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Speaker 1: This is a me eater podcast coming at you shirtless,

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Speaker 1: severely bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can't predict anything. Whatever state you guys are from.

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Speaker 1: Are you from the west or east side of the state? West?

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Speaker 1: West side? Where I'm from, like where I grew up?

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Speaker 1: The state you were born? And I don't even care

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Speaker 1: what it is east the east and you were born

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Speaker 1: no kind of you're right dead nuts. No, we're not

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Speaker 1: not even kind of. So you think you're West Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Southwest Michigan. Yeah, that's what we call it. I'm not

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Speaker 1: tew talking about. I'm not talking about I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: about latitude. Sure, but when someone says where is Countazoo Michigan,

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Speaker 1: I say Southwest Michigan. I don't know about that. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, get a map out. Oh I know where

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Speaker 1: it is. I just don't know if it has the

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Speaker 1: West Michigan sensibility. The reason I bringing this up is

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Speaker 1: because now we talked about how you guys didn't grow

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Speaker 1: up flipping off your buddies as a way to say hi. No, okay,

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Speaker 1: because hear me out. Have you ever met anybody else's

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Speaker 1: said check out, check this out? What brought up the

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Speaker 1: conversation about the Michigan hello, which is the middle finger

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Speaker 1: is we're talking about the Some guy was saying, man,

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Speaker 1: you should like it's bad to say mugs. And this

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Speaker 1: guy had to be Australian because we just use mugs

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Speaker 1: like hey friend, you know friend. Oh, Um, it's more

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Speaker 1: little little chab in there. Um you say, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: horrible thing to say. And so we're looking up like

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Speaker 1: what mugs means in different places. I think it means

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Speaker 1: something kind of awful in Australia. And in this discussion,

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Speaker 1: one guy wrote in to say that man, I would

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Speaker 1: never take any advice from people in Australia and Australia

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Speaker 1: they call their their Michigan hello or they're mugs. Is

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Speaker 1: to call everybody the Queen Mother of all swear words,

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Speaker 1: the sea word. That's right. One day my little boy

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Speaker 1: made a list of all the naughty words he knew.

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Speaker 1: He's public school kid, made a list on a board

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Speaker 1: I said, you know what, you almost got them off,

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Speaker 1: but there's one I will never tell you. I'm dying

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Speaker 1: to know what it is. He even knows what letter

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Speaker 1: it starts with, but I will I will never divulge.

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Speaker 1: They use that word as a salutation. So this other

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Speaker 1: guy was saying, Plus, you know, he brought up like

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Speaker 1: swearing allegiance to the crown. He brought up all kinds

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Speaker 1: of reasons why he wouldn't take advice from an Australian

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Speaker 1: about how to speak to people. But and talking about

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Speaker 1: prompt and clarified that he's from western Wisconsin. And then

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Speaker 1: we got a guy who wrote in about the middle finger,

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Speaker 1: and he clarified these from Western Wyoming. So I was

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Speaker 1: wondering if in every state there's this weird phenomena where

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Speaker 1: in every phenomenon where in every state people that live

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Speaker 1: in the west half of that state flip people flip

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Speaker 1: their friends off as a way to say hi. This

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Speaker 1: guy in western Wisconsin that was so prevalent. He said

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Speaker 1: that if his buddy didn't flip him off when he's

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Speaker 1: prevalent the guy must be mad at him. Yeah, Western Washington.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe it was just my jackass friends, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like that was completely ubiquitous. Yeah. Another thing

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Speaker 1: in this is this is kind of like it's kind

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Speaker 1: guy rode in to say that this year, no then

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Speaker 1: like growing up in Michigan, like no one ever shot

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Speaker 1: everybody always just shot spikes and four keys every buck.

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Speaker 1: What are you saying, like in Mississippi, it's he says,

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Speaker 1: This is the old day that this is two fifteen

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Speaker 1: in Mississippi. Seventy four percent of the bucks killed in

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Speaker 1: were aged at three and a half years and older.

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Speaker 1: Four per cent of the bucks for you numb schools.

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Speaker 1: Three quarters of the almost three quarters of the bucks

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Speaker 1: bucks three and a half and older. Dude, man, that's

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Speaker 1: like a way different than a lot of places. Changing

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Speaker 1: all the time. Well we think it's way different, But

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Speaker 1: do we have that kind of data from other places?

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Speaker 1: I would love to go find it. I would love

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Speaker 1: to go find Like when I was a youngster, I

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Speaker 1: would love to go find here did I shoot? When

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Speaker 1: those in that collection of counties or statewide in general,

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Speaker 1: I would say there was seventy I was the opposite.

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Speaker 1: I would say it was seventy five. And this is

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Speaker 1: just me pulling this out of the out of thin air.

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Speaker 1: But a bet se, we're one and a half. We're

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Speaker 1: just spike some you know, fok spikes a little six is.

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Speaker 1: We thought a big buck was just a year and

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Speaker 1: an eight point rack, you know, they'll throw in Michigan eight.

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Speaker 1: So we cut that was a big buck. But maybe

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Speaker 1: you were being full to then maybe there was basket

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Speaker 1: racks sixes and eight that were actually three and a

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, But how can I really defend

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Speaker 1: my position because I don't have any the materials out there.

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Speaker 1: I was just looking at a sweet collection of maps

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Speaker 1: that are Dude sent in. That was um it was

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Speaker 1: going back into the niesties forties and showing what parts

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Speaker 1: deer hunting. Mm hmm. And there was big periods of time,

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Speaker 1: You guys ever hear this that there's a I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this is true. He says, there's a cover

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Speaker 1: scent that basically functions like vix vapor rub. When you

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Speaker 1: vapor rub on your chest. Yeah, so you'd get like

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Speaker 1: It's just it's just like swamping their senses. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is that the stuff that's supposed to smell like cookies

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Speaker 1: I don't even know enough about it. I wish Mark

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Speaker 1: Kenny was here, yea one. You know, if you're listening

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Speaker 1: So I did, so I chatted up. I got like

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Speaker 1: a you know, like a what do you call when

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Speaker 1: follow up from a guy, a doctor out of Great Falls.

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Speaker 1: Was it a doctor that called you? Yeah? Oh so

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Speaker 1: I emailed doctors every week where I got a question

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Speaker 1: that don't wait until you're sixty five to go see

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Speaker 1: it's nice to have a second opinion. Totally, dude, you

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Speaker 1: We had that, We had the we had the molds

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00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: to make your own fishing sinkers. But we'd go down

426
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: and get all of our lead out of the at

427
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: the rifle range down the road. We had a rifle

428
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: range about a mile and a half. We could ride

429
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: our bikes down a role that we dubbed dead dog

430
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: Road because the strangest thing for a long period of

431
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: growing up, you'd look in the ditch off that road

432
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 1: and would often be able to find dead dogs, like

433
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: we could never solve the mystery, or magazines of a

434
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: certain genre would be like what you'd find in this ditch.

435
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: So we call it like our road to end, and

436
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: the Dead Dog Road to begin, and down Dead Dog

437
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: already go left into the shooting range, and we would

438
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: without doing any kind of things like putting flags up

439
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: and whatnot to notify people that we were down there,

440
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: we would go down with the sand the sifter and

441
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: sift out bullet lead and use that to pour up

442
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: our own sinkers and our sinker mold. But bullet lead

443
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: there's additives in there. So like normally when you bite

444
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: a fishing sinker, um, it's soft. But when you bite

445
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: our sinkers, you would hear your teeth go every time

446
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: because it was all those hardeners in there. Man. It

447
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: was a nasty fishing, rough fad fishing experiment. Man. Yeah,

448
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: it was horrible sinkers, horrible stinkers. But we never thought

449
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: to go get tire weights, which most people who want

450
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: to melt some lead up. That's what we always used,

451
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: my dad, and soft lead buzz bombs and stuff like that.

452
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: Tire weights. Yeah, what's a buzz bomb. It's a it's

453
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: a long kind of diamond shaped casting lure for salmon

454
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: that you can just huck a country mile off the beach.

455
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Because you guys were like Pacific coast. Yeah, yes,

456
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: we did a lot. You were throwing them for casting

457
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: for salmon, mostly pinks and silvers, but you'd run into

458
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: King's time to time. Yeah, oh man along along the

459
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: west coast of Woody Island where I grew up, when

460
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: the pink salmon run was on, Like you, you could

461
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: go out to certain places and see a thousand people

462
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: stretching for a couple of miles down the beach. Just

463
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: when you threw a bird down the beach, they knew

464
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 1: you were just saying high. One time, when I was

465
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: doing that, I drilled seagull out of the air with

466
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: a buzz bomb when there was you know, five hundred

467
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: people withinside of me, and they all thought I did

468
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: it on purpose, when the worst thing was like I

469
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: was kind of like seagull coming Biden thinking of and

470
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: you know a million chances did you do it on purpose?

471
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 1: There's no way you don't bet you a thousand bucks, right,

472
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 1: there's no way you're But speaking of flipping the birds,

473
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: there are some people who thought that was pretty uh,

474
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: pretty bad idea of me to do, and we thought

475
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: you did it on purpose. But I did it on purpose.

476
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: I had to fight that thing all the way in,

477
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: pin it down, unhook it. It was pretty unpleasant with

478
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: that you hooked. Yeah, you got you tied into him. Yeah,

479
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: if you're calling drag oh yeah. Yeah. It was up

480
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: in the air and then down the water and squawking.

481
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: It's not horrible without an audience, but it probably becomes

482
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: horrible with an audience. Yeah, but worse about it. Well,

483
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: I've I've found throughout the course of my life that

484
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: catching ship on fishing gear that isn't fish is generally unpleasant. Yeah, turtles,

485
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: no one. Yeah, it's never any fun. Never. Yeah, we

486
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 1: doubt what the Pelican wants. I still need to get

487
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: back to why I brought up your heart. Yeah, we

488
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: got off of what we're gonna be doing tonight because

489
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,959
Speaker 1: I just explained the Yeah, winter sols. I'm coming up

490
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: with my boys. My daughter can't come. Oh, you guys

491
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: are coming. That's good to know. I don't think you

492
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: invited me. I think you invited my wife. I invite

493
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: your whole family, but you guys did rs VP. Really,

494
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm glad we know now I'm coming up with two boys.

495
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: All right, we're ready for you. But what we're gonna do,

496
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: Just so everybody knows what Steve will be doing and

497
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: what he was doing on the evening of the twenty one.

498
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a bonfire, throwing chicken guts, throwing leads,

499
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: No chicken guts on fire. We're gonna drag a youlgue

500
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: around the house. We're gonna sing some songs. Which how

501
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about that? My wife thinks that

502
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Americans in general are very uncomfortable with singing songs in public.

503
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hate it. Increasingly used to be way

504
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 1: more common, seems like, yeah, like I was just reading

505
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: in the paper some article the day, like Christmas caroling

506
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: is like this thing that used to be it's like kids, Yeah,

507
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: Mrs Babcock would organize it. Yeah, it's sure you kind

508
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: of hated it, But I think as you do it more,

509
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: you kind of like realize, you know, the benefits of it.

510
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I feel like singing makes you

511
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: feel good when you do it, And it's just interesting

512
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: that Americans really don't like doing it because I always

513
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: sing my song. Yeah, I've sing that all the time. Yeah,

514
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: we sing a lot on Hunt. But no, like when

515
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: my kids have a birthday and there's people over and

516
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: it comes down to sing the birthday song, and there

517
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: was stoked to sing the birthday song. Yeah, that's not

518
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: the kind of singing I'm talking about. I know what

519
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: you mean, though, it seems like it used to be

520
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot more common now. So we're gonna standing around

521
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: the bonfire saying a few songs, sing some songs while

522
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: we're pulling the yolog around and then the real well

523
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: that's part of the tradition and the whole winter song.

524
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna like, you need a team of my oxen

525
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: or what No, you know it'll be. You just had

526
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: your house redone. You're dragging large do it around it,

527
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: around it, you do it three times, you know, to

528
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: basically bless the house and you know, get rid of

529
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: evil spirits and get it ready for the next year.

530
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people on that hill, I know, there's

531
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: a we have a we have a corner man. When

532
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of space where rope, you put

533
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: up a rope people can hold onto. Yeah, little carabineers

534
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: they can clip into every time they come. When that's done,

535
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: you go to the bonfire, and then we have an

536
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: axe and you can either you know, to everybody there

537
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: express in words what you're chopping into the log or

538
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: you can just keep it in your own head. But

539
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: the gist of it is is that you're chopping like

540
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: the shitty things from the prior year, the demons, the dragons, battles,

541
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: the hurdles, negative stuff, whatever, and you're you're chopping it

542
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: into the log, out of your body, into the law.

543
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: And then I don't buy that. And then you pick

544
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: up the law goes into the fire. I feel like

545
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: every guy with a woodstove does that every time each shops.

546
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: He's like, some exactly, how is it that you're chopping

547
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: it into it? I feel like what it should be.

548
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: It's symbolic. I think it should be, did you knock

549
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: a chunk out of the log? The log is your

550
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: you're everything. You come in at a forty five, come

551
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: in at a reverse forty five, knock out a little

552
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: chip that's the right fill that in the fire, Well,

553
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: those chips will be lying there. So if that's how

554
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: you want to do it, you can throw a little

555
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: chip in there for sure. Pretty subjective, subjective on the

556
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: approach on this, like you just have your angle, know

557
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: what you want to do. Yeah, totally, I'm sure there's

558
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: some you know, crazy little traditional pagan labby and it'll say, no,

559
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: we're doing it all wrong. But I need to get

560
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: back to you why I brought up your heart. But yeah,

561
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: real quick, you guys would paint those buzz bombs? Huh?

562
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: How would you paint them? Usually bubblegum, pink? What kind

563
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: of paint? I mean, just like rustoleum. I get all

564
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: mail paffer and stuff. Like. I remember, I was into

565
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: powder coating stuff for a while. I can't remember if

566
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: I was doing that for my steel head jigs or

567
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: buzz bombs. I I don't. I don't honestly remember. But

568
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: like hard enamel stuff because you'd be banging it on

569
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: rocks and all sorts of stuff. I paint my own

570
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: hell but jigs, and that's always a let down, man. Yeah. Yeah,

571
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: it chips off so damn fastalbet it stays good, yeah,

572
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: because then you're you're trying to put glow in the

573
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: dark on their right A lot of times if you're

574
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: just jigging hell but it's good. But as soon as

575
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: you start banging rocks for heal, thet are typically over

576
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: a sandy bottom. As soon as you're like banging rocks

577
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: for lincod Or banging rocks for rock fish. Then you

578
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: pulled up, it's like all that hard work he's got

579
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: like a lead jig again. Yeah, but I also kind

580
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: of like ones that are a little battle scarred. I've

581
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: always I always thought that it needs like a little

582
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: bit of seasoning before something's fishing well, especially with jigs,

583
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: like once it once there's a little bit of chip,

584
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: maybe it makes it, give it a little bit more

585
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: of a realistic pattern or something. I don't know. I

586
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: haven't noticed that. I that's in your head, but once

587
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: in people's head is important. Man, Yeah, I think so.

588
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: I used to hate talking with people about hunting gear

589
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: and fishing gear and then they'd like something stupid, and man,

590
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: I think that's stupid and they'd say, well it works

591
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: for me. And I used to not like it, but

592
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: now I understand it and like it. Yeah, I talk

593
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I talk to people about that all the time, that

594
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: what you're fishing is less about having it right, you know,

595
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: from objective standards, and more what you're confident in. That's

596
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: what That's what I say all the time. With steel head,

597
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: it's like pick up, no, don't pick like the fly

598
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: of that you know, some professional things. You should pick.

599
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: Pick the one that you're confident in, the one that

600
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: you're going to feel like you're fishing well all day,

601
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: feel that like is working for you and and and

602
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: have that sense of find that sense of confidence, and

603
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna catch you fish, not trying to rely

604
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: on somebody else's expertise. Yeah, like this year, man, because

605
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: this year I try to hold a new kind of

606
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: flutter jig for jig and halibut. And we traditionally always

607
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: us just like classic leadheads, but I mean they're sixteen

608
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: ounce leadheads, right, like just big leadhead with a big

609
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: j hook coming out of it, and on that you

610
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: put you know, like the classic just like you're rigging

611
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: up for small mouth bath, but everything's like way bigger

612
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: than you get, like a ten inch grub body on it,

613
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: not tenants six eight inch grub body on it. And

614
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that switched to a flutter jig. And at first you're

615
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: fishing it and you're not fishing like you are when

616
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: you're fishing something you love. But then I want to

617
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: on day one, late and late on day one of

618
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: halibut fishing, smack two very nice halibut. Then you should

619
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: see me fishing that jig, then you're playing for keeps. Man,

620
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm sitting up there just jigging jigg It's not like

621
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: you know you're in it because you're like, oh this

622
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: thing works, then you're fishing seriously. So it's self fulfilling, right,

623
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: It definitely is. It takes a while. It takes a

624
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: while to develop that with new patterns, techniques, all sorts

625
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: of stuff and some there's a lot of things that

626
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: I've just never gotten past it. It's like I never

627
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: figured out how to fish. This never worked for me.

628
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: I've got dride boxes full of flies and and lures

629
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: that I tried one time. I was like, I'm not

630
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: really feeling it. Never really stuck it out long enough

631
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: to make it work, because sometimes it's just default to

632
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: those things. But then sometimes like that, just like, oh ship,

633
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: that's me. That's me. With any kind of surface bait, yeah,

634
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I just like and I was like, man, service baits,

635
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: Oh there I have a This last spring, I took

636
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: my dad to Wisconsin on a muskie trip and a

637
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: friend had told us to get this this new fancy

638
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: surface bait called the whopper plopper, and I was like, well,

639
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: that's the dumbest name I've ever heard of. And then

640
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, well, that's the

641
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: dumbest looking lure I've ever seen. And it's it's like

642
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: it's like aizarre spook kind of like a like a

643
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: just like a cigar bait. No lip, no nothing, but

644
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: the back end has like a little fin and it

645
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: goes but spinning around and must swimming. Yeah, exactly, real noisy,

646
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: there is like throwing water everywhere, but the wounded ones

647
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: are so I just I just couldn't. I just couldn't

648
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: handle it. But he went and bought five of them,

649
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: of course, and and then first day he landed like

650
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: it's just from a loan from the bank to buy

651
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: five musky plug Yeah, seriously, he got a he got

652
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: a huge smiley on it the first day, and then

653
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: a big muskie on it the second day. And then

654
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: after he caught that his first muskie on this bait

655
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: that I didn't think was gonna work, he busted out

656
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: another lure that I had even less confidence in, called

657
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: the suicide Duckling literally looks like a rubber duckling. These

658
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: guys should get a job naming hot sauce. Yeah, absolutely,

659
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: this literally looks like a duckling. It's it's it's fairly fishy.

660
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: It's like head down, looks like a duckling running the way,

661
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 1: which definitely does make a lot of commotion. It's got

662
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: propellers for the feet and it's got treble hooks sticking

663
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: up all over the play And I was like, you

664
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: gotta be kidding me. He's like, I bought this. I

665
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: bought this lure. I think it's awesome. I want to

666
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: fish it. And he just loves hair brained ideas for

667
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: different stuff. He fished that thing for ten minutes and

668
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: landed a forty in musky right at the side of

669
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: the boat. Guy can pick lures or he just fishes

670
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: him with comedy. Yeah, I know folks that swear by

671
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: those two. Definitely both both of those things. Man. I

672
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: am completely. I'm completely. Until last summer, Yanni and I

673
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: didn't know. Maybe you did, I don't think you did.

674
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: We didn't know that muskies were also in fashion again.

675
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that there's like fish and Game Agency's

676
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: established him. Well, yeah, because like my grandpa was a

677
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: musky fish and my mom that was my mom's my

678
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: mom's father, maternal grandpa. Uh he liked to fish cropping

679
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: like the fish muski. But he was fishing musky and

680
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: native water right go up in the north Wisconsin and

681
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: stuff and fish musky, um, and that was like his thing.

682
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that they're making all these like

683
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: super breeds and muskies and cutting muskies loose and all

684
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: these lakes, so they weren't traditionally been and always like

685
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: sterile hybrid eized muskies that just get bigger and bigger

686
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: and bigger and never reproduced. And it's like a big

687
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: practices when they're trying to get rid of a car

688
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: per suckers or putting hybridized yeahs, sterile musky exactly because

689
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: they'll they'll create a cool fishery. They get really big,

690
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: but you know they're not gonna breed. They're not gonna like,

691
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, eat themselves out of house and home like

692
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: pike or actual muskies. Were people are tigers all over Montana.

693
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: People get real fired up about catching them. Yeah, definitely.

694
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: When I was a little kid, we did we fished

695
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: this lake for bluegills called Wolverine Lake, pretty heavy and um,

696
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: they had tiger muskies in there, but they were all dinkers.

697
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, you so much. Moments they

698
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: were gonna Sunday be hogs. You just catch dinker tigers.

699
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: The reason I brought your heart up, guy wrote in

700
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: which is a doctor here? He was talking about your

701
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: an email about your heart. He pointed out that he

702
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: had to take beta blockers. He says that the medication

703
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: has had an interesting and unintended side effect which has

704
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: made him immune debuck fever. Oh, he gets excited about

705
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: seeing dear, but he never gets that feeling like his

706
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: heart is brought ready to jump out of his chest.

707
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: He's got that calm, steady hand because he's taken medications

708
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: specifically meant to prevent tachycardia. Tachycardia. That's right, man, You're

709
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of listeners jumping on the beta blockers.

710
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: And he says, I'm no super hunter by any means.

711
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: When this buck in the picture below came into view

712
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: in October, how as cool as could be? Yeah, no,

713
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: I can see that. But quite a few doctors have

714
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: told me and all agreed that beta blockers. Also, the

715
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: young people don't like them because they slow you down

716
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: so much. He's you have there's a look like taking him.

717
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: You just have a constant lethargy. Oh slow you down

718
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: a net way? Yeah, I don't know. Like they take

719
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: the hot the peaks and valleys, they take the peaks

720
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: out of life physically slow you don't. Yeah. So if

721
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: you're if you're hiking a hill, you know, you probably

722
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: had to just because you're heart it's not responding to

723
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: what your body's asking of it, so you had to

724
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: stop more often, you know. Yeah, so you're feeling what

725
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: this guy is saying. No, No, I've yeah, no, I've

726
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: had the beta blocker chat, you know, with anybody I've

727
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 1: talked to about about taking it. So if you're really

728
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: symptomatic and it's bothering you, and a lot of people

729
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: like that, Like I had an anxiety from having those

730
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, the symptoms, But once I was told that

731
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: there's nothing to worry about, I was able to just

732
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: put it out of my head and when it happens

733
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: now I'm like, Okay, it's fine, and I go back

734
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: to sleep or just go on with my thing. A

735
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of people can't do that. In the anxiety just

736
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: builds and builds and builds, and so they're gonna take

737
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: beta blockers to deal with it. If it was happening

738
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: to me twice a day, I'd probably taking beta blockers

739
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: because he just gets sick of it. Yeah, then just

740
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: get into some kind of hunting where you don't need

741
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: to do a whole lot of walking, but you need

742
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: to do a whole lot of keeping calm. Sounds like, yeah,

743
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: started living in a tree stand. Um guy rolled in talk.

744
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: We remember talking about shooting squirrels, shooting squirrel nats when

745
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: you're a little kid, to try to rustle him out

746
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: or like to try to get him. I like how

747
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: when we were squirrel hunting the other day, your boy

748
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: was like, He's like, I just want to make sure,

749
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: but we can't shoot the squirrel nests right there. Yeah,

750
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: he like anyone independently. It's nice when someone like independently

751
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: discover something that definitely occurred to him. Why not just

752
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: go ripping a couple of rounds up and each and

753
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: every one of these nests and then time out there

754
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: and have a look. We'll clive up there and see

755
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: what we got. Uh. This guy was saying in something,

756
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: there's states that explicitly state I haven't looked us up.

757
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: He said. The states that explicitly state you cannot shoot

758
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: into a squirrel nest makes sense. Um, he's talking about

759
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: he did it once when he was a kid, and

760
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how. You don't know the squirrel flopped

761
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: out or he climbed up and got it out, but

762
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: he took it home to his grandma. His grandma was

763
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: pissed and she was yelling at him. She cooked the

764
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: squirrel still, but she was yelling at him, and she said,

765
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: that's like someone shooting you in your home. Which I

766
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: don't want someone shooting me no matter where I'm at. Yeah,

767
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: so if they're out on the branch or, is like

768
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: somebody shooting into your yard. And that's all right. Yeah,

769
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: it's like, oh it's chilling. Man. I was outside when

770
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: I got she was asking for it. Um, one last

771
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 1: thing before we getting some before we're getting some things

772
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: that are more questions and nature. But a guy was

773
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: saying he's got this idea he's come to think of.

774
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, with people, right, you have like you have

775
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: like high class and you know you have class. There's

776
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: a class structure in America, right, It's like blue everybody

777
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: talks about blue collar. UM, affluent. He views deer. He

778
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: thinks that deer he thinks that the deer to live

779
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: on public land or blue collar deer, because I gotta

780
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: put up with all the bullshit man like getting shot at.

781
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: Just yeah, and he said, then there's like the high

782
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: class deer that lived down the private land. Nothing bad

783
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: that what happens to him. I don't know, feeding man

784
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: feeding all manner times through the day. So so is

785
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: it white colored people who are hunting white color deer

786
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: and blue color? He says he's worked this theory up.

787
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: He's running by a few people. Everyone doesn't like it.

788
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: His wife thinks it's stupid if he says, he's still

789
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: trying to work on it. But the basic outline of

790
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: it is there's blue collar deer and they stuck on

791
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: public lane as some merit some merit. I think it's

792
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: born's a warrants mentioned. Yeah, all right, here's one. It's

793
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: not on the big list. I let you guys all

794
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: look at this is a surprise question to you, but

795
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I think it would be pretty easy. A friend of mine,

796
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: Patrick wrote in, and they they he's al all, he's

797
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: already sent me an email to tell me what happened here,

798
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: and uh so we have with the follow up already

799
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: but at the time when he wrote this, his cousin

800
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: ran into a situation that he had no real knowledge.

801
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: I was wondering if we could weigh him. His cousin

802
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: killed a large dough and they had cold temperatures, so

803
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: he decided just to hang it with a hide on

804
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: and leave it um, probably at home. He didn't say where,

805
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: but he says he hung it and then he got

806
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: to his place to butcher. And so after picking it up,

807
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: and he realized that the face of the deer had

808
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: been slightly chewed on. And I saw the picture and

809
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: it looked like pretty much half of the muzzle had

810
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: been chewed off. So he's got to hang him by

811
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: the hocks. Yeah, he's got to hang him by the gambrel. Okay,

812
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: his cousin thought it was a raccoon. Maybe a possum.

813
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: Could have been a dog kyo, could have been all

814
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 1: kinds of creators. Really, That's why I'd like to know

815
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: where this is, because if it's in his garage and

816
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: his dogs in the garage, I got it narrowed down.

817
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't your ma. It sounds like it was out

818
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: in the woods. And then he brought it back. Now

819
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: as cousin felt that he couldn't eat it because of this,

820
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: because he's dead deer had rabies, because there was a risk,

821
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: possible risk feeding it to his family, and at the

822
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: time he was gonna play on his burying everything and

823
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: returning it back to the earth. He's got a deer,

824
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: got it out, deer hanging, and something choos on his muzzle,

825
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna bury the deer, even even if the

826
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: thing that chewed on his muzzle had y vampire. Yeah. Yeah,

827
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: the deer's blood isn't circulating. I mean, unless you're planning

828
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: on doing like head cheese with that deer, which like

829
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: most people don't do like there there's absolutely no reason

830
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: that it got chewed on by a rabid animal. Rabies

831
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: is mostly eradicated. The dude looking to get rid of this,

832
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: the dude looking to get rid of a deer. Yeah,

833
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: certainly there is that possibility, but I think you guys

834
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: should to us, it seems like so well, of course,

835
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: but I think to a new hunter you could see

836
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: that and definitely be turned off and wondered like okay,

837
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: which yes, yeah, yeah, because I had a coyote eat

838
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: on a or probably could have been a pack coyotes

839
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: eat on a cow elk one time that was left

840
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: in the woods a little bit too long, and I

841
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: came up to it and was like, I wasn't worried

842
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: about like I was gonna contract something, but I was

843
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: definitely like, what do I do here? How much? How

844
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: much I'm factoring in? I'm putting like heavy emphasis on

845
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: the fact that it's it's it's his muzzle. Yeah for sure.

846
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: Now if he said eight all like eight half of

847
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: each bag ham, I would trim. I would definitely trim

848
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: around that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a different situation. Okay, Yeah,

849
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a sidest point. Yeah. So Patrick

850
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Patrick had a chat with him and they they who's

851
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: Patrick buddy mine? Yeah, he's given us some of this

852
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: is from within your social circle. That's why you're being

853
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: so oh no, no, no, he's a he's like an

854
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: acquaintance through meat eater. Um. But they came up with

855
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: the solution to can the whole thing, and then by

856
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: pressure cooking it, everybody everybody felt comfortable that there was nothing.

857
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you're saying every time up you're like, well, boys,

858
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: this bes rabid, but but I can't. It was it.

859
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: What's what's pressure cooking gonna do different than any other

860
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of cooking? Isn't Listen, it's all in the guy's head, right.

861
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: But he didn't waste the animal. It didn't have to

862
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: go back to the earth. Oh no, God bless him.

863
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: I think he's deer real. I think I think I'm

864
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: I'm happy with the outcome. Okay about you guys, don't

865
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,240
Speaker 1: feel like I wasted your time. No, it's a great question.

866
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: It's a great question. And we get a lot of

867
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: questions with people in situations that I feel are less obvious,

868
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: such as having it's typically coyotes, having coyotes eating hunks

869
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: of your stuff, and then people off and wheed like,

870
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: well what do you do? That? Told the story about

871
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: my brother that had a bear getting messes, situation all up,

872
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 1: that buried all that mean, buried a bunch of the parts.

873
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: He walked aroun digging it all back up, took down

874
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: to create, gave it a bath, and went home and

875
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: ate it. Yeah, nothing wrong with it, that dude. He anything,

876
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: And it wasn't a rabid grizzly bear. I don't know

877
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: if he had he never got a test it. But yeah,

878
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think it crossed his mind. This

879
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: is a guy that takes a little bits of trim

880
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: and puts it in a TopWare container and puts it

881
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: in his microwave for his dog, but it ends up

882
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: putting salt down and eating himself. One for you, one

883
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: for me. Oh yeah, I told you right that he was.

884
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: When we were in the tent that's falling together, he

885
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: was telling me that he felt feels like tender meat

886
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: and tender food is a fad that is going to

887
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: go away. Yeah, well, there are cultures that would agree

888
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: with them, are there. Yeah, don't you remember the chupic

889
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: mm hmm, the chupic eskimo. They were saying that the

890
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: parts they liked are the chewy parts. They talked about

891
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: meat being too tender. Of the caribou, Yeah, they like

892
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: the you know what, like every animal, all the ungulates

893
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: have it, but it's really exaggerated on like moose and

894
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: stuff that. Like there's if you picture something spine like,

895
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: let's let's picture something that's got a real obvious humph

896
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Like take like a moose, right, and when you got

897
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: the spine and you got the blades that come up

898
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: off the spine, those are called the thoracic processes. When

899
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: you got like an animal like that and you go

900
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: to the highest thorascic process, like on on a buffalo.

901
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: Those things be twenty inches long, you know, moose got

902
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: a big thorastic process. And then off that there's that cable.

903
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: It looks like a yellow cable. Giant tendon that runs

904
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: from that's fixed into those things, runs along the top

905
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: of the neck and basically holds that head up. They're

906
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: talking about, like and to eat that thing. You remember this,

907
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like you're not paying attention to stuff

908
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: that vainly remember having to converse station about enjoying the

909
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: tougher cuts with those boys. Yeah, like Callahan's throat roast

910
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, which to chew cuts, um, And there

911
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: are a lot of people who like prefer those chewy

912
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: wh who liked that chewy cut. So I think Matt

913
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: could beyond to something, or Matt could have been born

914
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: to the wrong culture. Matt's wife was explaining to me

915
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: how Matt is. He's in his tent. He's in his

916
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: teepy tent with his stove going. He's got like a

917
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 1: collapsible seek stove and he's in there cleaning up a skull,

918
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: elk skool, just not doing a snowstorm, and all the

919
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: little scrapings that he's cutting off. He just lays it

920
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: flat onto the stove, like no pan, no oil, and

921
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: just lays lays the trunks of meat out onto the

922
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: that's a good idea stove. And then just as he works,

923
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: that's what he has for a snack. You want to

924
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: talk about some tough bits, man, right, Yeah, that's so

925
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: he likes us a lot. He likes a chewy bit.

926
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: I feel that yellow cable has gotta be the chewiest

927
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: thing ever. I wonder if that's something that they're just

928
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: like kind of chewing on the past the time they're

929
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: talking about like and they cook some chewy meat, if

930
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: you remember, because they kind of like boil. They boil,

931
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: but not for long, just boil meat. Yeah, remember that, remember,

932
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: not being real impressed they're like flash boiled meat. Well,

933
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: because they they like to chew. They like to chew,

934
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: they like the cut. Here's a good one. Have you

935
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: noticed the difference in the taste of a fall black

936
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: bearon out of a spring bear? Yes, yeah, a big difference, man.

937
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: And then again it depends on we're gonna rule because

938
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: everything gets squirrely. No, let's keep it open to the

939
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: let's keep it open to nuance. Here if it has

940
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: the access to marine resources, meaning if it's a bear

941
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: eats on salmon and you know, dead seals, it finds

942
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: washed up on the beach and whatnot. Uh, I feel

943
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: that they're better in the spring, especially fall bears that

944
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: are on salmon are There are many, many exceptions. I'm

945
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: gonna people are gonna write it and be like it

946
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: does not true, but they are perceived. Black bears feeding

947
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: on salmon are perceived as being borderline inedible. And in

948
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: those marine areas, when bears in the spring are feeding

949
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: real heavily on vegetation, um, beach dry, you know, various

950
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: things they find and even little crabs and stuff from

951
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 1: unt of the rocks, they're regarded as being much more

952
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: palatable and better than fall bears. I think that that

953
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: becomes reversed for other reasons when you're talking about bears

954
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: that are not have access to marine resources such as

955
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: salmon runs. Because in the fall, thre eating a lot

956
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: of masks, thre eating a lot of berries, They're putting

957
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: on a good layer of fat. They have very good

958
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: fat for making large, and I think they're better than

959
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: to fall, but I don't I would suggest that doesn't

960
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: vary as much with interior bears, not as much variation,

961
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: because I mean I've eaten I've eaten a number of

962
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: different spring black bears from Montana that were just fabulous,

963
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: couldn't anything. Yeah, there's no off taste in meat, but

964
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: you don't have They're not like his robust and fatty, right,

965
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: and bear fat is good, yeah, but they'll still carry

966
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: a pretty healthy layer of fat sometimes in the spring.

967
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: You see them good and fatty in the spring. So

968
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: I can't think of ever like getting one. You could

969
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: actually render large off in the spring, but the spring

970
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: is a big window too, right. I remember I got

971
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: one on April seventeen, which is early. You can hunt

972
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: him to mid June. In Montana, there's some units and

973
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: then guys up Canada are hunting them into June. By

974
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: that time he's had two months to eat, so you

975
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: can be packing on some weight. Another guy road In says,

976
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: does bear lard go bad? Yeah, large goes bad? Now

977
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: large by definition that you've rendered it right, So you

978
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: gotten the impurities out and you got the water out

979
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: but I wound up just as a test when I

980
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: the animal that I wrote American that kind of like

981
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: the animal I wrote American Buffalo about my book. I

982
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: rendered a bunch of um. He had a real orangey

983
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: fat on them, because they like you know, process the

984
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: caroteen and things and they get like a nice orange,

985
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: yellowy fat in late summer. It's my understanding of how

986
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: that works. And I rendered a bunch of it out

987
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: and made a bunch of basically beef are because that

988
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: fat's good. Oh yeah, that that fat like beef fat,

989
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: not like tallow It's not like venison. It's not like

990
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: the waxy venison fat, which is which varies in it's

991
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 1: which varies in quality throughout the country in the time

992
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: of year, I believe. But their fat is good, like

993
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: you can leave the fat on and grill it and

994
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: it's good. And I have kind of the same color

995
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: as like duck fat. Yep, oh you know, cool yellowy

996
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: or that yellowy orange like kind of a not great

997
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: looking like you imagine orange that has like a not

998
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: super just yellow orange. Leave it at that. I rendered

999
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of it out because there's a lot of

1000
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: it on there. Um And I kept one. I liked

1001
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: having it so much that I didn't jar it and

1002
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: seal at pressure, seal it right now, just kept it

1003
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: in the jar. And I must have kept that stuff

1004
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: for seven I kept one little pint sized jar just

1005
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: for just because I like to have it in my fridge.

1006
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: I like looking at it. Um Over time, it was

1007
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: like this beautiful color in the beginning, and over time

1008
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: it just turned kind of gray, and eventually I thought

1009
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: it's some out and it had gone ransom. They had

1010
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: gone ransom. And if you leave, that's like one of

1011
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: the things like you if you leave. So he's talking

1012
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: about bear lard, which has been rendered, But if you

1013
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: leave fat on a bear in your freezer, it will

1014
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: it will go south on you in your freezer. You

1015
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: need to trim that stuff off when you freeze bear meat.

1016
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: But I don't know what it is about fat, but

1017
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: the salmon fat goes bad. And yeah, there's a lot

1018
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: of stuff that goes wrong with salmon in the freezer. Well,

1019
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: I think that fat in general, you just like most

1020
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: freezers aren't keeping it cold enough from preserving. Probably the

1021
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: only reason I know that kind of I feel like

1022
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: it would work with wild game fat when it does

1023
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: work with wild game. Is because an uncle of mine

1024
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: uh owns a place where they sell uh dipping dots

1025
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: ice cream, I believe is what it's called here about

1026
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: that all the time, I don't understand what. Yeah, I've

1027
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: never tried it myself either, but it's it's so high

1028
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: and fat. I guess that they had to put in

1029
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: when they became a purveyor of this product, they put

1030
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: in a freezer. That's the first time said purveyor on

1031
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: this show. I guarantee it. I like that that it's

1032
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: got to be kept at like minus thirty or something

1033
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: instead of just zero like a normal commercial freezer is

1034
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. And he killed an elp and he's like, yeah, man,

1035
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: six years later, still eating on that thing, and I

1036
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: swear it was like every bit as good as it was,

1037
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, six months after it because he had a

1038
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: high class freezer. Yeah, because he felt like it was

1039
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: keeping it so cold and his preserving it that much better. Yeah,

1040
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: those dipping dots are a weird consistency. I could see

1041
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: how you maybe have to do something different. He's just

1042
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: taken like a one roast per Christmas and that was it.

1043
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: Seriously through an elk in six months go ahead or anyone. Um. Yeah, Well,

1044
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: we all decided that this um was a good question,

1045
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: and this guy actually prepped his question with I'm hoping

1046
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: that it's the question of the century. Yeah. I don't

1047
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: need to hear that. I don't need to hear that,

1048
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: because Keith I can tell you that it's not. But

1049
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: I thought we're getting a laugh out of the way

1050
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: you're presenting it. So he he asks, Let's say you're

1051
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: on a budget and God comes down and holds a

1052
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: gun near your head. Okay, four forces you to choose

1053
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: between high end boots or high end glass, meaning optics.

1054
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: I've turned around grab that gun out of his hand

1055
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: so fast. But let's just say, I don't think it's

1056
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: you're saying. It's not what you're saying. God's not being

1057
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: fair with that question. No, I don't want to do

1058
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to black. I don't

1059
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: want to I don't want a blastpheme. But I'll say that, Um,

1060
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: I gotta know more. I gotta know what you're up

1061
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: to if you're a chucker hunter boots. Good point. Good point.

1062
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: Let's say a big game. Let's say Western big game

1063
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: optics for me, yeah, I feel like I think, like

1064
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: nice boots, but you can you can get it good.

1065
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: You can get a good pair of boots for less

1066
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: than you couldn't get it really, you know, expensive pair

1067
00:58:54,480 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: of boots. Yeah, you just keep wearing, you know, and uh,

1068
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 1: if you had to, you can hunt and bare feet

1069
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: and make some mocks sins. Yeah. And the thing is

1070
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: too if you get if you buy right on knocks,

1071
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: like if you buy like you buy a pair of

1072
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: Vortex knocks, you get great knocks. They're not gonna kill

1073
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: you on cost. And if your house burns down, they

1074
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: replace them as long as you got something to show

1075
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: for him. And I still got the lanyard. And even

1076
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: the most expensive boots I've ever had in my life,

1077
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,479
Speaker 1: they still last me like a season and a half.

1078
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: You can't wear out boots and send them in. You

1079
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: can wear out knocks and send them in. You can

1080
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: with some companies. I sent in a sending a pair

1081
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: of last year, and they re rebuilt them for me

1082
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: for like thirty bucks. Rebuilt that's true on them. They

1083
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: didn't put a new soul on them for me. That

1084
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: was like another like hundred and twenty five or something.

1085
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, these will just be my pack

1086
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: boots and you can send in to get redone, and

1087
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: like like White's pack boots, you can send in to

1088
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: get redone. These are kind of tracks got you. Okay,

1089
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: so you can't a little bit, but not the same way.

1090
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: You're not bringing them back. I'm still not giving it

1091
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: the fact that it just really depends. But in general,

1092
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: let's say, okay, so my life, the way my life

1093
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: is like what I do, all the things I do. Man,

1094
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: it's really tough because it just really depends. I've said

1095
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: a thousand times. I've just's got a gun to your

1096
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: head right now. Man, Well that's that's why it doesn't

1097
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: like equivocation. Let's go, let's go to last weekend squirrel hunt,

1098
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: pretty mellow walk about knocks, Right, you're still going to

1099
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 1: choose that could have been out there and flip flops.

1100
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't liked it a little bit, even kind of Morgan,

1101
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: you're you're with knocks too. Yep, I'm on the glass. Sorry, Keith,

1102
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: good question, but not the best of the SENTI to

1103
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: be the question of the century. You're only gonna live,

1104
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: like all of us in this room, we'll touch into

1105
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: our early eighties. And will die, So that would have

1106
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: to be you didn't even get a full century when

1107
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: it's all said and done. Generally, he's saying that he

1108
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: would have had the so in all your entire life,

1109
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: that that would be the best question. Like you're on

1110
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: your dying bed, You're you're dying and like someone says,

1111
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: you know in all these years, man, like you know

1112
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: as you fade out of consciousness, Um, what was the

1113
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: what was the best question you've ever heard? Right? Really

1114
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: obscure hypothetical. I came up one time and emailed to

1115
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: a podcast. It's kind of like the ever debatable question.

1116
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 1: People are expecting him to be like, what's the meaning

1117
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: of it all? Or like this is really the end?

1118
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 1: There is it only the beginning? But he'd be like,

1119
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: answ your boots. You gotta lean down into his ear

1120
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: to hear it, into his mouth to hear it. Okay,

1121
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: here's one. Why are some squirrels tougher than others? I

1122
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: think its age definitely? Why you? Why are you peeking

1123
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: over my area? I want to see what you're working

1124
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: off of over there? Why are some squirrels tougher and others?

1125
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: Are you getting frustrated with? What's on, He's like, he

1126
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: cooks up he was cooking up some buffalo hot legs.

1127
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: Kudos to him. He's cooking up some buffalo hot legs

1128
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: from the Meatator Fishing Game cookbook available now. And uh

1129
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: and he's noticing how some are real, a real bite,

1130
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: and some are just phenomenal. And he says it doesn't

1131
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: seem to be related to size. M hmm. I think

1132
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: I believe that it's a function of age. Well is

1133
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: he is he assumed? Are we assuming that he shot

1134
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: all those squirrels and one outing? You know, because if

1135
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: if one it was was sitting in the fridge or

1136
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: freezer longer could understand why that would have that the

1137
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: meat would have aged good idea. We're uh, yeah, he's

1138
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna start a thing. Can I talk about this? I

1139
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: think so, I don't know what you're talking about. For

1140
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: questions like this, for questions like this, where you go

1141
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: you get the question, you're like, yeah, there's gotta be

1142
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: more to the story. Yeah, Yani is gonna start a

1143
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: thing called ask the Eagle where you get where when

1144
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: you when you're like, what really happened? Because it'd be

1145
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: like someone be like, oh, you know, I was out

1146
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: and Um, you know, a guy shot at me and

1147
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I shot at him. Who was right? And be like

1148
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 1: I just gotta have to get him on the phone

1149
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 1: to find out, Like a little more so, this would

1150
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: be a good thing to ask the eagle because then

1151
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: you can dig in and get him on the phone

1152
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: and find out what exactly, because he might not know

1153
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: that to ask the right questions. Yeah, there's a lot

1154
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: of factors that go into that kind of stuff that

1155
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: can be pretty easily missed. I didn't start to pay

1156
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: attention to aging until a couple of years ago. When

1157
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm not saying aging age, Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree,

1158
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, I'm addressing both. Suppose because like in

1159
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: the Scope the A's cookbook lagi q lan Air, he

1160
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: says that he only will cook a rabbit if you

1161
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: can tear the rabbit's ear like paper. I mean, you

1162
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: should just be all grab it like you're ripping paper.

1163
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: And after young rabbits look at you know, young cottail

1164
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: or hair. When he's dead, you can grab its ear

1165
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: and you should be able to go like this and

1166
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 1: you can tear the ear. That's a young rabbit, that

1167
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: that is okay to cook. And he could afford to

1168
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: be picky. I mean, he's like my brothers would have

1169
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: been perfect for that. He was chasing a rabbit around

1170
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: a brush pile for like forty five minutes and he

1171
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: probably had ten holes in his ear from the brush well,

1172
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: no from him shooting at twenty two at it and

1173
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 1: missing him, just hitting his ears, so it was like perforated.

1174
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: So then yeah, that he might have had a false positive.

1175
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Just Scoffe mentioned what he did with the rabbits that

1176
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: whose ears he couldn't rip, He probably would have ground

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01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: them up and used them for dog food. No, he

1178
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: would have ground them up and use them in in

1179
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: pattes and to make canals and stuff like that would

1180
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: be my guests. But for these, you know, for his

1181
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: preparations of like whole muscle preparations, he liked to be

1182
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 1: able to tear the ear and then you knew he

1183
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: had a nice tender specimen. I might start doing that,

1184
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: and then I'm just gonna turn my other rabbits like

1185
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Murphy did, into rots. It's not a bad idea,

1186
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: because man, those were good. Yeah, rabbit brots, white brots,

1187
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: fat man, I forgot about those rabbit bros. Yeah, those

1188
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: were delicious. Some bitch. We should put that in the cookbook.

1189
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: What kind of spices you throw in there? What's a

1190
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: flavor profile? Oh? Man, I don't know if I can

1191
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: remember off that my head. Oh like just for brots,

1192
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: for those like white pepper, corianders, a bunch of things

1193
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: you put in brods. Yeah, people put mace in the rocks. Yeah,

1194
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: but that pretty classic beer brody, you know, not Italian

1195
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: not you know, there's no spice, you know, mild beer

1196
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: brody kind of flavor. What else you got seacon of

1197
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: eating wild game? He said? He says, He says it's

1198
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: a wild game logistical question. He hasn't found a definitive

1199
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: answer too, after a decent amount of research, which is

1200
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: so I'm just guessing that nobody's in a blog post

1201
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: about it. I have searched high and low. How's he's

1202
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: on the library looking up the card You open up

1203
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: the card catalog. How much wild game do you think

1204
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: it takes to feed a family of four? And then specifically,

1205
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: he asked, you, guys, keep track of how many animals

1206
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: you and your family eating a given year. It's hard

1207
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 1: to answer, just depends on your habits, right, Like, well,

1208
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: let me do for instance, I was having this conversation

1209
01:06:53,800 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: with Brodie. Here you got family of four, very strict

1210
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: wild game diet. Brody's got through a coyle, moose, cow,

1211
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: elk and a box that's like you know, eating at home,

1212
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: and when you're eating at home, you're eating and he

1213
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: throws down heavy on game and then a variety of

1214
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: small games thrown in. I kind of look at it

1215
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 1: because I could do a lot of, like you know,

1216
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: I get to do like a fair bit of It's

1217
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: harder for me to answer because we fish a lot

1218
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: um small game a lot. But then the other thing

1219
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: is is we when we're out, like most of my

1220
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: hunting is when we're out filming the TV show. And

1221
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: so then we have a crew, and with our crew

1222
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: we divide out, so like if we get an elk,

1223
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, there's an elk, but then it's it's

1224
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: the sixth of an elk or a fourth of an

1225
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 1: elk when we divide out for because we split out

1226
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: for the crew, so I never get like an accurate count.

1227
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 1: And then I also get a lot of stuff from

1228
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: buddies right where Buddy minal whatever, Buddy min will get

1229
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: a wild hell oh you know here here's a pig

1230
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: leg and then later I catch some salmon and I'll be, oh,

1231
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: bro here's a couple of salmon flays. So it's like,

1232
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: I never like look at it in terms of but

1233
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: Brody has a good count. But that's that's not extreme,

1234
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: but it's pretty that's a lot. Yeah, but it seems

1235
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: like a lot. I don't think it is. I know

1236
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: that because he's devoted. Yeah, before um, I had kids

1237
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: and so it's because kids and met a kind of

1238
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 1: started the same time for me. But prior to that,

1239
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: my wife and I would go through to elk no

1240
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: problem every year. And it wasn't like, you know, we

1241
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 1: ate elk, but it wasn't like we were trying to

1242
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: eat elk five times a week. You know. It's just

1243
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: like when we when we ate read meat, that's what

1244
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: we ate. But there's no problem to go through to

1245
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: two cow elk. It depends on how you're cooking, too,

1246
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: because if you get like, if you're sitting high on

1247
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: the hog, right, you got a full freezer, which is

1248
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: how I look at it. But I just always watching

1249
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: my free your levels. But you know, if you're sitting

1250
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: pretty you might be doing things you're doing like big rows.

1251
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,520
Speaker 1: If you're sitting thin, you might be making like fajitas

1252
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: or something right where it. So you take like a

1253
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 1: you could have family five sown and you get one

1254
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: pound of like a one pound roll stout and make

1255
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: like a dish that has like the nice flavor and

1256
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: it's fun and everything, and it's like a wild game dish.

1257
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: But it's not like you're sitting down and laying out

1258
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,240
Speaker 1: big rolls where people are eating wedges off that thing.

1259
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: So just it just depends so much. Yeah, I feel

1260
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: like I've heard like one guy can take down an

1261
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 1: elk throughout the year, like that's kind of the ratio. Sure,

1262
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: but I mean it's subjective like how you're eating. Absolutely yeah,

1263
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: but you yeah, I think that one person who's a

1264
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 1: dedicated wild game eater is puts the elk in the

1265
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: freezer and you got, yeah, you got like a with

1266
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: that you could probably even have you could be having

1267
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: a little breakfast sausage. Now. Then when someone says an

1268
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: elk that could be as little as sixty five or

1269
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds of meat, Yeah, exactly, So big variants there. Um, yeah,

1270
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better at that. You know who I'm

1271
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: gonna ask and get and we'll bring this up. There's

1272
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: no you can't get better at it. There's no because listen,

1273
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: what you could do is by weight. You could very

1274
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: easily just be have a scale in the kitchen and

1275
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: every time you go to cook, you just, you know,

1276
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: weigh it, make a little note somewhere, and at the

1277
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: end of the year you tally it up and say,

1278
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: you know what, we ate three d pounds elk, thirty

1279
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: pounds of turkeys perch flats, like there's two pounds perch

1280
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: plays right, write it down there, you go, let's do it. Yeah,

1281
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: that'd be cool man, to have a little list. You

1282
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: take it out, weigh it, write it down, and then

1283
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh, so we ate seventy some pounds

1284
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: of venison, thirteen pounds of perch filets, x pounds of

1285
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: catfish pile AT's And then if you wanted to, you

1286
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: could take cucumbers, averages all those animals, and then you

1287
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: could say I ate roughly x pounds wild game to elk,

1288
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: and roughly for turkeys. Yeah, man, because I feel like

1289
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: I could amount of stuff I kill. I mean, I'm

1290
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: mostly cooking for one I could eat while game, breakfast, lunch,

1291
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: and dinner every day of the year and still have

1292
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: game left over. And then you got like social media

1293
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: personalities who there's no you can't account there's no possible

1294
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: way to account for all of the stuff they kill,

1295
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, wow, game bro, Wow, game bro. You

1296
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: realize dude, you shot thousands and thousands of pounds of meat.

1297
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: Where'd that all go? So yeah, you wind up like

1298
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 1: it's just like I know enough to know when's like

1299
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: I don't enough to know when when I see something

1300
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: little fish, and then you kind of know enough to

1301
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: know when you I don't know nothing but tender lewins.

1302
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had people level that at me, Like

1303
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: I last year, I killed a bowl elk elk and

1304
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: too mature mule here bucks and that's way more than

1305
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: one man can can eat in a year. But I

1306
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: went home a couple of times and filled my YETI

1307
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: one oh five to the brim and gave it to

1308
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 1: my parents, gave it my cousins, give me an uncle

1309
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: and the party with it. Yeah, exactly, smoke something, party

1310
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: with some it's some fun thing to do and then

1311
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 1: like do some sharkottery just like kind of like yeah,

1312
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: around with some experiments of what you want to do.

1313
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: And when I live in Seattle, I practice a lot

1314
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: of wild game diplomacy with the people around. But that

1315
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: with that kind of thing, I would uh, because I

1316
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 1: lived around a bunch of people that had no connection

1317
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 1: to like this kind of little connection to fishing, like

1318
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: absolutely no connection or idea about hunting. And um, I'm

1319
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 1: thinking primarily three, like my three most immediate neighbors, and

1320
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: I would bring them a lot, but I would bring

1321
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 1: them not so much sometimes frozen, but I would bring

1322
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: them recipe ready stuff, not like you're trying to dump,

1323
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, some frozen game bag full of Harry trim

1324
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: off on someone's doorstep. But I would bring them like,

1325
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, it's trimmed. Here's what I would

1326
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: suggest you do with it. You know, here's a fish flat.

1327
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: I pulled the pin bones and and it was it

1328
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: was cool man. So yeah, yeah, I do do a

1329
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: lot of I do give and receive a lot of

1330
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 1: uh wild game gifts. But here's another way to approach

1331
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: answering it. Let's say you take a turkey. So you

1332
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: got you, you're you and your husband, you and your husband,

1333
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: you shoot a turkey, and you're gonna cook for you

1334
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: and your husband. I think that you have each lobe

1335
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 1: of the breast is a meal or two for you

1336
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: and your husband. The two drumsticks, depending if you're like

1337
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: if you're let's say you make soup with the two drumsticks.

1338
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: There's a couple of meals, a few meals for you

1339
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: and your husband, and you smoke up the wing pieces

1340
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: and add them to a gumbo or whatever, and there's

1341
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: like an additional part for the meal. Or you take

1342
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: all of that. You've got a big old time that

1343
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: tom ways twenty pounds. You take all that you want

1344
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: to make breakfast sausage out of it, you wind up

1345
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: with like eight pounds of turkey meat. You cut in

1346
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: a substantial amount of pork trim, so you put in

1347
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: four pounds of pork trim. You make a twelve pound

1348
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: batch of apple turkey breakfast sausage out of the mediator.

1349
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: Fishing game cookbooks say um, and then you frap little

1350
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: patties for your breakfast and stuff you can you can

1351
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: eat it twenty five times. There's lots of great ways

1352
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: to stretch it out like that. What's next? You got one?

1353
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 1: You said you gotta listen a mile along. Yeah, but

1354
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: I want you hit me one of years. I can

1355
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 1: keep going. I'll do one. Lots of questions about this.

1356
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: What are those little things around the end of y'all

1357
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 1: shooting irons? That's what he says. Is it tape? Do

1358
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: you just shoot through it? Does it affect the bullet?

1359
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: Why is it even there? Yes, um, all of the

1360
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,639
Speaker 1: above and no. So it's yes. And now I'll start

1361
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: with yes. Is yes, it's tape, But it could be

1362
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: any number of things. It's like, it's common practice. If

1363
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: you're around mud, if you're around a lot of rain,

1364
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: especially rain that could become freezing rain, snow that you're

1365
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: around snow, Um, you could get things that get into

1366
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: that obstruct your barrel by getting into your muzzle. Um,

1367
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 1: And and it's a good idea to keep that stuff out.

1368
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 1: You can keep it out. There's thousands of ways of

1369
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: doing this. They make. Some guys will use finger cots,

1370
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: which is a little condom looking and prophylactic looking a

1371
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: little deally. You know what prophylactic means. It just means

1372
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: disease prevention device, something that prevents disease. UM doesn't necessarily

1373
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: mean a prophylactic. How we would how you'd use it, Uh,

1374
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 1: put a finger coot over your barrel. I don't like

1375
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: those because they break and they seem to get brittle

1376
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: when it's super cold out and they just don't last

1377
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: that long. Or you can take like a little piece

1378
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 1: of ziplock baggy or anything and place it over the

1379
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: muzzle and wrap a piece of medical tape, which is

1380
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: what I do quite often over it. Electrical tape. You

1381
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 1: put a piece over it and then put a wrap

1382
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: around it to keep it from peeling off. I mean,

1383
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: there's a thousand things, and it's just to keep junk

1384
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: out of there. Yeah. The thing I think people are

1385
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: really afraid of that can cause real trouble and injury.

1386
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 1: I've never had a barrel blow up from from and obstruction,

1387
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: but the stories you hear would be that you got

1388
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of wet snow in there, You got a

1389
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: bunch of water in there, and then it got cold

1390
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: and it froze and and like formed a block ice

1391
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 1: that was like adhered to the walls you know the

1392
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: inside of your barrel or you know the inside of

1393
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: the bore, and you could potentially blow your gun up. Yeah,

1394
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: because the amount of pressure that can build up in there,

1395
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: either that or like a wet mud, like a clay

1396
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 1: mud or something like that. Yeah, the stories you hear

1397
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 1: most or something got in there and froze solid. But

1398
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: I've never had it happened. But I just do it

1399
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: because why it's so easy to do it, and there's

1400
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 1: no negative, Like why not do it if you're in

1401
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: a place that's real wet and nasty. Yeah, And I've

1402
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: had I've been asked that this question a number of

1403
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 1: times because I've always my whole life have put electrical

1404
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: tape around the barrel of a guy. I mean, my

1405
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,960
Speaker 1: dad taught me that when we first went deer hunting.

1406
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: So it's always seemed like normalist thing in the world.

1407
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: But a lot of friends have asked me about that,

1408
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: and people are always what does that mess with your

1409
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 1: bullet flight? Does that slow it down? Like, man, I

1410
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: really don't think so, Like you know, rifle blasts and

1411
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: muzzle blast, that tape probably gone before the bullet. Yeah.

1412
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: This last trip poem, I went down and talked to

1413
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: a buddy. He's like friend of mine from high school,

1414
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 1: and he turned into a Kansas Highway patrol state like

1415
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: swat sniper and I asked him specifically on that, and

1416
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: he said that like the gases pushing forward knocks that

1417
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: out way in advance to like affect that bullet. There's

1418
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,839
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I've talked to all manner

1419
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: of of of high end shooters who would know enough

1420
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: to know, and the consensus for sure is that it

1421
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: doesn't do it. And it went early on when I

1422
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: really first got onto doing that. If I had something heavy,

1423
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: like like electrical tape, I would oftentimes if I was

1424
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: in the moment of truth, I'd oftentimes catch myself reaching

1425
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 1: out there to peel it off. Just that a little

1426
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: bit of nervous. But yeah, I've shot through it many

1427
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: many times. Um, I haven't done a lot of I

1428
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: haven't done like a rigid round of range testing on

1429
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: it to be interesting to do it be interesting, But

1430
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: I just there's so many people whose opinion I trust,

1431
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: who I've talked to about it, that it's Yanni's got

1432
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: opinions by sitting there though so quiet. Um No, I mean,

1433
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: I can just say that I've tried it at the

1434
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: range and I've shot the same size groups shooting through

1435
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: tape as I have, you know, just with a without

1436
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: tape on my be a fun little video to shoot. Yeah,

1437
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 1: for sure, there's people that have done it on the

1438
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: old YouTube. Um, but yeah, it's the way to be man,

1439
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: keep it protected. Okay, your turn? Uh you boys got you?

1440
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: Guys got burned in one year? Yeah, I got one.

1441
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: I'd love to talk about. Go for it, Sam, Yeah,

1442
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: I was looking at this one. This guy says, I

1443
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: joined Instagram recently and have already seen a few instances

1444
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: of anti would hunter sentiment. Of course, it shouldn't matter

1445
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: to an ethical law by any hunter what others think.

1446
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: But I was curious what exactly counts as road hunting.

1447
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 1: On the extreme, one could strictly define it as someone

1448
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: who drives around all day glassing from the truck or

1449
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: a TV, really rarely leaving the car until an animals found.

1450
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 1: Is this actually illegal in some states as a parenthetical clause?

1451
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: But there's a spectrum here. I wonder what the where

1452
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: the line is typically drawn. Mm hmm, you're gonna start,

1453
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: I'll start. I don't give a ship go ahead. This

1454
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 1: is coming from a guy that does a fair bit

1455
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: of road hunt, meaning like like he's right, it's hard

1456
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: to define if the other day we were out uh

1457
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,639
Speaker 1: me and Yanni were oute messing around, and we stopped

1458
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: a vehicle, rolled the window down, and we're glass and

1459
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 1: some sandstone outcrops for cotton tales. I mean, let's be straight,

1460
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: if we'd have found one, we'd gone after it. So

1461
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 1: it's like, right there, there's a spot I want to

1462
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: go check for cotton tails not long from now, and

1463
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 1: my and and and what I'm gonna do before I

1464
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: get rolling is I'm gonna go and check a bunch

1465
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 1: of little willow bottoms that I could pretty much look

1466
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: out the window to see if they're they're tracked up.

1467
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: I keep a window mount and my spotting scope in

1468
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: my truck that so if I can just roll down

1469
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: the window, mount up to scope and look out, that's yeah.

1470
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 1: But is that scouting or is that hunting? Well? I

1471
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 1: was damn sure hunting all day when I was looking

1472
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: for cotton tails on those these outcrops, because if I

1473
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: would have found one, I would have got. I would

1474
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: have got, we'd have got the kids out and gone

1475
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 1: and one after it, and we'd have glassed it up

1476
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 1: from the rig. I think when people use road hunter

1477
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: in a in a negative way, it would be like

1478
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: hut the window shooting out like shooting out of which

1479
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: is illegal. So it's illegal to shoot out of your truck.

1480
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Depending it's illegal to shoot out of your truck if

1481
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: you're on a maintained road, so you can't shoot from

1482
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 1: a cross from the right up from the legal right

1483
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 1: away of roads. So I think when people talk about

1484
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: a road like when when if someone uses road hunter negatively,

1485
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: I think it's like someone who's hunt plan. Okay, their

1486
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: hunt plan is to drive around heater blasting um yeah,

1487
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 1: eating chester fried chicken. They bought the gas station, knocking

1488
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: that back, with the plan being that they're gonna find

1489
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 1: something and shoot it from out the truck window. Uh,

1490
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 1: laws be damned. I don't know, Like that's what comes

1491
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,240
Speaker 1: to my mind. Well, and there's a lot of Western

1492
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: hunters who who don't want to shoot a deer and

1493
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 1: elk more than quarter miles from the road, because how

1494
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: the hell else are you going to get back to

1495
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: the house and everyone looks like you could be driving

1496
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 1: along um headed to a place that you intend to

1497
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: begin walking. I've had this turkey hunt driv into my

1498
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 1: turkey hunting spot. I remember one time I was with

1499
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: my late buddy Eric Current and we're driving our turkey

1500
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 1: on spot. We crossed over a drainage and we look

1501
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: and see some turkeys. Right. We were actually in the

1502
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: truth be told. We were actually had to a place

1503
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: we we hunt turkeys in a place where you had

1504
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: to you had to to hunt it realistically, you had

1505
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: to hike in and sleep out. But it wasn't like

1506
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: we like, we see these turkeys and we just pulled

1507
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: over once and started to try to work the birds.

1508
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 1: So someone like, oh, there's a bunch of road hunters.

1509
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: But you know, it's funny you mentioned at the moment,

1510
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 1: at the moment you caught me. Sure. A friend of

1511
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 1: my dad's when I was growing up, I remember we

1512
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 1: were turkey hunting in eastern Washington, and I remember him saying, oh,

1513
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: even if I saw dirty pound tom from the truck,

1514
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: I'd never shoot it. Never. I'd never shoot an animal

1515
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: I spotted from the truck. And he spotted from the truck.

1516
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: That's because you're not hunting, you're not out on foot.

1517
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: And that was just like that was his own, like

1518
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: Etho surround would Yeah, I would never block a fella

1519
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 1: from having his own. Everybody sets out there on guardrails, right, absolutely,

1520
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: But I mean I've done that. I've done that too

1521
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: my dear camp this year. The first day we drove

1522
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,959
Speaker 1: out there, we we saw enough bucks between our campground

1523
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: and the trailhead that we all could have tagged out

1524
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: in the first hour of the first day, and none

1525
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: of us took a shot because we were just getting

1526
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: out there. And I was like, Oh, this isn't this

1527
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: isn't how we this is how we pictured. It isn't

1528
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: the experience we were looking for. So I think that's

1529
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 1: what it comes down to for some people. So I

1530
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't begrudge folks who, you know, don't feel

1531
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: comfortable walking around a lot too back roads in Montana,

1532
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: driving around trying to figure out where the deer are

1533
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: and then get out and do it, do it right.

1534
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: But you know, personally, I like to be a couple

1535
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: of miles back with a backpack on glassing and feel

1536
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: like I'm you know, engaging with the the environment. The

1537
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: other day, we're I was taking my had all three

1538
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: of my kids and we were going out to sit

1539
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: for white tailed does um and we had a pop

1540
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: up blind set up harding for the yards from where

1541
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: we could part, and right away we pulled up lo

1542
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: and behold out pops from wind row out pops a

1543
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: bunch of does in range, and we still got the

1544
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 1: back of the you know, back of the truck open.

1545
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 1: My boy was like very interested in us getting this

1546
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 1: taken care of right here and now, and I didn't

1547
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: because it wasn't what I was trying to demonstrate to them.

1548
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: We had gone and put up a pop up bland.

1549
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: We're talking about the need to be sitting and quietly

1550
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,880
Speaker 1: waiting and how all this worked and that that they

1551
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: would come out to feed at night and right and

1552
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he was pissed. But I

1553
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: was like, no, because this isn't like I'm showing you

1554
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: a thing, and this is what I'm showing you. I'm

1555
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: not showing you this right Um. If it had been

1556
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: like the last day of the season and we put

1557
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: in our time and we're going back after our last

1558
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: morning hunt and out pops them out of the wind

1559
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: roll right down the road, it would be It's just

1560
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: a different situation. It's like and it's like it's not

1561
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 1: like something that you can explain or or or prescribe

1562
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: to another individual and be like Oh no, here's what

1563
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 1: you should and shouldn't do. It's just like it's just

1564
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: your eyes just running in your head. Man, should always

1565
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 1: run in your head. Yeah, I always. I always encourage

1566
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 1: people to just you know, try wandering around because I know,

1567
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. I mean that's to me, that's what's fun

1568
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: about hunting is the exploration aspect of it. And and

1569
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,680
Speaker 1: so many, so many people just don't feel like they can,

1570
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, know how to break down an animal that

1571
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 1: they can't drag to the truck or or know their

1572
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: way to you know, how to figure out how to

1573
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: get back to the truck. And yeah, I mean I

1574
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 1: understand that, but encourage people to learn and say that

1575
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: it might deepen the experience. The other thing about it

1576
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: that makes me uncomfortab bull is that different people have

1577
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 1: different abilities, and people have a lot of people have

1578
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: pretty serious disabilities. Man. So you were like, oh, yeah,

1579
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: road hunters, road hunters, they're no good. It's like, you

1580
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 1: know what, there's a lot of people, I mean, they

1581
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: don't have the luxury man, because of any number of things, age,

1582
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 1: physical condition, disabilities. So it's like I hate to, like,

1583
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, to act like oh like the I hate

1584
01:27:28,280 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: to act like there's these like broad condemnations of behavior

1585
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 1: that exists out there when it just is like, you know,

1586
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like, yeah, I know what's in their heart. Yeah,

1587
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 1: I'm supportive of people getting out hunting hard to know

1588
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: something in someone and and honestly, like if if there's

1589
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 1: guys doing that, I mean, it's that's not really affecting

1590
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: what you're doing. If you're hiking, you know, deep into

1591
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 1: a wilderness area. I mean, if anything, they're proving your

1592
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: point that you know, getting far back, getting away from

1593
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: the road has been official because a lot of a

1594
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: lot of people do hunt from the truck. A lot

1595
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: of people hunt for the truck who wouldn't even admit

1596
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:09,640
Speaker 1: that they hunt from the truck. So it's a I

1597
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: think doesn't doesn't affect me as long as they let

1598
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 1: me get by them. When they're creeping up before a

1599
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: service road at five miles an hour thinking they're sneaking

1600
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: up on ship, they are. I've seen it. They are

1601
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: sneaking up on stuff. Man. It can it can be

1602
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: a were a tactic that works. You know, they take

1603
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 1: out like a pres or something that's that's that's silent

1604
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 1: under a certain RPM I don't know. It's like the

1605
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 1: old rancher man that drives like animals, never scared of

1606
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: the ranch because the ranch truck just drives all over

1607
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 1: the ranch every day. But yeah, as long as it's legal,

1608
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it. I've done No. I wanted

1609
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: to say my fair share, but I dabbled in shooting

1610
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: some deer literally out of a truck where it was

1611
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,680
Speaker 1: legal to do that, and it and p you're on

1612
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 1: private property. No, and like you said, un maintained you

1613
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: know in Nebraska, and um, it was novel at the moment.

1614
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: But by the time, like my third dough was dead.

1615
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 1: This is back when they had a booming deer population.

1616
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: We had lots of dough tags to phil Um, it's like, okay,

1617
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: that was enough of that. You know, I'm gonna go

1618
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: take my rifle for a walk, just out stacking them

1619
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: up like cordwood in the back of your truck. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1620
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 1: And like the first two evenings it was like, wow,

1621
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I never thought, you know, because I didn't grow up.

1622
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: You know, you couldn't do that in Michigan, right, Some

1623
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: guys use some guys love to see road hunters because

1624
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,400
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, man, you know that are you're gonna

1625
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: go there and you're gonna think it's super crowded, but

1626
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: it's all road hunters, So don't worry about it, meaning

1627
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: that there's still you're gonna It has the appearance of

1628
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: being overplayed, but it's not over played because I mean,

1629
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: you like hike down in some little spot that's that

1630
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: you can't see from the road. That's a big handle,

1631
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: that's a big anilo put there like a big thing

1632
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: with anilo punt. There's I think there's a lot of

1633
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: people who have the mistaken notion because it seems like

1634
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: you're in flat open country that feel as though when

1635
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: you take gander out across the landscape, they feel like

1636
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 1: they're seeing it and you're just not. There are so

1637
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: many dips in pockets, and it's just like you can

1638
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: out walk that stuff like I don't care if you

1639
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 1: look and you see like I can see clear to

1640
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 1: you know yonder Mesa. You don't head toward that mason

1641
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 1: same direction. You're finding all kinds of animals that you

1642
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: do not see, and so it's um, yeah, I'll oftentimes

1643
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: get out like think you're seeing it all from the

1644
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: truck when we would get out and hunt the same

1645
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: country and have a very different experience bumping animals along

1646
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: the way, have very different experience than what you thought

1647
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: you were seeing. What you're looking out. Unless you're looking

1648
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: out in a salt pan, you don't know what's going on.

1649
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Ady for another one. Yep, what's his fellow's name? Before

1650
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: I get Before I get to that one. This Chuck's

1651
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: wondering what your thoughts on the flick, Jeremiah Johnson are.

1652
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I've talked about that. It's the greatest, one

1653
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: of the greatest movies ever made, straight greatest movies ever made.

1654
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:28,680
Speaker 1: The ending of that movie is one of the saddest things. Um,

1655
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 1: one of the saddest, most contemplative exchanges ever captured in

1656
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:41,719
Speaker 1: American cinema. Loaded with symbolism, wonderful movie. There's a little

1657
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: little corny moment, a corny moment or two that I

1658
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 1: wish they would have chopped out splashing around the creek

1659
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: trying to catch a trout. That and I'm particularly thinking

1660
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: like the great character Bear Claw Chris clapp One, a

1661
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 1: great character played by Grandpa Walton. Um, uh, little little

1662
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,719
Speaker 1: corn pone, you know, but my god, does that movie

1663
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: wind up just being like being a pretty profound movie

1664
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: about loneliness. Can you rewatch it yet? No, I'm glad

1665
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: you just brought it up from going on holiday movie. Well,

1666
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, it might like there's parts of it that

1667
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 1: would confuse them a little bit. There's there's some there's death.

1668
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, there's like death and insanity and stuff and there.

1669
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 1: It might be confusing to kids, but they can they

1670
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 1: can hack it pretty good. In terms of kids. I'm

1671
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 1: using in favor of I'm usually a little ahead of

1672
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: the I get them rolling on stuff earlier than you're

1673
01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: supposed to in terms of what you expose them to.

1674
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: Kind of going explanations with them. Opens up good conversations, man,

1675
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: opens up good conversations. Yeah, I'm not like one of those.

1676
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean they've got you know, there's I'm sure there's

1677
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,800
Speaker 1: like a lot of great parents who are very you know,

1678
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: want to have like the world's all innocent and all that,

1679
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know what you get

1680
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: from painting a picture of the world being all in

1681
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: the children that naive children's what you get personally. That's

1682
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: my feeling on it. But I have But but again,

1683
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 1: you know, if I could have had parallel lives and

1684
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:14,800
Speaker 1: raise some one way and raise something the other day,

1685
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: and then compared him at the end. I don't have

1686
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: that luxury. So it's just gut instant because I don't

1687
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: want a dog on any parents who who who? I

1688
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: don't want a dog on parents who are real protective.

1689
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: But no, we kind of roll out the ugly realities

1690
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: and the beautiful realities. Um. With that said, I would

1691
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: show him, but I have not yet. It's a profound

1692
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: movie if you. I think it's a profound movie if

1693
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: you look at it in the right way and pay

1694
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: attention to what to the things that are said, especially

1695
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 1: the end when he's cooking at rabbit. That's gonna be

1696
01:33:45,800 --> 01:33:50,719
Speaker 1: a tough ass rabbit. The way he's cook just skinned

1697
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 1: out rabbit stuck on a skewer ten years since I's

1698
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: gonna be chewing he's in. And the thing is, he's

1699
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 1: cooking a rabbit out a spit in any any tear.

1700
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, he goes and tears off a

1701
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:06,799
Speaker 1: piece of that rabbit. He like tears off his shoulder,

1702
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: off that cotton tail, And I'm like, bullshit, you raise

1703
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: that rabbit? Yeah, yeah, maybe he is lathering it up

1704
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: with something he had wrapped and foil, and then he's

1705
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,080
Speaker 1: just putting a final little singe on it. But he's yeah,

1706
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: he's cooking. He's cooking up wrapped me. My buddy Ben

1707
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Freed and we were little kids would cook cotton tails

1708
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: that way. And I'm telling you, man, but he's cooking.

1709
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: He's got a high above the flame. He's got the

1710
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,759
Speaker 1: right idea. But he tears off a hunt and throws

1711
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 1: it the bear cross, bear clawed Chris Clap and bear claw.

1712
01:34:39,720 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 1: Chris Clap observes how he's learned to cook rabbit very well,

1713
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 1: but still I wasn't buying it. Lance rode in and

1714
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: he says, uh, my right, what are you gonna say

1715
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: about Jeremiah Johnson? Why did you ask the question? I

1716
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 1: gave the answer. Why don't got an answer? Nothing to

1717
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: say about it? Why did you pick it? Because I

1718
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: thought it'd be interesting to hear your answer? Doesn't it specifically?

1719
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Ask Steve's opinion? It does, actually, But I mean, I

1720
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: think it's a good movie. I just haven't um I

1721
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:16,640
Speaker 1: couldn't articulate like that, and I haven't um digested it

1722
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: quite to the point that you have, you know, Yeah,

1723
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 1: he's coming up from the from the Mexican War. He's

1724
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: damaged goods, he's got PTSD. What's what they'd call it.

1725
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: Now you gather he's been damaged from the war. Comes

1726
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,720
Speaker 1: up the trap all right, but he's too late. The

1727
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 1: beaver market already collapsed. It's a sad movie. If you're

1728
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: listening property, it's a sad movie. Anyone would know what's

1729
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: a sad movie. But there's some, there's some, there's some

1730
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,200
Speaker 1: like there's some good stuff. So we got one from

1731
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Kevin and it's one of you guys have already touched on.

1732
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: But it's about bird hunting and like how to pull

1733
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: shot and like being scared about giving people who are

1734
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 1: just getting used to the to wild meat. Um. So

1735
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 1: it's firstly, after cleaning ten or fifteen birds of my

1736
01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 1: own prior or with no experience, I got a lot

1737
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 1: better at the process. However, no matter how to go

1738
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: about it, he's still finding shot in the birds, and

1739
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: he's wondering, is there a reliable way to like give

1740
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: this bird meat to people without having shot in it.

1741
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 1: So the first thing I would say, like I've been

1742
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: like a lifelong bird hunter out in Kansas, uh and

1743
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: one technique that I just found. It was like taking

1744
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,400
Speaker 1: the bird's hole, putting him in water, and like sprinkling

1745
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:32,600
Speaker 1: in like a couple of teaspoons of salt. And like

1746
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,439
Speaker 1: when that shot comes in and hits the bird and

1747
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: it hits the feathers, it will like bring the feathers

1748
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: along with it in most cases. And what I found

1749
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 1: is if you put it in overnight in the fridge

1750
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,600
Speaker 1: like that saltwater will actually pull the shot in the

1751
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: feathers out of there. So understand how that happens, I

1752
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: don't know either, but like it brings it to the

1753
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,800
Speaker 1: surface in most cases. And so I just like pluck

1754
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: it right off the edge of the bird toss it away.

1755
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,200
Speaker 1: It's not foolproof. It doesn't pull all of them, but

1756
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,480
Speaker 1: it brings a lot of them up there. Like Otherwise,

1757
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: like you just gotta like like breast the bird out,

1758
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: massage it down, like find the babies in there, maybe

1759
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 1: slice it up, and then take the carcass and use

1760
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,519
Speaker 1: it for stock. Some birds, you can hold a breast

1761
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: chunk up to a bright light and you can see

1762
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 1: the shot if you breast it out for sure. Working

1763
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: Man's X ray, get yourself an m R. Machine. Yeah,

1764
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: run through the m r Yeah, no, no, serious bird

1765
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: hunter doesn't have it's m r um. You know, we're

1766
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: talking about getting the feathers out by A great trick

1767
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: is to stick take a toothpick mm hmm. And sometimes

1768
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: you can pull shot too. If it dragged a lot

1769
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: of feathers or hair into a cotton tail, you put

1770
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: a toothpick in there and twirlet and you'll pull the hair, squirrels,

1771
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: anything like that. You'll pull the hair out and you

1772
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,320
Speaker 1: can oft times you pull it out and you'll have

1773
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of shots like locked up in there. Yeah,

1774
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:50,839
Speaker 1: because you picture like a comet. Haley's comment up. Twayne

1775
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 1: was born the year the Haley. You know, Hayley's comment

1776
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: comes every seventy five years. Dayne was born the year

1777
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 1: it came, and and predicted that he would come in

1778
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 1: with the common and go out with the common and

1779
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: went out with Hayley's comment. Yeah. Anyways, picture of comment

1780
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 1: when you see a picture of a comet and it

1781
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: shows like the rock and it's got the flames that

1782
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of wrap around the front and trail out in

1783
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 1: the back like a shot goes in there like that

1784
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: dragon hair like flames and you put it in and

1785
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: pull it out. That's the noise it makes. But the

1786
01:38:26,479 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Brian one, man, I don't it works for me. I

1787
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if it's like something with

1788
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 1: the osmoss or like I don't know, like when like

1789
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: Brian or salt like it does draw things out of

1790
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 1: the meat, but I don't understand. I don't understand how

1791
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 1: that would actually expunge the shot, like I was just no,

1792
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that it's bringing in the salt water, right,

1793
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: like it has to equal when it's in that Brian

1794
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: like that. That's what's going on, right, is that that

1795
01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:56,800
Speaker 1: Brian is penetrating the meats. It has to become equal

1796
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: between the two states of liquid and the meat. And

1797
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: then just like what it's in there, right, So maybe

1798
01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: it's pressure. Maybe if it's just pulling in, then it

1799
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 1: might be I mean it's going in through those pores

1800
01:39:07,720 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 1: or whatever there. It just might be sort of plumping

1801
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 1: up and then pushing out. That's what I was. That's

1802
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: that's another way to get shot out. It's just pimple popping.

1803
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 1: So that's how you guys might top was for we

1804
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 1: one time got a moose. We were twenty miles were

1805
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: we flew in on the raft trips. We flew in

1806
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: like flew off the highway up twenty miles up the

1807
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 1: river in order to then float back to the highway.

1808
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: This is up in Alaska and right where we landed

1809
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the furthest point we got from any I mean, you're

1810
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: nowhere near any kind of permanent structures. We killed the

1811
01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: moose that someone had shot in the butt with a

1812
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: shotgun long ago. It's all healed up in the air.

1813
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 1: But all these shotgun pelts I pictured him, you know,

1814
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: they moved quite a distance throughout the life. I pictured

1815
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: him getting into someone's garden or something. Was very small.

1816
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: It looked like seven and a half or eight shots

1817
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 1: all over under his skin and oh that's gross, was

1818
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:06,439
Speaker 1: it all? It was like, yeah, it was totally healed up.

1819
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,560
Speaker 1: That's totally healed up. And it was just like you

1820
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 1: could just see it, you know, that meniscus, like not

1821
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 1: a meniscus, but like that what you call it man

1822
01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: like the like right under the hide it's kind of

1823
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: sticky whatever that like the when you pull the hide away,

1824
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: it's sticky, right, yeah, like the fascia. It was just

1825
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: like the babies were just in there and they were

1826
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of like healed up in there a little bit,

1827
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: and the hide didn't have any kind of there's like

1828
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: a discoloration on the hide, but the holes and the

1829
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: hide were gone. Wonder giving it like the get out

1830
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,320
Speaker 1: of here, get out of the old Ryan Callahan, smell

1831
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:42,759
Speaker 1: me now, like smell me now, Mr. Now. It seems

1832
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 1: like a real Alaskan move to shoot a moose in

1833
01:40:45,320 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 1: the ass with bird shot to get it out of

1834
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: your garden. Should you hit another one, Yoannie? Yeah, I

1835
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 1: think we got one more time for one more? Um,

1836
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: I just found one I kind of liked we could

1837
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: answer he had to choose one antler game recipe to

1838
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 1: help introduce kids to wild game. What would it be?

1839
01:41:07,880 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 1: And why? Oh? I know exactly. It's tricky. I was

1840
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,720
Speaker 1: just thinking about it's tricky because my first thought was

1841
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: full to just be freaking taco night man, because me

1842
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 1: can serve regular old American tacos with ground up cat

1843
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: meat in it and it's like sweet tacos. But that's

1844
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:30,800
Speaker 1: not necessarily helping introduce your kids to wild game. Maybe

1845
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,640
Speaker 1: the idea of it because you can feed them a

1846
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: beef taco and say, yeah, man, you're eating elk, and

1847
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,679
Speaker 1: the kids are like, great, I'm eating elk. So they're

1848
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: okay with the idea. But I think it's guy if

1849
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 1: you're actually yeah, exactly. So if you're actually sort of

1850
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: like trying to be like, hey, this is what wild

1851
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 1: game tastes like, I think you're gonna have to be

1852
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:51,320
Speaker 1: a little more nuanced and sort of pick something that

1853
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 1: is wild gaming tastes like wild game. You could pick

1854
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: it out as wild game, yet the kids are gonna

1855
01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: like it. The other evening, I served just half and

1856
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 1: to have a very small, like bottom round roast off

1857
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 1: of an antelope. It wasn't gonna be enough meat. So

1858
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: we also had two white tailed dope tender loins, and

1859
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 1: I can tell you that those it was all sliced

1860
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 1: up just it had been done like we do the

1861
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: perfect roast, which you can find in the Metator Wild

1862
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,519
Speaker 1: Game Cookbook and the recipe there how to make the

1863
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: perfect roast. I cooked all three of those pieces the

1864
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:26,840
Speaker 1: same way, steer them up alvoil, salt and pepper, finished

1865
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 1: them in the oven, sliced them. I yanked him at

1866
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: like ish, that's no no man. Once I let them rest,

1867
01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 1: they rise eight degrees and then their money. Anyways, that

1868
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,360
Speaker 1: I put a little bit of each on everybody's plates,

1869
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: and it didn't take them along to be like to

1870
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,519
Speaker 1: know that the one is a little bit smaller and rounder.

1871
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: That was the good eating one, right, So oh yeah,

1872
01:42:56,040 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 1: they're like all over that tenderloin the bottom round out off.

1873
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 1: The antelope was awesome too, but it just didn't have

1874
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: that melt in your mouth noss of that tender loins.

1875
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: So I don't know I'd go with that man, because

1876
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: you definitely know you you can taste that you're eating

1877
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 1: wild game. It's got salt and pepper on it, that's it.

1878
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: But it's good. It's really good to go to the

1879
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: prime cut, I guess is my simple prime cut. I

1880
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:24,560
Speaker 1: put up a thing on Instagram about this, but not

1881
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: long ago, I had some Mountain lion tender loins and

1882
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 1: I did like how we I did like like doing

1883
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:33,759
Speaker 1: the perfect roast as describing the Mediator Fishing Game cookbook,

1884
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: which is available now. Um seared them, seasoned them, salt

1885
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: and pepper, seared him, fired into my oven. But I

1886
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 1: was kind of running a little bit behind schedule, and

1887
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: like with little kids, and you gotta get the show

1888
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: on the road, right because people got up, Yeah, they

1889
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: want to time to mess around. You gotta get them

1890
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 1: to bed. So I pulled him out. I was kind

1891
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,680
Speaker 1: of trying to rush things, pull him out, and you

1892
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:54,800
Speaker 1: can't ey mountain land rare. You gotta cook it, you

1893
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: gotta you know, you gotta cook it to one sixty

1894
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 1: pull it out. And I was like, damn it. It

1895
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: wasn't hold it too quick still a little you know,

1896
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 1: you don't want to explain that to your wife? Did everybody?

1897
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,680
Speaker 1: The kids go all got trick nosis? So uh, I

1898
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: had a bottle. I was like, how am I gonna

1899
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 1: get this done? Like instantaneously? Because once I made I

1900
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: I was trying to roll and I'm like, man, you

1901
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: shouldn't roll it, you know. And we had mild We

1902
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 1: had mild barbecue sauce um in the fridge, a bottle

1903
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: of mild barbecue sauce in the fridge, and I just

1904
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: put like a few gloves of that where I had

1905
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: a quarter inch of barbecue sauce in the bottom of

1906
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 1: the same skillet that I had seared it in, and

1907
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: I put those slices and just simmered them in barbecue sauce.

1908
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 1: Because I'm just trying to get it done and get

1909
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: everybody fed. Uh. Man, they loved it, loved it. But

1910
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: my kids have eating so much stuff. They don't even

1911
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't register. You could tell them that they don't

1912
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: have any of that. They don't have the apprehension because

1913
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 1: they never had the luxury of addition, say the luxury

1914
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: they've they've always had the lugs you of just like

1915
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,720
Speaker 1: eating everything, So they don't. They don't. They're not suspicious

1916
01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: of anything. They wouldn't know, Like you could tell him

1917
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: the craziest thing in the world and they wouldn't know

1918
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:08,920
Speaker 1: to think it was weird. So it's not a So

1919
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: it's not like your overcoming prejudice. But they that was

1920
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: a dish they loved and it makes me think of

1921
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 1: remember that BlackBerry dish I cooked a little bit which

1922
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: had that sauce that was made out of base like

1923
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 1: melted brown sugar and you serve it over rice. Yeah,

1924
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: I believe we call it meat meat candy. Dude. Kids

1925
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 1: love that dish. Man, we put that on the website

1926
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: at some point in time. I don't think it's still there.

1927
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: We need to revamp that recipe. Yeah, it's basically like

1928
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 1: making Mongolian beef. Um. You know that's my brother was

1929
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,679
Speaker 1: trying to make. My brother, who came up with the recipe,

1930
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 1: was like messing around, trying to make like some dish

1931
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 1: from p F Changs or something. His kids, His kids

1932
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 1: got hot on the McDonald's and uh, he started cooking

1933
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 1: hall of it, just like how they make chicken McNuggets,

1934
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:59,559
Speaker 1: and they and they thought they were eating chicken McNuggets. Wow, dude,

1935
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: speaking some good fried fish um I had somehow ended

1936
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 1: up with. I don't know if it was from a

1937
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 1: shoe that we did it, if you gave it to me,

1938
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 1: but the Tony Seas standard fish bredding. I ran out

1939
01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: of just my whatever, you know, seasoned flower that I

1940
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:16,720
Speaker 1: normally have, and I didn't have any corner. I saw

1941
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,479
Speaker 1: the box sitting there and so I went with that

1942
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:22,679
Speaker 1: and man, just seasoned just enough but not too much.

1943
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:25,599
Speaker 1: I was really impressed. That's why it pisces me off.

1944
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: And you talk up Old Bay, dude. I'm a big

1945
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 1: fan of Old Day myself. You're from the West. They're

1946
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 1: too two separate seasonings. I'm not saying I view it

1947
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,800
Speaker 1: like you're an old I view it like when it

1948
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 1: comes to like seasonings that you can buy any grocery

1949
01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 1: store in America. There's two kinds of people. There's kinds

1950
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 1: of people who think you can lump everyone into two categories. Yeah,

1951
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 1: there's two kinds of people. Man, what if you're feeling

1952
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: like you want to be Authentico Spanish or Mexican. What

1953
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,160
Speaker 1: if you want that flavor you can't. You're not getting

1954
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: that if I'm doing that. And you know what, No,

1955
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 1: it's not the only thing I eat. I'm just saying,

1956
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: like we it was framed up as either or. I

1957
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 1: think it was a listener question that might have been.

1958
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: But I'm not falling into that trap. Okay, well, when

1959
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: we got that, here's the thing we've gotten that argument

1960
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: about Tony C's. Someone from the Tony C's family say,

1961
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: I everybody Wright said you say this, and I talked

1962
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: aboutfore for something for a reason I don't understand. When

1963
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: I was in college, you're called uncle times. I have

1964
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: no idea why they sent me a care package and

1965
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: in it, uh and it was like a marinade, and

1966
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 1: I cook some golden eyed ducks out of that marinade.

1967
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: M all right, he said they were so. But yeah,

1968
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,720
Speaker 1: it's a good it's a good bredding. Yeah, it's a

1969
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 1: lot more fun than you know. You really ought to

1970
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: learn how to make your own, and I know what

1971
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: you do, but it's it's like, for there's a lot

1972
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 1: of good breadings out there. Yeah, I don't know. I

1973
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: got a lot of times. A lot of times those

1974
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: store bought ones have that real like I'm gonna call

1975
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 1: it MSG flavor, but I don't know if that's what

1976
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Maybe they're just over salty, is what I'm

1977
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:12,280
Speaker 1: trying to get at. But I just feel like you're

1978
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: like I can taste something that I don't like, it's

1979
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,160
Speaker 1: just too much. Usually where I felt like this one,

1980
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I was pleasantly surprised that they

1981
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: did had an overseasoned and over salt. You know what

1982
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: my old man bought by the case. I didn't have

1983
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,759
Speaker 1: fried fish that wasn't made in this season. He bought

1984
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: frying magic. M I remember that stuff, blue box. He

1985
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: bought frying magic by the case. And he had a

1986
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 1: cupboard in the garage where he kept peanut oil and

1987
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:44,240
Speaker 1: frying magic and paper towels. It was like his stash.

1988
01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 1: When your mom did those you're describing how she used

1989
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 1: to do chicken thighs and like she do them in

1990
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: the pan and then finish them in the oven very good.

1991
01:48:54,920 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 1: And you do in squirrels good that way. Yeah, And

1992
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:01,519
Speaker 1: I was thinking that my that magic great. Okay, it

1993
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,680
Speaker 1: was okay, because I want to say, wasn't there a

1994
01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,759
Speaker 1: product called like shaking bake people did the same exact

1995
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 1: recipe with. Yeah, she would work it up, and I

1996
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:10,560
Speaker 1: should call her to double check. But I feel like

1997
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 1: she would work it up with frying magic and she

1998
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 1: do squirrel same way, same breading started the pan. Then

1999
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: she'd take a big sheet pan and line up with

2000
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 1: foil and put all these squirrel eggs on there and

2001
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 1: and throw it in the oven. And you can cover

2002
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,559
Speaker 1: it too. That's Kevin Murphy. He covers it and then

2003
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: cooks it on three help tenderize it, little moist heat.

2004
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 1: M hm hm. You guys got anything to add to

2005
01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: the introductory while a game? I'm on dearline of thought,

2006
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: primal cuts nice and tender, just like keep them as

2007
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: plain as possible, but season them up just a touch. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

2008
01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:52,160
Speaker 1: because like don't let him get the ship and catch

2009
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: up man, oh my old man had to We were

2010
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: allowed to dip dear heart and catch up. We couldn't

2011
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,519
Speaker 1: dip normal dear meat and catch up. Yeah, we definitely

2012
01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 1: have like a this is like okay catch up and

2013
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 1: mayo meal. For some reason, my kids freaking they're they're

2014
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 1: they're just as happy dipping in mayo as they aren't

2015
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: catch up. But we definitely like run rulves like no,

2016
01:50:12,840 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 1: this one, No, he's just he's just gonna eat them.

2017
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I just put cash up

2018
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:22,160
Speaker 1: on everything. It doesn't matter. You've grown out that, but

2019
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: you've grown out of it. Oh Yeah, I still like

2020
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 1: catch up quite a bit, but I definitely don't don't

2021
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 1: put it on my dear sticks. Yeah. I have another

2022
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 1: buddy who um I got it with for quite a

2023
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: few years, and uh, I was just the guy that

2024
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 1: would often cook and camp when there was no cook

2025
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 1: and clients were out or whatever, and we'd just be

2026
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,280
Speaker 1: hanging out and oftentimes I would spend a bit of

2027
01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 1: time cooking up something and then he'd sit down and

2028
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 1: bust up the giant catchup bottle and just over the

2029
01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:51,360
Speaker 1: whole plate. Man, it kind of would hurt my heart

2030
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. You know. I'm like, I guess if

2031
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,640
Speaker 1: That's how it is. That's how it is. You need

2032
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: to take your beta blocker. The last thing, real quick,

2033
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:05,160
Speaker 1: last thing, real quick. The Meteor Live Tour, Man Live Tour.

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01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Go to the Meat Eater dot com. You'll find tickets.

2035
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,000
Speaker 1: You'll find all the links to get all your tickets.

2036
01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 1: We've got shows coming up, various things coming up. You

2037
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:16,040
Speaker 1: have to go look. And I gotta bor you with

2038
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,559
Speaker 1: all the details right now. But stuff coming up, most

2039
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,839
Speaker 1: of it's already been announced. Tickets are available uh Reno,

2040
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Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Sacramento, Cleveland, Kalamazoo, Schaumberg, which Janna has

2041
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 1: pointed out, it's basically Chicago, Houston, Dallas, Portland, Seattle, Lander, Wyoming, Austin, Texas, Boise, Idaho,

2042
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Speaker 1: Meteor Live, Meat Eater Live Tour. Get your tickets. That's

2043
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 1: my concluder. That was a good concluder. I don't have

2044
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: one today. You boys got a concluder and you're hoping

2045
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 1: to wedge in there. Any little snubs you think bad

2046
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:59,720
Speaker 1: you wanted to say about Yanni. I'm interested in what's

2047
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,920
Speaker 1: gonna happened a night over the house? Oh, throwing lead

2048
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 1: and guts, ye dragging the eulog next time