1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to you stuff you should 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: know from house Stuff Works dot Com. Hey, and welcome 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and there's Charles W. 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant and he I can't really say what he's 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: doing right now, but he's having a fine time. I'm 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: playing by a little what is this try stop try Saratops? 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: We have dinosaurs in a jar in here. I don't 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: know who brought these in, but I thank them because 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of fun. It is fun. It looks really 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable for the dinosaurs, like I've seen too many of 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the toy story movies too. That's to leave these things 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: b That's why I've secured the try sterotops by my 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: side today. That's nice. He'll be with us through a sexuality, 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Yes he will. Um, We're gonna go on a little 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: journey through a sexuality today. UM. This is this is uh, 17 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: I guess new to me. Like I've heard the term 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: before a sexual um, but I never really realized that 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: it's becoming. And there's a group of people who who 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: claimed this as their sexual orientation. Yeah, you hear the 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: word kind of thrown around like, you know, well, they 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: never really had a girlfriend and boyfriend that scene. They're 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: they're just sort of a sexual, right or it's often 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: it's often um put alongside androgyny, you know, so like 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: a sexual meaning genderless, but that's not at all what 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: it means and improperly tied to uh abstinence, celibacy, celibacy. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, Yeah, if you believe the lies, I don't know. 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I think he's for real, do you yeah, sure yeah 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: um Or Morrissey, Yeah, he's legendarily celibate celibate, right, but 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily a sexual difference. So I looked into this 31 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: a little more before even proposing this, and I was 32 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: just fascinated with it. Not in like a prurient sense, 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: I was interested. And what kicked it all off was 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: I was in Lyne at the bank and there was 35 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: this woman reading a book while she was going through 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: like the teller transaction, and she had um this uh 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: this T shirt on and it said uh aven a 38 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: V and and I looked a little closer and it 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: said a Sexuality Visibility and Education Network. Right, It's not 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: off the top of my head did have a logo 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: or anything it did. I didn't recognize it until now, 42 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: and I still can't conjure it up in my mind's eye. 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: But it was a triangle, and I took it to 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: me like a like a the pink triangle for homosexuality. 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: It is not. It's just a triangle. Had I looked 46 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: a little closer, I, had I looked now, I would 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: see that. I think it's a slice of cake, okay, sure, 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: which is their their symbol, right supposedly from a quote 49 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: from someone and a sexual who said, between the slices 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: of cake and sex, I'd take the cake, right, So 51 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: this think everyone feels that way once or another though, right, Okay, 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: So that's an excellent point. Yeah. The difference is if 53 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: you're a sexual, you feel that way virtually all the time. 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: That is quite literally your orientation. You're oriented towards no 55 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: sexual attraction, no sexual preferences. Um, although you may still 56 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: if you do feel any kind of romantic feelings, it 57 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: would still possibly go along homosexual or heterosexual lines, right right, Yes, 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: let's get into this okay. Um, I guess Alfred Kinsey 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: is a pretty good place to start whenever you're talking 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: about people doing it or not doing it. Man, I 61 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: don't know how he got into these people's how we 62 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: got people to talk like this back then? Have you 63 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: seen the movie? No, it's good. Yeah, the y fine, 64 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: he beat everybody up. He did a bunch of poles 65 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: and then whipped everyone's But yeah, um, he's like, I 66 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: have a very specific data set. Uh so in his 67 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: Kinsey uh scale, the famous Kinsey scale rates very inclusively 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: a scale from I think in here they say from 69 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: fleeting attraction to longer term, longer term compulsions like tries 70 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: to include everyone in the scale, but it's still generally 71 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: not inclusive of a sexuals group X. It's like completely 72 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: non inclusive. It goes from zero to six and it's 73 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: straight up hetero to straight up homo sexual that's right, right, 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: and then there's stuff in between, and you can fall 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: somewhere in on this spectrum. But it was pretty groundbreaking 76 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: at the time because first of all, people weren't really 77 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about homosexuality much so to make a scale that 78 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: was inclusive of them that was pretty revolutionary. Yeah, but 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: he did identify group X, he just didn't include it 80 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: on the scale. Group X to him was the one 81 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: point five percent of men and of women who said 82 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: I don't have sexual relations, that I'm not interested in it. Right, 83 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: but he just kind of disregarded that as an anomaly 84 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: group or maybe he thought he would come back to 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: it at some later day. Never did. Uh. And but 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: out of this he said something that's kind of a 87 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: famous quote. He said, the world is not to be 88 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: divided into sheep and goats, which means, like you're not. 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: There's more than just straight, there's more than just gay, 90 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: there's some stuff in between, there's a range. But he 91 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: still left out group X. He still left out group 92 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: what's weird? And Kristin Conger, who wrote this article, good 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: job too. Yeah, she did a good job tying this 94 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: all together. There was a study in two two of 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: rams that produced another group X, and it's in its sample. Interestingly, 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: also rams and cheap because apparently there's a guy named 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: m Charles Roselli and he was looking to find if 98 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: there's a biological basis for homosexuality. So return to the 99 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: animal kingdom, right, Apparently rams can be gay. They rams 100 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: can party down with other rams for like, and when 101 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: there's females around, they'll still just say, hey, that guy 102 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. To me. So he also found that 103 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: there's some that don't go for either, and UM this 104 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: this group X among rams started to UM. This formed 105 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: the basis of the idea of a sexuality is an 106 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: orientation as far as like academy is concerned, right, And 107 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: the flip side of this, which we haven't really mentioned, 108 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: is as opposed to UM, a physiological problem, an issue, 109 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: or a mental illness, which up until waste homosexuality is 110 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: considered a mental illness. So until seventy three, and then 111 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six they finally took out the secondary 112 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: UM basically being stressed out from being gay was it 113 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: was a diagnosis until six and finally there's like no 114 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: homosexuality in the DSM any longer, but essentially until eighty six, 115 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: and in seventy three that was when the straight up 116 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: like if you're gay, you're mental ill was taken out. 117 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: And the d s M is we've talked about it before, 118 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders basically where 119 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: they classify everything, and it's important, Chuck, we should say 120 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: what goes in there, because it's basically the book that says, 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: here's what society thinks is normal. And here's what society 122 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: thinks is abnormal. And if you who considers yourself normal, 123 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: is in there that society has a lot of leverage 124 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: against you to tell you that there's something wrong with you. 125 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: But it's doctor's opinions, right, It's not like they took 126 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: polls from society. Right. No, But I mean, like that's 127 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: that's based on a lot, it's not not all of 128 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: it's based on empirical evidence. It's basically saying, like, like, 129 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you act this way in society thinks there's something wrong 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: with you. That's mental illness. Uh So we mentioned is 131 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: not like celibacy, because that is a choice to remain uh, 132 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: sexually inactive. Morrisey battles that every day. I'm sure he does. 133 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, look at him. He dresses sexy. Oh, Morrissey's 134 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: a sexy guy. I look at him. So he's a 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: pop star, right, don't have anyone he wants on either side, 136 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: but he chooses not to. That's right. Is he still 137 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I think he is? Isn't he? Oh? I think he's 138 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: like lifetime celibate. Yeah. Yeah, but you never know. That's 139 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know Morrissey personally. You never told me. 140 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: But I mean this is just from being a fan, 141 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: this is why. Yeah. Yeah, And he's come out very 142 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: hard lineed, you know, for his celibacy, so it's not 143 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: like he's been a secret or anything like that. I 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Well, in the same it's like Tim Tebow, 145 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: all of them, and we'll mention this even more. But 146 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: the uh, it's the same with a sexuals. They the 147 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: what is it, one percent roughly of the population in 148 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: these samples. In these samples, it was one point five 149 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: in this big survey. So there's this is all very 150 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: very very new, like thinking about it. That Ram study 151 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: was from two thousand two, right in two thousand four, 152 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: that Ram study I think piqued somebody's interest enough to 153 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: start looking into this. So it's real new, like this 154 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: is the twenty one century sexual orientation and people are 155 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: at least people who study it are just now starting 156 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: to look into it. Well, I've already figured out how 157 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: to discriminate again. Anthony Bogert bo Garrett, I don't know 158 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: how you say it. We'll just say Bogert, Uh, he 159 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: is the one in two thousand four. He's a psychologist 160 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: at Brock University in Canada. I don't think they have 161 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: any kind of a football team and Brock University Brock. 162 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: We're probably wrong though, but um he is the one 163 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: who did uh publish a journal in Journal of Sex 164 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Research in August of two thousand four that you know, 165 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: one of the first people to do a lot of 166 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: studying on this in recent times. He examined data from 167 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: a survey in the UK UH from n and basically 168 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: out of the nineteen thousand sample size, which isn't too bad, no, 169 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: it's huge, Yeah, he found one point five said I 170 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: have never never ever felt sexual attraction to anyone at all. 171 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: And that wasn't like part of that was it was 172 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: a huge survey with of a huge sample of a 173 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: bunch of questions and that was just one of the 174 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: one group with lumped into a little data set based 175 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: on that response. And this guy went back and found 176 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: that and they really started to look at it well. 177 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: And he's the first one in two thousand six to say, 178 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: you know what, this is a sexual orientation and that's 179 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: how it should be treated. And a sexuals were you know, 180 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: they're they're proud to be who they are. I mean, 181 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: the ones that come out in the support groups at 182 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: least I'm sure, there's a lot more that, you know, 183 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: wrestle with it, and they're quiet about it. But at 184 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: least with the what is it, the a v ETON. Yeah, 185 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: that a Sexuality Visibility and Education Network. They're all all 186 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: about being proud to call it a sexual orientation, like 187 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: we don't need to be treated for any kind of dysfunction. Yeah, 188 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: leave us alone. We're happy with the basically how we're born. 189 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: The thing is is like, leave us alone. It's not 190 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: just that, it's also take us seriously. Yeah, because there's 191 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of accusations that are leveled against them, 192 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: like you know, you guys are all victims of trauma, 193 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: so you know that's probably what it is, or you're 194 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: being willful or you know, and to not be taken 195 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: seriously as a human being, that's a big deal. Uh. 196 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: David J. Would agree with that. Not to be confused 197 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: with David J. From bau House. No, and there's another 198 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: David J. Too. Yeah, I think it was some other 199 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: kind of writer, unless about House guys a writer. Now, 200 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: David J. From the House just goes by David capital 201 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: J period saying that this is David J. A y 202 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: J a y founder of the A d e n 203 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: And there's a site a sexuality dot org that he 204 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: founded in two thousand one where you can find out 205 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: all kinds of information and get support if you uh 206 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: find yourself in this one point five percent. And and 207 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: he made a lot of news because you know, he's 208 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: a young, handsome dude, and everybody's like, why don't you 209 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: want to do it with anybody exactly? And he's just like, 210 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: because my orientation is a sexual and start wrapping your 211 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: heads around that. People. I think Matt Lauer actually like 212 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: poked him in the stomach like, ma'am, what's going on 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: during an interview Videoally now, okay, But there is a 214 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: range of you know, not a sexuals are the same. 215 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Um Kristen points out that some are virgins, some are 216 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: not um and it's not even just necessarily from a 217 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: past experience before they kind of figured out where they were. 218 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: Some still have sex to satisfy their partner, only to 219 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: satisfy their partner. And if you like want to get 220 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: a first person, firsthand view of, you know, what it's 221 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: like to be a sexual in a very hyper sexual world. 222 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: They have a lot of essays and UM tips and 223 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: guides for interacting with a sexual people, I'm sure. Um. 224 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: And one of them that I read was like having 225 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: sex with an a sexual person, and like, how you 226 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: get to that point? Yeah, I mean it's not, it's 227 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: like that's a a gift, as I understand it. Yeah, 228 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: like that means they that person really cares about you 229 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: because they are not into this since really at all, 230 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: or if if they are into it, it's not it's sexual, 231 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: it's romantic, right. Well, And that's the other point Conger 232 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: goes on to make, like some are virgins, some are not, 233 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Some masturbate, some do not, Some pursue romantic, long term, 234 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: committed relationships, and some don't pursue that like anything beyond 235 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: platonic relationships. So it kind of runs the gamut on 236 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: how they choose to integrate and live their life or 237 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: not integrate and just still live their life, which I 238 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: guess is still integration. Uh you're thinking of that rough 239 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: song pretty well, okay, Um, And I think we should 240 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: also say chuck, like there's even while we're trying not 241 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: to pidge whole anyone, we're still managing to still I'm 242 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: sure like leave some people out, like there's this is 243 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: a it's a very broad swath of people, and that 244 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: was a good point to say, like a lot of 245 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: different ways to live as an a sexual person, we 246 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: haven't figured them all out, just as there are a 247 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: lot of ways to live as a sexual person exactly exactly. 248 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: The tie that binds a sexual a sexually oriented people 249 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:34,119 Speaker 1: is that they literally don't feel sexual arousal or sexual attraction. 250 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: That's just not part of it. And this Indiana University study, 251 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: you didn't talk about that, right, So these researchers set 252 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: down to Indiana University with four self identified um A 253 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: sexuals and basically said, tell us about it, you know, 254 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: and most of them, I think, basically the the consensus 255 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: was was that, um yeah, it's kind of tough, especially 256 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: when you're attracted romantically to people like you want to 257 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: have a relationship, but most people aren't a sexual. This 258 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: is one point five percent of that sample. So you're 259 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to have there's gonna be some sort of 260 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: conflict or problems or no matter how understanding your partner is, 261 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: this is gonna be tough. Sure, not just for you, 262 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: but for them. Um So they said that that's tough, 263 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: But on the flip side, you have a lot more 264 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: free time and your chances of getting an STD or 265 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: an unwanted pregnancy or like virtually nil. Well I kind 266 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: of laughed at the free time thing, like you know, 267 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: how many hours a day or people spending having sex. 268 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: But if you totally are devoid of sex, that means, 269 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: as a single person, you're not spending any time going 270 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: looking for it or you're not doing people. So a 271 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of time theoretically goes into people you know, out 272 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: there trying to hook up. You know what I'm saying exactly, 273 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: Like there's if you step back and think about it, 274 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: especially especially if you're like single person. Yeah, like there's 275 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: a lot of time and energy that goes into all 276 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: that goes into getting to the sexual act. Right, It's 277 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: not just the time that you spend remember those days. 278 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: It was a long time ago. I don't remember what 279 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: that's like, But the point is, like, that's a lot 280 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: of time and energy, and like, what else could you 281 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: have done with that? Often spent my time doing other things. 282 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Actually I was never that guy, yeah, cruising the bars, 283 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: you know. I was always just hanging out with my friends, 284 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: which probably explains a lot. Uh So interestingly in these 285 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: polls as well, um women make up generally across two 286 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: different polls. They both made up seventy five I'm sorry 287 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: of the population of a sexual individuals. Yeah, that British 288 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: survey of the households. And then later um, the an 289 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Avan pole that just last year. No, that was two 290 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: eight that was and then it went down. The ratio 291 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: of men to women changed in the last year's pole 292 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: it went to like women. And then but the other 293 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: thirty three percent wasn't all men? A lot of them 294 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: identify themselves as a gender neutral? Yeah, that's a lot. 295 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: So this suddenly now you have a subset of a 296 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: subset of as far as sexual orientation goes. Um. And 297 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: I was reading on Avan today about how to use 298 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Remember when we did our Executive order UM podcast, the 299 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: Flawless one on Executive Orders, UM. They we were trying 300 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: to figure out what you would call a gender neutral president. 301 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: It's not out there. No one has any idea. Like 302 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: even people who are gender neutral don't really know. There's 303 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: not a standard way to address somebody like that with 304 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: a gender neutral pronoun So we gotta figure that one out. Well, 305 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: somebody smarter than us and more sensitive than us should 306 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: do that. So the A V E. N Has grown 307 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: since two thousand one, from nineteen thousand to thirty thousand members, 308 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: which is pretty great. These people are getting some pretty 309 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: good community support. Um they Conger points out that disinterest 310 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: in sex is usually regarded as a symptom, a problematic symptom, 311 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: rather than like a sexual identity. So that's the battle 312 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: they're kind of facing now is again, don't treat us. 313 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: We don't need We're not dysfunctional, like we were born 314 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: this way. The guy uh that founded the network uh 315 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: said that, you know, I remember being a kid and 316 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: once people started talking about like hot movie stars, I 317 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: was just like, what, Like, I don't get it, what 318 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: does that mean? And you know, from a very young age, 319 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: are you making humping motions in the air? Little kids 320 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: are dirty? Kids are so healthy, dirty. I don't even 321 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: know they're innocent. You know what's going on, what's going 322 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: on with my hips? Yeah, it's all very sweet. They're 323 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: just trying to figure it all out, you know, poor kids. 324 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: And then comes the hair spray. So um. The we 325 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: we mentioned the the Diagnostic Manual of Mental Disorders, there 326 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: are two disorders that look like they could cover this 327 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: as far as sexuality goes, and one of them is 328 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: s a D sexual aversion disorder, and the other is 329 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: hypoactive sexual desire disorder. You can throw out s a 330 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: D because that's an actual phobia of sex. Yeah, it's 331 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: like you you get real anxiety from that, even the 332 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: idea of having sex. Right, that's not what a sexuality is. No, 333 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: it's not, So go ahead and toss that out. H 334 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: s d D is a little closer because it's described 335 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: as persistently or currently deficient or absence of sexual fantasies 336 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: and desire for sexual activity. The difference there, though, is UM, 337 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: as Congress calls it critical footnote, Uh, it must be 338 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: UM inciting marked distress or interpersonal difficulty, which I'm sure 339 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: can happen. Happen. But a sexual is also a lot 340 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: of more saying you know what, I'm fine. Well, that's 341 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: part of what avan is all about, is kind of 342 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: like accepting and celebrating and saying like, dude, you're okay. 343 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to I don't have to feel bad 344 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: about this is it's just who you are. Um. So yeah, 345 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: that last little that last one, what is it HSD D. 346 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: That's I feel so bad because it's like, okay, guys 347 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: are starting to make their way through the civil rights 348 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: discrimination road, and they're you know, starting to come out 349 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: on the other end. And okay, who who else is 350 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: there discriminated against? We're almost out of people. Who can 351 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: we go to next? Oh good, here's a group called 352 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: a sexuals and here they come. So let's run them 353 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: through the pike because that's what's about to happen. It 354 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: looks like, well, I could see them being more accepted about, 355 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, the people that don't accept homosexuality. I could 356 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: see them being more lenient with asexuality, yes, because it 357 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: doesn't threaten anything in their life. You know. I agree, 358 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: it's tough to discriminate against somebody based on the lack 359 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: of sexuality. It's more like, you know, taking it seriously 360 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: and treating it not as a mental illness. Does are does? Are? 361 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: You know? That's got to be big because think about it, 362 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: like like the whole Chick fil A thing that's going on, right, 363 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: So let's say that. Um still, to this day, uh, 364 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the field of psychology considered homosexuality a mental illness. Now 365 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: consider you know, those donations, what they're going to Are 366 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: they going like to discriminate? Are they going to treat 367 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: mental illness. That's that's a big deal to be in there. 368 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: It's a lot of power that little book wields totally, 369 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: and if for no other reason than just respect and 370 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: self respect, like you're talking about. I mean, what's our motto, 371 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: chuck live and let live. That's one of them to 372 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: each his own. That's right, that's kind of the same thing. 373 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: Uh So they have petition the board though to have 374 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 1: that removed, much like they did in nineteen seventy three 375 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: with homosexuality. So we'll see what happens there. Do you 376 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: think the DSM five maybe how often does it published, 377 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, like seventy three to eighty six, because we're 378 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: in between. Yeah, so when you're in there, it's it's 379 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: a big deal. I wonder if it's a set republished 380 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: or if it's every time they need to like have 381 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: some changes stacked that they really different editions of different 382 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: versions like um, that makes sense, revised ones. But like 383 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's I mean, they've been working on this 384 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: for years and so much controversy around it because it's 385 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: saying here's what's here's what's normal hot off the press. 386 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: On one hand, it's like it's great to be able 387 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: to diagnose people with problems. But the other hand, there's 388 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: something about just taking a book and seeing, like, let's 389 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: see what you are. Let me look it up. It's 390 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: kind of like I'm a person. Well it's it's there's 391 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: a checklist. It's like, if this person, here's the set 392 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: of symptoms we say are associated with this disease based 393 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: on probably a lot of study, and if they have 394 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: eight of twenty, then there that they're that thing. They had, 395 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: that mental illness down the list. So there are some 396 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: supposed notable a sexuals throughout history. Yeah. I found a 397 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: few lists that were pretty hanky Nicola Tesla, and one 398 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: of them had like fictional characters. They're like Dexter Texture 399 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: not a sexual. Yeah, no, he's not he at all. 400 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: He's weird. He's a serial killer. But he had like 401 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: affairs like girlfriends, live ins, well those were mostly damask 402 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: his homicides. No, I mean he goes at it pretty 403 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: good season and the first couple of seasons like he's 404 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: I could see him being considered a sexual, especially the 405 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: first season. Plus Michael see how was just coming up 406 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: six ft under. Yeah, he's like I went from homosexual 407 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: to a sexual when I really just want to be 408 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: a serial killer. But he was straight in her life 409 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: because he was married to his co star. Yeah, I 410 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: think they're reconciling. Oh, they reconciled. Isn't that nice? Alright, 411 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: So back to the supposed list. These are the ones 412 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: that I kind of weeded out to potentially be correct 413 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: off of the bunk list. What about Nikola Tesla made 414 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: you think it was hinky? I don't know. It didn't 415 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: come from like his cousin the report. I think it 416 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: was just from the website where I got it, and 417 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see him on any other websites. Um, Paula Poundstone, 418 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: the comedian perfect, she supposed he's a sexual. Tim Gunn, 419 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: he's okay, fashion guy right. Um Edward Gorey the illustrator, 420 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I did not know that. And J. M. Barry, the 421 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 1: creator of Peter pan Um. Although it's hard to substantiate 422 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: that one because I've seen some works where he was 423 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: called a pedophile without a whole lot of backup aside 424 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: from rumors has it that he and his wife like 425 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: never consummated the marriage and he sure did like hanging 426 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: around kids. But that's kind of unfair too. But see 427 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: that's the other thing too. It's like, that's really unfair. Actually, 428 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: I think about it. If he is a sexual, then 429 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: then how would you rectify that. I mean, if this 430 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: were twenty years from now, years from now, and a 431 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: sexuality were normal, you could look back at that set 432 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: of behaviors and be like, oh, he was obviously a sexual. 433 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: But we have to drag these poor people's lives out 434 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: into the spotlight for the rest of us to observe 435 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: and you examine, so then we can say, okay, all right, 436 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: we will agree that this is normal, and they can 437 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: come out of the DSM agreed like he might have 438 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: been straight up a sexual and they just didn't know 439 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: what that was. So we love not having sex with 440 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: his wife, so that means he's a pedophile because he 441 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: writes children exactly, because we don't understand man. So that 442 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: was the list of a sexuals. Huh. Yeah, there were others, 443 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: but that didn't feel great about. There were two in 444 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: this article that I thought were pretty good. So apparently 445 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: among a sexuals, like the a sexual TV character is 446 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Who. I'm not a Doctor Who guy, but I 447 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: know that a lot of our army is. So doctor 448 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Who's supposedly a sexual. He Um, he exhibits a lot 449 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: of the behavior, but he's also not very judgmental, and 450 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: he has satisfying, um, substantial relationships with others. Those are 451 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: great points. And who else was in there? Sheldon from 452 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Um Big Bang. Yeah. I don't watch that oht either, 453 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: but I know who they're talking about, and I could 454 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: see him being a sexual because that's more rumor. Apparently 455 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: doctor who is like, that's that's an a sexual hero. 456 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: I saw Doctor House listed to no way. He was 457 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: like all about that, um, his sex wife and and 458 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: uh he was all about, um, oh what's that. There's 459 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: another doctor who's like an administrator. Yeah, this is not 460 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: a sexual that. I think that was the same list 461 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: that had Tesla and Dexter on it. That's why I 462 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's a poo poo list. You watch House, 463 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean from time to time if it's on and 464 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm like jogging or whatever and there's no law in 465 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: order on, I'll watch House gotch TV when you jug 466 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: yeah nice, Yeah, it's it's nice. That's great. So yeah, 467 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: if I ever go outside and run, I'll be like, 468 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: what's on? Uh. If you want to learn more about 469 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: a sexuality, we strongly encourage you to go check it out. 470 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: There was another, Um, there's another uh podcast stuff Mom 471 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: never told you did this? Oh did like years back? 472 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: Maybe go give that one to listen to get their 473 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: take on it. Yeah, and then um, you can also 474 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: go check out the Asexuality Visibility and UM Education Network 475 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: and it's AVIN and I what's it's a sexuality or 476 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: that's right. You can check them out or you can 477 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,959 Speaker 1: type in a sexuality in the search bar at how 478 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: stuff works dot comm and it will bring this up, 479 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I said, search bar. So it's time for all right, 480 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: this is uh, maybe our last installment. This is what 481 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: we do when folks have sent in uh little tokens 482 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: and chatchkeys and gifts and cards and letters. We like 483 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: to give them their du on the air because a 484 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: lot of times there are small businesses and their Etsy 485 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: sites and talented people. So did you, um, did you 486 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: grab the one from yesterday that I didn't finish? I 487 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: did finish it, didn't they? Okay? Good, alright, So we're 488 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: all all right. So we got a postcard from Claire 489 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: Hinders in New Zealand. It's very nice. Yeah, you want 490 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: to go ahead? How is that it? I thought you're 491 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: gonna say thanks Claire or something. Oh, thanks Claire from 492 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: Etsy dot com, slash shop, slash b F four e Emily, 493 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: and you me got some charms. Yeah, thank you very 494 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: much for those. That was very sweet. Yes it was 495 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: uh coffee, we got coffee. I'm jin you got that 496 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: from Corey who was living in Haiti at the time. 497 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: Huh do you remember that? Yes? I do. It was good. Oh, yes, 498 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: it was nice. I drank the heck out of that 499 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: good and um I had many sleepless nights because of it. Uh. 500 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: We got some real men Way two Bills T shirts. 501 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: That's right. We said that off handedly in the podcast 502 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: a long time ago, and apparently it was on a 503 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: T shirt. So we got that from custom inc dot com. 504 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for that. We have received several books that I'm 505 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: going to list here. Seven Deadly Women by Jamie Hale. Uh, 506 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: the official Doomsday survival handbook. This one was really good. 507 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: W h mumphrey. I've been prousing that in my brakes 508 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: here at work. You have brakes I do the Savvy 509 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Converts guy to Choosing Religion. Really good book. Uh. Knock 510 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: Knock dot biz is where you can find that. And uh, 511 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: then this one is really cool. Wind of Water a 512 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: bartender's quest to bring clean water to the world followed 513 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: up with This guy's name was Doc Henley and he 514 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: was a bartender that founded an organization called uh Wine 515 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: to Water dot org and they're doing awesome, awesome work. 516 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: That's a great name for it. Yeah, very very cool. 517 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: That's that was a long good Um. So Glenn and Sonja, 518 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: who we thank for the champagne of course. Um, we 519 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: also want to thank there are Kiva captains by the way, Um, 520 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: we want to thank them for these t shirts from 521 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: the Princeton Library. I think of Einstein and it says 522 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: Einstein Simplified, and it's three drawings and they just get 523 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: simpler and simpler. It's awesome my way all the time 524 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: while I'm jogging and watching television. Right, Russian candy, remember 525 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: the Russian candy? Yeah, you're all over that. We got 526 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: some Russian candy from Audrey. It was like it had 527 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: pop rocks in the middle and I couldn't stop eating 528 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: as crazy. It was pretty funny. Yah. Um. We got 529 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: a postcard from Margaret in Chile, Joanne and Stephen in 530 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: Colombia from the Amazon Institute. Oh yeah, that's right. Those 531 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: our friends. That's who uh nominated us with the Grammy. 532 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: That's right, thank you very much that we were Grammy 533 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: nominated nominated podcast. It's right. Uh Dan Burtwell from Cambridge, Massachusetts. 534 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: And some graphic novels just as a like, here, dudes, 535 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: I heard your comic book thing, and just here's some 536 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: graphic novels that I've enjoyed in my life. Right next time. No, no, no, 537 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: he's very cool. Um Watchman, which I've already read. I 538 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: want to see that one. Yeah, I think I have 539 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: it over there. Um Coward which I have not read yet, 540 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: The Punisher Max, which I have not gotten to yet 541 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: and I definitely yeah, And Why the Last Man, which 542 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: I did read. And um, I want to thank Dan 543 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: because Why the Last Man was awesome. And I also 544 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: want to punch Dan because now I have to buy 545 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: the other nine volumes to see where the story goes. 546 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna get him. Actually with to Amazon the 547 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: other day. Oh you gotta go to Oxford Comics and 548 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: get them. Man, what you gotta like stand around in 549 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: the comic book shop and buy them. Then you can't 550 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: just order them. You can. It's pretty easy actually, So um, 551 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: let's see remember our Roller Derby episode. Well, the Deutsche 552 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: land Rollers sent us a sticker. Thank you for that. 553 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: That's right, kick. But uh and my last one is 554 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Maureene from the Therapy Sisters at therapy Sisters dot com. 555 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: They sent us their music CD and it's like funny stuff. 556 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, thank you for um. I've got more. 557 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: Do you want to split these? No? Go ahead? Alright? 558 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: So Emily from Idaho sent us a cool photo pulled 559 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: out postcard from Maui. That's right, remember, thank you, um. 560 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: Jennifer from Nature's Classroom in New Englandton is a handwritten letter. Again, 561 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: very rare. It's nice to see those. Um. Leah from 562 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: Halifax sent you a birthday card. Ah, yeah, that was 563 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: very nice. That was nice. Um. And then can Crowder 564 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: sent us a one dollar bill which I still have 565 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: yet to get any of. It's over there on my desk. 566 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: I have a brain like a little like our first 567 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: dollar earned, like businesses do. Do you really? Yeah, that's 568 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: our first dollar earned. It's actually not braining, but it's 569 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: still over there. Okay, I leave it out, just daring 570 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: somebody to be brave enough. The steels well if you 571 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: if it's replaced by fifty cents soon. That's me okay. Uh, 572 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: and then Aaron Spivey sent us in Atlantic Core Vets, 573 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Drum and Bugle core patch. That's right. Thank you very 574 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: much to all of you for awesome free stuff. Yeah, 575 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: that's really cool when you guys think of us and 576 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: send us things like that, it's very sweet. So that 577 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: was it. Huh. Administrative details is over. 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