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<v Speaker 1>The Around the NFL Podcast, now available in Pumpkin Spikes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey Dan, she'd say, what's

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<v Speaker 1>up girl? Big development behind the glass. On Tuesday's show, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke of uh Sydney's misfortune the week prior, when,

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<v Speaker 1>upon hearing that a old Juicer f bomb had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>into the final version of our podcast. Um, she turned

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<v Speaker 1>around her car started racing back to the office to

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<v Speaker 1>make the exit, makes make the edit, and UH rear

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<v Speaker 1>ended somebody bad news and she got banged with a

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<v Speaker 1>beefy mechanic Bill And we said, well, what can we do?

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<v Speaker 1>What can I do save our Sydney? And I reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to the greatest listeners in the world and we

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<v Speaker 1>asked uh a go fund Me account, if possible, we

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<v Speaker 1>could set it up. The subreddit led by the Fearless

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<v Speaker 1>leader over there, greeby that guy he is. He's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys you want the Fox, the foxhol He's

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<v Speaker 1>like the wolf from pulp fiction. It's like the Wolf.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos

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<v Speaker 1>with my son this week. In The Avengers Captain America,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like the point man about Michael Clayton, the Ultimate Fixer.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely little Clayton, the Ultimate in a big UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was working at a coffee shop last night. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw David Hasselhoff there. That's not connected to this story

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<v Speaker 1>at all, but I did see that Greeby had put

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<v Speaker 1>up a go fund me and UM with a goal

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred dollars, which sid you said, that was basically

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<v Speaker 1>what you were looking at for your repair that you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay out to your insurance. It's called a

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<v Speaker 1>deductible deductible. And within three hours we had reached that goal.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I woke up this morning and I checked, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I checked that go fund me again, Greeby had to

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down. Almost a thousand dollars raised, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was posted at midnight Eastern essentially it started. So

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<v Speaker 1>we should mention that, uh, mr F. Well, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to call out special attention to UM. A few people here,

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Willman, Mr F Bolt, Drop, Benjamin in a big spot,

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Lowler fifty Bones, and then uh Bruno Gagnon, forty Bones,

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<v Speaker 1>A J. Smith, Keith Woodley, and Tom Shawn and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know everybody else. It was I believe over fifty

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<v Speaker 1>uh for fifty four exactly donations before Greeby shut it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh to get to that final total of I know

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<v Speaker 1>already said it, but I forgot that we had this

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<v Speaker 1>drops that was a long drum said, the floor is yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any comments for the listeners who have

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<v Speaker 1>made your life better on this Thanksgiving? You? Yeah? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just speaks to the amazing listeners that

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<v Speaker 1>we have. I mean, I woke up this morning and

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<v Speaker 1>inside a tweet from Kevin Patra that had a screenshot

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<v Speaker 1>of like, I think eight fifty at that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what a way to wake up. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even I'm kind of in shock, and everything

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<v Speaker 1>feels very surreal at this point. Well, we had to

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<v Speaker 1>shut down before Sydney got you know, rims and tinted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that she was talking up here before

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<v Speaker 1>you guys came up that. Oh it's you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>got the deductible, paid them so so thankful, but with

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<v Speaker 1>an extra four hundred and fifty, it's like I'm gonna go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have clothing to buy. I've got new sweaters at

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<v Speaker 1>some like. I'm not sure that's where the the extra

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<v Speaker 1>money should go. Yeah, I also have sandwiches to buy,

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich is to buy. I mean if we I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know and said, maybe you could figure it out that

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<v Speaker 1>that will be Maybe what do we do with the

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<v Speaker 1>excess money once you know for sure what the bill

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<v Speaker 1>is and you know, hell, you know, maybe you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the fast past of Disneyland. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it's your money, right, I don't know. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Disney is incredibly expected. Greg's shot down immediately. Sydney having

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<v Speaker 1>the money to herself, Well, you're the one who came

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<v Speaker 1>up with the idea to donate it. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good idea. Yeah, and then Mark had the

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<v Speaker 1>idea this is all on I am a client that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't speak of. That maybe Sydney should have a

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<v Speaker 1>role in the decision making process. It is technically her fundage.

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<v Speaker 1>It is I one thing that went buried here. You've

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a second job at a coffee shop. What why? Well? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I right there, I write at the Coffee Bean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a creepy place. It made it sound like you were

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have another child. You're not a barista,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, Jo Yes. In fact, you could check

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<v Speaker 1>out my latest end around column where I actually went

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<v Speaker 1>through every single NFL auction item. Last night, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in that coffee shop for four hours and wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>about fifteen of my favorite offerings for the NFL fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you run into Gunter? I didn't see Gunther there.

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<v Speaker 1>Gut is like feeling himself out in the Hollywood Hills,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. We did mention Mr f who donated a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred dollars towards Sydney's cause he is the sponsor of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, his entire economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, today's show on Tuesday show again, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a different week because Thanksgiving here and

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<v Speaker 1>the Estados unidos is it un French? Um, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a different schedule, so we have

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<v Speaker 1>another show right here a day later. We broke down

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<v Speaker 1>the Thanksgiving Thursday games, but there are no buys this week.

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<v Speaker 1>That means two teams, sixteen games. Nobody am by, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have thirteen more to get to. Even I can

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<v Speaker 1>do that math strong what about thirteen times too. How

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<v Speaker 1>many teams involved nailed it. What's wonderful is they have

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<v Speaker 1>us previewing games on so many different platforms that in

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<v Speaker 1>another part of the Internet, we've already previewed half these

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<v Speaker 1>games yesterday, making this show especially fresh. I'm sure for

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<v Speaker 1>the four of them, Sessler Math, there literally one one

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<v Speaker 1>game of these that we previewed ahead of What did

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<v Speaker 1>I get on a state mandated Math? Much more than that,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to know? What was? What did you do? What?

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<v Speaker 1>I was horrible at Math? Absolutely horrible? Okay, so we

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<v Speaker 1>have all these games to get to. Why don't we start, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get right to it. Sydney's got a glow. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually there's like an orb around her to feel so love.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you cry when you saw it all? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get choked up? Our emotional Yeah, you know a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of overwhelmed by the whole thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just kind of drove home like how lucky I

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<v Speaker 1>am to be a part of this crew and with

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<v Speaker 1>these fans, like legitimately the best listeners, our listeners, We

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<v Speaker 1>have the greatest listeners in the world. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>little trumpy, the best the best listeners in the world. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, and they proved it again. Especially check out

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<v Speaker 1>that subreddit because a lot of the great um fun

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from the around the NFL fan base, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>subreddit around the NFL podcast. All right, let's start in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna start. We're gonna kind of ease

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<v Speaker 1>into things here a little bit. Okay, So the Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>Titans still a team that if you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>some exciting football, Uh, you can check out the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>on offense and they're probably gonna get you excited. And

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<v Speaker 1>you would expect uh them to do some things at

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago against the Bears, against Jay Cutler, uh, Greg Rosenthal

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<v Speaker 1>um and Marcus Mariota if he has any designs on

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<v Speaker 1>keeping the Titans of the mix. You gotta take care

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<v Speaker 1>business here and they should and not not against Jay Cutler,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Uh. He was reported to be out for

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Looks like that's the Bears at least are

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<v Speaker 1>disputing that. But we're gonna get Matt Barkley in a

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<v Speaker 1>game that has playoff implications, which is terrible, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why this should be the last thing we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bears in this game. I'm excited to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Mariota against a bad defense. I was thinking when you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching Mariota last week. He is the master of the

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<v Speaker 1>mid range game. He is the equivalent of Carl Malone

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, or Dirk and a Whitsky. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to think of someone with a nice fifteen footer. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the fifth, He's got a feathery touch from He's

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<v Speaker 1>the mid range game. Little Dirk. That guy, now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Rip Hamilton's was good. He reminds me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of Philip Rivers if you take away the running and

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<v Speaker 1>the movement in the pocket. I just mean in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of when he's throwing it. When I think Philip Rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Mariota. I think these on point darts that

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<v Speaker 1>are right in between the zone fifteen to twenty yards

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what he does best. He will carve up

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<v Speaker 1>the soft underbelly of your defense over the right and

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of Chicago's defense. No, Darrell Freeman, he has

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<v Speaker 1>been suspended. That was the second rated inside linebacker league

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<v Speaker 1>wide according to PFF, their best defensive player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. At first of all, that's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If Darrell Freeman's your best defensive player, Like, where's po

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<v Speaker 1>McFee doesn't even play that much for them, which is surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coming off of an injury. Everything that could go

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for this Bears team has has gone wrong. How

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<v Speaker 1>about this greg to that point, and this is from

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<v Speaker 1>our research notes, uh, the Bears are already a talent

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<v Speaker 1>to prive team entering this season. Entering the season by

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<v Speaker 1>the end of last week's Giants games, Chicago at ten

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<v Speaker 1>of its twenty two starters at the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 1>season injured or suspended, and the bears last four first

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<v Speaker 1>round picks are also injured. Kyle Long, Kyle Fuller, Kevin White,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lenny Floyd their starting quarterback. That's that's There's no

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<v Speaker 1>teams coming back from that, especially the Bears their starting

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Jake Cauler, their top two receivers, Alshon Jeffrey and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin White, they're tight end Zach Miller, both Pro Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>guards Kyle Long, and just sitting. All of that missing

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<v Speaker 1>from their offense. And that's great news for the Titans, who,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Browns, are playing their twelfth game this week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the last two teams that will have a bye

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<v Speaker 1>next week, and as bad as that last was to

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<v Speaker 1>the Colts, then they're not gonna have a tiebreaker. You

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<v Speaker 1>can win this game. You get the six and six.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows the next time they might be playing, they

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<v Speaker 1>might be tied for first because the Texans might be six. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's there's a bit of interdivisional luck for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the a f C South because Scott Tolzine

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be starting against the Steelers on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark it's a drop, It's part of the show. Just

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<v Speaker 1>keep going. You can do it. I I love it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't I love it? Don't tell Clay Bond. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the Titans can't beat the Matt Barkley lad Bears, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't deserves Well that's it's a little different. Tell tell

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<v Speaker 1>the hot takes on, Budsman. If you cannot beat this

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<v Speaker 1>talent deprived Bears team, you did not belong in the playoffs. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, you'll be five and seven. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not making the playoff us. UM win the game. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>move on. Uh. Next up? Uh the Jacksonville Jaguars really

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<v Speaker 1>easing into action here today. UH two and a look

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<v Speaker 1>at it this way, we're getting all the dirt eggs

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way, and uh, not a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>great games, actually not the best. It's not a good

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday of games. I think the worst one of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting some of the good ones on Thanksgiving. Just

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<v Speaker 1>matchups didn't work out this week, all right, So here

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Here's the Jacksonville Jaguars, and we know all

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<v Speaker 1>of their troubles this year from the quarterback on down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Two and eight. Now they travel to Buffalo to face

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<v Speaker 1>a five and five Bills team that has very little

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<v Speaker 1>wiggle room. Now, um, they are two games out of

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<v Speaker 1>the final, a f C wild card spot, which tells

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<v Speaker 1>you everything you need to know. The division went by by,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know with the Patriots involved, so they gotta

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<v Speaker 1>win this game. Will miss will Lashawn McCoy be playing

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<v Speaker 1>this game? What are we hearing? Mark Sessler? Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>practiced on a limited basis today on Wednesday, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a huge one of the biggest injuries league.

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<v Speaker 1>Why to monitor because McCoy's season has been fascinating. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's been uh the heart of their offense in

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. And if he's healthy. We saw when he

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<v Speaker 1>was playing against Cincinnati last week looks great, and I

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<v Speaker 1>like this Bill's offense and what they what they've done

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of we are a heavy running team and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna try to overpower people, and you can do

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<v Speaker 1>that against Jacksonville. Jacksonville's played some tight games over the

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<v Speaker 1>last three or four weeks. But if you're Buffalo, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that Tennessee, you cannot slip up here. You're at

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<v Speaker 1>home after this week, you play the Raiders, the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the Browns then, but then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins and the Jets and the Dolphins. The Buffalo Miami

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<v Speaker 1>situation from here to the end of the season. It's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more fascinating divisional races out there. Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>cannot slip up this week. I think this and this

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<v Speaker 1>is not my lock of a week, I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that. I but I think this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the most lopside of games the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bills will come to play and I

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<v Speaker 1>think this game we're you know, we're talking to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>different some applied to fashionist as a Doug Marone revenge game.

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<v Speaker 1>The revenge goes the other way. If anything, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>you're the coach that didn't even say goodbye in person

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<v Speaker 1>to your players. You texted them and jumped out of

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<v Speaker 1>your contract. What revenge. This guy's lucky he has a job.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a Rex Ryan how to say about that? On Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Doug isn't the coach here anymore. I'm blessed to be so,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, I hope it's miserable for him and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Jaguars. That's still the worst coaching move

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen leaving well, it was Hubris. Larkey did a

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<v Speaker 1>very similar thing also to Buffalo, sitting on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL world. Now I was sitting. I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the news room working a a t N shift on

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<v Speaker 1>New Year's Eve when this happened. And at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was reported that he was well respected for the

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<v Speaker 1>job he did in Buffalo because talks to the inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets were supposed to were especially interested. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a Bronx native. And there there are people who believe

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<v Speaker 1>the calumnists for the Daily News Minish Meta played a

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<v Speaker 1>heavy role in Moron not getting that Jets job because

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<v Speaker 1>he completely went after um Moron in a series of

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<v Speaker 1>columns and uh, the Jets ownership does listen to what's written. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what Doug Morone did in Buffalo. He led

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<v Speaker 1>them to a winning record, and no one has done

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<v Speaker 1>that for Kyle Williams. And Kyle Williams is entire ten

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<v Speaker 1>or eleven, I'm not sure what season he's on his

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<v Speaker 1>entire career. This is a guy that one day is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in the Bill's Ring of Honor, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's having a monster season. I mean, I think he's

0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>been a really good story. How good Kyle Williams has been.

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<v Speaker 1>Win one for Kyle. Send him to the playoffs. There

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<v Speaker 1>is one note in this game we should mention. Sammy

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<v Speaker 1>Watkins is back. He said that he is finally one

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<v Speaker 1>d I feel like the guy has not been fully

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<v Speaker 1>healthy in forever. He says he's one percent at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Off was good. Real quick state of the Bills before

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<v Speaker 1>we leave this game. Do we all agree that Rex

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyrod Taylor are both coming back into the Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what happens. I would say this is Rex

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan's revenge tour from here on out, because right here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll start with myself. I watched this guy out of

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<v Speaker 1>town a month or two ago, and he is proving

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<v Speaker 1>everyone that he could still coach. I think they have

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<v Speaker 1>to go over five and I think I gotta win

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<v Speaker 1>night games. I really do. Tyrod Taylor has definitely exceeded

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<v Speaker 1>my expectations. Their their injury situation on offense has been

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<v Speaker 1>brutal at receiver. Maybe they get walking back. I honestly

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<v Speaker 1>think if he wins two or three more games, seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight wins, he should be good. The locker room

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<v Speaker 1>is with him this year where it was not parts

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<v Speaker 1>of it last year. That's fair. Let's uh move on

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about an a f C North game that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, A schedulemakers probably thought this had a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little better when it initially the season started.

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<v Speaker 1>Here the three, six and one Bengals UH traveling to

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore to face the five and five Ravens, and UH

0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Mark Sessler this this Cincinnati team does not have a

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<v Speaker 1>great chance. Missing a J. Green right, A J. Green year, Bernard,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're missing a lot more even with the

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<v Speaker 1>players Green Green is Green is a top three NFL

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and you've lost him. In last week. It felt

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<v Speaker 1>like watching them against the Bills that the Bills secondary

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<v Speaker 1>completely swallowed up anything that the Bengals wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>through the air. One of those interceptions for Dalton were

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<v Speaker 1>not on him. It bounced off Tyler Reifford's chest, but

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<v Speaker 1>he almost third a third through a third interception because

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<v Speaker 1>there was just nobody open. And and you lose Bernard

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing game. That's big two. But I look

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<v Speaker 1>at also Jeremy Hill and stay, where's the foundational running

0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.360
<v Speaker 1>game from this offense? What is it that they can

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<v Speaker 1>go out planned to do and accomplish nothing? Because that

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.880
<v Speaker 1>offensive line has been worked over all year and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a horrible matchup for the Bengals. The bill. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens are a top two defense this year in many categories,

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<v Speaker 1>and they play even better at home, as we've mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>many times. And I think their offense is starting to

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<v Speaker 1>get healthy too, with Steve Smith back and playing at

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<v Speaker 1>a high level. Their running game did some good thing

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<v Speaker 1>that Dallas, even though they again abandon it like a

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<v Speaker 1>Derre licked helse in the middle of The Bengals are

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<v Speaker 1>so unlucky in many different ways, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>is now you have a better Andy Dalton, and now

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.800
<v Speaker 1>you have a worse team around and Andy Dalton. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have been nice to have this Andy Dalton on

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<v Speaker 1>the team or a healthy one last year a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years ago, because I think it's gonna be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the toughest six weeks of Andy Dalton's career. This

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is a tough situation. He started to look like the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line issues are affecting him. He's becoming more hesitant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's natural, and you know, if things go south here,

0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.919
<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna start that whole Like, is this a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that can lift up our franchise. I don't think

0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be fair. I think he's fine. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't when I watch Bengals games, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like Dalton where he was previous to two seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>two or three seasons ago, Dalton was an absolute disaster

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<v Speaker 1>in I think he's played well. I think he's not

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<v Speaker 1>the issue, But the last few weeks I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>become hesitant. The two weeks I believe since they come

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<v Speaker 1>back from the by he hasn't quite been the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's out of the woods though. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as how that organization in fan base view him, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that like the I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation about Marvin Lewis yesterday. I think the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>as an organization should be able to wash their hands

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<v Speaker 1>in the season and say this one just it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>like the Ravens last year. When you have this many injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you really assess what happened to all?

0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Suggs also playing really well. It's I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>in the Are they gonna win that the water? These

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.640
<v Speaker 1>old defensive guys coming back from serious injuries. What Kyle

0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Williams and Terrell Suggs and it's like that it never happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting theory that something's in the water. Wow, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know modern medicine, the sports going on. I think sports

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<v Speaker 1>medicine is definitely starting to shift things. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, wrong, which I don't think I will be

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<v Speaker 1>about hashtag slight regression, it's time to really take a

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<v Speaker 1>close look at what's happening. That's that's maybe a long form.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the spin cycle's half point that if

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<v Speaker 1>if slight regression doesn't occur, you're you're going to launch

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<v Speaker 1>an investigation on sports medicine. People on havel to the

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL will already launch an investigation into the Patriots again,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Ted Wales will have a seventy three million

0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.280
<v Speaker 1>dollar report that proves not the Let's put James Harrison

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<v Speaker 1>on the cover of that report. Well that that's my

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<v Speaker 1>long form. Will get into all these alright, waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>all these different players, Brady first and foremost. Um moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals. Oh boy, four or five and one? Did

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 1>we fork them on Tuesday? So in our opinion, it's

0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.240
<v Speaker 1>all over for the Cardinals. But I still have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to hang around on the race if they can

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<v Speaker 1>knock off the six and four Falcons in Atlanta. The Falcons,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, last year struggled in the second half, but

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<v Speaker 1>this feels like a much different team, especially with the

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<v Speaker 1>offense they have. But I will say this, Chris Wesling,

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals have the number one ranked defense in the league

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Uh, and perhaps that could be the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree here, Well, I think if you watched it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>you watched the Vikings game and Troy Hickman says, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long time since I've seen a quarterback take

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<v Speaker 1>as many hits as Carson Palmer took today. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals hit even harder than the Vikings did in

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the game. The Cardinals were swarming to the ball on

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<v Speaker 1>defense and beating the crap out of the Vikings. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at that game, the Vikings third points came

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<v Speaker 1>on an interception return, a kickoff return, a trick play

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>flee flicker out of the wildcat, and one long drive

0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 1>which was three personal fouls on the Cardinals. It wasn't

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:38.119
<v Speaker 1>that the Vikings were beating the Cardinals defense. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>what if? What if the last year's Cardinals had this defense?

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's a super Bowl team. It shows you

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<v Speaker 1>the limited I don't think they're the best defense in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, by the way. I mean, I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>ranked into the yards allowed, but I think it's legit

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>to call them a top five group. And they've certainly

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:55.679
<v Speaker 1>won that Chandler Jones trade. I would much rather have

0:20:55.800 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones than that draft pick. Yeah, definitely. Um I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what, boys, I think the card This is

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<v Speaker 1>a wounded animal game for the Cardinals. It's basically win

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<v Speaker 1>or go home in a lot of ways for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think all these flaws that we're seeing week

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<v Speaker 1>after week where they just don't have the magic, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's gonna come through here with a a resounding

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<v Speaker 1>Falcons winning That's why, gentlemen, I'm gonna lock it up.

0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Falcons will move to seven or four. The Falcons irrelevant

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>or Cardinals irrelevant. Locked it. Watching the Falcons offense this

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<v Speaker 1>year is like watching the Cardinals offense last year. Everything's

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<v Speaker 1>clicking and you don't have the offensive line issues that

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<v Speaker 1>the Cardinals. Well, he's been hit a lot. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>last game we saw. You know, the Eagles got after

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan. I wouldn't look because they have offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>QB hits stats on NFL dot Com, which is surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we have individual QB hits. That's that's just

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<v Speaker 1>a minor think. The Falcons giving up the six months

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<v Speaker 1>QB hits in the entire league on Matt Ryan and

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe maybe this is a game they can get

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<v Speaker 1>after him a little bit. But the Cardinals have no

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>answer every It's all David Johnson everything, and he can

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<v Speaker 1>handle it. He's making unbelievable play. He's twenties five to

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>thirty touches a week at this point. That's a tough

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>pace to keep up for Johnson. Cardinals only have four wins,

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<v Speaker 1>and we said they've been against the Buccaneers, the Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Forts twice. To your point, Greg Carson, Palmer's

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>passer rating to Larry Fitzgerald is over a hundred, and

0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it's under to both John Brown and Michael Floyd. David

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is the second best wide receiver on the team

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and they're lining him up and it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>He's insane. We should give you, I mean, we take

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<v Speaker 1>it for granted at this point how good David Johnson is,

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<v Speaker 1>but he is. He has made the leap and then some.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he has been absolutely insane. You asked what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's there. If you can't, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>your offensive line is gonna fall apart in the middle

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of the season. We've already talked about teams on the

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>show where that's the case and your offense gets reduced

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<v Speaker 1>to one fit of what it was. But you also

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.040
<v Speaker 1>had guys like John Brown who looked primed to become

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>got issues. He has all type a lot of this stuff.

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Was talking to DJ Move the Sticks, great podcast. He

0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.640
<v Speaker 1>has pretty good. He puts a lot of stock into

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.360
<v Speaker 1>your offseason theory. He thinks Palmer's cooked. He doesn't think

0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Palmer's coming back, and he thinks that game was a

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<v Speaker 1>big reason why he watched him in the pocket. He

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to slide to his left. He's really reluctant

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that. One last note from Bruce Arians, who

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 1>was in the hospital again uh recently, but should be

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>on the sidelines for this game. Uh. Kent Summers of

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Republic reported that Arians is not happy with

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick Robert kim d J h doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough, the coach said, Kim d chakim d chackim

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<v Speaker 1>d J. Why did you fall out that wheel though?

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<v Speaker 1>Im d jac m d J k m d J.

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<v Speaker 1>You must work harder to be Joe Potentio. Beautiful, pretty good,

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<v Speaker 1>just beautiful. Its poignant moment here. I'm gonna write that

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<v Speaker 1>story up. Look at the Cardinals. Three of their last

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<v Speaker 1>Footmance song. Yeah, I'm gonna include that in there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask Sydney for the tape and put that in

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<v Speaker 1>the article. Three of their last four first round picks

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<v Speaker 1>are Kim d J d J. Humphries and Jonathan Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>They got nothing out of those guys as rookies. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to be a contender, you can't. You

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.280
<v Speaker 1>can't keep doing that well. I would say that. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see that until now because last offseason we were

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about the Cardinals for a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>valid reasons as the premier team in the NFC when

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>it comes to developing, drafting and developing players, they were

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>already not doing that. You're they're taking their knowingly drafting

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>players who are projects in the first round when other

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.439
<v Speaker 1>teams have decided we're not ready to take them in

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<v Speaker 1>the first round because they're gonna take a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years to be ready. Um, let's move on. You know

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>who had another good mid range jump shot? Great eighteen footer,

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Charles Oakley. Yeah, it's not Will that be the eighth

0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>person that we compare Marcus Mariotta two on this show.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not even about Mario anymore. It's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>first thing of Oakley's game. It wasn't. I mean, he

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 1>was a brawler and a bruiser and a great teammate

0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:15.000
<v Speaker 1>or like Bill Wennington. But realized that stroked a little

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Ricky Pierce action Ricky Pierce, but a great six man.

0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a grade eighteen footer. Uh, Bill Amber too, lamboknt stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, we traveled to hear that phrase, let's travel

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to oh, the Factory of Sadness, where the Cleveland Browns

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.440
<v Speaker 1>are and eleven looking for that first win, And here

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>come the New York Giants, who have seven wins seven

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and three, riding a five game winning streak. Um, I

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>believe we have Josh McCown again behind center. Is that correct?

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>MRSSS correct? Yes, Cody Kesler was concussed last week. Uh.

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile Eli Manning plays because Eli Mann has never

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>missed a game, which shows you the schism between these

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>two franchises. But anyway, Mark Sessler, well, just it's funny,

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely, it's not funny. But the Browns about six

0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks this year. The Giants have had one. For the

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.919
<v Speaker 1>passage is far from Uh. Yes, Now, I was going

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to say, and it's a it's a credit to Eli.

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a little underrated. His brother kind of got a

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of that and far obviously, but Eli might pass him,

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>who knows. But anyway, Mark, is this the week that

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the Browns get off the Snot? No? And I realized,

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I said, we've already discussed this game

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>on multiple other platforms. There is a clown car, a

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.879
<v Speaker 1>trio of clowns floating around in a clown car. Who

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<v Speaker 1>all picked this game in favor of the Browns, And

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's on YouTube. Greg, I forgot about that.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I forgot so angry that you picked this. You blew

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>up the segment to you know, as a spoiler alert,

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>give us not giving you your moment, NFL pick you

0:26:56.480 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>of all people, you guys asking me to give you

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>guys your moment. Well, I thought I was alone and

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>making I don't know. You have often said on this podcast. Look,

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the numbers to back it up. I

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>don't have any kind of fancy logic. I just have

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a feeling that's going to happen. And for the first

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 1>time all year, I have a feeling the Browns are

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:18.679
<v Speaker 1>going to shake up the football world a little bit.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 1>That everybody's patting the Giants on the back this year

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>like they're legitimate seven and three. They're lucky to be seven,

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.879
<v Speaker 1>and this is a nine or ten win team, the

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>fewest the fewest. Mark Conroy wrote a good article about

0:27:30.320 --> 0:27:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it earlier this week, The smallest margin of victory for

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<v Speaker 1>a seven win team in NFL history for seven wins,

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.959
<v Speaker 1>and that said, the whole league is a rather watered

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>down operation right now, So I don't have a problem.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.360
<v Speaker 1>The Giants, to me, don't stand out is the one

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 1>team in the league that doesn't deserve their record. Well

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't. I'm a little confused right now because you

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you're saying the Breton Giants aren't that good, They're not

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 1>as good as their record, said on the record that

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna win in the Browns, I just said that

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with them winning close games that

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>teams all around the league don't deserve their record the Giants.

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the Giants are a six win team or a

0:28:10.040 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>five win team, but they're not a bad team. But

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I know that this is a different regime now in

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>New York. But the Giants they they'll get games here

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and there, and this feels like the one They shouldn't

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be eight and three after eleven games. And this is

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>also like kind of like it's not really the right

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>way to analyze sports at all. But the Giants don't

0:28:27.800 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're going to be an eight and three team.

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I think seven and four is definitely appropriate, if not

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>six and five. So I think this is where they

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>get pinched. And I think the Browns winning I think

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we're all in agreement that Cleveland probably is going to

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>go about one in fifteen, So that win is coming coming.

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>It's got to come at some point. You're running out

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of times. It might be the easiest one on the schedule.

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>This is the left Bengals are left. I would say,

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Bengals here, here's the thing. The Browns are getting worse.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>That's the I totally agree with. Browns have been getting

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>completely agree their defense, if it was even semi tight

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>over the first month. They're losing players. There's players that

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>have been injured. They've got absolutely nothing in their secondary.

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>And now you're, oh, it's let's stop Odell Beckham, let's

0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>stop Sterling Shepard, let's stop a run game. It's actually

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better than it's been in the past,

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 1>which means it will be good against Cleveland. Well, the

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Bears were right there with the Giants, and you know,

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying not to bury this Giants team, and and

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 1>for a second last week I started thinking, you know what,

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>they are coming around a little bit. They are able

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to run the football with Rashad Jennings. They are able

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>to hit a few big players in the passing game,

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 1>which was not happening early in the season. They're making

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>some progress. But then they're playing the Bears and they've

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>got a touchdown lead and their last five possessions of

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that game, they had two first downs. They could not

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>put that game away. They just all the momentum. I'm thinking, Okay,

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>this is starting to look good. They just stopped and

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's how I feel with this right team. They're

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a stop and start games. It's like it's like a

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions winning streak. They could have lost any of

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>those games. I guess that. You know. My argument would

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>be if the for going to play the Chiefs this weekend,

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>all of this is fully in play. You're playing a

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Brown's team that has crippled in multiple areas. You gave

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.400
<v Speaker 1>up eight sacks to the Steelers, you lost one quarterback

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.680
<v Speaker 1>for like the eighth time this year. And then the cown,

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>who I think has better athletic traits than any other

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>quarterback on the roster, also is going to give you

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>this season two killer turnovers a game and you can't.

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>He is good enough McCown where he could look like

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>a good quarterback for stretches, and I think this is

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>a game where it could happen. And I think Durell

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Pryor is gonna win a game one of these weeks.

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll have a seven for one eight and

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>two times. Mean, if I get this wrong, I'm never

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna it's gonna be the great, the great thing that

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:42.560
<v Speaker 1>the Browns finally win, and I'm gonna be change your pick.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to enjoy this victory anyways, by

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the way, not changing it, and and it is it

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous. This meed to tell me that I'm gonna

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>enjoy the first victory after Thanksgiving. It's there's nothing to enjoy.

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I think you'll like you want them to win? How

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:01.360
<v Speaker 1>about how about I will tell you how I will think.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, this is the theory of knowing you

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Mark is that you've been so

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>frustrated by watching them that you don't even like to

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>hear people that aren't watching them quite as close saying, oh,

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna win this week because you you're so angry

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>at them for sucking so hard. This season has gotten

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>to the point that if you if if the final

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>joke would be you lose the number one pick to

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the forty niners, get the job done. Go and six

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>get the number one. Listen, you have to. They lost

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Mariota by being the second or third worst team.

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>They lost Andrew Luck by being the second or third

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>worst team. If you're gonna get it done, get it done.

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So now you want them. I don't think it's a

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>crazy thing. I don't want them to go in sixteen.

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I want them to get the number one just because

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 1>don't lose out again on the quarterback. We spoiled our

0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>picks here. Uh if you watch, and you should watch

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the NFL pick Um Show, but that we picked a

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>couple other games and the content is dynamite. This week Saturday,

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.800
<v Speaker 1>three times. I got the times this time five thirty

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>in the morning Pacific, nine thirty in the morning Pacific,

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and ten thirty pm Pacific, and just add three three

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>hours in your brain for East Coast. We got some

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>ratings pop, So you know I'm excited a good ratings.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't out on the quarterback in the draft last year, right,

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you traded out of that pick. I did not do

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>that well. The Browns, yes, they did. Thank you. You

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 1>think that I've forgotten that anyone in the room forgotten

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>that No I'm just saying you were saying that they

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>need to stop missing out of these picks. I would say,

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I would say that that has been an equally annoying

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>trade of them. But they have They have also managed

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>to get to a point where the Marcus Mariottas of

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the world who they liked Marcus Mariotta at the time,

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>sneak by you. Okay, do you mentioned the chiefs mark?

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>This is similar to last week's Buccaneers. Nobody predicted the Buccaneers.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't logical. Someone did anything could make this happen.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>You predicted. Oh that was like a Saturday call, not

0:32:55.000 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>like on this podcast. You know, Saturday lab us of

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>nature of this show is did you make the call

0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>on the podcast? We're on our show, game or ours?

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Where we should move on? Did you make the calling

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>your pick them show? You're right, I called it on

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Twitter before the game. It doesn't count. That's the rules

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>were playing by. Okay, let's move on. You know, you

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 1>would think that us picking the Browns would lead to solidarity,

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>but it did the opposite. It's just it's weird that

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 1>you never know what could happen, and I wasn't. I

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to pick the Browns at all, but I

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>got carried away in the emotion of it while we

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.080
<v Speaker 1>were taping. You guys convinced me I had no idea

0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I would ever draw Mike's marks ire by picking the

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Browns to win a game specifically or not drawing my ir.

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a complicated scenario. Let's move on the

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>The Los Angeles Rams travel to New Orleans to face

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the Saints to four and six teams. Uh. And it's

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a strength against strength game. If you want to get

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>excited here that the Saints have a truly great offense.

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>In fact, they're first overall in the league statistically, and

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the Rams have a top five or just outside defense. Uh.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>And yet Greg rosentall as good as the Rams have

0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>been on defense. When you're playing in the Superdome, it's

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna hard. It's gonna be very difficult to keep the

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Saints under you know, twenty eight points, right, it will.

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And the Saints have have faced some good defenses lately,

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and they faced the Broncos, they face the Panthers, and

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 1>they've started those games out slowly, and yet those last

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:31.799
<v Speaker 1>two weeks it's weird. I think higher of the Saints. Now,

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just a homer this season. I think higher

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of them now than I did before those two losses.

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Can't be a homer. Well, they're not technically your team now.

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm just or biased or whatever. I think

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 1>they've looked better because they have a defense now, and

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to have a great defense to stop

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Jared Goff. You just have to have a solid defense

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>with a little bit of pass rush, and now they

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 1>have that. Especially at home, you need eleven players. Pople

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>West has been barre in golf. It was a bad game,

0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>but it was one game this great though. It's on

0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 1>the road, so that's a tough task for any rookie

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>quarterback making a second start. But you're going in a

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>place where points are usually plentiful. I will give a

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit of past in the rain, nerves and all that,

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>but he's got a West gotta put some points on

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>the board in this game, right, Greg. Tell me if

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 1>any of these statements are false or if you disagree

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 1>with him. He was a downgrade on case Keenum they

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>couldn't run their full offense. Agree with your assessments? Did

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>he go first read almost every time he dropped back

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and didn't examine the field. Yeah, isn't that the hazard

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Or isn't that going to happen when you put a

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>rookie in in November, you're gonna get what should have

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>been figured out by now. To some degree, I think

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.240
<v Speaker 1>it's what happened when you put a rookie and who's

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>not ready to play? Well, I mean there themselves said

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't for a long long time. Suddenly the switch

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>went on. Well, they had another home game after the

0:35:55.600 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>crowd had chanted for him in the previous They're also

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>an offense that I don't care who the quarterback is.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 1>It's case Keenum is not a massive upgrade over over

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>any right. They had scored two touchdowns in three weeks

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>with Keenum, so, but the quarterbacks in a tough situation

0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>in that offense as it is. I just think it's

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the most uncreative vanilla attacks league wide, and

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to watch. It raises the question, who is

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:19.280
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna is he learning an offense? Is he getting

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>experience that's just gonna go out the window because they're

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna have a new offense next year. Anyways, Well, isn't

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>this the time of the year where Jeff Fisher annually

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>changes his offensive coordinator because the offense doesn't work. It's

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 1>fine if they switch coaches. I mean, it's that happened

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to Marcus Marray, they switch head coaches. I don't think

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that's totally out of this not but you I don't.

0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it was. It's beyond time to have put

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>him in there. Well, who's more important to the franchise,

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Jared Golf or Jeff Fisher. So I think we know

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>by now that Jeff Fisher is not the guy to

0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 1>bring out the best in Jared Golf. Um the society

0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>properly appreciate Drew Brees. No, he is on pace for

0:36:56.680 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>five thousand, two hundred and forty three yards this season,

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>would be the third most in NFL history. He is

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>just as good as he ever was. And uh, and

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>guys like Peyton Manning before he fell off the cliff

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and like Tom Brady now get a ton of credit

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>for staying good. But Drew Brees is an undersized dude.

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>That is what thirty seven now And he's as good

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>as ever. Uh, that's you know now, You're you're right.

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>His future feels more secure in New Orleans now than

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it did a year ago. I think he's having a

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>better season now than he did a year ago or

0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>the year before. Well, you mentioned Brady and and Manning,

0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>and they had the a, the longevity. It was their

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>number one saying with Breeze, but they had the added

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>component of playing against each other in so many massive

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 1>games that there was almost a legendary pairing and Breeze

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and this. And because the Saints are not what any

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Peyton Manning called so Broncos team or a Brady Patriots team,

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.239
<v Speaker 1>they've been much more inconsistent. They made one, they've made

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>two NFC championships. But I mean Drew Brees is in

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>like a hundred and seven commercials and I would add

0:37:56.640 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 1>on over exposed on something. Well maybe as a commercial

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>entity years, but I mean it's a pure player undervalued.

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 1>And he also maybe lacks that rival like a Brady manager.

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 1>KAEPERNICKA could have been him, but it didn't become that way.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan it could have been, and maybe it will again,

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>but he's been kind of and it's a it's a tangent,

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>but I started thinking that Tom Brady was awarded the

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>first Team All Decade Pro Football Hall of Fame Team

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>last decade, and he has a pretty good chance to

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>do it again, which is just an outrageous statement. I

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 1>started thinking who else would be the candidates for this decade,

0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and I would put Breeze third right now, but behind

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Brady and Rogers. I Breeze had a lot of his prime,

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the last decade too. He probably would

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>have been third or fourth in the last decade. We'll

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>see how luck finishes out this decade. He yeah, came

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>in Rogers. It's a while ago. Oh by Oh, I

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 1>almost forgot. I mean, this Rams team is dead. Jared Goff,

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>forget it. Saints are the best four and sixth team

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in the entire not giving them up, lock it up?

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:05.839
<v Speaker 1>Locking it up. Wow. Uh, that's a great pick, Greg

0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Because Drew Brees he's thrown at least three touchdown passes

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and nine of his last ten home games. There is

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.719
<v Speaker 1>no way. I don't know if he'll throw three or

0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 1>three or four touchdowns here, but there's no way the

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Rams are scoring twenty points in this game. It's just

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. The only thing that could happen. Haven't

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the Rams more than once done something very annoying like

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>hold a big offense to like ten points. Thinking what

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>happened there? Well, I mean Greg's not afraid though, That's

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 1>why he took out the old vault. Got is your close.

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>He got the proper combination through the game in there

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and sealed it up. See your Sunday night. Put those

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:44.760
<v Speaker 1>onions in a gumbo or something. Let's move on San Francisco.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Forty niners or one and nine? They stink now they

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>travel to Miami to face the Dolphins, who are six

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>and four. Uh Dolphins, just beat the Rams. You know,

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Handsome Hank come back to me, came after me on

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Twitter for a lot of pull coming back to here

0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>at this you know, you know, coming after me on

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Twitter as they're Handsome Hank because I was wrong about

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins coming back down to Earth. This is the

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins that we're getting shut out with four minutes to

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>play by the by the Rams. Uh so. And then

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and because we know Handsome Hank, he's he's a sneaky

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 1>little guy and he's a cunning man. He sends out

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>that tweet knowing that he has the forty Niners coming

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>up too, so and I'm sure he'll double down the tweets. Whatever.

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Have your fun, handsome Hank. But it's all gonna come

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.839
<v Speaker 1>back around because this Dolphins team may go nowhere, mark

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 1>my words. Well, I've just said only a score. There,

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you guys can talk about the game. I think we

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:46.360
<v Speaker 1>talked last week about a California hat trick, and here's

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>my one argument briefly, and then you can discuss that

0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen a well, there's two parts. An

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.320
<v Speaker 1>pull off a California this weekend. They're gonna do it.

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Forty Niners over the last five weeks. These are what

0:40:58.080 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you've allowed on the ground and rushing three hundred and

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>thirteen yards in one game, two hundred and forty nine,

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:08.919
<v Speaker 1>the next game two hundred eight better. That was better.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 1>That is ridiculous. And now the Dolphins on the ground

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>over the last five weeks two hundred and twenty two

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to fifty six, one seven, one oh six. Game over,

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>are you I'm not locking This is not a lock.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.959
<v Speaker 1>You don't lock up against the Niners. I'm just telling

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>you game over, j G. I what you're saying. Translation

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>for the fantasy folk out there, as we head down

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the home stretch of your regular seasons, you better have

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>j GI in the lineup in a big spot. I

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>would be surprised if anyone's pulling a GI from their lineup,

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and at all Simpleton's sure, Simpleton's brain dead. People who

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>had them on their bench, drug Addico that forgot that

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 1>they even had a fantasy team might have just light

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 1>bulb went off because they're laying in their own vomit

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>listening to our podcast. Point made. If you wanted to

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>play Devil's advocate in favor of Jared Goffe's performance last week,

0:41:58.880 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you would point out that the Rams went overly conservative

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't need him to do anything against this

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins offense. They punted on what their first eleven possessions,

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.360
<v Speaker 1>and that was in the rain against a better defense.

0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think it's some kind of fate of

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.120
<v Speaker 1>fatal complete that they're gonna route now. I don't know.

0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Forty Niners have been more competitive the last two weeks.

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a fact they know we make jokes. Maybe it's

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>not gonna last. They were the worst team I've seen

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>a long time before those last two weeks, but they

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>were more They've been more competitive, and the Dolphins are

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna be missing palency again. They're probably gonna be missing

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Albert again. I mean those are their two best

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman for an offense it's, you know, not a

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>juggernaut offense. That's a problem teams in a lost season

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>flying three thousand miles to play a game known to

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:44.760
<v Speaker 1>lay an egg. Kaepernick's playing a little bit better. Staying

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>in California. Well, they're in Miami for this game they

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>had would make sense if the if the Dolphins were

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>to stay in California, that would be another way to lose.

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Adam Gates said he he thought he learned his team

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>was a little more mature than he expected with that

0:42:57.760 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>that whole California trip. Kaepernick, maybe he's not playing that great.

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>He's been a great fantasy quarterback. It's been a top

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>five fantasy quarterback. Great over Blaine Gabbert. It's been an

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>upgrade over Blaine Gabbert. All right, and let me look

0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 1>at this schedule now, because Handsome Hank is diabolical, so

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he studied all these things. Six and four,

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.840
<v Speaker 1>they got the at home four. You assume they'll win that.

0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Seven and four at Ravens. Counted out with me, Greg

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:27.759
<v Speaker 1>at Ravens. Seven and five home to Cardinals I'll give

0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 1>him that. Eight and five at Jets surprise loss, surprise,

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>lost their division matchup like it, Patty will be starting

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>by the end. That's will win. Eight and six at

0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Phils loss, eight and seven home to Patriots. Patriots will

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.400
<v Speaker 1>do something stupid and blow that. They'll be like they'll be,

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>They'll be playing. They'll bring Stephen Jackson out of retirement

0:43:49.000 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to run the ball. Not in seven, Ain gonna do it, handsome,

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Hank go home, go all the way to Britain. No,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.360
<v Speaker 1>I like him. I want him to stay here. I

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 1>mean that that whole, that whole prediction hinges on the

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>jet speeding the love that that will be fun. I'm

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>going up because Hank now has a beautiful third floor

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 1>office with a window overlooking the entire complex. Uh. It's

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the it's the reward for being, you know, a future

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 1>commissioner in the NFL, as we know. I'm gonna just

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 1>go up there with him, watch that game, and then

0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.359
<v Speaker 1>really rub it into him. The Jets ender. He has

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 1>breakfast brought to him every day in that office. Only breakfast. Well,

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure he could ask some more, but

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he likes to get down and stretch his legs to

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>get lunch and big long legs, big corporate card. Let's

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>move on, Henry Tucky, he's gonna kill us us go

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>after me pretty good, I would think. At at Houston,

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about what's going on there. San Diego charges

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>four and six UH inexplicably not forked. They're gonna win

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>out according to UH some ten and six. That's the

0:44:56.680 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>record there, four and six they're gonna they're gonna have

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 1>to win out to get to UH to this tenant six,

0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and I guess it has to start in Houston against

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>the six and four Texans. UH. Texans still ahead in

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 1>the a f C South, but you know it's a

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 1>tenuous grip. It has to beat Chris Westling with all

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 1>their issues. They have an offense. You're right, the fork

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>committee really lacked onions this year. What we should have

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.320
<v Speaker 1>done is forked one of these teams, the one in

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>first place in the a f C South. We should

0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.120
<v Speaker 1>have had onions now would have been fun. We've got

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 1>lacks of onions with the four committee this year. There's

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. We've got a four and six

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.319
<v Speaker 1>team against the six and four team here and tell

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>me what area if any does the six and four

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>team have an advantage on the four and six team.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't find one, Like, you're absolutely right, and well

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 1>advanced metrics tell you the same thing. Defense overall, you'd

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 1>have to I'm taking the Chargers defense in this game.

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking them in this game because they're playing Houston.

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But their run defense, I would say, in particular, Houston's

0:45:55.880 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>pretty good stopping the run. I mean, Romeo, Cornell Charter better.

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Not a great defense, but they're better than that. Charges

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 1>have been a better run defensive team than in Texans

0:46:05.280 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 1>all year long. They do get to Tavis Brown and

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Denzel Paraman back this week, which is much needed news

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Chargers. Corey t was playing awesome for them,

0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.800
<v Speaker 1>is not coming back to that team. The Texans credit

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>for their defense for how many times have you been

0:46:21.680 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>saddled with three and out drives, multiple punts and at

0:46:27.000 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>home and you saved the team. So yes, they've been great.

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 1>The Chargers don't blow anyone out. This will be a

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.680
<v Speaker 1>tight game. It would be a tough game. I think

0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a tough one for both of these teams. That

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the Texans are coming off a real tough loss and

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a short week, and the Chargers are coming off

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>by teams teams have not been playing well off buys

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and and a tough loss for themselves where it kind

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>of felt like the air of their momentum was coming

0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>out from I mean, but to back your point that

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the Chargers are essentially gonna win out, I would say

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the way that happens is if you're the Texans, unless

0:46:57.880 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you get a pick six, which they did a couple

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, Unless you have something like that happen,

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 1>how do you keep pace with San Diego's offense unless

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get Philip Rivers. Those those interceptions that what

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the four of them, two of them, I would say,

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:13.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not on Rivers to some degree. He's not gonna

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 1>do that multiple interception thing game after game, and you've

0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>got to find a way to generate points with what

0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is the worst quarterback starting quarterback in the league. I mean,

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.279
<v Speaker 1>they were in position to kick the field goal just

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>about and win the game. They're the Chargers against Miami.

0:47:26.280 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 1>That that was a killer killer. He threw four in

0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the same quarter. But he leads the NFL and interceptions

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil Rivers Since Week seven, He's got eight of them,

0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's made he's making some mistakes. Maybe he's forcing

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. Great quarterback, though that one game

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.880
<v Speaker 1>is not half. Some of those picks were not him,

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>but they were they were they were pushing. But I

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 1>also think Rivers is the guy I'd put above Gosh

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>almost like all but two quarterbacks in the league where

0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>it's just like this guy is going to keep you

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:56.279
<v Speaker 1>in the game somehow. You're gonna be there in the

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter and Rivers is gonna do something. Again. We've

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.520
<v Speaker 1>seen it a thousand times. I know because of our

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>four committee meeting that I believe West and Greg will

0:48:03.280 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 1>take the Chargers. Here. Pick this game, Mark, who do

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you will take the Chargers? I'll lone wolf this one.

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I think the Chargers get finished off. Let's move on. Yeah.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you watch NFL, you know game

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.600
<v Speaker 1>day morning every morning, and then I DVR and then

0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>even after the games are played, I watch it again.

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 1>When you do the lone wolf, you're supposed to make

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:23.319
<v Speaker 1>like a Wolfie sound okay, I've never seen the show.

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>If you're gonna loan wolf it, then you know what

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. It's a big spot. Oh what are

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do it up, lock it off. I like

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it because it's in a way like you want to

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>stick it to me, because I feel like you're trying

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:40.880
<v Speaker 1>to stick it to our chargers. Have a little bit.

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 1>You read it properly. It's a little stick for stick,

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 1>a little stick for stick, a little tip for tat,

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 1>and I like it. That's what it's about. In the

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 1>podcast studio, Sticks and Tits and Tats say that right, Yes,

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>we're allowed to say it's city if we get sued

0:48:58.960 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 1>by the FCCU is a chunk of your massive endowment

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>from the listenership, like your new found That needs to

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:12.239
<v Speaker 1>be a sound drop that last sequence, tats. Uh. Let's

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.279
<v Speaker 1>move on to Seattle. Seahawks seven two and one, one

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of the very best teams in football, travel to Tampa

0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to face the Buccaneers. Scorching Buccaneers. The scorching Buccaneers. They

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 1>have won three or four and they're hanging around in

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the NFC. Didn't even get brought up in the Final

0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 1>four committee meeting Matton itself as a victory in my mind.

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh So, now they have to figure out a way

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to beat Russell Wilson. But it's not gonna be easy, Greg,

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.799
<v Speaker 1>not at all. No, it won't. I didn't really think

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they had much of a chance, uh to beat the Chiefs.

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think they had much of a chance to

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 1>beat any NFL team, even if it's the Bears by

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.759
<v Speaker 1>twenty six points. So this team has surprised us, and

0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.719
<v Speaker 1>if nothing else, they're getting lucky in terms of when

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they face this Seahawks team. The Seahawks team is playing

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.360
<v Speaker 1>well right now, but they are going to be without

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Process for the rest of the year. They're gonna be

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:05.359
<v Speaker 1>without Earl Thomas in this game. I think de Sean

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>shed is out for this game. Michael Bennett is out

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>for this game. And so you know, you give them

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.439
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a chance to move the ball

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:18.479
<v Speaker 1>on offense with Jamis Winston. Why not. Are they gonna

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>be without Cliff Averril, without Bobby Wagner, Now, those guys

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be Are we sure the Buccaneers can handle

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite part of the show, by the way,

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.760
<v Speaker 1>what I just sit back and enjoy this whenever Winston

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 1>conversation breaks out? Are we sure the Buccaneers can handle

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>their success? They're they gotta be riding high, not being

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>forked by us on Tuesdays, not even discussed. It's a

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>tough batch. Javis Winston has a lot on his plate,

0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>no matter what you if you like him or you

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>don't eat, I think it's fair to say for a

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 1>second year quarterback, he has more on his plate than

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of second year quarterbacks. It comes wait issues

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 1>under control. There's no need for that stuff. I mean

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the decision making that he makes, that, the line of scrimmage,

0:50:58.160 --> 0:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>all of that, you know, going through his reads. He

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>did a really good job last week. The Seahawks are

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 1>a tough team to dissect. Uh you know before the snap.

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're a team that's gonna scramble your mind,

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 1>is what I'm saying. Well, mind scrambling. A special team

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>they are. I did not realize what we were dealing

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:20.799
<v Speaker 1>with their mine scramblers. I've just said that, the tough

0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:23.839
<v Speaker 1>team to win from the neck up against. It makes sense.

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 1>But Ted Wells on this team mind scrambling. Um, So

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.600
<v Speaker 1>you think this will be a close game, Come on,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, do it. Greg's turned on the Buccaneers. No, yeah,

0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't let him talk you out of it. He's

0:51:38.480 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>turned on the Bucks. I well, I thought they were

0:51:40.719 --> 0:51:43.560
<v Speaker 1>really lucky to be three and five, like to get

0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.839
<v Speaker 1>to that record, that's all. I thought they were one

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>of the worst teams. They've played really well, and Jamis

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is playing really well. They haven't Mike Evans absolutely. Doug

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Martin looked a little better last week. Third straight thousand

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.960
<v Speaker 1>yards season coming up from Mike Evans, which puts them out,

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, among Randy Moss and a few other really

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal talents, only four I think, ever, but Mr Sherman

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 1>travels more now than he used to. I think they

0:52:06.160 --> 0:52:08.279
<v Speaker 1>would have him on Evans most of the especially with

0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 1>the injuries that they have there. That's a good point.

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The problem is they're playing the team I picked to

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>win the Super Bowl here that I think is looking fantastic.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And Russell Wilson is been dynamite. You know, everyone's all

0:52:20.480 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>excited about him moving, you know, moving around well again.

0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 1>He's making these throws from the pocket. I think he's

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>doing that more than than he did earlier in his career.

0:52:29.160 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Most of these throws are just dropped back and passed.

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>It's him running around. You could possibly have it both ways,

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.560
<v Speaker 1>if you really are rooting in your heart of hearts

0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:39.200
<v Speaker 1>for some sort of an upset that Seattle after this

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>does not play a team with a winning record for

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the year, you're gonna get both. I'm

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>rooting for the Bucks. I got sandwiches on the line.

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 1>If they somehow sneaking to the playoffs, I get some sandwiches.

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think what Dirk Cutter said about Winston after

0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:53.800
<v Speaker 1>last game, and he was he praised him highly. I

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:55.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know why we always have to any time we

0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Winston. It's in comparison to Mariota, and interesting that

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:02.279
<v Speaker 1>at all. I think that Winston, watching the Chiefs game

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and watching some of his other showdowns has been excellent.

0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>For his second year in the league. Winston might be

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the least talked about quarterbacks who should be

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:16.640
<v Speaker 1>talked about a lot more. DJ had the uniforms. Yeah,

0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I think that's very fair. I think you're down football.

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Nowhere's Ville down in Tampa, team that gets less attention

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 1>than any team in the league outside of Jacksonville. And

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get into it. But DJ raised

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the good question, Danna Jeremiah, who would you who would

0:53:31.560 --> 0:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you take of the last four quarterbacks drafted? Mariotta, Winston, Wentz,

0:53:37.000 --> 0:53:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and Dac and his larger point was he thinks this,

0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>this group, this foursome is gonna be a really good foursome,

0:53:44.239 --> 0:53:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that the league's kind of in good hands, that they

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>have this little next wave. You could throw Derek Carr

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted in there. He's that Yeah, you definitely should.

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:53.280
<v Speaker 1>But but those are from the last two classes alone,

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.439
<v Speaker 1>four guys who you would think it's gonna be around

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>a long time. By the way, that is your second

0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:01.359
<v Speaker 1>DJ reference. If you sorry, it's like the Beatle Juice rule.

0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:03.480
<v Speaker 1>If you say it a third time, the entire underworld

0:54:03.480 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>will come to life on this podcast. Have you been

0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 1>watching Have you been listening to the Move the Sticks

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:13.320
<v Speaker 1>podcast pretty frequently? Greg Um? No? Oh, that's good to

0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:15.640
<v Speaker 1>know because you you confide it in me yesterday that

0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 1>you never listened to our podcast. So if you were

0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:22.480
<v Speaker 1>listening to his and not even hinting at listening to ours,

0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I would think, you know we're back in You know

0:54:25.000 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>we're back when we're last year with his pet project.

0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:31.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey we uh that project project? You never know that

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>might come back to what what is it? Go ahead? How?

0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead? Thank you? Sorry? I talked over go ahead?

0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 1>That's good I like that. So who was your choice

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.040
<v Speaker 1>out of those four quarterbacks? Who do you think? Yeah,

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>m let's move on. The New York Jets are coming

0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:57.600
<v Speaker 1>off thereby they will host the New England Patriots, and uh,

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Pats are eight and two rolling along. Mike get Rob

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Gronkowski back this week. He was practicing as of the

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:08.439
<v Speaker 1>taping of the show on Wednesday. UM, we uh don't

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>know for sure, but it seems like that could be

0:55:10.520 --> 0:55:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a possibility. Um. On the Jet side, Todd Bowles came

0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>out and announced that Ryan Fitzpatrick is once again the

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:21.160
<v Speaker 1>team's starter, which to me is a huge red flag

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:23.719
<v Speaker 1>that Todd Bowles is worried about his job. It's the

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 1>only thing to me, That's how I read into it.

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>That he doesn't think Bryce Petty is either the answer

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>or ready at this time. And uh, he wants to

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 1>try to win seven games or so and some ownership

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:37.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't can a four and twelve coach. That's how I

0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.719
<v Speaker 1>read into it. We'll see if it works out. And

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 1>one thing before we this is not a good Jet team,

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:46.399
<v Speaker 1>but just a how much things have changed from last

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.919
<v Speaker 1>year the last time these teams met. The Jets beat

0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:51.359
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots in overtime to be to go to ten

0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>and five. The world was an amazing place for me

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>at least and millions of others jez fans. Things are

0:55:57.960 --> 0:56:03.280
<v Speaker 1>very different now, very different. After watching the Rams Jets

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>game week, tend to watch that. I can't imagine any

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:11.080
<v Speaker 1>clear thinking Jets fan wanting to see Brice Bryce Petty

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:15.839
<v Speaker 1>in November or even before weeks seventeen. They cannot run

0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a real offense with Bryce Petty. I'm sorry you can't.

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:22.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like watching a worst Jared Goff. He was terrible

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in that game. He checked down or went with the

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.640
<v Speaker 1>first raid on almost every throw. And you're not talking

0:56:26.680 --> 0:56:28.959
<v Speaker 1>about a first round draft pick here. You're talking about

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's unlikely to ever be a solution to anything.

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Don't put your fan base through his offense. I think

0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you have to play Fitzpatrick and if the season is

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>lost in weeks sixteen or seventeen and you want to

0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:42.479
<v Speaker 1>get a glimpse of a guy who has a chance

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 1>to be a decent backup someday, played Brice Petty. But

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>he was so bad in that Rams game that you're

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.359
<v Speaker 1>not serving your fan base by playing him at all.

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he played well, but I thought he

0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.359
<v Speaker 1>showed some moments he led the team. Did you wait

0:56:55.440 --> 0:56:57.759
<v Speaker 1>let me finish at ninety nine your touchdown drive? He

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.319
<v Speaker 1>missed a wide open Robby Anderson, which was a bad miss,

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>which I really think. And again one thing and the

0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>same thing with Goff. You you didn't like the way

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:08.080
<v Speaker 1>he looked at all. I have to give some of

0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys a little bit of room in the first

0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.640
<v Speaker 1>start of their careers. There could be butterflies. They're they're

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to get their feet under them. That's why

0:57:16.080 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to see four to five games of Bryce

0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Petty and not one or two. I I know that

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzpatrick is not the future. Even if Ryan, even

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 1>if Bryce Petty, if I'm gonna learn he's the backup,

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:26.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to actually get a good look at him

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>and not just go kind of blind based on his

0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>draft pedigree or the offense he came out of in college.

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you can't run an NFL offense with him,

0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that defeats the whole purpose. And they don't know that yet.

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.160
<v Speaker 1>They didn't run an NFL offense with him, and I

0:57:39.240 --> 0:57:41.280
<v Speaker 1>don't think they can. There's nothing I've seen out of

0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Petty in preseason or or otherwise. That makes me

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think you can run an NFL offense with this guy.

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.960
<v Speaker 1>But what do you get with Ryan Fitzpatrick a competitive

0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 1>NFL team. You're still in November. It's not time to

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>give up on the season. I'm weird fans to that

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of football, I'm weird, but Fitzpatrick scares me a

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit at this point. Don't count this as just

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 1>an automatic w because I want to see what happens

0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.680
<v Speaker 1>with this Patriots defense. And I think back to last year.

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I know it's a different Jets team, but they played

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:10.440
<v Speaker 1>them tight two games last year. It wasn't just the

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:13.680
<v Speaker 1>game they want. Both of those games were really evenly

0:58:13.760 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>played games. And if one quarterbacks is gonna get hot

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and expose a defense that's had some busted coverages and

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>not much of a pass rush, you know it's gonna

0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>be Ryan Fitzpatrick, not Bryce Petty. Probably well, I just

0:58:25.360 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like we haven't seen enough to really be passing

0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:31.800
<v Speaker 1>judgment on Bryce Petty. And I'm Petty at home against

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.800
<v Speaker 1>the flawed Patriots defense in a good setting. I feel

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>like they're missing an opportunity here. I see both of

0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>your arguments. Actually too. But I think that there's always

0:58:41.720 --> 0:58:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a divide between the way that analysts and particularly in

0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this case, Jets fans would think and a coaching staff

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that whether they're not thinking about their future right now,

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 1>they their job is to go out and win every week.

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And they've come to the conclusion this week that Ryan

0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 1>Fitzpatrick gives you a better chance against the best team

0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 1>in the league. That is thinking about his future. He's

0:59:04.320 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 1>worried about his future. He's also thinking about it. He's

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>also thinking about his locker room filled with veterans. Don't

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>want an inept quarterback. These guys are paid, which has

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>been Patrick. This Patrick is not inept. He's just had

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>a bad season. Bryce Petty is inept. I think back

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>to the start of that game, though, and it's kind

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of it's sad, a little to think about. They paned

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to the crowd when Petty started, and they showed a

0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of Jets fan and they were recording the moment

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>on their phone like that. That's the start of the

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:41.240
<v Speaker 1>breasts the Jet thinking. Jets fans, you're thinking, you watched

0:59:41.280 --> 0:59:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Petty play. You look at the offense they ran,

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.120
<v Speaker 1>think clearly not. I hope this fourth round pick can

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.720
<v Speaker 1>become our quarterback, but think clearly about what he did

0:59:48.760 --> 0:59:50.720
<v Speaker 1>in that game. Some would say that clear thinking. He's

0:59:50.760 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>not making a rash decision on a quarterback based on

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>four quarters. That's what I mean. I think you could

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:59.720
<v Speaker 1>have a clear thinking opinion as a Jets fan wanting

0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>to see more of this guy. I think I think

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that at three and seven, what what do you have

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:06.720
<v Speaker 1>to lose besides more games? I mean, how do we

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:09.440
<v Speaker 1>go from begging from our respect for Ryan's Pitt Fitzpatrick

1:00:09.480 --> 1:00:11.920
<v Speaker 1>all off season and throughout the early part of the

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<v Speaker 1>season to like Bryce Petty is a better option than him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get that three and seven, it's over. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think also the whole situation with Fitzpatrick is there's

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<v Speaker 1>no future at this point. And you're you're saying turned

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the As a fan, you're saying turn the page. I

1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I am. I'm saying turn the page. This is there's

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing to be gained with there's something to the rivalry

1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.720
<v Speaker 1>here that it's a division game and it's their biggest rival,

1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a home game, and this is their

1:00:40.320 --> 1:00:42.720
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl. They're not gonna have any good moments this

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<v Speaker 1>year in particular. But if they somehow beat the Patriots,

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.800
<v Speaker 1>which you know, I could you could almost see happening

1:00:49.000 --> 1:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>at the right, that's only won three of the least

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 1>seven games, right, you could almost see happening. I think

1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:56.160
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots defense will eventually figure it out. But right now,

1:00:56.280 --> 1:00:59.680
<v Speaker 1>last week they basically benched a land In Roberts, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy I was talking up as the Jamie

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<v Speaker 1>Collins replacement. They put in Shane McClellan. They've got Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>van noy Uh rushing the passer as their outside linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>actually had a decent game. It's these guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>rejects from the NFC North that the Lions and Bears

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want. Alan Branch has been solid for them, is

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<v Speaker 1>facing the suspension, So there there's a lot they're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out. I wouldn't be I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>expect they will figure it out, but they haven't yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why plan to slowly dissemble the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>into a trash roster and then hand the team over

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<v Speaker 1>to McDaniels, who will struggle making Belichick. Look, they've had

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<v Speaker 1>some bad defenses. I mean, think about the the team

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<v Speaker 1>that went to the Super Bowl and loss of the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants the second time. That defense was terrible, um talent

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<v Speaker 1>wise and just how it was playing. So sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>takes them a little while. Though. There are different vels

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<v Speaker 1>of terrible. But yes, five week, ye, not one of

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<v Speaker 1>them came from an edge rusher. Let's move on and

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Carolina Panthers at four and six, forked

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<v Speaker 1>by the Fourth Committee on Tuesday. Correct, did we did?

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<v Speaker 1>We did? We did? We did? For uh? They now

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<v Speaker 1>travel to Oakland to face the Raiders on a short week.

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<v Speaker 1>The Raiders are not just on a short week, um

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Sessler. They are also playing in Mexico City, where

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<v Speaker 1>it was a draining game where they were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the field and the high altitude. That was a

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:24.560
<v Speaker 1>tough game that they pulled out. And now they have

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<v Speaker 1>a wounded Panther game here. I could I could see

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<v Speaker 1>what I guess you would call an upset with the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers getting the win. Do you see it that way

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Absolutely not. I don't care where the Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>played last week. They're gonna win this game. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's my whoa lock it up? Snuck that one

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<v Speaker 1>up on us. I think that everything that we could

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<v Speaker 1>have looked at last year with the Panthers, everything was

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<v Speaker 1>flying your fourteen and no, you've got your dancing, your dabbing,

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:59.240
<v Speaker 1>you're doing all your funny stuff. All the millennials love you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all all going to the Raiders. Now. The Raiders

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<v Speaker 1>are that team that has this inexplicable positive energy throwing

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<v Speaker 1>flowing through it. And it's also You've got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talent. You've got one of the best offensive lines

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<v Speaker 1>in the league that can help neutralize what's been a

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<v Speaker 1>good pass rush for the Panthers. And I think Oakland

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<v Speaker 1>in at home takes this game and allows us to

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<v Speaker 1>finally we've we've done this officially at last, but enough

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<v Speaker 1>with this idea that the Panthers are gonna climb back

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<v Speaker 1>into the playoffs and win anything. They're not. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>that team right now. They're good defense, and the they're

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<v Speaker 1>they've been a consistent defense, and they're They're gonna miss

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<v Speaker 1>Luke kick Ley a lot, assuming he doesn't return for

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<v Speaker 1>this game, which I think is a safe assumption. Mario

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<v Speaker 1>Addison has been their best pass rusher. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's going to be available for this game, but

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<v Speaker 1>the defense has been good enough to keep them in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. They still have Cam Newton in a good defense.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of expect these Raiders games to come down

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<v Speaker 1>to the end at this point, because most of them do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's fair to expect. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, you can compare their records, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they're that much better than the Panthers. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that's like a thing that Mark doesn't like because the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers aren't very good, and we keep making excuses for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wouldn't surprise me at all they beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders in this game. I don't I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>unfair to say that there isn't that much difference. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's something that we can't beyond the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. And it's a hazy argument, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the Raiders are just kind of rolling. They're

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<v Speaker 1>playing with extreme confidence, and I think very night sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, if you look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>these teams when they go from being a losing team

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<v Speaker 1>to suddenly pulling off a twelve and four type of year,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes back to teams I followed in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>where you go from like this midway junk squad to

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden playoff type deal that you win some of

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<v Speaker 1>these games along the way. And they're also they have

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<v Speaker 1>one of the coaching staffs that isn't afraid to roll

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<v Speaker 1>the dice and go for it some of their wins

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<v Speaker 1>or because they are more but daring group than others.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, like a lot of teams end up twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and four like they roll, but a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 1>that end up nine and seven are eight and two

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<v Speaker 1>at one point. And they've outplayed They've gotten lucky over

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<v Speaker 1>in this season. That luck evens out the Panthers, though

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<v Speaker 1>after that game, with the injuries, it felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>dead team and they have found ways to lose games.

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<v Speaker 1>And even though they beat the Saints, if that game

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<v Speaker 1>was three minutes longer, they would have found a way

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<v Speaker 1>to lose that one too. They were holding on for

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<v Speaker 1>dear life, playing with a little bit of lemon booty there.

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<v Speaker 1>They they've kind of lost their lemon booty. People know that,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the old people? You know, people on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>the old, the old, you know what, just closing up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, closing up a little bit lemon booty,

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<v Speaker 1>that's new. I've never heard that. Oh oh, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>buttole reference. Hey, here's why, um, we should feel good

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<v Speaker 1>about forking the Panthers. UM the remaining strength of schedule

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<v Speaker 1>toughest in the league. Or their final six games are

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<v Speaker 1>on the ode um and uh, four of their final

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<v Speaker 1>six opponents have a winning record Oakland, Seattle, Washington, and Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know when you start one in five, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason why those two. Let's move on the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs seven and three, fresh off a really uh

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<v Speaker 1>surprising loss at home to the Tampa Bay Bucks. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>That could really hurt now because now they go to

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<v Speaker 1>Denver to face the Broncos and their Broncos are well

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<v Speaker 1>rested coming off of by and this is a battle

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<v Speaker 1>that UM, the loser this game may not have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance in the division with the Raiders at eight and two. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the loser would fall to seven and four and they

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<v Speaker 1>they would be behind two teams. So what happens here?

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Rosental I don't have a strong feeling, but the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs need to play better on defense. This needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be a defense first team and there they couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>off the field last week. D Ford was not at

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<v Speaker 1>practice Wednesday, that's a huge loss. Uh. They've been getting

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<v Speaker 1>some good contributions from their rookie Chris Jones. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this Broncos offensive line has been so bad that almost

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<v Speaker 1>every defense should look good against them. And and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the type of game Kansas City needs to win here.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see the Chiefs that I expected, haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really seen it for three or four weeks. I get

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<v Speaker 1>that their defense didn't play well, they had entries. Marcus Peters,

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<v Speaker 1>who was so important to their team, did not play.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like he'll be back to which Their offense

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<v Speaker 1>has been more of a problem lately, without Jeremy mcklen

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<v Speaker 1>and with Alex Smith playing as poorly as as he

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<v Speaker 1>has all year. I think it's the offense that has

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<v Speaker 1>been more of the problem in Kansas City. Watch out

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<v Speaker 1>if Kansas City can't win this game, because that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a two game losing streak in their next two

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<v Speaker 1>games at Atlanta and then home to the home to

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders on a short week on Thursday night, and

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<v Speaker 1>then home with Titans and then home to Broncos. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough remaining schedule. They are not both you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are right, I mean, in that Bucks game, the Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>kept converting third down the sixteen, and they kept the

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<v Speaker 1>dry long over and over, and the offense, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're statistically it's it's eighty fewer yards per game over

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<v Speaker 1>the last three. Spencerware, who is so important to that

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<v Speaker 1>ground game, has not been the same since he had

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<v Speaker 1>the concussion, and they're missing guys. And I love Tyreek Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's an interesting player to watch and he's becoming

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<v Speaker 1>more of a core component every week. They move them

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. They're even use them in the

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<v Speaker 1>backfield and stuff. But it just feels like an offense

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not sure where you're gonna get production from

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<v Speaker 1>week to week. With guys like Macklin, right, I get

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<v Speaker 1>that they're smart, they don't have a lot of penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a turnover margin and you're well coached,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think yards are overrated, but at a certain

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<v Speaker 1>point you're twenty four in the league and offense and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and defense, and so it's hard. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to like keep doing that week after week and be

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<v Speaker 1>a seven and three type of team. I think Alex

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<v Speaker 1>Smith actually was better last week for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>He had that one bad mistake and otherwise it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of an Alex Smith type of game.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he can build off. Is this an another seven

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<v Speaker 1>win team that we don't quite believe in. They need

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<v Speaker 1>to be healthy for me to believe in them. I

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<v Speaker 1>with without Jeremy Macklin, I don't believe in that offense certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>and without d Ford and if we we have to

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<v Speaker 1>see what justin Houston is still if they're not healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it right now that I've thought it through.

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<v Speaker 1>We should pick this game by there because this feels

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<v Speaker 1>like a top big game. By the way, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the Sunday night game flex the Jets and Pets flexed out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>rightfully so uh Broncos chiefs unneathball, Mike Rico. I trust

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<v Speaker 1>the Broncos defense. To me, that's the thing that's in

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<v Speaker 1>this game that I believe in. They had everyone at

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<v Speaker 1>their practice coming out of the by They are a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy team right now, and I think at home, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna start to see the Broncos with with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of a push and look better.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though they're seven and three, they'll look better. A

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<v Speaker 1>word about their offense, I don't know if they can

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<v Speaker 1>get a running game going with C J. Anderson out

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<v Speaker 1>and Trevor Simeon isn't gonna win ball games. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, feel like the Chiefs. This could be a

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<v Speaker 1>slide beginning now. And I like the Denver Broncos here.

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<v Speaker 1>I trust the Broncos and I trust Trevor Simeon more

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<v Speaker 1>than most people do. Gary Kubiak said today They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep putting more on Trevor simeons play as the season

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<v Speaker 1>goes along, and he's going to have more responsibility down

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch, and he's had all years. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to write, gonna have to hope that he can progress.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Kubiak has done a really incredible job

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<v Speaker 1>with quarterback playing quarterback transition in a really interesting situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the past two seasons. Simeon and Lynch are generating

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<v Speaker 1>more points than Manning and Oswala did last year. I

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<v Speaker 1>do I trust at home in a primetime spot Denver

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<v Speaker 1>and Denver's defense that secondary, please, I mean, where is

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City gonna find its way on offense in this game?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going Denver. I just look at the organization almost

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<v Speaker 1>deserves credit, and I think it can carry you through

1:10:55.120 --> 1:10:57.479
<v Speaker 1>seasons like this. Did their win totals over the last

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<v Speaker 1>four years, it's almost under the radar thirteen team twelve twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the Seahawks get a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 1>for being at the very very top of the league.

1:11:06.520 --> 1:11:09.400
<v Speaker 1>The Broncos have been right there with the Patriots and

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<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks for the last four years, so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just expected to keep happening. And they're the team

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<v Speaker 1>that's knocked New England out of the playoffs multiple times.

1:11:16.680 --> 1:11:19.840
<v Speaker 1>John Elway He's done this his whole career. There's certain

1:11:19.920 --> 1:11:21.920
<v Speaker 1>teams that are right there with him. He knows he

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<v Speaker 1>gets their number as a player. Now is a GM alright.

1:11:25.880 --> 1:11:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Just takes us to Monday night football, to struggling teams

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<v Speaker 1>that really need to win in a bad way. I

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<v Speaker 1>would go as far as to say the loser's game,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, might just have to shut it down.

1:11:37.080 --> 1:11:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Loser disappointed four and six Packers who have lost four straight.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and are did we forked the Packers yesterday? I

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<v Speaker 1>have the show yesterday. I don't remember, um and they

1:11:50.640 --> 1:11:52.720
<v Speaker 1>what happened to? When you have a second child, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna remember anything. The Eagles, who were once upon

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<v Speaker 1>a time the talk of the NFL. Or have lost

1:11:57.840 --> 1:12:00.960
<v Speaker 1>three or four there now five and five. So both

1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.280
<v Speaker 1>these teams need to win in the worst way. Only

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<v Speaker 1>one will get it at Chris Westling, do you count

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<v Speaker 1>on Aaron Rodgers the show the Packers the way in

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<v Speaker 1>prime time against the NFL's best home defense this season,

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<v Speaker 1>averging nine point five points allowed in Philadelphia. That is

1:12:22.040 --> 1:12:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a tall order, especially considering they've played at Land in Pittsburgh.

1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Exactly if you are in you know, if you want

1:12:28.479 --> 1:12:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to get a leg up on your buddies and your

1:12:30.760 --> 1:12:33.280
<v Speaker 1>player of the week pool, because I know you all

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<v Speaker 1>have them, yeah, pool player of the week Carson Wentz.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on, the Packers defense has made Mariota

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<v Speaker 1>the player of the week. They've made Kirk Cousins the

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<v Speaker 1>player of the week. Carson Wentz is the next guy

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<v Speaker 1>up here, big big chance for everybody in your power leagues.

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<v Speaker 1>Power leagues. So I can't even get involved in those leagues.

1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I get too the most hmpassed by it. I get

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<v Speaker 1>too competitive. I had to step out of that. Uh

1:12:58.360 --> 1:13:02.599
<v Speaker 1>my first marriage, of course, I means are plenty. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna retire after picking a guayo before last week as

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<v Speaker 1>Special Teams Player of the Week. No one saw that coming,

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<v Speaker 1>did you? Did you put that on Twitter on Saturday?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope not barely exists. I wouldn't count then, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mention it. Um This Packers defense over the

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<v Speaker 1>last four games. We've mentioned this on Sunday Night is

1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:27.360
<v Speaker 1>you've got to go back to nineteen fifty one for

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<v Speaker 1>four game stretch where they've been as bad as they

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<v Speaker 1>are in terms of giving up points. And then you've

1:13:31.840 --> 1:13:34.600
<v Speaker 1>got Wentz who's thrown four touchdowns since Week five. But

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with Wes. I mean, you've got issues with

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<v Speaker 1>your with your backfield in Philadelphia. We need to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens over the next couple of days. Sprowles Matthews

1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:45.000
<v Speaker 1>both didn't practice on Wednesday. But come on, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a home game. Yes, let's attack. I think they've actually

1:13:49.560 --> 1:13:52.080
<v Speaker 1>let Wentz attack a little bit more. They don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have a downfield receiver. I mean they got Nelson Aguilar's

1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, seeing a sports psychologists say talking about this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he's not meeting with the meeting. They don't

1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have anyone to throw too. But I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>be aggressive. I think they're trying to put a little

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<v Speaker 1>more on went they can run the ball. I think

1:14:06.800 --> 1:14:09.400
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles have a sneaky could be a good running game,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they should put up points in this game. What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on with the sports psychologist? They should have

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson aghil or meet with Steve Smith. I got yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you know, the mental the mind, the

1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:25.800
<v Speaker 1>mind's eye. It's a very complicated thing. But what is

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<v Speaker 1>it like twenty three and probably someone a coach, a

1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:32.599
<v Speaker 1>position coach, probably said go do this, and so you say, yes, okay,

1:14:32.640 --> 1:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>but what happens in these meetings you will catch them? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I haven't had an athletics career since like seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what happens in those meeting in

1:14:42.120 --> 1:14:44.040
<v Speaker 1>junior high? Did they have sports Like I'm just saying

1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:45.880
<v Speaker 1>it was not even in the realm. It's like Stewart

1:14:45.960 --> 1:14:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Smalley talking to Michael Jordan's. Yeah, I'm trying to say,

1:14:49.160 --> 1:14:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like I don't I'm trying to be sensitive, but it

1:14:50.840 --> 1:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>just all seems a little ridiculous. This is it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough matchup for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense.

1:14:57.320 --> 1:14:59.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think if if you squit a little bit.

1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Can kind of see this Packers offense coming together the

1:15:02.560 --> 1:15:04.880
<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. I know they start every game slow,

1:15:05.240 --> 1:15:07.920
<v Speaker 1>which is a problem that their scripted plays. Their first

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the last three games has been really bad.

1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:13.120
<v Speaker 1>But I think Rogers has played pretty well the last

1:15:13.160 --> 1:15:15.519
<v Speaker 1>few weeks. I think Cobb made a few plays last week.

1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Cook kind of finally got off the Schneide. Adams has

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<v Speaker 1>been fantastic. I don't think the offense, you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>too far away if the defense could catch up. Pick

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<v Speaker 1>the game, Mark Eagles West and do you have a

1:15:28.640 --> 1:15:31.320
<v Speaker 1>point against all logic, I'm going Packers. I don't know

1:15:31.400 --> 1:15:33.720
<v Speaker 1>why Uh Kristy Michael is going to play this week.

1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:35.880
<v Speaker 1>He didn't know the offense last week, but Mike Rothy

1:15:35.960 --> 1:15:38.120
<v Speaker 1>has said he's going to be in the mix this week.

1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't read the playbook anyway though, So yeah, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. What does he need to know? Uh? Geez.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the hardest game for me to pick because

1:15:45.640 --> 1:15:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I could totally see laying an egg here. I mean

1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:51.639
<v Speaker 1>the Packers laying an egg on the road, and yet

1:15:51.960 --> 1:15:54.800
<v Speaker 1>like West, I feel like they might have one more

1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:57.840
<v Speaker 1>victory and them, I'll go with the Packers is more

1:15:57.960 --> 1:16:01.800
<v Speaker 1>death spasm. I never pick against the Eagles. It's just

1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:04.920
<v Speaker 1>basically been a stupid policy. There's ever been a smart

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<v Speaker 1>move in the history of picks in the NFL. Never

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<v Speaker 1>go against I mean, it feels like I have in

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<v Speaker 1>this year, doesn't I'm definitely not doing it at home

1:16:13.200 --> 1:16:15.760
<v Speaker 1>against the Packers taking the Eagle. What is with the

1:16:15.960 --> 1:16:20.040
<v Speaker 1>league's uh decision? And they love to do this putting

1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:22.240
<v Speaker 1>teams on two weeks in a row in prime time?

1:16:22.439 --> 1:16:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Do we really need to see Green Bay again on

1:16:24.960 --> 1:16:27.760
<v Speaker 1>prime time after we were just been through. I don't

1:16:27.760 --> 1:16:30.040
<v Speaker 1>mind the Packers. Yeah, I don't know, but kind of

1:16:30.360 --> 1:16:34.120
<v Speaker 1>interesting falling apart, they're almost a little more interesting with

1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the world burning around them. That's like cranky and things

1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:44.360
<v Speaker 1>are happening. Packers fans are some of the nicest people,

1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:46.719
<v Speaker 1>but that you can't ask like the world is burning

1:16:46.800 --> 1:16:50.920
<v Speaker 1>around Packers fans. They've had nothing but stellar quarterback play

1:16:51.000 --> 1:16:53.400
<v Speaker 1>going back to the early nineties. That's part of it.

1:16:53.600 --> 1:16:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Things are crumbling. The franchise is at a crossroads. All

1:16:57.560 --> 1:16:59.640
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna finish like eight and eight or nine and

1:16:59.720 --> 1:17:02.439
<v Speaker 1>set in and everything is gonna be just fine in

1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the end. And they'll get another six prime time games

1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:08.839
<v Speaker 1>next year. Um, Dan, do you remember the William Goldman

1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Mike Lupeka book which next year, And William Goldman talks

1:17:13.320 --> 1:17:15.479
<v Speaker 1>about Dwight Gooden, how he's on top of the world

1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:17.719
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty five. You've never seen a better twenty

1:17:17.800 --> 1:17:20.080
<v Speaker 1>year old picture in the history of baseball. It's like

1:17:20.160 --> 1:17:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers in two thousand fourteen, nineteen seven. Dwight Goodman's

1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:26.840
<v Speaker 1>about seventy, or Dwight Goods about seventy as good as

1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>he was, but he's not transcendent anymore. And you talk

1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:32.360
<v Speaker 1>yourself into all these excuses, but deep down and your

1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.160
<v Speaker 1>heart of hearts, you know you're never gonna see the

1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Dwight Gooden was. Well, I don't feel like you we

1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:40.320
<v Speaker 1>were all making excuses for Aaron. You were gonna go

1:17:40.560 --> 1:17:43.720
<v Speaker 1>and and and equivocate that somehow Aaron Rodgers is a

1:17:43.760 --> 1:17:47.400
<v Speaker 1>cocaine addict. But no, I'm saying that history tells us

1:17:47.400 --> 1:17:50.040
<v Speaker 1>we're probably never gonna see Aaron Rodgers to the high seat,

1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:53.519
<v Speaker 1>and even if he never does, he'll be a Hall

1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:57.120
<v Speaker 1>of Famer, no doubt about it. Two thousand fourteen, Aaron

1:17:57.200 --> 1:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is more interesting than falling apart. I I hear you,

1:18:00.920 --> 1:18:04.080
<v Speaker 1>but I I don't buy that we won't see him

1:18:04.120 --> 1:18:05.960
<v Speaker 1>at the top again. I think he's too good. I

1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:08.800
<v Speaker 1>think it might take a new coach. But I think

1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he's too good and he's still too young to we

1:18:10.760 --> 1:18:12.760
<v Speaker 1>would see him at a high We were calling him

1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the best quarterback we've ever seen in two thou fourteen.

1:18:15.000 --> 1:18:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't history says that probably won't happen again. It

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:21.320
<v Speaker 1>feels like a long time ago. We're saying September, Yes,

1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.759
<v Speaker 1>we were. I agree. Anyway, check out the Dave Damage

1:18:25.800 --> 1:18:29.280
<v Speaker 1>checked Football program where the pie off five went down.

1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:31.560
<v Speaker 1>And if you're tracking this at all, you might know

1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:34.519
<v Speaker 1>that the old Zeuser and Hands His Corp won our

1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:37.880
<v Speaker 1>third title in four years. Dynasty. Have any type of

1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:42.200
<v Speaker 1>applause or anything that's good, I'll take that. Are you

1:18:42.320 --> 1:18:45.519
<v Speaker 1>like Alexander the Great now when he took over the world,

1:18:45.560 --> 1:18:47.400
<v Speaker 1>he sat on the mountainside and cried because he had

1:18:47.439 --> 1:18:49.840
<v Speaker 1>nothing left to conquer? Well, actually, and and Bay, it's

1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:53.200
<v Speaker 1>my mother in law announced on the podcast she's retiring

1:18:53.520 --> 1:18:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Hands his Corps, shutting down nothing else to prove Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I think next year you should have to make the

1:18:57.880 --> 1:19:00.800
<v Speaker 1>pie and let's see what how that happens? What do

1:19:00.880 --> 1:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I gain? Nothing? And I can't make, I can't bake.

1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you know who is really insulted by this whole thing?

1:19:07.640 --> 1:19:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Tara Deaker. She is miserable. She encountered us in the

1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:13.479
<v Speaker 1>makeup room and she was she was flying off the

1:19:13.560 --> 1:19:16.120
<v Speaker 1>handle on the show. I implore everyone to listen to it.

1:19:16.240 --> 1:19:18.759
<v Speaker 1>It was. It was fun to hear a woman breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down with a microphone in front of her face. Always fun. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back on Sunday recapping all the games that

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<v Speaker 1>we just previewed, So make sure you come back, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and do that. Thank you again everyone, Sydney. One last

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<v Speaker 1>word to the audience. Yeah, just the website. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>seven windows of the Bahamas Hotel, Alibu Beach House, a

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<v Speaker 1>Dublin castle. She's trying to maybe buy it with cash.

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<v Speaker 1>I am honestly like speechless about the whole thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not very good at like expressing those feelings. But um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean with what great listeners we have, Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>listeners gave a gift to a worthy person. I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>we've had We've had some We've been attached to some people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know in the building that wouldn't deserve that gift.

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<v Speaker 1>She does. Yeah for sure. Um okay, let's get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Great job listeners, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Dan hands As signing off for the Quiet Storm. Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry that we picked the Browns this week. That's overblown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not upset. The man the boss and I said

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<v Speaker 1>buying the glass the Sunday and now a word from

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsor. On the day before Thanksgiving, we give thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for Helen Meees, the Dutch opinion right economist and lawyer who,

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<v Speaker 1>after university, spent six plus years toiling behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>of the Dutch Treasury in the Hague the Netherlands. Tired

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<v Speaker 1>of being tempered in a white, male dominated milieu. Me's

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<v Speaker 1>made waves in two thousand six as a fledgling opinion writer,

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<v Speaker 1>authoring a killer dissertation on Shanghai's influence over Western based economies,

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<v Speaker 1>before unleashing a rash of white hot essays on the

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<v Speaker 1>rise of the female workforce, most notably a piece entitled

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<v Speaker 1>No More Part Time Feminism and Examination on women ambition

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<v Speaker 1>and career in a post Margaret Thatcher universe. Me's never

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<v Speaker 1>lost her passion for economics, though, turning heads in November

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<v Speaker 1>with an unhinged editorial for the Daily Hague in which

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<v Speaker 1>she asked openly about the future cost of today's students,

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<v Speaker 1>ignoring the study of economics in quotes. If only the

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<v Speaker 1>Hague had a hero, she wrote, someone who cared enough

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<v Speaker 1>about our youth to teach pivotal lessons on supply and

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<v Speaker 1>demand chains and the influence of Red China on Western

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<v Speaker 1>economic thought. If only there was a figure brave enough

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<v Speaker 1>to give his life for the students of our country.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is that person? Will he ever rise and shine?

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<v Speaker 1>Sign up for Mr Flames High School Economics class in

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