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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, now available in Pumpkin Spikes. Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey Dan, she'd say, what's

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Speaker 1: up girl? Big development behind the glass. On Tuesday's show, Um,

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Speaker 1: we spoke of uh Sydney's misfortune the week prior, when,

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Speaker 1: into the final version of our podcast. Um, she turned

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Speaker 1: around her car started racing back to the office to

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Speaker 1: ended somebody bad news and she got banged with a

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Speaker 1: beefy mechanic Bill And we said, well, what can we do?

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Speaker 1: What can I do save our Sydney? And I reached

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Speaker 1: out to the greatest listeners in the world and we

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Speaker 1: asked uh a go fund Me account, if possible, we

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Speaker 1: could set it up. The subreddit led by the Fearless

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Speaker 1: leader over there, greeby that guy he is. He's one

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Speaker 1: of those guys you want the Fox, the foxhol He's

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Speaker 1: like the wolf from pulp fiction. It's like the Wolf.

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Speaker 1: He's like, I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos

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Speaker 1: with my son this week. In The Avengers Captain America,

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Speaker 1: he's like the point man about Michael Clayton, the Ultimate Fixer.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely little Clayton, the Ultimate in a big UM. And

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Speaker 1: I was working at a coffee shop last night. I

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Speaker 1: saw David Hasselhoff there. That's not connected to this story

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Speaker 1: at all, but I did see that Greeby had put

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Speaker 1: up a go fund me and UM with a goal

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Speaker 1: five hundred dollars, which sid you said, that was basically

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Speaker 1: what you were looking at for your repair that you

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Speaker 1: have to pay out to your insurance. It's called a

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Speaker 1: deductible deductible. And within three hours we had reached that goal.

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Speaker 1: And then when I woke up this morning and I checked, Uh,

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Speaker 1: I checked that go fund me again, Greeby had to

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Speaker 1: shut it down. Almost a thousand dollars raised, right, and

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Speaker 1: that was posted at midnight Eastern essentially it started. So

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Speaker 1: we should mention that, uh, mr F. Well, I want

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Speaker 1: to call out special attention to UM. A few people here,

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Speaker 1: Joshua Lowler fifty Bones, and then uh Bruno Gagnon, forty Bones,

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Speaker 1: you know everybody else. It was I believe over fifty

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Speaker 1: Do you have any comments for the listeners who have

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Speaker 1: made your life better on this Thanksgiving? You? Yeah? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to the amazing listeners that

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Speaker 1: we have. I mean, I woke up this morning and

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Speaker 1: of like, I think eight fifty at that point, and

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Speaker 1: feels very surreal at this point. Well, we had to

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Speaker 1: It's not just that she was talking up here before

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Speaker 1: you guys came up that. Oh it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: I have clothing to buy. I've got new sweaters at

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Speaker 1: some like. I'm not sure that's where the the extra

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Speaker 1: Disney is incredibly expected. Greg's shot down immediately. Sydney having

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Jo Yes. In fact, you could check

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Speaker 1: out my latest end around column where I actually went

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Speaker 1: through every single NFL auction item. Last night, I was

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Speaker 1: Did you run into Gunter? I didn't see Gunther there.

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Speaker 1: Gut is like feeling himself out in the Hollywood Hills,

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Speaker 1: the show, his entire economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands.

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Speaker 1: In fact, today's show on Tuesday show again, it's a

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Speaker 1: another show right here a day later. We broke down

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Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Thursday games, but there are no buys this week.

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Speaker 1: That means two teams, sixteen games. Nobody am by, so

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Speaker 1: we have thirteen more to get to. Even I can

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Speaker 1: us previewing games on so many different platforms that in

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Speaker 1: the four of them, Sessler Math, there literally one one

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Speaker 1: have all these games to get to. Why don't we start, guys,

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Speaker 1: Let's get right to it. Sydney's got a glow. It's

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Speaker 1: little trumpy, the best the best listeners in the world. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But uh, and they proved it again. Especially check out

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Speaker 1: that subreddit because a lot of the great um fun

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna start. We're gonna kind of ease

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Speaker 1: He's insane. We should give you, I mean, we take

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Speaker 1: it for granted at this point how good David Johnson is,

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Speaker 1: but he is. He has made the leap and then some.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he has been absolutely insane. You asked what happened?

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Speaker 1: I think it's there. If you can't, if you if

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Speaker 1: your offensive line is gonna fall apart in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the season. We've already talked about teams on the

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Speaker 1: show where that's the case and your offense gets reduced

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Speaker 1: to one fit of what it was. But you also

434
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Speaker 1: had guys like John Brown who looked primed to become

435
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Speaker 1: got issues. He has all type a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Was talking to DJ Move the Sticks, great podcast. He

437
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Speaker 1: has pretty good. He puts a lot of stock into

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Speaker 1: your offseason theory. He thinks Palmer's cooked. He doesn't think

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Speaker 1: Palmer's coming back, and he thinks that game was a

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Speaker 1: big reason why he watched him in the pocket. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to slide to his left. He's really reluctant

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Speaker 1: to do that. One last note from Bruce Arians, who

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Speaker 1: was in the hospital again uh recently, but should be

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines for this game. Uh. Kent Summers of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Republic reported that Arians is not happy with

446
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Speaker 1: first round pick Robert kim d J h doesn't work

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Speaker 1: hard enough, the coach said, Kim d chakim d chackim

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Speaker 1: d J. Why did you fall out that wheel though?

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Speaker 1: Im d jac m d J k m d J.

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Speaker 1: You must work harder to be Joe Potentio. Beautiful, pretty good,

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Speaker 1: just beautiful. Its poignant moment here. I'm gonna write that

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Speaker 1: story up. Look at the Cardinals. Three of their last

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Speaker 1: Footmance song. Yeah, I'm gonna include that in there. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask Sydney for the tape and put that in

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Speaker 1: the article. Three of their last four first round picks

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Speaker 1: are Kim d J d J. Humphries and Jonathan Cooper.

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Speaker 1: They got nothing out of those guys as rookies. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to be a contender, you can't. You

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Speaker 1: can't keep doing that well. I would say that. We

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Speaker 1: didn't see that until now because last offseason we were

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Speaker 1: still talking about the Cardinals for a lot of other

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Speaker 1: valid reasons as the premier team in the NFC when

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Speaker 1: it comes to developing, drafting and developing players, they were

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Speaker 1: already not doing that. You're they're taking their knowingly drafting

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Speaker 1: players who are projects in the first round when other

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Speaker 1: teams have decided we're not ready to take them in

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Speaker 1: the first round because they're gonna take a couple of

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Speaker 1: years to be ready. Um, let's move on. You know

469
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Speaker 1: who had another good mid range jump shot? Great eighteen footer,

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Speaker 1: Charles Oakley. Yeah, it's not Will that be the eighth

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Speaker 1: person that we compare Marcus Mariotta two on this show.

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Speaker 1: It's not even about Mario anymore. It's not like the

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Speaker 1: first thing of Oakley's game. It wasn't. I mean, he

474
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Speaker 1: was a brawler and a bruiser and a great teammate

475
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Speaker 1: or like Bill Wennington. But realized that stroked a little

476
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Speaker 1: Ricky Pierce action Ricky Pierce, but a great six man.

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Speaker 1: It's a grade eighteen footer. Uh, Bill Amber too, lamboknt stroke.

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Speaker 1: Next up, we traveled to hear that phrase, let's travel

479
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Speaker 1: to oh, the Factory of Sadness, where the Cleveland Browns

480
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Speaker 1: are and eleven looking for that first win, And here

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Speaker 1: come the New York Giants, who have seven wins seven

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Speaker 1: and three, riding a five game winning streak. Um, I

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Speaker 1: believe we have Josh McCown again behind center. Is that correct?

484
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Speaker 1: MRSSS correct? Yes, Cody Kesler was concussed last week. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile Eli Manning plays because Eli Mann has never

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Speaker 1: missed a game, which shows you the schism between these

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Speaker 1: two franchises. But anyway, Mark Sessler, well, just it's funny,

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely, it's not funny. But the Browns about six

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year. The Giants have had one. For the

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Speaker 1: passage is far from Uh. Yes, Now, I was going

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Speaker 1: to say, and it's a it's a credit to Eli.

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Speaker 1: It's a little underrated. His brother kind of got a

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Speaker 1: lot of that and far obviously, but Eli might pass him,

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Speaker 1: who knows. But anyway, Mark, is this the week that

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Speaker 1: the Browns get off the Snot? No? And I realized,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we've already discussed this game

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Speaker 1: on multiple other platforms. There is a clown car, a

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Speaker 1: trio of clowns floating around in a clown car. Who

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Speaker 1: all picked this game in favor of the Browns, And

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Speaker 1: I believe it's on YouTube. Greg, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 1: I forgot so angry that you picked this. You blew

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Speaker 1: up the segment to you know, as a spoiler alert,

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Speaker 1: give us not giving you your moment, NFL pick you

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Speaker 1: of all people, you guys asking me to give you

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Speaker 1: guys your moment. Well, I thought I was alone and

506
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Speaker 1: making I don't know. You have often said on this podcast. Look,

507
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Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers to back it up. I

508
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Speaker 1: don't have any kind of fancy logic. I just have

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Speaker 1: a feeling that's going to happen. And for the first

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Speaker 1: time all year, I have a feeling the Browns are

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Speaker 1: going to shake up the football world a little bit.

512
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Speaker 1: That everybody's patting the Giants on the back this year

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Speaker 1: like they're legitimate seven and three. They're lucky to be seven,

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Speaker 1: and this is a nine or ten win team, the

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Speaker 1: fewest the fewest. Mark Conroy wrote a good article about

516
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Speaker 1: it earlier this week, The smallest margin of victory for

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Speaker 1: a seven win team in NFL history for seven wins,

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Speaker 1: and that said, the whole league is a rather watered

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Speaker 1: down operation right now, So I don't have a problem.

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Speaker 1: The Giants, to me, don't stand out is the one

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Speaker 1: team in the league that doesn't deserve their record. Well

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Speaker 1: you don't. I'm a little confused right now because you

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Speaker 1: you're saying the Breton Giants aren't that good, They're not

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Speaker 1: as good as their record, said on the record that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win in the Browns, I just said that

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with them winning close games that

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Speaker 1: teams all around the league don't deserve their record the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Giants are a six win team or a

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Speaker 1: five win team, but they're not a bad team. But

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Speaker 1: I know that this is a different regime now in

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Speaker 1: New York. But the Giants they they'll get games here

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Speaker 1: and there, and this feels like the one They shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be eight and three after eleven games. And this is

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Speaker 1: also like kind of like it's not really the right

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Speaker 1: way to analyze sports at all. But the Giants don't

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Speaker 1: feel like they're going to be an eight and three team.

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Speaker 1: I think seven and four is definitely appropriate, if not

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Speaker 1: six and five. So I think this is where they

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Speaker 1: get pinched. And I think the Browns winning I think

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Speaker 1: we're all in agreement that Cleveland probably is going to

541
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Speaker 1: go about one in fifteen, So that win is coming coming.

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Speaker 1: It's got to come at some point. You're running out

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Speaker 1: of times. It might be the easiest one on the schedule.

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Speaker 1: This is the left Bengals are left. I would say,

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Speaker 1: Bengals here, here's the thing. The Browns are getting worse.

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Speaker 1: That's the I totally agree with. Browns have been getting

547
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Speaker 1: completely agree their defense, if it was even semi tight

548
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Speaker 1: over the first month. They're losing players. There's players that

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Speaker 1: have been injured. They've got absolutely nothing in their secondary.

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Speaker 1: And now you're, oh, it's let's stop Odell Beckham, let's

551
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Speaker 1: stop Sterling Shepard, let's stop a run game. It's actually

552
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Speaker 1: a little bit better than it's been in the past,

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: which means it will be good against Cleveland. Well, the

554
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: Bears were right there with the Giants, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to bury this Giants team, and and

556
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: for a second last week I started thinking, you know what,

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Speaker 1: they are coming around a little bit. They are able

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Speaker 1: to run the football with Rashad Jennings. They are able

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Speaker 1: to hit a few big players in the passing game,

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Speaker 1: which was not happening early in the season. They're making

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Speaker 1: some progress. But then they're playing the Bears and they've

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Speaker 1: got a touchdown lead and their last five possessions of

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00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: that game, they had two first downs. They could not

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Speaker 1: put that game away. They just all the momentum. I'm thinking, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is starting to look good. They just stopped and

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Speaker 1: and that's how I feel with this right team. They're

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Speaker 1: a stop and start games. It's like it's like a

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions winning streak. They could have lost any of

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Speaker 1: those games. I guess that. You know. My argument would

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Speaker 1: be if the for going to play the Chiefs this weekend,

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Speaker 1: all of this is fully in play. You're playing a

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Speaker 1: Brown's team that has crippled in multiple areas. You gave

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Speaker 1: up eight sacks to the Steelers, you lost one quarterback

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Speaker 1: for like the eighth time this year. And then the cown,

575
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Speaker 1: who I think has better athletic traits than any other

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Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster, also is going to give you

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Speaker 1: this season two killer turnovers a game and you can't.

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Speaker 1: He is good enough McCown where he could look like

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Speaker 1: a good quarterback for stretches, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: a game where it could happen. And I think Durell

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Speaker 1: Pryor is gonna win a game one of these weeks.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll have a seven for one eight and

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Speaker 1: two times. Mean, if I get this wrong, I'm never

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be the great, the great thing that

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Speaker 1: the Browns finally win, and I'm gonna be change your pick.

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Speaker 1: I don't want you to enjoy this victory anyways, by

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Speaker 1: the way, not changing it, and and it is it

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Speaker 1: is ridiculous. This meed to tell me that I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: enjoy the first victory after Thanksgiving. It's there's nothing to enjoy.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll like you want them to win? How

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Speaker 1: about how about I will tell you how I will think.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this is the theory of knowing you

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Mark is that you've been so

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Speaker 1: frustrated by watching them that you don't even like to

595
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: hear people that aren't watching them quite as close saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win this week because you you're so angry

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: at them for sucking so hard. This season has gotten

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Speaker 1: to the point that if you if if the final

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Speaker 1: joke would be you lose the number one pick to

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Speaker 1: the forty niners, get the job done. Go and six

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Speaker 1: get the number one. Listen, you have to. They lost

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota by being the second or third worst team.

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00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: They lost Andrew Luck by being the second or third

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Speaker 1: worst team. If you're gonna get it done, get it done.

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Speaker 1: So now you want them. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: crazy thing. I don't want them to go in sixteen.

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Speaker 1: I want them to get the number one just because

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Speaker 1: don't lose out again on the quarterback. We spoiled our

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Speaker 1: picks here. Uh if you watch, and you should watch

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Speaker 1: the NFL pick Um Show, but that we picked a

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Speaker 1: couple other games and the content is dynamite. This week Saturday,

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Speaker 1: three times. I got the times this time five thirty

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Speaker 1: in the morning Pacific, nine thirty in the morning Pacific,

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Speaker 1: and ten thirty pm Pacific, and just add three three

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Speaker 1: hours in your brain for East Coast. We got some

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Speaker 1: ratings pop, So you know I'm excited a good ratings.

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Speaker 1: Didn't out on the quarterback in the draft last year, right,

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Speaker 1: you traded out of that pick. I did not do

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Speaker 1: that well. The Browns, yes, they did. Thank you. You

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Speaker 1: think that I've forgotten that anyone in the room forgotten

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Speaker 1: that No I'm just saying you were saying that they

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Speaker 1: need to stop missing out of these picks. I would say,

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Speaker 1: I would say that that has been an equally annoying

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Speaker 1: trade of them. But they have They have also managed

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Speaker 1: to get to a point where the Marcus Mariottas of

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Speaker 1: the world who they liked Marcus Mariotta at the time,

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Speaker 1: sneak by you. Okay, do you mentioned the chiefs mark?

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Speaker 1: This is similar to last week's Buccaneers. Nobody predicted the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't logical. Someone did anything could make this happen.

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Speaker 1: You predicted. Oh that was like a Saturday call, not

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Speaker 1: like on this podcast. You know, Saturday lab us of

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Speaker 1: nature of this show is did you make the call

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Speaker 1: on the podcast? We're on our show, game or ours?

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Speaker 1: Where we should move on? Did you make the calling

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Speaker 1: your pick them show? You're right, I called it on

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Speaker 1: Twitter before the game. It doesn't count. That's the rules

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00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: were playing by. Okay, let's move on. You know, you

638
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: would think that us picking the Browns would lead to solidarity,

639
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: but it did the opposite. It's just it's weird that

640
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: you never know what could happen, and I wasn't. I

641
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: wasn't going to pick the Browns at all, but I

642
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: got carried away in the emotion of it while we

643
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: were taping. You guys convinced me I had no idea

644
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: I would ever draw Mike's marks ire by picking the

645
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Browns to win a game specifically or not drawing my ir.

646
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: It's a it's a complicated scenario. Let's move on the

647
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams travel to New Orleans to face

648
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: the Saints to four and six teams. Uh. And it's

649
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: a strength against strength game. If you want to get

650
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: excited here that the Saints have a truly great offense.

651
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: In fact, they're first overall in the league statistically, and

652
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: the Rams have a top five or just outside defense. Uh.

653
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: And yet Greg rosentall as good as the Rams have

654
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: been on defense. When you're playing in the Superdome, it's

655
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna hard. It's gonna be very difficult to keep the

656
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: Saints under you know, twenty eight points, right, it will.

657
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: And the Saints have have faced some good defenses lately,

658
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: and they faced the Broncos, they face the Panthers, and

659
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: they've started those games out slowly, and yet those last

660
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: two weeks it's weird. I think higher of the Saints. Now,

661
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just a homer this season. I think higher

662
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: of them now than I did before those two losses.

663
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: Can't be a homer. Well, they're not technically your team now.

664
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just or biased or whatever. I think

665
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: they've looked better because they have a defense now, and

666
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: you don't have to have a great defense to stop

667
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: Jared Goff. You just have to have a solid defense

668
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: with a little bit of pass rush, and now they

669
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: have that. Especially at home, you need eleven players. Pople

670
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: West has been barre in golf. It was a bad game,

671
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: but it was one game this great though. It's on

672
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the road, so that's a tough task for any rookie

673
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: quarterback making a second start. But you're going in a

674
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: place where points are usually plentiful. I will give a

675
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: little bit of past in the rain, nerves and all that,

676
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: but he's got a West gotta put some points on

677
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: the board in this game, right, Greg. Tell me if

678
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: any of these statements are false or if you disagree

679
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: with him. He was a downgrade on case Keenum they

680
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: couldn't run their full offense. Agree with your assessments? Did

681
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: he go first read almost every time he dropped back

682
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: and didn't examine the field. Yeah, isn't that the hazard

683
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Or isn't that going to happen when you put a

684
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: rookie in in November, you're gonna get what should have

685
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: been figured out by now. To some degree, I think

686
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: it's what happened when you put a rookie and who's

687
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: not ready to play? Well, I mean there themselves said

688
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't for a long long time. Suddenly the switch

689
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: went on. Well, they had another home game after the

690
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: crowd had chanted for him in the previous They're also

691
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: an offense that I don't care who the quarterback is.

692
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: It's case Keenum is not a massive upgrade over over

693
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: any right. They had scored two touchdowns in three weeks

694
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: with Keenum, so, but the quarterbacks in a tough situation

695
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: in that offense as it is. I just think it's

696
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: one of the most uncreative vanilla attacks league wide, and

697
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch. It raises the question, who is

698
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: who's gonna is he learning an offense? Is he getting

699
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: experience that's just gonna go out the window because they're

700
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: gonna have a new offense next year. Anyways, Well, isn't

701
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: this the time of the year where Jeff Fisher annually

702
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: changes his offensive coordinator because the offense doesn't work. It's

703
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: fine if they switch coaches. I mean, it's that happened

704
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: to Marcus Marray, they switch head coaches. I don't think

705
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: that's totally out of this not but you I don't.

706
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: I think it was. It's beyond time to have put

707
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: him in there. Well, who's more important to the franchise,

708
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Jared Golf or Jeff Fisher. So I think we know

709
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: by now that Jeff Fisher is not the guy to

710
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: bring out the best in Jared Golf. Um the society

711
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: properly appreciate Drew Brees. No, he is on pace for

712
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: five thousand, two hundred and forty three yards this season,

713
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: would be the third most in NFL history. He is

714
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: just as good as he ever was. And uh, and

715
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: guys like Peyton Manning before he fell off the cliff

716
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: and like Tom Brady now get a ton of credit

717
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: for staying good. But Drew Brees is an undersized dude.

718
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: That is what thirty seven now And he's as good

719
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: as ever. Uh, that's you know now, You're you're right.

720
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: His future feels more secure in New Orleans now than

721
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. I think he's having a

722
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 1: better season now than he did a year ago or

723
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: the year before. Well, you mentioned Brady and and Manning,

724
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: and they had the a, the longevity. It was their

725
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: number one saying with Breeze, but they had the added

726
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 1: component of playing against each other in so many massive

727
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: games that there was almost a legendary pairing and Breeze

728
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: and this. And because the Saints are not what any

729
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning called so Broncos team or a Brady Patriots team,

730
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: they've been much more inconsistent. They made one, they've made

731
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: two NFC championships. But I mean Drew Brees is in

732
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: like a hundred and seven commercials and I would add

733
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: on over exposed on something. Well maybe as a commercial

734
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: entity years, but I mean it's a pure player undervalued.

735
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: And he also maybe lacks that rival like a Brady manager.

736
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: KAEPERNICKA could have been him, but it didn't become that way.

737
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan it could have been, and maybe it will again,

738
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: but he's been kind of and it's a it's a tangent,

739
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: but I started thinking that Tom Brady was awarded the

740
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: first Team All Decade Pro Football Hall of Fame Team

741
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: last decade, and he has a pretty good chance to

742
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: do it again, which is just an outrageous statement. I

743
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: started thinking who else would be the candidates for this decade,

744
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: and I would put Breeze third right now, but behind

745
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: Brady and Rogers. I Breeze had a lot of his prime,

746
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, in the last decade too. He probably would

747
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: have been third or fourth in the last decade. We'll

748
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: see how luck finishes out this decade. He yeah, came

749
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: in Rogers. It's a while ago. Oh by Oh, I

750
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: almost forgot. I mean, this Rams team is dead. Jared Goff,

751
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: forget it. Saints are the best four and sixth team

752
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: in the entire not giving them up, lock it up?

753
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: Locking it up. Wow. Uh, that's a great pick, Greg

754
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: Because Drew Brees he's thrown at least three touchdown passes

755
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: and nine of his last ten home games. There is

756
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: no way. I don't know if he'll throw three or

757
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: three or four touchdowns here, but there's no way the

758
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Rams are scoring twenty points in this game. It's just

759
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. The only thing that could happen. Haven't

760
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: the Rams more than once done something very annoying like

761
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: hold a big offense to like ten points. Thinking what

762
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: happened there? Well, I mean Greg's not afraid though, That's

763
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: why he took out the old vault. Got is your close.

764
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: He got the proper combination through the game in there

765
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: and sealed it up. See your Sunday night. Put those

766
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: onions in a gumbo or something. Let's move on San Francisco.

767
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: Forty niners or one and nine? They stink now they

768
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: travel to Miami to face the Dolphins, who are six

769
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: and four. Uh Dolphins, just beat the Rams. You know,

770
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Handsome Hank come back to me, came after me on

771
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: Twitter for a lot of pull coming back to here

772
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: at this you know, you know, coming after me on

773
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: Twitter as they're Handsome Hank because I was wrong about

774
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins coming back down to Earth. This is the

775
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins that we're getting shut out with four minutes to

776
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: play by the by the Rams. Uh so. And then

777
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: and because we know Handsome Hank, he's he's a sneaky

778
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: little guy and he's a cunning man. He sends out

779
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: that tweet knowing that he has the forty Niners coming

780
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: up too, so and I'm sure he'll double down the tweets. Whatever.

781
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Have your fun, handsome Hank. But it's all gonna come

782
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: back around because this Dolphins team may go nowhere, mark

783
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: my words. Well, I've just said only a score. There,

784
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: you guys can talk about the game. I think we

785
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: talked last week about a California hat trick, and here's

786
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: my one argument briefly, and then you can discuss that

787
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: it's going to happen a well, there's two parts. An

788
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: pull off a California this weekend. They're gonna do it.

789
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: Forty Niners over the last five weeks. These are what

790
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: you've allowed on the ground and rushing three hundred and

791
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: thirteen yards in one game, two hundred and forty nine,

792
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: the next game two hundred eight better. That was better.

793
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. And now the Dolphins on the ground

794
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: over the last five weeks two hundred and twenty two

795
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: to fifty six, one seven, one oh six. Game over,

796
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: are you I'm not locking This is not a lock.

797
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: You don't lock up against the Niners. I'm just telling

798
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: you game over, j G. I what you're saying. Translation

799
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: for the fantasy folk out there, as we head down

800
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: the home stretch of your regular seasons, you better have

801
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: j GI in the lineup in a big spot. I

802
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: would be surprised if anyone's pulling a GI from their lineup,

803
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: and at all Simpleton's sure, Simpleton's brain dead. People who

804
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: had them on their bench, drug Addico that forgot that

805
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: they even had a fantasy team might have just light

806
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: bulb went off because they're laying in their own vomit

807
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: listening to our podcast. Point made. If you wanted to

808
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate in favor of Jared Goffe's performance last week,

809
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: you would point out that the Rams went overly conservative

810
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: because they didn't need him to do anything against this

811
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense. They punted on what their first eleven possessions,

812
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: and that was in the rain against a better defense.

813
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's some kind of fate of

814
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: fatal complete that they're gonna route now. I don't know.

815
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: Forty Niners have been more competitive the last two weeks.

816
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: It's a fact they know we make jokes. Maybe it's

817
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: not gonna last. They were the worst team I've seen

818
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: a long time before those last two weeks, but they

819
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: were more They've been more competitive, and the Dolphins are

820
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: gonna be missing palency again. They're probably gonna be missing

821
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: Brandon Albert again. I mean those are their two best

822
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for an offense it's, you know, not a

823
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: juggernaut offense. That's a problem teams in a lost season

824
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: flying three thousand miles to play a game known to

825
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: lay an egg. Kaepernick's playing a little bit better. Staying

826
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: in California. Well, they're in Miami for this game they

827
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: had would make sense if the if the Dolphins were

828
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: to stay in California, that would be another way to lose.

829
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: Adam Gates said he he thought he learned his team

830
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: was a little more mature than he expected with that

831
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: that whole California trip. Kaepernick, maybe he's not playing that great.

832
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: He's been a great fantasy quarterback. It's been a top

833
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: five fantasy quarterback. Great over Blaine Gabbert. It's been an

834
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: upgrade over Blaine Gabbert. All right, and let me look

835
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: at this schedule now, because Handsome Hank is diabolical, so

836
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure he studied all these things. Six and four,

837
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: they got the at home four. You assume they'll win that.

838
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: Seven and four at Ravens. Counted out with me, Greg

839
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: at Ravens. Seven and five home to Cardinals I'll give

840
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: him that. Eight and five at Jets surprise loss, surprise,

841
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: lost their division matchup like it, Patty will be starting

842
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: by the end. That's will win. Eight and six at

843
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: Phils loss, eight and seven home to Patriots. Patriots will

844
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: do something stupid and blow that. They'll be like they'll be,

845
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: They'll be playing. They'll bring Stephen Jackson out of retirement

846
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: to run the ball. Not in seven, Ain gonna do it, handsome,

847
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Hank go home, go all the way to Britain. No,

848
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: I like him. I want him to stay here. I

849
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: mean that that whole, that whole prediction hinges on the

850
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: jet speeding the love that that will be fun. I'm

851
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: going up because Hank now has a beautiful third floor

852
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: office with a window overlooking the entire complex. Uh. It's

853
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: the it's the reward for being, you know, a future

854
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: commissioner in the NFL, as we know. I'm gonna just

855
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: go up there with him, watch that game, and then

856
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: really rub it into him. The Jets ender. He has

857
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: breakfast brought to him every day in that office. Only breakfast. Well,

858
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he could ask some more, but

859
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: he likes to get down and stretch his legs to

860
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: get lunch and big long legs, big corporate card. Let's

861
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: move on, Henry Tucky, he's gonna kill us us go

862
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: after me pretty good, I would think. At at Houston,

863
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about what's going on there. San Diego charges

864
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: four and six UH inexplicably not forked. They're gonna win

865
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: out according to UH some ten and six. That's the

866
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: record there, four and six they're gonna they're gonna have

867
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: to win out to get to UH to this tenant six,

868
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: and I guess it has to start in Houston against

869
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: the six and four Texans. UH. Texans still ahead in

870
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: the a f C South, but you know it's a

871
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: tenuous grip. It has to beat Chris Westling with all

872
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 1: their issues. They have an offense. You're right, the fork

873
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: committee really lacked onions this year. What we should have

874
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: done is forked one of these teams, the one in

875
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: first place in the a f C South. We should

876
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: have had onions now would have been fun. We've got

877
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: lacks of onions with the four committee this year. There's

878
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. We've got a four and six

879
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: team against the six and four team here and tell

880
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: me what area if any does the six and four

881
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: team have an advantage on the four and six team.

882
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I can't find one, Like, you're absolutely right, and well

883
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: advanced metrics tell you the same thing. Defense overall, you'd

884
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: have to I'm taking the Chargers defense in this game.

885
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm taking them in this game because they're playing Houston.

886
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: But their run defense, I would say, in particular, Houston's

887
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: pretty good stopping the run. I mean, Romeo, Cornell Charter better.

888
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: Not a great defense, but they're better than that. Charges

889
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: have been a better run defensive team than in Texans

890
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: all year long. They do get to Tavis Brown and

891
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: Denzel Paraman back this week, which is much needed news

892
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. Corey t was playing awesome for them,

893
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: is not coming back to that team. The Texans credit

894
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: for their defense for how many times have you been

895
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: saddled with three and out drives, multiple punts and at

896
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: home and you saved the team. So yes, they've been great.

897
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: The Chargers don't blow anyone out. This will be a

898
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: tight game. It would be a tough game. I think

899
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: it's a tough one for both of these teams. That

900
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: the Texans are coming off a real tough loss and

901
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: it's a short week, and the Chargers are coming off

902
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: by teams teams have not been playing well off buys

903
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: and and a tough loss for themselves where it kind

904
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: of felt like the air of their momentum was coming

905
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: out from I mean, but to back your point that

906
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers are essentially gonna win out, I would say

907
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the way that happens is if you're the Texans, unless

908
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: you get a pick six, which they did a couple

909
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Unless you have something like that happen,

910
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: how do you keep pace with San Diego's offense unless

911
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get Philip Rivers. Those those interceptions that what

912
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: the four of them, two of them, I would say,

913
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: We're not on Rivers to some degree. He's not gonna

914
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: do that multiple interception thing game after game, and you've

915
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: got to find a way to generate points with what

916
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: is the worst quarterback starting quarterback in the league. I mean,

917
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: they were in position to kick the field goal just

918
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: about and win the game. They're the Chargers against Miami.

919
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: That that was a killer killer. He threw four in

920
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: the same quarter. But he leads the NFL and interceptions

921
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers Since Week seven, He's got eight of them,

922
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: So he's made he's making some mistakes. Maybe he's forcing

923
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: it a little bit. Great quarterback, though that one game

924
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: is not half. Some of those picks were not him,

925
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: but they were they were they were pushing. But I

926
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: also think Rivers is the guy I'd put above Gosh

927
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: almost like all but two quarterbacks in the league where

928
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: it's just like this guy is going to keep you

929
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: in the game somehow. You're gonna be there in the

930
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and Rivers is gonna do something. Again. We've

931
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: seen it a thousand times. I know because of our

932
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: four committee meeting that I believe West and Greg will

933
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: take the Chargers. Here. Pick this game, Mark, who do

934
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: you will take the Chargers? I'll lone wolf this one.

935
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers get finished off. Let's move on. Yeah.

936
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watch NFL, you know game

937
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: day morning every morning, and then I DVR and then

938
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: even after the games are played, I watch it again.

939
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 1: When you do the lone wolf, you're supposed to make

940
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: like a Wolfie sound okay, I've never seen the show.

941
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: If you're gonna loan wolf it, then you know what

942
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. It's a big spot. Oh what are

943
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: you gonna do it up, lock it off. I like

944
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: it because it's in a way like you want to

945
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: stick it to me, because I feel like you're trying

946
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: to stick it to our chargers. Have a little bit.

947
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: You read it properly. It's a little stick for stick,

948
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: a little stick for stick, a little tip for tat,

949
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: and I like it. That's what it's about. In the

950
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: podcast studio, Sticks and Tits and Tats say that right, Yes,

951
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: we're allowed to say it's city if we get sued

952
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: by the FCCU is a chunk of your massive endowment

953
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: from the listenership, like your new found That needs to

954
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: be a sound drop that last sequence, tats. Uh. Let's

955
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: move on to Seattle. Seahawks seven two and one, one

956
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: of the very best teams in football, travel to Tampa

957
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: to face the Buccaneers. Scorching Buccaneers. The scorching Buccaneers. They

958
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: have won three or four and they're hanging around in

959
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: the NFC. Didn't even get brought up in the Final

960
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: four committee meeting Matton itself as a victory in my mind.

961
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: Uh So, now they have to figure out a way

962
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: to beat Russell Wilson. But it's not gonna be easy, Greg,

963
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: not at all. No, it won't. I didn't really think

964
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: they had much of a chance, uh to beat the Chiefs.

965
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: I didn't think they had much of a chance to

966
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: beat any NFL team, even if it's the Bears by

967
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: twenty six points. So this team has surprised us, and

968
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: if nothing else, they're getting lucky in terms of when

969
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: they face this Seahawks team. The Seahawks team is playing

970
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: well right now, but they are going to be without

971
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Process for the rest of the year. They're gonna be

972
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: without Earl Thomas in this game. I think de Sean

973
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: shed is out for this game. Michael Bennett is out

974
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: for this game. And so you know, you give them

975
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 1: a little bit of a chance to move the ball

976
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: on offense with Jamis Winston. Why not. Are they gonna

977
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: be without Cliff Averril, without Bobby Wagner, Now, those guys

978
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: are gonna be Are we sure the Buccaneers can handle

979
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: It's my favorite part of the show, by the way,

980
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: what I just sit back and enjoy this whenever Winston

981
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 1: conversation breaks out? Are we sure the Buccaneers can handle

982
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: their success? They're they gotta be riding high, not being

983
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: forked by us on Tuesdays, not even discussed. It's a

984
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: tough batch. Javis Winston has a lot on his plate,

985
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: no matter what you if you like him or you

986
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: don't eat, I think it's fair to say for a

987
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: second year quarterback, he has more on his plate than

988
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: a lot of second year quarterbacks. It comes wait issues

989
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: under control. There's no need for that stuff. I mean

990
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: the decision making that he makes, that, the line of scrimmage,

991
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: all of that, you know, going through his reads. He

992
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: did a really good job last week. The Seahawks are

993
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: a tough team to dissect. Uh you know before the snap.

994
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean they're a team that's gonna scramble your mind,

995
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Well, mind scrambling. A special team

996
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: they are. I did not realize what we were dealing

997
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: with their mine scramblers. I've just said that, the tough

998
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: team to win from the neck up against. It makes sense.

999
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: But Ted Wells on this team mind scrambling. Um, So

1000
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: you think this will be a close game, Come on,

1001
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: go ahead, do it. Greg's turned on the Buccaneers. No, yeah,

1002
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't let him talk you out of it. He's

1003
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: turned on the Bucks. I well, I thought they were

1004
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: really lucky to be three and five, like to get

1005
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: to that record, that's all. I thought they were one

1006
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: of the worst teams. They've played really well, and Jamis

1007
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: is playing really well. They haven't Mike Evans absolutely. Doug

1008
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: Martin looked a little better last week. Third straight thousand

1009
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: yards season coming up from Mike Evans, which puts them out,

1010
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: you know, among Randy Moss and a few other really

1011
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: phenomenal talents, only four I think, ever, but Mr Sherman

1012
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: travels more now than he used to. I think they

1013
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: would have him on Evans most of the especially with

1014
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: the injuries that they have there. That's a good point.

1015
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: The problem is they're playing the team I picked to

1016
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl here that I think is looking fantastic.

1017
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: And Russell Wilson is been dynamite. You know, everyone's all

1018
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: excited about him moving, you know, moving around well again.

1019
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: He's making these throws from the pocket. I think he's

1020
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: doing that more than than he did earlier in his career.

1021
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: Most of these throws are just dropped back and passed.

1022
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: It's him running around. You could possibly have it both ways,

1023
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: if you really are rooting in your heart of hearts

1024
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: for some sort of an upset that Seattle after this

1025
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: does not play a team with a winning record for

1026
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, you're gonna get both. I'm

1027
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: rooting for the Bucks. I got sandwiches on the line.

1028
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: If they somehow sneaking to the playoffs, I get some sandwiches.

1029
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't think what Dirk Cutter said about Winston after

1030
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: last game, and he was he praised him highly. I

1031
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: don't know why we always have to any time we

1032
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: mentioned Winston. It's in comparison to Mariota, and interesting that

1033
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: at all. I think that Winston, watching the Chiefs game

1034
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: and watching some of his other showdowns has been excellent.

1035
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: For his second year in the league. Winston might be

1036
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: one of the least talked about quarterbacks who should be

1037
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: talked about a lot more. DJ had the uniforms. Yeah,

1038
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: I think that's very fair. I think you're down football.

1039
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: Nowhere's Ville down in Tampa, team that gets less attention

1040
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: than any team in the league outside of Jacksonville. And

1041
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. But DJ raised

1042
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: the good question, Danna Jeremiah, who would you who would

1043
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: you take of the last four quarterbacks drafted? Mariotta, Winston, Wentz,

1044
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 1: and Dac and his larger point was he thinks this,

1045
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: this group, this foursome is gonna be a really good foursome,

1046
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: that the league's kind of in good hands, that they

1047
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: have this little next wave. You could throw Derek Carr

1048
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: if you wanted in there. He's that Yeah, you definitely should.

1049
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: But but those are from the last two classes alone,

1050
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: four guys who you would think it's gonna be around

1051
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: a long time. By the way, that is your second

1052
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,359
Speaker 1: DJ reference. If you sorry, it's like the Beatle Juice rule.

1053
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: If you say it a third time, the entire underworld

1054
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: will come to life on this podcast. Have you been

1055
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: watching Have you been listening to the Move the Sticks

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00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: podcast pretty frequently? Greg Um? No? Oh, that's good to

1057
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: know because you you confide it in me yesterday that

1058
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: you never listened to our podcast. So if you were

1059
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: listening to his and not even hinting at listening to ours,

1060
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: I would think, you know we're back in You know

1061
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: we're back when we're last year with his pet project.

1062
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Hey we uh that project project? You never know that

1063
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: might come back to what what is it? Go ahead? How?

1064
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Thank you? Sorry? I talked over go ahead?

1065
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: That's good I like that. So who was your choice

1066
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: out of those four quarterbacks? Who do you think? Yeah,

1067
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: m let's move on. The New York Jets are coming

1068
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: off thereby they will host the New England Patriots, and uh,

1069
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: Pats are eight and two rolling along. Mike get Rob

1070
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: Gronkowski back this week. He was practicing as of the

1071
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: taping of the show on Wednesday. UM, we uh don't

1072
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: know for sure, but it seems like that could be

1073
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: a possibility. Um. On the Jet side, Todd Bowles came

1074
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: out and announced that Ryan Fitzpatrick is once again the

1075
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: team's starter, which to me is a huge red flag

1076
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: that Todd Bowles is worried about his job. It's the

1077
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: only thing to me, That's how I read into it.

1078
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: That he doesn't think Bryce Petty is either the answer

1079
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: or ready at this time. And uh, he wants to

1080
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: try to win seven games or so and some ownership

1081
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: doesn't can a four and twelve coach. That's how I

1082
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: read into it. We'll see if it works out. And

1083
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: one thing before we this is not a good Jet team,

1084
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 1: but just a how much things have changed from last

1085
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 1: year the last time these teams met. The Jets beat

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00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots in overtime to be to go to ten

1087
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: and five. The world was an amazing place for me

1088
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: at least and millions of others jez fans. Things are

1089
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: very different now, very different. After watching the Rams Jets

1090
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: game week, tend to watch that. I can't imagine any

1091
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: clear thinking Jets fan wanting to see Brice Bryce Petty

1092
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: in November or even before weeks seventeen. They cannot run

1093
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: a real offense with Bryce Petty. I'm sorry you can't.

1094
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: It's like watching a worst Jared Goff. He was terrible

1095
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: in that game. He checked down or went with the

1096
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: first raid on almost every throw. And you're not talking

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 1: about a first round draft pick here. You're talking about

1098
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: a guy who's unlikely to ever be a solution to anything.

1099
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: Don't put your fan base through his offense. I think

1100
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 1: you have to play Fitzpatrick and if the season is

1101
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: lost in weeks sixteen or seventeen and you want to

1102
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: get a glimpse of a guy who has a chance

1103
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: to be a decent backup someday, played Brice Petty. But

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00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: he was so bad in that Rams game that you're

1105
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: not serving your fan base by playing him at all.

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't think he played well, but I thought he

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: showed some moments he led the team. Did you wait

1108
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: let me finish at ninety nine your touchdown drive? He

1109
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: missed a wide open Robby Anderson, which was a bad miss,

1110
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: which I really think. And again one thing and the

1111
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: same thing with Goff. You you didn't like the way

1112
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: he looked at all. I have to give some of

1113
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: these guys a little bit of room in the first

1114
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: start of their careers. There could be butterflies. They're they're

1115
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to get their feet under them. That's why

1116
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you want to see four to five games of Bryce

1117
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: Petty and not one or two. I I know that

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00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is not the future. Even if Ryan, even

1119
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: if Bryce Petty, if I'm gonna learn he's the backup,

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Speaker 1: I want to actually get a good look at him

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00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: and not just go kind of blind based on his

1122
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: draft pedigree or the offense he came out of in college.

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Speaker 1: But if you can't run an NFL offense with him,

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00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: that defeats the whole purpose. And they don't know that yet.

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Speaker 1: They didn't run an NFL offense with him, and I

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00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: don't think they can. There's nothing I've seen out of

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00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty in preseason or or otherwise. That makes me

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Speaker 1: think you can run an NFL offense with this guy.

1129
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: But what do you get with Ryan Fitzpatrick a competitive

1130
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: NFL team. You're still in November. It's not time to

1131
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: give up on the season. I'm weird fans to that

1132
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: kind of football, I'm weird, but Fitzpatrick scares me a

1133
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: little bit at this point. Don't count this as just

1134
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: an automatic w because I want to see what happens

1135
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: with this Patriots defense. And I think back to last year.

1136
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: I know it's a different Jets team, but they played

1137
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: them tight two games last year. It wasn't just the

1138
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: game they want. Both of those games were really evenly

1139
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: played games. And if one quarterbacks is gonna get hot

1140
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: and expose a defense that's had some busted coverages and

1141
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: not much of a pass rush, you know it's gonna

1142
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: be Ryan Fitzpatrick, not Bryce Petty. Probably well, I just

1143
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: feel like we haven't seen enough to really be passing

1144
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: judgment on Bryce Petty. And I'm Petty at home against

1145
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: the flawed Patriots defense in a good setting. I feel

1146
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: like they're missing an opportunity here. I see both of

1147
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: your arguments. Actually too. But I think that there's always

1148
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: a divide between the way that analysts and particularly in

1149
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: this case, Jets fans would think and a coaching staff

1150
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: that whether they're not thinking about their future right now,

1151
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: they their job is to go out and win every week.

1152
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: And they've come to the conclusion this week that Ryan

1153
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick gives you a better chance against the best team

1154
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: in the league. That is thinking about his future. He's

1155
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: worried about his future. He's also thinking about it. He's

1156
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: also thinking about his locker room filled with veterans. Don't

1157
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: want an inept quarterback. These guys are paid, which has

1158
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: been Patrick. This Patrick is not inept. He's just had

1159
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: a bad season. Bryce Petty is inept. I think back

1160
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: to the start of that game, though, and it's kind

1161
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: of it's sad, a little to think about. They paned

1162
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: to the crowd when Petty started, and they showed a

1163
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: couple of Jets fan and they were recording the moment

1164
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: on their phone like that. That's the start of the

1165
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: breasts the Jet thinking. Jets fans, you're thinking, you watched

1166
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty play. You look at the offense they ran,

1167
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: think clearly not. I hope this fourth round pick can

1168
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: become our quarterback, but think clearly about what he did

1169
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: in that game. Some would say that clear thinking. He's

1170
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: not making a rash decision on a quarterback based on

1171
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: four quarters. That's what I mean. I think you could

1172
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: have a clear thinking opinion as a Jets fan wanting

1173
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 1: to see more of this guy. I think I think

1174
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: that at three and seven, what what do you have

1175
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: to lose besides more games? I mean, how do we

1176
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 1: go from begging from our respect for Ryan's Pitt Fitzpatrick

1177
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: all off season and throughout the early part of the

1178
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: season to like Bryce Petty is a better option than him.

1179
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't get that three and seven, it's over. I mean,

1180
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: I think also the whole situation with Fitzpatrick is there's

1181
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: no future at this point. And you're you're saying turned

1182
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 1: the As a fan, you're saying turn the page. I

1183
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: I am. I'm saying turn the page. This is there's

1184
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: nothing to be gained with there's something to the rivalry

1185
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: here that it's a division game and it's their biggest rival,

1186
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: and it's it's a home game, and this is their

1187
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: super Bowl. They're not gonna have any good moments this

1188
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: year in particular. But if they somehow beat the Patriots,

1189
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: which you know, I could you could almost see happening

1190
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: at the right, that's only won three of the least

1191
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: seven games, right, you could almost see happening. I think

1192
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense will eventually figure it out. But right now,

1193
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: last week they basically benched a land In Roberts, who

1194
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: is the guy I was talking up as the Jamie

1195
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: Collins replacement. They put in Shane McClellan. They've got Kyle

1196
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: van noy Uh rushing the passer as their outside linebacker,

1197
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: actually had a decent game. It's these guys that are

1198
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: rejects from the NFC North that the Lions and Bears

1199
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: didn't want. Alan Branch has been solid for them, is

1200
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: facing the suspension, So there there's a lot they're just

1201
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. I wouldn't be I kind of

1202
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: expect they will figure it out, but they haven't yet.

1203
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: And so that's why plan to slowly dissemble the Patriots

1204
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: into a trash roster and then hand the team over

1205
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: to McDaniels, who will struggle making Belichick. Look, they've had

1206
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 1: some bad defenses. I mean, think about the the team

1207
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: that went to the Super Bowl and loss of the

1208
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: Giants the second time. That defense was terrible, um talent

1209
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: wise and just how it was playing. So sometimes it

1210
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: takes them a little while. Though. There are different vels

1211
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: of terrible. But yes, five week, ye, not one of

1212
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: them came from an edge rusher. Let's move on and

1213
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: talk about the Carolina Panthers at four and six, forked

1214
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 1: by the Fourth Committee on Tuesday. Correct, did we did?

1215
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: We did? We did? We did? For uh? They now

1216
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: travel to Oakland to face the Raiders on a short week.

1217
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: The Raiders are not just on a short week, um

1218
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. They are also playing in Mexico City, where

1219
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: it was a draining game where they were you know,

1220
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 1: on the field and the high altitude. That was a

1221
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: tough game that they pulled out. And now they have

1222
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: a wounded Panther game here. I could I could see

1223
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: what I guess you would call an upset with the

1224
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: Panthers getting the win. Do you see it that way

1225
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: at all? Absolutely not. I don't care where the Raiders

1226
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: played last week. They're gonna win this game. And that's

1227
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: why it's my whoa lock it up? Snuck that one

1228
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: up on us. I think that everything that we could

1229
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: have looked at last year with the Panthers, everything was

1230
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: flying your fourteen and no, you've got your dancing, your dabbing,

1231
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: you're doing all your funny stuff. All the millennials love you.

1232
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: It's all all going to the Raiders. Now. The Raiders

1233
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: are that team that has this inexplicable positive energy throwing

1234
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: flowing through it. And it's also You've got a lot

1235
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,479
Speaker 1: of talent. You've got one of the best offensive lines

1236
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: in the league that can help neutralize what's been a

1237
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: good pass rush for the Panthers. And I think Oakland

1238
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: in at home takes this game and allows us to

1239
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: finally we've we've done this officially at last, but enough

1240
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: with this idea that the Panthers are gonna climb back

1241
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and win anything. They're not. They're not

1242
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: that team right now. They're good defense, and the they're

1243
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: they've been a consistent defense, and they're They're gonna miss

1244
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: Luke kick Ley a lot, assuming he doesn't return for

1245
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: this game, which I think is a safe assumption. Mario

1246
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: Addison has been their best pass rusher. I don't know

1247
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: if he's going to be available for this game, but

1248
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: the defense has been good enough to keep them in

1249
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: this game. They still have Cam Newton in a good defense.

1250
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: I kind of expect these Raiders games to come down

1251
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: to the end at this point, because most of them do,

1252
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: and I think that's fair to expect. I don't think

1253
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you can compare their records, I don't think

1254
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: they're that much better than the Panthers. And I know

1255
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: that's like a thing that Mark doesn't like because the

1256
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: Panthers aren't very good, and we keep making excuses for him.

1257
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't surprise me at all they beat the

1258
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: Raiders in this game. I don't I don't think that's

1259
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: unfair to say that there isn't that much difference. But

1260
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: I think there's something that we can't beyond the numbers

1261
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And it's a hazy argument, but

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Speaker 1: it's like the Raiders are just kind of rolling. They're

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Speaker 1: playing with extreme confidence, and I think very night sure.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, if you look at some of

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01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: these teams when they go from being a losing team

1266
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: to suddenly pulling off a twelve and four type of year,

1267
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: this goes back to teams I followed in the eighties

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01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: where you go from like this midway junk squad to

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: a sudden playoff type deal that you win some of

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: these games along the way. And they're also they have

1271
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 1: one of the coaching staffs that isn't afraid to roll

1272
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: the dice and go for it some of their wins

1273
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: or because they are more but daring group than others.

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01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: I understand, like a lot of teams end up twelve

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01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: and four like they roll, but a lot of teams

1276
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: that end up nine and seven are eight and two

1277
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: at one point. And they've outplayed They've gotten lucky over

1278
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: in this season. That luck evens out the Panthers, though

1279
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: after that game, with the injuries, it felt like a

1280
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 1: dead team and they have found ways to lose games.

1281
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: And even though they beat the Saints, if that game

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01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: was three minutes longer, they would have found a way

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01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: to lose that one too. They were holding on for

1284
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: dear life, playing with a little bit of lemon booty there.

1285
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: They they've kind of lost their lemon booty. People know that,

1286
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: what does the old people? You know, people on the internet,

1287
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: the old, the old, you know what, just closing up

1288
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, closing up a little bit lemon booty,

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: that's new. I've never heard that. Oh oh, it's a

1290
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: buttole reference. Hey, here's why, um, we should feel good

1291
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: about forking the Panthers. UM the remaining strength of schedule

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01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 1: toughest in the league. Or their final six games are

1293
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: on the ode um and uh, four of their final

1294
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: six opponents have a winning record Oakland, Seattle, Washington, and Atlanta.

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01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: So you know when you start one in five, there's

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: a reason why those two. Let's move on the Kansas

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01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 1: City Chiefs seven and three, fresh off a really uh

1298
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: surprising loss at home to the Tampa Bay Bucks. Uh.

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: That could really hurt now because now they go to

1300
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: Denver to face the Broncos and their Broncos are well

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: rested coming off of by and this is a battle

1302
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: that UM, the loser this game may not have a

1303
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: chance in the division with the Raiders at eight and two. Uh,

1304
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: the loser would fall to seven and four and they

1305
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: they would be behind two teams. So what happens here?

1306
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: Greg Rosental I don't have a strong feeling, but the

1307
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs need to play better on defense. This needs to

1308
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 1: be a defense first team and there they couldn't get

1309
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 1: off the field last week. D Ford was not at

1310
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,959
Speaker 1: practice Wednesday, that's a huge loss. Uh. They've been getting

1311
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: some good contributions from their rookie Chris Jones. I think

1312
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: this Broncos offensive line has been so bad that almost

1313
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: every defense should look good against them. And and that's

1314
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: the type of game Kansas City needs to win here.

1315
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: I want to see the Chiefs that I expected, haven't

1316
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: really seen it for three or four weeks. I get

1317
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: that their defense didn't play well, they had entries. Marcus Peters,

1318
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,479
Speaker 1: who was so important to their team, did not play.

1319
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like he'll be back to which Their offense

1320
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: has been more of a problem lately, without Jeremy mcklen

1321
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: and with Alex Smith playing as poorly as as he

1322
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: has all year. I think it's the offense that has

1323
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: been more of the problem in Kansas City. Watch out

1324
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: if Kansas City can't win this game, because that would

1325
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: be a two game losing streak in their next two

1326
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: games at Atlanta and then home to the home to

1327
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: the Raiders on a short week on Thursday night, and

1328
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: then home with Titans and then home to Broncos. That's

1329
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: a tough remaining schedule. They are not both you guys

1330
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: are right, I mean, in that Bucks game, the Bucks

1331
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: kept converting third down the sixteen, and they kept the

1332
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: dry long over and over, and the offense, I mean

1333
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: they're statistically it's it's eighty fewer yards per game over

1334
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: the last three. Spencerware, who is so important to that

1335
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: ground game, has not been the same since he had

1336
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: the concussion, and they're missing guys. And I love Tyreek Hill.

1337
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: He's he's an interesting player to watch and he's becoming

1338
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: more of a core component every week. They move them

1339
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: all over the place. They're even use them in the

1340
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: backfield and stuff. But it just feels like an offense

1341
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: that you're not sure where you're gonna get production from

1342
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: week to week. With guys like Macklin, right, I get

1343
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 1: that they're smart, they don't have a lot of penalties,

1344
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: and you have a turnover margin and you're well coached,

1345
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: and I think yards are overrated, but at a certain

1346
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: point you're twenty four in the league and offense and

1347
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: twenty five and defense, and so it's hard. It's hard

1348
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: to like keep doing that week after week and be

1349
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 1: a seven and three type of team. I think Alex

1350
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: Smith actually was better last week for the most part.

1351
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: He had that one bad mistake and otherwise it was

1352
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: it was kind of an Alex Smith type of game.

1353
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Maybe he can build off. Is this an another seven

1354
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: win team that we don't quite believe in. They need

1355
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: to be healthy for me to believe in them. I

1356
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: with without Jeremy Macklin, I don't believe in that offense certainly,

1357
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 1: and without d Ford and if we we have to

1358
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: see what justin Houston is still if they're not healthy,

1359
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe it right now that I've thought it through.

1360
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: We should pick this game by there because this feels

1361
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: like a top big game. By the way, this is

1362
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game flex the Jets and Pets flexed out. Yeah,

1363
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: rightfully so uh Broncos chiefs unneathball, Mike Rico. I trust

1364
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: the Broncos defense. To me, that's the thing that's in

1365
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: this game that I believe in. They had everyone at

1366
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: their practice coming out of the by They are a

1367
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: healthy team right now, and I think at home, I

1368
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: think you're gonna start to see the Broncos with with

1369
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a push and look better.

1370
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: Even though they're seven and three, they'll look better. A

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01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: word about their offense, I don't know if they can

1372
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: get a running game going with C J. Anderson out

1373
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 1: and Trevor Simeon isn't gonna win ball games. But I

1374
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: don't know, feel like the Chiefs. This could be a

1375
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: slide beginning now. And I like the Denver Broncos here.

1376
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: I trust the Broncos and I trust Trevor Simeon more

1377
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: than most people do. Gary Kubiak said today They're gonna

1378
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: keep putting more on Trevor simeons play as the season

1379
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: goes along, and he's going to have more responsibility down

1380
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: the stretch, and he's had all years. They're gonna have

1381
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: to write, gonna have to hope that he can progress.

1382
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: I think the Kubiak has done a really incredible job

1383
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,839
Speaker 1: with quarterback playing quarterback transition in a really interesting situation.

1384
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Over the past two seasons. Simeon and Lynch are generating

1385
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: more points than Manning and Oswala did last year. I

1386
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: do I trust at home in a primetime spot Denver

1387
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: and Denver's defense that secondary, please, I mean, where is

1388
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City gonna find its way on offense in this game?

1389
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm going Denver. I just look at the organization almost

1390
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 1: deserves credit, and I think it can carry you through

1391
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: seasons like this. Did their win totals over the last

1392
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: four years, it's almost under the radar thirteen team twelve twelve.

1393
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 1: So you know, the Seahawks get a lot of credit

1394
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: for being at the very very top of the league.

1395
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: The Broncos have been right there with the Patriots and

1396
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: the Seahawks for the last four years, so I kind

1397
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: of just expected to keep happening. And they're the team

1398
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 1: that's knocked New England out of the playoffs multiple times.

1399
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 1: John Elway He's done this his whole career. There's certain

1400
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: teams that are right there with him. He knows he

1401
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: gets their number as a player. Now is a GM alright.

1402
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Just takes us to Monday night football, to struggling teams

1403
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: that really need to win in a bad way. I

1404
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: would go as far as to say the loser's game,

1405
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: but you know, might just have to shut it down.

1406
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 1: Loser disappointed four and six Packers who have lost four straight.

1407
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: Um and are did we forked the Packers yesterday? I

1408
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: have the show yesterday. I don't remember, um and they

1409
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: what happened to? When you have a second child, you're

1410
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: not gonna remember anything. The Eagles, who were once upon

1411
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: a time the talk of the NFL. Or have lost

1412
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: three or four there now five and five. So both

1413
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: these teams need to win in the worst way. Only

1414
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: one will get it at Chris Westling, do you count

1415
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers the show the Packers the way in

1416
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: prime time against the NFL's best home defense this season,

1417
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: averging nine point five points allowed in Philadelphia. That is

1418
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 1: a tall order, especially considering they've played at Land in Pittsburgh.

1419
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: Exactly if you are in you know, if you want

1420
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: to get a leg up on your buddies and your

1421
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: player of the week pool, because I know you all

1422
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: have them, yeah, pool player of the week Carson Wentz.

1423
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, the Packers defense has made Mariota

1424
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: the player of the week. They've made Kirk Cousins the

1425
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: player of the week. Carson Wentz is the next guy

1426
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: up here, big big chance for everybody in your power leagues.

1427
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: Power leagues. So I can't even get involved in those leagues.

1428
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: I get too the most hmpassed by it. I get

1429
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: too competitive. I had to step out of that. Uh

1430
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: my first marriage, of course, I means are plenty. I'm

1431
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: gonna retire after picking a guayo before last week as

1432
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: Special Teams Player of the Week. No one saw that coming,

1433
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: did you? Did you put that on Twitter on Saturday?

1434
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: I hope not barely exists. I wouldn't count then, I wouldn't.

1435
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mention it. Um This Packers defense over the

1436
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: last four games. We've mentioned this on Sunday Night is

1437
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: you've got to go back to nineteen fifty one for

1438
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: four game stretch where they've been as bad as they

1439
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: are in terms of giving up points. And then you've

1440
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 1: got Wentz who's thrown four touchdowns since Week five. But

1441
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: I agree with Wes. I mean, you've got issues with

1442
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: your with your backfield in Philadelphia. We need to see

1443
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: what happens over the next couple of days. Sprowles Matthews

1444
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 1: both didn't practice on Wednesday. But come on, this is

1445
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: a home game. Yes, let's attack. I think they've actually

1446
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: let Wentz attack a little bit more. They don't really

1447
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: have a downfield receiver. I mean they got Nelson Aguilar's

1448
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, seeing a sports psychologists say talking about this week,

1449
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: and then he's not meeting with the meeting. They don't

1450
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: have anyone to throw too. But I want them to

1451
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: be aggressive. I think they're trying to put a little

1452
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: more on went they can run the ball. I think

1453
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 1: the Eagles have a sneaky could be a good running game,

1454
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: Like they should put up points in this game. What

1455
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 1: is going on with the sports psychologist? They should have

1456
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: Nelson aghil or meet with Steve Smith. I got yeah.

1457
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know, the mental the mind, the

1458
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: mind's eye. It's a very complicated thing. But what is

1459
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: it like twenty three and probably someone a coach, a

1460
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: position coach, probably said go do this, and so you say, yes, okay,

1461
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: but what happens in these meetings you will catch them? Well,

1462
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: I I haven't had an athletics career since like seventh grade,

1463
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: so I don't know what happens in those meeting in

1464
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 1: junior high? Did they have sports Like I'm just saying

1465
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: it was not even in the realm. It's like Stewart

1466
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: Smalley talking to Michael Jordan's. Yeah, I'm trying to say,

1467
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: like I don't I'm trying to be sensitive, but it

1468
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,680
Speaker 1: just all seems a little ridiculous. This is it's a

1469
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: it's a tough matchup for Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense.

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: But I think if if you squit a little bit.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 1: Can kind of see this Packers offense coming together the

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: last few weeks. I know they start every game slow,

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01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: which is a problem that their scripted plays. Their first

1474
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: quarter of the last three games has been really bad.

1475
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: But I think Rogers has played pretty well the last

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01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 1: few weeks. I think Cobb made a few plays last week.

1477
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 1: Cook kind of finally got off the Schneide. Adams has

1478
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: been fantastic. I don't think the offense, you know, is

1479
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: too far away if the defense could catch up. Pick

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01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:28,560
Speaker 1: the game, Mark Eagles West and do you have a

1481
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: point against all logic, I'm going Packers. I don't know

1482
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: why Uh Kristy Michael is going to play this week.

1483
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: He didn't know the offense last week, but Mike Rothy

1484
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: has said he's going to be in the mix this week.

1485
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 1: Doesn't read the playbook anyway though, So yeah, he's a

1486
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: running back. What does he need to know? Uh? Geez.

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: This is the hardest game for me to pick because

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: I could totally see laying an egg here. I mean

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01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: the Packers laying an egg on the road, and yet

1490
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 1: like West, I feel like they might have one more

1491
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: victory and them, I'll go with the Packers is more

1492
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 1: death spasm. I never pick against the Eagles. It's just

1493
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: basically been a stupid policy. There's ever been a smart

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: move in the history of picks in the NFL. Never

1495
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: go against I mean, it feels like I have in

1496
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: this year, doesn't I'm definitely not doing it at home

1497
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: against the Packers taking the Eagle. What is with the

1498
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: league's uh decision? And they love to do this putting

1499
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: teams on two weeks in a row in prime time?

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01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 1: Do we really need to see Green Bay again on

1501
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: prime time after we were just been through. I don't

1502
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 1: mind the Packers. Yeah, I don't know, but kind of

1503
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: interesting falling apart, they're almost a little more interesting with

1504
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: the world burning around them. That's like cranky and things

1505
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: are happening. Packers fans are some of the nicest people,

1506
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: but that you can't ask like the world is burning

1507
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: around Packers fans. They've had nothing but stellar quarterback play

1508
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: going back to the early nineties. That's part of it.

1509
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: Things are crumbling. The franchise is at a crossroads. All

1510
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna finish like eight and eight or nine and

1511
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: set in and everything is gonna be just fine in

1512
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: the end. And they'll get another six prime time games

1513
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,839
Speaker 1: next year. Um, Dan, do you remember the William Goldman

1514
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 1: Mike Lupeka book which next year, And William Goldman talks

1515
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: about Dwight Gooden, how he's on top of the world

1516
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five. You've never seen a better twenty

1517
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: year old picture in the history of baseball. It's like

1518
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in two thousand fourteen, nineteen seven. Dwight Goodman's

1519
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 1: about seventy, or Dwight Goods about seventy as good as

1520
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: he was, but he's not transcendent anymore. And you talk

1521
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: yourself into all these excuses, but deep down and your

1522
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, you know you're never gonna see the

1523
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: Dwight Gooden was. Well, I don't feel like you we

1524
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: were all making excuses for Aaron. You were gonna go

1525
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: and and and equivocate that somehow Aaron Rodgers is a

1526
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: cocaine addict. But no, I'm saying that history tells us

1527
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: we're probably never gonna see Aaron Rodgers to the high seat,

1528
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: and even if he never does, he'll be a Hall

1529
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: of Famer, no doubt about it. Two thousand fourteen, Aaron

1530
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers is more interesting than falling apart. I I hear you,

1531
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: but I I don't buy that we won't see him

1532
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: at the top again. I think he's too good. I

1533
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: think it might take a new coach. But I think

1534
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: he's too good and he's still too young to we

1535
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: would see him at a high We were calling him

1536
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: the best quarterback we've ever seen in two thou fourteen.

1537
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't history says that probably won't happen again. It

1538
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: feels like a long time ago. We're saying September, Yes,

1539
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 1: we were. I agree. Anyway, check out the Dave Damage

1540
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: checked Football program where the pie off five went down.

1541
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,560
Speaker 1: And if you're tracking this at all, you might know

1542
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: that the old Zeuser and Hands His Corp won our

1543
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: third title in four years. Dynasty. Have any type of

1544
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: applause or anything that's good, I'll take that. Are you

1545
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: like Alexander the Great now when he took over the world,

1546
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: he sat on the mountainside and cried because he had

1547
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: nothing left to conquer? Well, actually, and and Bay, it's

1548
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: my mother in law announced on the podcast she's retiring

1549
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Hands his Corps, shutting down nothing else to prove Now,

1550
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: I think next year you should have to make the

1551
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: pie and let's see what how that happens? What do

1552
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: I gain? Nothing? And I can't make, I can't bake.

1553
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: Do you know who is really insulted by this whole thing?

1554
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: Tara Deaker. She is miserable. She encountered us in the

1555
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: makeup room and she was she was flying off the

1556
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: handle on the show. I implore everyone to listen to it.

1557
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 1: It was. It was fun to hear a woman breaking

1558
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: down with a microphone in front of her face. Always fun. Uh.

1559
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Sunday recapping all the games that

1560
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: we just previewed, So make sure you come back, uh

1561
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 1: and do that. Thank you again everyone, Sydney. One last

1562
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: word to the audience. Yeah, just the website. There's like

1563
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: seven windows of the Bahamas Hotel, Alibu Beach House, a

1564
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: Dublin castle. She's trying to maybe buy it with cash.

1565
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: I am honestly like speechless about the whole thing, and

1566
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: I'm not very good at like expressing those feelings. But um, yeah,

1567
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean with what great listeners we have, Well, the

1568
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: listeners gave a gift to a worthy person. I'd say

1569
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: we've had We've had some We've been attached to some people.

1570
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: You know in the building that wouldn't deserve that gift.

1571
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: She does. Yeah for sure. Um okay, let's get out

1572
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: of here. Great job listeners, Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. This

1573
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 1: is Dan hands As signing off for the Quiet Storm. Mark.

1574
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: Sorry that we picked the Browns this week. That's overblown.

1575
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm not upset. The man the boss and I said

1576
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: buying the glass the Sunday and now a word from

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Speaker 1: our sponsor. On the day before Thanksgiving, we give thanks

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01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 1: after university, spent six plus years toiling behind the scenes

1580
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Speaker 1: of the Dutch Treasury in the Hague the Netherlands. Tired

1581
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: of being tempered in a white, male dominated milieu. Me's

1582
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: made waves in two thousand six as a fledgling opinion writer,

1583
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:20,520
Speaker 1: authoring a killer dissertation on Shanghai's influence over Western based economies,

1584
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: before unleashing a rash of white hot essays on the

1585
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: rise of the female workforce, most notably a piece entitled

1586
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Speaker 1: No More Part Time Feminism and Examination on women ambition

1587
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: and career in a post Margaret Thatcher universe. Me's never

1588
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: lost her passion for economics, though, turning heads in November

1589
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 1: with an unhinged editorial for the Daily Hague in which

1590
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: she asked openly about the future cost of today's students,

1591
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: ignoring the study of economics in quotes. If only the

1592
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 1: Hague had a hero, she wrote, someone who cared enough

1593
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: about our youth to teach pivotal lessons on supply and

1594
01:21:57,520 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: demand chains and the influence of Red China on Western

1595
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: economic thought. If only there was a figure brave enough

1596
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 1: to give his life for the students of our country.

1597
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: Where is that person? Will he ever rise and shine?

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