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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, what a great show we have for you tonight.

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Speaker 1: In just a moment, John McClain when he gets here,

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Speaker 1: we will hear from the general from the Houston Chronicle

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Speaker 1: for a couple of segments. Let's talk about rookie miniicap

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Speaker 1: last week, a little review with John, and what's to

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Speaker 1: come with OTAs which fire up next week. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've been here for offseason conditioning for a while, but

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Speaker 1: now they get to really practice on the field, no pads,

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Speaker 1: practice in the next few weeks, so that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: And also, Darren Fells, tight end for your Texans this

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Speaker 1: soft season, trying to find his way around. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a veteran, he can find his way around, but

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about how he can fit into the softfense.

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Speaker 1: He's a blocking tight end, can't catch the ball as well,

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Speaker 1: played professional basketball overseas. Some interesting stories from him, so

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from him in the third segment. And I

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Speaker 1: want to get to the social media post that really

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Speaker 1: inspired me this week and might have inspired you as well.

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Speaker 1: I will share that with you in the third segment.

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Speaker 1: I hate to do such a long tease, but hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what we do here. It's radio, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: We enjoy it, so it's gonna be a fun one

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Speaker 1: that I'd buckle up and we welcome him in now

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Speaker 1: the General. John mcclaimed from The Houston Chronicle. Okay, John,

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Speaker 1: here we go, Rookie Miniicap last. We gotta know you're

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Speaker 1: out of breath from coming over from six to ten.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna make Well. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: the hus how hard it is to get over here

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Speaker 1: and there in like seven minutes. Thank goodness, I had

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Speaker 1: a police escort. I've done it. Yeah, you and several

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Speaker 1: other people around the country. So anyway, the Rookie Miniicap

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Speaker 1: last week, and we had the well we have the

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Speaker 1: start of OTAs next week, so we're kind of in

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Speaker 1: that no man's land zone. We had media internal days

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Speaker 1: But anyway, your thoughts on what you saw the Rookie camp,

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Speaker 1: because I haven't talked to you on the air since

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Speaker 1: Rookie Cap. The Rookie camp we got to see one day,

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Speaker 1: and you can't tell anything about Lineman, You can't tell

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Speaker 1: anything about special teams. All you can do is watch

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Speaker 1: guys run pass routes and catch the ball or turn

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Speaker 1: and run with them. Everybody was captivated by Kaholly wearing

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Speaker 1: the tight end. There's six to five and a half.

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Speaker 1: He was two fifty two at the combine. Now he

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Speaker 1: looks like me. He's like two sixty five because he

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Speaker 1: is solid muscle. He runs well. When you are a

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Speaker 1: goalkeeper and water polo and you play soccer and basketball's

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Speaker 1: know you've got good hands. So even though he hasn't

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Speaker 1: played as much football, five starts in college, one year

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Speaker 1: in high school, you talk about it upside. They say

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Speaker 1: that about every rookie. This guy's got an upside. He

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Speaker 1: looks the party, kind of looks like Travis Kelsey, Rob Gronkowski.

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Speaker 1: Guys in the sixty five to sixty six range win

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Speaker 1: two sixty two, sixty five. I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: him against the Packers and the Lions when they go

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Speaker 1: one on one. But we're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: see these guys hit anybody tool preseason. And so Johnny Dixon,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver of the undrafted free agent House State,

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Speaker 1: He's got a great opportunity to make it. Here is

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Speaker 1: the third outside receiver competing with Jester Wia, Vincent Smith

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Speaker 1: two yard average in Ohio State, seventeen touchdowns his last

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Speaker 1: looking for an opportunity. Those were the two main guys

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Speaker 1: I watched. Lonnie Johnson looked a little bit out of shape.

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Speaker 1: how many good quarterbacks and wide receivers are gonna be

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Speaker 1: interesting at corner because they've got Crawford as well in

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Speaker 1: the sixth round out of Central Michigan, so they drafted him.

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Speaker 1: They signed Roby. They also have Jermaine Kelly coming back,

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Speaker 1: Brian Gage and Bill O'Brien used the word versatil YEA well,

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Speaker 1: as much as it does some other media types, But

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Speaker 1: the Texans use the word no versatile. They when they

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Speaker 1: lot of people. And what bothers me is when you

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Speaker 1: are a rookie, I don't want to hear about an

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Speaker 1: But that's why I want these young guys. Put him

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Speaker 1: But those guys were drafted to eventually be bookend tackles.

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Speaker 1: V word. Well, I think the V word is there though,

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Speaker 1: Let me give you another vork veterans. Veterans do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't make a rookie. Come in here and learn both sides.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about September, this is the offseason. Titus Howard comes,

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Speaker 1: Matt Collil's not a swinging tackle. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: But you have a veteran left tack and you have

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Speaker 1: Fulton at Kansas City was a better center than guard.

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Speaker 1: So you have different guys veterans who are versatile. Let

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Speaker 1: think the offensive line is gonna be better. Lisa'll start

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Speaker 1: absolutely tough. Hey, we talked about the tight end group,

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Speaker 1: But I think the room is pretty I don't want

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Speaker 1: The room is pretty eclectic. How about that, John, When

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Speaker 1: He's only in year two. You have Aikens who showed

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Speaker 1: gonna have Aikins who average thirteen point two yards of

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Speaker 1: they keep four huff. Now know what position you're gonna

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Speaker 1: What about Glaspia Because Glastpia is gonna play special teams

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Speaker 1: Not that he can play full time tight end, but

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Speaker 1: he might be able to do some tight end stuff

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Speaker 1: what three or four years. They didn't resign him. Somebody

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Speaker 1: sure the reason they signed him. They can throw him

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Speaker 1: So you can't be short at receiver and you're not

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Speaker 1: draft Kyler Murray to redo that offense, and they thought

426
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Speaker 1: maybe they can rely on their defense. Good thing about Peterson,

427
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Speaker 1: he's been a great player, he's been durable. I don't

428
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Speaker 1: think he's ever missed a game. He's a good return guy.

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Speaker 1: But can you imagine egg on your face if you

430
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Speaker 1: had whoever it was, had traded for him, now he

431
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Speaker 1: suspended for six games. Oh, it would be not good,

432
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Speaker 1: not good at all if that news broke after a

433
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Speaker 1: deal was made, particularly a deal that people would have

434
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Speaker 1: understood for a very high draft pick. You're making that deal?

435
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what a punishment to pay, especially when

436
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Speaker 1: you consider the first six games that the Texans have

437
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: on the docket in twenty nineteen. I mean, you need

438
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Speaker 1: to be as good defensively as you could possibly be.

439
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Speaker 1: This just him. What did I shoe Flacco saying I'm

440
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Speaker 1: not a mentor? I'm first of all, Flacco said that

441
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Speaker 1: last year with Lamar Jackson, and people raised the big stink.

442
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: Now he was asked, he says, not my job. My

443
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Speaker 1: jobs to win games, not my job to develop him.

444
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Speaker 1: And the only problem I have with him being honest.

445
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Speaker 1: Now that opens up Locke for the media to ask

446
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Speaker 1: him every chance they get his Flacco helping you, And

447
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Speaker 1: what's he gonna say? No, He's gonna say yes, I'll

448
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Speaker 1: guarantee you if Flacco is a great guy. If they're

449
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Speaker 1: in a film room and he's asking him questions, of

450
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Speaker 1: course he's gonna sure. Now if he asked him to

451
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Speaker 1: stay out and give him pointers after practice, Flacco's got

452
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Speaker 1: to go home to his family. But I think you

453
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Speaker 1: talked about something getting blown out of proportion because at

454
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Speaker 1: the time of year it is, and there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of news right now, at least till the Jets

456
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Speaker 1: fired mccagnet and Peterson got suspended. And I'll guarantee your

457
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Speaker 1: Locke is going to be treated very well by Joe

458
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Speaker 1: Flacco and probably get his job because, really, Mark, when

459
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Speaker 1: you think about it, Flacco hadn't played very well since

460
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Speaker 1: their Super Bowl. That's a really good point. I think

461
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Speaker 1: Flacco is a good quarterback when you've got it going

462
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Speaker 1: on defensively, running game, you got all the other elements going.

463
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Speaker 1: And you can say that about a lot of guys.

464
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Speaker 1: But he's been really good when they have that stuff happening.

465
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Speaker 1: They were a very well balanced team his first five years.

466
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Speaker 1: I saw a thing on the internet yesterday top players

467
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Speaker 1: in the NFL twenty five are under a Number one

468
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Speaker 1: was Patrick Mahomes. Number three was Deshaun Watson. And when

469
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Speaker 1: I saw that list of twenty five. There was a

470
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Speaker 1: lot of great players who are twenty five and under.

471
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Speaker 1: Some been in the league three or four years. How

472
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Speaker 1: about DJ Reader. We visited with him and he's not

473
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Speaker 1: even twenty five until this summer. It isn't amazing, and

474
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Speaker 1: it feels like he's been here a long time. Think

475
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Speaker 1: of the kid Tremaine, what's the kid from Buffalo or

476
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Speaker 1: his brothers? There once Pittsburgh Ones Buffalo and he was

477
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Speaker 1: drafted at nineteen. Yeah, kind of like a mobia Quo.

478
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Speaker 1: You know, Mobia Koy was going into year and he

479
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Speaker 1: was younger than some of the rookies. He was nineteen

480
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Speaker 1: when he was drafted. That is so unusual where you like,

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Speaker 1: I believe that Johnny Dixon is twenty four, and I

482
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Speaker 1: think he is. Maybe I'm wrong. I was looking at

483
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Speaker 1: there's like three or four undrafted rookies who are twenty

484
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Speaker 1: four years. I noticed that too, which means and you

485
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Speaker 1: wonder why they get drafted. Maybe they they got red shirted,

486
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Speaker 1: they got injured, they transferred, and uh. But when you

487
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Speaker 1: see DJ as young as he is right now going

488
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Speaker 1: in and I think it's a good chance he's gonna

489
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Speaker 1: get an extension. I think one reason that Texans didn't

490
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Speaker 1: spend more money is they want to spend it on

491
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Speaker 1: the guys that have proven themselves, like Nick Martin and

492
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Speaker 1: DJ Reader. John, what do you have going out to

493
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Speaker 1: the Chronicle? Aaron Wilson and I are doing a series

494
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Speaker 1: leading up to the start of OTAs about what the

495
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Speaker 1: Texans want to accomplish. Next week we'll have everything from

496
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Speaker 1: the OTAs, and I'm gonna do like so many others,

497
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna do an offseason rankings based on everything

498
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Speaker 1: that's happened up to this point. When does that come out?

499
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Speaker 1: That'll be I think next Thursday. In fact, we can

500
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Speaker 1: talk about it when I see you next Thursday. Sounds good.

501
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Speaker 1: There he is the general, John McClain. Next up, Darren Fells.

502
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 1: You got to hear from this tight end played pro

503
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Speaker 1: basketball overseas? Really interesting guy? Will hear from him? I

504
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: just love that pro basketball stuff, especially when it's for

505
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: all these exotically strange leagues. Strange to us anyway, These

506
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: aren't the NBA. Okay, you can still make a nice living, though,

507
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,959
Speaker 1: apparently playing pro basketball overseas in some spots, especially if

508
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Speaker 1: you know the language, it might be enjoyable. Also, would

509
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Speaker 1: you buy a coaching Legends house for a good price?

510
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: Just a question will address it very quickly. And some

511
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Speaker 1: other things. The tweet that inspired me more than any

512
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Speaker 1: other this week, any other social media post, the most

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Speaker 1: inspirational thing I've seen all week. I will share it

514
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Speaker 1: with you in the next segment. It's Texans All Access.

515
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Speaker 1: So great to have you listening to the show that

516
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Speaker 1: takes you inside the building. NRG State even's Texans All Access.

517
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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermer with you. Great to have your listening now.

518
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Speaker 1: John Harris and I had a chance to catch up

519
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Speaker 1: with Darren Fells tight end for your Texans hard at

520
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: work side of the offseason. It's been around the block

521
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Speaker 1: recently with the Cleveland Browns. He also played professional basketball

522
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Speaker 1: a lot of places. So let's get into it with Fells.

523
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Speaker 1: We asked him about Houston, how he's adjusting. He did

524
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Speaker 1: have one word to describe the weather, and really, it's

525
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: just getting started hot. You ain't seen nothing yet. Yeah's

526
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Speaker 1: tea get worse. I'm used to dry Heaton arizona um,

527
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Speaker 1: but I'll get used to it. And that's the first thing.

528
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Speaker 1: It's just getting used to the new environment. But so far,

529
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Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. Getting to know my teammates and getting

530
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Speaker 1: to know the playbook and everything. It's pretty awesome. Dan,

531
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Speaker 1: you haven't been here. You've been here for a few months.

532
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Speaker 1: I mean I don't even maybe not even that long.

533
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Speaker 1: George Thomas spoke glowing with you, said, kind of getting

534
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Speaker 1: under your wing as you're a veteran and we've seen

535
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Speaker 1: this in quarterbacks. Have An asked about this? Oh, I'm

536
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Speaker 1: not a mentor for the How do you look get

537
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: younger players in this league? Do you look at them

538
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Speaker 1: as Yeah, these are guys that can accept the mentoring.

539
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: Do you look at yourself as a mentor for the

540
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Speaker 1: younger players as you've gotten to this point in your career. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: at this point, I try to be that. Like you said,

542
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Speaker 1: take find one player I can take undneath my wings

543
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Speaker 1: and teach them everything that took me a few years

544
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Speaker 1: to learn. Try to get them on the road, like

545
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Speaker 1: just to learn that a lot quicker than than I

546
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Speaker 1: learned it. Yeah, so JC, he's one of those guys

547
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: I'm trying to take underneath my wing and teach him

548
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: little things here and there that if he wants to listen,

549
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: which it's a great caveat. It's a great caveat. I

550
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: know everybody's ever taught to you wants to get to

551
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: know you as a professional basketball player as well. I mean,

552
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: like this is our first conversation with you in this environment,

553
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: so we got to ask you. I mean, that must

554
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: have been incredible. What an odyssey playing pro ball. All

555
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: the different places you played, it was amazing being able

556
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: to travel the world and play basketball and do something

557
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: that you love. And yeah, it's it's hard to describe

558
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: just being able to go to different countries and experience

559
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: those cultures of foods and everything. At the same time

560
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: being able to play basketball. It's it's pretty awesome. I

561
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: gotta think it's tough in the way that not all

562
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: the facilities are that great and athletic trainers, and I

563
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: mean you're in the NFL now everything's there for you.

564
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: You had to have some rough spots in there some

565
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: of the places. The hardest thing for me was being

566
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Speaker 1: because Americans, we see the physical part of the sport

567
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: is more important, so we do the lifting, the weight training,

568
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: the running, everything like that is seen as a huge

569
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Speaker 1: aspect of the sport. Over there is more of the game,

570
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: like the mental part of it. So when we got

571
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Speaker 1: to go to the weight room to lift, the coach

572
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: is really just telling you just going there and touch

573
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Speaker 1: a weight. Yeah, touch a weight, that's your idea of lifting. Okay,

574
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Speaker 1: how did basketball make you a better football player? Um,

575
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: that's a great question. It's I want to say, hand

576
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: eye coordination is a huge thing for basketball because that's

577
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Speaker 1: all you're pretty much doing passing the ball, catching the

578
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: ball there. But it was more when it comes to

579
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: run route running part of it, it has to do

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Speaker 1: with just being able to find an open gap and

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Speaker 1: getting yourself open, you being able to use your body here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think body position would end up being one because

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Speaker 1: obviously position you play tight enda, body position ends up

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Speaker 1: being a pretty big thing. And I would imagine you

585
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: were probably you're probably banging those trapezoidal lanes and you're

586
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: probably banging inside the world. But I would imagine body

587
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: position is probably a big one for you as well,

588
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: oh for sure. And me not being one of the

589
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: most athletic titans out there, being able to use my

590
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: body is a huge thing, and getting myself open and

591
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: the routes, and then when it comes to pass pro

592
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Speaker 1: it's being able to get my body in front of

593
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Speaker 1: like I'm playing defense, sliding my feet and getting my

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Speaker 1: body in front of someone. What spurred the transition, Darren

595
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: between professional basketball and the NFL missing the physical contact? Yeah,

596
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: like I said, it's it's they didn't see the physical

597
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: part of basketball. Um. And I've always been a bigger

598
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Speaker 1: power forward and I always see myself as a guy

599
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that can run you over if I want to. And

600
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: that's like that. That sounds a lot like football. So

601
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: maybe I should start doing that. Talk to my brother

602
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: and long story, shortages made the transition there, Darren. Playing

603
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: position at tight end is for people that haven't seen

604
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: you play, because we've seen you know, Texas play Cleveland,

605
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: so we got a chance to see you and we did.

606
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: But for fans focused on the Texans, what are the

607
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: Texans getting in you? What the what? Why did the

608
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: Texans make sense for you? And what are the fans

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00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna see when you step on the field. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a far left tackle, as George Thomas did tell us, Yeah,

611
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Speaker 1: but what do you mean by that? What exact? Obviously

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna run first tight end, uh So I pride

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Speaker 1: myself in the run game. Um, so they're definitely gonna

614
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: see me when we have a play where the ball

615
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: is gonna come to my side and you're gonna see

616
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Speaker 1: me putting a lot of effort and I'm gonna be

617
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Speaker 1: blocking those bigger dans that most teams want the tackles,

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Speaker 1: the block I'll be going in there against them. So

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Speaker 1: you definitely are the emergency left tackle. Jordan Thomas has

620
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: relinquished the role to you officially. They asked me to

621
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Speaker 1: get a few kick kick slides on today, so that

622
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Speaker 1: might be you. Definitely a verse a little, there's no

623
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: question about that. And we've seen you. In fact, when

624
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: you signed with the Texans, I did an article and

625
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: I was looking for different things to kind of point

626
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: out about your game. And we had talked about the

627
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: basketball part and be people knew about that. But I

628
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: want to play against Denver where you're you're one on

629
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Speaker 1: one against von Miller. I mean, that's a role for

630
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Speaker 1: a tight end like you don't see that often. The

631
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Speaker 1: tight end. You know, Von Miller's yours. Good luck you're

632
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Speaker 1: one on one and yet you handle them, You handle

633
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: them pretty well much pride you take in that fact that, yeah, okay,

634
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Speaker 1: I'll be a far left tackle, but as a tight

635
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: end that you pass protect like a left tackle. At times,

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Speaker 1: I see that as because it's such a rarity in

637
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Speaker 1: the league. I want to be that one guy that

638
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: everybody sees me out there and they're like, it's not

639
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: a mismatch. I feel most when most linebackers are dnc

640
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: a tight end one on one, they think it's a

641
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: huge mismatch. They think they're gonna make good a sack

642
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: or get right by and make the play. And I

643
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: want them to be able to see eighty seven out

644
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: there and be Okay, it's gonna be work to get

645
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: out there. What's the tight end room like? Now, you

646
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: got Wearing in there as a rookie. You have a

647
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: great guy like Jordan Thomas's a lot of fun to

648
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: be around. That's got to be a good mix with

649
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Will Lyng coaching the group. Now it's it's definitely a

650
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: lot of different characters in there, a lot of different athletes,

651
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of guys who can do different things. And

652
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: it's one of those things I haven't been a part

653
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: of in a while. I mean, a lot of teams

654
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: have a few guys who are the key guys on

655
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: the team. And when you have such a diverse group

656
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: who can pretty much do everything, it's pretty awesome. We

657
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: have a pretty big group as well well, like being

658
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: on the Browns and the Hard Knocks cameras rolling because

659
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: they were here a few years ago. But what was

660
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: that like for you personally? For me, it was terrible.

661
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: I just like going around talking to my teammates having

662
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: fun and being seeing a boom might come up behind

663
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: you when you're just having a conversation. Not very fun.

664
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Speaker 1: But I guess you get used to it after a

665
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: while and you're just starting to ignoring it. But Darren,

666
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: what was what was the for you? What was the

667
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: biggest reason for coming to Houston? Great great team, great program. Um.

668
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: I knew that they were missing a few pieces here

669
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: and there and a few plays here and there, and

670
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: that the story last year would have been a lot

671
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: different and being able to come into a program like

672
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: that is pretty awesome. Um. I'm hoping I can add

673
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: the few pieces that they were missing on offense and

674
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: help get that best drive that they needed. One more

675
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: hoop question for you? Where was your favorite place you played?

676
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Are we saying played or lived? Okay? Give me lived?

677
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Belgium Belgium. Belgium for me was the best place to

678
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: live because coast coast drives too our drive. Um, So

679
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: being able to see the whole country and then you

680
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: can drive to Amsterdam, drive the Germany France like it's

681
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: just like it's still woodlands. Um. That was just pretty awesome.

682
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: Being able to see so many cultures in a day. Um.

683
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: What about having played court experience Mexico was actually one

684
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: of my favorite places. Wow? Yeah, yeah, wow. Everybody's always

685
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: surprised by the answer. What was it about? Just fans, passion,

686
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: just intense it. I guess it was had to do

687
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: more with being able to communicate with all my teammates.

688
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Everybody there was We had three Americans technically Americans, and

689
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: then everybody else on the team were Mexicans. Yeah, but

690
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of them were Mexican American right who had

691
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: dual citizenships. So we'll being able to talk to your

692
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: teammates and have fun and interest actually enjoy other countries.

693
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: You have four or five teammates who you can actually

694
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: hang out, and when you do go out as a team,

695
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: it's like, well, this guy doesn't even speak English, I

696
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: can't really get to know him as much as I

697
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: wanted to interesting. Darren, thanks a lot for joining us,

698
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, thank you. Earlier on the show,

699
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: we had John McClain and he was talking about the

700
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: tight end group and how the numbers could be really

701
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: tight if they only keep three. What do you do

702
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: the two draft royses from last year and the draft

703
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: roys from this year? Kahlle wearing, But what about Darren Fells?

704
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: Can he make the team? Because if you keep four

705
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 1: tight ends, you think he's in the mix. He's a blocker,

706
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: he's been around the block. Wait a minute, pardon the pun,

707
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: but Fells could be very useful in this offense. And

708
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: as we joked, but maybe not much of a joke.

709
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: If you're down to five offensive lineman because of injury,

710
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: he is your emergency left tackle or right tackle or

711
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: swing tackle or whatever. A couple of things to get

712
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: to here. How about Vince Lombardi's house for sale in

713
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay, one of the houses he lived in for

714
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: sale in Green Bay. Pro Football Talk teased it beautifully

715
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: with a great unique item of packer memorabilia, only five hundred,

716
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: ninety nine thousand dollars. Well, it's five nine nine nine

717
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: six hundred grand. Interesting you know, when I was looking

718
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: for houses in the Sugarland area, I looked at a

719
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: house that actually used to belong to Jeff Fisher. Very

720
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: modest home. Nice home, but very modest home used to

721
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: belong to Jeff Fisher. I'd take it before he was

722
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: a head coach, because he was shortly a head coach

723
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: of the Oilers before they left for Tennessee. Okay, John

724
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: Lopez and Landry Locker on in the loop. They both

725
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: asked Johnny and I yesterday. I believe it was about

726
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: our top five moments in team history, which is interesting

727
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: because we're about to unveil the top one hundred moments

728
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: in Texans history, and really these are on and off

729
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: field moments. It'll be a one hundred day countdown to

730
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: kick off, and we're doing it to celebrate the one

731
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: hundredth year of NFL history. But anyway, Lopez's top five

732
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: caught my eye because he puts hop Spins in at

733
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Speaker 1: number three and he calls it DeAndre Hopkins Madden catch

734
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys. Number three, John Lopez, that's a little

735
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: high for that. Now, that is a great moment, don't

736
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: get me wrong. But it's funny because the inaugural win

737
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys is number four, so he actually puts

738
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Speaker 1: Hopspins ahead of the first ever victory in franchise history

739
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: opening night of franchise history. I say, no way, no

740
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: chance can you put that? Just look at those two

741
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: next to each other. The first win over the Cowboys

742
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: is no question bigger because it launched the franchise. And

743
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: what a night that was. That's one of those nights

744
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: where there were seventy thousand people in the building, but

745
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand people say they were there. You know

746
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, there are a lot of

747
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: events like that, sporting or otherwise. Lopez also says the

748
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: what pick six versus since he's the number one moment

749
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: in franchise history. Okay, you know it's funny because having

750
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: the privilege and the joy of being able to call

751
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: these games so interesting. When a moment like that happens,

752
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: I remember it vividly, and all you want to do

753
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: as a play by play announcers get the thing right

754
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: and do it as well as possible. And I just

755
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: remember the ball. It was point blank range and the

756
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: fact that what was able to hold on to it?

757
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: You know, your eye is almost like a camera like whoop.

758
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: You almost overrun the play if you will, because you're

759
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: expecting that ball to either get deflected or get through.

760
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: You don't expect a big defensive end to catch it

761
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: that close and then rumble, stumble bumble into the end zone.

762
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: He didn't rumble and bumble and stumble. I mean he

763
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: ran into the end zone and he got the touchdown,

764
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 1: and it was a beautiful moment. It was ten ten

765
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: at the time. Then he scored to make it seventeen ten,

766
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: and nobody in the world thought the Texans would lose

767
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: at that point. So I agree with him on that.

768
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: I think that one might show up as the top

769
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: all time moment, but we'll just have to wait and

770
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: find out when we name the official moments. And the

771
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Yates to Kevin Walter pass earlier that season always makes

772
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody's top five. I do think first win in Indy

773
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: is a top five moment in twenty fifteen, that season

774
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: might have two of them. The how about Hopkins in

775
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: all these top five moments or top ten anyway, you'd

776
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 1: have to say the hopspins is a top ten moment,

777
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: But the catch against Sinci and the Monday Nighter in

778
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen thrown by TJ. Yates. And how about Yates

779
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: with two top ten moments, maybe two top top five moments. Wow,

780
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: the Hopkins catch against Since in that Monday night game

781
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: is so stellar. Beating an eight no Cincinnati team at

782
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: the time, I mean, come on, that was absolutely ridiculous.

783
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: It was wonderful. Nobody gave the Texans a shot that night,

784
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 1: going into three and five limping, and after the kind

785
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: of start they had with those two blowout losses to

786
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Miami, they eventually made the playoffs. Okay, And

787
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm wondering where the nine game winning streak. Is that

788
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: a moment? That's a thing, though, you can't really call

789
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: that a moment, So I'm not sure how we're going

790
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: to define that. You'll just have to wait and find out.

791
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know if we've

792
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: figured that out yet. A couple of other things here,

793
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: how about the Mick Jagger tweet. Now, I tweeted this out.

794
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: A lot of you have seen this. If you haven't

795
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: seen it, come on, it's Mick Jagger in a rehearsal

796
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: dance studio that kind of roam dancing, not to a

797
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: rolling Stone song. I can't even identify the song. Some

798
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: of you might know what it is. But Jagger seventy

799
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: five years old, just had heart surgery. They've postponed the tour.

800
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: The new dates are out. I believe they'll be in

801
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: Houston now July twenty seventh. But Jagger is moving like Jagger,

802
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 1: and he's seventy five years old, And the way he's

803
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: dancing at seventy five, the way he's dancing at forty

804
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 1: five is really ridiculously impressive. And if you're a little

805
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: more seasoned like me, this is so inspirational. I mean

806
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: to put a smile on my face. It made my

807
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: day to see this video, and I tweeted it out

808
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: with the comment I'm never quitting ever. I mean, that's

809
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: how I feel anyway. But to see that, I mean,

810
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: there's no excuse, right unless you have poor health that

811
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: you can't control. I get it, but there's no excuse.

812
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: There's Mick Jagger at seventy five years old, and I

813
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: know the eye rolls are coming. Mark. He's rich, He's

814
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: got enough money to pay for the best doctors, the

815
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: best treat He's seventy five. Go look at it. It's

816
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous to see what this man can do at

817
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: seventy five years old dancing a ram. Check out my

818
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: Twitter at Texan's Voice or Mick Jagger's Twitter account. And

819
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Speaker 1: here's the other thing, guys, not only in gals. Not

820
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: only is that tweet impressive, but I went down to

821
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Mick jagger Twitter wormhole after that. I don't follow him

822
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: on Twitter, but I checked out his other tweets and

823
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: he lives with passion. That's the key. He does what

824
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: he loves. He lives with passion. McLean and I earlier

825
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: on the show, we're going over advice we'd give to

826
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Speaker 1: graduates because my alma mater tweeted that out. They wanted

827
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: the alums to give advice to the graduates. Find something

828
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Speaker 1: you love to do if you can possibly do it.

829
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Speaker 1: Many of you can't. You're involved at family legations, you

830
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: can't move away from your job whatever. I'm talking about

831
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Speaker 1: the young people who still have a legitimate shot at this.

832
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, a lot of people would say

833
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: you still have a legitimate shot at it as well,

834
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: older person, whoever you are. But the fact is that

835
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: if you live with passion, you might live longer, you

836
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: might live healthier. That's just the way it is now.

837
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Speaker 1: I know Jagger had heart problems, and yes he has

838
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: the money to take care of that with the finest

839
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: doctors available, and apparently he did so good for him there.

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00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: My dad is eighty six years old, by the way,

841
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: and still flies airplanes because that's what he does. That's

842
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: how he rolls. He lives with passion. He does what

843
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: he loves and it's always carried him through. So I

844
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 1: think that certainly helps with his longevity. I just found

845
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: that Jagger tweet to be really inspirational. I hope you

846
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: did too. That's all I'm going to say about that.

847
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, we talk about this with professional athletes.

848
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Speaker 1: You know Tom Brady playing till he's one hundred and

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Speaker 1: four whatever, he's gonna play till. Please retire immediately. Tom,

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Speaker 1: by the way, just for your own health and safety.

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Speaker 1: That's all I really care about with you. Gosh, but

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Speaker 1: golf is the one sport where you can play. We

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Speaker 1: just had the inspirity of here where you can play

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Speaker 1: into your fifties and sixties and still be very relevant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he can be relevant forever. Arnold Palmer is

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Speaker 1: still relevant and he's not even with us anymore, he's

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Speaker 1: probably still on the top five earners in golf because

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Speaker 1: of all the product endorsements and everything else he's involved

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Speaker 1: in business wise, his estate is involved in. That's the

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Speaker 1: kind of sport that is. But I think certain guys,

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Speaker 1: their brands live forever, like Michael Jordan. Obviously, my kid

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Speaker 1: who's thirteen, wears Jordan's. I mean he never watched Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: but he wears Jordan's. He knows Jordan and he loves Jordan.

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Speaker 1: So there's that. Anyway, that's gonna do it for the

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Speaker 1: show tonight. Hope you enjoyed it. John McClain, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Darren Fells, it was great to have him on.

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Speaker 1: John Harris, thanks very much for your contribution as well.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be out in tomorrow. We'll do some special

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Speaker 1: Teams talk, which I know you're thinking. We'll wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: How exciting is this gonna be. We're gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: some of the guys who sweat and grind and put

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Speaker 1: the work in to make Texans special teams really good.

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Speaker 1: They were really good last year. Let's hope it continues

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Speaker 1: into twenty nineteen. With Brad Sealey under that crew, but

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Speaker 1: you'll hear from some of those guys tomorrow, among other things.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.