Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna and Kevin An.
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio podcast. I'm Jenna, I'm Kevin, and this is and
Speaker 1: that's what you really missed. I wasn't gonna eat the
Speaker 1: opportunity to say some other version hijacked what this show is.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of it. It's fine. It's
Speaker 1: great to be here with you, Jenna. This is great
Speaker 1: to be here with you. This is very exciting. This is,
Speaker 1: you know, another big episode for Argentina. It's right, yeah,
Speaker 1: these are our favorites because we can talk about ourselves, right,
Speaker 1: so much fun. This was a really fun one, especially
Speaker 1: because we get to see Kevin Dean. Yes, and I
Speaker 1: wish I went when we get to it, I want
Speaker 1: to get some fan reaction. I want them to write
Speaker 1: in and tell us what they thought, because I have questions.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So this episode is season one, episode nineteen,
Speaker 1: dream On. It originally aired on May eighteenth, twenty ten,
Speaker 1: which was almost to the day, the year anniversary of
Speaker 1: the pilot premiering after the American Idol finale and how
Speaker 1: far we've come? How far? Like you know, Ryan said,
Speaker 1: I remember after one of those initial parties, after the
Speaker 1: premiere who I think Chris and Chenowith asked him, like,
Speaker 1: oh well, Kevin never like get up and sing and dance.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, that's never going to happen. I remember
Speaker 1: that yep cut. Two year later, here I am. We
Speaker 1: are dancing tales oldest time. Don't put the idea in
Speaker 1: Ryan's head because he doesn't forget. I also watched a
Speaker 1: little bit of the Glee tour last night online and
Speaker 1: he brought back a lot of memories. Now I remember
Speaker 1: the songs that we performed because the other one is
Speaker 1: fresher in my mind. So this was a good good
Speaker 1: I was like, I forgot they did boys mine. I
Speaker 1: forgot they did we did too jobs. I forgot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't do as many shows, so the other one
Speaker 1: was much more ingrained in our bodies. That's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: So this time, so this was the anniversary and May
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty second, we kicked off our first three
Speaker 1: our three night gig at the Gibson rip Amphitheater at
Speaker 1: Universal CityWalk, and that was fun because we were on
Speaker 1: home turf. It was nice to be sleeping in your
Speaker 1: own bed and then going to the theater or the
Speaker 1: right as a theater and performing the show and it
Speaker 1: was just such a fun, fun experience to be back
Speaker 1: at home. And if you go to Universal Studios in
Speaker 1: La now that's now Hogwarts, That's right. So the Gibson
Speaker 1: got knocked down to become Hogwarts. So whatever do you remember, though, Kevin?
Speaker 1: In between shows one day we asked them I think
Speaker 1: it was Amber who was like, can we go on
Speaker 1: some of the rides? And they were like, um, maybe,
Speaker 1: and we were like, we all want to go on
Speaker 1: our rights And then we started bugging everybody and they
Speaker 1: got security to take us to like the back lot
Speaker 1: tour and we we did Jurassic Park, right, I think
Speaker 1: we Jurassic Park. We yep, Mommy was a big one.
Speaker 1: We didn't we do the studio a lot tours? Did
Speaker 1: we do that? I don't remember. Yeah, we were very excited.
Speaker 1: Were we doing matinees? I think we had done to
Speaker 1: a two day, two show day to day do two
Speaker 1: doche there we go there is yeah, which I know.
Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Curtis said she wishes bands would do matinee's
Speaker 1: on the performance side of it personally when you have
Speaker 1: so normally cats don't have matinees on both glee tours.
Speaker 1: We had matinees because they were really trying to get
Speaker 1: their money's worth for the allotted time they had us
Speaker 1: under contract. Tell me what the audiences were like, Kevin, Look,
Speaker 1: it's not just on our end doing a matinee. And
Speaker 1: you can talk about this Janet as doing theater. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where it is a slog to get your body geared
Speaker 1: up to be at a ten by one pm. Correct,
Speaker 1: because and especially when you're doing music or doing a concert,
Speaker 1: you people normally make music late at night. It is
Speaker 1: very much a nighttime thing. People are out there drinking
Speaker 1: or doing whatever. And you feel that when you're on
Speaker 1: stage because the audience reacts completely differently and nine times
Speaker 1: out of ten and audience in the middle of the
Speaker 1: day also feels that way. And so when you're on stage,
Speaker 1: you're feeding off what the audience is giving you and
Speaker 1: at one pm they're not giving you a ten. I
Speaker 1: can turn that. I will say as a mom Aftu
Speaker 1: concert sound lightful. No, Logistically it makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: and especially for children's concerts, Yes, But performance and energy wise,
Speaker 1: it's brutal. It's brutal. It is brutal, and especially because
Speaker 1: if you've done a show the night before. That's a
Speaker 1: half of the time of the turnaround you normally, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're flemmy, you're tired, it's still light out. There's just
Speaker 1: a lot of things, so I know, when the sun
Speaker 1: goes down, it's it's time to go, like you're you're
Speaker 1: ready to go, And when the sun's up mid day,
Speaker 1: like you just had lunch and you're gonna go, it's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree. However, I will say this was a different tour,
Speaker 1: but Toronto. If there's anybody in Toronto listening, greatest of
Speaker 1: all time matinee crowd, yea we had they brought to
Speaker 1: matinees and yes, if that matinee was not louder than
Speaker 1: any of the evening shows because they were bringing it.
Speaker 1: And I think if you look somewhere on YouTube, I
Speaker 1: think I mentioned that as well. Well. The Canadians are
Speaker 1: just nice people, so they give us what we need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, all right. So that was the tour where
Speaker 1: there will be more tour later and um okay, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of notes for this this episode, just
Speaker 1: because there's so many memories that I didn't want to forget. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right. This episode was directed by Joss Wheden. This
Speaker 1: was pre Avengers right very early like post Buffy, Yes, um,
Speaker 1: what was the other? It was shortly after this where
Speaker 1: he sort of took all those first two Avenger movies
Speaker 1: character movies and then he crafted what we know today
Speaker 1: to be the Avengers and did the first Avenger movie.
Speaker 1: And he also was very musical. He was a very
Speaker 1: musical guy. So this was like, you know, just directorially,
Speaker 1: like right up his alley. And we also had he
Speaker 1: interacted with us very differently than any director had up
Speaker 1: to this point. This was our nineteenth episode, and so
Speaker 1: we sort of had a rhythm. We had a series
Speaker 1: of the same directors coming right now. And when he
Speaker 1: came in, because you and I had also like a
Speaker 1: lot of sensitive scenes in this that he do you
Speaker 1: remember this? He came to base camp, he pulled us
Speaker 1: out for a acting rehearsal which never happened never, and
Speaker 1: took us up to the dance studio of the Tin
Speaker 1: Shed and we worked on that scene with the tapping
Speaker 1: and where you fall. Yeah, And he just showed so
Speaker 1: much care and thoughtfulness, and I think you're able to
Speaker 1: do that when you're just coming in for one episode
Speaker 1: like this and you have the time to plan and
Speaker 1: do it, and the script is written. And I was
Speaker 1: going to say, clearly the script was on time, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, we'll get to that. Uh, this is a
Speaker 1: big episode. There's a lot happening. Brian Ryan is here,
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Harris, who Josh has worked with UM
Speaker 1: in other things, and Um, Kevin is a dance and
Speaker 1: Shelby Corkoran has lots to do Our Greenwitch, Dinna man
Speaker 1: zeal And. Yeah. So the songs in this episode are
Speaker 1: dream On by Aerosmith wild Um, the Safety Dance Dance
Speaker 1: by Men Without Hats, and I dreamed a dream by
Speaker 1: the castline. It's very exciting. And then dream a little dream.
Speaker 1: That's right, Dream a little dream, Kevin. You had a lot,
Speaker 1: a lot of recording to do, and this I did.
Speaker 1: But it was one afternoon actually, oh it was one
Speaker 1: evening pre a Glee dinner at the Chateau Marmont. Oh really, yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty usual. I had a slight meltdown, which you know standard. Um.
Speaker 1: Both my voice just didn't feel great, you know, some
Speaker 1: days it just doesn't feel great. And yeah, and I
Speaker 1: did Safety Dance first, and because actually it was sort
Speaker 1: of like talking, it was harder. It was harsher on
Speaker 1: my voice, I think, and then you get into this
Speaker 1: really soft and you're like, oh well my voice is
Speaker 1: now gone. So but I was really excited. I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Amber at that dinner about how I was
Speaker 1: trying to make Dreamy Little dream Um sound older, you know,
Speaker 1: like do a different vibrato and things like that. I
Speaker 1: was very excited for the vocal challenge. It was okay,
Speaker 1: it was a great little number. Also, is that just
Speaker 1: the most like sampled and used song now and everything?
Speaker 1: I think every commercial I hear in every restaurant, It's
Speaker 1: just everywhere. There's a billion different versions of it. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a great there's an episode summary. Do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about it? Sure? So, Will's former high school
Speaker 1: nemesis classic Brian Ryan shows up and causes some trouble
Speaker 1: for the glee club. Mm hmmm, that's no good. Then
Speaker 1: Rachel struggles with a lifelong personal issue, plus Artientina your
Speaker 1: favorites try to find a way for Artie to live
Speaker 1: his dream of walking again. Oh well dancing really right,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. So let's get into it. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Brian Ryan. Let's talk about Brian Ryan. Um,
Speaker 1: so we learned that that's Will's arch and ousts from
Speaker 1: high school and he just happens to be on the
Speaker 1: school board and he wants to cut the glee club. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants to cut the glee club. He has to
Speaker 1: cut funding from the arts somewhere, from some extracurricular thing,
Speaker 1: and obviously, because he hates Will, it's most likely going
Speaker 1: to come from there, that's right. So he comes in
Speaker 1: and he talks to all of us and the a
Speaker 1: choir room scene where he says, you know, most of
Speaker 1: you probably want to pursue this and want to do this,
Speaker 1: and you know you shouldn't. You you shouldn't because you're
Speaker 1: not going to succeed. He's a drein killer. He had
Speaker 1: us actually write down on pieces of paper what it
Speaker 1: is we want already obviously wrote he wants to dance.
Speaker 1: What were some of the other ones? Um, I have
Speaker 1: a threesome, not have stretch marks, and and then Tina.
Speaker 1: He breaks Tina basically yeah, and this was the first
Speaker 1: time that I had to cry. This is one of
Speaker 1: the first of many that will come. See, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: You do something and you do it too well, that's right,
Speaker 1: and they're just gonna keep having you do it because
Speaker 1: Tina cried one time and she never stopped crying. Run
Speaker 1: it into the ground. We did, Yes, that's we did.
Speaker 1: It's also not that easy for me to cry on you,
Speaker 1: like I can do it, but it takes a while
Speaker 1: for me to get there. So this was not something
Speaker 1: that was like in my back pocket, like I could
Speaker 1: cry out of one eye like Rachel Barry. But anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the beginning of that. So Will is like, what boo,
Speaker 1: he's Brian, Ryan's wrong. So I just had a memory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you remember when we filmed this, Neil Patrick Harris
Speaker 1: had hosted the Oscars the day before. Well, this was
Speaker 1: also the one when we want to the parties the
Speaker 1: night before, so everyone it was so if you go
Speaker 1: watch that scene, Neil Patrick Harris looking fresh and rested, glowing,
Speaker 1: had hosted the Oscars, the biggest award ceremony of the year,
Speaker 1: and everybody, including him and us, we're out pretty late,
Speaker 1: not party, praying, partying or drinking water. Yeah, no, we were.
Speaker 1: And Mondays is the earliest call. So normally on Mondays
Speaker 1: you have like a girls have like a five thirty
Speaker 1: am call. We were there, and we were in that
Speaker 1: choir room. That was the first team we did with them.
Speaker 1: It was the jacket one, right, yeah, first up, first
Speaker 1: up for him and for Joss and for everybody. We
Speaker 1: were just looking puffy. Neil Patrick Harris got an Emmy
Speaker 1: for this, so he's fine. And he did great, like
Speaker 1: he looked glowy. Um. Yes, good memories though. I remember
Speaker 1: sitting there being like, how is he doing this? I
Speaker 1: know we were like I I have no lines and
Speaker 1: I'm barely truly, I think I think there was somebody
Speaker 1: they will rename, real name, will remain Wow, Okay, they
Speaker 1: will remain nameless. You try and say that um fell
Speaker 1: asleep on the back wall. So this is why I remember.
Speaker 1: Because there is a shot of us and somebody looks
Speaker 1: very sleepy, more sleepy than the others. And yea, she
Speaker 1: her eyes were barely. She loves to dance. She does
Speaker 1: love to dance. She loves to dance. There's a couple
Speaker 1: of girls who would regularly fall asleep in all right,
Speaker 1: So they go they go to a bar, right, they
Speaker 1: go to the bar. Umar because Weill was just like, look,
Speaker 1: you're wrong about this. I remember how good you or
Speaker 1: like and let me take you out and refresh your
Speaker 1: memory about how rewarding this is. Like, let me just
Speaker 1: remind you. And so Will takes him out to this bar,
Speaker 1: reminds him how they used to sing together. Will and
Speaker 1: Brian talk about their crushes and Brian's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love that Terry Delmonico girl, and He's like, oh I
Speaker 1: married her. What a last name? Right? It also makes
Speaker 1: me hungry for steak. Um. And then and then they
Speaker 1: do this. You know, there was a lot of live
Speaker 1: singing in this episode that never happens. So when they
Speaker 1: are when Neil Patrick Harris is singing in the flashback scene, um,
Speaker 1: he is singing live. And then when they go to
Speaker 1: the bar and they do Piano Man, they're singing live again.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yes, I have these musical theater pros
Speaker 1: sing live because they sound incredible. Do you know why
Speaker 1: was that just the request or was that Joss or
Speaker 1: what do you remember? I'm not sure, but I think
Speaker 1: it's because they're singing to track, like they're singing over
Speaker 1: like piano Man was singing to the actual song. Right,
Speaker 1: it's not supposed to sound super predict no, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it sounds great and that could have been a Jos thing.
Speaker 1: Jos was very much about. Even though he's famous for
Speaker 1: doing sci fi shows, he was very much into grounding
Speaker 1: this show correct. So then you know, Brian Ryan and
Speaker 1: Will hit it off, and it was like, look, they're
Speaker 1: doing lay miscasting. You should audition with me because I'm
Speaker 1: going to audition, Like, let's reignite this flame. So they
Speaker 1: go to audition for it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: their nice little moment, you know, the reprieve of hating
Speaker 1: each other is ended because they realized they're doing the
Speaker 1: same audition song, and so we get a very good duet.
Speaker 1: Brian Ryan copies Will. Yes, It's like, that's funny, I'm
Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, that's funny, I'm doing that. And then
Speaker 1: the guy says do it as a duet, which would
Speaker 1: never happen. But I feel honored to have watched that number.
Speaker 1: It's wild. That is a crazy high song. And it
Speaker 1: made me think of something that Ryan said in our
Speaker 1: last interview with him, where people forgot that the show
Speaker 1: was a satire. Right, you know, you watch a lot
Speaker 1: of it and you take it so seriously, like why
Speaker 1: are they doing this? Watch Will Schuster and Brian Ryan
Speaker 1: do this number like Matt with his hand over his face.
Speaker 1: This show is a satire people, right, that's right, that's right,
Speaker 1: And it is very much like a local theater thing,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I run the dry cleaners. You have thirty minutes?
Speaker 1: Like can we I don't care? Can we just do this?
Speaker 1: You guys like who? So they do this incredible number.
Speaker 1: I also found out my boyfriend Austin performed this version
Speaker 1: of this song in high school with his theater rival. No,
Speaker 1: He's like, I did this song in high school. Lets
Speaker 1: do it? I was like, was it this version? And
Speaker 1: then we were watching it together and he started doing
Speaker 1: the ad libs the Glee version ads like, oh, so
Speaker 1: what was this version? Because I guess so, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't you're doing the Glee versions. Oh that's
Speaker 1: so sad, and I'm so sorry that he had to.
Speaker 1: That was it? Yeah? So Brian and Sue, um, we're
Speaker 1: supposed to be like we're Cotton Glee Club. We've both
Speaker 1: were taking him down. We're taking the Little Shoester down.
Speaker 1: But Brian Ryan decides he changes his mind and decides
Speaker 1: to cut some of the Cheerio's budget instead, and Sue
Speaker 1: tells will U that he got the lead in lay
Speaker 1: Miss in front of the glee club and in front
Speaker 1: of Brian and Ryan, embarrassing his ass. And Brian got
Speaker 1: a townspeople role, which I will say I played a
Speaker 1: townsperson in Lame is my freshman year of high school. Yes, um,
Speaker 1: and so Ray who Ray? Ray? So good? Um? But
Speaker 1: then what was the quote? He says to Brian says
Speaker 1: to Sue, you're an impressive woman. I can't tell how
Speaker 1: much she turned me on right now. You ever heard
Speaker 1: of the term anger sex? And she says it's the
Speaker 1: only kind I know. Brian. Brian says, I should tell
Speaker 1: you I'm married, as she says, not a problem for me. Um.
Speaker 1: So Brian decides to cut the program because he gets
Speaker 1: mad it Will Um forgetting the part, and then we
Speaker 1: bribe him essentially without doing it, and Will gives Brian
Speaker 1: Ryan the part Jeanjean so that he can save his
Speaker 1: preciously clan and then we're back to square one like
Speaker 1: it never happened. It's a one off. Okay, he's not
Speaker 1: available for any other traps. MPa just needed that guest star, Immy,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like calls his agent's look, I need
Speaker 1: a guest star. I mean which show, yes, but like
Speaker 1: we know the one. So the other thing. One of
Speaker 1: the other things that's going on this episode is during
Speaker 1: that classroom scene where Brian Ryan is having everyone write
Speaker 1: down their dreams, Artie writes and he wants to become
Speaker 1: a dancer because Tina took it out of the trash
Speaker 1: bin when I wanted to get my book bag. By
Speaker 1: the way, who calls it a book bag. It's like
Speaker 1: a pocket book. Yeah, that sounds like a Long Island thing.
Speaker 1: All right, sorry to interrupt you, No, you're good. And
Speaker 1: so Tina is like, come on, fess up, what's the
Speaker 1: situation here? Why first of all, to do lie about
Speaker 1: wanting to be an answer because that's not what already
Speaker 1: said originally, And then she's like, I got the proof.
Speaker 1: I have the receipts for you. And so then they
Speaker 1: get together and she's trying to help him live this
Speaker 1: fantasy and they decide to do a tap number with
Speaker 1: the little tapping things on the wheels, which, oh, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really work. The thing about a wheel is that
Speaker 1: it needs to be round, and to think about adding
Speaker 1: the little tapper things on is that they're not. And
Speaker 1: so it was were not the most practical, well thing,
Speaker 1: do you remember what? So this was. I'm glad it
Speaker 1: turned out this way. But initially Zach had said to
Speaker 1: the writer's room, what if we have Tina do a
Speaker 1: sexy tap number with like canes and top hats and
Speaker 1: have her and tap around. Now, I'm not the best tapper,
Speaker 1: but I can take it till I make it in
Speaker 1: an audition. You don't have to look like you're doing it.
Speaker 1: And it turned into this, it actually was, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to dream. We'll dream of me. That's a soft
Speaker 1: shoe number. That's not a tap number. That was a
Speaker 1: soft shoe number. I don't have taps on my shoes
Speaker 1: and neither do Harry. But anyway, it's supposed to look
Speaker 1: like it. That's movie magic. For the storyline, Yeah, for
Speaker 1: the storyline regardless. I'm happy that this worked out because
Speaker 1: you get to dance. But um so, so you're tapping,
Speaker 1: You're trying to tap. Tina's trying to help you live
Speaker 1: out your dreams of being a dancer, and and you're like,
Speaker 1: I can do it, I can walk, I can get
Speaker 1: up and use these things from I have some crushes
Speaker 1: laying around, right, don't worry about it right, and you
Speaker 1: fall and it's really sad. I was really insecure about
Speaker 1: filming this scene, and so when Joss made us rehearse this,
Speaker 1: I was also, you know, is that thing that I
Speaker 1: was dreading the one scene in the script I didn't
Speaker 1: want to do. I didn't feel confident in my acting
Speaker 1: ability to be emotional and dramatic comedy is much more
Speaker 1: comfortable for me to live in the seriousness, especially when
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by so many good dramatic actors. When you
Speaker 1: are in a scene and Chris colfor can just cry
Speaker 1: and is so good, and I remember talking to Dante,
Speaker 1: one of the producers, being like, oh, I think that
Speaker 1: take was bad, and he had to sort of talk
Speaker 1: me off the ledge and he was like, do you
Speaker 1: think Chris is better than you because he can cry?
Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, he's better than me, because
Speaker 1: he's better than me. And while I do think he
Speaker 1: is much better than me, Dante said something as executive
Speaker 1: producers sort of you need to step in and do
Speaker 1: these things every now and then and calm your actor
Speaker 1: headcase down, which was me, and you know, just gave
Speaker 1: me some nice notes of being like, no, that's not
Speaker 1: how this works. You're bringing this, this and this and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and Joss equally was the sweet about it. Yep,
Speaker 1: and like, because it was a really sensitive dramatic scene,
Speaker 1: Joss would come in and talk like this and he
Speaker 1: would just he would get down when I was on
Speaker 1: the floor, he would he would get down on his
Speaker 1: knees and like just whisper in my ears like okay,
Speaker 1: I'll try this, and would just say a word. And
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy right now, but when you're doing those
Speaker 1: scenes and you're sowing your head and you're in the
Speaker 1: moment and you're doing it over and over again, you're like,
Speaker 1: am I giving enough? I have nothing enough to give?
Speaker 1: And he'll come in and be like just think of
Speaker 1: this and he'll say where you're like, you're right, that
Speaker 1: change and he did that every scene. Great. But we
Speaker 1: got through that scene and I thought you and I
Speaker 1: did a really nice job of this whole episode, Jenna.
Speaker 1: I was really proud of this nice. I thought you
Speaker 1: did a good job. I thought Josh really helped to
Speaker 1: guide us because we were still so green in terms
Speaker 1: of all of this. And now I look at back
Speaker 1: at that and I'm like, I cringe, but at my choices.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't looking at it from a director's point
Speaker 1: of view, which I would now, I was looking at
Speaker 1: it from an actor's point of view, which is like
Speaker 1: totally different. Um I wish I had that, you know,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, that like foresight basically yeah, But um no,
Speaker 1: I thought we did a great job in terms of
Speaker 1: like where we were in our lives and like and
Speaker 1: just having the support we did. I was nervous for
Speaker 1: that number as well, or for that scene in Jos
Speaker 1: would be like is there anything you need? Is there
Speaker 1: anything you need? Which is so nice. Not every actually
Speaker 1: you know director will do that, and especially like crying
Speaker 1: and things like that, like he's like you quiet, you know,
Speaker 1: do you need a quiet on set? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to go off into a corner
Speaker 1: because like there's eighteen other young people who don't have
Speaker 1: to cry that day that are just like laughing and
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff and it's very hard anyway, great job, Kevin. Likewise,
Speaker 1: I think there's also something when we talked about this
Speaker 1: with Paris too, when you know you're in the hands
Speaker 1: of somebody who you can really trust, where like Josh
Speaker 1: had directed so much TV and created so much TV
Speaker 1: that he like he was a TV legend, so we
Speaker 1: knew we were in good hands and could just sort
Speaker 1: of trust him and also be intimidated by him at
Speaker 1: the same time. Totally. Yeah. So Tina is then like, look,
Speaker 1: I've done all this research on spinal cord injuries. You're
Speaker 1: she's really trying to help Artie. And they're at the mall,
Speaker 1: which is really cute. I love that we see people
Speaker 1: at the mall. And then do you remember we filmed
Speaker 1: that shot as actually outside the mall, not at the
Speaker 1: school with those with the school buses and the sunflair.
Speaker 1: I yelled sunflair when I saw it. Josh was so excited.
Speaker 1: It was just one take where we had the sunflair
Speaker 1: just happened to be in the right position at the
Speaker 1: right time. Yep. You know. I have to say watching
Speaker 1: people kiss is really awkward and uncomfortable, and it's not
Speaker 1: a good testament to tell if you're a good kisser.
Speaker 1: I thought ours looked pretty damn good, if I do
Speaker 1: say so much. Solf the that was like, you could
Speaker 1: tell we've done this before. That's not too strangers. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, yeah, God, sorry, um, And so in
Speaker 1: the mall, all of a sudden, this is what I
Speaker 1: want to address. All of a sudden, it goes into
Speaker 1: a dream sequence without acknowledging that it's a dream sequence.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden's like, hey, ye I've been trying
Speaker 1: all those therapies and look and I get up out
Speaker 1: of the wheelchair and I do this line that I
Speaker 1: was like, really I want to do? Is damn? And
Speaker 1: I was. It hit me And I didn't feel this
Speaker 1: obviously when I watched it the first time because I'm
Speaker 1: too biased in it, But like, what the hell did
Speaker 1: people think when that happened all of a sudden? Because
Speaker 1: it looks the same, It looks natural, it looks like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's just getting up. I think that's the idea who
Speaker 1: was supposed to trick? Yeah? Yeah, but were people like
Speaker 1: what the Oh? I'm sure and they're probably really people
Speaker 1: who would get mad that they're like, what, he can
Speaker 1: just get up and ma walk right right? And then
Speaker 1: there were other people who probably were like what this
Speaker 1: is amazing? So yeah, I'm sure, but yes, okay, so
Speaker 1: this is where your questions come in. Yes, I just
Speaker 1: because I really felt for a second of how bamboozled
Speaker 1: or like slapped across the face an audience might feel
Speaker 1: when you're watching that. But I mean, yeah, the mad
Speaker 1: the whole point is is that it does feel like
Speaker 1: it's not a dream sequence until it is. And this
Speaker 1: isn't the craze of the flash mobs. Right in the
Speaker 1: middle of flash mobs being such a huge thing, wedding
Speaker 1: proposals and ye marriage proposals and at schools and malls
Speaker 1: and it was everywhere. And so we did it, and
Speaker 1: Joss had that really cool idea of filming it and
Speaker 1: all these different types of cameras and you see that,
Speaker 1: you see people actually doing it. It felt real. They
Speaker 1: filmed it unreal phones. Like Andrew Mitchell said in that
Speaker 1: interview with him, we filmed it on a mall that
Speaker 1: had like a fish market right off the bottomore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where we were filming, when we were laying on the floor,
Speaker 1: that part we were facing like where the camera was
Speaker 1: in front of the fish market. So where I was
Speaker 1: performing to was directly into this fish market people were
Speaker 1: coming in and out of and it just smelled. It
Speaker 1: smelled so bad. And we shot a couple of things
Speaker 1: at that mall. Buy that fish market did, and it
Speaker 1: was smelly, especially that time. I remember that one especially.
Speaker 1: And then your family was there. Yeah, my mom and
Speaker 1: my sister happened to be in town or I don't know.
Speaker 1: If I coordinated this in advance, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I didn't tell them what we were doing, and I said,
Speaker 1: come to this mall we're shooting. It's easier, you know,
Speaker 1: to have someone visit when we're on location like that,
Speaker 1: because it's a public place. And jes see, and I
Speaker 1: remember them when we were filming down on the floor,
Speaker 1: you didn't see anything else. They were standing up on
Speaker 1: the ledge that you see later on above the escalators, yep.
Speaker 1: And I remember right before take looking up and like
Speaker 1: waving at them and they're just saying hi. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I do the whole huge dance
Speaker 1: number with like eighty billion backup dancers, and after I
Speaker 1: look up at them and they're crying. Oh. They were like,
Speaker 1: you sign up a big us because they know how
Speaker 1: much I love to do that and love to perform
Speaker 1: in that way, and so they were just really excited
Speaker 1: that I got to do it. And I remember watching
Speaker 1: it too. I can tell I'm not confident doing it.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was not used to having the
Speaker 1: attention or spotlight on me. I remember even showing up
Speaker 1: to dance rehearsal. They had a whole because there were
Speaker 1: so many dancers, we had a whole different the same
Speaker 1: sound stage we used to rehearse in for a jump
Speaker 1: to all the mattresses. So we had this gigantic empty
Speaker 1: sound stage, all these dancers, and they were all waiting
Speaker 1: for me to show up because I was also filming.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, staff yeah, and I
Speaker 1: was very, very uncomfortable. I was like, I am very
Speaker 1: happy being supporting Roland. Yeah, give me my two lines
Speaker 1: per episode. I am not used to this. But it
Speaker 1: was fun. It was It was so much fun. It's
Speaker 1: such a great number and we can talk about that
Speaker 1: when we get to the tour. I love that everybody
Speaker 1: was in it too. Yes, I just like all the
Speaker 1: Glee club was in it, and that was so sweet.
Speaker 1: Everyone looks so happy. I don't know if it was acting,
Speaker 1: but it was just fun. It was. We were so
Speaker 1: happy to that you got to dance. We got to
Speaker 1: watch you do that, and we knew how happy you were,
Speaker 1: and it was just a big happy black mom yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great. Then Artady goes to Emma and shares
Speaker 1: the research that her, you know, him and Tina had
Speaker 1: found and he's like, when I start walking again, and
Speaker 1: there's this kind of magical, hopeful thinking. That's very sad,
Speaker 1: and Emma has to kind of take Alreadie back down
Speaker 1: to earth and tell him the truth of like what
Speaker 1: you know, what the reality truly is. And so that
Speaker 1: was really sad. And that leads to Alreadie telling Tina
Speaker 1: in a very sweet scene that she should find a
Speaker 1: new dance partner. And I remember this scene to Joss
Speaker 1: being like this, you should be very quiet, you should
Speaker 1: get down on his level. And yeah, it was very
Speaker 1: specific with his vision. He wasn't forcing anything, but it
Speaker 1: was just very clear. And I remember shooting this and
Speaker 1: and then we go into dream a little dream with
Speaker 1: Tina and Mike Chang, and this is the beginning of
Speaker 1: Tina and Mike chan tell us about your fake tap number,
Speaker 1: your soft shoe number. So this is wasn't my big
Speaker 1: tap sexy tap number. And it turns really sad. Sad,
Speaker 1: She's not sad. I just mean how everybody is acting
Speaker 1: in the scene is really sad. Yeah, everybody has their
Speaker 1: own story line going on. This is a very true
Speaker 1: Colors moment. I guess where everybody's sitting in their little things,
Speaker 1: um semi circle. We rehearse this probably one day, on
Speaker 1: one short day, I think, maybe twice, and it was
Speaker 1: very quick and as Harry's not a tap dancer, No,
Speaker 1: but here's a dancer, and he looks better than I
Speaker 1: do because my arms are swamping arms the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's just very cringey. And that is not my thing,
Speaker 1: like I like express my express yourself, that's my thing.
Speaker 1: Like this was not my thing at all, partnering being
Speaker 1: solo danced. It should have been Heather like me. And
Speaker 1: those are my dance shoes though from college and no way, yeah,
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing and they're not tap shoes. And Zach
Speaker 1: had to go in and in post production and do
Speaker 1: the tapping the sound. It was it all Zach. I
Speaker 1: was wondering who was doing that. It's all Zack. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine how meticulous and draining that must be to
Speaker 1: match up the taps to that number. Well, let me
Speaker 1: tell you it's very We weren't even nearly doing the
Speaker 1: proper tapping anyway, so we really just had to look
Speaker 1: like it. But we didn't learn in the actual taps
Speaker 1: off shoe number. And it's very simple, basic moves. Anybody
Speaker 1: can do it them if I can do them. So
Speaker 1: um anyway, that was the Yeah, it was a very
Speaker 1: quick thing. And I have these pictures from it that
Speaker 1: I can share from Adam Rose, who was our onset photographer,
Speaker 1: who's lovely, and I had some of these rehearsals, but
Speaker 1: I was like, this is annoying because this looks I know,
Speaker 1: I look terrible. I was just really annoyed. But that
Speaker 1: beautiful scene, that beautiful shot at the end of you
Speaker 1: in the foe, you know, in the foreground, and then
Speaker 1: us in the background. It was just really sad. It
Speaker 1: was a movie. It was a movie, and and that's it.
Speaker 1: So wait, but do you remember the line when you
Speaker 1: say I sound like someone put te she's on a
Speaker 1: horse and she. I love that line. And I think
Speaker 1: you and Harry sold the tap dancing, you know whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: give me swamp hands all day. I love it. So
Speaker 1: the only thing that's happening in this episode, there's several
Speaker 1: there's like a reveal within a reveal. It's like when
Speaker 1: a drag queen takes off a wig and there's another
Speaker 1: wig underneath. That's what happens with this storyline. So Jesse
Speaker 1: Saint James, who was on the spring break apparently comes
Speaker 1: back and encourages Rachel to, you know, find her dream.
Speaker 1: What's her dream? She says she wants to find her mom,
Speaker 1: but she doesn't know how. She just knows that her
Speaker 1: dads have information in the basement. So Jesse's like, then
Speaker 1: let's go do it. And so there's this really I
Speaker 1: love the scene of of a trill and Jesse going
Speaker 1: through things, and then Rachel keeps referring to Patti Lapone
Speaker 1: as mother. Well, mother was here on this day. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was a very funny little vignett. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: And then she also talks about how she has a
Speaker 1: theory that her mom is burned at Peter's and like,
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Who wouldn't want them as
Speaker 1: your mom. So while this is happening, they find a
Speaker 1: tape and there and it says from mom, and Rachel's
Speaker 1: like what is this? And she freaks out and she
Speaker 1: can't listen to it, even though Jesse's like, you should
Speaker 1: do it, and he's like, she was like, no, no,
Speaker 1: you need to leave. So then cute I love when
Speaker 1: there's like Mistery Shenanigan's happening. It's raining and it's dark,
Speaker 1: and it's in a car always, it's always raining in
Speaker 1: the car and Jesse comes in the car and who's
Speaker 1: there but Shelby. And then we find out that Shelby
Speaker 1: because the whole thing with Jesse and Rachel is like,
Speaker 1: is this real love? Because in the beginning, where like
Speaker 1: everyone in the glee club is fairly certain that Jesse's
Speaker 1: up to no good, right, and now it's been weeks
Speaker 1: and we've forgotten about it and they do just like
Speaker 1: each other. Right. Nope, this whole thing has been a
Speaker 1: plan of Shelby's because Shelby directed Jesse to go become friends,
Speaker 1: not necessarily become lovers. But Jesse's you know, saying that, well,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's starting to actually have feelings for her.
Speaker 1: And it also turns out that it's Shelby's dream, even
Speaker 1: though she's legally bound to not do this, to somehow
Speaker 1: have Rachel find out she's her mother a wig on
Speaker 1: a wig A reveal after a reveal, And so what
Speaker 1: happens is Jesse goes back to Rachel's and gets her
Speaker 1: to play that damn tape. Well, Shelby's very adamant requests
Speaker 1: to the d yes, so Rachel listens to the day
Speaker 1: and of course we go into some beautiful dream sequence
Speaker 1: of I dreamed a dream, and which is pretty stunning.
Speaker 1: It was and this too wasn't like the big wavy
Speaker 1: um and they do look oddly similar. It's so crazy, um.
Speaker 1: And they basing this beautiful duet of I dreamed a Dream.
Speaker 1: Rachel says, when they're looking through the boxes, this quote, um,
Speaker 1: my first singing competition. I came in first place. And
Speaker 1: Jesse says, you were eight months old, and Rachel says,
Speaker 1: I was very musically vable. I also like when you're
Speaker 1: looking at the sonogram and he says, it looks like
Speaker 1: you're in fifth position. And that's that's dream on, folks.
Speaker 1: That is dream on. What a fun episode to do.
Speaker 1: I also, as an overall creative stylistic note, did this
Speaker 1: episode feel darker in terms of like how it was
Speaker 1: colored or how it was shot? Like the whole thing
Speaker 1: feels darker to me, And I'm wondering if that was
Speaker 1: like a Joss decision. Yes, you definitely, definitely looked a
Speaker 1: bit a little different, right, yeah yeah, yeah, yet so
Speaker 1: Tarty takes Jenna, let's do it. Cringe moments aka Paris
Speaker 1: Berkeley out cheese, I don't know I either. Actually weren't
Speaker 1: that many cringe moments in this episode for me, except
Speaker 1: for in the Brian Ryan storyline. Just the the married
Speaker 1: whole Brian Ryan married Sue thing was kind of like
Speaker 1: the cringeest thing of the episode, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: think that was, um, it's been worse than other episodes.
Speaker 1: I think also we can do this with worst Dance Move.
Speaker 1: I think Brian Ryan and Will Schuster there sort of
Speaker 1: rivalry and competitiveness and singing is cringey in like a
Speaker 1: different way, like a funny comedic way, like they're cringey
Speaker 1: because they're both like what do you You're both grown
Speaker 1: ass men upset about a glee club, Like can you
Speaker 1: calm down in a community theater? Yeah, and they're jumping
Speaker 1: around this stage like they're like okay on the bron Wood.
Speaker 1: I think we should do best dance move, and I
Speaker 1: vote safety dance, thank you very much. Would I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think some of that soft shoe was very nice.
Speaker 1: Jenna hair was really getting on the extension of those
Speaker 1: arms in those hands. He was really I know, because
Speaker 1: he's a dancer, professional professional. Okay, best song this song?
Speaker 1: Um obviously safety Dance. Yeah, Safe Dance. I don't like
Speaker 1: that song generally speaking, but it's the sentiment behind the
Speaker 1: actual It was really fun to get to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was best performance by a prop, Kevin, you think
Speaker 1: I'm a prop? Jenna, wait till we get the episode
Speaker 1: to the episode props. Oh, yeah, the best performance by
Speaker 1: a prop. I think the little tappers on my wheelchair
Speaker 1: were pretty great. That's good Shelby's tape to Rachel. That
Speaker 1: means I actually did a lot. Yeah, that was an
Speaker 1: actual problem. Best lines, best line I think my favorite
Speaker 1: line honestly is John Groff saying you look like you're
Speaker 1: in fifth position at a sonogram. I gotta say, I
Speaker 1: feel like all I want to do is dance, Jenna,
Speaker 1: I hate you. Just the wall of CD players as well. Also,
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, let's take out those burned CD
Speaker 1: and it in this wall of CD play. Get your
Speaker 1: zipber CD case out in your car. Okay, should we
Speaker 1: found on TikTok It is the Year of Our Lord
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and somebody's having a Glee Night at
Speaker 1: like a proper venue in New York City. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: If you go on TikTok, it's Glee Night tour and
Speaker 1: they're throwing like a full I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: playing like music videos. It's a full party of all
Speaker 1: Glee music in twenty three. What is happening? What is?
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious and great, but I had no
Speaker 1: idea this was a thing. But we've been tagged on
Speaker 1: Twitter and on TikTok everywhere. Yes, is that a big venue? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a very popular Like what what? I'm perplexed? Yeah, Also,
Speaker 1: like are we invited? What's the deal? What's the plan?
Speaker 1: I guess if you go to Glee Knight, send VIDs,
Speaker 1: send pics. Didn't happen? Um? Great? Yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 1: There's also a really cute video. So Chris Carmack, who's
Speaker 1: co stars with Harry on Craze, took a video of
Speaker 1: Harry videoing him dancing just to get his reaction, because
Speaker 1: you know, Harry's a professional, as we've learned with that
Speaker 1: fake tap dancing, and that's also very cute, and Harry
Speaker 1: looks the exact same. He does look he looks younger. Actually.
Speaker 1: You know, this was a viral thing though, because they
Speaker 1: were it was parents videoing asking their kids to video
Speaker 1: them dancing, and but they turned the camera around on them,
Speaker 1: so you actually get the kids reactions, which is very
Speaker 1: sweet and and very like innocent and young on fun.
Speaker 1: And then Harry did it and Harry doesn't look so pleased.
Speaker 1: Harry has no christ is dancing. It's wild, you know,
Speaker 1: it's very funny. It's very funny, and they look like
Speaker 1: having a great time on set. I know we shouldn't
Speaker 1: go visit. I would just lose my marbles. That is,
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