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Speaker 1: What's up you guys are listening to a Velvet Edge podcast.

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Speaker 1: I am here with Dr Roy vong Toma. I have

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Speaker 1: to really like focus the last night you got it

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Speaker 1: the wonga okay, and you're a radiation oncologists in l A.

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Speaker 1: I'm in l A by the way. For everyone listening, okay,

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Speaker 1: can you explain to everyone what that is? Okay? Radiation

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Speaker 1: oncologist is a cancer therapist that uses technology like m RI,

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Speaker 1: pet scan and CT scan to um focus high energy

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Speaker 1: radiation two tumors in the body. Um So we work

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Speaker 1: with all sorts of cancer. So people are going to

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Speaker 1: be specialized in cancer. Well, actually we specialized in like

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Speaker 1: a modality meaning radiation. So basically, if you had to

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Speaker 1: have breast cancer, where we use radiation to help decrease

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Speaker 1: the local recurrence in the breast, So we treat either

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Speaker 1: a part of the breast to the whole breast after

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Speaker 1: you had surgery. Okay, so it's after you have surgery

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Speaker 1: to remove the cancer, and it just kind of makes

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Speaker 1: sure there's nothing exactly what's the difference between that and

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Speaker 1: chemo though, well chemo, so radiation is a local treatment,

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Speaker 1: so only works where aiming the beam like naming the

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Speaker 1: that area and we only deal with that area. But

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Speaker 1: chemo is theoretically supposed to affect the whole body, right,

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Speaker 1: So like if your cancer at spread, you would probably

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Speaker 1: get treated with chema. Well sometimes if you think it

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Speaker 1: might spread, then you'd give chemo anyway too. So there's

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Speaker 1: you know, um, there's certain cases where you do both. Like,

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Speaker 1: for example, we're talking about breast cancer already. So so

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Speaker 1: for most if you're like a little bit higher risk,

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Speaker 1: you'll get surgery, then you'll get chemo to deal with

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Speaker 1: systemic um possible spread, and then you'd get radiation to

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Speaker 1: deal with the local Yeah, exactly, got it. So what

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Speaker 1: you specialize in is the radiation exact it? Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: we've we've found each other through my friend Annie Saltires,

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Speaker 1: who have also done a podcast with she's a stylist

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Speaker 1: here in l A. And we talked about on our

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Speaker 1: she gave me all the permission to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but she said that in her journey with that, you

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Speaker 1: were just life changing, and you have been because she

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Speaker 1: went to you and you were treating her with radiation,

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Speaker 1: but you said, she said, the two things you said

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Speaker 1: be enough. So you've got to change your diet, you've

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Speaker 1: got to meditate, and if you have anything emotional, you

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Speaker 1: have to fix it. Do you remember saying that? Yea,

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Speaker 1: And she said just started crying. She was like, I

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Speaker 1: have so much. Yeah, she's she's really she's very dynamic

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Speaker 1: as a person, is you know? Um? So you know

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Speaker 1: most people. Yeah, I did say something like that to her. Um,

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Speaker 1: most people. Here's the thing. Most people don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear that they have to do something, they have to

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Speaker 1: take ownership. So there's actually clearly restraint. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: because if you think about it, your habits and all

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, so you're getting radiation, you know

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Speaker 1: And they're like like, like what and I'm like, well, like, where,

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Speaker 1: they'll be like, I have to eat salad. Okay. So

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Speaker 1: was like yeah, okay. So for those people who are

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Speaker 1: listening and like are on that tip, it's all about ownership,

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Speaker 1: out called Healing Before You're Cured that's basically exactly that.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, um, you gotta if you want to,

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Speaker 1: if you had trauma in in your childhood, um, it

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Speaker 1: doubles the risk of your cancer. Really, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: fascinating thing, But I have to backtack for a second

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Speaker 1: how did you even what made you want to look

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Speaker 1: at both sides of that. Well, my whole family is

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Speaker 1: cancer doctors. I grew up, like my friend said to me, goes,

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Speaker 1: when I think of cancer, I think of you, Like

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Speaker 1: I was like, I think so, but um, basically I

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Speaker 1: So but then I'd see like his the guy. So

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Speaker 1: So I started, even at a young age, I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: combine the two to why wouldn't you think about it? Like,

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Speaker 1: why would you go to buffet and only eat the meat?

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Speaker 1: the spiritual affect of this, Like you can't buy in

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Speaker 1: I have to have you know, some people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: What is that from? Like just holding stress in your body?

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Speaker 1: But it's still in you. Something bad happened to you

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Speaker 1: a it's a feeling that something shouldn't have happened to you.

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Speaker 1: But it's an anger and it's deep. And if you

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Speaker 1: think about what emotion it might be, it might be rage.

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Speaker 1: If you think about what rages, rages this anger that

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Speaker 1: That's rage. Right now, you think of what cancer is,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what cancer is. It's a disease that doesn't

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Speaker 1: so if you look at it that way, then resentment

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Speaker 1: with supplements though, But which need to like leaky guy

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Speaker 1: all kinds of disease, right, Yeah, yeah, so I mean that,

423
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Speaker 1: you know, taking herbs is good, right. The thing is, though,

424
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Speaker 1: I'm more about like, okay, let's let's look at or

425
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: this is good, keep taking them, right, But let's let's

426
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: add let's add patterns. Let's add habits in your body

427
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Speaker 1: that will prevent you from needing to have to take

428
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: exactly you know, your body balances itself out. Yeah. Well yeah.

429
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Speaker 1: So if you, for example, say if you start meditating

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Speaker 1: now because we have this talk or whatever, and you're

431
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Speaker 1: doing oh my god, I keep having the same thought,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, then you pull out your journal. Then you

433
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Speaker 1: start writing about what what is that thought? And you

434
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Speaker 1: just get it out of you. So there is a

435
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Speaker 1: research on journaling. Journaling actually decreases anxiety, decreases stress as well,

436
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 1: of course, to get it out of your body. Yeah,

437
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: that's the thing. So it's not that having stress is

438
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Speaker 1: necessarily bad, it's that we don't allow it to leave.

439
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: You bring the thought in, then you hold it in

440
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 1: your body like about but you never go right. So

441
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: journal is another way to get it out. Exercise another

442
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Speaker 1: way to get up. Sleep is another way, and aitation

443
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Speaker 1: is another way. So I'm just adding another thing into

444
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Speaker 1: your armentarium. The difference is with meditation is that it's

445
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: proven to rewire your brain. It's proven if you can

446
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,239
Speaker 1: start bringing your mind away from those negative thoughts and

447
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: focusing it in a center place. So let's just jump

448
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Speaker 1: to one more thing, since you know we're kind of

449
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: ranging all over the place. But it's not just taking

450
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Speaker 1: your mind off of negative things. It's replacing a negative

451
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Speaker 1: thought with a positive thought. Okay, okay, So can you

452
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Speaker 1: tell us a thought you're having that's repeated that's negative

453
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: about yourself, like this podcast, I'm taking over your podcast? Okay,

454
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: that's negative about myself. I mean, I think I can

455
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: analyze everything about myself. Just think one thought. One thought

456
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Speaker 1: is that you want to share. I't want to share. Um.

457
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Speaker 1: One thought that I've really had a hard time letting

458
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Speaker 1: go of lately is I'm spread tooth things. I stuck

459
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Speaker 1: at everything. Ah. So it's a self worth type of thing,

460
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Speaker 1: like I'm not at this, I'm not good. Okay, So

461
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: let's think of a thought. Let's think so that's the

462
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: negative thought we've come down to, Um, I suck, I

463
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: stuck at this, I'm no good at this. Okay, So

464
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Speaker 1: that's repeated thought going on in your mind. Um. So

465
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Speaker 1: now we know that that thought, as we said before,

466
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Speaker 1: is affecting, affecting your stressful at affecting your gene structure. Okay,

467
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Speaker 1: it's making you unhealthy. You agree with that? Yes? Okay,

468
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Speaker 1: do you agree that we need to change that thought? Yes? Okay,

469
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Speaker 1: so we have buy in from you. Okay, so now

470
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Speaker 1: you have to. I'm gonna help you, though, Let's come

471
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Speaker 1: up with a thought to replace that thought. Well, wouldn't

472
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Speaker 1: it just be the opposite of like, well, what is

473
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Speaker 1: it I'm good at this or I'm I'm enough, I'm

474
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Speaker 1: worthy all of those things? What what one? Okay? Those

475
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Speaker 1: are all really nice? Um? What one actually is true? Though?

476
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: For you? Let me think? Okay, I think I'm enough,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm enough. Yeah, yeah, okay, let's let's see. Let's see

478
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Speaker 1: if we can find day. So, um, how about I'm

479
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Speaker 1: always doing my best? Okay, yes, I'm doing I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the best I can. I'm doing you know, I always

481
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Speaker 1: do my best and something like that. Okay. So um,

482
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm sensing I'm kind of getting from you

483
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Speaker 1: is like you you always do your best. Though I

484
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Speaker 1: want to fight you on that right now. Okay, but

485
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Speaker 1: but you're always trying trying to do yeah. Yeah, I'm

486
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Speaker 1: not talking about perfectionist. I'm talking about doing your best. Yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: I've talked about that a lot. So this is another

488
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Speaker 1: that's another issue. But this particular thought, this particular thought

489
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Speaker 1: though you know, um, so I'm no good, Okay, fine,

490
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Speaker 1: I do I'm I do my I'm doing the best

491
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Speaker 1: I can. I always do my best. Yeah, I always

492
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Speaker 1: trying my hardest. I always do my best. So rewiring

493
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Speaker 1: my brain to think my best. So how about this,

494
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Speaker 1: I'm doing my best, doing my best. So now now

495
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Speaker 1: when you're not, Now, when you have time, just think

496
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Speaker 1: I'm doing my best. But what if you're not doing

497
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Speaker 1: your best. I'm not talking about being perfect. I'm talking

498
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Speaker 1: about doing your best in this particular moment. If you

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Speaker 1: have four hours of sleep, you went out the night before,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing the best I can. I'm doing my best.

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00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm doing the best I can. It's it's changing that

502
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Speaker 1: thought like why why did why didn't I forget the charge?

503
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Speaker 1: You're in the hotel room? What the hell is wrong

504
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: with me? I'm doing the best I can? Right, So

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like changing those thoughts around and giving

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Speaker 1: yourself an affirmation instead of a positive affirmation, instead of

507
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Speaker 1: a negative affirmation. So it's replacing these thoughts and giving

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Speaker 1: yourself a positive one. Meditation will will flatten out the

509
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Speaker 1: negative one. But if you think about your your thought

510
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Speaker 1: processes are like electrical patterns in your brain. So if

511
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Speaker 1: you're if your thought is always going to this one thought,

512
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Speaker 1: you're creating a well worn path in your brain. I'm

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Speaker 1: making circles in my hand. We want now. It's creating

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Speaker 1: a momentum of the thought. So if you're ever in

515
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Speaker 1: that situation, you're constantly any time you're in that situation

516
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Speaker 1: where you're not doing something perfect, you keep thinking this thought. Yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: it's just always going. So you created a huge momentum

518
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Speaker 1: of this neuronal pattern. Now I'm telling you we need

519
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Speaker 1: to create a new pattern in place of that. It's

520
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna take time because there's no path for it. It's

521
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: like if you're going through the forest and you're trying

522
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Speaker 1: to make a path. It's gonna take time. But you

523
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Speaker 1: just got to think, like, I'm doing my best. We

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Speaker 1: do the best I can do the best just rewiring

525
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Speaker 1: rewiring your brain. You're rewiring your brain. I'm doing the

526
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Speaker 1: best I can. You know, I'm pretty good at this.

527
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Speaker 1: I'm doing the best I can. And then your mind

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Speaker 1: will go There's another thing I talked about called the terrorist.

529
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Speaker 1: You have a terrorist in your brain that's constantly telling

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Speaker 1: you that's making you like afraid all the time. That's

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Speaker 1: that's something you have to look at and pull out

532
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Speaker 1: and is that true? Is that true? Do I really suck? Okay?

533
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Speaker 1: Do I really suck? Do I? Let's let's look at

534
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: the evidence. So now you get into a mental emotional

535
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Speaker 1: connection cognitive behavioral therapy, behavioral techniques like you look and say,

536
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Speaker 1: is this true? Do I suck? If I sucked, then

537
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Speaker 1: how is all these good things happening? If I really sucked?

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Speaker 1: So then it's like breaking let your mind think those

539
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: and it's okay, okay, let's see is it true? Do

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Speaker 1: I suck? Am I a piece of crap? You know?

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Speaker 1: I get to travel, I'm traveling from I have great friends,

542
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Speaker 1: I have great relationships. I love my job. So how

543
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Speaker 1: do I really suck? You don't. There's no evidence for

544
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: It's just this crazy thing that's happening. So it's like

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00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: breaking that down. Meditation helps you see those things because

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00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you actually stop and think, you're stopping and seeing, you're

547
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: stopping and seeing the powers. You may not stop thinking,

548
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: you may see the thoughts that you have and then

549
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: by breathing. You're you're you're starting to relax and doing

550
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Speaker 1: the tense and relax the thing that we did. You're

551
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Speaker 1: letting go of the physical tension. You're just letting yourself

552
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Speaker 1: go right even right now, you don't want to do it.

553
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Your arms across, my legs across. Yeah, so it's your

554
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: subconsciousness like this is no, no, no, this is not

555
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Speaker 1: how we do this. This is not how we do this.

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Speaker 1: We we we we you're you know, we're we gotta

557
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Speaker 1: do this. Yeah. Right, so you you crossed your stomach

558
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Speaker 1: protecting this this core part. You crossed your legs so weird.

559
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Speaker 1: I don't even realized I did that. Yeah, because we

560
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Speaker 1: hit something that's like, this is quart of who you

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Speaker 1: think you are, you know, Oh my gosh. You do

562
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Speaker 1: you break this down on the book, you say, so

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Speaker 1: your beliefs are basically you do need western medicine, of course,

564
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: but then also you need to supplement with these other

565
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: things you both your body, you both and then you

566
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Speaker 1: break it down with meditation all of these things. And

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Speaker 1: then what about food, like do you do you recommend

568
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Speaker 1: a specific diet to people? Okay, so I mean food

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Speaker 1: is like you know, people when they talk, like into

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Speaker 1: public talks. People always they ask about his food. Yeah,

571
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: at the end they're like, well, what about what about greens?

572
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, greens are great, are great? Well? How much

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Speaker 1: should I eat? I'm like enough? Every everybody focuses on

574
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Speaker 1: the physical, you know, and the physical is the result

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Speaker 1: of other things deeper than that. What do you mean?

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Speaker 1: Like why are you eating what you're eating? Why do

577
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Speaker 1: you eat? Why do you eat so much of that?

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00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Why are you constantly why

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Speaker 1: do you have an out of time to eat that

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Speaker 1: you're always eating McDonald's, right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So I'm more focused on that you want to go

582
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: to in fishness, they can give you advice. I mean, granted,

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Speaker 1: there's things you need to eat for like anti cancer,

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Speaker 1: high immunity stuff. Absolutely, absolutely there's you know, um um.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Joel Ferman. He has an acronym called

586
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Speaker 1: gee bombs. That's good for pro immunity, g is greens

587
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: and anti be is berries, oh is, onions and garlic

588
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: and his mushrooms these beans, s is seeds, lost seeds

589
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, gee bombs, that's Joel Ferman. It's not me.

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Speaker 1: But so you know, that's yeah, you can put all

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Speaker 1: those in. But you sure you already know. I don't

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Speaker 1: need to give you a diet to say, eat more

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Speaker 1: green salads, right, stop eating fried food, cut down on

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Speaker 1: the red meat. Right. What about dairy? Yeah? I see

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00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: for me personally, I don't. I don't need dairy. Yeah.

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: So people are like, well, what about my calcium? Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: there's two studies showing that that milk actually over too

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Speaker 1: much milk decreases your bone calcium. So there, So that's

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Speaker 1: why the milk lobby changed. I don't know if they're

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Speaker 1: gonna listen to this, but they change their marketing from

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Speaker 1: got good for your bones to got protein. Check next

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Speaker 1: time you see this has got it, don't claim that anymore.

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00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: It does have a lot of protein, right. There's other

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00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: ways to get protein though, right, But you know I'm

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Speaker 1: also big on like, look, I don't. That's the thing

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Speaker 1: I told you about the data about six months and

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Speaker 1: changing one habit only even with a heart attack can change.

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Speaker 1: So what about somebody who doesn't have that, like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I almost died. I'm saying make a small change.

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Speaker 1: Once you make a small one, your body was like, oh,

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00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: this isn't that bad? Okay? What about Okay, so what

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Speaker 1: if we if I just if you decide right now,

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Speaker 1: say I want to do like five minutes of meditation

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I was going to try to in for seven,

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Speaker 1: But should I just start small? Start small? I started

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Speaker 1: with a minute. I couldn't do a minute. Really you can,

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Speaker 1: because that's why I'm like, I'm set a timer for

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Speaker 1: a minute. Okay, do a minute for two weeks, two

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Speaker 1: times a day a minute or which just whatever whatever.

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Speaker 1: You can just try for a minute for a minute.

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Speaker 1: What do you think if I can do it for

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Speaker 1: two weeks? Yeah, just for two weeks and okay, then

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Speaker 1: I'll do two minutes. How long did they say it

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Speaker 1: takes to form a habit? Do you know? Yeah, well

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Speaker 1: there's there's different, there's different. It takes a long time

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Speaker 1: to change habits, no question about it. But you can

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Speaker 1: if you start small. And that the problem is people

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Speaker 1: try to do too much. Yeah, you know. So if

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Speaker 1: you're going to change your diet, for example, don't cut

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Speaker 1: up dairy. Yeah. I don't cut out things, I say

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Speaker 1: add things. So if you're a really really horrible you know,

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Speaker 1: then eat a carrot to day, just eating carrot, just

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Speaker 1: or baby carrot. Get a bag of baby carrots, eat

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Speaker 1: one day for the until the bag is gone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't that bad. Then maybe I'll have a small

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Speaker 1: salad with lunch. Then do two weeks of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard though, to do that, right, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna forget because your body is gonna be like, you

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Speaker 1: know what, should I have a small salad or French

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Speaker 1: fries at the same price, I can add a small

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Speaker 1: salad or fries. That's a big decision. If you're at lunch.

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Speaker 1: Fries are good, sweet potato fries, right, So for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, Okay, I'll have fries once a week,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have a salad with it, so then

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Speaker 1: I'll always have salad. I'll always do the sal Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So when did your book actually come out? It's not

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Speaker 1: out yet. People want to get on my mailing list.

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00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 1: It's coming out. I'll have audio book, e book, and book.

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Speaker 1: If you go to the Houses of Health dot com,

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Speaker 1: that's you can get on my mail list and then

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Speaker 1: I'll send you the link and um or you just

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Speaker 1: if you put yeah, that's probably the best way. The

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Speaker 1: Houses of Health dot com Right now, and then I

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Speaker 1: have a I have an Instagram page Healing before Cure.

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Speaker 1: Then I have a Facebook page Healing before Cure. So

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Speaker 1: I'm on both of those things. So amazing. 're just

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Speaker 1: all launching now. Yeah, super exciting, Thank you. So because

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, what do you recommend

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Speaker 1: for a person who's not sick or struggling, Like, what

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Speaker 1: is the best tip you would give somebody? But I

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Speaker 1: think it's just starts small, right, It starts small and

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Speaker 1: and pick the area. So like my my paradigm has

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Speaker 1: four houses physical, mental, emotional, spiritual. If you're already exercising

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Speaker 1: and doing then you don't need to worry about that.

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Speaker 1: Pick a house that you don't do you don't you

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Speaker 1: don't do anything about. Yeah. So so for example, like

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Speaker 1: say you're already been talking meditation, do one minute for

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Speaker 1: two weeks? Do one minute started dreading it like the

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Speaker 1: second you say like an anxiety, Yeah that's fine, So

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Speaker 1: that means you needed that, So go towards the fear

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Speaker 1: helen and all right. If they all say, um, what

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Speaker 1: was the last thing I wanted to ask you? When

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Speaker 1: does your book come out? Oh, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about like where people can go donate because this is

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Speaker 1: Breast Cancer Awareness Month in October, and so that was

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Speaker 1: why I wanted to have you one today since that's

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Speaker 1: what you deal a lot with. Where do you recommend

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Speaker 1: people go donate or if they want to give back

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Speaker 1: because obviously breast cancer has taken over our world. Yes, there's, um,

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Speaker 1: you know one organization I like is called Helen's Room. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's called Helen's Room. You can Helen's Room dot com

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Speaker 1: their nonprofit. You can do you can text the DUC.

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Speaker 1: But they basically have a room where women can go

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Speaker 1: in and get styled for hair loss if they go

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Speaker 1: through chemotherapy. So they get yeah, they get wigs, it

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Speaker 1: can get hats, they can get scarves, they can get

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Speaker 1: whatever they want. And I think it's a really cool

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Speaker 1: way of turning like making lemonade at the Lemons. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that Helen's Room dot Com. Um, I think that's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to give back in that way because they have

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Speaker 1: tons of research happening already. Right. Sure, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. So I'm gonna try to say your name

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Speaker 1: one more time, Doctor Vanatma, got it. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for doing this. It was so interesting. I could

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Speaker 1: talk to you all day about this. I'm gonna practice

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Speaker 1: my meditating and i'll keep you guys posted. Um, all right,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and everybody go check out Dr vankama

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