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Speaker 1: many more of my band.

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Speaker 2: All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle Bag Prison,

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Speaker 2: One Slice got the brother of Geist Swap all my life.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Club Shade Shape. I am

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Speaker 1: your host. Shannon Sharp, also the propriud of Club Shape Shape,

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Speaker 1: stopping by for conversation on the drink today. Is a

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Speaker 1: living legend. He's an icon, a pioneer from the South.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the music industry of over thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: One of the most influential rappers in history, one of

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Speaker 1: the top lyricists of all time, a member of one

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Speaker 1: of the most successful rap roots ever, the Ghetto Boys.

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Speaker 1: Beloved Houstonian platinum selling hip hop artists. It's celebrated record producer,

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Speaker 1: gifted storyteller, respected label executive. He was president of Death

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Speaker 1: Jam South, breaking in artists like ludicrous. He's on everybody's

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Speaker 1: top five rapper list, your favorite rappers, favorite rapper.

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Speaker 3: Some refer to him as the King of the South.

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Speaker 1: Harriet Is Ladies and gentlemen, good friend of mine, terrible golfer,

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Speaker 1: scar face faith, what.

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Speaker 3: Do you do? You don't gonna get that in? You

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Speaker 3: don't gonna get that in?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel bad getting ready to go on stage,

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Speaker 1: and I got on my concert kit, like this is

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Speaker 1: this is what I call a concert kit. Like normally

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Speaker 1: everybody be having they suit some when they got on

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Speaker 1: your show man, they be looking on fly right. But

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Speaker 1: this is how I be looking when I go on stage.

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Speaker 1: So if you see me on stage, and you probably

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Speaker 1: on stage with them new balance. I'm good man, don't

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Speaker 1: toys growing up either, said. All we did was talked

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Speaker 1: we get on the foe y'all. We gotta we got

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Speaker 1: we got a jones. We got to man, how you mean, bro?

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Speaker 1: But I've been great man, thank you for taking time.

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Speaker 1: I know your business. You got a concert in a

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Speaker 1: few hours and taking time out of your day, went

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Speaker 1: through soundcheck. Can't wait the people see the couple of

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Speaker 1: was going through your mind at the time of performer.

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Speaker 1: But this is my Kangnac. This is shaved by Laportier.

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Speaker 1: It's a premium bsop. You understand it, you know by kanyac?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Bsop stands for right, no very special old pale. That

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Speaker 1: if it's any truth to this. So the Hennessy guy

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Speaker 1: and Heines where they locked up in prison together?

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Speaker 3: I don't know know about that.

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Speaker 1: So I want to if I want people to look

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Speaker 1: into this. So Hennessy, the maker of Hennessy on somebody

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Speaker 1: hines they were locked up hies ketch up No Hines

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Speaker 1: Hi n e s. That's like a Kangnac. Okay, It's

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Speaker 1: like it's like the upper extra loons of Kangnac.

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Speaker 1: So I heard this story, man, I want to get

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Speaker 1: Kangnac makers, man, it's just that kind of kanyac. This

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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, we won the Simple Award. The

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Speaker 1: Simple Ward is a blind taste test. It's the only

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Speaker 1: But what they do in a Simple ward is that

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Speaker 3: No very special old pel.

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Speaker 1: And then you got XO, which is extra old, and

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Speaker 1: Blanc great and a partite Champagne. No, this man went

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Speaker 3: Sam? I know what to do? God damn, that ain't

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Speaker 3: that's what the say? How sterling doing good? He good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And in order for it to beat a Kanyac, Hey man,

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Speaker 1: The first two years has to start there. Hey man,

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Speaker 1: it's mean right here. For sure, we got you covered.

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Speaker 1: We got your cover. Oh no, oh it ain't got

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Speaker 1: no bite none. Oh you gotta be you gotta be careful. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: For real, I'm not gonna drink no more of that.

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody got no water we get man, why are

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no, But I just wanted you to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, send me send me up. Tell me why

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Speaker 1: I can buy something? Man, Yeah, I'm gonna send you something,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's like that for real though, for real, man, face,

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Speaker 1: it is an honor to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's always great to have people that you're mind from

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Speaker 1: a distance, you know, getting to know you over the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, you and my brother play a

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Speaker 1: lot of golf together. I sent word. I told him

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Speaker 1: I didn't know why he's saying that, man, don't do

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Speaker 1: to be. He sipped up and said he it's in

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Speaker 1: a picture back Indeed, he said, show face this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, Sterley, I'm gonna leave you alone. Man. If

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Speaker 1: They play, they play golf together every every celebrity golf

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Speaker 1: My brother's be out there with him.

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Speaker 3: And the man is a scratch golfer man. Unbelievable. He

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he played from the I play all the time too.

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Speaker 1: But I ain't finna go back there. I mean, I

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, yes, that's the that's the only way to

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Speaker 1: Let's get into a face talk to me from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: What was it like growing up in Houston, Texas for

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Uh, growing up in Houston as a young Brad? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a real that's a government named Brad. You we

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Speaker 1: say Brad as a young Brad Jordan. My mother had

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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time at my grandmother's house.

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Speaker 1: My grandmother had nine children, and I always tell I

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Speaker 1: always tell people that I feel like I'm my grandmother's

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Speaker 1: I always want to go to my grandma house. You know,

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Speaker 3: Smoked and jammed.

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Speaker 1: And you know they had the bands going, and my

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Speaker 3: But that wasn't what it was like.

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Speaker 1: It was a sense of community and could correct you

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I.

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Speaker 1: Don't give up real like people can vouce for me.

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Speaker 1: Like I was a nut growing up, I would cuss.

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Speaker 1: My uncle would call me when I was so, I

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Speaker 1: Oh that was it was second nature that you the

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Speaker 1: better grown folks. So much of hurry themicut. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I think this is genetics. You know how people play football.

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Speaker 1: You're good at magicians. Yeah, yeah, I was my my

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what you find his memories of growing up

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Speaker 3: Really live this ship, man. There were some tough times,

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Speaker 3: some great sitting in jamming with my uncle's in the

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Speaker 3: You're rid four or five in their room when they

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Speaker 1: You're in the room with your uncle Eric and Eddie right,

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Speaker 1: my grandfather in the room cussing up the storm. You know,

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Speaker 1: But it's so emotional going back to growing up. I

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Speaker 3: Mm.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I was always grown like you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that I was homeless until like now, really. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when I left my grandmother's house, how old were you.

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Speaker 3: Left my mom? My grandmother? I was probably twelve thirteen,

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Speaker 3: went to go live with Warren and his mom and

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Speaker 3: Nail and my sister telling you we all.

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Speaker 1: But she was always gone. So it was kind of

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Speaker 1: got like fifteen, sixteen years old, my mother ran in

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Speaker 1: an apartment.

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Speaker 3: In her name for me to go live in, like

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Speaker 3: you was living in an apartment by yourself. Y, let's

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Speaker 3: just call my mom. Dog. Let's just do that, cause

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Speaker 3: I don't want nobody to think I'm full of shit. Pause. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you. Oh the year I've been thought

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Speaker 3: that I didn't. Hey did you tell that? Joy?

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Speaker 1: Hey Warren Lee, I need a plug for my phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm I'm here on a club Shay say

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Speaker 5: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: How old was I when you rented that apartment for me? Well?

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Speaker 5: I think you was either fifteen or sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Hmm, that's that's my mama.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you stayed by yourself and did very well.

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Speaker 3: And have I been back home yet?

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Speaker 5: No, but I wish he would come just check on your.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that I'm fifty four years old. Brouh.

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Speaker 1: I ain't going back home, Mama, love you to death.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to clear that up.

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Speaker 1: And I know for a fact that I was smoking cigarettes.

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Speaker 1: Did you know, Mom? Did you know he was listen?

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Speaker 1: Listen to my mama. This is my mama.

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Speaker 4: You were doing everything you wanted to do. All I

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Speaker 5: You charmed.

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Speaker 4: You were charmed young man, cause people loved you and

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Speaker 5: That was that charmed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he he kind of had that. He kind of

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Speaker 5: And him friends, oh everybody, everybody loves him. Everybody.

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Speaker 4: I even had people to walk up to me and says,

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Speaker 5: Really too funny.

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Speaker 4: Even when he go buy houses and things, people would

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Speaker 5: So he's just so mannered. But he just got the

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Speaker 3: You know? I tell him anything. Ma'm I love you

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Speaker 3: to death. I'll call you later. Okay, thanks mysel. All right,

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Speaker 3: I told you I can't make this shit up. Did

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Speaker 1: Okay you are sa Quan you, Dad, Henry you, Josh Jacobs, you?

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Speaker 1: I mean who I was?

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Speaker 3: Sweetness? You was walk Clayton.

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Speaker 1: I was sweetness and Earl Campbell mixed in one. Because

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Speaker 1: Allen Alan Aldrews was a former teammate of mind. We

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Speaker 1: and I got there at niney. He came in ninety four.

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace. He passed away a year or two ago.

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Speaker 1: So I went to school with al Yeah, that kid,

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Speaker 1: you run your autobiography. My daddy was dad. My mama

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Speaker 1: And my grandmother already had nine kids of her own,

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Speaker 3: Damn cold.

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Speaker 1: Your grandmother had nine kids, and then you have brothers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but my grandmother didn't have to raise my brother.

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Speaker 3: He raised me.

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Speaker 1: She raised my sister, right, But she took on everybody

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Speaker 1: like everybody else that was their mama too, right, you know. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my grandmother was a cold piece of work man. She

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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Quick to go, get on the passage, go,

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Speaker 3: get in the passage side until un till you you're

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Speaker 3: out of five it slow down. You ain't got no money,

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Speaker 3: got what the hell?

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Speaker 1: And then my mother would always tell her mother, how

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Speaker 1: many stirring wheels on this car?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My mama was cold blooded.

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Speaker 1: So so I'm looking at so we're twenty one years

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Speaker 1: years younger than my mother. My mother's twenty one years

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I can see my life twenty one years

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And and that that ship always makes me thinking about

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Speaker 1: the end, shaying, and that shit makes me think about

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Speaker 1: the end. I can't focus, Oh living, Are you afraid

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Speaker 1: of dying? I'm not, But I'm just saying I ain't

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Speaker 3: I'm run out of time. I'm run out of time

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Speaker 3: like that cot Man's chicken man. And I don't want

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Speaker 3: to waste my time. The thing that waste my time,

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Speaker 3: that's my biggest fear, because I can't get it back.

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Speaker 1: No, time is the most valuable currency because once is

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Speaker 1: gone is gone. It can never be white back.

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Speaker 3: Get your money back, get your house back, at your

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Speaker 3: all that shit back, get your friends back. Can't get

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Speaker 3: time back. I seen they get his money back, yes,

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Speaker 3: but I ain't never seen nobody get his time back. Man.

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Speaker 3: And all I can think of shit, I'm fifty four

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, wow.

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Speaker 1: What face you think about the fifty four the fifty

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Speaker 1: four great years? Yes, you had open heart, I saw

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Speaker 3: Think about palls? Go ahead there you come. No, because

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Speaker 3: I don't want to think of be like, yeah, they

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Speaker 3: maybe I wouldn't, but think about think about the fifty

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Speaker 3: four great years. Yeah, but I ain't trying to cut

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Speaker 3: them off. Nosh, Come on, you afraid. I'm not scared.

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Speaker 3: I know that that's the inevitable. Man. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Why you thinking about that? You're thinking about dying and

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Speaker 1: can't get past it. I played with that shit so

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Speaker 3: Shit, I cheated it. But when I was uh uh

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Speaker 1: Was nine, when I was what year was that we

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Speaker 1: went that We went in that store. Man, them and

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Speaker 1: people came in there and robbed that got damn stoes.

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Speaker 3: That's aroub.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen seventeen fifteen, probably fifteen sixteen seventeen, was just leaving

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Speaker 1: the Fresh Fast concert, man, and I seen, I seen it.

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Speaker 1: Wa who it wasn't some hit hispanic catch? Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: came in there. Man, I seen. I say, bruh, I say, dude,

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Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go that. Then what I said, let's go,

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Speaker 3: got out of there. Man. Next morning, that shit on

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Speaker 3: the news. They shot it.

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Speaker 1: Up, killed it man. M duck and depth wow duck

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Speaker 1: now you it's touching people around you, but I mean

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Speaker 3: Uh. My brother, my manager was in there.

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Speaker 1: While he was in and they was like he was

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Speaker 1: I know that y'all probably hear this all the time,

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Speaker 3: Damn. You know, I don't know. Bro.

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Speaker 1: It's a blessing, but I don't want God to be

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Speaker 1: like all y'all.

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Speaker 3: Be dead, and I'll be honest by.

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Speaker 1: Myself or I just go fast, like I Have you

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Speaker 3: No, I have not. I have not.

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Speaker 1: I have not been able to And that sounds ungrateful

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Speaker 1: as fuck. I just grew up too fast, bro, And

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Speaker 1: I feel like everything that I was working for I

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Speaker 1: I started off as a DJ at at fourteen years old.

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Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to focused on it. I was

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Speaker 1: all right, I was good enough to make it. What

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Speaker 1: you mean, yeah, money, you did you DJ? You made

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Speaker 1: your biddle school party. I did that mean you?

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Speaker 3: Okay? I mean they ain't want to play? No money?

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Speaker 3: Probably play you. They didn't have to pay me no more.

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Speaker 3: I already had a little money. What you doing something shady?

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Speaker 3: What's shady? You know what shady is? No clue you shady? Right?

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Speaker 3: I think you have to. You gotta do what the

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Speaker 3: times called for? Right? You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta do what the Times called for? And

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Speaker 1: if you never call came throwing newspapers, should I throw

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Speaker 3: Hey? Does anybody have some toilet paper, nappy and anything?

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Speaker 3: We got the raider? Okay? Cool? One second? The coldest

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Speaker 1: Why I pause this right click? Because this shit gonna

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Speaker 1: Oh big nose, good thing.

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Speaker 3: You ain't have no habit. I can't say that. Damn faith.

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Speaker 3: And you still got money. I ain't got no money.

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Speaker 3: I don't want no money. Look how this nigga look

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Speaker 3: at it. I don't got no money. I don't want

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Speaker 3: no money. I don't want no money. Okay, hell no, no, hell.

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Speaker 3: When you got money, every motherfuckerybody else want your money.

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Speaker 3: I don't want no money.

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Speaker 1: Your dad passed away. How old were you when your

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Speaker 3: Do you remember it. I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: I didn't never know him. But I know how he

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Speaker 3: He died.

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Speaker 1: In a woman's house because her husband, a boyfriend shot

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Speaker 3: Mm. It was allain by the woman. There. You go,

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Speaker 3: all in by the woman.

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Speaker 1: And when he came to the door, the man shot

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00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: him through the door and killed him. And yeah, that's

437
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 1: why when chicks be like, I'm man, I be like, shit,

438
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: that's it. You go, I'm good your head. But yeah,

439
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 1: my dad, now, my my dad, he just passed.

440
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

441
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: He taught me. He taught me the game man. He

442
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: taught me the real live game, the real live hord

443
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: that a game.

444
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: My dad was the weed man.

445
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: And he would have stalks of weed drying in the

446
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: closet and I would I would go in there and

447
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: I would take, uh the little member of the brown

448
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: You don't know nothing about this, but they had the

449
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: brown uh bags.

450
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a little nickel bag. Yeah, there was

451
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: wasn't a nickel. It was a nick.

452
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: Okay, my bag. They came with that later. It wasn't

453
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: no nick when you were growing up. When I was

454
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: growing up, it was a nickel bag.

455
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: No, it was a nick. It's still a nickel bag,

456
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: no shit. And I'm not gonna ride with this a nick.

457
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, So I put it. You make you

458
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: a knick, yeah, and then you can make you a

459
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: big din okay.

460
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: Okay.

461
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: So we had this partially seed uh. He had partially

462
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: in the UH, and they got my cousin right there.

463
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: We had partially in the UH, in the in the

464
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, right So I didn't want my daddy

465
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: to know I was still in this. So I pop

466
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: off some of that.

467
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: Bud that was dried all real good.

468
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get enough and I just stepped on

469
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: a little bit with some partially season behind the hell

470
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: did I know to do that? I don't know, but

471
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: I did it. He been shady for a minute. I've

472
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: been shady for a minute, man, But I but I can.

473
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: I can honestly say my stepdad man taught me responsibility.

474
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: Man. He taught me to he he he taught me

475
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: how to be a man, bruh.

476
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: And you know what, standing and he stood in the gap. Bruh.

477
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: Myther my cousin verse always say, man, we we we

478
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: we we.

479
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 3: You gotta love it. Man. He stood in the gap man,

480
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 3: cause he didn't have to do that, right, you know

481
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: what I mean.

482
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: He didn't have to do that many it's not easy

483
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: to be in a stepparent. That man didn't call me

484
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: step cause your son, that's it.

485
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: Period. Did you always have a great relationship with it. No.

486
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: I didn't have a great relationship with my stepdad until

487
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: I understood, you know, until I grew up.

488
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 3: Mm. You know what I mean.

489
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, bruh. I ain't trying to move me

490
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: out the way. He trying to give me some game.

491
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: Mm.

492
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: And I think from the time when I was uh,

493
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: when I started going back to visit, you know, I

494
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: started getting little jewels and and and and stuff from him,

495
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: and I never will forget. I was coming back from

496
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: out of town and I I had some stuff with

497
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: me that came from my job, and I gave it

498
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: to my daddy to hold it, to hold it for me,

499
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: and then I gave him the money and I came

500
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 1: back and got all my supplies that I went to

501
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: work with, and my money too, And it was years

502
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: and years and years and years and years and years

503
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: down the line, and I brought it up to him

504
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, I s and my mama say what.

505
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: He still had it?

506
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: No, he he never told my mom about it.

507
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 3: Wow, you know what I mean? And that just let

508
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: me know that even.

509
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: More so, how solid and how he stood on business.

510
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: Man. Sometimes we don't appreciate stuff.

511
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: Nah, I appreciate him never, because he taught me how

512
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: to be responsible, right, And I would always say that

513
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: when I was up, I say, man, I don't even

514
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: want to talk to my daddy about it, because he's

515
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: always drilled in my head about being responsible.

516
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: Man, be responsible. This is you, you know. And I

517
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: got a lot of a lot a lot of respect

518
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: for that man. Rest in peace to Willie Terry because

519
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: he was a hell of a dude. Bro.

520
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 1: I read that you used to write down all the

521
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: sayings I lived with my grandmother, and I can recor

522
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, recite all the sayings hurt my grandfather. Yeah,

523
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: would say, why did you do that?

524
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, you didn't you don't you know

525
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 3: what you you you.

526
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: Don't realize how smart a person was until you don't

527
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: have them around, or or you you you take that

528
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: that phrase, you don't get old being no food for

529
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: granted growing up, But when you think about it, Hell,

530
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: my grandmother was ninety three, ninety four years old when

531
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: she got out of here, so I know she wasn't

532
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: no damn food and she had plenty since.

533
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: Man.

534
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: And it's not like the education because a lot of

535
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 1: these people they quit school in second third grade.

536
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one of them people that quit. Don't laughing.

537
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm trying a hold on time by time by time.

538
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: But let me we gotta go back. You just said

539
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: that skyline right whiller Ridge with willer Ridge, they having

540
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: a class for you.

541
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 3: You're thirty five year Yeah, how you getting to go?

542
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: I was what you do? No? No, no, no, no, no,

543
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: no you you quit before they got there. No I

544
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: was there. No, just just because you started that class.

545
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: You gotta finish your life. I'm way gone.

546
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: You know when you don't get to go to the reunion.

547
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Well they would tell them that, man, because they're calling me.

548
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: I ain't been to every last one year I've been there.

549
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: Are you getting to go? You the reunion. A I

550
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: missing something. I had an impact on my class face?

551
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: What grade did you go to? Nineth and a half?

552
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: You don't go on that far? Why you couldn't finish

553
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: the other two or a half? What? And I don't

554
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: want to say that. I don't want nobody to hear

555
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: me say that. But for what?

556
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Because I can count, I can read, I can multiply.

557
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you cheating like a mop.

558
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not see Actually you're supposed to put

559
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: a drop in there and it opens up the body.

560
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Let me see. No, you got to put a drop

561
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: in there. Oh I'm not. I got a concert tonight, man. Yeah,

562
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: they let me.

563
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Well, so you made so you went to the five

564
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: years to ten years to fifteen to twenty twenty five thirty?

565
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? I go to two class reunions how because I

566
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: was in both classes.

567
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: M I kind of did what the f I wanted

568
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: to do and all that's the that's a parent for real.

569
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 1: You can consider you going to class for you then

570
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: you he graduated. I had a math teacher, y'all that

571
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: would sit my desk out in the hall every time

572
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I came to her class. She knew that I was

573
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: coming and she'd have a desk in the hall for me,

574
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: cause you want some bull job.

575
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: Nah, I wasn't no bull job, Dad, I forgot you

576
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: don't curse, So I A'm gonna curse no moment, Yeah,

577
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: I don't. He don't like that shit. So I mean

578
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: cause when I finished with my work, I'm gone, right.

579
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't sit still, man, you know.

580
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, My mom would always say, what's going on in here?

581
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: What is going on in here? No, Mama, she'd say, well,

582
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: I don't want you driving no more cause you not focused.

583
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: M She would always say that she don't want me driving.

584
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: She'd want somebody else to drive for me because I

585
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: have too much going on in my head. And Margo

586
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: ridingy He'll always be laughing at me, you know, because

587
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: I'd be on the phone talking I'll be looking at

588
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: the back seat and driving. Yeah yeah, yeah. So as

589
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: a child, did you feel different? Did you think you

590
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: were different because you had all these thoughts in your head?

591
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: Did you talk to the end of your friends like, man,

592
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I'll be thinking.

593
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: This, and you know I went too. You know.

594
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: They put me in a uh An institution for this,

595
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: you know that, right, that's in my book, right, Yeah, yeah,

596
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: they put me in the I spent I spent some

597
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: time in one of those things, man, because of they.

598
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: Put you in the fifty one to fifty hole. That's

599
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: a psych hole.

600
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was on the hold and I was in there,

601
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: and I spent a lot of I'd stay that long

602
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: ass time.

603
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: Do you remember how old you were? I mean, because

604
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: you I mean, I was pre.

605
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: Ad so I had to be eleven twelve years old,

606
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: so I wasn't quite an adolescent yet.

607
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Were you Were you doing things?

608
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what were you doing that they thought that

609
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: this would be this would be fit you?

610
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: What was I doing? Yeah? Uh?

611
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: They said that I was manic, depressive and uh uh

612
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: with with suicidal uh tendencies. They thought that I was

613
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna kill myself and I never said I was gonna

614
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: kill myself. I did cut my wrist a couple of times.

615
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I did uh overdose a.

616
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: Couple of times.

617
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: But I realized, now, you know that being older, that

618
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to just die, you would just die.

619
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: Were you looking for attention?

620
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: So maybe I was seeking some attention from some attention

621
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: that wasn't there, that has never been there, you know

622
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: what I mean? And I'm gonna say I said a

623
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: thousand times, but I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't controlled.

624
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I didn't have parents that will, you know, stop me.

625
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: You did have guards, have no guardrails. I didn't have

626
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: no boundaries.

627
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, my uncles were already grown and you doing

628
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: what they I'm doing what they're doing. I'm smoking cigarettes,

629
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm smoking weed. I got I got Indian charges.

630
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: You know what.

631
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: I smoked crack for the first time in nineteen eighty

632
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: three when the.

633
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Ship was cool. That's that. That's the height of the

634
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: epidemic in the eighties. In the beginning.

635
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: No, no, that was the cool part in the eighties

636
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: because you had functioning, uh, functioning fiends and you can't

637
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: say addicts. Man, that's not things. They weren't fiends. They

638
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: just they just were users. But you do realize, like

639
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: the eighties that ushered in the No, no, it ushered

640
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: it end.

641
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: But back in the early eighties it was cool, trust me.

642
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: And now in the eighties, now, when I got a

643
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: hold of the ship, it started.

644
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: It got wasn't cool no more. That's when the ship

645
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: started not getting cool. But so that's before they started

646
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: stealing tv B. Yeah, that's when they started pawning shit.

647
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: That's that. That's when my game switched right. So I

648
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: never got hooked on dope.

649
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 1: But you know, my uncle would come in from the

650
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: construction on another thing too, like like it was all

651
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: black construction concrete workers and and and and flagged me

652
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: in on the side of the road right when we

653
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: were growing up. And then it changed and I would

654
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: get back to that. But my uncle would come in. Man,

655
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: he have an eight ball. Man, I learned how to cook.

656
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: He put that shit in the baker and he he

657
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: he'd uh hit it with the uh the torch and

658
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: put water in there and burn it until it turned

659
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: into a long little thing.

660
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: And it fall out and I hit it one time.

661
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: That it is. But I wasn't but eleven, twelve years old.

662
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: When you say you never got a chance to be

663
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: a kid, you never got a chance.

664
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I never got a chance to be a kid. You also,

665
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: how old were you when you said living is hard,

666
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: dying is the easy part.

667
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: I was this year.

668
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I was just I was this many years old. It

669
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: was it was, it was now it was an adult, like,

670
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: dying is the easy part. And that's why I said again, man,

671
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: I was probably trying to get some attention from some

672
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: of some seeking attention from people that pay no attention

673
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: to nothing.

674
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 3: You'll ask you your biological father, your bioce I know

675
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: you don't. You don't even know my bible. You didn't know,

676
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 3: you didn't know all at all.

677
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: But I knew I do know the the side of

678
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: my biological family. And I met my cousin in Chicago

679
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: when we were adults.

680
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: Wow, uh huh.

681
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: And he said my daddy's name, and I said, yeah,

682
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: this is no some because don't nobody know his name,

683
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then we've been super

684
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: dupi tight.

685
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: And I got a couple of other cousins that I

686
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 3: met over the over the that that span too. But

687
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know my dad, my biological at all.

688
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: How do you learn to deal with those demons? Because

689
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: you said that things going in your head? You know,

690
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: cut yourself and you try some other things. Have you learned?

691
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: Because I think, and we're gonna get to this, I

692
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: think that's a lot of where your creativity now.

693
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: You are a.

694
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Psychiatrist or something. Bro, did you go to school for

695
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 1: this shit? I took a couple of classes. Yeah, okay,

696
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: go ahead. Trying to dig this shit up. Well, how

697
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: did you feel when you were seven and you're But

698
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, because listening at your raps and seeing

699
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: a man, do I see a man crying the way

700
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: you rap into creativity?

701
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this guy. There was.

702
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: A poet, William Culin Bryant, and he wrote a lot

703
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: about death. Pantopsis is it's famous. I'm going to go

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: into this, but I you know, I regret writing about death,

705
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, writing so much, or or the state.

706
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: Of being, you know, dying. I regret writing about that

707
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 3: ship because now it's it's it's it's so close. Man.

708
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Have you always thought about dying? Have no?

709
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: I've always thought about dying, Like I've always wanted to

710
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: see how it felt to just die and then like

711
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: come back and tell them, like, broin't what you want? No,

712
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: you don't go in there here, but now on the

713
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: cool man, I always felt like.

714
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 3: Like.

715
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Did you did you hear these thoughts? Did a lot

716
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: of my songs? Know I'm saying, nobody.

717
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: Talked to Okay? You know what I mean?

718
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: If I I talked through my my pin, I didn't have

719
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: nobody to talk to and and.

720
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like.

721
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: If I told somebody how I felt, or told somebody

722
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: you know what I was thinking, they probably think I

723
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: was crazy. Yeah, you were gonna say that. Yeah, so

724
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: they's a mad face. Get a brad, get a check. Yeah,

725
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: and and and now at this age, I don't care

726
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: what they think. You know, I'm not already been through it, right,

727
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm coming out of the store.

728
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: So your friends didn't know, or did they?

729
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: I didn't have any friends, Damn, I don't think I had.

730
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: I I had people I hung out with sometimes, but

731
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't really have no friends, right, I didn't really.

732
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: You know that's crazy though. You know how you got

733
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: a whole lot of friends you grew up with and

734
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: they was your.

735
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: Friends, and y'all was friends. But I ain't really got

736
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 3: a whole lot of friends like that.

737
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: I think it was probably because I lived in a

738
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: uh a, in two different.

739
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: Two different households. You know, when I was with my grandmother,

740
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: my uncle's was my friends and they friends was my friends.

741
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: You know.

742
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: So you've always had an old soul because that's all

743
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: you've ever been around. You've never been you at my

744
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: oldest friend that I I've known in my life. My

745
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: oldest friend that I met, probably when I was one

746
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: or two or three years old, died the other day

747
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: from a massive heart attack. And I'm thinking to myself, like, wow,

748
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: here we go calling everybodyself Brad. Yeah, and and and well,

749
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean you said you dropped out of school in

750
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: the ninth grade. Ninth and a half, ninth and a

751
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: half or so, he was almost a sophomore almost when

752
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: you told your did you tell your mom that you

753
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: was dropping you tell your grandma?

754
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 3: What did they say? Or you just didn't go to school?

755
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: And what day? I didn't live with them, bro, I

756
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 3: was gone.

757
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: So they didn't know if you was going to school

758
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: or not. Anyway, don't care.

759
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 3: I was already gone. My mama got me an apartment. Man.

760
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: She just said it, and she said it. She had

761
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: you did quite well, Yeah, if you had, if you

762
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: had to live with your mom, you live with your grandma.

763
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: Do you believe you to quit school? Yeah? Maybe no.

764
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: You know what, I would have quit school? You know why? Why?

765
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: Because no past, no play came into it.

766
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 3: What damn face? Yeah?

767
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: And I was smartest you could imagine, but it was

768
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: just boring to me, you know. And when they implemented

769
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: no past, no play like I was a football player. Man,

770
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to play football. And when they said no

771
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: more football, I didn't even want to go to school now,

772
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: So what am I going to school for? Because I'm

773
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: really just going to school. Yeah, man, I can answer

774
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: track reading right, But I want to I want to play.

775
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: I want played, you know, I want to play football.

776
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 3: Is it true you beat up the principal? I did?

777
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 3: Why you beat the principal? That man old? He wasn't old.

778
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: He wasn't old back then he was though he had

779
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: to be in his thirties. That wasn't old. You was

780
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen, I wasn't that old. Well, damn, how old

781
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: were you when you beat him?

782
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: I was in like the six or seventh grade, Damn.

783
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: I had a fight with somebody in the commons locker

784
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: area and his brother came by to the fight, so

785
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: I gave him the business.

786
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: I gave his brother the business. And then.

787
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: One of the principals came by, was trying to pull me,

788
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: but they wasn't pulling them, so I gave them the business.

789
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: And then the other principal, Mss Kyle, she came by.

790
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: I gave her the business.

791
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to go to school. I know you

792
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: weren't gonna be able to go back to that school.

793
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: You might have went to school somewhere else in another district,

794
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: but you weren't going back there.

795
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: No more face.

796
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: If I would have really wanted to go back to

797
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: that school, I couldn't went back to that school.

798
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: Now that you don't beat up the whole damn school,

799
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: it didn't matter if I was determined to go back.

800
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think all I had

801
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: to do is like like two or three months in uh.

802
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Alternative school, and I didn't do that. I didn't do it.

803
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 3: Why were you acting out?

804
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it was acting out. I just didn't

805
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: want to be with you, know what I mean, Like,

806
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm cool as hell man until you push that.

807
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 3: Aff it with people. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm

808
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: cool as hell man.

809
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: Just don't with me, don't don't don't don't push him

810
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: out because he'll come, you know what I mean. I've

811
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: been keeping him nice in head. So he's passed for

812
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: these years is and they brought they brought something out

813
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: of you that God, don't you.

814
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Don't want to see him? I don't want to see him.

815
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 3: No more, I don't want to see him.

816
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Remember when we were sitting there and I say, man,

817
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: I ain't gotten a whole lot of people.

818
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: I ride around.

819
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: I don't ride around with nobody. I ride around a

820
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: pistol because I know what I'm gonna do. I know

821
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Don't make me make that. Don't

822
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: make me make that decision. Can we leave the pistol

823
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: hall when I come to Houston?

824
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 3: No?

825
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: Oh, lord can. I'm just gonna meet you there, y'all

826
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: just gonna beat you. Y'all'm gonna beat you at the spot.

827
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can meet me. And you not coming to Houston.

828
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: I am coming. You're not gonna call when I come

829
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: to get you. I almost moved to Houston. That wud

830
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: have been a disaster.

831
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Came close, and came back to Vegas in Houston to

832
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: see did the team be wanting to move to Houston

833
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: so bad they.

834
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 3: Want to go? Yes? Ship man, you could be the

835
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: neighbors possible.

836
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: No, hell, know you're along with your apartments cause I

837
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: mean because like when you're on your own, you could

838
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff. So you got an apartment

839
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: and you start selling No, you were selling.

840
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 3: Before the way before then. I worked at a movie

841
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 3: there and I'm selling what drug? No, man, I ain't

842
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: never sold no drugs, man.

843
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,959
Speaker 1: So when you stick, So when you stealing your stepfather's weed,

844
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: you were just smoking you and the boys were smoking it,

845
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: or you just smoking it.

846
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: I was stealing weed and putting partially seeds with the weed.

847
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: But what were you doing with it? You wouldn't just

848
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: the people don't just steal just to steal. That's the

849
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: part I'm trying to get to. Well, I would roll

850
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: up two dollars squares and if anybody wanted to buy squalls.

851
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: So you were selling drugs. I wasn't selling drugs. That's weed, okay,

852
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: And I sell weed, but I was I was like

853
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: seven eight years old. Oh lord, I wasn't.

854
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't.

855
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't just Nino Brown. No, but Nino Brown this.

856
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: But this was my personal right. You know, I'm just

857
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: not gonna give it away. If you wanted you, that's

858
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: two dollars square. And if I had a nick nick

859
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: a a nick on me. Yeah, And and my knicks

860
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: never was real nicks though, so y no, they wasn't

861
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: really they were never real knicks man, cause I rolled

862
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: me a couple of squares after Nick and I sell them.

863
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: So it be a couple of square short, yeah a Nick?

864
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: How many square could you get out of Nick? Back

865
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: in the game by three, three, by three and four?

866
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: And so y'all know they wouldn't come beto it. But but

867
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: but the thing is you probably y uh that homegrown.

868
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: So they were bumped to begin with.

869
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: That home run. Now you have some home roun y'all

870
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 3: leave except most terrible we ever man. But you know

871
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: where that there comes some grass and let it drive man.

872
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Nah, nah, that home grown. I don't even it. It

873
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: just give you a eye high, yeah, like your eyes

874
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: just be high. You don't really be high, though, But

875
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I never i I I had a job and I

876
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: worked at the movie theater. But before the MU movie theater,

877
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: I had another job. I had a hustle. Yeah, so

878
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: I was hustling. All right, did you let you you

879
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: let your homies in the movie theater free or you

880
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: let them cut? Hey, give me a dollar, I'll let

881
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: you in. No, I just let him in. Matter of fact,

882
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: I ain't really had no homies man that would come

883
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: by there like that, right, you know what I mean,

884
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: and this was and I was too young to be

885
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: working anyway, right, I was like, it wasn't too learned

886
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: back then, because they put your ass to work, said,

887
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: oh bro, you had to be you were supposed to be, right,

888
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: excuse me.

889
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: And these were white people, right. I worked at bel

890
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: Air at a movie theater.

891
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: Right, you had to you had to work like eight

892
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: hours a day sometimes.

893
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: And me being sixteen years old, you know, they wondering

894
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 3: why I ain't in school.

895
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: So I told him that I was eighteen years old, right,

896
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: so I can keep that job, keep their job. But

897
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: I feeled on application at this hyper mark called oh

898
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: shan Okay, they had just built the biggest it's big,

899
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: like all aren't like Sam was.

900
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 3: Or something big, big big. And I worked as a

901
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 3: stock boy at night and overnight.

902
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: And I worked a few days man, and they wrote

903
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: that I had a check man that check with four

904
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: hundred and some dollars. That was a lot of money back,

905
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: I was a lot of money for a couple of

906
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: days of work. Right, yeah, So I never got my

907
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: check and I never went back to work. Well, damn,

908
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: did you do you want another check?

909
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: I invested. I invested in my in your other business,

910
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: my business, yeah, investment, I invested, Yeah, and then when

911
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: I started making music, I had a lot.

912
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: To talk about. I had a lot to talk about,

913
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: right because I knew several businesses. You had, You had

914
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: a as they say, you had life experience. You lived

915
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: life more by the time you was sixteen seventeen.

916
00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 3: For sure, no question about it. Yeah, for sure. Remember

917
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: I was.

918
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: Eight years old and we used to wear these medallions

919
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: that we got from the game room down the street,

920
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: and they would ask us, uh no, the guy would

921
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: swear us here, and we'd take an oath, you know,

922
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: I swaw I solemnly swear to protect.

923
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: The week, and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

924
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Right, so guy walks into this place called you told

925
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: him we was kids, man, and we were hiding in there,

926
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: and they robbed that place and they they shot that

927
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: clerk man, and then we'll forget that.

928
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: You were there.

929
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Me and a couple of men men, another couple

930
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: of buddies of mine, we were there.

931
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 3: I was.

932
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: This lady had got shot in our apartment complex. Mm

933
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: and it's the first time that I ever seen like

934
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: blood like that, And it was thick like I can't

935
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: even describe how thick it was, but it was so thick, man,

936
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: And that lady was dead, her husband killed her, and

937
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,439
Speaker 1: that lady was dead, and that blood was thick. Bro,

938
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: it was so thick. Yeah. Yeah, as a kid, man,

939
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: it's traumatized, man by just different stuff I've seen over

940
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: the years. You know, the first starting of my career,

941
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, every concert we had, somebody would get killed

942
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: or you know, two girls and and and I don't

943
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: know if that was San Diego or or somewhere.

944
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: We was at San Diego. Yep.

945
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: So it was in San Diego and we finished a

946
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: concert and got ready to leave it to girls laying

947
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: out on the side of a Volkswagon bug dead. Like

948
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: all it shows, man, somebody got shot, somebody got this,

949
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: somebody got that.

950
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: Every neighborhood that we lived in, somebody was man.

951
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: I remember, we used to have parties in the house, parties, man,

952
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: and we would go in that house party, even go

953
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: to the Great Stake skate We're going there to fight, man.

954
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: And it always had a pistol on me.

955
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 3: Always had a pistol.

956
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Your uncle stole for you from you and your grand

957
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: I think it was in your book where you said

958
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: your uncle stole for and your grandfather shot at you. Yeah,

959
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: your your uncle stole money? What did you steal from you?

960
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: Some material that I have to use to go to

961
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 3: work with.

962
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 1: It was like like like wrenches, like a musket wrench.

963
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah my job? Yeah yeah yeah work yeah?

964
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

965
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 3: How you how you how you gonna do your job

966
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 3: if I.

967
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: Don't have my my my job with So we we

968
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: had a fight. How you know he stole it because

969
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: didn't nobody else know where it was? So you fought

970
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: your uncle? Yeah, you get it back? No, you beat

971
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: your uncle up?

972
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: I did. Did you apologize to him? I do? You

973
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: didn't at the time, but you do now.

974
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, why your grandfather shoot at you?

975
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 3: Costly cut that. You gotta keep him in there, man,

976
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: You gotta keep him in there because you let him out. Bro.

977
00:51:54,600 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that ship is bad, bad, right. So he shot

978
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 1: at me and I heard him. He's sure right, bro? Yep,

979
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: the tools that you needed to go to work with?

980
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: Did you ever use any of those tools?

981
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 3: I did?

982
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: Did you get hooked? I didn't get hooked. I didn't

983
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: get I didn't get addicted. But I used it before. Yeah,

984
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: you have to you have to. You have to make

985
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 1: sure that the frame that you build. Yeah, make sure

986
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: it's okay, right, Yeah, you know you don't want to

987
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: see the fall in when you start walking on the roof.

988
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: Do you You tried to rob a b So who

989
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: tries to rob?

990
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 2: So?

991
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 3: What was your thought process in that? What you robbing

992
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 3: the bank? I ain't never tried to rob no bank?

993
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 3: You we was successful? No, I don't know, No want

994
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: to ride no bank. That's where the money at me? Yeah?

995
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 3: Rob a bankon no bro, My name Brad, not rob

996
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: When did you?

997
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: When did you say, you know what enough of all

998
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: this other stuff that I got going on, I'm going

999
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: to the rap game. You didn't make it. It didn't

1000
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: happen like that. So how did you start rapping?

1001
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 3: How did I start rapping? Yeah?

1002
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: It was a cool ass pastime in junior high school,

1003
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: in high school, okay, right, rapping? You was only there

1004
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: for a year and a half in high school, so

1005
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't that cool. It was cool, okay because everybody

1006
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: went from one school to the next. We all knew

1007
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: each other. So it kind of felt like I did graduate,

1008
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, kind of feel like I was still in

1009
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: school with everybody Okay to this day, yeah, we're still together.

1010
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 3: I feel like.

1011
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: When I when I first started uh uh growing a

1012
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: passion and rapping from for rapping, you know, it was

1013
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: listening to everybody. And then when I heard kra Is One,

1014
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I think that's when I really wanted to start to

1015
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: be a rapper. When I heard Ice Tea, I really

1016
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: wanted to be a rapper. When I heard Ice Cube,

1017
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: I really wanted to be a rapper. Now, listening to

1018
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: LL cool J and Big Daddy Kane let me know

1019
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: that I couldn't be a rapper, you know, because they

1020
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: were just so immaculately skilled. Not that h none of

1021
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: the other UH artists that I mentioned aren't, but it

1022
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: was just when I heard that, I was like, you

1023
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: know what, I wanna do this alright, But so I

1024
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: I ended up making a couple of records with a

1025
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: guy in Houston, and.

1026
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 3: I made a song called Scarface and it came out.

1027
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: It was the first one that we that that that

1028
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: that's the first one that we probably heard yet.

1029
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: But buddy of mine, Chris Barrier, rest in peace. They

1030
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 3: called him three.

1031
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 1: Two had we were we were together and we made

1032
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: a uh he made a record I don't remember the

1033
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: name of it, but it was more of a radio

1034
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: friendly record, and the record label, UH wanted to go

1035
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: with that because it was more user friendly.

1036
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: Right.

1037
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 1: And on the other side of town, there was another

1038
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: kid that wanted to put me, that liked what I

1039
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: was saying and wanted to put me, you know, in

1040
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: a group now, mind you, about three or four months

1041
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: before that, I had rode the bus over to to

1042
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: the car lot to play some songs for him, and

1043
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: one of the castle was like, that's not what we're

1044
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: looking for. And then like a few few weeks, a

1045
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: few months later, you know, Steve Fangner playing a record

1046
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: for a little j at the rying Stone Wrangler parking

1047
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: lot and she'd do was at my house, m And

1048
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: I was like, man, how you find me just like that?

1049
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1050
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: You mentioned kr is one known as a lyricsis Big

1051
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: Gatty Kane lyricist rock Him lyricist. People put you in

1052
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: that and you are a storyteller and that come people

1053
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: that you know what you what I noticed, And I'm

1054
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: a storyteller because I've hung around. I hung around a

1055
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of old people, and old people told stories. You know,

1056
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: go get your haircut at the barbershop and they playing

1057
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: checkers and they telling old man telling stories.

1058
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 3: Your storyteller, is that how you thought your rap career?

1059
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: Did it? So? What were you open to be as

1060
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: a rapper? What was gonna be? I didn't know.

1061
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: I knew that that Ice two told a cold ass story.

1062
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: You know, six in the morning, Police at my door,

1063
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: Fresh Tisty this week talking the bathroom. So you you know,

1064
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: just clicking the ice cube once upon a time in

1065
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: the projects.

1066
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: Yo.

1067
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: So we can't just say that that that that my

1068
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: storytelling is all that. But you know, uh what about

1069
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: Will Smith's storytelling? You know, like Will Smith had some

1070
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: cold ass stories.

1071
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1072
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: Uh, have you ever in your life experience today when

1073
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: nothing it all seems to go your way like Day

1074
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: and Dane. Yeah, tell of storytellers, man. I grew up

1075
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: in the era of hip hop where where it was

1076
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: a force to be wrecking with Man, they had some

1077
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: nice You love to hear the story again and again

1078
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: how it all got started way back when like that.

1079
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: Those are immaculate cumlines, man, those are beautiful openings to

1080
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: a book.

1081
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: Bruh. You have to have you have to have that

1082
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: in order to be a.

1083
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: Cold blooded lyricist, storyteller, and they had that and it

1084
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: just it just came through me too.

1085
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: Do we have that now? In some cases? Yeah? You

1086
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: got some cool night saying storytellers in the rap right now.

1087
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Speaker 1: If I if I were to ask you, give me

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Speaker 1: your top five lyricists of all time, all times, all time,

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Speaker 1: not five, I don't have a top five like that.

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Speaker 1: Some greats. I'll give you some name of some greats.

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Speaker 1: Kaine is a great rock, Kim is a great, Chris

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Speaker 1: is a great. Carries one. Yeah, that's all. That's a

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Speaker 1: l Yeah you didn't.

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Speaker 3: I did not know.

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Speaker 1: You didn't. L's are great great lyricists. Nas is a great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: jay Z is a great. I mean I don't have

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Speaker 1: a top five, you know, like my top five are

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Speaker 1: going to the top thousands, you know, I think I

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Speaker 1: uh Shan. And who am I missing?

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Speaker 3: Like I can't I can't because I'll miss everybody.

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Speaker 1: Q Tip is great. Yeah, you know, Ti is a great,

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Speaker 1: Wayne is a great. You would name lyricists a year

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, you beat whole be m

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Speaker 1: Prodigy to leave Coopley. You beat a whole m prodigy.

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Speaker 3: You surprised, Damn, I be damn and I just.

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Speaker 1: Nah, I mean, I'm honored to be among uh uh

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Speaker 1: the greats. You know, how does that make you feel

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Speaker 1: when they when people talk about lyricists, when they mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Kris Ones, when they mentioned the b DK big

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Speaker 1: that's that's that's in a selected few conversations. Man, that

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Speaker 1: my name pops up. I'm not I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 1: mad or I don't feel nothing right. You know, I

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Speaker 1: me like it's it's people that people think just like

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 3: Rappers in the world. And I don't even I don't

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Speaker 3: even see him, you know what I mean? Oh man,

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Speaker 3: top three all time? No, nah, top three are all times.

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Speaker 1: Give me your top four rappers all time, four four,

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Speaker 3: Because we know you ain't trying to go see different.

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Speaker 1: I don't care, man, I don't have a top four man,

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Speaker 1: Like I would say my top four influences, then can

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Speaker 1: I say that? Yeah, go ahead, Okay, Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say Chuck Chuck d I'm gonna say Big Daddy came.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say ice Cube shooting.

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Speaker 1: I saw those guys the concerts. I saw LLL the

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Speaker 3: Do you like? Do you really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, because for me, I don't think these are

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Speaker 1: so a lot of times artists today and people that

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Speaker 1: follow rapp and hip hop today, I don't think they

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01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: give that generation the credit that they deserve because now

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Speaker 1: they feel like if they didn't if if they didn't hear,

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Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, as as as shameful as

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Speaker 1: it is, man, I can understand that because look at

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Speaker 1: what they're doing with black history. Yeah, okay, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. Like it it's black history is

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01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: becoming uh extinct. And you know, the more the more

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Speaker 1: and more we we try to talk about it and

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Speaker 1: bring it to the forefront, the more the more the

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Speaker 1: more they try to hide it. Okay, So I understand,

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Speaker 1: and I would Yeah, if if if I was trying

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Speaker 1: to brainwash people, man, I wouldn't do it exactly like that.

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Speaker 1: I would first take their history away and then I

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Speaker 1: would poison their music.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly That's exactly what I would do.

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Speaker 1: Because it's it's really like I remember back in the gap, man,

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: it was all fire and one or two you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: it felt that slipped through the crack, right, But now

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Speaker 1: It's my opinion. You know, shit, I'm and I and

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm uh, I'm different, mm, I'm cut different,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little older. And I know what it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to sound like. You know, I know the elements of

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Speaker 1: hip hop. I was blessed enough to come up in

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Speaker 1: an era where can in the golden era, the golden era, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and and and I can, I can. I can

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Speaker 1: actually go and thank my the ones that came before me.

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Speaker 1: I can thank them for what for the for the

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Speaker 1: ground that they lay for me to stand dumb man

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Speaker 1: like I see uh, I see Cane, you know, and

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Speaker 1: I see l.

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Speaker 3: All the time, man. And I thank them even even

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Speaker 3: uh uh a red alert and kid can Prey. I

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Speaker 3: thank them for letting me, you know, be a part

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Speaker 3: of this.

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Speaker 1: But I's had the opportunity to sit down with uh

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Speaker 1: dj can as casting Ova Fly on the c A

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Speaker 1: s N the Ova and Fly he stole the man

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Speaker 1: whole rap.

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Speaker 3: That was a big bag. Hang. You wasn't casting over Fly,

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Speaker 3: but I heard the story.

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Speaker 1: Along with So it's Kumo d casting over Fly and

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Speaker 1: fave Fire Freddy having.

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Speaker 3: A talk man about hip hop. Man.

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Speaker 1: And I have never felt so unworthy to be in

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Speaker 1: a room in my life, bro, Like, I don't feel

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Speaker 1: worthy to be in there with that, because when they

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Speaker 1: talk about it from the beginning, like, it gives what

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Speaker 1: Shad said, you love to hear the story again and again.

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Speaker 3: And how it all got started way back.

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Speaker 1: When and give it a whole new meaning when you

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Speaker 1: sit and you listen to them talk about hip hop

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Speaker 1: from the conception, yeah, the fifty years at the beginning. Man,

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Speaker 1: it was unbelievable, man.

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Speaker 3: And I was.

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Speaker 1: I was a fly on the wall in that room

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Speaker 1: listening to those four way to tell that story, man,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, I'm not worthy storytelling? How

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Speaker 1: did how did that become a part of because that's

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Speaker 1: who you are. You're a storyteller, you know. And I

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Speaker 1: think it was in my English class, my English.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was early. Okay, you try to be funny.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, get your back on it all

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 1: You be popping on the yeah, I be popping what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, and ask hard man, you say, I ain't.

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Speaker 3: I ain't fired you up on camera, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: gonna do it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that I teach you that, but I already

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Speaker 1: know you got something to borrow.

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Speaker 3: I got some ship now.

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Speaker 1: So my my English teacher, when I was probably in

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Speaker 1: the third grade, used to always tell me about writing, man,

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Speaker 1: writing your story had to have a It had to

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Speaker 1: have a beginning, It had to have a a body,

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Speaker 1: a climax, and then an ending. So I always trying

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Speaker 1: to write my records like that, you know, to drag

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Speaker 1: you into the story man, to give you the to

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Speaker 1: to to grab you and put you in that month

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Speaker 1: oh shut me in, you know, and then take you

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Speaker 1: to the climax of it and then end it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that that's so, It's just some old English. Was

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Speaker 1: it englishman or was it a reading class or writing class?

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Speaker 1: I don't know right, but whatever whatever class it was,

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Speaker 1: it gave me that, yeah, because every excuse me, every

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Speaker 1: story has to have a start after have a middle,

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Speaker 1: after that end.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And that's what he said at the beginning, a body,

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Speaker 1: a climax, and an ending. Yeah, so I took something

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Speaker 1: from school. Right you are? You were featured on Biggie

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Speaker 1: Possimus sat. Did you mean did you ever I met Biggie?

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Speaker 3: I did? I met him uh and uh uh Louisville, Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I met him there. Yeah, cool dude, man. I

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Speaker 1: never spent a lot of time with Biggie, but I did.

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Speaker 1: I did have the the put being on one of

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Speaker 1: the records from the Biggie duets, so.

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Speaker 3: I'm on that. Yeah. Park spent a lot of time

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Speaker 3: with Tupac.

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Speaker 1: Because we were discussing that smile might have been the

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Speaker 1: last studio thing. He say that because he was always

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Speaker 1: in the studio. I probably left the studio and he

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Speaker 1: did thirty five more records that night.

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Speaker 3: May No, he was a worker haling man, but probably

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Speaker 3: though we'd have heard about it true. What was he like?

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Speaker 3: Park was wild?

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Speaker 1: He had a zero to one hundred is zero one.

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Speaker 1: He I have never seen him own zero up. Always

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Speaker 1: ain't never seen him down. It was always he was

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Speaker 1: always on fire. I remember one time true story was Warren.

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Speaker 3: So Pocket came.

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Speaker 1: To my room and I hate when Warren bring people

1293
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Speaker 1: to my room. So my brother brought Tupac to my room.

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01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: We staying in the in the Le Montrose in LA

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01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: and Warren. I hate this man, but he knocked on

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01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,839
Speaker 1: my door. I opened the door and it's Tupact Warren.

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Speaker 1: Warren left, Tupac come in the room, man, and it's

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01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: the first time we started smoking the weed from California.

1299
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: Oh oh, So I was really really really really really

1300
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: really high. Yeah, and I had a I had a

1301
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: a suite and it had two beds, right, so I'm high.

1302
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm watching TV Man and part coming in there with

1303
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 1: all that loud ass shit man and I grabbed her

1304
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 1: remote control and I just handed it. He was like, yeah, man,

1305
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: we gonna so well this. He he sat there on

1306
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: the bed for a minute, man, flipping through the channels.

1307
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: He walked to the to the patio door, looked out

1308
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: and he seen Sug in a red Mercedes Benz.

1309
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 3: And he left.

1310
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that uh Park was that cool with

1311
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 1: Sug back then, right.

1312
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 3: Cause he did leave, and I.

1313
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: Don't know they coulda been the best of friends, but

1314
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: I know that he was gone, right and we ended

1315
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: up getting out him going out somewhere, and then I didn't.

1316
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: I didn't see Pac no more. But me and Park

1317
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: being on tours together. You know, we been in Atlanta together.

1318
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: We we that's that's my partner, man. Like I would

1319
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: talk to Tupaca.

1320
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 3: On the phone before he was uh.

1321
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: Me against the well, not me against the world, but uh,

1322
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: what's the one? What's the the other album? All I

1323
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: talked to Tupac before he was all eyes on me?

1324
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 1: All right, Me and Park been down since. Uh Tupaca

1325
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: lists now Pac, you know what I mean? That's the

1326
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: part I know. I know the the uh this is

1327
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,480
Speaker 1: for my first part? Wow, yeah, I know that part.

1328
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: How is his different writing style different than yours?

1329
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1330
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: You never seen him write anything, no, but I can

1331
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: tell you that I was his favorite rapper and he

1332
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: was money.

1333
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: So I leave that.

1334
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: I leave that way it's at So maybe we did

1335
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: have similar writing style, but we never wrote together. As

1336
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he would always be mad at

1337
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: me because it took me so long to write records.

1338
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 3: You know, he right.

1339
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 1: Pisted at me. Man, every time he comes to the studio. Yeah, man,

1340
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 1: let's get up.

1341
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: We gonna go here with.

1342
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: No I'm not going there, right, I'm not. I'm not

1343
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,759
Speaker 1: going anywhere and park to begin with. Because he doesn't

1344
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,799
Speaker 1: have a driver's license.

1345
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: No more.

1346
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Back then he may have got one, you know later

1347
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: he didn't have no driver, but he drive with no license.

1348
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: I'm more, yeah, for sure. Yeah. And he couldn't drive, man.

1349
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: And people was trying to get me to roll that

1350
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: humber one time, and somebody had a picture of that

1351
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: hummer on the internet.

1352
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 3: Man, and I was like, damn, man, that shot me back.

1353
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 3: But he can't. He couldn't drive, Man, And he was wild,

1354
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: and he'd be drinking and he'd be smoking weed and.

1355
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: Shit, no, man, I'm not gonna ride with him. These

1356
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: ain't got no license to drinking smoking weed. A good driver, No,

1357
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: that's that's a recipe for disaster, man. And the prevention

1358
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: has always better than trying to carry it. So no pot, no,

1359
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: sirn You told the story about jay Z and and

1360
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 1: how you know you were in.

1361
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 3: The studio and he's like, yeah, I like I like this.

1362
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,679
Speaker 1: What he gets up, goes into the booth, ain't write

1363
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: nothing down. Oh no, and all right, dap you up

1364
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: and gone and pieced out. I mean, like, damn, I'm

1365
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: sitting in front of the board stuck. He's already rapped,

1366
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: but he was sitting in that little corner maybe. I

1367
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: know you probably seen on the on the timbling. Uh

1368
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: but the dusty shoulder out of here to beat and

1369
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 1: rocking and sitting. All of a sudden, he's gonna take

1370
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: the vocal. Yeah, explain, Tell the story, the story of

1371
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: how you said, you said jay Z helped you when

1372
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: you're at your worst. We've heard stories about him, what

1373
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: he did for little Wayne. We heard what he did.

1374
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: You know, Wayne had some tax trouble. Jay Z a Claire.

1375
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: He let DM leave. It was was in debt. Let

1376
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: him leave, I think, uh point in one Savage helped

1377
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: him get an immigration lawyer.

1378
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 3: So we've heard these great stories.

1379
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: No matter what people try to say bad about him,

1380
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: negative about him, but we hear more positive great stories.

1381
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 3: Tell your story.

1382
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 1: So you remember when I caught the COVID and kidney

1383
01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: failure and all that, Yeah, yeah, jay Z chunk me

1384
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 1: a lifeline. And you know when I had the the

1385
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: the kidney and the COVID and the kidney. Yeah, DJ

1386
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: Kalen chunk me a lifeline. Yeah, So can't nobody tell

1387
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: me shit about jay Z and DJ Callen wow because

1388
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: they chunk me a lifeline an and and uh.

1389
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 3: You know I I I gotta I'm thankful. Yeah you

1390
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Cause I was, I was, I

1391
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: didn't I wasn't working right, but yeah, so shut out

1392
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 3: the whole end.

1393
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: DJ Calent, You know I always I always talked to

1394
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: uh when I talk to jay Z. Call him the

1395
01:15:57,640 --> 01:15:59,440
Speaker 1: keeper of the culture man, cause.

1396
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: He do that big brother shit.

1397
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, y you think y you think a

1398
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: whole would do another album for what?

1399
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: Cause people say, like.

1400
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: For him, for what he's got a it like it's

1401
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: got a movie. It's like it's gotta be something that

1402
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: like that calls out to him and right now, ain't

1403
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 1: nothing called him.

1404
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, man, So let me say this.

1405
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: So I saw I I won't be misunderstood. He don't

1406
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 1: have no reason to rap no more. You know, we

1407
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: rap because we was hungry, man, you know what I mean,

1408
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: right like we we we spoke our we spoke our

1409
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: heart and told I was signed the story.

1410
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 3: Because we were starving. Man. You know, we ain't starving

1411
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: no more.

1412
01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I do after that, man,

1413
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: not starving And man, got kids. You see how he's

1414
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 1: prepping them girls. Man, you see that.

1415
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy and it man, it's unbelievable. Man.

1416
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: How and and I've been I've been knowing uh that

1417
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: baby saying she was a baby baby.

1418
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 3: And to see up there with our mama, I'm like cool.

1419
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: I called him man, I say, boy, Wayne, did we

1420
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: tell you that?

1421
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: Ain't Wayne? I mean that Warren Warren Warren. We can't

1422
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 3: help it. He can't help it. He can't, he cannot

1423
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: he cannot help that ship. Man.

1424
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: Ever since we was kids, brouh, he was always on

1425
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 1: the phone.

1426
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: He always on the phone. Always he on the phone, sleep,

1427
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 3: he on the phone, facetimeed driving and not saying nothing

1428
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: we got we gotta do better. Like he just on

1429
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 3: the look his his earphones.

1430
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: He is on the phone and he ain't talking about

1431
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: ship because his mouth ain't even moving.

1432
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 3: He just might be listening to a beat. He not

1433
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 3: listening to no beat. That nigga can't rapkind damn. Oh,

1434
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 3: help me understand this.

1435
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: I know you heard it because he was He came

1436
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: on Nightcap Jim Jones and his influence and.

1437
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 3: Nods you cool with Jim. I love Jim Jones, but

1438
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 3: he got his mind on it. I don't know why you.

1439
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say ship about nothing. You okay with beefs?

1440
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 1: You ever had a rap beef with anybody? No, I

1441
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: ain't got no. I don't want no beef. I don't

1442
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: when you when you when you? And I don't know

1443
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: if a beef good belief beef? No, nigga, what you

1444
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: want to do? Like like all that talking, nigga, what

1445
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: you want to do?

1446
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 3: Like all that talk? What you want to do? They

1447
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 3: want to talk? I mean I don't want anything talk.

1448
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 3: What you want to do? Well, keep my mouth, name

1449
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 3: out your mouth.

1450
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:08,559
Speaker 1: Punk, it's gonna say shit about me like that's how

1451
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: I feel about it.

1452
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: That's how you feel about it. So you ain't gonna

1453
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 3: have no beef. I'm nigga. I'm done now I'm gonna

1454
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 3: be beef in front now. Yeah, you know what you

1455
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 3: want beef? Oh you want beef now? I ain't rapping

1456
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 3: nohing on you. Now you want a beef? No, I don't.

1457
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't.

1458
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: I don't want no. I don't want no smoke from

1459
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: nobody in all honesty, man, because I can't control what

1460
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: nobody else do. Right, you know what I'm saying I

1461
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: can't control what nobody else do. I ain't got nothing

1462
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: to do with it, right, But I don't have no

1463
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: control over what somebody else do, right and and back.

1464
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: We took that ship so serious and so they did. Man,

1465
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 1: they take it personal, man right, and I don't.

1466
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 3: I don't never want to be involved in that kind

1467
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: of stuff. Man. Right.

1468
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: You have a great relationship with you because you've been

1469
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 1: on a lot of the soundtracks.

1470
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: A mentor.

1471
01:19:55,800 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 1: He's a mentor. You know, he's a mentor. We were

1472
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: re h we made a song may yeah leader, but yeah,

1473
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: he's a mentor.

1474
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 3: You work with master P, you work with some heavy

1475
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: weights face I did.

1476
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: So I was listening to a song i'm'a go get

1477
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: a cube shit, So I'm listening to the uh we

1478
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: listen to a record of Men and Cube?

1479
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 3: Did we?

1480
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: We sitting in the studio listening together, right, And I'm

1481
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: listening and he listening, and I'm like and he like,

1482
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: He's like, is that you or me? I said, I

1483
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: don't know, noamn, because that's how similar our styles and

1484
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: delivery is. You know, that's how much influenced that and

1485
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 1: I an impact that he has that had on my career, right,

1486
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Cause it's certain shit that

1487
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: we don't know the difference between you, like I have

1488
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 1: songs with Cube that we don't we don't know the difference.

1489
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 3: Wow, who's who? You know?

1490
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: You can tell in the rap part what you can't

1491
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 1: tell in certain areas where you're saying shit like who

1492
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: is that?

1493
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 3: That's you? No, No, that's me, No, that's me. We're

1494
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: your ghost writing.

1495
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: Because some people like it's okay then some people like,

1496
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean cause nobody nobody now I think.

1497
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 3: Now who cares? Really? Yeah? Okay?

1498
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: But back then, yeah, ef see Light said at the best,

1499
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: he said, whoever wrote your rhymes might as well hold

1500
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: your microphone.

1501
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 3: Damn. But now I don't give a fuck. I'm not

1502
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 3: in no more. I don't care, right do you? How

1503
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: do you get that?

1504
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 1: That's like everything has changed, man, They had to know

1505
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: snitch policy and effect.

1506
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: Everything has changed. Everybody telling everybody business truth. Yeah, so

1507
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:56,719
Speaker 3: now things have changed, bro, so to write the rhyme policy.

1508
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever.

1509
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 1: Drake moved Houston. You ain't tell him not to come.

1510
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: Drake don't live in Houston.

1511
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 3: He got a place in Houston.

1512
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 1: He live in the country. So I want to live

1513
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: in the country too. Okay, go more than the country

1514
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 1: you have. You have more fun out there, but you

1515
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of well n hell no, I know

1516
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: what you're trying to look, I'm just just show me around.

1517
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: You show me where I need to live. Face, I'll

1518
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: show you where you need to live. Okay, But after

1519
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 1: that that's it. Nah, I'm not gonna know with you.

1520
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: Faith we feel like, hey, we gonna kick it.

1521
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: I know you line, we gonna kick it.

1522
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I know Drake said UK rappers are better than American rappers.

1523
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 3: I don't know a whole lot of UK rappers. I

1524
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 3: I you know what, I don't know.

1525
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't know any UK rappers, but I don't have

1526
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: nothing against them in the UK or But just like

1527
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 1: me saying Kobe was better than Jordan, Yeah, you know

1528
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: you had a blueprint to study, right, you know what

1529
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, Jordan created the blueprint for you to study.

1530
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: So for for Kobe to be better than him, that's

1531
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 1: a possibility, right. You know, if you study the blueprint enough,

1532
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: you probably you you be c excuse me, you become

1533
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 1: the blueprint.

1534
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1535
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: So if UK rappers are better than the rappers from

1536
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: the United States, they had enough to study true, Okay, yeah,

1537
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: and they had enough time to study it, alright, So

1538
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 1: no comment.

1539
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's my comment. If you were to.

1540
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 1: Get let's say, you know what, somebody get faced to

1541
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 1: come out. Who would you like to get on the

1542
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: beat with nobody? Can't nobody get you to come out

1543
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,839
Speaker 1: of retirement. I'm done. I got on cubes. Uh uh

1544
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 1: uh uh w uh ego. Yeah, but that's it. That's

1545
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: that's best you gonna do. Yeah, ICEQ, I can come

1546
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: out for ICEQ. Okay, I did come up with cube, right. Houston?

1547
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: You got Beyonce, you got Med, you got Travis Scott,

1548
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 1: you got Lizzo, you got Bro, you got bun Bee.

1549
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 3: Y'ah.

1550
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: What what's what's the Houston? What what are we missing

1551
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 1: about Houston?

1552
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 3: Hell? The cat out the bag now? Everybody moving now?

1553
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:21,480
Speaker 1: Got room for one bo hell no because you bring company?

1554
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh we got some dope ass artists. Man,

1555
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: you missed, you missing a lot out of out of Houston. Man,

1556
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: you know you're missing a lot. You got you got

1557
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: uh uh clims of Native Key keys a Native yeah,

1558
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Paul Paul yeah, yeah, Little Keky yeah, Kiki yeah, Sauces Walker, Yeah,

1559
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: Clay Kylie on like you got some he coming out

1560
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: of Houston, Man, they can't really go. Krino is one

1561
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: of the guys that came up a little before I did,

1562
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: and I think he's the epitome of what Houston rap

1563
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: should have been, right, you know I could have been

1564
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 1: because he's a lyrical.

1565
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 3: Uh giant in it. You know.

1566
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, he's on my UH album. I can't

1567
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: remember the song, but he's on the Emeritus album with

1568
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 1: the song of me sliming in Uh Krino, But he's

1569
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: a he's a pillar in in in in in Houston,

1570
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 1: Uh hip hop man.

1571
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 3: And it's a few more. But we got some smoke

1572
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: out there. Man here you do you do? You know?

1573
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: Do you think people start beats now just to get attention?

1574
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,799
Speaker 1: Cause I see a lot of people going there somebody

1575
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: that I like.

1576
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 3: I ain't even know they were beefing. When did this happen?

1577
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: And you're asking about rapping, man, I don't know too

1578
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:54,839
Speaker 1: much about it no more. You know, I always started it.

1579
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 3: When yah ma, motherfucking wind the clothing, i'm'ara get one,

1580
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: but n I got de edit. But oh you got

1581
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: a name?

1582
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: So do when when when you when you beefing with somebody, man,

1583
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: somebody actually did something to you back then, Okay, yeah, okay,

1584
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, and and when you saw each other, you fought,

1585
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: all right. Perfect example is like uh Ice Cuban w

1586
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: A when Cbe left the group and Uh they both

1587
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: were at the New Music sitting or in New York.

1588
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: They fought all right.

1589
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when you gotta when you got a beef, man,

1590
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: they fight, You fight. You did somebody on record, when

1591
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: you see him, you gotta be prepared to do whatever

1592
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: you gotta do.

1593
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kanye, Now nowadays they just talking. They're just talking. Yeah,

1594
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 3: it's just they rapping. Yeah, Kanye, you you work with Kanye?

1595
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 3: I did what what's Kanye you like in the studio

1596
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: when I was working with man Kanye and Bamon He's

1597
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 3: bad bro. Oh you got Kanye Cole Kanye Cole cold. Yeah.

1598
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: I think sometimes we forget about that face. Come and

1599
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 1: see some of the antics that's got going on now. Yeah,

1600
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 1: but you go back and look at college dropper.

1601
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Ruh.

1602
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 1: No, wait, bruh, bruh. When Kanye Uh would come to

1603
01:27:11,200 --> 01:27:13,840
Speaker 1: the studio. See, Kanye was a producer man before he

1604
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: started rapping. Correct, Okay, and he always that's him on

1605
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: the d I want to guess who's basire is man, Man, Man, Oh,

1606
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: that's that's uh, that's Kanye.

1607
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 3: Wow.

1608
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 1: But Kanye when he back when he was making beach

1609
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 1: Man like, he played beats.

1610
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 3: For days and days and days and he just sit

1611
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 3: there and play me and they'd be like, man, wow.

1612
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: I got so many beats from Kanye, uh, from the

1613
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 1: from the Fixed album and working on other stuff. But

1614
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 1: I got a lot of music with Kanye that never

1615
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 1: uh that I never put out right. But Kanye was

1616
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: the the producer, man, and we had that. We had

1617
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: a a a tight ass producer rapper relationship.

1618
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 3: Man. And that was my friend too. Man, that's my

1619
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 3: partner right, you know.

1620
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: And that fork, that fork in the road. You know,

1621
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: we all started together. I always feel like me and

1622
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Jay and and Yay and DMX and IRV, and.

1623
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 3: We were all in the office together. We was all

1624
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 3: in the office together, and we was leaving. We was riding.

1625
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: We was riding, and then they went here and I

1626
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'm finna go home. I

1627
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: went home, man, And I don't feel bad about going home,

1628
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,759
Speaker 1: bro right, I don't feel bad about going home because

1629
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I don't ever wanna be in the position where I

1630
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: can't enjoy what you had me.

1631
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: I just wanna enjoy me, bro, you know, enjoy my life,

1632
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:02,559
Speaker 3: Enjoy the.

1633
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Fruits of my labor, you know, which ain't the whole

1634
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: lot of shit, but it's mine. And I ain't gotta

1635
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: have no seventy five traveling with me when I go somewhere,

1636
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't have to hide

1637
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: and ship, man. I don't want to hide. I don't

1638
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: want to run from nobody, you know. I just want

1639
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: to wave better and going on by my business. So

1640
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,959
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too famous. Never right. Sampling

1641
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: worry you on sample? You let somebody sample some of

1642
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: your stuff? And if they do, do you have to

1643
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: hear it? I don't care. I don't care about nothing

1644
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: that got anything to do with this no more. Damn

1645
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: very very bitter about it. Why you're so bitter about it?

1646
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 3: I just.

1647
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 1: You feel you were wronged. Taking advantage of the music

1648
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: industry within itself is wrong. Okay, all right? If you

1649
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: look at I w I would like to compare contracts.

1650
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: I would like to compare a beastie boy's contract to

1651
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 1: a ghetto boy's contract or you know what I mean?

1652
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:16,600
Speaker 1: I I'd like to see uh so I'd like to

1653
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: see other genre artists artists.

1654
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to.

1655
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: See a a Mazed contract as opposed to a Van

1656
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Halen contract. Mm, you know what I mean? Like, I

1657
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: know it's a big, big uh difference between the pay

1658
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: skills in those contracts, but yeah it's not.

1659
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 3: Nah bruh m hm. So I don't care what they

1660
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 3: do with it. What do you know now? You wish

1661
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 3: you had known then? I don't. I don't. I don't

1662
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 3: want to change nothing about it. You know. I'm right

1663
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 3: where I want to be. Really, yeah, I'm not. I don't.

1664
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 3: I don't need no whole lot, you know what I mean? Like,

1665
01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't need a lot. You paying when I come

1666
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 3: to Houston. You're paying.

1667
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna reach in your back pocket, pull out your

1668
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you maybe you carry a money

1669
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,839
Speaker 1: clip or something whatever, and you're gonna put that down.

1670
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: On what you know? I like? You know, I like,

1671
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,800
Speaker 3: oh you Yeah? No? Bro? Hung up? How I'm gonna

1672
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,320
Speaker 3: come to Houston and you think I won't pay? Bro,

1673
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm in Vegas and I ain't even had lunch yet.

1674
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: And it's it's six o'clock. I haven't even had breakfast.

1675
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out how that get to be

1676
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 3: my fault. I'm doing club Shade Shade we we.

1677
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 1: We we you know, tight budget right now, no bushit,

1678
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:54,480
Speaker 1: no bus shit. This concludes the first half of my conversation.

1679
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Part two is also posted, and you can access it

1680
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: to whichever podcast platform you just listen to part one on.

1681
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Just simply go back to club profile and I'll see

1682
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 1: you there.