
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 3: highest and the lowest scores don't even count and it's

996
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: the seven scorecards done. FIXED i think boxing could be

997
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 3: a big eventing in as. Well LIKE i think people

998
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 3: people are into it if they feel like it's on

999
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: the level and they know the. People you just have

1000
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: to know the people. Involved but there's it's two, says.

1001
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Listen i've gone to more boxing THAN i HAVE,

1002
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 2: ufc AND i say that having the last six years

1003
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: gone to at least THREE ufc fights per. Year so

1004
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 2: WHEN i was In, vegas.

1005
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: You lived In, vegas you used to go every.

1006
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: Week and, Right SO i LOVE, ufc BUT i do

1007
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: Think John jones And connor McGregor were, dynamite and when

1008
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: you take them, out it's looking for there's some GUYS i,

1009
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: like there's five or six Guys i'm really.

1010
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: Into but it.

1011
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: DOES i, mean boxing has always been somewhat beholden like.

1012
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 2: Basketball it's a star driven sport like TWO. A you,

1013
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: know a dynamic or enigmatic or a controversial. Star that's

1014
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: just part Of football's, basically it doesn't. Matter it really doesn't.

1015
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 2: Matter everything else in this. Country, brands market stars, matter everything,

1016
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 2: else including THE, ufc And dana would probably tell you

1017
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 2: that the pay per views For connor McGregor And John

1018
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 2: jones were just different and has nothing to do with.

1019
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 2: Management it's just there are these supernova north star athletes

1020
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Speaker 3: Sports do you let me ask you? One let me

1040
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 3: ask you a football question that we is a dumb

1041
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: kind of more of a dumb SPORTS tv, thing BUT

1042
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 3: i actually want to know what you think of. It

1043
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 3: have The chiefs Become america's team or will that always

1044
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 3: be The?

1045
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: No in, fact The cowboys were tied for third in total,

1046
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 2: audience and that's Because fox puts them on games they

1047
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't, be but because the biggest draws right now

1048
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: are The chiefs and The bills and The ravens and

1049
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: The niners are also big in The. Packers BUT i

1050
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 2: think after this year When dallas wins five to six,

1051
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: games BECAUSE i think they have the worst probably head

1052
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 2: coach in the, league arguably Good. COURT i think he

1053
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: was an average. COORDINATOR i think he's MORE i think.

1054
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: YEAH i, mean certainly the most unproven and the oddest. Hyeah.

1055
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah so my take Is dallas will be the fourth

1056
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: most watch team in the league after this. Year, Now

1057
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: fox may because Of fox promotion and marketing ability and production,

1058
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: values we may be able to prop up The cowboys.

1059
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: Juicy.

1060
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i, Mean fox just does. It fox gives, you

1061
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: like if you Give fox, baseball it just is better

1062
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: than other networks doing. Baseball fox is really good At

1063
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: Eric shanks lived in a. Truck that's how YOUR. Ceo

1064
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 2: everybody has a. Specialty bodenheimer was sales WHEN i was AT.

1065
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 2: ESPN espn could monetize anything. Anything shanks grew up in a.

1066
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: Truck so our production values are. Sensational they always have.

1067
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: BEEN i MEAN i said this a couple of years.

1068
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 2: Ago the five to six hour Live Super bowls from

1069
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: opening moment the pregame show starts to the, end they're,

1070
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: Majestic they're like as good As american television gets for.

1071
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 3: Us live five.

1072
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 2: Hours so SO i Think fox may prop The cowboys,

1073
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 2: up but if you put them on another, network they.

1074
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 2: Wouldn't they wouldn't resonate as. Much but they're Not they're

1075
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 2: not a fun. Team dak is a boring, player a

1076
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: second lower body body. Injury he's not hyper, athletic he

1077
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: doesn't have a big. Arm they have a couple of interesting.

1078
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 2: Receivers they're not to. Watch philadelphia is fun to, Watch

1079
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 2: detroit's fun to, Watch, Buffalo Kansas. City there's some teams

1080
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: in this league THAT I i mean like when the

1081
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 2: receivers are. Healthy houston's fun to watch when the receivers are,

1082
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: Healthy cincinnati's fun to. Watch but, NO i THINK i

1083
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: Think Kansas city is Actually america's.

1084
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 6: Team.

1085
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: ABSOLUTELY i don't think there's any.

1086
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 2: Question AND i would say AND i would, Say buffalo

1087
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: to me feels like number.

1088
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: Two oh.

1089
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: LISTEN i Think buffalo is probably the team people the

1090
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 3: team neutral fans root for the, most BECAUSE i think

1091
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 3: people they look At buffalo not as an, underdog but like,

1092
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: man they gotta get over at some. Point And Josh

1093
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: allen is so, likable and The chiefs have kind of

1094
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 3: become like, villains you, know to a degree all, That but,

1095
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: YEAH i just THINK i think the team that is

1096
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 3: the biggest draw, on the most interesting is The. Chiefs

1097
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: and that the REASON i even asked it is it

1098
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: just speaks to the power of THE nfl that the

1099
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: most popular or most interesting team in the biggest league

1100
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: in the country can be From Kansas, City. Missouri you

1101
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: know WHAT i? Mean like that it isn't think about.

1102
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: This think about.

1103
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: This here's the sixth biggest brands in THE, nfl arguably

1104
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: Now Kansas, City, Buffalo, Baltimore Green.

1105
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: Bay, yeah, Uh San, francisco probably Still. Dallas but still

1106
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: it's Not it's none of The New. York it's not IN,

1107
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 3: la even though The rams are. Good uh, yeah all,

1108
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 3: Right CAN i tell you something else because you'll like.

1109
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 3: IT i don't know if there's something, Else, no, Please

1110
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: i'm Gonna i'm gonna show you. Something so, look so

1111
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: look at this. HERE i don't even know if you'll

1112
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 3: be able to put it. Up see if you can

1113
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: see At.

1114
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: Nick, Right nick, right poker. Trading, okay now back it

1115
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: up for the. Camera go the other.

1116
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: Side turn. Around there we. Go look at, that.

1117
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: SO i the here's the craziest piece of. THIS i

1118
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 3: had to buy this On eBay BECAUSE i signed all

1119
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: these for this, company BUT i didn't get like they

1120
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 3: they're it's trading. Cards so they all got sent out in,

1121
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: sets and the set they sent me didn't have my own,

1122
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: card SO i had to pay like forty. Bucks that's

1123
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 3: the going rate for a Nick Right poker or leaf trading.

1124
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: Card but the REASON i brought it up is, because

1125
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 3: AND i know you'll be excited about. This for, me

1126
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 3: today is the first day of The World series Of,

1127
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: poker and a week from, TODAY i fly To vegas

1128
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: to play in like four. Tournaments So i'm gonna be In.

1129
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: Vegas how much do you take From, well it's a,

1130
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 3: wire but it'll BE i, Mean i'll tell you the

1131
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: Tournaments i'm. Playing So i'm playing in the ten thousand

1132
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 3: Dollars Dealer's. Choice so that's a tournament that it's it's

1133
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 3: one of the most. Prestigious it's gonna be a bunch

1134
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 3: of pros and. Me The Dealer's choice Means. Colin there's

1135
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: twenty two different. Variations there's old school five card, draw

1136
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: there's seven guard stud there's games you never heard, of

1137
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 3: Like badoogie. Badoo, see they're twenty two different games could be,

1138
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 3: played and every seven, hands a different player at the

1139
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: table gets to, Say, okay for the next seven, hands

1140
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 3: we're playing, this and then you gotta play. It so

1141
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 3: that is you have to be able to like you

1142
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 3: have to a know the rules and how to play

1143
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: every single one of the, games and b you have

1144
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: to be able to pick up On oh, wait that

1145
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: person made a grievous mistake on that, game So i'm

1146
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 3: gonna everyone should call that game until that person's out

1147
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 3: here because they're drawing dead at. It it's really like

1148
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,439
Speaker 3: a fascinating. Way So i'm gonna play. That i'm gonna

1149
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 3: play the ten thousand dollars seven guard stud and Then

1150
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: i'm gonna play a fifteen hundred dollars bad, tournament which

1151
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 3: but doogie is you get four cards that to draw a,

1152
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 3: game you need all four suits as low cards as.

1153
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: Possible seems, silly it's. Awesome and Then i'm gonna play

1154
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: what is the silliest tournament And world series of poker,

1155
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: history which is the pot Limit Omaha Double Board Bomb Pop.

1156
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 3: Tournament but that none of that those specifics are more

1157
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: interesting to real poker. Players what is exciting for me

1158
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,480
Speaker 3: is literally as we speak right, now there is a

1159
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 3: a twenty five thousand dollars ten team fantasy draft going

1160
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: on with the WIN i think it's winner take all

1161
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 3: where it's a world series of poker fantasy. Draft so

1162
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 3: it's like football. Players so Like Phil, hellmuth every team

1163
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 3: involved ten ten teams or people put up twenty five,

1164
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 3: grand they sell pieces of it, whatever and then a

1165
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 3: guy Like Phil, hellmuth every team has two hundred dollars in,

1166
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:03,520
Speaker 3: salaries and then they do an auction for the. Players

1167
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 3: and however well you do in the, tournaments is you

1168
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: know how many points you get for your. Team so

1169
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 3: Like phil helm youth will probably go for like one

1170
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 3: hundred bucks or whatever it. Is AND i think there's a,

1171
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 3: chance probably just on a, lark but that somebody pays

1172
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 3: one dollar to draft me to be on their. World

1173
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: there is a poker fantasy team in CASE i bank

1174
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: one of these. Tournaments So i've been While i've been

1175
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 3: talking to, you when you've seen me glance down at my,

1176
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 3: Phone i've been trying to check and see if somebody

1177
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 3: did what is probably bad general managing but spend a

1178
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,639
Speaker 3: dollar to have my results of The World series count

1179
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 3: for their fantasy. Team SO i know all of this

1180
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 3: is very complicated and confusing for people aren't poker, Players

1181
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 3: but for people who are poker, players this is maybe

1182
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 3: the single coolest thing about being me is that because

1183
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: of my, success whatever that is in my professional, Life

1184
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 3: i've got to basically just parachute into part time professional

1185
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: poker player and play with all of the best players

1186
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 3: in the. World AND i love it so. Much and

1187
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 3: The World series starts today And i'll be out there

1188
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 3: in a.

1189
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: Week so is there a resentment in the industry because

1190
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: you've been able to parachute.

1191
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 3: In, no because anybody. Can because that's the great thing about.

1192
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 3: Poker every tournament's open. Entry you just got to fork

1193
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 3: up the, money you know WHAT i.

1194
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: Mean, so LIKE, i IF i asked you so AND

1195
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: i want you you can have hubrius.

1196
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: Confidence IF i said to.

1197
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 6: You truly, publicly how where do you rank in the

1198
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 6: World IF i said to, you are you a top

1199
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 6: thirty poker player in the.

1200
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: World, no, no zero percent, chance zero percent, chance no, no,

1201
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 3: no nowhere close to. That but this is what's so

1202
01:10:55,880 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: interesting about. Poker you want some of them most profitable

1203
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 3: poker players in the, world of WHICH i am not

1204
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: even close to any of, that but are not top

1205
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 3: one thousand. Players they are just good players who only

1206
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 3: play with awful. Players poker's really weird like. That, like

1207
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 3: so here is the part where these tournaments are a different,

1208
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: story because anybody.

1209
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 2: Can it's the opposite of, golf where your score is

1210
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: your score on the. Course it doesn't matter who you play.

1211
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: With. Correct, Correct it's the exact opposite WHERE i where

1212
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 3: WHERE i am very lucky.

1213
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: You play against great, Players, well, no you don't want.

1214
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 3: TO i in these, TOURNAMENTS i play against great, players

1215
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 3: and that's just fun to like test. Myself but as

1216
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 3: far as like cash games or if like you're trying

1217
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,120
Speaker 3: to make, money what you want is to get invited

1218
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: to the games with like the tech, billionaires the retired athletes'

1219
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 3: influencers or whatever it, is, right and those GAMES i

1220
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: can get into a lot of those. Games, now a

1221
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,320
Speaker 3: lot of those games That i've been invited, TO i

1222
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: actually don't, have like the bank roll for him those

1223
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 3: games people are bringing five, six seven hundred thousand dollars to.

1224
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: Them but the actual best players in the world don't

1225
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 3: get invited to those. Games they're, like why would we invite? You,

1226
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: like why would we invite a great player to those?

1227
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 3: Games SO i don't, know it's just it's just WHAT i.

1228
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: LOVE i played poker SINCE i was nine years. Old

1229
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 3: i'm forty and, now LIKE i through WHAT i. DO

1230
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: i know all the best players in the. WORLD i

1231
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: can pick their brain on, stuff AND i you, know

1232
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: in a, Week i'm gonna go To vegas and see

1233
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: HOW i do in some of these. Tournaments it's very.

1234
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: EXCITING i, know it's, nerdy it's so.

1235
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: Exciting you never answered the question how much will you wire?

1236
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: To how much?

1237
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 6: Money, oh like.

1238
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: Like Sixty OH i thought it was going to be

1239
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: like a quarter million or. Something, No, No you've made

1240
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 2: a lot of money planned.

1241
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: Poker i've made a. Lot, YEAH i, Know i've made

1242
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 3: a lot Of, well thank. YOU i shouldn't have said,

1243
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: YEAH i, know but, no because IF i know the those,

1244
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,879
Speaker 3: Tournaments that's WHY i told. You the two big tournaments

1245
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 3: are ten thousand dollars to enter, each so there's Twenty

1246
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 3: there's two more twenty five hundred dollars, tournaments so there's twenty,

1247
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 3: five and then the rest like cash game stuff. Whatever

1248
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: but here's the other thing that's very interesting about this poker,

1249
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 3: world about gambling. WORLD i IF, i by the, way

1250
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 3: IF i wired a quarter of a million dollars to

1251
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: the To, VEGAS I i. DON'T i don't know how

1252
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: much MONEY i would have to make a year for.

1253
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 3: That not to annoy my wife THAT i wired a

1254
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 3: quarter of a million dollars, somewhere but it's a lot

1255
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 3: more THAN i currently. Make and uh, so But i'll

1256
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: tell you a quick story that you'll. Love SO I

1257
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 3: SO i. WENT i was In vegas for something whatever it.

1258
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 3: Was this was like two months. AGO i didn't even

1259
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: THINK i was, going and THEN i, went and it.

1260
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: WAS i was just there A sunday to A. Tuesday

1261
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 3: and That sunday, NIGHT i walked by The aria Or

1262
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 3: i'm is staying in the. Area BUT i walked by

1263
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: the poker room AND i see a GUY i, know

1264
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 3: and oh, oh and THAT ufc fighter WHO i don't,

1265
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 3: Like Colby, covington the GUY i always talked About. Lebron

1266
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 3: they're playing in a private game in the high limit

1267
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 3: room IN. Aria AND i walked by and, say you,

1268
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 3: know and say hello to the. GUY i know, there

1269
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 3: but he's getting ready to leave since AND i was

1270
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 3: just coming in and say hello and, uh and he's, like,

1271
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 3: Oh i'm. Leaving he's, like do you want my? Seat

1272
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: And i'm, like oh, No LIKE i was just saying.

1273
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 3: HI i was, LIKE i DIDN'T i didn't even KNOW

1274
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 3: i was coming To vegas until. Yesterday It's. SUNDAY i was,

1275
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 3: LIKE i have no money, here so thank you the

1276
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 3: guy whose. Game it was credit to this Guy and

1277
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: i'd say his name BECAUSE i want to give him the,

1278
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 3: compliment BUT i don't want to say his name BECAUSE

1279
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 3: i don't know if he'd want this out. There he

1280
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: just flicks me two twenty five thousand dollars chips cool

1281
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 3: and it's like and is, like just text. Me he's,

1282
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 3: Like i'm going to text, you give me your. Number

1283
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 3: he was, like you're good for. IT i know we've never.

1284
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 3: Met he JUST i WAS i knew his buddy who

1285
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 3: was in the, game he maybe knew me from the,

1286
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: show and was just, Like, eh this guy's probably not

1287
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 3: gonna stiff me on fifty thousand dollars and just tossed

1288
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 3: it to me SO i could play in the. Game

1289
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 3: so there is a and now luckily that NIGHT i

1290
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 3: played for a few, HOURS i won like two grand

1291
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: the SO i just gave him, back you, know those

1292
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 3: two chips and cast out whatever it. Was but there

1293
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 3: is a real like almost you, know just, hey in

1294
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: my notes app it says you owe me seventy, grand,

1295
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: like you, know like there's a lot of amongst the

1296
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 3: guys who play a lot like just, Hey i'll spot,

1297
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: you you spot me, this that or the. Other BUT i,

1298
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 3: never even in the, GAMES i never ever ever play

1299
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 3: on credit like. THAT i did that WHEN i played

1300
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 3: was in college and didn't have any, money and it's

1301
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 3: the only Time i've ever really like gotten myself in

1302
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 3: a really bad spot, gambling where so you play on,

1303
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: credit you can gamble money you don't. Have but it's

1304
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 3: just it was so funny just being out In. Vegas

1305
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 3: the GUY i literally shook hands with for the first

1306
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: time ever just tossed me to twenty five thousand others,

1307
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: chips like, okay, well well you're up at the end

1308
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: of the. Night i'm, like, oh you're very.

1309
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 2: You're very mathy. Like to, me playing poker feels like.

1310
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: Punishment it's like the Movie. Papion it's my. PRISON i

1311
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: would JUST i wouldn't know what to. DO i JUST

1312
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 2: i can't sitting.

1313
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:05,520
Speaker 3: Down it so funny when they invite me to. Games

1314
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 3: my Buddy Brent, hanks who sets up all THE tv

1315
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 3: games For, poker go almost every time he invites, me he,

1316
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 3: says he's, like In Tel, coward we've got a seat

1317
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 3: for him. Too i'm, like he's not. PLAYING i was

1318
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: like there AND i was, LIKE i was, Like i'm

1319
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: just telling, you he's not. PLAYING i was, Like I'M

1320
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 3: i Think colin could pick it. Up but it's it's

1321
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 3: not it is not what interests, him it's what interests.

1322
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: Me And i'm so everybody's got like it's very cool

1323
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 2: when you can have a hobby and the hobby becomes

1324
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: lucrative and it's you are you AND i have talked

1325
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: about this privately. Before but it is a revenue stream

1326
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 2: which he can't count on like most revenue, streams but

1327
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: it will be a lifetime revenue stream for you because

1328
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: you're good enough that, you on average will. Win and

1329
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 2: poker is not a game of chance like roulette or

1330
01:17:55,680 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 2: even sports. Betting there are so many factors that Mitigate.

1331
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: Oh it's and it's very hard to be a profitable sports.

1332
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 3: Better and the thing for me, though is, this IF

1333
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 3: i can just be a break even poker, player all

1334
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 3: make money in poker BECAUSE i now get to do

1335
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 3: a lot of cool poker broadcasting, stuff you know WHAT i,

1336
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: mean like calling, events like doing, things and so like

1337
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: THE i can probably put myself in like this ten

1338
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 3: like this ten thousand Dollars Dealer's choice. Tournament what you,

1339
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 3: know in, poker they talk ABOUT ev the expected. VALUE

1340
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 3: i am MINUS ev in that LIKE i am entering

1341
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 3: of the one hundred tournaments of The World series Of

1342
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: poker this. Summer this ten thousand Dollars Dealer's choice is

1343
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:52,520
Speaker 3: probably one of the six hardest, fields meaning more professionals

1344
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 3: versus recreational players of any of. Them and so that

1345
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: is from a financial, perspective that's one of the dumbest

1346
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: TOURNAMENTS i can. Enter BUT i just want to play

1347
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 3: against the best in the world and see How i'm,

1348
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 3: sure like you know WHAT i, Mean LIKE i can

1349
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 3: uh it to, me is worth it to take that?

1350
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: Shot and IF i were to do, well it's just

1351
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: lifetime like bragging rights in that. Tournament and my my

1352
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: only hobby is there's no way to make money it's

1353
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 3: expensive and IT'S i love getting on a plane and

1354
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 3: going To.

1355
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 1: EUROPE i love. It it's my. Favorite the HAPPIEST i

1356
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: am will Be thursday.

1357
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: Night well, yeah And thursday Night i'll be getting on

1358
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: a flight to go see my son who's taking a

1359
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 2: class over, there and we'll go To copenhagen In, london

1360
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: And i'm in my, heaven just going you, know business,

1361
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: class eat glass of, wine the whole thing picked.

1362
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 3: Up it's my.

1363
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 1: Favorite it's my favorite.

1364
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 2: Thing i've told my wife she doesn't like travel as

1365
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: much AS i, do But i've always said, going you, know,

1366
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: Mom british going To. Europe i've got you, know there's

1367
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 2: just a lot of places In. ENGLAND i know where

1368
01:19:58,280 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: to go.

1369
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: If your son In london or In no he's.

1370
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 2: In london And i'm gonna go meet him there and

1371
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 2: Then we're gonna head off To. Copenhagen we. Go we

1372
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 2: tried to go To we went To iceland a couple of.

1373
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 2: Years every couple of, years we try to go somewhere.

1374
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 2: International that to me is and by the, way there's.

1375
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: It you just hemorrhage money.

1376
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: Travel international travel if you want to do it right is,

1377
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 1: uh it's no.

1378
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 3: Jokes but it's WHERE i will agree with, you and

1379
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 3: then it's. It i've never felt LIKE i wasted money

1380
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 3: on a good meal or a good. Vacation, Never i've

1381
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 3: never felt like that. SUCKED i should would have been.

1382
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 3: Better like where, ELSE i don't know a better way

1383
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 3: to spend the money rather than to like see different

1384
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 3: parts of the, world you, know experience different cultures or

1385
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 3: to eat great. Food The london is one of the

1386
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: Places i've never.

1387
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 1: Known my favorite city in the.

1388
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 3: World, see so tell me before we, go BECAUSE i

1389
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 3: know we got to. GO i live In New York.

1390
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 3: City yeah. Right how Is london not Just New york

1391
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 3: with way worse?

1392
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Food, well because it doesn't smell like weed and urine

1393
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 1: everywhere you.

1394
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: WALK i MEAN i probably does a.

1395
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: LITTLE i, THINK i, MEAN i think it is. WELL

1396
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: i mean it's Like zurich And london are like it's

1397
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: a moneyed.

1398
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: Crowd it is incredible, hotels incredible.

1399
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 2: SERVICE i like to. Walk i'm a, Walker so for,

1400
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: me you, KNOW i bring tennis shoes AND i literally

1401
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: every morning get, Up i'll go walk through the parks

1402
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,040
Speaker 2: for two hours and then the cab systems. Amazing you

1403
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: have to train for like four. Years to be A

1404
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: cabby you have to know every street In, london so

1405
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 2: it's a four year. Process so it's like a tour.

1406
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: Guide The cabby's are like a tour, guide so you,

1407
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 2: know you give them ten pounds and you go drive

1408
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: to drive THE i, JUST i just it works for.

1409
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: Me I've i've told my wife. This there's something About.

1410
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 2: London WHEN i, LAND i feel Like i'm. HOME i

1411
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 2: don't even know what it.

1412
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: Is, well isn't? IT i, mean isn't what it? Is

1413
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 3: your mom's from, There.

1414
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah And i've been there enough that but it's it's

1415
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: really it's, uh it just for whatever. Reason i'm sure

1416
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 2: there's somebody that's listening that they go To hawaii every,

1417
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: year they go To greece and it feels the. Same

1418
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: it's just as much fun AS i can.

1419
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: HAVE i love.

1420
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 6: It.

1421
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 3: Well, listen my takeaway from this is tough beat For

1422
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 3: fox because four years from, Now coward is gonna be

1423
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: Like chicago was. Fun what do you think about me

1424
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:42,600
Speaker 3: doing the herd From? London, like what's it gonna what's the? Difference?

1425
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:47,639
Speaker 2: Really it just later in the, Day nick right as, Always,

1426
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: buddy great.

1427
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,800
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1428
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:59,200
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1429
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1430
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1431
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1432
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1433
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1434
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