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Speaker 1: is this is your favorite episode. It's Sophia's favorite episode.

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Speaker 1: She loves rain Towers so much. Hi, everybody, We're like,

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Speaker 1: we're all debating about who's going to start with this

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Speaker 1: glad that Ellie storyline is over because it has been

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Speaker 1: an ordeal me trying not to cry in these episodes.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot like we've been sitting on zoom the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. All of us crying and um,

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Speaker 1: this one took the cake. Season three, episode thirteen, The

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Speaker 1: Wind that Blew My Heart Away. Before we watched the

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Speaker 1: episode and we read the title, we were all joking

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Speaker 1: that it feels like a romance novel with Fabio on

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Speaker 1: and switch, another Baden switch. I loved this episode. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Okay, y'all. This episode aired originally on February first,

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Speaker 1: two thousand six. It is about the big storm which

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Speaker 1: causes a blackout hits Tree Hill, and some very pivotal

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Speaker 1: relationship moments happen for everyone. Everybody's all coupled up in

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Speaker 1: the rain. Keith and Karen's relationship takes a big step

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Speaker 1: forward physically and emotionally with three little words, but Dan

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Speaker 1: Nathan and Haley find common ground on their college issue

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Speaker 1: We all sobbed and David Jackson really directed the hell

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Speaker 1: out of this directed Oh my god, and Stacy Rukeys

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Speaker 1: a shout out as Lindsay Wolfington, our incredible music supervisor

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Speaker 1: who really brought a soundtrack that um devastated us. Allow

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Speaker 1: girls because call it. You know, this is we're the

428
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: girls that everybody wants to make out with. And that's

429
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: the word that I also feel so weird about, because

430
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: if you haven't noticed, it's always like really misogynistic billionaire

431
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: men who call people who have fractions of their money

432
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: elite in the world today, and I'm just like, what's happening?

433
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Like what's going on here? So I feel like I

434
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: would love to know what elite meant in the sort

435
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: of cultural lexicon. In two Stacy. Stacy was sitting there

436
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: at her desk and she was like, Okay, I got

437
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: it's not the it. Girls were not Paris Hilton. It's

438
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: can't be the pink lady. Yeah, where's my thesaurus? What's

439
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 1: the word that means special? Elite? These are lead girls? Now,

440
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: it's I think you were right by the way Hillary

441
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: that she was kind of poking fun at our creator

442
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: because she with the poncho, the whole thing with the

443
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: poncho with Nathan and and a lot of the dialogue

444
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: that Rachel was saying it was so it felt it

445
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: felt very over overly done, to the point where it

446
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: was so overtly exact phrases that had come out of

447
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: his mouth. Yeah. Yeah, so able to rebuttal that from

448
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: like from perspective of like, no, this is and we

449
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: know he sort of always saw himself his mouth. So

450
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: I think it's genius level trolling and that because when

451
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: when they said like certain things about Rachel, I was like,

452
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know those things that Mark used

453
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: to pick on, and what mouth says is, oh my god,

454
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: I can't find any flaws in this. You're perfect and

455
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to come after you physically and kiss

456
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: you because it's inappropriate. And so it's basically a female

457
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: writer's way of putting him in check. Just being like, no, no, tachie,

458
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: tachi techie, t like it. I wanted to hear something

459
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: else with my mouth and Rachel that I want to

460
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: talk about um. When he first is there in the

461
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: beginning of the episode, he kisses her and she's like, whoa, whoa,

462
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Did you just try and kiss

463
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: me or he tries to kiss her something, and he says, well,

464
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,479
Speaker 1: you invited me over, you offered me a beer and

465
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: then turned out all the light and we're sitting on

466
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: your bed, like basically, what else am I supposed to think?

467
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: And she's like, I just thought we were going to

468
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: hang out or whatever. And he's great about it. He's like,

469
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. You know, it's a really a nice

470
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: example of how to behave. UM what do we think of? Like,

471
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that if you're putting out

472
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: those kinds of signals, it's a fair assumption for the

473
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: other person to make that this is your goal. I mean,

474
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: she definitely put out a vibe. Well, no, hold on,

475
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back mouth set the tone with the

476
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking a picture in your bedroom because I want

477
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: to be able to like show my friends that I

478
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: was in your bedroom, okay, yeah, and she is like, okay, well,

479
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: if you're trying to impress your friends, let's take like

480
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: a good photo. And that's when she pulls him onto

481
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: the bed and it's like, let's you know, that's a

482
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: wingman move. That's a move where it's like you will

483
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: look cool. I'm gonna make you look really cool. Yeah.

484
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: But then yeah, she's I just feel for I feel

485
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: for guys like that they're like trying to hatch the

486
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: signals and for girls who are trying to send signals.

487
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: But now we're in a phase right now where it's

488
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: like I don't guys don't want to pick up on

489
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: signals because they don't want to be afraid that they

490
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: did it wrong. And then we're just sitting here like

491
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: what is he going to make him over? Is the

492
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: coolest invention ever because literally all you have to do

493
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: is be like you trying to Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

494
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: it got so simple right right. Here's what I think

495
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: is interesting. We're analyzing this as adults. I when I

496
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: was sixteen, I was still having sleepovers every weekend, and

497
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: you you are in this gray area where it's like, well, yeah,

498
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: when my friends come over, there we hang out in

499
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: my room, like I don't have my parents do. And

500
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: so what I liked about it was the fact that

501
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: he went well because of all this, I was kind

502
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: of hoping and she's like, I just invited you to

503
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: hang out with me, like, oh god, And but they

504
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: got over it real fast. He was just like mortified.

505
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a big deal. It was just like I

506
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: tried something. No thanks, Oh okay, sorry, no problem, let's

507
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: move on to the next topic. Perfect. Sure, it's it's

508
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: mature because it's communicated. Things get messy when you're not communicating.

509
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: And then he was like sorry. I just kind of

510
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: was wondering if all this meant and she was like, yeah, sorry,

511
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: that's not my intention. And then they let it go.

512
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: And so that's where I think to your point, being

513
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: like do you want to kiss me? I think I

514
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: want to kiss you is a great idea. You just ask,

515
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: and if somebody says no, it's like not the end

516
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: of the world. And if somebody says yes, you get

517
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: to make out good for you. You You know how many

518
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: more people I would have kissed in high school if

519
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: I knew that trick of like, hey, do you want

520
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: to kiss? We used to have to guess. Kids, We

521
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: had a guess if someone wanted to kiss us, And

522
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: now the rules are different and all you have to

523
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: do is ask, which is fun. That's like, there are

524
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: fun ways to set it up. Let me know when

525
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: you're trying to kiss me. Yeah, And I liked it. Interestingly,

526
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: does go back to what he said in the end

527
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: when he's like, when you wake up and you have

528
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: to call me, like, when I'm the one you want,

529
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: then we can talk about kissing. And I was like, touche.

530
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: And then she bounces over to his locker room Monday morning. Hi. Hi,

531
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: but oh, speaking of the locker she made out of

532
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: contact with Brooke. Brooke is right, you can sweet and

533
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: bitchy at the same time. I like duality. M I

534
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: did like that. I liked seeing that little moment. That

535
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: was just a nice little reminder of where we are

536
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: in the story and in our fairy tale land. That's

537
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: where we are. How about how about Moira. I'm pushing

538
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: off Ellie because it's the most emotional thing. So how

539
00:31:54,560 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: about Moira and Craig the keithing we speaking of kissing? Yeah,

540
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: in the windows they got down in the couch on

541
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: Main Street, with windows that corner building. What a bold move.

542
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: Not even the kids are doing that on this show.

543
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: And we were spicy. Um the street was so lovely,

544
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: and these moments between them were very they were very sexy,

545
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: but like tender, and I was like, oh, oh, there's

546
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: something happening here between these two. I felt. I felt

547
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: I didn't at all. I didn't like it. It felt weird.

548
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: I like, you've never thought they had chemistry. I like

549
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: the way that Craig and Barbara acted like I was

550
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I shipped as the kids say, deb and Keith. I

551
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: thought their chemistry was like bane on us. And you know,

552
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Moira and Craig certainly had like a tender element. But

553
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: just always kind of felt like, guys, you have be

554
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: friends for so long, Why are we going to do this?

555
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Why are we going to go down this road? What

556
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: is it about chemistry? How like? How how is it

557
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: that some people just don't click on camera and some

558
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: people do, even if they're written for each other and

559
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: they're right, they're both great actors. It's such a mystery

560
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: to me what that factor is? Chemical? Chemical must be chemical? Yeah,

561
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: And it is embarrassing to like, it's embarrassing as an

562
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: actor to know that the chemicals there right, and then

563
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: have to be like, but it's pretend this is our job.

564
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: Like there's just a weird dance you have to do

565
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: in your head where you're like, I don't love this person.

566
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: I can fake it really well though, because we both

567
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: were genetically predisposed with the arimones needed to create a

568
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: chemical connection. But also a lot of people who are

569
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: not remotely attracted to each other have great chemistry on screen. Yeah,

570
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: I would say, I would say, people who hate each other. Yeah,

571
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: that has at times been there, done that. Yeah, I

572
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Joy. You're the third vote, so few votes

573
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: yes on Karen and Keith Nathan Karen, I'm definitely a no.

574
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: I know you are. I I'm kind of go back

575
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: and forth. I was watching them when they were talking

576
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: in the cafe right before the last scene, when they

577
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: were all tangled up in each other, um, and they

578
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: do feel like friends. It's it's a little boring to me.

579
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: It's not exciting. Sophia. We're gonna hold on, We're gonna

580
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: bring Sophia over the dark side. Sophia, Karen and Andy

581
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: versus Karen and Keith. No, I get it. I I

582
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: think what's interesting. There's so much on our show that's

583
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: about chemistry, chemistry, chemistry, fireworks whatever. The like the way

584
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: that he got real close to her face in the

585
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: back of the cafe at the top of the episode,

586
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: right before the blackout and did his whole bit about

587
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: like single guy, single girl, lots of history. I was like, oh, okay.

588
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: And I think perhaps because so much of Keith, the

589
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Keith storyline is combative. Him and Dan are combative, him

590
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: and deb were they had fireworks, but it was a

591
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: real bad idea and it made a mess. Everything's messy,

592
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: and him and Karen are tender. It's a kind of safe. Yeah,

593
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I I feel kind of drawn

594
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: to that ease and that comfort, which maybe is because

595
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: you know, I've done enough therapy to no longer be

596
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: willing to date toxic people. And I'm like, look at

597
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: that emotional safety and communication with two people would genuinely

598
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: respect each other. I like it. So what you're saying

599
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: is I got to take a class. I don't know.

600
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying perhaps I like it now in a way,

601
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: and I might not. I appreciate what you're saying, and

602
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: I hear you and I honor your truth. See I'm

603
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: using my therapy words to um. Yeah, okay, so who else?

604
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: So Dan creeping around in this storm and then getting

605
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: the key to the Sorry, I'm sorry. In what world

606
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: does a background check that you can do on a

607
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: website tell you a personally safety posit box? I hated

608
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: back then internet was still like we were still inventing

609
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: the Internet. Then it was a work in progress that

610
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: felt really lame. Yeah, they got they got bored on

611
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: that one. They're like, just get us from point A

612
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,760
Speaker 1: to point B, Like, just get us in that lock box. Um.

613
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: But again, we've got these fabulous flashbacks to remind us

614
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: that Keith didn't take the Ledger. It was Lucas. Yeah.

615
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I just was like, why is the Ledger back? And Dan?

616
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: I guess it would have been. Was it last season?

617
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: When He's like you thought that was real? I set

618
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: you up to prove that you, you know, are conviving

619
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: whatever he said to Lucas. So now it's worth something

620
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: like didn't shred it? And Brooke put it together? Very confused. Wait,

621
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: that was long sheets of paper. It was like one

622
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: long print out. Get back together? What was in the

623
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: Ledger copy? Was it a copy that Brooke put back together.

624
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,879
Speaker 1: It was something from from Dan's from the ceiling. Dan

625
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: shredded a whole bunch of stuff once Lucas had seen

626
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: the ledger. So I don't know, probably files or something

627
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: that's if you guys are going to be a criminal,

628
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: do better tidy up. What is Dan even looking for

629
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: in Keith's place? He just decided to go wander around

630
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: and poke around because he and the one picture he

631
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: knocks over has a key behind it, and of course

632
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: it's a picture of the two of them from when

633
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: they loved each other. I don't know that all felt

634
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: there was one strange little flashback of the two boys.

635
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know it's actually in the context

636
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: of the episode, but it felt like that would have

637
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: worked better if the whole episode really was about the

638
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: two of them and then together episode. Yeah. I also,

639
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: I just have to express something because we're talking about

640
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: our own sort of lessons in directing and and what.

641
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: There was so much in this episode that David Jackson

642
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: did so well. It drives me nuts when directors and

643
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: maybe he just wasn't given the time. Let me let

644
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: me fast. Seven hours after we filmed All the Storm

645
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: stuff to do everything. But like when when whether it's directors, producers,

646
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: the whole show, maybe they were running late. You know,

647
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: working with kids is tricky because you only get them

648
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: for so much time. But when you don't work with

649
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: kids enough to get them past the stage where they

650
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: are saying their lines and looking at the other kid

651
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: and saying everything is going to be okay, I'm like,

652
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: help these kids talk to each other and and and there,

653
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: that whole thing felt rushed, even the way they shot

654
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: that scene with them, like they never got comfortable with

655
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: their dialogue. And and I think it must have been

656
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: we were always behind the ball on our show with time.

657
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: We were always scrambling to get the last shot because

658
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, has happened so often in TV. A studio

659
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: doesn't want to give you as much of a budget

660
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: as you need to shoot your show, so you usually

661
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: do like one too few days per episodes. So they

662
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: also want you to make the biggest show, never the biggest.

663
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: They'll give you a lot of money to rent airplane

664
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: size fans, but not to produce the show. So interestingly,

665
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: I I would imagine that was a very rushed thing,

666
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: especially because they cross covered it like that was a

667
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: rushed scene, but I think the fact that those kids

668
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: didn't get long enough to really feel familiar with each

669
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: other made the flashback also stick out and a really

670
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: like what is this kind of way? That's sometimes where

671
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: the definitely in the floor. Man, if we still like

672
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: a stand by me flashback of Teeth and Danny doing

673
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: something serious together, I would have loved that would have

674
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: been a cool kind of a bottle episode. I think, yeah,

675
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, I never got that. It actually

676
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: would be a cool um series, like a prequel. Yeah,

677
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: like how do we get here? Little Karen? Okay? Things

678
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: to ponder, friends talk about the Ellie fent in the room?

679
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: Oh many, Hillary, when you're like now, when you're a

680
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: little kid, and you're like, I don't know, Like sometimes

681
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: you I think maybe I'm adopted. I wonder who my

682
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: real parents are. Like, my my best friend Nick swears

683
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: to God Susan Sarandon is his real mother. You know,

684
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: like like sometimes you just see people and you're like, yeah, no,

685
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: that's that's who I belong to. There's just this thing

686
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: with shir Lee that I still, twenty years out like

687
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: cry over her, and it makes me feel like a

688
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: total weirdo that I've got this like trauma bond to

689
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: a person who didn't die. She didn't die, guys, She's

690
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: still around. But you thought it was real. You guys

691
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: had such beautiful work together, and your fondness for each

692
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: other comes through, and it's so genuine, Like every scene

693
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: with the two of you makes me cry. So then

694
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: that scene, I was like, I gotta go, I have

695
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: to I have to leave my own house right now.

696
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: She played that so perfectly too. She was so gentle

697
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: and genuine and um she wasn't even conflicted, And that's

698
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: what I loved about it. There was she was sad,

699
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: but she wasn't conflicted like am I making the wrong

700
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: decision by leaving? Or um is Peyton going to be okay?

701
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Or she had just come to She had already had

702
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 1: all those conversations with herself and she was just there

703
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: to say goodbye. And it was very simple and to

704
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: hold space for you to start asking all of those

705
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: questions and go through all of that, and she just

706
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: wanted to be that safe, stable place. UM. I loved that,

707
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: and I love that they gave her the time and

708
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: space too have those moments of struggle even in the end,

709
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: just in the montage. Those moments, you know, were so beautiful.

710
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: I like, I like that they trusted her as an

711
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: actress to do that, and they trusted you, and they knew,

712
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: they knew what you were capable of, and really gave you, guys, Um,

713
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 1: just such high quality material and moments and and space.

714
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: That's what I felt like. They just backed off. They

715
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: meaning the director and the showrunner and everybody who's got

716
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: their hands in the pot trying to make everything. Producers

717
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: and everybody's trying to make everything something. And I felt

718
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: the space that you guys experienced in those moments. It

719
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: was such beautiful work and and so many small gestures

720
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: carried so much weight because of the way that the

721
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 1: two of you related to each other, like her saying,

722
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, let's go out and live, and you having

723
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: this time in the rain and you were laughing so

724
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: genuinely and and experiencing these big feelings. And then you

725
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: come inside and she started brushing your hair. Oh my god,

726
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: the hair brushing. Don't y'all ever try to brush my

727
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: hair because it is a sense memory that will destroy me. Um.

728
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I think when you're the oldest kid, you you your

729
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: job becomes to help take care of younger siblings. And

730
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: this is only something that I've figured out as an

731
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: adult because I've got two kids of my own. The

732
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: oldest kid stops being touched. There's like a touch thing,

733
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: a comfort interesting. And so you see like your parents,

734
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: like you know, trying to take care of everybody and

735
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: like making sure everyone's fed and everyone's out there like

736
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: school stuff and they're after school stuff, and there's a functionality,

737
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: but the eldest kid doesn't get physically touched anymore because

738
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: the baby always needs it more, especially in like families

739
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: with big broods. And it's only in making friends with

740
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: other people from like big families that I've been like, oh,

741
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: that's why I'm such a weirdo. It's probably why I

742
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: made out with literally everyone in high school because you're

743
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: trying to it's like touch therapy where you're just like

744
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: and anybody touching my hair. I mean, you know the

745
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: connection I had to Jojo on the show. It is

746
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: a very maternal thing to do that I've always been.

747
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not embarrassed to admit I'm like super

748
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: sensitive about it. So you're right, Cheryl Lee brushing my hair.

749
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: I was like, who dreamed this ship up. I'm not

750
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: going to get through this scene. You guys saw my face.

751
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: That wasn't acting. That was just me being like, oh

752
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: my god, someone's touching meching me, touching me. Know when

753
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: you were leaning into her robe. At the end of

754
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: that you and she said my daughter, and then you

755
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: know you just have this same one to I heard

756
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: that perfectly tall. Yeah, broke my heart. Well, she I

757
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: was really really sad that we lost her, um, and

758
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, sad for Peyton, but also sad for myself

759
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: because you know, we've gone on and on about how

760
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: awesome she is. Um. But I do think that modeling

761
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: grief for our audience is really important. And now, like

762
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: watching this as an adult is so different. This is

763
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: the first time I've seen this back since like it aired, right,

764
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: how much what was our upset based in? But oh

765
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: my god, Ellie so young? You know, like when we

766
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: did this the first time, she was a grown up

767
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, grown up stairs. Sometimes she's

768
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: younger than we were that we are, you know, And

769
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: the idea that a young woman could die in this way,

770
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: um is super traumatic. Like I mean what Cheryl was

771
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: in her thirties when we shot this like she was

772
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: so young, um, and so parents dying young is you know,

773
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: that's a hard thing for kids to deal with, and

774
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: if our show has been able to, I don't know,

775
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: help kids navigate it. We had a lot of missing parents. Yeah, yeah,

776
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean we had a lot of missing parents. Um.

777
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: But Ellie's storyline was specifically for the teenager who had

778
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: lost somebody and was like, Okay, how do I go

779
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: to school on Monday after my parent died? I know.

780
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: I love that we've got to model that and that

781
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: you you did such a careful a job full of

782
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: care is what I mean to say, in taking care

783
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: of the hearts of those those teenagers and those kids

784
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: that didn't know how to how to move forward. But

785
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: they had they had Peyton, they had our show. They

786
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: had these moments when they knew that they could just

787
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: tune in and walk along that journey with somebody else.

788
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: If they couldn't talk to their friends, if they didn't

789
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: know how to get through it, being able to see

790
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: that had to have made a massive difference. I'm sure

791
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: you hear it all the time from people. I mean

792
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: I've had people reach out just recently on d M

793
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: and say like, you know, people I love are dying

794
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: of breast cancer? Will you guys do like a follow

795
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: up album? Ever to Friends with Benefit? And I'm like,

796
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: I wish I had control over that. Yes, still on

797
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: the internet, Like is that album exists? Still? I don't know?

798
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Are we going to Google this? Is this what our

799
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: telephones are for? I mean, so listen, don't go to

800
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: the same site. Dan. I just pulled up my my

801
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: music uh site and Beyonce is up. I don't know. Listen,

802
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to change pace so I don't cry anymore. Um,

803
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: have you all listen to the new Beyonce? Because repeat

804
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: for days? Joy. It's so it's like it's the perfect

805
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: palate cleanser for a cry baby episode like this one.

806
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: You put on this this song Cuffett, and you're just like,

807
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go make terrible choices right now? Verry on

808
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: brand with Ellie's messaging of go live a messy life,

809
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: don't be scared of anything, It's just life. Listen to

810
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: Beyonce make terrible choices? Yeah, I read Um, I read

811
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: this article the other day. I can't remember if it's

812
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: like on Vice or Vulture or something. And they were

813
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: basically saying that, you know, Beyonce came out and made

814
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: an anthem to like inject culture back into a society

815
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: that's gone flat from pandemic exhaustion. And I was like, yeah,

816
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: because every song on this album makes me want to

817
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: be in the middle of like a warehouse in a

818
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: sea of at least six hundred just like sweaty bodies

819
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: in the dark, dancing like I want to go out

820
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: like wre like we did when we were twenty four.

821
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go where are we going? Where? The

822
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: best part about Beyonce being exactly our age is that

823
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: every phase of life we're in, she creates a soundtrack

824
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: four and I'm like, girl, how did you know how

825
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 1: that's what I was dealing with? God bless you? Oh man, Yeah, Joy,

826
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: That's going to be the thing that makes us all

827
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: feel better after this episode is just good good. She

828
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: was right our contest winner, Amanda, Yes, right, because she

829
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: was saying, you just have to wait, wait two more episodes,

830
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: so this is the one she was talking about. I

831
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: did personally like the last episode, but it was a

832
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: clear winner maybe of the whole season for me. I

833
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: loved this. I walked through every moment with this, I

834
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: think the mouth and Rachel's stuff felt a little I was,

835
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: it felt like they didn't have a lot to write,

836
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: so they stretched it out a little bit more than

837
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: necessary just for the sake of being able to cut

838
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: back and forth. Um so, I because I left my

839
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 1: self wondering, or it left me wondering, what's the point

840
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: of this where we're getting But of course we finally

841
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: got there. So I really loved that. But anyway, I

842
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: loved this episode. I do too, and I like the

843
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: broke asserted herself, like, I'm not getting hurt again. I like,

844
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: explain to me, why me. I'm going to ask you

845
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: pointed questions and I want a serious answer, and I'm

846
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: not going to let you flirt your way around this anymore.

847
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: Like she was right too, by the way, you don't

848
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: sign off the same way you signed off to an

849
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Speaker 1: ex girlfriend, especially after you're like, let's check in on her. No,

850
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: we will not, we will not. I am Yeah. I

851
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: loved I did, really love the way Stacy wrote those scenes.

852
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: I thought it's seriously written all of it to let

853
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: Brooke really express and get to the core of why

854
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: she's having trust issues. Look, you betrayed me. I don't

855
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: trust to you have to tell me more. It's not

856
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: dissimilar to what Haley was saying to Nathan. I'm sorry,

857
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 1: I just have so many questions. I need to talk

858
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: about it. You know, when you when you need to

859
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: know more so that you can understand where you stand

860
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: with someone well. And Peyton does that too, she says,

861
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: I need to talk to you about the cancer. All

862
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: three of us do that in this episode. Explain it

863
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: to me like I'm a kindergartener. H Yeah, it's it

864
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: was very well done, and oddly even comes back to

865
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: the conversation about mouth and Rachel and kissing. It's about communication.

866
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: You've got to communicate because the reality of being a

867
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: human is that if you're not communicating with the people

868
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: in your life, your brain is filling in all those

869
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: gaps with whatever story serves your fear or your anxiety

870
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so it's so much better to talk

871
00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: about it. And yeah, I talking talking it out. King

872
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: is so sexy, super sexy and dude that actually it's

873
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: a perfect time to tell you, guys. I looked at

874
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: our prep doc for this week and got so excited

875
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: because one of our listener questions is from this girl, Emily,

876
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: And she said, what do you think your character is?

877
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Love languages? And I'm like, are we all saying we're

878
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: words of affirmation? Like we just need to talk? Is

879
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: it true for all of us? You know? Yeah? Yeah,

880
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: well Stacy is so good at this. And I didn't

881
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: even think about this until just this moment, talking about

882
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: like how how sexy and important it is like that

883
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: all our characters got to ask questions and stuff and

884
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: have hard conversations. My girlfriend came over for dinner last

885
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 1: night and was like, oh my god, there's this TV show.

886
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: My husband can't watch this show with me, and I'm

887
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: so hot for it, and like the dialogue is so good.

888
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: And she was talking about sex Life Stacy Show and

889
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh funny. Yes, I was just like, oh, yeah,

890
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 1: we know her. She said, how do you owe her? Now?

891
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: I can tell her. She wrote one of our favorite

892
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: episodes ever. Amazing. She knows what women want. Yeah, I Stacy,

893
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: come say hi to us sometimes. Yeah, we're like the

894
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: Stacy fan club over here. What are our listener questions

895
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah? Well I mean in infirmation? Yeah, Jack's service,

896
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: What do we my love language Payton's is probably touched too.

897
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: If her mom has been dead for years and her

898
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: dad doesn't touch her, like touch is going to be

899
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: like a sensitive subject for her. Um. Yeah, I would

900
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: say maybe acts of service for Peyton too, because there's

901
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: not she's doing everything herself that when people do things

902
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: to help her, how do you how does she feel

903
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: about that? Is it like let me alone, let me

904
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: do things myself, or well you clearly see her fall

905
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: for Lucas later because he comes into her kitchen wants

906
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 1: and sweeps things up, and like he helps her do things,

907
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: and Jake never does that, you know, like none of

908
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: the other boys that she dates does that. It's like

909
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: Lucas is the person that shows up and does manual

910
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: labor at her house, and she's like, think this is cute, cool,

911
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: It's right. What's what's Brooks? I mean, definitely words of

912
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: affirmation for her, I think, especially because she comes from

913
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: a family where her parents don't talk to her about anything.

914
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: Um And yeah, I would likewise say acts of service.

915
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: It can be hard for her to receive help. That's

916
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: something that's an arena in which we're certainly similar. So

917
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: when people do it, because I refuse to ask for it.

918
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's earth shifting. It's so meaningful to me,

919
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: and I think that's something we have in common. It

920
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: also took me years to realize, Um, you know, I'm

921
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: a bit of a magpie. I like to collect and nest.

922
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: And that so fair because we could have told you

923
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: as your friends, you know what I have to say,

924
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: like and like I'll be vulnerable here. Like as a

925
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: younger person, when people started talking about love languages and

926
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: people were like gift giving, I was like, how shallow

927
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: gift giving annoying? And and then I started to realize, like,

928
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: oh no, gift giving is such a love language to me,

929
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: Like I love nothing more than being out in the

930
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: world and seeing something and going that's Hillary Joy would

931
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: love that, and collecting little things and like I realized

932
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even a person who saves things for people's birthdays.

933
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Like you both know this. You'll just get a package

934
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: from me because I get excited. I'm like, I collected

935
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: all these little things for you and I want you

936
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: to have them. And yeah, and I'm like, oh, I'm

937
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: a squirrel, like I just I just grab them and

938
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: then I bury. Then Joyle send you like a box

939
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: full of citrus, those citrus Joy would send me from

940
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: California so I could make things here the farm. I

941
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: would be like, it's gold in a box. Yeah, giving

942
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: this treasure hunting for you. Let me tell you if

943
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: you actually received something from me in the mail. I

944
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: love you because I can not get to the post

945
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: office for my life, not to save my life. It's

946
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: so hard for me. I don't know why. And I

947
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: do the same things. So if I like to buy

948
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: things that remind me of people, but then they sit

949
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: on a debt like I, I'll even put them in

950
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: the box. I get them ready to go, and then

951
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, the box ends up at the bottom of

952
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: a pile. And then it's a year later and I'm like,

953
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: what's what's in here? Oh? Yeah, you weren't changed my

954
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: life because I've done that for years. You and hurt

955
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: the same. I finally signed up. I have a FedEx

956
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: account and I have a UPS account I have and

957
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: I go online and I log in and I print

958
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: a label and I schedule to pick up. I can't

959
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 1: be it takes a few minutes. I hadn't I haven't

960
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: seen the inside of any post office that isn't like

961
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: a cute post office from the fifties and a little

962
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: town where I'm got to go in there and buy

963
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: some stamps like that is like a community service project

964
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: to me. But do you think I'm gonna go to

965
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: the post office in l A. Absolutely never. So it's

966
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: only since I finally was like, I'm an adult, I've

967
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: managed to pay my mortgage for a long time. I

968
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to get the mail out

969
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: of this house and that that's it. Like that's where

970
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: the internet has been helpful to me. But if it

971
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: wasn't for that, you never would have gotten your tumblers

972
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: and Hillary never would have gotten the mug with her

973
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: initials on it. Joy, We're just gonna find you like

974
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: a brawny mailman that has to come by once a

975
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: week and pick up your packages. Or I just need

976
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: like a scale where like I need what the post

977
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: office has where it's a scale and then there's a

978
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: keep at on it and then I punch in the

979
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: address and the weight, and then the scale prints the

980
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: label for me and then I just stick it on

981
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: the box that I could do. It's the getting online

982
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: part that is. It's just an endless abyss of pain.

983
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: Maybe if Dan Scott you can find If Dan Scott

984
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: can find that that little box the Keith had in

985
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: two thousand five, we can find you a scale machine.

986
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 1: We're going to find you the scale print out machine.

987
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: I believe in the power of our audience. Wait, so

988
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: we what's Haley's love language? Did you say? I think

989
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: she's acts of service and probably words of affirmation. Actually,

990
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if she has words of affirmation because

991
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: Haley does seem to call bullshit on a lot of things,

992
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: and she's very likely Yeah, yeah, you say it, but

993
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: show me, show me, show me. So I don't know.

994
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's acts of service, and what are what are

995
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: the other ones? Gifts, gift giving, acts of service, physical touch, um,

996
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: words of affirmation, quality time, quality time. That's right, it's

997
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: quality time for her for sure. Yeah. I think that

998
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: makes a big difference. And then we have Danielle who says,

999
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: how different would the show have been if Dan and

1000
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Deb had another child once they were older and more established.

1001
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: So if Nathan had a little brother, do you think

1002
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: there would be a different dynamic or drama if Nathan

1003
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: had a kid's sister or brother. I wonder if they

1004
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: ever thought about that. That's interesting, hm, I mean it

1005
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: kind of would have been a distraction. I don't know

1006
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: the deb would have been willing to haven't like she

1007
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: stuck around that another kid, Dan Blesser, But I don't know. No,

1008
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 1: sometimes it can take the heat off of well it's

1009
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: it's a you know, it can either take the heat

1010
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: off of the first kid, or then you could just

1011
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: pit the kids against each other and it becomes, uh,

1012
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: daddy loves you more, Mommy loves you more. Kind of situation.

1013
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: Did it with Nathan and Lucas And they didn't even

1014
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: grow up in the same house together, but we went

1015
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: through that whole dynamic where he moved to Lucas in

1016
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: And I definitely think he would be the kind of

1017
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: parent who'd put the kids against each other. And I

1018
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: wonder if you know, do you think having a do

1019
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: you think having a daughter would have been? You would

1020
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: have been trumpy with her. It would have been weird,

1021
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Like I can't even say it. I know exactly the

1022
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 1: photo you're picturing right now, you know what I'm talking about.

1023
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: It would have been gross. Yeah, Dan Scott would have

1024
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 1: been the man who said, is it wrong for me

1025
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: to want to date my daughter. You guys are gonna

1026
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: bar this right. He picked up Haley's brat outside of

1027
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: the shower where Pet was. I really think Deb knew.

1028
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: She knew he was a terrible parent. She saw the

1029
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: way that Dan was willing, Like the deep misogyny that

1030
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: you have to be capable of to literally get two

1031
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: girls pregnant at the same time and watch them both Hell,

1032
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: your kids is pretty gnarly. And and I think Deb

1033
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: would have observed the dynamic Dan had with Keith, which

1034
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: was so cruel, and said either way we would lose,

1035
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: Like no, yeah, but I will say, as you know,

1036
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: as an only in my life, Yeah, man, like being

1037
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: the only one. It's it's a lot of pressure. Um

1038
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: and my parents are pretty great, They're not like Dan

1039
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: and Deb, but it is a lot of pressure. There's

1040
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: no one else to um pull focus. So there's a

1041
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: lot of expectation, attention, you know, there's a lot you

1042
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 1: have to kind of live up to. But I would

1043
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: if I put myself in Deb's shoes, I think she

1044
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: she likely would have said, I'd rather focus on one

1045
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: than run the risk of either of these dynamics. I've

1046
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: seen On have in his life that have been so toxic. Yeah,

1047
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: probably secretly got our tubes tied or something, right, don't

1048
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: tell anybody. Oh, guys, thanks for walking through this wild

1049
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: hurricane of an episode with us. We hope you enjoyed it.

1050
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: Let's been a will most likely to okay, most likely

1051
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: to have the messiest trailer on set. So I guess

1052
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 1: we're not doing character options. Uh, this is this one's

1053
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: gonna burn, guys. I mean I feel like I was

1054
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna say it's either you or me. It's definitely you

1055
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: two because my trailer, No you don't. I do a

1056
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: full move in. Yeah, Sophia, you had haying artwork. When

1057
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Speaker 1: we came to visit you in Toronto. You had like

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Speaker 1: dishes and things in your trailer like you had moved in,

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Speaker 1: like it was an apartment. I loved it. Oh, because

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Speaker 1: all that's single you on set makes me so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I do I bring like camping gear? Yeah, I bring

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Speaker 1: lamps because the lights in there are terrible. Joy brings

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Speaker 1: plants and crafts like ways. It's a fault, but I

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Speaker 1: think that's I was inspired. I remember walking into your

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Speaker 1: trailer and seeing all of your apartment in your trailer,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, we could do this.

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Speaker 1: This is an option. And so the difference though, is

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Speaker 1: that you're capable of keeping it all organized and putting

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Speaker 1: everything back. I didn't know that. I wasn't really capable

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Speaker 1: of that until I brought it all in and then

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it feels like a bomb went

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Speaker 1: off every day. Maybe maybe I need to take baby steps.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was whimsical. I appreciated it. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: were also like painting in your trailer. I'd come in

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Speaker 1: and there'd be like water colors out. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what are you amazing? Yeah? Hello, and craps and sewing

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Speaker 1: and all kinds of all kinds of fun stuff. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep your brain busy, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's a lot of sitting around. So I

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Speaker 1: love it. Alright, guys, well that hit too close to home.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, everybody, We'll see it. We'll see you

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