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Speaker 1: Welcome back into the NFL Report Week nine, well almost

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Speaker 1: in the books. We have a Monday nighter James Palmer,

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Speaker 1: Steve Witch with you. As always, we have a bunch

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Speaker 1: of guests on this show. Former Stanford head coach David

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Speaker 1: Shaw breaking down Josh Dobbs and CJ. Stroud's performances. Mike

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Speaker 1: Garrifolo was at that screamer between the Cowboys and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Steve also, Cameron Wolf is gonna be breaking down what's

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Speaker 1: happening in Miami which essentially started over in Frankfurt. What's

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Speaker 1: going on with the Dolphins? Oh yeah? And Jeff Chadeah

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Speaker 1: in his first read column. We break it down. Every Monday,

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Speaker 1: we have a monster slate, just like we saw on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Steve four windows of games. On Sunday we went through.

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Speaker 2: JP like who is feeling better right now?

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Speaker 3: Like the Raiders? Could it be Keaton Mitchell, the running

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Speaker 3: back for the Ravens who dominated. You know who's feeling

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Speaker 3: better than anyone besides you and me? Of course, that

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Speaker 3: is Houston Texas fourth stream running back Ogan Bewalle, who

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Speaker 3: didn't get a carry in their victory, but he kicked

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Speaker 3: a field goal with their regular kicker Kayami fear Baron

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Speaker 3: got hurt. He came in and kicked a field goal.

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Speaker 3: Not though this isn't why he's feeling great. He's feeling

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Speaker 3: great because he finally out shown his sister Arique, who

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Speaker 3: was a three time Dultiba All Star. She was the

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Speaker 3: MVP of Notre Dame's twenty eighteen National championship basketball team.

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Speaker 2: So for a moment, JP Dary got a little bit

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Speaker 2: of the shot.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. He's a great dude too, by the way, bounce

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Speaker 1: around this league, and it was an awesome, awesome showing

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Speaker 1: to see him go out there be a big part

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Speaker 1: of this when he kicked off too, which was incredible.

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Speaker 1: But Sunday kicked off the entire day in Frankfurt, Germany,

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Speaker 1: where we saw the Kansas City chief Steve take down

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Speaker 1: to Miami Dolphins in the biggest game we were looking

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Speaker 1: forward to maybe all weekend, maybe all season, and it

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Speaker 1: was Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs that came away with

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Speaker 1: a victory in frank Roll that tape of Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and Stacy Dale's I'll see Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback Patrick Mahomes, you've listened to this crowd your first

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Speaker 4: time in Germany.

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Speaker 1: You're a guy who has made a lot of history.

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Speaker 1: What does this mean listening to these guys?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the heck of experience. The fans were amazing,

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Speaker 5: the atmosphere was awesome, and it was a great football game,

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Speaker 5: and I'm glad we came out to win.

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Speaker 4: We couldn't have imagined your defense is gonna save the day, right,

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Speaker 4: you always seem to do it. What's going through your

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Speaker 4: mind when that happens down the stretch?

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Speaker 1: I mean I could imagine it.

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Speaker 5: They've done it for us all year long, and people

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Speaker 5: are gonna recognize soon enough. We're gonna keep kind of

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Speaker 5: working this offense figured out. But until then, this defense

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Speaker 5: is legit. It's real and everybody's gonna see it, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Steve. You heard Patrick Mahomes say it right there,

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Speaker 1: and you saw in the graphic anybody listening at home

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Speaker 1: now watching this is the fewest points per game in

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Speaker 1: the Patrick Mahomes era. They're scoring on the offensive side

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Speaker 1: of the wall. But he mentioned it right there. This

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Speaker 1: defense playing like one of the best units in football.

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Speaker 1: So it's a Monday. Let's do bigger news, Steve, bigger news.

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Speaker 1: This Chief's offense struggling for a couple weeks now or

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Speaker 1: this Kansas City Chiefs defense just on fire.

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Speaker 3: It's their defense. The bigger news is the Chiefs defense JP.

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Speaker 2: And here's why. What are we talking about.

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Speaker 3: The storyline for the first half of the NFL season

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Speaker 3: has been defense across the NFL. We can talk about

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Speaker 3: the struggling offenses, but let's give some credit to the

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Speaker 3: defenses four or five years ago. It's offense. It's offense.

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Speaker 3: What happens in the NFL, the other side of the

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Speaker 3: ball eventually catches up. And I think that's what's happening now,

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Speaker 3: especially in Kansas City. We're seeing their defensive front. What

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Speaker 3: they did to Miami. They were dialing up five, six, seven.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: Look at the blitz off the corner right here. They

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Speaker 3: were super super physical. They weren't letting Tyreek Hill off

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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. They were very aggressive, very attacking.

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Speaker 3: They hit Miami in a mouth. But they've been doing

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Speaker 3: this to everybody all season. So right now, JP, it

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Speaker 3: is their defense allowing fifteen point eight eight points per game. Hey,

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Speaker 3: all you need to do is score sixteen. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. What this defense has done, specifically in

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Speaker 1: ironically enough, stripping Tyreek Hill because remember they used one

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Speaker 1: of the picks that they got in the Tyrek Hill

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Speaker 1: so they can hide a lot of things that Spags

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Speaker 1: Sa Watson come as well. But to me, it is

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Speaker 1: the offense which is a bigger deal for me because

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Speaker 1: we have now seen six games this season that this

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Speaker 1: which is wild in a sense. I look at them

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Speaker 1: in the last two weeks, Steve, they have not scored

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Speaker 1: in the second half in each of the last time

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Speaker 1: those centering at the trade deadline, that makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: We were wondering at the trade deadline, whether they were

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Speaker 1: whole lot of calls. They were not active. They do

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Speaker 1: think they're going to get out of this, maybe like

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Speaker 1: they did in the past, with the way their defense

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Speaker 1: has played better as the year goes on. But to me,

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Speaker 1: Somebody else has to step up. There's been no consistency

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Speaker 1: wanted him to be their number one receiving option. They

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Speaker 1: It just hasn't happened. I don't even think he's in

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Speaker 1: I believe he has twenty catches for one hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty seven yards. What I do think will help them

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Speaker 1: steve They haven't really used Jeff McKinnon a whole lot

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Speaker 1: so far. I think he's going to be additioned to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been talking about that for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Jet McKinney coming in the back half of the season.

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Speaker 3: Andy Reid'll figure this out. But let's not forget and

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Speaker 3: that point told you that twenty four points are twenty

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Speaker 3: three points a game that the Chiefs are averaging, which

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Speaker 2: That also factors in defensive scores.

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Speaker 3: We just showed a highlight of the Chiefs getting a

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Speaker 3: in that game. So I'm with you. I do think

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Speaker 3: they'll figure it out. But is it going to be

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Speaker 3: this binanza and explosive offense we've seen. Possibly not, but

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Speaker 3: that's around the league, and we saw that with one

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Speaker 3: of the best teams in the AFC yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Oh but the other best team in the AFC lit

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Speaker 3: So to that point, bigger news JP that the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 3: whose offense you've been championing since Week one, blew out

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks in thirty seven to three. Or is it

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Speaker 3: that the Cincinnati Bengals won their fourth straight.

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Speaker 1: I love Cincinnati. I love with Joe Burrows during right now.

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Speaker 1: I think he's playing since Week five like the best

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Speaker 1: quarterback in football. But I'm going to say the bigger

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Speaker 1: news is the Baltimore Ravens because when you have a

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Speaker 1: player at quarterback that is also playing in an MVP

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Speaker 1: level in Lamar Jackson, you have a great coaching staff

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Speaker 1: then you have balance and depth. I think that makes

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Speaker 1: look at the depth that they've had, and one player

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Speaker 1: of the ball, and that is Geno Stone, the safety

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Speaker 1: in all of football, had the peck injury early now

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Speaker 1: has been battling a hamstring and what has Genostone done.

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Speaker 1: I just have six picks in nine games. I'm leading

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I just think the depth that they have,

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Speaker 1: specifically upfront getting after the quarterback. I'm going to talk

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Speaker 1: but they've been able to get after the quarterback. They've

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Speaker 1: been dominant in the trenches. And in this game, Steve,

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Speaker 1: they ran for two hundred and ninety eight yards against

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Speaker 1: the defense. We were really really talking a lot about

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Speaker 1: maybe certain games the defense has to carry him, maybe

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Speaker 1: certain games the offense has to carry him, that depth,

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Speaker 1: that balance stands out to me as this could be

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Speaker 1: the best team in football right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and week two the Ravens got the Bengals. They

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Speaker 3: meet again in two weeks. That's gonna be a class

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Speaker 3: because Joey Burrows there is playing better.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I love the Ravens too. I mean I can't.

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Speaker 3: I can't go against you on this because every aspect

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Speaker 2: And think about this, I mean they go you talk

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Speaker 3: They went to Keaton Mitchell nine carries one hundred and

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Speaker 3: right now. I mean they didn't have to Odell get

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Seahawks are not a bad team. So

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Speaker 3: this is no an all around complete team. That's not

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Speaker 3: to say styles make fights. I mean, and we think

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Speaker 3: that the Bengals, you know they're gonna be right there.

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Speaker 3: But JP, are we missing the bigger story here with

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Speaker 3: the victory last night Cincinnati as the Buffalo Bills at

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Speaker 3: this moment out of the playoffs. In all four teams

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Speaker 1: I think we are missing out. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: bigger deal right now, because I look at that game

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Speaker 1: last night between the Cincinnati Bengals and Buffalo Bills, and

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati gets out to a lead early. It's been the

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Speaker 1: recipe they've been using since really on this whole run right,

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Speaker 1: get out early, score early. They've done it last four weeks,

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Speaker 1: then create turnovers and let Joe Burrow close things out.

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Speaker 1: To me, Steve, why this should be maybe the biggest

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Speaker 1: deal we talk about is that we know Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: playing at a high level. Stefan Diggs is playing at

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Speaker 1: a high level. The offensive line is healthy and protecting

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. We know that Dawson Knox is out, but

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Speaker 1: Dalton Kinkaid the rookie has played well the titan last night,

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Speaker 1: but this Hey Dandy looks really good last night. But

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Speaker 1: for some reason, if you watch the postgame interviews and

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Speaker 1: listen to Josh Allen Sean McDermott, it's almost like Steve.

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Speaker 1: They're asked these questions about the offensive inconsistencies that they've

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Speaker 1: not really sure what's wrong, that might be a big deal.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: How did Cincinnati close out that game? Joe Mixon running

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Speaker 6: What an incredible win, What a what a incredible sense

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch

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Speaker 1: who was there yesterday for the twenty eight, twenty three

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Speaker 7: No, I mean it's nagging to him in that when

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Speaker 7: The touchdown to Devte Smith, which was in a perfect

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Speaker 8: The injury or the aggravation of.

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Speaker 1: The injury, I should say.

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Speaker 7: So, you know, look, if you're tough and you're not

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Speaker 1: Gonna let them see you.

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Speaker 7: I mean, clearly he's letting them see them hurt right there,

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Speaker 1: As much as possible.

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Speaker 7: Well, what comes with that is basically us saying, well,

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 7: But for Jalen Hurts to say yesterday that this bye

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Speaker 7: I think it's pretty clear that he is affected.

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Speaker 1: He is feeling it.

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Speaker 7: In a week off from football activities, which the Eagles

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Speaker 3: Yeah, him gutting it out. Guys, We've seen patrickal Holmes

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Speaker 3: you know, salute to him. One thing I want to

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Speaker 3: last night. I think both teams kind of expose who

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Speaker 3: The Philadelphia's got a two and a half game lead

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Speaker 7: My takeaway is they could have easily lost that game

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Speaker 7: get real. I mean, I saw people declare, this is

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Speaker 1: I don't see many losses for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Possibly they could be playing that game for first place

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Speaker 7: still open the Eagles. We came into the season, we

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Speaker 8: I know the offenses love to do that.

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Speaker 7: Those are the kind of things that they need to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to clean that up for really the

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Speaker 7: Giants, Well, they're clearly going to be in a position

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Speaker 7: Here's the difficult part for the Giants. We're not five

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Speaker 7: John Mara had that famous quote, We've done everything we

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Speaker 7: Offensive line is bagged up, nobody's performing, and now Daniel

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Speaker 1: But we got to move on.

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Speaker 7: I really feel like these are the conversations they're going

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Speaker 7: and they go, Okay, you know what, we're committed to

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Speaker 7: So let's give them one more year.

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Speaker 1: But we shall see if they're in the mix.

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Speaker 8: I think they clearly have some quarterbacks in there.

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Speaker 3: They will, whether's he whethers health issue, the neck now,

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Speaker 2: Mike Gee appreciates taking the.

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Speaker 3: Time ever to watch Mike Garra follow every day on

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Speaker 3: NFL appreciate you, Mike, well, also is another big game,

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Speaker 2: That's the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: They took a loss, and it continued a narrative that

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Speaker 9: Guys have heard of the narrative team versus that when

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Speaker 9: We was losing the quote unquote good teams a lot

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Speaker 10: We just kept working and we made it click.

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Speaker 9: And then stopping us from doing the same thing here

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Speaker 3: We're good, I said, was Dolphins cornerback Jalen Ramsey after

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Speaker 2: Now let's bring in our Cameron Wealth.

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Speaker 3: Now Cameron was not.

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Speaker 3: He lives down in South Florida. So Cam, you heard

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Speaker 11: I hear Jalen Ramsey. He doesn't want to hear it.

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Speaker 11: The Dolphins don't want to hear it, a lot of

438
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Speaker 11: fans don't want to hear it. But the reality is,

439
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Speaker 11: and the facts are, they're zero to three this season

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Speaker 11: against teams with the winning record. They've lost six straight

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Speaker 11: games dating back to last year against teams with a

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Speaker 11: winning record. Only the Bears have lost more in that span.

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Speaker 11: And so that's just what the numbers tell you. They're

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Speaker 11: going to have more opportunities later in the season. They

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Speaker 11: play the Jets on the road, they play the Ravens

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Speaker 11: on the road, they play the Bills and the Cowboys

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Speaker 11: at home. But right now, that is the only question

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Speaker 11: about this team. When they face these.

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Speaker 8: Elite teams, can they.

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Speaker 11: Do what they do against the quote unquote struggling teams,

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Speaker 11: And so far we haven't seen that evidence, and I'll

452
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Speaker 11: tell you what the narrative is. What the narrative is,

453
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Speaker 11: It's going to be a lot of talk on sports

454
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Speaker 11: shows about them being pretenders or frauds. I wouldn't go

455
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Speaker 11: that far, but I will tell you it's something they

456
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Speaker 11: discussed in the locker room. I talked to Dolphins corner

457
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Speaker 11: cater go who a few weeks ago, and he mentioned

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Speaker 11: he couldn't take true satisfaction on their defensive performance against

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Speaker 11: the Giants because it wasn't against a quote unquote good team.

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Speaker 11: Yet he said, I want to do it against a

461
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Speaker 11: good team and beat that team for us to really

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Speaker 11: feel good.

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Speaker 8: About where they are. So this is not just a

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Speaker 8: media narrative.

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Speaker 11: Part of this is you want to see yourself beat

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Speaker 11: these good teams for your own internal confidences.

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Speaker 8: So I get what Jayalen Ramsey's saying.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't eliminate them, And trust me, I am not

469
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Speaker 11: worried about them being a playoff team a contender in

470
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Speaker 11: the end, but eventually they're gonna have to beat these

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Speaker 11: good teams be treated like a great one.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny cam when we're just talking to Mike

473
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Speaker 1: Carrifolo right before you it sounds and looks like a

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Speaker 1: team like Philadelphia. Even when they have Dak Prescott staring

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Speaker 1: down the the goal line in the end zone, there's

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Speaker 1: no panic in Philadelphia. It seems like, right they just

477
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Speaker 1: have a feeling that they're going to win these big

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Speaker 1: games against big teams, and you want that feeling in

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Speaker 1: your locker room. The Dolphins are in essence chasing that.

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Speaker 1: What I'm curious about, and we've mentioned this on the

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Speaker 1: show a couple of times, I think with you Cam

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Speaker 1: about kind of the physicality or lack of physicality with

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Speaker 1: kind of the look of this offense, the look of

484
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Speaker 1: the way this team is built. To me, what stands

485
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Speaker 1: out as well is with that is the struggles on

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Speaker 1: third down. They go three for twelve in this game,

487
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Speaker 1: went four for eleven against the Eagles, three for ten

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Speaker 1: against the Bills on third down. To me, that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a physicality on what first and second down?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 1: Can they play the style of ability that you maybe

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Speaker 1: you want to down the stretch in December when we're

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Speaker 1: talking about physicality, so great question. JP.

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Speaker 11: The common denominator in their three losses have been they

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Speaker 11: faced teams that had a very strong defensive line, the Bills,

496
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Speaker 11: the Eagles, and now the Chiefs, and they really punched

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Speaker 11: them in the mouth. You're looking at this highlight here

498
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Speaker 11: where Tyreek Hill gets stripped by Trim McDuffie, and it

499
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Speaker 11: was so interesting because Trim McDuffie is a doll.

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Speaker 8: And he's a dog in the slot.

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Speaker 11: And when you have that slot player that can follow

502
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Speaker 11: Tyreek Hill and get hands on him within five yards

503
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Speaker 11: disrupt the timing.

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Speaker 8: Tyreek Hill talked about it after the game.

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Speaker 11: He had a great game plan for me, and that

506
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Speaker 11: game plan was to get hands on him, disrupt his timing.

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Speaker 11: Tua's time to throw, which he's been in the best

508
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Speaker 11: in the league with with one of the highest of

509
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Speaker 11: the season, which means he had to hesitate, he had

510
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Speaker 11: to go to his second read, his third read, and

511
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Speaker 11: that gives Chris Jones and those boys inside time to

512
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Speaker 11: get home for their front four. And so that's gonna

513
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Speaker 11: be a growing trend for teams who have the talent

514
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Speaker 11: on the defensive line but also that cornerback ability. Say

515
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Speaker 11: we're gonna play press coverage, we're gonna take our chances,

516
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Speaker 11: and we're gonna get home and we're gonna prove this

517
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Speaker 11: into the Dolphin Show, they can stop it, and so

518
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Speaker 11: it's definitely something whereas we get into November, we get

519
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Speaker 11: into December, Dolphins are gonna have to end your forward

520
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Speaker 11: and Mike McDaniel is gonna have to use this bye

521
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Speaker 11: week to figure out some adjustment.

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Speaker 1: Incredible, incredible, It's one of our favorite offenses to watch, right, guys.

523
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, there's still little things in there.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing defenses doing, putting them in a little bit

525
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Speaker 1: of a difficult bind at time, specifically when Tua has

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Speaker 1: to hold on to the football. Can appreciate it. Man

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Speaker 1: can't wait to have you on next week again because

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Speaker 1: he's one of our favorite guests, Sidny Steve. But you

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Speaker 1: know who's also one of our favorite guests. Former Stanford

530
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Speaker 1: head coach, You got a camp David Shaw who recruited

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Speaker 1: and wanted Josh Dobbs to play for him. Dobbs had

532
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Speaker 1: one of the most crazy weekends of the that we had,

533
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Speaker 1: and as well as CJ. Stroud breaking rookie records, David

534
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Speaker 1: Shaw's gonna talk about both quarterbacks next on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 12: It's like if you were taking Spanish all year and

536
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Speaker 12: you showed up and Wednesday someone told you you got

537
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Speaker 12: you're taking AP Spanish, and so until you have that

538
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Speaker 12: AP French exam on Sunday, and you.

539
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Speaker 1: Gotta go like execute.

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Speaker 12: You know, someone's gonna talk to you in Spanish and

541
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Speaker 12: translate it to the French. So that's kind of like

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Speaker 12: what was going on out there.

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Speaker 1: It was, it was, it was.

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Speaker 12: There was a lot of communication. But I'm able to

545
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Speaker 12: process a lot of information and be able to react

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Speaker 12: on it and out let it handcap handcuff myself and

547
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Speaker 12: my play, and so I'm thost good. It was good

548
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Speaker 12: to be able to hear what he was saying and

549
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Speaker 12: as I'm processing with the defenses giving me and then

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Speaker 12: go out and still play a.

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Speaker 1: Football, all right.

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Speaker 3: That was new Minnesota Vikings quarterback Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 2: As we are joined by former Stanford head.

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Speaker 3: Coach David Shaw. Coach, is that Josh Dobbs in a

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Speaker 3: nutshell hearing an answer like that?

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Speaker 13: There's no question about it. This kid is so bright,

557
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Speaker 13: he's so energetic. You see his personality, you see the

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Speaker 13: gravity with which he speaks. He takes everything very seriously.

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Speaker 13: I had a chance to recruit him the summer before

560
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Speaker 13: his senior year, he didn't have a lot of scholarship offers,

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Speaker 13: so we were hoping to get him at Stanford on

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Speaker 13: a baseball scholarship, maybe a partial baseball scholarship, Welcome on

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Speaker 13: the team.

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Speaker 10: I just figured after a while he was going to earn.

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Speaker 13: A scholarship and join the football team because we'd already

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Speaker 13: given our quarterback scholarship away. But I felt we all

567
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Speaker 13: felt something great about this kid. And then his senior

568
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Speaker 13: film got out and he blew up and of course

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Speaker 13: hit up to Tennessee and it's a it's a great story.

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Speaker 13: But man, I thought we had the inside track to

571
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Speaker 13: this brilliant young man. But I'm so excited for him,

572
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Speaker 13: but not surprised about his success.

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Speaker 2: You can did what you passed.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I should have just taken two quarterbacks. But I

575
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Speaker 13: was so excited for him, and he's such a great kid.

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Speaker 13: Of course you got these other offers, and he called me, said, coach,

577
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Speaker 13: I'm not going to come, but don't forget now. Our

578
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Speaker 13: baseball program thought he had a chance to be pro baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: they were excited really well. And his athleticism, you see,

580
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Speaker 13: his competitiveness, just so excited for him, all the things

581
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Speaker 13: that he's done so far and what he's going to

582
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Speaker 13: do in his future to come unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And what do you play in baseball? What position?

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Speaker 13: I think he was multi positional, but he could pitch.

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Speaker 13: I mean he had a strong arm, but this kid

586
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Speaker 13: could throw from the outfield as well. He was one

587
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Speaker 13: of those guys that had multiple tools that a lot

588
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Speaker 13: of baseball programs were very excited about.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable. Unbelievable I want from a coaching perspective and a

590
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Speaker 1: knowledge of quarterbacks perspective, coach of just when you don't

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Speaker 1: take a single snap during the week, and you're on

592
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Speaker 1: the sideline and you're taking your first snap from the center,

593
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Speaker 1: the whole offensive line is around you because they've never

594
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Speaker 1: heard your cadence a day in their lives, and you're

595
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Speaker 1: thrown out there onto a football field with really no

596
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Speaker 1: understanding hardly of the offense. Can you just put that

597
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Speaker 1: in perspective for everybody at home about what Josh Dobbs

598
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Speaker 1: was walking into and trying to succeed in.

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Speaker 10: What he did was truly amazing. And as a coach,

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Speaker 10: the day, the moment he walks in the room.

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Speaker 13: Right, we got a couple of days that can be

602
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Speaker 13: back you first start with what's simple. Okay, here's our playbook,

603
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Speaker 13: or at least here's our game this week. Well looks

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Speaker 13: familiar to what.

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Speaker 3: Do you like?

606
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Speaker 10: What do you know?

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Speaker 13: It'll start with those four or five plays, Okay, great

608
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Speaker 13: memris these things. And after that, it's okay, it's snapcow,

609
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Speaker 13: it's motions, it's talking in the huddle. It's being able

610
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Speaker 13: to just spit the verbage out, even if you don't

611
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Speaker 13: know what all the verbage is, being able to hear

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Speaker 13: it and then say it in the huddle.

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Speaker 1: And then the hard.

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Speaker 13: Part, all right, you're on third down, you have to

615
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Speaker 13: check the play, you have to switch to protection. That

616
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Speaker 13: communication with the offensive line and the running backs that's

617
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Speaker 13: so so difficult. So earlier in the week you're just

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Speaker 13: thinking about him being your backup quarterback and saying, Okay,

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Speaker 13: we're gonna have a box for him on the on

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Speaker 13: the play sheet, just a few plays that he knows, uh.

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Speaker 10: And then you get into the game and then the one.

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Speaker 13: Thing you do have is that quarterback uh to coach communicator.

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Speaker 13: And now you being able is the coach to say, okay, hey,

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Speaker 13: this is that play that has the dagger coming from

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Speaker 13: your left side. The inside in cud with the shallow

626
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Speaker 13: cross coming from the tight end and the post on

627
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Speaker 13: the backside. So you can explain the play before you

628
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Speaker 13: call it. So even if he doesn't understand the call,

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Speaker 13: he can just spit it out. But the words you

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Speaker 13: gave him before you gave him the call gives him

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Speaker 13: an idea of which play it is.

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Speaker 3: Coach, even though he's had so much game experience, and

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Speaker 3: why won't you so much he's had game experience in

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Speaker 3: the NFL? Is he an outlier because we see some

635
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Speaker 3: guys it takes a year, maybe a year and a

636
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Speaker 3: half to kind of figure out his game.

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Speaker 2: And even though he did a lot of.

638
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Speaker 3: Stuff on scrambles and things like that to make plays,

639
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Speaker 3: is he just an outlier to be able to go

640
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Speaker 3: on the road. Let's not forget this was in Mercedes

641
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Speaker 3: Been Stadium. There was crowd noise and things like that

642
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Speaker 3: and pull that off.

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Speaker 13: Definitely an outlier. He's definitely an outliar for a guy

644
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Speaker 13: who's an aerospace engineer. Right, you know he's right, you

645
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Speaker 13: know he's smart, you know he's got a good recall,

646
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Speaker 13: he's got great communication skills. Obviously from talking to him,

647
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Speaker 13: you can see that but what he did was truly

648
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Speaker 13: amazing to be able to digest as much of the

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Speaker 13: game plan as possible, make a ton of in game adjustments.

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Speaker 10: And he said something very interesting in that clip to

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Speaker 10: go out there and still play.

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Speaker 13: Good football, right, because there's a chance too for him

653
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Speaker 13: to maybe second guess himself, and he didn't do that.

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Speaker 10: He said, Hey, when it all breaks down, I'm going

655
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Speaker 10: to use my athleticism.

656
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Speaker 13: I'm going to try to take care of the football.

657
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Speaker 13: I'm going to try to put myself a position to

658
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Speaker 13: be successful. He saw him breakdown. He didn't see anybody opening.

659
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Speaker 13: He broke out and ran for a couple of first downs.

660
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Speaker 13: He's an athlete at some point also just be that's football, right,

661
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Speaker 13: and I can't I escape and I make this throw. Hey,

662
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Speaker 13: somebody's open.

663
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Speaker 3: I got to hit him.

664
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Speaker 10: What's the ball?

665
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Speaker 13: And he was able to go out there and do

666
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Speaker 13: that even with all these things going out. You have

667
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Speaker 13: to be able to trust yourself in the moment to

668
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Speaker 13: make those plays, and he did that.

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Speaker 1: You touched on it for a second, coach, and I

670
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Speaker 1: wanted you to elaborate on this when you mentioned things

671
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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell could say to him prior to giving him

672
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Speaker 1: the play call. I know Josh Dobbs went out there

673
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Speaker 1: and played just an unbelievable performance. But from the head coach,

674
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, I want yours and elaborate on this

675
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Speaker 1: was this one of the best coaching performances we've seen

676
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Speaker 1: this year. To be able to do that, to help

677
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Speaker 1: out your quarterback as that part from him communicating it

678
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Speaker 1: seems so difficult.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's no sense, There's no question about it.

680
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Speaker 13: The coaches did a phenomenal job and I'm sure as

681
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Speaker 13: head coach, coordinat coordinator, everybody on the staff doing what

682
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Speaker 13: they could to just give job, give Josh just enough.

683
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Speaker 10: Information for him to go out there and play.

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Speaker 13: You don't want to overload him. You can't give him

685
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Speaker 13: the whole training camp. Please, but you don't have time.

686
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Speaker 13: But that's why there was such real emotion on from

687
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Speaker 13: the coaching staff and from all those players. They knew

688
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Speaker 13: what this young man was going through to get there

689
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Speaker 13: so late in the weekend, have a chance to show

690
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Speaker 13: up and know a couple of plays let alone lead

691
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Speaker 13: live on a game winning drive to seal the victory.

692
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Speaker 13: That the emotion was real because they put a lot

693
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Speaker 13: in this young man, and they gave it, he gave

694
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Speaker 13: it back to them and that was that was just

695
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Speaker 13: such a great sight to see.

696
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Speaker 3: Okay, coach, We've seen Josh Jobs start some NFL games

697
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Speaker 3: for three teams, Tennessee, Arizona, and now I'm Minnesota.

698
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Speaker 9: CJ.

699
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Speaker 3: Shroud is still a rookie. He goes down there, it

700
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Speaker 3: leads the Texans to a game winning drive, throwing for

701
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Speaker 3: a record I believe it was four hundred and seventy

702
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Speaker 3: yards in the process. When you see CJ. Shroud fourteen

703
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Speaker 3: touchdowns only one interception this year, what you know, what

704
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Speaker 3: is your takeaway of somebody so young, leading a young

705
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Speaker 3: team and performing the way that he has.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I had to go back and go back to

707
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Speaker 13: my I worked for him coming out of college and

708
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Speaker 13: I wrote down at the top of my sheet composed, smooth, rhythmic, accurate,

709
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Speaker 13: And when you watch him all year, that's what she's

710
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Speaker 13: The Number one though, is composure.

711
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Speaker 10: He didn't play perfectly. He missed a couple throws early.

712
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Speaker 1: In that game.

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Speaker 10: You never put his head down.

714
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Speaker 13: You never see him exude anything but positivity and energy.

715
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 13: This young man is so composed and then that last

716
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Speaker 13: one he throws the ball from point A to point B.

717
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Speaker 13: He puts it where he wants to put it. You

718
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Speaker 13: go to the end of this game, right. He had

719
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Speaker 13: a phenomenal game. Was his last two throws were amazing.

720
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Speaker 13: The sideline throw that deep out versus cover two. There's

721
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Speaker 13: a corner shallow, there's a safety deep over at the top.

722
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Speaker 13: Incredible drops that ball. You have to get that ball

723
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Speaker 13: up and down. You have to get it up over

724
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Speaker 13: the corner. You shallow at about four or five yards

725
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Speaker 13: and get it down before the deep safety gets over there.

726
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Speaker 10: He got that ball up and down and there's probably about.

727
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Speaker 13: A four foot by four foot area that he could

728
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Speaker 13: put that ball.

729
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Speaker 10: He put it there perfectly. And then the game winner

730
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Speaker 10: was just a Nolan Ryan fastball.

731
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Speaker 13: He saw the scene, he looked the safety off, and

732
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Speaker 13: he threw a fastball in the back of the end

733
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Speaker 13: zone for the game winner. This young man has the composure,

734
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Speaker 13: he's got the skill set, he's got the athletic ability,

735
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Speaker 13: he's got the accuracy. But more importantly, he's just got

736
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Speaker 13: that comfort and feel and the guys around him. He

737
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Speaker 13: saw it on Ohio State. You see it on this team.

738
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Speaker 13: The just believed this young man is going to make

739
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Speaker 13: the plays.

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Speaker 10: To win the game.

741
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Speaker 13: It's been amazing and I don't anticipate this ride to

742
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Speaker 13: to slow down anytime soon.

743
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Speaker 10: He's not going to get a big head. This is

744
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Speaker 10: who he is.

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Speaker 13: He walks in the room and believes in himself, and

746
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Speaker 13: his teammates believe in him as well.

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Speaker 1: Coach. I was told two things at his pro day

748
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Speaker 1: by head coach Ryan Day. The two things that stand

749
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Speaker 1: out to me the most, and I'm curious which one

750
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Speaker 1: is maybe paying dividends for him at the NFL level

751
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Speaker 1: the most. He said, One, he goes through his progression

752
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Speaker 1: so well with his feet, which is a big part

753
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Speaker 1: of how he finds his way through his progressions. And then, secondly,

754
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Speaker 1: coach told me, is his ability to understand the amount

755
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Speaker 1: of velocity on certain throws with certain routes. He doesn't

756
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Speaker 1: just rifle it in. He has such a good understanding

757
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Speaker 1: of understanding how much he has to put on each throw,

758
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Speaker 1: regarding each throw within the progression or within the play.

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Speaker 1: How are those working for him at the NFL level.

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Speaker 10: Those are two really big things.

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Speaker 13: One is trained right, you are trained to get your

762
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Speaker 13: feet positioned and a great great quote from Steve Young,

763
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Speaker 13: He said, my feet take me to my reads. And

764
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Speaker 13: the best quarterbacks do that right. They get their body

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Speaker 13: in position before their eyes. Their feet get over there,

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Speaker 13: so when they see it, they can get the ball

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Speaker 13: out of their hands very quickly.

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Speaker 10: You see this, and he's so natural for him, so

769
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Speaker 10: easy for him. His feic go from one to two

770
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Speaker 10: to three and the ball gets out of his hands

771
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Speaker 10: very quickly.

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Speaker 13: But the ability to put the different velocities and the

773
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Speaker 13: different trajectories on the ball, that's a natural.

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Speaker 14: You know.

775
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Speaker 13: You can try to train that, but the split second

776
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Speaker 13: decision making that you have to know. This one's a fast,

777
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Speaker 13: one has to get up and down, this one has

778
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Speaker 13: to be a side arm. Those things have come so

779
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 13: natural that there's an instinct involved that if you have

780
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Speaker 13: to train it, he's probably not gonna get there.

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Speaker 10: But when they walk in the door, if that guy

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Speaker 10: has it.

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Speaker 13: Now you work on all those other things and know

784
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Speaker 13: when it's time, he knows what kind of ball to throw.

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Speaker 10: We had that with Andrew Luck.

786
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Speaker 13: We never had to worry about teaching you how to

787
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Speaker 13: make these different throws.

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Speaker 10: Like he would just see it.

789
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Speaker 13: Oh this one's a fast, but oh this one's sidearm. Oh,

790
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Speaker 13: this one's got to get up and down. Oh, this

791
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Speaker 13: one's I'm gonna lead the receiver. Oh, this one, I'm

792
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Speaker 13: gonna stop him with the ball. Those things have to

793
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 13: happen in such a quick such a quick fashion, from

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Speaker 13: the time that you see it right between seeing it

795
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Speaker 13: and anticipating where you have to put it and then

796
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Speaker 13: making it. Those are all split second decisions, and this

797
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Speaker 13: guy does it with ease.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Coach David Shaw, that is great stuff.

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Speaker 3: I believe it is such good stuff. Hey, former Stafford

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Speaker 3: coach David Shaw, we thank you so much for joining

801
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: us and from this point on you will be remembered.

802
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: Is the man who tried to sneak Josh Doobs in

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00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: on a baseball scholarship and didn't get an iceball scout.

804
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Speaker 3: Thanks so much, coach.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next on the UNFL report.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be maybe is Lamar Jackson the leading

807
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: can it for the MVP? Oh we have Jeff Chedea

808
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: and the first read coming up next on the NFL report.

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Speaker 15: If we playing like that, we don't even need to

810
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 15: hit no peak or stride, just keep staying locked in

811
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Speaker 15: how we are and just planning every appointed the same way.

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Speaker 15: You know, physicality on being smart uh and depending what's ours?

813
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Speaker 10: You know our home turf oh.

814
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Speaker 3: Was Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson after the Ravens put a

815
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Speaker 3: thirty seven to three beat down on the Seattle Seahawks

816
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Speaker 3: and James. We are now joined by Jeff Chadea, who

817
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: finished writing his first read call NFL dot Com slash

818
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Speaker 3: first Read and Jeff, the first thing out of the

819
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Speaker 3: gate you talk about is Lamar Jackson in the Ravens,

820
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Speaker 3: And even though last week you were riding with the

821
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Speaker 3: Bengals kind of hard, you're saying that the Ravens are

822
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: that left How I want to hear because first thing

823
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Speaker 3: I read was how the Ravens are that team?

824
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Speaker 1: You know what, it's scary. I'm still right with the Bengals.

825
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 14: But when you beat up on Seattle and the same

826
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Speaker 14: way you beat up on Detroit, it's hard to pick

827
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Speaker 14: against you. I still believe that the Bengals will be

828
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Speaker 14: in the mix with the championship. It'll be a hot

829
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Speaker 14: playoff team. But right now, you beat Detroit and Seattle

830
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Speaker 14: by a combined score seventy five to nine, You're doing

831
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Speaker 14: a lot of things right.

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Speaker 1: And I look at the Ravens.

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Speaker 14: I've been very skeptical of them throughout the year, just

834
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Speaker 14: because that whole new offense they were trying to get going.

835
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Speaker 1: Didn't start quickly.

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Speaker 14: The defense has been was it's been great, but they've

837
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 14: always been pretty good on defense, and it just felt like, Okay,

838
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 14: there's just more better storylines.

839
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Speaker 1: Miami with sex year early. Cleveland have the great defense.

840
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Speaker 14: Obviously, Buffalo Bills started fast, but you look at what

841
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 14: they're doing now and the way they're beating up on teams.

842
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 14: They've got everything you want win a championship, and that's

843
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Speaker 14: you know, Lamar's playing an MVP level. They ran the

844
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Speaker 14: ball down Seattle. Stroat Seattle had a pretty good run

845
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Speaker 14: defense playing into that game. The defense again, Mike McDonald

846
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Speaker 14: has quietly become a very hot head coaching candidate based

847
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Speaker 14: on what he's done with His defense got played at

848
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Speaker 14: all different levels. I love the Ravens, and really I

849
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Speaker 14: don't think it's close right now for second place.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you put.

851
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Speaker 1: Up about five hundred and fifteen yards and you give

852
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Speaker 1: up a one hundred and fifty one, that's a hard

853
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Speaker 1: thing for me to say because the numbers are all

854
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: jumbled in a sense. Uh, And the way this game

855
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Speaker 1: went you know, five point fifteen to one to five one. Yeah.

856
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Speaker 1: But we were raving about this Seahawks defense with Brian

857
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Baldinger on last Thursday, Steve right on this show, and

858
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: they just went and just outphysicaled them up and down

859
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: the football field. And I think the biggest part about

860
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Speaker 1: this is, right, Jeff, it's not all on Lamar's shoulders

861
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's a huge thing for

862
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: him personally and for this offense as it continues to grow,

863
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: and as this team continues to be even upset after

864
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Speaker 1: victories like they were after they beat Arizona a week

865
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Speaker 1: ago and they were just livid about the way they

866
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Speaker 1: played against the Cardinals. That's kind of a standard there

867
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Speaker 1: holding themselves to you mentioned, Mike McDonald. I want to

868
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Speaker 1: talk about your your mid season awards, which were different.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has to read this article because they're different than

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Speaker 1: the ones that you see really on any other platform.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Minal, unconventional mid season love it. You had him

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Speaker 1: as one as as your assistant coach, right on the

873
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. On the mid season award.

874
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, Yep, yep, he was my guy and it

875
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: was a tough one.

876
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 14: That was the toughest selection I had to make because

877
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 14: you're talking about them, Schwartz and Cleveland, you're talking about

878
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 14: with Stu Spagnolo's done with the Kansasity Chiefs defense. But

879
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 14: my McDonald meant, the numbers do not lie.

880
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they're giving.

881
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 14: Up thirteen points a game, they're the first and yards

882
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 14: allowed that They're great against the run, they're great against

883
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 14: the pass. And really, when he came from Michigan last year,

884
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 14: you know, it took a while to get used to

885
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 14: what he was doing because they'd had a ton of

886
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 14: injuries obviously, and they were changing up some things.

887
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: But communications standpoint.

888
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 14: But again, they've got so much talent and that ro

889
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 14: Quand Smith straight you know, from the Barons last year

890
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 14: it was a big deal. Then it's Steven a bigger

891
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 14: deal now because it's lit it by the middle of

892
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 14: their defensive linebacker. And now it's just like they can

893
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 14: scheme up so much. They got so many guys that

894
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 14: can rush the passer. The back end is strong. Geno

895
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 14: Smith steps in from Marcus Williams who was a big

896
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 14: time free agent acquisition, and he's leading the league at interceptions.

897
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: They're just hitting on all cylinders.

898
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 14: Right now, and my god, when you're that deep, they're

899
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 14: the Ragmans of old with an offense.

900
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: That's what makes me scared.

901
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah. I have a guy like Gino

902
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: Stone come in and step in and play the way

903
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: he's playing. That goes speak to character development, you know,

904
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: player accountability and things like that. Real quick, JP, who

905
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: is who is your defensive assistant that you think on

906
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: that defensive side?

907
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 8: Is a guy?

908
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: I kind of screwed up this one. I said, Steve

909
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: Spagnolo is the way that Chiefs defense is playing. But

910
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: then right there, I don't know why I didn't think

911
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: about it when Jeff drops Jim Schwartzy on us and

912
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, Schwartz has been my guy all year. I

913
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,879
Speaker 1: don't know why I picked Spags over Schwartz. So I'm

914
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: gonna change it last minute. Hopefully the graphic doesn't care,

915
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: but I'm going with Schwartz. And then let's jump to

916
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: the offensive side. I'm gonna go Bobby Slowick. We were

917
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: just talking about CJ. Stroud. You guys know that with

918
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback, a rookie quarterback, they have the fewest

919
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: turnovers in the NFL. As an offense, just five turnovers,

920
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: one interception for fumbles, to protect the football and play

921
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: like they are. That's also because we're gonna have Bobby

922
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: on the show on Thursday, so I hope he's watching.

923
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: I want to give him his flowers in a sense.

924
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: But Laramie Tunsel was on this show Jeff and said

925
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: he is already, in his eyes, Bobby Slowick one of

926
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the best offensive coordinators in football. And this is a

927
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: guy that people outside of Houston and San Francisco probably

928
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: have no idea what he looks like.

929
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jeff, before we get to your offensive guy,

930
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm going with Bobby Slowick too.

931
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: You know, no one knew who he was.

932
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: He's doing this, but Slowik train.

933
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: But defensively, I've got to go to Aaron Glenn, the

934
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: DC in Detroit. I mean, last year, first eight games

935
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: there were terrible. He tightened it up the back nine

936
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: games last year. This year, they're one of the best

937
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: defenses in the NFL, one of the youngest defense in

938
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: the NFL. So again, I can understand why this is

939
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: so tough for you. But let's get to your offensive

940
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: Most unconventional award winner the Assistant coach Brian Johnson.

941
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: But love Eagles and they can language heat because of

942
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: a ride every year.

943
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 14: I think whatever, you set the bar high with Shane

944
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 14: Stiken running your offense. It's hard to come in as

945
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 14: the next guy and improve yourself and be loved. But

946
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 14: you look at the numbers there and it's like they've

947
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 14: been just as good, if not better than some areas.

948
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 14: You know, they're still good, They're still great in the

949
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 14: red zone. They're still putting up a ton of points,

950
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 14: number of explosive plays. Yeah, Jaalen Hurts is not running

951
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 14: the football the way he used to, but one he's

952
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 14: been banged up too. I think they're trying to get

953
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 14: away from some of that stuff, trying to be more

954
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 14: selective in how they use him running the football play.

955
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 14: As far as the numbers show, I mean, she's done

956
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 14: everything you would want an offense to do. Old places

957
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 14: are not really good at offense is really in pass

958
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 14: protection win rate. But aside from that, they're pretty good offensively.

959
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 14: And she's the guy is getting you done for an

960
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 14: eight and one team.

961
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: Well, here's a great thing too. In your comms, this

962
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: is unconventional.

963
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: You have the best return on investment, which is basically

964
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 3: an offseason transaction and that the team made. So let's

965
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: look at your offensive and defensive players. Who you got.

966
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got Derek Carr on offense.

967
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 14: And again that was a tough one because I wanted

968
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 14: to go to Andre Swift but didn't want to have

969
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 14: too many Eagles in there. But Derek Carr is giving

970
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 14: the Saints what they need. I know it started slow

971
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 14: there and they were I guess scored fifty points in

972
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 14: the first four games in the season. But they're sitting

973
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 14: here in first place. They still are in a very

974
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 14: good position.

975
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: To win this division.

976
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 14: He's the best quarterback in the division by far and

977
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 14: far I wanted was somebody to come in there. Yeah,

978
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 14: my Far's he came in there.

979
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: He just stabilized it.

980
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 14: I think that's a great thing with that franchise. And

981
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 14: on the flip side of it, on the defensive side,

982
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 14: Bobby Wagner, you talked about that Seattle defense last ye

983
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 14: with Yeah, with the I forget who does we were

984
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 14: dotting the ball to With Baldy, it's all his psych

985
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 14: You look at what he's done at thirty three, has

986
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 14: not slowed down a bit and he was a one

987
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 14: year five million dollar signing, and he's one of the

988
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 14: league leaders and tackles. Obviously, he's a great locker room presence.

989
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 14: That defense has flipped so much from last year because

990
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 14: of his presence and guys like Jordan Brooks and Jamal Adams.

991
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 14: But Bobby Wagger has not slowed down a bit.

992
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: Scary he's been.

993
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 10: Able to do.

994
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I love it. I'll give mine real quick. I am

995
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, so I'll go DeAndre Swift giving up a

996
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: fourth round pick to get a guy who's third in

997
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing right now. I understand that's why

998
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: you were debating between him and Dear. I mean, what

999
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: he's done in that running game is taken over the

1000
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: position from the other guys that they also brought in

1001
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: in this offseason. And then on the defense side of

1002
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: the ball, guys, I'll go with Jedevi n Clowney off

1003
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: the street for a deal that's up to six million dollars,

1004
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: not even six million guaranteed for what he's done in

1005
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: this Ravens defense. Just another piece. As Jeff was talking

1006
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: about the middle of the defense with Roquan Smith, where

1007
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: they've been able to line him up up on that

1008
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: defensive sid out of the variety of spots on that

1009
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: defensive line. He's been able to wreak havoc in a

1010
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: sense and be disruptive even if numbers aren't there.

1011
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, JJPU and I are taking the same position said,

1012
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: they're going with Zadarias Smith over in Cleveland with your

1013
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: guy Jim Schwartz. He's not putting up these astronomical numbers, right,

1014
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: but he is doing something to fit into this defense

1015
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: so other guys can eat and just having that presence

1016
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: right there has really helped out that defense. And then offensively,

1017
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: even though he's been nicked up lately. Running back David

1018
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: Montgomery with the Detroit Lions, the fact he gives him

1019
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: that power game you're seeing Jamior Gibbs. Gibbs give him

1020
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: them that all everything game. But now they've got a

1021
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: power runner. He's got six rushing touchdowns, He's got almost

1022
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: four hundred yards rushing on ninety four carries. That's the

1023
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: type of running back you need when they get to

1024
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: some cold weather playoff games.

1025
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: They've got a perfect compliment of stuff right there.

1026
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: Jeff, another great first rd episode, and that wasn't unconventional.

1027
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: Just your awards were so we appreciate you. We look

1028
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: forward to Senior next Monday and JP. You know, it

1029
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: was unconventional, the Raiders getting to win, and then Hardy

1030
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 3: in like.

1031
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: It's nineteen ninety nine.

1032
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: Afterwards we come back. We're gonna talk for Raiders and

1033
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: may be short lived, but these guys are happy of

1034
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 3: the NFL report.

1035
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 16: Nor right like we're talking about it, man, blank sheet,

1036
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 16: new chapter.

1037
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: Were writing our own script, write our own strip. Man.

1038
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 3: That's just one step.

1039
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 14: Man.

1040
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 17: You guys know how to go. But more emporintly, Man,

1041
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 17: this is about us, This is about you. You guys

1042
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 17: made up your minds what we was gonna do. We

1043
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 17: did it exactly what we said and then we did it.

1044
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 17: Hey man, I know the coaches, the whole organization, the

1045
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 17: whole buildings. Probably more importantly, I'm happy for you guys.

1046
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 17: It was rough the last two weeks. Biggest window, the

1047
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 17: front window. I guess what every door We're going to

1048
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 17: chicken from now on. But no thanks about it. Man,

1049
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 17: Hey man, you know what this time is. I'll see you.

1050
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: Wo welcome back to the NFL Report. That is Antonio Pierce,

1051
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: the intermad coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, and Steve

1052
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: that was some locker room, some postgame speech that you

1053
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: maybe you thought your audio was cutting in and out.

1054
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of bleeps that in that

1055
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: speech right there, from the Raiders putting it out there.

1056
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: But your initial thoughts when you saw everything that the

1057
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: Raiders themselves put out on their social media accounts after

1058
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 1: this win, and from players like Max cross be putting

1059
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: things out on their own account.

1060
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's my initial thought.

1061
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 3: I mean, because there were ten different videos of joy

1062
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: and celebration from the Raiders coming from the team's account,

1063
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 3: which basically told me that they had been let out

1064
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 3: of jail.

1065
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: The over abundance of joy and you, for.

1066
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: Our podcast listeners, you heard it.

1067
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: For our television viewers, you watched it.

1068
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: You saw smiles on their faces, not just because they

1069
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: dusted a bad Giant team, because it was fun again

1070
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 3: for them. Look, James, it may be fleeting, they may

1071
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: lose the rest of their games, but in that moment,

1072
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: those people with that organization got to experience joy, and

1073
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: it told me that there had been none of that

1074
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: all season long leading up to that point.

1075
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: You heard Antonio Pierce's speech right there, Steve, what did

1076
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: he say? I know what you guys have been through

1077
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. The last two It wasn't just

1078
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: what you've been through the last couple of days since

1079
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: Tuesday when Josh McDaniels was fired. It was what you've

1080
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: been through the last couple of weeks. So obviously he's

1081
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: really conveying everything that everybody in that room knew what

1082
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: was going on and what oftentimes happened. Steve say is

1083
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: when head coaches are let go, players feel guilty. Players

1084
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: feel like it is my fault, we didn't perform up

1085
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: to our standards, and it is our fault that our

1086
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: head coach lost his job. That was not the vibe

1087
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: in the Raiders locker room. We'll see what happens moving

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