WEBVTT - David & Goliath

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<v Speaker 1>at a time. Now on with the show. This episode

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<v Speaker 1>was originally broadcast on May 16th, 2019. This is just

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first telephone call, the brand new conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>As we stood there at our kitchen counter listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the recording, with our two-year-old bouncing around the house, we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't have known what was coming.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just now learning how to really bring this

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<v Speaker 2>community together to speak with the government, what that looks

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<v Speaker 2>like legally.

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<v Speaker 1>In just a few weeks, we'd be caught up in

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<v Speaker 1>what looked like a government cover-up. Our house would be

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<v Speaker 1>tracked down by triggered zealots, property vandalized, and unthinkably, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be battling it out with the most powerful people on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. And in the middle of it all, when

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<v Speaker 1>we challenged the behemoth, The one thing that kept crossing

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<v Speaker 1>our minds was, how are we going to beat this giant?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Patrick Karelchi.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Adriana Cortez.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.

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<v Speaker 3>globalists ignore.

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<v Speaker 4>The truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Red Pilled America. How do the small overcome

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<v Speaker 1>the mighty? To find the answer, we're going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story of a time when we, your humble hosts,

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<v Speaker 1>faced off with the most powerful people on the planet,

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. Telling this story also gives you a

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<v Speaker 1>bit more of an understanding of how Adriana and I

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<v Speaker 1>are here with you today. For a husband and wife

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<v Speaker 1>team just starting a family, with no real history in politics,

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<v Speaker 1>facing off with the Obama administration was a surreal experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and one we would have never survived without connecting with

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Breitbart. one of the greatest minds in the history

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<v Speaker 1>of media. Adriana and I were faced with a tough

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<v Speaker 1>decision while standing there at our kitchen counter. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite realize it in the moment, but the choice we

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<v Speaker 1>were about to make would change our lives forever. There'd

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<v Speaker 1>be no turning back, not even if we wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>all because we thought we should do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to the heart of the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to understand the environment at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the summer of 2009, and Congress was headed

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<v Speaker 3>for their annual August recess, that time of the year

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<v Speaker 3>when our politicians leave Washington, D.C., and go back to

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<v Speaker 3>their home district to hear from their constituents. It's typically quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>even uneventful. But on this particular occasion, the country was

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<v Speaker 3>in the grips of a national debate, a debate that

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<v Speaker 3>had gone nuclear wild. I want to know if it's

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of my paycheck.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 6>Your employer supports you.

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<v Speaker 5>I want an answer to the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the money.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming out of my paycheck?

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<v Speaker 5>They've decided that we're just stupid.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want the government to do it for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not a right-wing wacko.

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<v Speaker 3>Obama was pushing for legislation that would require all U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>citizens to buy health coverage or face a fine. In

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<v Speaker 3>the young president's brand-new world, purchasing medical insurance was the

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<v Speaker 3>price tag of being alive. We were being taken one

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<v Speaker 3>step closer to a government takeover of our bodies and

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<v Speaker 3>people weren't having it. At town hall meetings all across

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<v Speaker 3>the nation, people were rejecting Obama's proposal that would forever

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<v Speaker 3>change the healthcare industry. And for good reason. Throughout his

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<v Speaker 3>historic run for the White House, Candidate Obama spoke loudly

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<v Speaker 3>against forcing citizens to purchase health care, otherwise known as

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<v Speaker 3>the individual mandate.

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<v Speaker 7>If a mandate was the solution, we could try that

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<v Speaker 7>to solve homelessness by mandating everybody buy a house. The

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<v Speaker 7>reason they don't have a house is they.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't have the money.

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<v Speaker 3>For roughly two years, time and time again, Obama ridiculed

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<v Speaker 3>his opponents and scoffed at the idea of requiring people

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<v Speaker 3>to buy insurance.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't want to put in a situation.

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<v Speaker 7>in which on the front end we are mandating them,

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<v Speaker 7>we are forcing them to purchase insurance, and if the

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<v Speaker 7>subsidies are inadequate, the burden is on them and they

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<v Speaker 7>will be penalized. And that is what Senator Clinton's plan does.

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<v Speaker 7>John and I have a disagreement. John thinks that the

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<v Speaker 7>only way we get universal coverage is to mandate coverage.

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<v Speaker 7>She believes that we have to force people who don't

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<v Speaker 7>have health insurance to buy it.

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<v Speaker 3>So when he finally won the historic election, everyone, even

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<v Speaker 3>his opponents, thought the idea had been shelved for the

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<v Speaker 3>foreseeable future. But then something happened.

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<v Speaker 9>Ladies and gentlemen, it's important for your own good. You

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<v Speaker 9>need to sit down because I'm afraid I have some

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<v Speaker 9>terrible news. Nation, it's going to be that bad. Because Nation, today,

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<v Speaker 9>the Minnesota Supreme Court ordered that Al Franken be certified

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<v Speaker 9>as a U.S.

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<v Speaker 6>Senator.

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<v Speaker 3>Al Franken became the senator from Minnesota. On election night 2008,

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<v Speaker 3>the former Saturday Night Live comedian had actually on paper

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<v Speaker 3>lost the election by 725 votes. But in a race

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<v Speaker 3>where 2.9 million people voted, the slim margin of victory

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<v Speaker 3>set in motion an automatic recount. After a seven-month legal battle,

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<v Speaker 3>the comedian had somehow flipped the election in his favor

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<v Speaker 3>to win by just 312 votes. It was later reported

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<v Speaker 3>that roughly 1,100 felons illegally cast a ballot in the race,

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<v Speaker 3>just about the same number that flipped the outcome. Prisoners

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<v Speaker 3>voting could turn an election towards the Democrats. Some called foul,

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<v Speaker 3>but nevertheless, Al Franken was announced the winner on June 30, 2009.

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<v Speaker 3>His improbable steal wasn't just any old Senate seat. It

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<v Speaker 3>was the 60th. the magic number giving Obama a filibuster-proof

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<v Speaker 3>majority in Congress. In other words, the president had just

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<v Speaker 3>locked in the power to pass legislation without a single

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<v Speaker 3>vote from the Republicans. With that kind of leverage, he

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<v Speaker 3>went for the big prize, Obamacare, requiring every breathing U.S.

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<v Speaker 3>citizen to have health insurance or else. So shortly after

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<v Speaker 3>Al Franken's victory, the president, along with his top advisor

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<v Speaker 3>and friend Valerie Jarrett, embarked on a national campaign to

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<v Speaker 3>sell the plan he'd spent so long criticizing.

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<v Speaker 10>Without any further ado, I'd like to introduce to you

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<v Speaker 10>the person whose first priority is passing health care reform

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<v Speaker 10>this year. Please welcome to our town hall, President Barack Obama.

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<v Speaker 11>Thank you, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. Thank you, Northern Virginia. It was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be easy. He had the votes. But Obama was about

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<v Speaker 3>to learn otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever there's an imbalance of control, when one group is

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<v Speaker 1>perceived to have too much power, a counter-movement arises with

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate goal of bringing stability back to the system.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Democrats in control of the White House, Congress,

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<v Speaker 1>and now securing a filibuster-proof majority, there was only one

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<v Speaker 1>way to re-establish the balance, and that was to pressure

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat to vote against Obamacare, enter the Tea Party

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<v Speaker 1>stage right.

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<v Speaker 12>Hear our voice!

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<v Speaker 13>Hear our voice!

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<v Speaker 3>Night after night, videos of angry voters confronting Democrat politicians

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<v Speaker 3>went viral. With the advent of social media and the

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<v Speaker 3>smartphone just beginning to infiltrate culture, the mainstream media were

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time losing its grip on crafting the narrative.

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<v Speaker 3>By August 2009, the spectacles were so widespread it became

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<v Speaker 3>impossible for the media to ignore.

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<v Speaker 14>All right, so passions are running high, patience short on

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<v Speaker 14>supply here.

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<v Speaker 8>Let's try to separate the fact from the fiction.

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<v Speaker 3>The young administration was desperately looking for a way to

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<v Speaker 3>change the narrative, and the Tea Party was searching for

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<v Speaker 3>ways to keep the pressure on.

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<v Speaker 1>Around this time, an image went viral.

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<v Speaker 15>Well, a new image of President Obama is making the rounds,

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<v Speaker 15>and it takes his likeness, transforms it into that of

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<v Speaker 15>a comic book arch-villain.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months earlier, I'd seen a poster a couple

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<v Speaker 1>blocks from our house that was striking in that it

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<v Speaker 1>went completely against the groupthink plaguing the art world. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire creative community had been for over two years in

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<v Speaker 1>a seemingly endless climax over their new Messiah, Obama. From

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<v Speaker 1>star-studded tribute songs to PSAs, to countless fashion spreads to

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<v Speaker 1>the famous Obama Hope poster. Artists had become the president's

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<v Speaker 1>euphoric groupies with a devotion that seemed to have no end.

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<v Speaker 1>It was frankly embarrassing, which made the street art posters

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<v Speaker 1>I saw while out in a run through Hollywood all

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<v Speaker 1>the more stunning. It was an image of Obama as

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<v Speaker 1>the Joker from Batman, the Heath Ledger version, with a

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<v Speaker 1>single word below the image.

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<v Speaker 4>Socialism.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to find an artist's name on the poster,

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<v Speaker 1>but all I could see was an indecipherable website in

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<v Speaker 1>one corner. Within no time, maybe even hours, they were

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<v Speaker 1>torn down and months went by with almost no mention

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<v Speaker 1>of them in the media or online. But when August

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<v Speaker 1>2009 crept up, just as the fight over Obamacare raged

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<v Speaker 1>in every enclave of America with fears that it would

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<v Speaker 1>take us closer to socialism, the Joker posters popped up again. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this time they went viral.

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<v Speaker 3>First, conservative radio personality Tammy Bruce saw them near the

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<v Speaker 3>101 freeway in Hollywood and posted pictures of the posters

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<v Speaker 3>on her website. The images spread, eventually finding their way

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<v Speaker 3>onto the Drudge Report. Within days, the media and art

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<v Speaker 3>community took the predictable route in covering the development.

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<v Speaker 10>But on conservative websites, this image is the latest thing.

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<v Speaker 16>Someone took Time magazine's cover.

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<v Speaker 4>And transformed it.

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<v Speaker 14>Hope was changed to joke.

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<v Speaker 3>The image is making its way onto t-shirts.

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<v Speaker 15>On to a few posters alongside a highway ramp in L.A.

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<v Speaker 16>Accompanied by the word socialism, the image got Rush Limbaugh's attention.

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<v Speaker 8>Becoming cool to make fun of Obama.

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<v Speaker 15>Maybe not quite so much in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Yucky.

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<v Speaker 16>Extremely disturbing.

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<v Speaker 4>Stupid.

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<v Speaker 6>Seems kind of childish. Whether you like the guy or not,

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<v Speaker 6>you still don't do that to anybody.

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<v Speaker 16>Shame on them.

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<v Speaker 3>The L.A. Weekly declared, The only thing missing is the noose.

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<v Speaker 3>The Washington Post added about the unknown artist, So why

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<v Speaker 3>the anonymity? Perhaps because the poster is ultimately a racially

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<v Speaker 3>charged image.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the span of years, this Joker poster was the

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<v Speaker 1>only substantial piece of street art that was critical of Obama.

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<v Speaker 1>And I knew this because I was steeped in that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I'd been deeply involved with the art

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<v Speaker 1>world for roughly 15 years. The creator of the famous

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<v Speaker 1>Obama Hope poster was an old business partner of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was cool what he did, but was

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<v Speaker 1>nauseated by the art community's cult-like devotion to Obama, and

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<v Speaker 1>was even more disturbed at the reflexive claim of racism

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<v Speaker 1>towards anyone that dared criticize the first black president. When

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<v Speaker 1>the Joker poster was called racist, I'd had enough. For years,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd wanted to take up writing for several reasons. This

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<v Speaker 1>was as good an opportunity as any to give writing

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<v Speaker 1>a stab. So with Adriana as my editor, I penned

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<v Speaker 1>my very first article chastising the art world for their

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<v Speaker 1>blind allegiance to Obama. We were a bit hesitant to

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<v Speaker 1>try and publish the piece. We made 100% of our

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<v Speaker 1>income from the arts and entertainment industry, a world that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed ubiquitously liberal. Our family came from simple beginnings, and

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<v Speaker 1>as the Jeffersons would say, we were moving on up,

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<v Speaker 1>living the good life in the Hollywood Hills. And we

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<v Speaker 1>still considered ourselves as Democrats. We weren't the racist or

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<v Speaker 1>right-wing nutjobs that the media so often seemed to drum up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd been promoting black and brown artists for almost 15 years.

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<v Speaker 1>Adriana and I are also of Mexican descent. Why should

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<v Speaker 1>we have anything to fear in speaking out? So I

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<v Speaker 1>submitted the piece to a libertarian site I'd recently began reading, Reason.com,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said they'd print it. I was feeling good

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<v Speaker 1>about being published on my first try. The art community

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<v Speaker 1>needed a wake-up call. I closed the essay saying, most

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<v Speaker 1>artists would not want to be referred to as tools

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<v Speaker 1>of the state, but in the case of Obama's administration,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what they've been so far. But what we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know was how quickly that statement would become a

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous reality.

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<v Speaker 11>Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>So after two years of a cult-like devotion to Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>and now hearing the media and art world call the

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<v Speaker 1>Obama Joker poster racist, we'd had enough. We decided to

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<v Speaker 1>publish an essay accusing the creative community of being tools

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<v Speaker 1>of the state and submitted the article to Reason.com. They

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to publish the story. In it, I criticized artists

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<v Speaker 1>for becoming tools of the state. But what we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know at the time was how quickly that statement would

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<v Speaker 1>become a dangerous reality. As we were waiting for the

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<v Speaker 1>article to go live, an invitation popped into my inbox.

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<v Speaker 1>It was from a guy named Yossi Serjant, the new

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<v Speaker 1>communications director of the National Endowment for the Arts, also

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<v Speaker 1>known as the NEA, a federal agency whose mission is

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<v Speaker 1>to support the arts all across the nation with our

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Yossi was the guy behind promoting the Obama Hope poster.

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<v Speaker 3>It's why he got the gig.

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<v Speaker 5>At the NEA.

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<v Speaker 3>We knew of him, on the other hand, as our

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<v Speaker 3>former employee, a savvy young promoter that should be watched.

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<v Speaker 3>The email he sent was an invitation to a White

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<v Speaker 3>House conference call, and it went out to select members

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<v Speaker 3>of the art community. A call has come into our generation,

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<v Speaker 3>read the invite. A call from the top. A call

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<v Speaker 3>from the house that is white. A call that we

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<v Speaker 3>must answer, it dramatically opened. The invite listed several art

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<v Speaker 3>world and media personalities attending the teleconference, as well as

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<v Speaker 3>political activists. And it invited the arts community to help

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<v Speaker 3>Obama with his agenda, with health care being at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the list. The White House wanted the conference

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<v Speaker 3>call attendees to show, quote, how the arts can be

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<v Speaker 3>used for positive change. To a casual observer, it may

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<v Speaker 3>have looked normal, but it wasn't. It smelled like an

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<v Speaker 3>extension of the Obama campaign, which is a big no-no.

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<v Speaker 3>The invite came from the largest funder of arts in America,

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<v Speaker 3>the National Endowment for the Arts, a federal agency that

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<v Speaker 3>provides financial grants to the very same community being invited

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<v Speaker 3>to the meeting. The incoming head of the NEA had

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<v Speaker 3>announced a desire to give grants directly to individual artists.

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<v Speaker 3>NEA funding was historically given to arts groups, not individuals,

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<v Speaker 3>so distributing them directly to artists would be a monumental shift,

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<v Speaker 3>and anyone paying attention in the art world took notice.

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<v Speaker 3>The timing of the invite was also suspect. There was

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<v Speaker 3>a raging national debate over health care, the exact topic

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<v Speaker 3>at the top of the meeting agenda. Was Obama trying

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<v Speaker 3>to dangle federal grants to get artists to create propaganda

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<v Speaker 3>about his health care legislation?

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<v Speaker 1>To add to our suspicion, on the same day the

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<v Speaker 1>invite arrived, Shepard Fairey, Yossi's close colleague and the artist

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<v Speaker 1>that actually designed the Obama Hope poster, penned an article

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<v Speaker 1>for the far-left Huffington Post entitled, Helping Obama Write an

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<v Speaker 1>Unwritten Future. The op-ed urged the art community to help

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<v Speaker 1>the president fulfill his agenda, closing with a subtle call

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<v Speaker 1>to action, stating, quote, Hopefully Obama and all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>who have stood behind him, will do everything we can

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<v Speaker 1>to fill in our incomplete future the way we've pictured it.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, Shepherd Ferry was the art world, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Huffington Post was an outlet of record for that community.

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<v Speaker 1>As I stood at our kitchen counter reading Shepherd Ferry's article,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the White House invitation, the two efforts appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to be coordinated. This was no small deal.

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<v Speaker 3>The National Endowment for the Arts had at the time

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<v Speaker 3>a massive annual slush fund of over $ 200 million that

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<v Speaker 3>it was supposed to distribute to the creative community to

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<v Speaker 3>promote the arts in America, money that could go a

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<v Speaker 3>long way in creating political messages. Obama appeared to be

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<v Speaker 3>politicizing that federal agency, potentially making it into a propaganda

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<v Speaker 3>arm to change the narrative on the healthcare debate he

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<v Speaker 3>was losing. If we were right, what the White House

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<v Speaker 3>was doing was potentially illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>My article went live on Reason.com that day, and as

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who's been published can understand, the very first time

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<v Speaker 1>your words hit the public, it is thrilling. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>besides college papers and press releases, we owned a publicity

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<v Speaker 1>company at the time. I wasn't a writer.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was not.

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<v Speaker 17>An editor.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting pen to paper wasn't our strong suit. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a master's in applied physics, and I worked in aerospace

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<v Speaker 1>designing components for military communication satellites.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had a background in the arts.

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<v Speaker 1>Writing was something brand new to us. We wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get as many eyeballs on the article as possible, so

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<v Speaker 1>I reached out to a website that could possibly promote it.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard about this site called Big Hollywood, better known

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<v Speaker 1>today as Breitbart News. It appeared to publish articles about

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<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry, the arts, that kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it had a marquee section where it hosted off-site links

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the Drudge Report. So I found the submission

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<v Speaker 1>email and sent a quick note with a link to

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<v Speaker 1>the article in hopes that they'd post it. I got

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<v Speaker 1>a response almost immediately from a guy named Andrew Breitbart

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<v Speaker 1>with his cell number and a simple note saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a ring and within minutes I'd felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I'd known him for years. Andrew told me he was

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<v Speaker 1>at some seminar about the Federalist Papers. He thought that

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<v Speaker 1>if he was going to be talking about the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>he felt like he better know everything about it. Andrew's

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<v Speaker 1>energy was contagious. He seemed happy to have found me,

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<v Speaker 1>and said as much in so many words. He told

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<v Speaker 1>me he was part of an underground Hollywood community. Some

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<v Speaker 1>posted on his site, and others were quietly part of

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<v Speaker 1>a secret club. Andrew said he'd introduce me to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>and set me up with an account to publish on

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<v Speaker 1>his site. You'll love it, he said. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people like you. You're not alone. he assured me.

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<v Speaker 1>We spoke for a while about our backgrounds, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I told him what was on my mind, fishing for

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<v Speaker 1>a specific response. I just got an invite to a

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<v Speaker 1>White House conference call, I told him. I'm thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>calling in. You should record it, replied Andrew. That had

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<v Speaker 1>already crossed my mind, but hearing it come out of

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth was the confirmation I was looking for. Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>said he'd post a link to my article, and we

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<v Speaker 1>promised to keep in touch. I got off the phone

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<v Speaker 1>thinking he was right. I mean, the chance that the

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<v Speaker 1>White House was doing anything wrong was slim. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they were, and I was going to write about an

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<v Speaker 1>Obama program that was potentially against the law, I better

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<v Speaker 1>get every single quote right. Before we could even think

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<v Speaker 1>about moving forward, though, we had to answer two questions. First,

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<v Speaker 1>should we record the conference call? It was a decision

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<v Speaker 1>that Adriana and I frankly agonized over. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>government security clearance in the past and took these kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of things seriously. After some deliberation and getting some counsel,

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<v Speaker 1>we came to the conclusion that since press was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the call, a fact announced on the invite,

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<v Speaker 1>and the simple truth that it was being organized by

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<v Speaker 1>a federal agency and the White House, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>expectation of confidentiality. With a call of this nature, we

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even reasonably expect that the White House, or any

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<v Speaker 1>other participant for that matter, would not be capturing the call.

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<v Speaker 1>So our minds were made up. We were going to

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<v Speaker 1>be recording it. But then the second question was, how?

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<v Speaker 1>How would we record it? Now you have to remember,

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<v Speaker 1>this was 2009. The iPhone had just come out two

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier, and we as a culture were all just

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<v Speaker 1>getting to understand the powers of our smartphones. This was

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<v Speaker 1>long before everyone was whipping out their pocket computers to

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<v Speaker 1>capture every confrontation, embarrassing moment, and important event. I'd been

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<v Speaker 1>using the voice memo function on my cell phone for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but wasn't sure if it would work over

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<v Speaker 1>a speakerphone. So Adriana and I began testing it out.

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<v Speaker 6>How are you?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Just keep talking.

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<v Speaker 12>I did the other night. I was wondering if you

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<v Speaker 12>wanted to go to a high school with me and

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<v Speaker 12>park in the neighborhood and not pay and basically the people.

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<v Speaker 18>That live there.

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<v Speaker 19>No.

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<v Speaker 12>Call me back whenever you get a chance and.

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<v Speaker 20>Let me know if you want to buy any more phones.

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<v Speaker 12>I like phones a lot. Hello, I am testing my

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<v Speaker 12>speakerphone again trying really hard once again to see.

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<v Speaker 11>If It's going to work, excuse me, that's my speakerphone,

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<v Speaker 11>my iPhone, if it can record well a speaker conversation.

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<v Speaker 17>I tried to do this earlier.

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<v Speaker 11>It didn't work out that well because I didn't push

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<v Speaker 11>the speaker button. And typically you would need sound to

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<v Speaker 11>come out of a phone to actually record sound. Right

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<v Speaker 11>now I would think that this is a long enough test.

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<v Speaker 1>Music it was clear that my iPhone would do the job.

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<v Speaker 1>So on August 10, 2009, I placed it in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the speakerphone, dialed into the White House conference call,

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<v Speaker 1>and tapped the record button.

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<v Speaker 21>This is Michael Skolnick.

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<v Speaker 18>I am based in New York, and I'm a filmmaker

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<v Speaker 18>for the past 10 years, but currently serve as the

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<v Speaker 18>political director to Russell Simmons.

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<v Speaker 1>We learned almost immediately that the White House and the

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<v Speaker 1>NEA initiated the call.

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<v Speaker 18>I've been asked, by folks in the White House and

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<v Speaker 18>folks in the NEA. About a month ago, a conversation

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<v Speaker 18>that was had, we had the idea that I would

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<v Speaker 18>help bring together the artist community, the independent artist community

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<v Speaker 18>around the country.

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<v Speaker 1>The meeting organizers claimed that they wanted the people on

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<v Speaker 1>the call to get involved with the White House's United

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<v Speaker 1>We Serve initiative. Mike Skolnick stated the goal of the call.

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<v Speaker 18>And so I'm hoping that through this group... And the

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<v Speaker 18>goal of all this, and the goal of this phone call,

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<v Speaker 18>is through this group that we can create a stronger

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<v Speaker 18>community amongst ourselves to get involved in things that we're

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<v Speaker 18>passionate about, as we did during the campaign, but to

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<v Speaker 18>continue to get involved in those things, to support some

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<v Speaker 18>of the President's initiatives, but also... to do things that

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<v Speaker 18>we are passionate about and to push the president. And

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<v Speaker 18>I wanted to give you all the opportunity to hear

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<v Speaker 18>more about United We Serve from the folks who are

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<v Speaker 18>running it, as well as hear from the National Endowment

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<v Speaker 18>for the Arts and Yossi Sargent, who many of us know,

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<v Speaker 18>who has been a true champion during the campaign of

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<v Speaker 18>the arts and as what he's doing over at the

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<v Speaker 18>National Endowment for the Arts and how we can all

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<v Speaker 18>work together to promote and to engage our country in

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<v Speaker 18>service as well as use art in doing so.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman from another federal agency stepped in at one

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<v Speaker 1>point and said that the Obama administration was looking to

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<v Speaker 1>expand the meaning of service.

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<v Speaker 12>We know that we need to expand the base of

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<v Speaker 12>who's serving and also what it means to serve.

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<v Speaker 1>The White House's new definition of service was to create art,

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<v Speaker 1>or what many sane people call propaganda. They introduced the

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<v Speaker 1>next speaker, a White House staffer who worked directly with

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<v Speaker 1>Valerie Jarrett, President Obama's top advisor, the woman helping the

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<v Speaker 1>president sell health care reform to an angry country rejecting

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>his proposal.

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<v Speaker 12>Thanks, Michael, and thanks to everyone for getting on the call.

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<v Speaker 12>We actually were lucky enough to get someone who I'm

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<v Speaker 12>going to introduce first, which is Buffy Wicks, with the

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<v Speaker 12>Office of Public Engagement, who I'm sure many of you

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<v Speaker 12>know from the campaign. She was a... a huge champion

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<v Speaker 12>of getting the arts community involved on the campaign, and

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<v Speaker 12>also has been one of the people who spearheaded this

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<v Speaker 12>initiative from the beginning. So I'll let Buffy say a

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<v Speaker 12>few things first, and then I'll get into the weeds

0:27:12.740 --> 0:27:13.909
<v Speaker 12>on this, if that's okay.

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<v Speaker 20>So, you know, I'm at the Office of Public Engagement

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<v Speaker 20>here at the White House. We have about 20 folks,

0:27:18.430 --> 0:27:21.790
<v Speaker 20>and we work under Valerie Jarrett. She's one of our

0:27:21.810 --> 0:27:22.690
<v Speaker 20>fantastic leaders.

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<v Speaker 1>This effort was spearheaded by the office of President Obama's

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<v Speaker 1>top advisor, Valerie Jarrett. Buffy Wicks continued.

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<v Speaker 20>Now that I'm actually in the White House and working

0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 20>towards furthering this agenda, this very aggressive agenda, I'm really

0:27:37.500 --> 0:27:40.199
<v Speaker 20>realizing that and I'm also really appreciative of the way

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<v Speaker 20>in which that we did win and the way, the

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.139
<v Speaker 20>strategy that the campaign chose, which was really to engage

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.369
<v Speaker 20>people at a local level and to engage them in

0:27:48.380 --> 0:27:51.330
<v Speaker 20>the process because we need them and we need you.

0:27:51.890 --> 0:27:53.270
<v Speaker 20>We're going to need your help and we're going to

0:27:53.290 --> 0:27:56.250
<v Speaker 20>come at you with some specific asks here, but we

0:27:56.290 --> 0:27:58.110
<v Speaker 20>know that you guys are ready for it and eager

0:27:58.130 --> 0:28:00.730
<v Speaker 20>to participate and So one, a thank you, and two,

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<v Speaker 20>I hope you.

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<v Speaker 18>Guys are ready.

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<v Speaker 1>The White House's specific asks were delivered by Yossi Serjant

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<v Speaker 1>of the National Endowment for the Arts.

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<v Speaker 2>I would encourage you to pick something, whether it's health care, education,

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:23.100
<v Speaker 2>the environment. There's four key areas that the corporation has

0:28:23.700 --> 0:28:26.710
<v Speaker 2>identified as the areas of service. And then my ask

0:28:26.750 --> 0:28:33.690
<v Speaker 2>would be to apply artistic, you know, your artistic, creative communities, utilities,

0:28:33.990 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and bring them to the table.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.620
<v Speaker 1>The largest funder of the arts was telling artists to

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<v Speaker 1>create art about healthcare.

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:45.100
<v Speaker 2>To take photos, take video, post it on your blogs,

0:28:45.460 --> 0:28:48.300
<v Speaker 2>get the word out. Like I said, this is a

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>community that knows how to make a stink.

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:50.500
<v Speaker 17>Do it.

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:54.170
<v Speaker 2>Do it within your town. Do it nationally. call on

0:28:54.270 --> 0:28:59.410
<v Speaker 2>other producers, marketers, publicists, you know, artists, people from within

0:28:59.450 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>our community, and get them engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the White House and the nation's largest art

0:29:05.260 --> 0:29:08.420
<v Speaker 1>funder on the phone with the community they funded, telling

0:29:08.460 --> 0:29:12.010
<v Speaker 1>it to take political action on issues under heated national debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I hearing this correctly? Were we actually being told

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<v Speaker 1>to create propaganda?

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<v Speaker 18>This is just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first telephone call of a brand new conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>We are just now learning how to really bring this

0:29:28.220 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 2>community together to speak with the government, what that looks

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.530
<v Speaker 2>like legally. We're still trying to figure out the laws

0:29:36.570 --> 0:29:41.330
<v Speaker 2>of putting government websites on Facebook and the use of Twitter.

0:29:41.350 --> 0:29:42.550
<v Speaker 2>This is all being sorted out.

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<v Speaker 18>We are participating.

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<v Speaker 2>In history as it's being made. So bear with us

0:29:46.700 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>as we learn the language so that we can speak

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.830
<v Speaker 2>to each other safely and we can really work together

0:29:52.870 --> 0:29:55.890
<v Speaker 2>to move the needle to get stuff done.

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<v Speaker 1>Artists speaking together with the government? This didn't sound like

0:30:00.250 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>a service program. It sounded like a campaign rally or

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<v Speaker 1>Mao's China.

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<v Speaker 3>A few days later, an NEA grant recipient that was

0:30:12.270 --> 0:30:15.890
<v Speaker 3>on the call issued a statement demanding Congress support Obama's

0:30:15.910 --> 0:30:21.230
<v Speaker 3>health care overhaul. Another call participant began distributing artwork demanding

0:30:21.290 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 3>health care for all. It was the beginnings of a

0:30:24.980 --> 0:30:31.690
<v Speaker 3>propaganda machine initiated by our tax dollars. As we stood

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:34.820
<v Speaker 3>at our kitchen counter listening to the recording, we began

0:30:34.860 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 3>to realize that we were now in a predicament. Patrick

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 3>had published an article just a few days earlier warning

0:30:41.420 --> 0:30:44.380
<v Speaker 3>that artists were becoming tools of the White House. And

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 3>now we caught that exact fear on tape. We knew

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people participating in the meeting. We were

0:30:50.180 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the organizers' old boss. There were big players from every

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.290
<v Speaker 3>facet of the arts on the call. The media was

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.350
<v Speaker 3>in on it. If we were to be publicly critical

0:30:59.390 --> 0:31:02.790
<v Speaker 3>of this meeting... How would it affect our business? And

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<v Speaker 3>more importantly, how would it affect our family's future?

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<v Speaker 1>My hands started to sweat thinking about whether to go public.

0:31:10.010 --> 0:31:12.650
<v Speaker 1>We were living a comfortable life, making good money from

0:31:12.670 --> 0:31:15.410
<v Speaker 1>the entertainment industry. We knew many of the people in

0:31:15.450 --> 0:31:17.700
<v Speaker 1>our world were liberal, but frankly at the time we

0:31:17.740 --> 0:31:21.140
<v Speaker 1>thought of ourselves as liberal. I was still a registered Democrat.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>We'd even donated to Obama's inauguration fund. If we were

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.540
<v Speaker 1>to speak out now, would we be risking everything? After

0:31:29.580 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>some deliberation, Adriana and I agreed. Whether we liked it

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>or not, we were now involved. We had to expose

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:39.940
<v Speaker 1>the effort. We could not allow a potential propaganda machine

0:31:39.980 --> 0:31:42.770
<v Speaker 1>to be created from our tax dollars. But when we

0:31:42.830 --> 0:31:45.030
<v Speaker 1>made that decision at our kitchen counter to speak out,

0:31:45.610 --> 0:31:48.310
<v Speaker 1>we had no idea what was about to happen to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So with my little iPhone...

0:31:56.290 --> 0:31:58.950
<v Speaker 1>we caught the White House seemingly trying to politicize a

0:31:58.990 --> 0:32:02.610
<v Speaker 1>federal agency. Adriana and I came to the conclusion that

0:32:02.630 --> 0:32:05.390
<v Speaker 1>we were now involved. We had to expose the effort.

0:32:06.090 --> 0:32:08.950
<v Speaker 1>So I penned an op-ed, questioning if Obama was attempting

0:32:08.990 --> 0:32:11.190
<v Speaker 1>to make the National Endowment for the Arts into a

0:32:11.250 --> 0:32:14.670
<v Speaker 1>propaganda machine, a machine to take back control of the

0:32:14.710 --> 0:32:18.670
<v Speaker 1>healthcare debate raging all across the country. I asked readers,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's the place of the NEA to

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>encourage the art community to address issues currently under legislative consideration?

0:32:26.430 --> 0:32:29.250
<v Speaker 1>This was my first long-form article, and I wrote it

0:32:29.290 --> 0:32:31.550
<v Speaker 1>in the form of a story, much like our Red

0:32:31.570 --> 0:32:34.430
<v Speaker 1>Pilled America show. I turned to my new friend Andrew

0:32:34.450 --> 0:32:36.860
<v Speaker 1>Breitbart to see if he'd publish it. He said yes,

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.420
<v Speaker 1>and teamed me up with his editor John Nolte. Andrew

0:32:40.460 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>called a few DC types and was told that by

0:32:42.900 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>hosting the call, the White House may have violated the

0:32:45.660 --> 0:32:48.180
<v Speaker 1>Hatch Act, a law that makes it illegal to use

0:32:48.220 --> 0:32:52.290
<v Speaker 1>federal funds for political activities. Andrew published my article entitled,

0:32:52.580 --> 0:32:55.300
<v Speaker 1>The National Endowment for the Art of Persuasion on Breitbart

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:59.810
<v Speaker 1>News and the conservative blogosphere began immediately buzzing. The first

0:32:59.850 --> 0:33:02.170
<v Speaker 1>to pick it up in cable news was Stuart Varney

0:33:02.190 --> 0:33:03.030
<v Speaker 1>of Fox Business.

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<v Speaker 22>The taxpayer-funded National Endowment for the Arts recently conducted a

0:33:07.790 --> 0:33:11.130
<v Speaker 22>conference call for dozens of artists and filmmakers. But our

0:33:11.170 --> 0:33:14.060
<v Speaker 22>next guest says the agenda on that call seemed a

0:33:14.100 --> 0:33:18.209
<v Speaker 22>lot more political than artistic. He says the NEA and

0:33:18.250 --> 0:33:20.590
<v Speaker 22>the White House and White House officials on the call

0:33:21.070 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 22>encourage the artistic community to use their work to promote

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.340
<v Speaker 22>the Obama team's agenda on issues like health care reform.

0:33:28.020 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 22>Joining us now is the filmmaker and art consultant, Patrick Krilsch. Patrick,

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<v Speaker 22>thanks for joining us. You were on this call. Did

0:33:35.940 --> 0:33:38.750
<v Speaker 22>the Obama officials and the NEA people, did they make

0:33:38.790 --> 0:33:43.010
<v Speaker 22>a direct pitch, hey, get behind Obama's health care reform

0:33:43.050 --> 0:33:45.550
<v Speaker 22>plan and let's spend some taxpayer money promoting it?

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 23>They encouraged us to talk about specific issues, those being

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.820
<v Speaker 23>health care and energy and the environment. Why do you

0:33:52.860 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 23>object to that? Well, the National Endowment for the Arts

0:33:56.420 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 23>was made to promote the arts. It's called the National

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 23>Endowment for the Arts, not to use the arts to

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 23>push issues. And it felt to me when I first

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.259
<v Speaker 23>got the invitation as somewhat of an overreach. We were

0:34:08.279 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 23>also told that everybody on the conference call were people

0:34:10.940 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 23>that supported the Obama campaign.

0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Leading up to the presidency.

0:34:14.580 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 23>And we were told that we knew how to shape

0:34:15.900 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 23>the people's minds, that we knew how to make a

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:21.180
<v Speaker 23>stink like no other community, and we are encouraged to

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 23>do so. So, you know, at the end of this

0:34:23.260 --> 0:34:26.339
<v Speaker 23>conference call, it was very obvious to me what they

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 23>were intending to do. Whether they're successful at doing it

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.549
<v Speaker 23>or not is another case, but I think that's beside

0:34:31.590 --> 0:34:33.650
<v Speaker 23>the point. That's not what the National Endowment for the

0:34:33.710 --> 0:34:36.790
<v Speaker 23>Arts was made for and why it was brought into existence.

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<v Speaker 22>Into existence well for what you heard it sounds an

0:34:41.590 --> 0:34:45.919
<v Speaker 22>awful lot like taxpayer money was they tried to use

0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 22>taxpayer money to support a specific political position by the

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 22>Obama team that's what it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 23>Well they are the largest funder of the arts in

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.030
<v Speaker 23>the United States and they have on this conference call

0:34:59.450 --> 0:35:02.569
<v Speaker 23>the people that they fund and in addition to that

0:35:02.590 --> 0:35:05.930
<v Speaker 23>these are people that were in handpicked they said we

0:35:05.969 --> 0:35:09.219
<v Speaker 23>were selected for a reason And they were handpicked, basically,

0:35:09.780 --> 0:35:13.470
<v Speaker 23>because they were involved in the Obama campaign. I mean,

0:35:13.550 --> 0:35:16.850
<v Speaker 23>they used the Hope poster and the Will.i.am's Yes, We

0:35:16.870 --> 0:35:20.730
<v Speaker 23>Can video as perfect examples of how this community and

0:35:20.750 --> 0:35:24.730
<v Speaker 23>how this group helped elect this man to office. So,

0:35:24.770 --> 0:35:28.240
<v Speaker 23>I mean, when you have this handpicked group and you're

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 23>telling them to speak to certain issues, what do you

0:35:30.500 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 23>think they're going to speak to? I mean, it sounds

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 23>pretty obvious to me.

0:35:33.780 --> 0:35:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Things were about to get heated. Earlier in the day,

0:35:37.020 --> 0:35:40.220
<v Speaker 1>I learned a tenacious reporter at the Washington Times, Carrie Pickett,

0:35:40.700 --> 0:35:44.180
<v Speaker 1>started digging into the story. She contacted the NEA to

0:35:44.420 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 1>ask who invited people to the call.

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:47.260
<v Speaker 6>Carrie?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

0:35:48.180 --> 0:35:52.320
<v Speaker 20>You have Yossi Sirjohn in the communications office.

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:52.759
<v Speaker 11>Okay.

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:53.460
<v Speaker 6>Hello?

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 18>Hi, this is Carrie Pickett.

0:35:55.020 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 21>I'm calling from the Washington Times editorial page.

0:35:57.120 --> 0:35:57.379
<v Speaker 24>Hi, Carrie.

0:35:57.420 --> 0:35:57.730
<v Speaker 17>How are you?

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:58.379
<v Speaker 2>Hi, thank you.

0:35:58.980 --> 0:36:02.180
<v Speaker 18>Hey, I understand that there was a conference call on

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<v Speaker 18>August 10th that the NEA... invited producers, artists, marketers, etc.

0:36:11.070 --> 0:36:11.950
<v Speaker 17>The NEA didn't invite.

0:36:12.010 --> 0:36:14.469
<v Speaker 2>We were a participant in a call that there was

0:36:14.510 --> 0:36:16.110
<v Speaker 2>a third party that did the invitations.

0:36:16.270 --> 0:36:16.649
<v Speaker 24>I see.

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<v Speaker 18>I was wondering if you could send me, if possible,

0:36:19.969 --> 0:36:22.370
<v Speaker 18>a copy of the invitation?

0:36:23.469 --> 0:36:26.070
<v Speaker 2>It didn't come from us, so I don't have it

0:36:26.090 --> 0:36:28.220
<v Speaker 2>to dispute that you would go to them for that.

0:36:29.700 --> 0:36:33.779
<v Speaker 1>Yossi had, unfortunately, made a dumb decision. He lied about

0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:37.020
<v Speaker 1>not sending out the invitations. I clearly had an electronic

0:36:37.060 --> 0:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>version to prove it. But more importantly, by saying the

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>NEA didn't invite people to the conference call, he was

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>suggesting that I was lying. In the new age of Google,

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.990
<v Speaker 1>that could not stand. What could have been a robust

0:36:50.030 --> 0:36:52.930
<v Speaker 1>debate over the proper use of a federal agency was

0:36:52.989 --> 0:36:56.109
<v Speaker 1>now shifting to an attack on my integrity, and now

0:36:56.150 --> 0:36:59.230
<v Speaker 1>there was an appearance of a government cover-up. The conservative

0:36:59.250 --> 0:37:02.450
<v Speaker 1>blogosphere went even more into a frenzy. As the NEA

0:37:02.489 --> 0:37:05.609
<v Speaker 1>propaganda story began to heat up, Andrew Breitbart gave me

0:37:05.650 --> 0:37:08.850
<v Speaker 1>a warning. He called, sounding as he often did, as

0:37:08.910 --> 0:37:11.149
<v Speaker 1>if he were doing three things at once, and told

0:37:11.190 --> 0:37:12.930
<v Speaker 1>me we had a week to blow out the story.

0:37:13.410 --> 0:37:15.779
<v Speaker 1>I'm working on the biggest story of my life, he said.

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.820
<v Speaker 1>We're launching it in about a week. Once it goes live,

0:37:19.100 --> 0:37:21.340
<v Speaker 1>it's going to dominate the news cycle. You'll have a

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.460
<v Speaker 1>hard time breaking through, he added. What story are you

0:37:24.480 --> 0:37:24.940
<v Speaker 1>working on?

0:37:25.260 --> 0:37:25.640
<v Speaker 17>I asked.

0:37:26.180 --> 0:37:30.469
<v Speaker 1>Acorn, he replied. I'd heard recent rumblings about undercover videos

0:37:30.650 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>on the controversial community organizing outfit Acorn. The word was

0:37:34.820 --> 0:37:39.180
<v Speaker 1>that Andrew was working with a young journalist named James O'Keefe. OK,

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:41.819
<v Speaker 1>I said, I'll blow it out by next week. The

0:37:41.860 --> 0:37:44.940
<v Speaker 1>next day, Andrew was guest hosting the Dennis Miller radio show,

0:37:45.140 --> 0:37:46.780
<v Speaker 1>and I went on to ramp up the pressure.

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<v Speaker 13>On the line, I have a very special guest because

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:54.380
<v Speaker 13>it's special because not only has he been community organized,

0:37:54.420 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 13>he's exposed the community organizing at a place that otherwise

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.839
<v Speaker 13>we would not know that the National Endowment of the

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<v Speaker 13>Arts exists. has not just been politicized. The average artist

0:38:07.930 --> 0:38:11.910
<v Speaker 13>in this country that would even be prone towards being

0:38:11.950 --> 0:38:15.670
<v Speaker 13>involved with the NEA is very liberal. But something a

0:38:15.730 --> 0:38:18.850
<v Speaker 13>little bit more nefarious is going on here. We've got

0:38:19.010 --> 0:38:23.450
<v Speaker 13>on the line here Patrick Karelchi. He's a filmmaker, a marketer,

0:38:23.590 --> 0:38:27.460
<v Speaker 13>and an art community consultant based in Los Angeles. And

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<v Speaker 13>he came to my attention when I read a piece

0:38:30.050 --> 0:38:36.589
<v Speaker 13>of his in Reason Magazine's online blog site in which

0:38:36.630 --> 0:38:40.029
<v Speaker 13>he talked about the role of the artist in society.

0:38:40.410 --> 0:38:43.149
<v Speaker 13>And he basically, I could tell, Patrick, you were kind

0:38:43.190 --> 0:38:50.319
<v Speaker 13>of getting creeped out of the uniform pro-government, pro-Obama, you know,

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 13>way that the art community was, you know, being. And

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.140
<v Speaker 13>you wrote, a piece that just said, hey, look, you know,

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.570
<v Speaker 13>I'm not saying that it's wrong to be an Obama supporter,

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<v Speaker 13>but this uniformity, it was creeping you out.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, definitely. It was not only creeping me out, I

0:39:09.690 --> 0:39:13.280
<v Speaker 17>also was a little bit fearful that, you know, the

0:39:13.430 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 17>one guy that comes out and says anything with the

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 17>Joker poster, you know, he was pretty heavily criticized by

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.219
<v Speaker 17>any of the media that was, you know, mainstream media

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.969
<v Speaker 17>that was covering him. And so my fear was that

0:39:26.110 --> 0:39:29.860
<v Speaker 17>with that kind of a resistance coming at him and

0:39:29.900 --> 0:39:33.910
<v Speaker 17>that kind of a criticism was going to... inhibit others

0:39:33.950 --> 0:39:34.390
<v Speaker 17>to come out.

0:39:34.469 --> 0:39:38.060
<v Speaker 13>Well, Patrick, that's the tactic is to call a person

0:39:38.100 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 13>a racist. They didn't even know who he was. They

0:39:40.300 --> 0:39:43.259
<v Speaker 13>didn't know whether he was black or not, but they

0:39:43.340 --> 0:39:46.739
<v Speaker 13>called him a racist. And that's sending a message. It

0:39:46.780 --> 0:39:50.220
<v Speaker 13>doesn't matter if we've gathered evidence, you're a racist. Meaning,

0:39:50.850 --> 0:39:53.330
<v Speaker 13>The worst thing you can call a person in this country,

0:39:53.630 --> 0:39:57.850
<v Speaker 13>obviously not murderer because Teddy Kennedy was just given quite

0:39:57.910 --> 0:40:00.470
<v Speaker 13>the burial. The worst thing you can call a person

0:40:00.489 --> 0:40:02.450
<v Speaker 13>in this country is to call a person a racist.

0:40:02.610 --> 0:40:04.800
<v Speaker 13>It's an intimidation tactic.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, it's an intimidation tactic that up until now I

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:08.779
<v Speaker 17>think has been working pretty well.

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 13>In what you're doing, there's almost no benefit by showing

0:40:13.980 --> 0:40:17.339
<v Speaker 13>common cause with the political right in this country. with

0:40:17.380 --> 0:40:19.899
<v Speaker 13>an art community that leans so heavily to the left

0:40:20.060 --> 0:40:23.460
<v Speaker 13>and behaves punitively towards those who have right-wing things. So

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.390
<v Speaker 13>as a whistleblower, as it were, you're putting yourself in

0:40:27.450 --> 0:40:30.710
<v Speaker 13>harm's way. What is your motivation to put yourself out

0:40:30.770 --> 0:40:34.410
<v Speaker 13>there like this, knowing that there's a possibility that tomorrow

0:40:34.469 --> 0:40:37.790
<v Speaker 13>you may wake up being called a racist by Rahm

0:40:37.810 --> 0:40:38.810
<v Speaker 13>Emanuel's minions?

0:40:39.550 --> 0:40:42.370
<v Speaker 17>You know, I have a two-year-old daughter, and.

0:40:43.969 --> 0:40:46.890
<v Speaker 17>I need to set an example for her, and I

0:40:46.930 --> 0:40:53.060
<v Speaker 17>need to be the kind of father that she will

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:57.060
<v Speaker 17>look up to. And ultimately, I think history will say

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.660
<v Speaker 17>that what I did, and I think the art community

0:40:59.700 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 17>will feel the same way. Certain aspects or certain factions

0:41:03.260 --> 0:41:06.049
<v Speaker 17>of it might be upset with me for stating such

0:41:06.090 --> 0:41:08.049
<v Speaker 17>a thing, but I'll tell you one thing. No one's

0:41:08.090 --> 0:41:10.370
<v Speaker 17>come out and said anything yet. None of that group

0:41:10.410 --> 0:41:13.500
<v Speaker 17>has come out and said anything. Because they know that

0:41:13.580 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 17>setting up a machine like this is not what we

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 17>should be doing with a government agency. I mean, history

0:41:21.100 --> 0:41:25.790
<v Speaker 17>is riddled with examples of how bad something like this

0:41:25.830 --> 0:41:29.250
<v Speaker 17>can go, of how bad the art community coming together

0:41:29.270 --> 0:41:32.990
<v Speaker 17>to speak with the government can turn out. And so

0:41:33.230 --> 0:41:37.870
<v Speaker 17>I think ultimately history will vindicate coming out like this.

0:41:37.950 --> 0:41:40.150
<v Speaker 17>And I really don't see it as whistleblowing. I mean,

0:41:40.170 --> 0:41:42.630
<v Speaker 17>there's a point in time in this country where I

0:41:42.660 --> 0:41:44.360
<v Speaker 17>think if you spoke out on something like this, you

0:41:44.380 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 17>were considered patriotic. And I do think that if they

0:41:50.219 --> 0:41:52.140
<v Speaker 17>were to sit back and think about this and think

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 17>if the opposition to their positions were to get a

0:41:54.860 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 17>hold of something like this, how would they feel about it?

0:41:56.660 --> 0:41:58.989
<v Speaker 17>I mean, if Bush did something like this, There would

0:41:59.010 --> 0:42:02.740
<v Speaker 17>be no question that this would be on every radio

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.899
<v Speaker 17>and television station that there is out there.

0:42:05.020 --> 0:42:07.299
<v Speaker 13>If there was a conference call that the NEA was

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:11.180
<v Speaker 13>being used to create war propaganda, there would have been

0:42:12.290 --> 0:42:17.270
<v Speaker 13>impeachment hearings, 100%. David Mamet to me was a perfect

0:42:17.350 --> 0:42:20.009
<v Speaker 13>example of what you're doing. This is a guy who

0:42:20.070 --> 0:42:23.589
<v Speaker 13>could not have greater credibility within the left, and he

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 13>moved over to the right, and he's been able to survive.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 13>And I think that the message to anyone that's out

0:42:29.460 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 13>there listening that thinks that they're not going to have

0:42:32.380 --> 0:42:34.820
<v Speaker 13>protection if they come out and speak against this stuff,

0:42:35.180 --> 0:42:38.140
<v Speaker 13>because maybe they exist in the middle ground or were

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:39.940
<v Speaker 13>a little bit left and they're starting to get creeped

0:42:40.020 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 13>out by this encroaching community organizing that's going into federal

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.890
<v Speaker 13>government with your taxpayer money and it's starting to look

0:42:47.910 --> 0:42:51.290
<v Speaker 13>like a lot of countries whose fates didn't work out

0:42:51.370 --> 0:42:55.330
<v Speaker 13>so well. Now is the time to come in because

0:42:55.710 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 13>if we don't stand up for it, what Patrick is

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.060
<v Speaker 13>standing up for right now, we may not have those

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.339
<v Speaker 13>First Amendment rights come the next two.

0:43:09.940 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Later that day, the White House issued a statement to

0:43:12.300 --> 0:43:15.980
<v Speaker 1>the Boston Globe claiming I misconstrued the purpose of the call.

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.980
<v Speaker 1>With both the White House and the NEA putting my

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.770
<v Speaker 1>credibility at question, it was time to let the world

0:43:21.850 --> 0:43:25.109
<v Speaker 1>know we had the tapes. We offered Glenn Beck, then

0:43:25.150 --> 0:43:29.270
<v Speaker 1>a rising Fox News star, the first audio clips. He accepted.

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.899
<v Speaker 1>And that night, his audience was the first to hear

0:43:31.940 --> 0:43:35.610
<v Speaker 1>the Obama administration's attempt at politicizing a federal agency.

0:43:35.630 --> 0:43:37.430
<v Speaker 21>I'm going to show you the beginning of something that

0:43:37.630 --> 0:43:39.629
<v Speaker 21>should scare the living daylights out of you.

0:43:39.710 --> 0:43:41.330
<v Speaker 4>It is propaganda in America.

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<v Speaker 21>The National Endowment of the Arts is now holding conference calls.

0:43:48.630 --> 0:43:50.049
<v Speaker 21>I want to lay this out for you, and then

0:43:50.070 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 21>I'm going to bring a guest in. One of the

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 21>guys who was on the conference call felt awkward about

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:57.020
<v Speaker 21>this whole thing. He's a He's an artist and he

0:43:57.060 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 21>felt awkward and decided he was going to tape the

0:43:59.920 --> 0:44:03.069
<v Speaker 21>conference calls. The only reason why we can bring this

0:44:03.110 --> 0:44:06.690
<v Speaker 21>story to you with any credibility is because he did

0:44:06.730 --> 0:44:07.569
<v Speaker 21>the brave thing.

0:44:08.030 --> 0:44:09.470
<v Speaker 4>Probably destroyed his career.

0:44:09.510 --> 0:44:11.370
<v Speaker 21>At least he'll never get a dime from the National

0:44:11.390 --> 0:44:13.350
<v Speaker 21>Endowment for the Arts and probably won't speak to any

0:44:13.410 --> 0:44:15.819
<v Speaker 21>other artist again or they won't speak to him because

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.339
<v Speaker 21>he has betrayed the movement. I'm going to introduce you

0:44:19.540 --> 0:44:22.339
<v Speaker 21>next to the man who received these emails. and more

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 21>of the conference calls, and coincidentally some artwork that happened

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.470
<v Speaker 21>within two weeks of this phone conversation.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.750
<v Speaker 1>Glenn was doing something that no other cable news commentator

0:44:32.790 --> 0:44:35.510
<v Speaker 1>was doing at the time. He was taking deep dives

0:44:35.550 --> 0:44:39.490
<v Speaker 1>into subjects, sometimes spending an entire show on one topic.

0:44:40.210 --> 0:44:43.730
<v Speaker 1>Glenn spent three segments on the NEA scandal, dramatically combing

0:44:43.770 --> 0:44:47.219
<v Speaker 1>through the government's propaganda attempt with Becky and meticulousness.

0:44:48.020 --> 0:44:51.620
<v Speaker 21>Pat Coriel, he is a contributor on Breitbart's Big Hollywood blog,

0:44:51.980 --> 0:44:54.550
<v Speaker 21>a filmmaker, and an art community consultant.

0:44:54.890 --> 0:44:56.609
<v Speaker 4>What does he mean, this community knows how to make

0:44:56.650 --> 0:44:57.730
<v Speaker 4>us stink?

0:44:58.210 --> 0:45:01.910
<v Speaker 23>You know, once again, it's kind of an implied steering

0:45:01.930 --> 0:45:03.790
<v Speaker 23>in a certain direction. I mean, you're talking to a

0:45:04.290 --> 0:45:08.129
<v Speaker 23>crowd that supported Obama. You're talking to a crowd that

0:45:08.250 --> 0:45:12.810
<v Speaker 23>helped that Hope poster. And I listen to that, and honestly,

0:45:13.170 --> 0:45:14.870
<v Speaker 23>I feel kind of bad to have to bring this out,

0:45:14.989 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 23>but facts are bipartisan. And I want the people that

0:45:18.500 --> 0:45:20.420
<v Speaker 23>were on that phone call and others in our community

0:45:20.460 --> 0:45:23.290
<v Speaker 23>to know this is not what the government was meant

0:45:23.350 --> 0:45:25.490
<v Speaker 23>to do, and this is not what the National Endowment

0:45:25.510 --> 0:45:27.650
<v Speaker 23>for the Arts was meant to do. They are there

0:45:28.010 --> 0:45:31.029
<v Speaker 23>to promote the arts, increase access to the arts, and

0:45:31.050 --> 0:45:33.529
<v Speaker 23>be a leader in education in the arts, not to

0:45:33.590 --> 0:45:34.170
<v Speaker 23>push issues.

0:45:41.980 --> 0:45:45.420
<v Speaker 1>Our story came at an opportune time. the administration had

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>just announced an upcoming Obama school speech, an act viewed

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>by his critics as an effort to indoctrinate children with socialism.

0:45:53.580 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>The timing of the two stories helped to amplify the

0:45:56.100 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>importance of each. The NEA scandal helped define a forming narrative,

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:04.860
<v Speaker 1>one of an administration willing to use propaganda to reshape

0:46:04.900 --> 0:46:06.180
<v Speaker 1>the nation in their vision.

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.050
<v Speaker 3>The NEA propaganda story, as it was called, also came

0:46:12.140 --> 0:46:14.970
<v Speaker 3>at a critical time in Glenn Beck's show. For weeks,

0:46:15.210 --> 0:46:18.310
<v Speaker 3>he had been telling the story of an administration implanted

0:46:18.350 --> 0:46:23.390
<v Speaker 3>with radicals. Van Jones, then the White House's green job czar,

0:46:23.850 --> 0:46:27.469
<v Speaker 3>had been a favorite show topic. Jones had a colorful

0:46:27.550 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 3>past as an admitted communist and advocated for reform through revolution.

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>If journalist skeptics dismissed Jones as just an unvetted fluke

0:46:37.300 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 3>in an executive office, the NEA propaganda story would provide

0:46:41.180 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 3>another example to label Obama as a radical.

0:46:44.130 --> 0:46:46.700
<v Speaker 4>Patrick, thank you for your bravery. Thank you.

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 21>I mean, I don't know how popular you're going to

0:46:48.700 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 21>be in the art community now, but God bless you, man.

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.050
<v Speaker 4>Thank you for your bravery, and we'll talk again.

0:46:53.430 --> 0:46:57.049
<v Speaker 3>Our story even got Glenn's chalkboard treatment placed right next

0:46:57.090 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 3>to Van Jones as another question the administration needed to address.

0:47:01.260 --> 0:47:04.470
<v Speaker 21>Demand answers for this. How did Van Jones get his job?

0:47:04.590 --> 0:47:08.130
<v Speaker 21>When did this change from communism happen? We played the

0:47:08.210 --> 0:47:13.569
<v Speaker 21>tape of him in March saying unbelievably communistic things. Who

0:47:13.650 --> 0:47:17.890
<v Speaker 21>at the NEA is working for agenda art? Since when

0:47:17.969 --> 0:47:22.260
<v Speaker 21>does the NEA encourage artists to further not only the agenda,

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 21>but the president and his administration?

0:47:25.219 --> 0:47:28.500
<v Speaker 4>Who's paying for that? Whose idea is that? Who is

0:47:28.540 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 4>the propaganda chief now?

0:47:36.140 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Simultaneously, the Glenn Beck interview incited the administration's grassroots supporters,

0:48:09.820 --> 0:48:13.760
<v Speaker 3>sending them into an organize and attack mode. One started

0:48:13.820 --> 0:48:17.490
<v Speaker 3>a Twitter account inspired by our last name, artfully titled,

0:48:19.830 --> 0:48:23.850
<v Speaker 3>E-mails with colorful language littered our inbox. We woke up

0:48:23.910 --> 0:48:26.709
<v Speaker 3>the morning after the Beck appearance to our car being

0:48:26.830 --> 0:48:31.010
<v Speaker 3>severely keyed. A few days later, a tire was punctured.

0:48:31.830 --> 0:48:35.180
<v Speaker 3>As the story grew, a leftist writer published an article

0:48:35.219 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 3>for the Huffington Post attempting to incite the hip-hop community

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:42.620
<v Speaker 3>against us. A Facebook group was even created to organize

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 3>supporters of the NEA to come after our family. This

0:48:46.820 --> 0:48:51.450
<v Speaker 3>was all 2009 Twitter and Facebook, before online hate mobs

0:48:51.530 --> 0:48:54.569
<v Speaker 3>became a cultural norm, so few knew how to deal

0:48:54.590 --> 0:48:54.969
<v Speaker 3>with this.

0:48:54.870 --> 0:48:55.730
<v Speaker 8>Type of aggression.

0:48:56.210 --> 0:49:00.359
<v Speaker 3>The story had spread beyond conservative circles to the new

0:49:00.500 --> 0:49:06.500
<v Speaker 3>social networks. But conspicuously, the mainstream media ignored the controversy.

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 3>The story had all of the triggers to, in effect,

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:13.060
<v Speaker 3>make it smelling salt for a sleepy newsroom. There appeared

0:49:13.100 --> 0:49:15.550
<v Speaker 3>to be a cover-up with a blatant lie by a

0:49:15.610 --> 0:49:21.870
<v Speaker 3>White House appointee. Federal employees were potentially participating in prohibited activity,

0:49:22.270 --> 0:49:24.959
<v Speaker 3>the White House was involved, and it was all caught

0:49:25.020 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 3>on tape. There was even a direct tie to one

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 3>of President Obama's top advisors, his longtime friend and confidant,

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:37.259
<v Speaker 3>Valerie Jarrett. All of these ingredients should have set the

0:49:37.300 --> 0:49:40.760
<v Speaker 3>mainstream media news cycle into action, but besides a piece

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.910
<v Speaker 3>in the Boston Globe, In the halls of the trusted press,

0:49:44.610 --> 0:49:47.450
<v Speaker 3>it was as if the conference call had never happened.

0:49:48.770 --> 0:49:50.610
<v Speaker 1>As the story began to enter the radars of the

0:49:50.650 --> 0:49:54.890
<v Speaker 1>mainstream outlets, the reason for the silence became apparent. Anita Dunn,

0:49:55.270 --> 0:49:59.190
<v Speaker 1>a top Obama spokesperson, was vigilantly working behind the scenes

0:49:59.330 --> 0:50:03.130
<v Speaker 1>convincing major outlets that the whole affair was not newsworthy.

0:50:03.710 --> 0:50:06.090
<v Speaker 1>The higher-ups want to hold the story until we talk

0:50:06.110 --> 0:50:09.299
<v Speaker 1>to Anita Dunn, one network news reporter told me. Dunn

0:50:09.340 --> 0:50:11.460
<v Speaker 1>wanted to tell them what they were hearing on the audio.

0:50:11.960 --> 0:50:14.479
<v Speaker 1>As a result of her efforts, the mainstream media wouldn't

0:50:14.500 --> 0:50:17.489
<v Speaker 1>yet touch it. As the story continued to heat up,

0:50:17.780 --> 0:50:20.629
<v Speaker 1>Glenn Beck scheduled me for a radio appearance. But just

0:50:20.710 --> 0:50:23.130
<v Speaker 1>seconds before I was about to go live, a major

0:50:23.150 --> 0:50:26.690
<v Speaker 1>story about Van Jones broke, and I was bumped. Conservative

0:50:26.730 --> 0:50:32.070
<v Speaker 1>newsrooms were about to become completely preoccupied. Jones, under fire

0:50:32.110 --> 0:50:35.469
<v Speaker 1>for jokingly referring to Republicans as assholes, was now caught

0:50:35.550 --> 0:50:38.930
<v Speaker 1>in a much more explosive story. His signature appeared on

0:50:38.969 --> 0:50:42.250
<v Speaker 1>a 2004 truther petition that accused the Bush White House

0:50:42.550 --> 0:50:46.290
<v Speaker 1>of deliberately allowing the September 11th attacks to occur. Van

0:50:46.350 --> 0:50:49.790
<v Speaker 1>Jones attempted to distance himself from the inflammatory petition, but

0:50:49.830 --> 0:50:50.410
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work.

0:50:51.030 --> 0:50:53.530
<v Speaker 3>Well, the man who President Obama tapped to help create

0:50:53.630 --> 0:50:56.629
<v Speaker 3>millions of green jobs for the U.S. economy is now

0:50:56.690 --> 0:50:58.050
<v Speaker 3>himself out of a job.

0:50:58.350 --> 0:51:01.969
<v Speaker 1>In the early morning hours of Sunday, September 6th, he resigned.

0:51:02.530 --> 0:51:05.089
<v Speaker 1>In the moment, it wasn't apparent that his resignation had

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:07.950
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with the NEA story. It appeared to

0:51:07.989 --> 0:51:10.950
<v Speaker 1>be just another affair that could push our story out

0:51:10.969 --> 0:51:17.890
<v Speaker 1>of the system. But in reality, the Van Jones resignation

0:51:17.950 --> 0:51:18.790
<v Speaker 1>gave us a boost.

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<v Speaker 3>The mainstream media was portraying the former Green Job czar

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<v Speaker 3>as a victim, with Glenn Beck as a villain. Glenn

0:51:26.180 --> 0:51:30.020
<v Speaker 3>Beck gets first scalp. Van Jones resigns, read a Huffington

0:51:30.060 --> 0:51:33.820
<v Speaker 3>Post headline. The Van Jones resignation itself now became a

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<v Speaker 3>weapon of the left to attack Glenn Beck and characterize

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<v Speaker 3>him as a right-wing Apache riding the Beltway pasture in

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<v Speaker 3>search of new prey. If another Obama official highlighted by

0:51:44.390 --> 0:51:47.790
<v Speaker 3>Glenn were to fall, the Van Jones resignation would effectively

0:51:47.969 --> 0:51:52.870
<v Speaker 3>amplify this new resignation. In the hours immediately after Van

0:51:52.910 --> 0:51:56.700
<v Speaker 3>Jones stepped down, our NEA story made its first peek

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<v Speaker 3>onto network television. on This Week with George Stepanopoulos.

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<v Speaker 19>Recently there was a conference call arranged by the National

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<v Speaker 19>Endowment for the Arts with a representative of the White

0:52:06.430 --> 0:52:10.710
<v Speaker 19>House for potential grantees or actual grantees of the federal

0:52:10.750 --> 0:52:13.650
<v Speaker 19>government getting subsidies. The theme of it was how the

0:52:13.850 --> 0:52:16.750
<v Speaker 19>arts community could help advance the president's agenda. And I

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<v Speaker 19>don't know how many laws that breaks, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 19>there are some.

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<v Speaker 1>The story was on the brink of breaking through. With

0:52:22.900 --> 0:52:26.469
<v Speaker 1>the launch of James O'Keefe's Acorn Undercover Sting looming, I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote another NEA article that included new audio from the

0:52:29.810 --> 0:52:33.029
<v Speaker 1>conference call. Up to this point, both the NEA and

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<v Speaker 1>the White House were doing their best to block coverage

0:52:35.650 --> 0:52:39.110
<v Speaker 1>on the mainstream media. This was possibly the last opportunity

0:52:39.130 --> 0:52:41.370
<v Speaker 1>to get a reaction out of them before the big

0:52:41.550 --> 0:52:45.190
<v Speaker 1>acorn bomb hit. Probably sensing the urgency of the moment,

0:52:45.530 --> 0:52:48.549
<v Speaker 1>Andrew stepped in to boost the story. He first added

0:52:48.610 --> 0:52:51.589
<v Speaker 1>his patented headline flair to the article, pushing it live

0:52:51.630 --> 0:52:54.250
<v Speaker 1>onto Breitbart News, then while manning the wheel at the

0:52:54.290 --> 0:52:57.450
<v Speaker 1>Drudge Report, Andrew linked the conservative powerhouse website to the

0:52:57.550 --> 0:53:01.469
<v Speaker 1>NEA story. Then the godfather of conservative media covered the

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 14>Now what this is all about is the Obama administration

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<v Speaker 14>using the NEA community organizing efforts to help propagandize the

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<v Speaker 14>Obama agenda.

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<v Speaker 6>All of it.

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<v Speaker 3>The following day, Senator John Cornyn of Texas issued a

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:28.140
<v Speaker 3>letter to President Obama calling for congressional hearings. This was mind-blowing.

0:53:28.739 --> 0:53:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Two people that started this citizen investigation from their kitchen

0:53:32.400 --> 0:53:37.280
<v Speaker 3>counter now had Congress pushing for an investigation. It was unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Would the White House or the NEA respond? Would the

0:53:44.110 --> 0:53:47.310
<v Speaker 1>story make an impact before ACORN broke? Would the mainstream

0:53:47.350 --> 0:53:50.459
<v Speaker 1>media finally pick it up? With only 48 hours before

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:54.049
<v Speaker 1>the ACORN story launched, there was little time. The day

0:53:54.110 --> 0:53:56.790
<v Speaker 1>closed with no response from the White House. The next

0:53:56.810 --> 0:53:59.850
<v Speaker 1>day was again met with silence by the Obama administration.

0:54:00.630 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Time's up, I thought. We missed our opportunity. But time

0:54:04.140 --> 0:54:07.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't up. It was just about to get really interesting.

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0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:24.880
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0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:30.180
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So with the story

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.330
<v Speaker 1>of Andrew Breitbart's life about to break and completely occupy

0:54:33.350 --> 0:54:36.210
<v Speaker 1>the news cycle, there was still no response from the

0:54:36.230 --> 0:54:40.150
<v Speaker 1>White House. Time's up, I thought. We missed our opportunity.

0:54:41.210 --> 0:54:44.140
<v Speaker 1>But then it happened. Less than two hours after the

0:54:44.260 --> 0:54:47.180
<v Speaker 1>Acorn story broke, I got an email from my editor,

0:54:47.219 --> 0:54:51.080
<v Speaker 1>John Nolte. The subject line read, Yossi Sergant resigns from

0:54:51.100 --> 0:54:53.790
<v Speaker 1>the NEA. He continued in the body of the email,

0:54:54.010 --> 0:54:56.969
<v Speaker 1>If it's true, it's huge. It turned out only to

0:54:57.010 --> 0:55:01.509
<v Speaker 1>be partially true. The Huffington Post initially reporting Sergant resigned

0:55:01.830 --> 0:55:05.879
<v Speaker 1>modified his position to reassigned. The mainstream media could no

0:55:05.940 --> 0:55:09.380
<v Speaker 1>longer avoid the story. Yossi Sergant the next Van Jones

0:55:09.580 --> 0:55:12.430
<v Speaker 1>was the headline at ABC News. Glenn Beck had me

0:55:12.500 --> 0:55:16.060
<v Speaker 1>back on to update the story. This isn't about Yossi.

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:18.739
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't some rogue guy that called this meeting on

0:55:18.780 --> 0:55:20.900
<v Speaker 1>his own. The White House was on the phone. He's

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a director of communications.

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:25.920
<v Speaker 23>He takes orders from other people. And those are the

0:55:25.980 --> 0:55:27.860
<v Speaker 23>answers that they need to address.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the NEA needs to address.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>This you know what Patrick I thank you.

0:55:32.739 --> 0:55:34.779
<v Speaker 23>Basically talk putting this art group together.

0:55:34.620 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 21>I thank you very much for the I mean it's

0:55:36.180 --> 0:55:38.410
<v Speaker 21>the same old story guys people are expendable they'll just

0:55:38.450 --> 0:55:40.149
<v Speaker 21>discard them they'll move on they just don't want their

0:55:40.170 --> 0:55:43.610
<v Speaker 21>exposed their agenda exposed by the way the left blogs

0:55:43.670 --> 0:55:46.370
<v Speaker 21>are calling this Glenn Beck has another scalp I want

0:55:46.390 --> 0:55:48.690
<v Speaker 21>you to know I personally find that offensive I think

0:55:48.730 --> 0:55:51.200
<v Speaker 21>that's demeaning to Native Americans.

0:55:51.239 --> 0:55:53.860
<v Speaker 1>The National Endowments for the Arts began to crack I

0:55:53.900 --> 0:55:57.259
<v Speaker 1>received a call from its chairman Rocco Landesman almost two

0:55:57.280 --> 0:55:59.239
<v Speaker 1>weeks after I left him a message.

0:55:59.460 --> 0:56:03.310
<v Speaker 3>But with the lying, the cover-up, the attempt to discredit us,

0:56:03.750 --> 0:56:07.150
<v Speaker 3>the vandalism of our property, we didn't trust anyone but

0:56:07.190 --> 0:56:12.950
<v Speaker 3>our tribe. We sensed a shift. It was time to

0:56:12.989 --> 0:56:17.270
<v Speaker 3>prepare one final push to prove we were right all along.

0:56:18.010 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Up to this point, we strategically released segments of the audio.

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:24.560
<v Speaker 3>It was time to publish the whole kit and caboodle.

0:56:25.340 --> 0:56:27.820
<v Speaker 1>Now able to poke his head out from the acorn story,

0:56:28.200 --> 0:56:30.890
<v Speaker 1>Andrew assembled a team to help blow it out. He

0:56:30.950 --> 0:56:33.509
<v Speaker 1>enlisted a young writer by the name of Ben Shapiro,

0:56:33.890 --> 0:56:38.450
<v Speaker 1>another up-and-comer, Dana Loesch, John Nolte, future radio host Larry O'Connor,

0:56:38.690 --> 0:56:41.870
<v Speaker 1>and others to prepare stories to drop immediately after the

0:56:41.910 --> 0:56:45.200
<v Speaker 1>release of the full audio. Then Andrew called on the

0:56:45.260 --> 0:56:47.339
<v Speaker 1>big guns. First, the Godfather.

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<v Speaker 8>And understandably, a lot of people are infuriated about the

0:56:51.219 --> 0:56:56.410
<v Speaker 8>politicization of the NEA and turning it into an Obama campaign.

0:56:56.530 --> 0:56:59.109
<v Speaker 8>I don't know why anybody is surprised about this. There

0:56:59.210 --> 0:57:02.480
<v Speaker 8>hasn't been any evidence up till now, though, of Obama

0:57:02.500 --> 0:57:03.259
<v Speaker 8>being involved in.

0:57:03.219 --> 0:57:07.340
<v Speaker 4>It, just the NEA. But that is until today.

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:12.310
<v Speaker 8>Apparently the full transcript here shows the White House orchestrating

0:57:12.350 --> 0:57:17.530
<v Speaker 8>this through a woman named Buffy Wicks. With the White

0:57:17.570 --> 0:57:21.370
<v Speaker 8>House Office of Public Engagement, the Buffy Wicks works under

0:57:21.470 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 8>Valerie Jarrett, who is at the right hand of Barack Obama,

0:57:27.140 --> 0:57:28.040
<v Speaker 8>the Almighty.

0:57:28.460 --> 0:57:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Then that night, Andrew and I appeared together on the

0:57:31.300 --> 0:57:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Sean Hannity Show.

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 25>And tonight in your America, a seemingly innocent conference call

0:57:35.400 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 25>is now raising major questions about how far the Obama

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 25>administration is willing to go in order to push its agenda.

0:57:41.740 --> 0:57:44.090
<v Speaker 25>And joining me now to talk about the serious misuse

0:57:44.130 --> 0:57:47.950
<v Speaker 25>of power by the administration is artist Patrick Coriel, who

0:57:48.010 --> 0:57:50.830
<v Speaker 25>recorded that conference call and the publisher of big government

0:57:50.870 --> 0:57:53.030
<v Speaker 25>dot com. Andrew Breitbart is back with us. Andrew, it's

0:57:53.050 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 25>been a busy news time for you. Thanks for being

0:57:54.660 --> 0:57:54.890
<v Speaker 25>with us.

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<v Speaker 26>Sean, there is a quid pro quo there. Patrick, in

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 26>its four-part expose, there's a fifth part today where we

0:58:02.780 --> 0:58:05.450
<v Speaker 26>give the whole context of the conference call and that

0:58:05.490 --> 0:58:09.370
<v Speaker 26>the White House was involved. But days after this conference

0:58:09.410 --> 0:58:14.500
<v Speaker 26>call occurred, the net result of that conference call, the ask,

0:58:14.860 --> 0:58:19.420
<v Speaker 26>that the White House talked about started to represent themselves online.

0:58:19.860 --> 0:58:24.460
<v Speaker 26>And at Rock the Vote, there's a full-scale Help the

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:27.940
<v Speaker 26>President's Healthcare Initiative thing. There are multiple, multiple people on

0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 26>the phone call who delivered the goods for President Obama

0:58:31.340 --> 0:58:35.450
<v Speaker 26>in their desire to politicize the NEA and Serve.gov.

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<v Speaker 1>The full court press worked. The context of the full

0:58:39.170 --> 0:58:43.630
<v Speaker 1>audio left high-ranking White House staffers fully vulnerable. an assistant

0:58:43.650 --> 0:58:46.550
<v Speaker 1>to Valerie Jarrett, was implicated in what some would say

0:58:46.590 --> 0:58:49.170
<v Speaker 1>was a violation of the law. It was time for

0:58:49.190 --> 0:58:52.380
<v Speaker 1>the White House to cut their losses. ABC News senior

0:58:52.410 --> 0:58:56.200
<v Speaker 1>White House correspondent Jake Tapper reported that, quote, White House

0:58:56.280 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 1>officials say they are enacting specific steps to make sure

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>such a call never happens again, end quote. It was

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:05.740
<v Speaker 1>the closest thing to an apology that you can get

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:12.590
<v Speaker 1>from the Obama White House. The White House issued new

0:59:12.670 --> 0:59:15.690
<v Speaker 1>federal conduct guidelines, and the chiefs of staffs of the

0:59:15.750 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>executive branch agencies met to discuss rules and best practices

0:59:20.060 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that such a program would never happen again.

0:59:22.820 --> 0:59:28.990
<v Speaker 1>The story broke big time. From NPR News, it's All

0:59:29.030 --> 0:59:29.750
<v Speaker 1>Things Considered.

0:59:29.950 --> 0:59:30.690
<v Speaker 22>I'm Robert Siegel.

0:59:30.950 --> 0:59:33.990
<v Speaker 5>And I'm Madeline Brand, the National Endowment for the Arts.

0:59:34.190 --> 0:59:36.810
<v Speaker 5>It's the largest federal funder of the arts. It's embroiled

0:59:36.890 --> 0:59:39.270
<v Speaker 5>in a controversy, and it all goes back to a

0:59:39.330 --> 0:59:43.030
<v Speaker 5>conference call held in August. In that call, the NEA's

0:59:43.090 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 5>Director of Communications urged artists to use their talents to

0:59:47.100 --> 0:59:49.740
<v Speaker 5>help achieve some of President Obama's goals.

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<v Speaker 3>In light of the controversy, the White House issued an

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:56.180
<v Speaker 3>advisory to federal agencies to take care to avoid even

0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.020
<v Speaker 3>the appearance that politics played a part in the award

0:59:59.040 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 3>of federal grants.

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<v Speaker 15>Independent film producer Patrick Corielsch, who believes many artists have

1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:07.820
<v Speaker 15>become tools of the state, recorded the call. He says

1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:09.320
<v Speaker 15>the mandate was clear.

1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:14.110
<v Speaker 23>They encouraged us to create art on health care, on

1:00:14.530 --> 1:00:17.490
<v Speaker 23>energy and in the environment. And they wanted us to

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<v Speaker 23>bring whatever art network that we had or whatever art

1:00:21.930 --> 1:00:23.750
<v Speaker 23>talent that we had to those issues.

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<v Speaker 15>Ten Republican senators sent a letter to the chairman of

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<v Speaker 15>the NEA concerned taxpayer dollars were being used to promote

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:34.460
<v Speaker 15>the president's legislative priorities. The NEA in a statement said

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<v Speaker 15>some of the language used by the former NEA director

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<v Speaker 15>of communications was unfortunately not appropriate. The White House also

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<v Speaker 15>released a statement saying the conference call was to encourage

1:00:44.010 --> 1:00:48.290
<v Speaker 15>voluntary participation in a national service initiative, adding, quote, we

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<v Speaker 15>regret any comments on the call that may have been

1:00:50.630 --> 1:00:55.410
<v Speaker 15>misunderstood or troubled other participants. But the White House is

1:00:55.510 --> 1:00:58.860
<v Speaker 15>clearly concerned about this. White House Counsel Gregory Craig sent

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<v Speaker 15>a memo to agency heads saying avoid even the appearance

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<v Speaker 15>of impropriety, make sure funding decisions are free of political interference,

1:01:05.540 --> 1:01:09.660
<v Speaker 15>and make sure that engagement with citizens and organizations is even-handed.

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<v Speaker 25>Artists blogged that the White House and the NEA were

1:01:12.700 --> 1:01:16.310
<v Speaker 25>steering artists toward creating works on contentious political issues such

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<v Speaker 25>as health care reform.

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<v Speaker 6>Not good.

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<v Speaker 24>Obama has bypassed the bully pulpit, national media, NASCAR, pro football,

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<v Speaker 24>to use an army of federally subsidized artists to help

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<v Speaker 24>propagandize his socialist agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>CBS News interviewed us for a primetime network story. But

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<v Speaker 1>when the White House caught wind, it took extra precautions

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<v Speaker 1>to end the momentum. That's when I got the call

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<v Speaker 1>from Andrew. He resigned, he said calmly over the phone,

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<v Speaker 1>referring to Yossi Sirjohn's resignation. It's a direct hit, he added,

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<v Speaker 1>and this time it was true.

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<v Speaker 6>The Obama administration's use of federal tax dollars and the

1:02:00.860 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 6>administration's efforts to fund artists chosen to promote the president's

1:02:05.380 --> 1:02:08.740
<v Speaker 6>policies through the National Endowment for the Arts has forced

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<v Speaker 6>the resignation of a top NEA official.

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<v Speaker 1>With this one reported resignation, the story Adrienne and I

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<v Speaker 1>broke gave two of the most powerful conservatives in media,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Beck and Andrew Breitbart, their second and first White

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<v Speaker 1>House appointee scalps, respectively. Two kids from the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of the tracks, whose credibility had been questioned by the

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<v Speaker 1>highest office in the land, us two Davids, had just

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<v Speaker 1>beaten the Goliath, with the help of another David by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Andrew Breitbart. We weren't particularly happy Yossi

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<v Speaker 1>Sergent was forced to step down, We thought the Obama

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<v Speaker 1>administration did him dirty by throwing an obviously talented arts

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<v Speaker 1>advocate under the bus for doing what they told him

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But that's how the powerful roll. They used

1:02:49.270 --> 1:02:52.390
<v Speaker 1>their underlings as pawns, but in the end, he made

1:02:52.450 --> 1:02:56.190
<v Speaker 1>an unforced error that made him expendable. Andrew featured our

1:02:56.230 --> 1:02:59.870
<v Speaker 1>journey in his book Righteous Indignation. He saw the combination

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<v Speaker 1>of our NEA story and the James O'Keefe acorn sting

1:03:02.870 --> 1:03:06.070
<v Speaker 1>happening at the same exact time as a, quote, breakthrough

1:03:06.130 --> 1:03:09.060
<v Speaker 1>moment for new media. He added, but in my mind,

1:03:09.300 --> 1:03:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it seemed that if the ACORN story and the NEA

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<v Speaker 1>story could be paired and weaponized, maximized and forced into

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<v Speaker 1>the eye of the American public, they could serve as

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<v Speaker 1>a case study demonstrating that the new media could supplant

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<v Speaker 1>ye old media. Andrew gave us props at his upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>CPAC speech.

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<v Speaker 16>Much of the conservative movement finds itself on defense all

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<v Speaker 16>the time, prevent defense all the time. Every now and

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<v Speaker 16>then we pick up a fumble at the one yard line.

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<v Speaker 16>and run 100 yards, and we're like, all right, we

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<v Speaker 16>scored a touchdown. Sometimes we even win the game, but

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<v Speaker 16>we're hopelessly on defense. Well, the big sites, I thought,

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<v Speaker 16>I have a great idea. It's like figuring out a

1:03:48.350 --> 1:03:50.890
<v Speaker 16>widget or the cotton gin or something like that and

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<v Speaker 16>getting in. And I thought to myself, why don't we

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<v Speaker 16>go on offense? And that's what we did. We went

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<v Speaker 16>on offense.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you, Hannah and James.

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<v Speaker 4>Heroes, young heroes.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>I continued to write for Breitbart News on and off

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<v Speaker 1>over the coming years, but eventually took a break to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on our publicity business. Andrew enthusiastically supported that work

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<v Speaker 1>as well. When Andrew passed in 2012, it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time that my daughter had seen me cry. Like

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<v Speaker 1>so many others, our time with Andrew Breitbart was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most thrilling moments of my life. He imparted

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<v Speaker 1>more in those intense acts of citizen journalism than I'd

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<v Speaker 1>learned in six years of college. Which leads us back

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<v Speaker 1>to the question, how do the small overcome the mighty?

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<v Speaker 1>The best way to understand how an underdog overcomes overwhelming odds,

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<v Speaker 1>like taking on the White House from a kitchen counter,

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<v Speaker 1>is to think of the world as a game of war.

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<v Speaker 1>The small triumph over the mighty because their ideas, their products,

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<v Speaker 1>their messages become weapons in this conflict. Our NEA story

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<v Speaker 1>helped incite an idea that had already taken root in

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<v Speaker 1>the minds of millions of Americans. The view that the

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<v Speaker 1>media was silent as the Obama administration was attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>make radical changes. It helped reinforce a narrative that the

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<v Speaker 1>White House was willing to politicize federal agencies to get

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<v Speaker 1>its way. Our NEA propaganda story became a weapon to

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<v Speaker 1>resist that effort. It became a social weapon, shared by

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<v Speaker 1>Obama's critics to battle his power grab. The NEA's propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>machine was halted in its tracks before it got off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. and almost nothing political was heard about that

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<v Speaker 1>federal agency throughout the duration of Obama's two terms. But

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<v Speaker 1>this fight continues to this day. Van Jones, who resigned

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<v Speaker 1>in disgrace for his involvement in the 9-11 truther petition,

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<v Speaker 1>has gone on to become a wildly successful CNN pundit.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a whitelash. This was a whitelash against a

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<v Speaker 4>changing country. It was a whitelash against a black president

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<v Speaker 4>in part.

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<v Speaker 1>A little fun fact. Our kids shared a private school

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<v Speaker 1>for many years. Even with his scandalous resignation, Van Jones

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<v Speaker 1>was celebrated at our school campus while we were in

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<v Speaker 1>effect forced to leave the school simply because we were

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<v Speaker 1>voting Republican.

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<v Speaker 20>Mr.

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<v Speaker 1>Jones now has his own weekend CNN show pumping his

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<v Speaker 1>ideas into our living room. Yossi Sergant, the man who

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<v Speaker 1>resigned from the NEA, is largely on the same path

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He is now organizing huge arts events to

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<v Speaker 1>push for universal mental health care, using the tax dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of the Los Angeles County. And it's all legal. The

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<v Speaker 1>left has massive funding from the government and the billion-dollar

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<v Speaker 1>funded media to bombard our culture with their ideas. We

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<v Speaker 1>have you. Thank you for your support through donations and

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