1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: A baseball fan growing up, Isaiah Simmons played center field. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Now in the NFL, he finds himself playing a similar position. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Paul calvic joins me, 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: Simmons is playing safety or deep center field. It's not 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: a new position, but it is a position he'll be 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: playing more than he did in any of his previous 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: three seasons. Also some red and white practice review, Who 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: stood out? What stood out? And it's game Week. The 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: first preseason game is Friday. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: six sixty and it starts now. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd, partner of 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts, Is it 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Azycardinals dot Com Slash podcasts. 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: He's in a ten half of five. He's in again, 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: so more Verry magic. 18 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioloud. 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Going to try to lift the spirits of Paul calvc 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: here on this edition of Cardinals Covered two, presented by Hyundai, 21 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Because it has been a 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: difficult stretch since what Paul, maybe late last week Friday, 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: late afternoon, get the news that well, Kyle doesn't have 24 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: a home. They've got nowhere to go, although maybe a lifeline. 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 1: Earlier on Monday, the ACC I think might be calling. 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: But the kicker was what was announced by the New 27 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: York Jets before practice on Monday here in Arizona, Chris 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: Treveler waived by the Jets. Mandatory Streveler is no more. 29 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean didn't even make it to the end of 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Camp Man Hall of Fame game. 31 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: We saw him out there wasn't really his fault, obviously, 32 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: the lights went out at the beginning of the fourth quarter. 33 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: So he's a little rusty, out of rhythm, and you 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: know it, at least should have been given a chance 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: to redeem himself. And I guess the only question now 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: is did they capture his release on Hard Knocks. We'll see, 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: I guess the debut episode in two days from right now, Paul, 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 3: you know it's not really fair. HBO is going to 39 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: capitalize on Mandatory Leveler and feature them for all the 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: wrong reasons. The salacious, the inside access of him getting 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: released from the team. So we're hoping for the best 42 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: on the CFL legend that is Chris Streveler. I mean, 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: come on, and if you don't know what we're talking about, 44 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: you have to go to Google, go to YouTube and 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: find the clip from the CFL Championship parade where he 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: had on a fur coat and basically was bare chested 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: with the gray cup in hand and there was a 48 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: beverage in the other hand. It's epic. 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: This goes for longtime listeners here and people that follow 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Paul Calvic ding at Paul Calvic. Your breakout players of 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: camp typically don't really how do I put this delicately? 52 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: You can say you're one. He had Tony Jefferson and 53 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: it's been a bit of a drought ever since. Let's 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: put it that way. 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: You attach yourself to a player very early in the 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: offseason and then while you get disappointed once the regular 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: season begins. Although I say this, Treveler did get into 58 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: a game a handful of games for the Arizona Cardinal. 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 3: Now I'm not predicting great regular season success. I'm just 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: saying the breakout player of camp, Okay, someone who comes 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: from off the radar, makes some noise during training camp 62 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: during the preseason. Did he defy the odds and make 63 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: the roster two years in row for the Cardinals. Yes, 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: he did, Craig Grilo, So let's give a little respect 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 3: on Streveler's name. Okay. Now, as for this year, we 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: have Amar de Mercado the running back. We don't really 67 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: know yet exactly what we have until we get to 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: these preseason games, and we'll get to that, and then 69 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: I have Dante Stills on the defensive side. That's what 70 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: I've gone with. One offense, one defense. Now, in hindsight, 71 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: I should have gone with Noahtangii based on the early returns. 72 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: And we saw it again in the red white practice. 73 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: Did we not number eighty one who was now on 74 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: the field on Monday? But number eighty one has consistently 75 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: made play after play after play, and it's taking advantage 76 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: of the reps because zach Ertz is not practicing. Trey 77 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: McBride continues to be a spectator. So you want to 78 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: run two three tight ends in your offense, well you 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: need two to three tight ends to be healthy and available. 80 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: And Tangi I has done nothing but stand out each 81 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: and every practice. 82 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: We're kindred spirits too. He went to Oregon State Oregon 83 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: State on the outside looking in after the demise of 84 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: the PAC twelve thanks to George khloffkoffin company there appreciate 85 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 3: all that, But no A tangy I. I mean he 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: was billed as a blocking tight end. Correct. He's been 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: able to catch the ball really well, some diving catches 88 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: at different times during camp, and then during the Red 89 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: White he caught a slant, gave a head and shoulder 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: fake and then housed it and you're like, okay, wait 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 3: a minute, even run after catch for Noah Tangi I. 92 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 3: So that's intriguing you talk about by low Sell high. 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: That's a guy whose stock has really risen, and he 94 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 3: showed well during the OTAs and during Mini camp. But 95 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: he looks to be a full service tight end right now. 96 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: You can keep him out there in any package. And 97 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: we've seen it all, Greed, I mean, we have literally 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: seen it all. We've seen thirteen personnel, jumbo power bunch 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: sets with three tight ends. We've seen empty backfield Cole 100 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: McCoy and the gun with five wide in the spread. 101 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: It's been a little bit of everything. On offense. 102 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: I joke with you during practice on Monday that I 103 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: had seen more three tight end sets in this practice 104 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: alone than I had seen in the previous four years combined. 105 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: And what were the stats from that analytics sky Kyle Vanenbosch, 106 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: And it was Drew pets in that Cleveland offense led 107 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 3: the league in almost all those categories, right or top five. 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: Number one and thirteen personnel over the last three years 109 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, according to our colleague Kyle Anibasch, who 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: dropped that nuggets on a past episode of the Cardinals. 111 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: Red Sea Report. 112 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, that is something that has certainly stood out 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: and stood out on Saturday's red and white practice, fifteen 114 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: thousand fans in attendance here at State Farm Stadium. Now, 115 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: we also got to mention the catch of the red 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: and white practice, and that was James Connor out leaping 117 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, although afterwards James said, oh, I think Buddha, 118 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: I think he wasn't going one hundred percent. He could 119 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: have taken a different routes and maybe jumped a little 120 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: bit higher, but Connor showing some hands and being able 121 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: to bring down that ball and complete the process of 122 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the catch. He had NFL officials working late last week 123 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and there was a massive celebration, and James Connor did 124 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: his typical touchdown celebration, dropping to his knees, arms up 125 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: in the air, looking up in the sky, and that 126 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: certainly was the highlights if you will of Saturday. 127 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 3: Look, fantasy football owners everywhere, pass up on James Connor 128 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: during your fantasy football draft at your own risk, at 129 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: your own demise. Two years ago, he had eighteen touchdowns. 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: Last year, dealt with some injuries. Obviously, the Cardinals offense 131 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: got sideways. You had ten different starting offensive line combinations. 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: If you can fix that offensive line, and all indications 133 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: are the Cardinals are on the path to doing exactly that. 134 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: There is no doubt with that O line, plus this 135 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: philosophy that James Connor is going to flourish a Pro 136 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: Bowl two years ago, there's no reason he couldn't do 137 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: the same this year. He's going to get an unbelievable 138 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: amount of touches if he stays healthy, and he really 139 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: he is a weapon running it or catching it, and 140 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: he loves to tell you that he can catch it. 141 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: We had him a couple of years ago on the 142 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: Big Red Rage and Wolf sort of went down the 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: line of questioning that he's more of a power back 144 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: and I'm passing downs he might not be in the 145 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: game or in the huddle, and he stepped right in 146 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: and said, no, I'm a three down back. You want 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: to throw it to me. I know, as a guy 148 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: who got recruited to Pitt originally got offered I think 149 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: as a junior in high school as a defensive lineman. 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: By the time he was done with his high school career, 151 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: he was an unbelievable running back, and so they changed 152 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: his position. But his freshman year a pit he actually 153 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: still played some d line with Aaron Donald, played on 154 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball before they made him a 155 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: full time, full time running back. And we know the 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: rest is history. But yeah, here's the guy who prides 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: himself on that. Two years ago at Chicago, he made 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: that one handed stab right near the Cardinals sideline and 159 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury himself just started springing down the white stripe 160 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: with James Connor on a forty yard catch and run 161 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: a touchdown in Chicago. That was an unbelievable catch in 162 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: that game, which by the way, was raining, and he 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: still made the one adigraph. 164 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: Connor's hands in the passing game certainly stood out and 165 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: It was a surprise to all of us here in 166 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: Arizona how much he was able to do it with 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers prior. It wasn't a lot, But to 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: your point, James was like, no, no, no, I can 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: do this. And as soon as the coaching staff saw 170 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: it and saw it on a consistent basis, they would 171 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: go back to it. Now this new coaching staff, who knows, 172 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: especially with the number of wide receivers, number of tight ends, 173 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: maybe you don't need a lot of that running back 174 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: in the passing game. But if nothing else, it's the 175 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: threat of a running back coming out of the backfield 176 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: that now all of a sudden, defensively, you have to 177 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: keep your eye on number six or whomever it might 178 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: be in at the game. 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 3: And what's interesting, you saw this at the Red Whitest 180 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: Cardinals come out in a power formation and then all 181 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: of a sudden, the motion. There's a lot more motion 182 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: in this year's offense. And a James Connor could be 183 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 3: seven yards behind a Colt McCoy who's under center, and 184 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they'll motion and there's Connor in 185 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: the slot, and there's Colt McCoy in the gun. So 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: it's really interesting to watch and what sort of stress 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: is that going to put on a defense and if 188 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: Connor has that ability to catch it like that on 189 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: a consistent basis, And yes, I agree with you, Craig. 190 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: We've seen enough of it. Defenses should be aware that 191 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: the Cardinals can utilize him in that capacity as a 192 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: slot receiver. You think of him as such a power 193 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: running back, but you do have that ability to go 194 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: with that sort of personnel group and that formation, and 195 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: it really allows to keep an offense keep a defense 196 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 3: on their toes. What is Kyle Shanahan and do a 197 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: lesser degree, Sean McVay do so well, and you see 198 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: it twice a year. They're able to keep a defense. Honest, 199 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: you never seemingly see the same thing twice. And they'll 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: go on a certain tendency and then the next time 201 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: you play him it'll be totally different. You can't try 202 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: the tendencies. And so if this offense, in this scheme 203 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 3: can achieve some of that, it's just advantage offense and 204 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: I think it'll really serve this team well. 205 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: So Saturday's Red and White practice, we talk about a 206 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: standout player. We talk about the hit or the catch 207 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: of the practice. Now, let's talk about the hit of practice, 208 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: which gives us lead into our main topic conversation here 209 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: on Cardinals cover two percented by Hyundai, partner of the 210 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and that is the hit that Isaiah Simmons 211 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: more of a shoulder block if you will, because they 212 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: weren't tackling to the ground, but he dropped Rondell more 213 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and from our vantage point, not sure Rondell got up, 214 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: if there were words or if it was more of 215 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: a okay, tip of the cap a nod, though James 216 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: Connor did come over, and I'm sure it was not something. 217 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't know how much pleasantries were exchanged between offense 218 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: and defense, but that is something that at how much 219 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: can we expect that physicality from an Isaiah Simmons when 220 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: which we've we've seen here so far in training camp 221 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: he is playing well off the line of scrimmage, playing 222 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: deep center field. But yeah, Isaiah can still lay in 223 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: the lumber. 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: You know, once upon a time, back when we were kids, 225 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: you had those deep safeties who put the fear of 226 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 3: God into receivers. Great Roy Green still half jokes that 227 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: his golf swing has never been the same since he 228 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 3: got drilled by Ronnie Lott that his right shoulder has 229 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 3: just never quite been the same. So if you wanted 230 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: to go across the middle or run a route down 231 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 3: the seams, you did so with half an eye. I 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: knew exactly was playing deep safety. Isaiah Simmons is an 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: intimidating dude at six foot four, with his size and 234 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: strength and speed. You can't tell me that guys running 235 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 3: across the middle or running a deep post aren't gonna 236 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: think twice about where is number nine? So was that 237 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: hit which was a point of contention with the offense, 238 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: There's no doubt was that evidence of a new mentality 239 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: by Isaiah Simmons. Is that something that he's gonna try 240 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: and put on film starting with the preseason and make 241 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: receivers aware of that. You know, we'll see. I will 242 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: say this to follow up on that. I was upstairs 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 3: in the booth and watching after the first team's left 244 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 3: and the second teams came on, and Ron del Moore 245 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: was sitting on the bench and Isaiah Simmons came over. 246 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 3: I'll start talking to him, and then Cole McCoy came 247 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: over and the three of them sort of discussed it, 248 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: so I think everything's good, But they did have an 249 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 3: extended conversation about it later. So to your point, yes, guys, 250 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: that stood out among guys. And so with that being said, 251 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: you know, Isaiah Simmons spent a lot of last season 252 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: in the safety room as well, and then to hear 253 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: him tell the media that he was offered at Clemson 254 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 3: originally as a safety, it does give you a little 255 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: more confidence that, Okay, this may might not be as 256 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: big a transition as you might think, because it is 257 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: jarring at first to see number nine as a deep 258 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: centerfield safety and so far out of the box. 259 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: It's not a new position. To your point, he was 260 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: practicing with the safety position all of last season, all 261 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: of this past offseason. But you look at the number 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: of snaps he did get a year ago. Most were 263 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: at slot corner, box defender, defensive line, quiet cornerback, and 264 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: then fifty three snaps at free safety. And he played 265 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: safety full time week seventeen at Atlanta. So perhaps the 266 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: coaches saw something on film a year ago. But then 267 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: Simmons kind of opened up the door to the conversation 268 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: that he had with this new coaching staff. He was asked, 269 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: where do you want to play, and the response was 270 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: not exposition, it was I don't want to play linebacker. 271 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: Not where do I want to be, It's where I 272 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: don't want to be. So I don't think we're gonna 273 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of Number nine playing linebacker close to 274 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, at least not yet, because he 275 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,479 Speaker 1: has maintained, even going back to the conversations in the offseason, 276 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: learn master one position and then move me around. 277 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: And look, anybody who thinks that Isaiah Simmons is going 278 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: back to inside linebacker, you're mistaken. Zavon Collins the same. 279 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: We haven't seen either one of those guys at inside backer. 280 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 3: It's been all Kaiser White and Josh Woods and Chris 281 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: Barnes and Owen Papo and Kyle Soley and Zeke Turner. Now, 282 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: there are a couple of schemes that we saw in 283 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: the Red and White where Zaveon Collins did come off 284 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: the edge, but that's when they overloaded an opposite side 285 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: and he was on the weak side. So it isn't 286 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: a traditional inside linebacker spot. But Isaiah Simmons right now 287 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: is a defensive back. He's a safety, and from what 288 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: we've seen, he's going to be a deep centerfield safety, 289 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: although they're going to retain the ability to still them 290 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: in the slot. You can't tell me if there isn't 291 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: a big slot receiver that week to week. I'm on 292 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: a matchup basis. But you know how good Buddha Baker 293 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: and Jalen Thompson are and navigating their way through traffic 294 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: and through the box and being able to make a tackle, 295 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: you know, on run play or quick jets sweep. Those 296 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: guys are really equipped to do that sort of thing. 297 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: So if you're going to allow those two safeties to 298 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: come up at any moment, and it's just more of 299 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: a guessing game for a quarterback, you're gonna break the other. Okay, 300 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: where's three, where's thirty four, Where's nine? What exactly are 301 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: they doing here? Who's deep? Who's coming? You know? I mean, 302 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 3: how many trail blitzers are we gonna see? Boot has 303 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: been really effective at that at times in that vance 304 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 3: Joseph's scheme. So look, I just think it unlocks a 305 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 3: lot of different abilities for Nick Rowlis to dial it 306 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 3: up and confuse a quarterback. 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: There's less on Simmons's plate, but the responsibility might be 308 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more because, as they say, that's your 309 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: last line and a defense, and with his size, his athleticism, 310 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: Simmons is very confident in his ability. He mentioned that 311 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: he has told the cornerbacks to play aggressively because quote, 312 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I got you, meaning he is that help over the 313 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: top if needed. And it is a little bit different 314 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: when you see someone who's six foot four playing deep 315 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: middle of the field. I'm curious to see how this works. 316 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: So far it has worked. But again you're again it 317 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: was a low tempo day on Monday, so you're not 318 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: going full speed for preseason. Game is coming up on Friday. 319 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: How much does Isaiah Simmons play. I think those first 320 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: early games, handful of games in September early October, you 321 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: get a better sense of one. Is this a fits 322 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: because right now Simmons is, oh yeah, I feel much 323 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: more comfortable where I'm at right now. 324 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: I think there are two areas he has to prove himself. 325 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: You cited one, and that is when you're the deep 326 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 3: centerfield safety, the last line of defense, your open field 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: tackling better be excellent. We know Buddha Baker and Jalen 328 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: Thompson are among the best in the NFL at open 329 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: field tackling. How many times have we said, oh, my goodness, 330 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 3: if it wasn't for j T or Buddha, that's a 331 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: sixty yard touchdown run. When a running back gets to 332 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: a second or third level. Can Isaiah do that? We 333 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: know he's a track and bad guy. He can go 334 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: sideline to sideline. He can run him down with the 335 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: best and cut you off before you turn it up 336 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: the sideline. But it's much different when running back in 337 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: the clear is coming right at you and he has 338 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: everything at his disposal to go left right through you. 339 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: So that's the first thing, and the number two thing 340 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: is Isaiah Simmonson' zone coverage is one thing, but Isaiah 341 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: Simmons and man and if he's in man against a 342 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: quicker receiver and you're having to follow the entire route, 343 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: the entirety they field. Okay, does he have that sort 344 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: of lateral quickness and flexibility you hear people talk about, Yes, 345 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: his straight line speed is elite, but is he fluid 346 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: enough to actually cover some of these receivers that he'll 347 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: face if there's a matchup zone, for example. And I 348 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,959 Speaker 3: think these are all things they'll get a sense of 349 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: in the preseason going. 350 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: Back to what you said about the tackling, because what's 351 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: been the one criticism of Simmons, it's being consistent weekend, 352 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: week out, series after series. He is he has that 353 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: capability of making the big play, the big hit, the 354 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: big takeaway, but just wrapping up a guy bringing him down, 355 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to get on Sports Center and 356 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: make the highlight reel. 357 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 3: Uh. 358 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: You know, tackle for a four yard gain is if 359 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: that's what that play calls for or your assignment, then 360 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: that's what you do as opposed to all you know, 361 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this angle and you know, you get, 362 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: this is gonna make the this is gonna make the TV. 363 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you take a wrong 364 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: angle and the guys behind you and look, he's got. 365 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: To be aware of that that if there's no one 366 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: behind him, you can't be going for the all light, 367 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 3: all out, highlight hit. You just can't do that. So 368 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: that's something he's going to have to learn that. Guess what, 369 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: there's no glory in the big hit if the guy 370 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: if you miss and the guy scores. So what's also 371 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 3: interesting is to hear him use the same four letter 372 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: F word that Jalen Thompson used about playing in this 373 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: new scheme in the secondary and that is free. That 374 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: is something that they have both talked about. So is 375 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: this a scheme Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gannon where they 376 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: are trying to simplify things in order to play quicker 377 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 3: in order to have guys actually react instead of think. 378 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: And that appears to be the case based on some 379 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 3: of the feedback we're starting to hear from players. 380 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: Be play within the parameters of what we want you 381 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: to do, but there is a little bit more freedom 382 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: in how you get from point A to point B, 383 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: as long as you don't frey too far off the 384 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: beaten pass at the path, as they like to say. 385 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Because if you're able to play free, you're thinking less 386 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you to your point. 387 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: You do become quicker to the ball or quick with 388 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: your decision making, as opposed to feeling that you are 389 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: in such a tight box because everything is so structured 390 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: that you start thinking, well, I can't do this, because 391 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm doing that and I 392 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: got yelled at no, no, no, this is what we want 393 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: you to do. And you tell us how comfortable you 394 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: are or the best way for you to be successful 395 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: at what we want you to do. 396 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: And if anybody had the potential to be doing too 397 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: much thinking and now I'm playing, it was Isaiah Simmons, 398 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: just based on the fact that he was playing a 399 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: half dozen different positions at any point in a game, 400 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 3: any point in a season. They were using him in 401 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: so many different ways. He had to know so many 402 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: different aspects of the defense. If anybody feels freed up 403 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: by this, it's got to be number nine. A. They've 404 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: simplified his position. B. The defense is a little more 405 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: simple to communicate and execute. So, okay, can they finally 406 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: unlock the athletic potential in playmaking that everyone and sees 407 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 3: in Isaiah Simmons. That made him the eighth pick overall, 408 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: And you would think, okay, here's your chance. You're in 409 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 3: a contract year. They didn't pick up your fifth year option. 410 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: Everything has been simplified. We've restricted you to one position. 411 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: Now it's just to go out there and make plays, 412 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: make noise, and be a difference maker. 413 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: One other point on Simmons and his meeting with the 414 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: media on Monday, a baseball fan and he mentioned that 415 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: he played centerfield in addition to third base, but playing 416 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: center field as a baseball player, and again, your vantage 417 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: point from center field, you are far away from home plate, 418 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: and your vantage point is different. And again no different. 419 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: How far off the line of scrimmage have we seen 420 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons play twenty twenty five thirty yards? I mean 421 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: it's sometimes he is well back there now that is 422 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: within the concept of that particular play, and then sometimes 423 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: he'll creep up. But yeah, you're gonna see ten guys. 424 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're gonna go, well, they're missing one. No, that's 425 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: number nine. Keep looking far left or far right. 426 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: What's interesting he said in baseball he played third base 427 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: in center field, which is sort of akin to his 428 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 3: football career if you think about it right, the hot 429 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: corner is sort of like playing that inside linebacker spot, 430 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: especially if they move off to the edge, which he 431 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 3: did quite a bit last year, versus deep safety, which 432 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 3: is akin to center field. So okay, in either scenario, 433 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 3: you need that elite speed. And the other thing he 434 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: shared was he does consider himself to have top five 435 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 3: speed on a team, And then Danny Sirek asked, him, really, so, 436 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: who do you think is up there in the elite class? 437 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: And I'm looking here and just to make sure he 438 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: got it right, he said. Rondel Moore, Andre Bachelli, backup receiver, 439 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown, Jalen Thompson, and Kyler Murray are the five 440 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: names he threw out there who would give him competition 441 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: for the five fastest in camp right now. 442 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: No one never likes to say, well, this guy is 443 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: faster than me. Every one thinks that they are the fastest, 444 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: no matter what profession you're talking about. It's like no 445 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: one wants to give up that baton. 446 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 3: So to speak. Kyler now never ran the forty. No, 447 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 3: but if I'm remembering right, it was rookie Mini Caamp 448 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen and it was at the end of like 449 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: the Saturday practice in him and Andy Isabella squared off 450 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: right in a mock forty and they were neck and neck, 451 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: and what it Isabella run? In? Isabella run a four 452 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 3: to three something. I think it might have been even 453 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 3: like a four to two. So, I mean, legitimately, justifiably, 454 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray is included among those that are the fastest 455 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: on the team because coming out, most people felt like 456 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 3: he would he would have run a four to three 457 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: something at the combine if he had elected to run 458 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: the forty. 459 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: By the way, nice of you to bring this full 460 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: circle as we talk about another player that you highlighted, 461 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: even nicknamed and is right now no longer on the 462 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: team and I Andy. So this continues to pop up 463 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: on a daily, monthly, yearly basis with Paul Calvic. 464 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 3: I Andy was supposed to be Eye Candy. He was 465 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 3: supposed to be the Tyreek Hill and come on the 466 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: Jets sweep and didn't really work out that way, you know, 467 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: which brings us back to Isaiah Simmons. Thankfully Danny Serek 468 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: is not here outside to hear about the Highaiah nickname 469 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: about being a hybrid. And now see we get rid 470 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: of that too. You know, it's addition by subtraction. We 471 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: get rid of that. Do we need more mention of 472 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: that whatsoever? But I'll tell you what I thought Zamon 473 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 3: Collins in the Red White. Speaking of first round defenders 474 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 3: who have changed positions, I thought Zamon Collins faredwell in 475 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: that Red White. Now you're not tackling, bringing guys to 476 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 3: the ground, and it's sort of advantage offense because the 477 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: defense can't go full all out. But he seemed he 478 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: got his hand on a ball in the passing lane 479 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 3: off the edge, and he looked like he was getting 480 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: into the backfield and giving offensive lineman problems. So twenty 481 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: five if he can, and I do expect him to 482 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: play quite a bit in the preseason just based on 483 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: the position change. I'm very curious because now that b 484 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: jo Jelari is back in practice, if o Jaalaari comes 485 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: out there and he shows, Okay, look, I'm first team 486 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 3: All SEC and I know the playbook. I can be 487 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: trusted in my assignments. There's no reason why Week one, 488 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: your two starting edge guys couldn't be Zavian Collins and 489 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: b jo Jalari. And I like that. I like that 490 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 3: look just in terms of the athleticism and the size 491 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: and in the caliber athlete you're putting off the edge 492 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: and trying to get to the quarterback. It makes me 493 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: feel pretty decent about the Cardinals front seven. If those 494 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 3: two guys are out there. 495 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: That position edge looks a lot better on Monday than 496 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: it did a week ago. You mentioned oh Jelari activated 497 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: from the pup list. My Jay Sanders was back on 498 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: the practice field for the first time since July twenty seventh. 499 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: Not really expecting or not I should say, not sure 500 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: about either status for or this Friday's preseason game against 501 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. But there are a handful of players, 502 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at that entire rookie class, nine players selected, 503 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: I can see all nine making the team. And if 504 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: you throw out Clayton tune right now, just because I 505 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: think that's a lot to ask, but I could see 506 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: seven eight of those nine rookies having significant impact, whether 507 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: in terms of production or just playtime, because that's what 508 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: we've seen so far in practice. 509 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: We've seen Keith troll Clark, the six round rookie corner 510 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 3: out of Louisville, running first team quite a bit, exchanging 511 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: reps with Christian Matthews. So okay, there's that. And then 512 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: there's Owen Papo, who hasn't got a lot of runner 513 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: mentioned in this camp, no, but he's been at second 514 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: team inside linebacker quite often. And you talk to the 515 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: players and they're like, I was talking to a couple 516 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 3: offensive guys and they said, just in the offseason in 517 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: the mini camps and so far, they're like, wow, forty 518 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: four can really flow. I mean, you know, his speed, 519 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 3: he has all the measurables if he has the instincts 520 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 3: as well. Look out. We've seen it before in the preseason. 521 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: Inside linebackers come in and they're just really instinctive, and 522 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 3: you know whether whether it's sort of a journeyman guy 523 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: who you don't think much of, or it's a younger 524 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: guy who played a lot of inside linebacker in the SEC. 525 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: We've seen that as well. You come in and inevitably 526 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 3: in the preseason, teams are running the ball out. They 527 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 3: want to get their running backs, reps and offensive linemen, 528 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 3: and you look down at the end of the game 529 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: and some backup inside linebacker as eleven or twelve tackles 530 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: and got his name called a Ton. You can really 531 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: make some noise and make a team that way, especially 532 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: if you're effective on special teams. 533 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: I know everyone's going to be paying attention to Paris 534 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: Johnson Junior on Friday, but I would also suggest looking 535 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: at the other offensive lineman that was drafted, and that 536 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: is John Gaines. He is running second team center or 537 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: second team left guard as he was on Monday. Because 538 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: this is a first for there is first team, second team, 539 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: and then you know, some rotation after a series or whatever. 540 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: I have never seen it again. I know this is 541 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: training camp practice, but I have never seen players switch 542 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: positions during the course of a drive or course of 543 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: a practice period. Because John Gaines is playing center, you 544 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: blank and all of a sudden he and Pat e 545 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: Fline have swapped, and now Gaines is playing left guard 546 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and elf Line is playing center. 547 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: I had to walk over to you just to Confirmam, 548 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: did I just see that correctly? That Elfline snapped it 549 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: In the very next play, same drive, same unit, John's 550 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 3: Gaines snapped it, So I don't know if that's confusing 551 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 3: to a defensive line like in a regular season game. 552 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: Would you ever consider doing that? Does that give the 553 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: offense an advantage at all? I don't think it really 554 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: would necessarily, but it is an interesting notion, right, I've 555 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: never seen that before. Could you swap out the center 556 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: and guard over the course the same drive. 557 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. But now I'm going to pay 558 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: attention a little bit more on Friday because there were 559 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: points whoever was the center and if there was a swap, 560 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: that guy would raise their hand, And I don't though 561 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: if that was a signal for either the quarterback or 562 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: because everything is on film, that you're signaling okay, this 563 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: is where I'm playing right now. 564 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: But if it does, I'm the center, though, it will 565 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: be the anchor of the huddle. So it'll be he'll 566 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: it'll put his arm hand up and he'll say, all right, 567 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: everyone huddle around me. But I don't know. I think 568 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: it is evidence to the very least that they're still 569 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: trying to make a lot of decisions, which players are 570 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 3: suited at which spots, and with new decision makers, new 571 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 3: eyes up and down. You did the math how many 572 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: new guys are there currently as it stands. I counted 573 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: forty seven. So if you just want to say more 574 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: than half or close to fifty on a what is 575 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 3: a ninety one man roster? Remember Psychowitz does count towards 576 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 3: a roster spoty as that exemption. But you talk about turnover, 577 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: usually it's what thirty thirty three percent more than fifty 578 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: percent turnover from a year ago. That's that's eye opening. Look, 579 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: there are certain guys. You know, James Conner, you know, 580 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 3: Marquise Hollywood Brown, you know, I get it, But there 581 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: are so many guys that you think you might know. 582 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: But until you get into these games, and it's full contact, 583 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: full speed, full pad football. Because even though you're gonna 584 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: go red and white, and I know what's build is 585 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: being full tilt quote unquote, but it's not. You can't 586 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 3: afford to do that. In today's NFL with a seventeen 587 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: game regular season, they're not tackling to the ground, so 588 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: you really don't know. For example, a key troll Clark, 589 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: how is he when teams start running at him. You know, 590 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: he likes to talk about how he doesn't shy away 591 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: from the physical side of the game, but canny tackle? 592 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 3: Is he a liability is at his size and run force? 593 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 3: So you need to figure this out. And I just 594 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: tend to the vibe I getting this camp is it 595 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: is still more wide open that a Cardinals camp has 596 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 3: been in a long time. And so if you have 597 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: a veteran against a younger guy, and I've said this before, 598 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: that veteran better be decisively better or else. I think 599 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 3: they go with the young guy just based where they 600 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: are in the rebuild, the reset, the financial side of it, 601 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: and then they're also going to be invested in the 602 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: upside of some of these young guys. Okay, the veteran 603 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: is known, how much better could he ever be? But 604 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: if we go with this younger guy year or two 605 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: from now, guess what you might really have something. 606 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: And perhaps a little bit more separation. Another evaluation coming 607 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: up on Friday, first preseason game the Cardinals. Ho's the 608 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos here at State Farm Stadium. Pregame coverage begins 609 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: at three point thirty with yours truly, And because it's 610 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: the preseason, that means my workload triples, because the gentleman 611 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: sitting across from me will be in the radio booth 612 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: on the call, Paul Calvec Drew Stanton, And that means 613 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: while I just get to do the entire pregame show myself, 614 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: but I get to be Polly pinch hitter for part 615 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals pregame. 616 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's a good point, and I'm 617 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 3: just gonna kick it upstairs and pass the buck and 618 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 3: pay it forward and blame it on Day Pash. Okay, 619 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: So because Dave Pash goes TV, it trickles down, you know. 620 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: So in a roundabout way, it's Day Pash and Drew 621 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: stan the two wine kind of sewers who owe you 622 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: a nice bottle out of the reserve. Put it that way. 623 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: I'll make a mention of that to the voice of 624 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals asap again, Paul Calvc drew Stan preseason 625 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: game number one coming up on Friday. Much more on 626 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: that game and what we want and hope to see 627 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: as the week progresses, But until then, how about we 628 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two 629 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: presented by Hundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 630 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: Special thanks to our executive producer Joe Mamahudra our ASSOCIIT 631 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: producer Cody Pincher. For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig Real Lou. 632 00:33:54,760 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two, No.